10.24.2023 Fall River City Council

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City car have Finance please come to order will call Ro councilors kadim here Dion here Kilby here La Liberty here peler Pereira here raposo here Washington here president KRA here pursu to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public hearing and may transmit this meeting for media attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether

perceived or received by those present and not being acknowledged and permissible we have a number of people signed up ass time REM everyone have three minutes uh first is Russell carer subject matter Bank Street Armory thank you Mr President you're very welcome mam vice president distinguished members of the council you can sit to the seat please speak up to the microphone please thank you your 3

minutes won't stop till you start you have to see thank you we're in the midst of one of the largest construction project since 195 in the brager bridge and we're prepared to sell off a jewel a rough one at present absolutely but no less a jewel I think we should keep the Armory as a military edifice and try in some way shape or form to tie it in with Battleship Cove the Marine Museum and

all of our other venues we could run a trolley like we did back in the to day make ourselves a loop turn this into what Fall River has deserved for so long not another oh why did we let the city hall go oh why did we do this why didn't we do that here's the time to do this Now's the Time please I mean uh make Comber properties yes they've done fabulous the buildings look wonderful

but they're no longer ours they belong to him we giving away all our taxes we're not sharing it with the people the people are struggling why are we constantly putting the burden on the people make this where we can say we can have more like the overnights with the the Boy Scouts the Cub Scouts all these paramilitary I don't care historical historians can say stay at the building

look at those rooms he's going to sell those rooms all those beautiful fixtures it's built to withstand in Battlement it's going to take a test of time again but a little bit of work a little bit of buffing and polishing yeah money of course money but but this is something we should not let go by the wayside once again we'll try isah you know we'll try well let's try again but try harder thank you very much

I appreciate your time and your thoughts thank you next we nelon subject matter reest my time starts I do have a request uh because um I know that uh he says I can call him Joe but I'm going to respectfully call him by his title and and just request um council president cero can you uh uh in if you don't mind inform the public watching tonight and everyone in attendance the email you

received and the meeting you intended uh last week uh when you spoke on it uh during your your interview during uh on the Jamie show WS point it's priview to the bank arm but it's not a back and for no I I I know you're getting it um I will tell the clerk to I will take care of that yeah problem it's because people have spoke on it and um that kind of the C

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that day yeah all councils received an invitation to go to the store committee that was taking place last maybe two weeks ago and the meeting was so the city could get certified as a community to apply for Federal and historic grants so all counil received the same invitation that I received it just happened to be the DAT I did my radio interview and I mentioned it um so you all had that same

invitation that I received and the corresponding email that I received wasn't any secrecy um unfortunately that meeting was on the same day as the candidate Forum correct so those of us who had the first Forum weren't able to attend that meeting correct yep but you did receive the information and you have the email that was attached to it just want to make sure everyone receiv it because I want

them through the clerk make sure that everyone received the same email I received and she notified me that everyone did so that's what you're talking about yes so basically um your three minutes going to begin now though yes sir thank you um so basically for the first time followers about to be certified and be eligible to be federally recognized to receive federal funds for historic preservation and the

big contentious surrounding this argument is if the city decides to keep it how are we going to preserve it going forward so given historic preservation and the federal government knows that type of work involves money so going forward not only with the bank Street Army but with all of our buildings uh we're not going to have access to jump change like this is a real true beginning that I believe this is what

happens when you don't rush a vote new details come down I didn't know about it he didn't know about it and um it's very privy to this conversation so I think in my opinion out of respect for the public at large who want this building and giving this new information uh I think for this uh item coming up before you it should be tabled so that the public can know the types of

monies the amounts that we're going to be receiving so that all the information is out there so that everyone can make a decision based on all the information because I believe the people who want to speak on it are afraid to speak on it but but I just think it just to respect the process and like how the council president said before you know this whole thing was rushed didn't sound

right I mean this buildings being sold below the assessed value you know the list I could go on and on but given this new type of information I think out of respect for for everything I think it should be tabled so that we can know the types of monies that we're going to be getting year after year for historic preservation and to finally change the status quo that we don't take care of

our buildings because now we're about to have Federal monies for the first time and um I think it's just really important that we we table it so that we all can know cuz I'm kind of curious and a lot of people are curious too so uh thank you for your time and congratulations on your you know big day and um thank you you know that so thank you thank you next we have Kelly Buchanan subject

matter illegal comp encampments Bank Street Armory three minutes good evening I am here tonight as a followup um on the progress concerning my grievance regarding the illegal encampments within our city specifically the encampments located Bel just below Kennedy Park please advise on the progress that has been made since my last appearance these illegal encampments it's growing again it's

there's so many more and not from around here um again I thank you for your time and consideration and attention to this matter I know Mr Deion you said you guys had something in the work so um I just want to make sure you guys are continuing to not set it aside and I have a few comments about the bank Street Armory um I didn't know much about it I think it's a beautiful

building that we should keep after hearing Miss Pera and um Michelle speak last week on the legalities of how you guys already took this for vote right so it went for vote two weeks prior it was a no the building was going to stay with the city there's a process the chart is Right 10 days the mayor has to put something forward if I'm correct on that it didn't happen it came before I don't

maybe it was an honest mistake on somebody's part I mean I don't expect everybody to know everything but now is your chance to make you wrong or right there's a process there's a reason why we have Charters there's a reason why we have laws there's a reason why we have ordinances we to follow we don't pick and choose tonight's vote is going to surely show where your alliance is whether it's with the people of Fall

River doing what's right opposed to what is wrong being fair right and just or it's going to show who is who's basically owned who is bought and paid for that's what it's going to show tonight unfortunately because regardless it went to vote there were seven people am I correct four said no selling three was for it that's a binding vote you have to stay with what the vote is we can't just

pick and choose what well I don't like this or I don't know if it's coming down from somebody like I said I don't know if it was just a mistake it happens none of us are perfect but tonight is your chance to make it right if whatever the process is that Mr moman's got to go through to do this whole process again yeah it stinks on his part but that's there's a reason why we have audiances

there's a reason why we have Charters there's a reason why we have laws we don't get to pick and choose so tonight it's going to show remember there's an election coming up right people going to see this people going to see who is bought and paid for is a re there's going to be a reason why this is getting rushed through if it's a mistake tonight we'll show that everybody say let's I

guess table it right if it's not tabled and the vote goes through and it passes there's got to be consequences legally I mean it's not 10 seconds I so I just hope you guys do what's right you guys work for the people not for the mayor or anybody else you work for us do what's right lead by example you guys are supposed to be following laws and rules and thank you very much

you want us to do it you all have to do it too so I thank you for your time thank you just want to make a correction it was not four noes and three yeses there were four yeses and three NOS but you needed six votes so okay so yeah it's still have a process to follow no no I agree with what you're saying I'm just saying I just want to make the

correction on what the vote was counc C1 coun yeah I take exceptions to the statements that were made um so to say that councelor is bought and paid for because they they voted a certain way that's absolutely ludicrous I've said this before everybody is passionate about saving the bank Street Army we're all on the same page we want to see the bank Street Army saved how we get there

is where we disagree right so to for folks to come up here and say that were bought and paid you I was at I was at a you know a candidates night trash in trash out to me that's disgusting and you know quite frankly I've said this I've said it on the floor you don't like my stance don't vote for me I I get the there's an election you don't agree with

what I stand for you three minutes or what you don't agree what I stand for don't vote for me that's that's the bottom line every vote that I take as one city counselor I look at every single issue take all the information I understand the charters I understand the rules I understand the ordinance I understand all kinds of bylaws I understand everything I make my decisions on educated votes you disagree

with me that's fine but please do not come up here because a councelor voted a certain way to say that we have bought and paid for because I think the average or a good majority of the folks in city of Fall River understand full full out that nobody can buy me and I'm not bought or paid for so with that I yield yeah no I agree councel I I mean people

come down and I can't control what they say neither Canadian my colleagues the only thing we can do is what council did if we feel that there's something being said that's not right we get our time too to just express our feelings so I I respect the individual that spoke I don't agree with her assessment of being bought and paid for even if you don't agree with my stance on it but it's just

unfortunate that some people have to defend that so I know all of you I don't think any of you are bought and paid for um not even least on occasion so we'll go to the next caller next we have Alexander Sila subject matter Bank Street

Armory hello Alexander Silva 148 Purchase Street members of the city council uh the people of Fall River look to those who are elected and work on their behalf to make Fall River the best place it can be sometimes this takes recognizing far's value and potential beyond the return turn on a dollar sometimes it takes having the foresight to see what would truly be worthwhile for the future of the city it's always

easy to say something's too difficult to do and it's even easier to say it's not your fault uh the reason I've heard repeated most for supporting the proposal to convert the bank Street Armory into housing is that no one has seen any other plan for an alternative the real tragedy is that these very City officials are the people Far Over residents look toward to come up with plans for the future uh yet some are

willing to settle for an imperfect bidding and sale process simply because it's the first and only thing to come along the people of Fall River don't deserve to be told again and again that something is the only option when the reality is that it's the only option presented it is is it not the duty of City officials to come up with more than one plan for the future Fall River uh is

it not the responsibility of City officials to improve the process to make sure residents best interest are served if you truly can't think of any plan to at least ensure due diligence has been given to the Armory and all future reuse options have been explored I will help one plan could see the city requesting emergency Community preservation act funds to stabilize the roof of the Armory for a fraction of the

total repair costs then the city committee on real estate could meet for the first time this year uh to do its Duty and discuss what the best use of the Armory would be for the people of Fall River the committee on real estate should should solicit Community input and the city could organize a survey or shet to explore what residents want the Armory to be after all this information

is collected the city could then put out a new request for proposals for a stabilized Armory no longer racing against time specifically geared toward what forer wants and provide incentives to make it happen all of this doesn't have to be a fantasy in truth it should be common practice as done in municipalities around the rest of the state and the country I look forward to the day where we'll try that here in

Fall River thank you thank you Mr President if I just could I guess I'm gonna I'm going to be on that uh soap boox where I just offend everybody um so we have multiple residents that come down and again this is this is one of my frustrations folks truly do not understand what our role is is in local government we are a legislative body everybody is coming down asking for us

to put forth plans again went to a candidat night everybody asked me what are my plans for policing what's my plans for economic development what's my plans for housing my response to that is nothing I am a legislative body I vote on Appropriations that's the Executive Branch the executive branch is supposed to submit plans to the legislative body and as you had mentioned we approve or

dispose of those things that come down before us we can have these conversations and we typically have these conversations uh with the with the administration but we cannot force them to listen to our plans we can come up with all the plans have all the answers and if the administration is not willing to execute them and support that and actually submit these uh plans down to the city council for either

appropriation or approval on certain things that require legislative body we have no Authority we have individuals that are coming talking about encampments we've got no authority to do anything about the encampments we've had these conversations unless the administration comes down with the plan to fix it and provide an requests for additional funding on something we have no authority to do any of it in terms of

the sale of real estate that's all we have we have our vote is to whether or not we want to dispose and sell of the real estate we don't create the bids we don't have discussions on the bids yes the administration may come down and see what we want to see in an RFP but they do not have to take any of our input in terms of what an RFP is submitted that

is on the executive branch we are simply taking a vote as to whether or not we want to dispose of this property that is it you know to talk about what we want to do with plans yes I could give you a million different uh options and plans that I have for the city of Fall River but it's meaningless in my position as a city counselor because we are a legislative body there

is no jurisdiction there is no role that we have as individual City counselors to submit that that Focus needs to be put on who you are going to vote for for mayor and whether that individual has the long-term vision and the strategic planning that the city needs not the city council without that a yield thank you Council counc C3 counc kby yeah to to Echo those Echo those comments I've

had multiple multiple discussions with the administration with regard to um their commitment or their um and I'm not blaming on well as Council Kim stated it's not up to us we we vote on what what's before us and and the feasibility of the Armory um becoming a y police station is real so I multiple occasions I spoke with the administration with regard and I said it here on the floor in front of our city

administrator if there's a commitment to um you know to fulfill the um you know alternative plans and the answer is no as early as today I spoke with Council Camaro wasn't a private conversation and uh I spoke with the the the mayor personally again and the answer was no so I am not I am not going to risk once again that building decaying to a point where becomes unsalvageable and um so not to that

point as councilor gim um stated there um you know we we have decisions to make we dispose of uh decisions that come before us and uh I wish I had a magic wand to make that building what it was before um it's a very difficult vote for me I many people call me who I are near and dear to my heart and um but you going to face reality that there's no commitment if

there's no commitment then I'm going to vote for what I think is relatively certain thing a different use yes but a relatively certain thing that is going to preserve the building so difficult vote but um that's how I stand on it so thank you Mr President thank you counc our conversation that you and I had was about you informing me that about your conversation with the administration

wasn't about me insinuating anything you just telling me the conversation that you had uh I tend to disagree as I told you earlier that this Bank sh Army is the same scenario as the police station you have a lot more use out of the bank stre arm that you ever could get out of the bank out of the police station and there was never a commitment to invest money into the police station as there

could be and a means to invest money into this just as some people said to share it up and take care of it for now we are using as storage correct right now we are we are using the building it's not dilapitated it is uh structurally sound so it's a bit of a difference council president we we all have conversations and um I have a very good relationship with you so just what

I what I mention is my fear that the building is is and I visited last week and I saw the condition that it's in y and it's sad to see how you thank you Council next we have Mike Haron subject matter at Bank Street

Armory thank you uh first of all I respect all the commitment and service you guys have done for the city of fora grow up in a house when my father was a State Rep I understand how hard you work and and how much time it takes with with that being said okay the last time I was here I talked about the cultural and historical significance and that's right disagree with you very strongly

councelor Kilby that the police old police uh building doesn't have any historical or cultural significance it didn't serve hundreds of thousands of teens it didn't should a veter I think that point has been made but today I'm in front of you to talk about what can be in real time and with Community preservation funds which is the exact term to preserve these buildings I handed you what's going on at the Andre

McCoy Center in new bford the building is three years older than the Army the old new bford vul high school they got Sports life skills computer labs health and wellness Event Center job training the Plymouth Memorial Hall has become an economic engine as an event center to Plymouth who was in boom time town right now concerts comedians MMA boxing conventions art festivals and then we go

to the district Center for the Arts a building that is over 200 years old that Alex stylos has repurposed okay with the help of preservation act money both federally and at the state and city level to preserve that building that over 200 years old all of you have been provided with that information today okay make no mistake about it there is money available I talked to John brand

from theity pration society and they're they're wanting and willing to do it the director from the sixth floor doesn't share that narrative for whatever reason okay but I ask you one question why the rush why when he take why why are we going to take this building that has served us for so long and done so much good and provided so many services from veterans to sports to job training to

life skills to all of it why is it why do we have a big rush to make this decision take the trip to the Andre McCoy Center take the trip to Plymouth Memorial Hall take the trip to the district of C arts and see how significant and what the impact is on that Gooding that a preserved historic building can have and I ask one more question right if this is about money in

dollars and cents and and it is for $200,000 we're going to let this go where it could be strapped in its worst form for stone historic steering for a million dollars this deal is bad all the way around it's bad from a business angle it is bad for the veterans and it is is bad for children and the revolation of downtown I respect your service I hope you respect my commitment to save the bank

sh thank you very much thank you thank you next we have David wood subject matter Maplewood School Maple School Drop Maple Maplewood School drop off thank you good evening council members I'm not much of a speaker so I apologize for that um I have a concern I think deserves your attention and definitely deserve mine I have two children that go to Atlanta's Charter their pick up and drop off point is Maplewood Park um

there's very poor control of the parking and the position of where the buses come in and where they leave from I know I know y'all are probably familiar with the area it's a very narrow road that they have to park on people Park on both sides and the buses come in and they Park almost at the very end and stop in the middle of the road to pick the children up so by the time

all the children get off and in the cars everybody behind the buses are impatient you know they're ready to leave they' run around the buses you know I've seen two kids almost get hit the last week uh also the intersection there where Cabra is it's like a a cluster there's no clear signs of anything what direction who goes where so that at the time everybody's leaving just turns into a

racetrack I it's just an accident waiting to happen I just want to bring it to your attention and hope you can provide some solution or or help with the situation we will bring it to the attention of the traffic department make sure they're looking at you talking about the little Street that's in between Stafford Road and the park yes sir okay we'll bring it to the traffic Department's attention orur forer she

can maybe have a meeting and see what's going on with them and call them and see what can happen there all righty thank you very much thank you very much thank you next we have Wendy malfant subject matter Bank Street Armory and housing

three minutes start till after you start speaking thank you sorry about the long delay oh you're okay

um basically um I'm interested in having the city take care of the Y Bank Street Armory keeping it it's like one of the most unusual buildings it's Unique it's historical and uh it's been used for very many different things and it could be again um this so many other people who have like given you statistics and talked about different options and things and it's basically to me that that building is

just such a unique building in the city that it could something could be done with it and um as they were talking about different places where you can get funding to help rejuvenate it um I'm to the point where I would even volunteer whatever labor that I could give to help renew the bank Street Armory to put it back in shape but I tell you what I can't do the roof so the

roof is out but anything else that's uh in the Bank Street armor I'm I might have some skills that might be able to be used to rejuvenate it but um I am for preserving the bank Street Armory thank you thank you very much uh there was one more thing too that I would like to say I don't know what happened to Whata Heights um I mean they knocked down all of the housing that was affordable

housing and um it had been expressed that they would be building more affordable housing in that area but nothing has been done has anybody um seen any plans for that particular area or is there a reason why they can't build by the Housing Authority Housing Authority has my memory serves correct um I know that was tied up for for a while with regard to um different agencies and nonprofits filing a la against the city

um after um it it U you know it was demolished and that was a popular thing U Back Then father doing that fare and and those comments so um good question um and the assurances were at the time that it would be uh affordable Market affordable housing um family units um not the project you know the the traditional U post World War II project um so good question and um I I promise

you I'm can ask the clerk for my number I'll I'll try to get the necessary answer for you and and if you want to leave your number I will call okay okay that's a good very good question question it has been sit in the over 20 years Council Kamar was been around for a while counc maybe she can elaborate on the statement I just made yeah when when that was torn down it was

a legislative act and the city felt that it met the requirements of what it needed to do was agreed upon about the tenants the and the in the city and the state and then after we relocated all the individuals who live there because we had an enormous amount of available apartments um and the rest of the state was not meeting or coming anywhere near the amount we were at over 30% of

affordable housing where other people from other communities were coming here because there was no affordable housing in their communities so the city entered an agreement that we would relocate all of these people within the city of for River to the same type of housing that they had some of them were given sectionate vouchers and went back to where they were came from um and then after that took place the number of

apartments and hous houses that were going to be built uh wasn't affordable to the any developer so there was no action on that so the city further went and did some more allocation to place more residents and then there was a lawsuit that went back and forth lasted over 10 years and I'm not sure what the end result was but the cities I believe was found not uh in compliance of

anything or did anything wrong that they met their obligation for what happened there so that's what the best I can remember this it's been through a number of Administrations and uh I'm not sure what the process is right now Housing Authority has those answers uh to those questions I don't thank you once you get to the law department and once you get to the courts the city council was not involved

anymore okay thank you the other thing is just one more thing um basically there's a lot of people coming into Fall River um I three minutes are up though I just wanted to let you know uh can I just do the rules motion or wave for an additional three minutes additional minute please okay thank you please proceed um basically there's a lot of people coming into the city buying a property and I've been getting at least

five um things in the mail basically saying we want to buy your property and it's mostly Boston phone numbers Boston area codes now they're coming into the city they're doubling and tripling the rent when they buy the houses so we need more affordable not market rate housing because people in Fall River don't make the amount of money that they need to live in these particular Apartments now

because the r the rents have gone up so high so thank you very much thank you you thank you president thank you item number two the committee and finance reconvene with representation from the Massachusetts Department of Transportation City administrator and city engineer for an update on the progress of rout 79 Deval Street Cora Improvement project it was adopted on 91223 we're going to hold the discussion and

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events if you could just give us a brief what's going on and state everyone's name and address for the record I'd appreciate it stop okay um I'm Valerie k please speak into the microphone sorry that's okay Valerie kilduff I'm with mot um I am the project manager for the project on Route 79 Deval Street my name is Brian Lewis um I am one of the assistant construction Engineers for District 5

out of Taunton Daniel agar director of engineering and planning for the city of Fall River and city engineer I can I can start off I think um we were here a few months ago when we gave you a general update of the construction activities going on through the Route 79 to Ball Street Cora Val was here that evening uh we would just probably just in the first few months of of the construction process and we

explained at that time that all of the big earthwork movings that were going on were very quick and you see such great change and Improvement very quickly over the summer um it's been a little more tedious type of work utilities um rearranging of some of the roadways traffic Bridge deconstruction Bridge reconstruction of of one of the new ramps uh that brings us back down to the Deval Street Cara so the summer has

been spent basically dealing with Comcast gas uh csos water all of the infrastructure that goes underneath um this this roadway Cara we are just now getting into another exciting phase which which Val I'll let her have the glory of telling you some of the exciting things that you'll be seeing happening uh coming up soon so Val if you want to give them some of the highlights of what we're transitioning

to now cuz this is a big transition to what we're heading into next yeah so um I obviously you guys have been down there you've seen what's happening um a lot of the um the big earth work is pretty much pretty much done with that most of that you'll see a lot of loom loom and seating going on right now trying to um get ready for the winter so

we can make sure that we don't have a lot of um just movement of the stuff that's already been done most of that will be at final grade um you'll also be seeing The Bridge start to come up uh we are heading into the winter so you're going to see a slow down um they will most of the utilities um have given us drop dead dates of um December 15ish which is a month later

than than typical usually the shutdowns are in November um we're hoping that the weather holds out and that we can get that month done and they will continue to work um as much as they can as long as the weather is is allows them to do that um the road reconstruction you'll start to see um some of the Hardscape going in once we get all of the um culverts and stuff because once the utilities have finally

moved out of the way we'll be getting in some of the big covert sections of the work that need to be done and then um you'll start seeing the shape of your um hardscapes year sidewalks and that kind of stuff so we're heading in that direction um we do still have a lot of like Dan said we've done all the utility work to move them out of our way so we

will now start to do the heavy construction work in the street and some of that's been happening um but that is the big piece of this project is to separate that that um the water the CSO work and the Culvert work and then once that's done like I said you'll start seeing your Hardscape coming in so we're progressing really well I'm sorry did you say some of you're separating the

CSO SE or be direct discharge into the to River some of that is happening yes in your project you have you have a a project within our project and um CDM Smith was your was it was and is still your designer for that work um there there was a piece of that project built in our project and um there is some separation going on with that piece um mostly around Turner Street I believe um

which kind of lays the groundw for some of the rest of the work that has to be done throughout the city um but we'll be connecting into the work that we're doing which is why when you see some of these pieces of Culvert it's so big is because we did we are doing some of that separation now within your within the the street um trying to get all of it

done so you don't have to rip anything up and do it again we don't want that either um there a lot of you know time and money and effort put here from from both the city and Mast doot um and that's where we're heading with this so do you know how many there are will they be clearly marked as direct discharges into the to River I know the city of Providence does that I we're not adding

any new um discharges so these are modifications to existing discharges from what I understand but a large amount of specifically what happens down through we call it little Deval Street down in front of the gas station area um there are a number of new CSO tunnels coming through that area that connect a bunch of Upstream stuff and then go out towards the um the existing outfall that that's already there so it's it's

incorporating what what we would have been mandated to do uh as you all know better than I for the number of years you've been dealing with it but through Paul ferland's office this was already being designed uh but then when the 79 project came through Paul's office made sure that all of the work that he would need to have completed in this Corridor is being made part of this project okay

thank you for clarifying that yes we we have not um there there are so many regulations which I know you guys are aware of um all of those are being met through DP and um Coast Guard and all all of the different permits are in place um we did not ra like raise those we are still keeping your flood zones all of that stuff is is staying status quo um reason

for another reason why that bridge is is um there we took one Bridge down but we couldn't to pull that second bridge uh mainly for compensatory storage area for flooding if it happens and also um that is we technically think it's designated as your it is an evacuation an evacuation it's a question that I asked why are we putting a bridge back and it was basically an evacuation route

heading north that's why there's only the Northerly Direction on this new bridge so that it did not go through the existing Deval Street area that flood sometime so they had to make sure that it was elevated so that the evacuation route would never be flooded yes Council seat 6 counc vice president pero Val are all the utilities going to be underground because the last time we did a part of the project up there uh

the cost of doing it underground they didn't do it which didn't make sense because that piece kind of goes up if we want to get it flat so are all of these utilities underground for everything that's in our footprint I believe yeah anything within the roadway that roadway Corridor I believe it's probably almost all underground already um so yes it would all be underground except for the

signals the light signals and and everything that goes associated with that I you know i' I've been attending those meetings for a long time on 79 and I still I still cannot believe I am perplexed by the fact that we don't have a road going and coming like on Deval street so that all of the land would be connected so you know Heritage date Park uh the Veterans Memorial Park all that

land would be connected rather than have this street and this street going between the other land that we got yeah I think we discussed this last time I hate no I understand but I I'll respond again I don't mind come on um so there are a number of existing properties that have existing Road Frontage along the way that is to Ball Street so if we would have disconnected them they would

no longer have roadway Frontage creating Zoning non-compliance for them and then you would now be putting vacant Fels between them and the roadway system so we have to maintain all the property owners rights as they currently exist and work within the interior portions of this so the outside easterly edge in the Westerly edge of theall Street as you see it is not changing everything I

would put roads right through so that every property owner got a road going right into this but well the the more roads you put the less land is available for development so this was the most all that would be contiguous I just I I just can't see that sometimes I just shake my head other places I see them able to do things that sometimes we're not able to do because you know I mean you can take

something by IM in a domain if it's going to be for the better good of everybody so understood but if you if you want to speak more about it at length feel free to come by and see me oh I have d they just don't listen sometimes I mean I did get a few driveways extended on there because when they did it at first some of the driveway entrances to businesses was

very narrow so some of those done every week every week we meet with a team of 20 30 yeah different contractors and we have over the last year we've made many changes and implementations to accommodate existing Property Owners with their proposed driveway locations with improvements with improved utilities really think you know Val and Brian uh Mr Le going to like Point Gloria meeting with residents there

letting them know what would be disruptive what wouldn't how I mean dot has certainly um gone above and beyond if they asked to come to speak to any particular group but I saw something in the paper about um one of the properties that there was a problem was with Commonwealth Landing well there is explain that so there there are there's currently a construction activity that's going to begin

that requires a large um pipe system to be put down um Remington correct right Remington so that's going to alter some of the access to get to Commonwealth Landing so we've been working with specifically the owner of Duke's Bakery for instance who has Thanksgiving and Christmas coming up their busiest times of the year so I personally have spoken to them I've put in them in contact with

the construction supervisors on the ground and they're working to make sure that access so access will not be is is never cut off it is modified so in that section of the Wall Street heading south you'll see there are a number of bypass lanes that are currently being constructed so as you travel to W Street South now all traffic for a good majority of it will shift to this new

bypass lane and that's to allow the new Deval Street sidewalk shared use paths to be constructed where dval street is currently so so there will be shifts still heading in that direction but everyone keeps their access through the entire process and I mean that's what I'm talking about when I say that I think do has been Fair here with us to help a business to make sure that people can get access there especially the

business I think I think the design build team has also been very Cooperative when we've asked them for things like when we brought the Duke's Bakery thing up they were very very willing to to look at it and and see how to solve it for that those was few busy days that Duke's are going to have yes they've assured us that they will take care of that that issue if it means

moving to do something else and leaving that roadway whatever they're gonna they told they they assured us that they would take care of that and they've thank you both and to your team y c with that I yield thank you counc C3 counc Kobe yes just one question um what um in terms of the train if you can please refresh my memory when is the ribbon cutting of the uh the first transport

you want to answer you got that yeah I'll answer so Mass do and MBTA two separate entities I would suggest um again I meet with them almost weekly as well um I would suggest maybe that you invite Gan Fox and members from the MBTA to come give them the council an update I I'll give you what what I know of it tentatively from what I understand I think we're looking at mid to late

summer um all of our facil facilities are completely constructed I had a call today with them after the dot call um East Taunton station still needs some dramatic work um that that's been some of the tie up but there there's a number of testing and so they can't test until everything is done so that there has been that delay everybody anticipated that you know for Christmas we may be

even test testing some trains out um and as you've seen over the last was it 3 weeks ago I think when they finally gave out that press release at the 11th Hour that that was not going to happen we still don't have a finite date right now they're again tentatively talking about Midsummer to late summer for actual service to begin so the reason I asked that question is um the corresponding

work with your department in the train of course you know it's above my pay grade in terms of uh well coordination but um is it there's no coordination tamper the no because MBTA is done they're doing nothing very um they have signage is actually shrink wrapped for the winter they are completely done withr what triggered me uh on this question is there um there there are a great deal of people new people in moved

to Fall River have moved to Fall River and existing people who are anxiously waiting yes um not only as a an maybe an experimental thing to go ride the train and you know go up to B then and and point other points um I'm sorry U but I'll just tell you you know I'll share a quick story just two days ago I got a call at my office from an individual I

won't give the address they live on Rock Street um and she's a was a Boston resident and the gentleman her husband just moved from England and they purchased a um a you know a half condo on Rock Street and she asked some questions about the train when you know is it when is it going to open is it we're so anxiously awaiting we both work in Boston um and um it was just she

invited me over her home with her husband and went in went in and answered her questions the best I could so um that's just one example of you know what struck struck me is the the anticipation that people are so looking forward to utilizing uh that resource that we've been waiting for for so long so that's the motivation for the question yeah that is what Dan said um

we just had a we were at a conference a week or two ago and um Jean was there and discussed that and said that you know the anticipation everywhere is is it's a lot like they know that people are waiting for this train um and they're doing their best to get that station that one station that's W they had two and I think they finished they finally finished and got got the

acceptance on the one the other one which is escaping me where it was but the taunt one is the problem they ran into into some issues at that at that station and this very nice couple just purchased their home on Rock Street two years ago um with the anticipation that yeah fla river is up and coming uh that's that that was that common to me so they um there so many good upsides nice family three

children um just it was just a nice thing to see that um what I don't know how what happened in other communities in terms of the experience um with this one experience but I'm sure it's the positives is Def definitely going to outweigh the negatives so thank you Mr thank you coun if I was there I would have told those people that the people in the condo above them from Far

Over been waiting 40 years what's a few more months they just moved here they already went to rush to get the train done been waiting 50 years for this train what's another couple of months and ironically the I'm sorry Mr Kar talks about something personal with you ironically the home that she invited me to you and I were there we were in high school when uh I won't name the family

they they own the property so yeah so it's uh it was nice to go back in and in my mind reminisce um 40 years ago when the McDonald Family actually owned that property okay are you you gave you spilled the beans coun I know you just did you said you want to Spill the Beans you spill the beans okay please continue any more other counc seat six C no just to say oh

was it just to say I did talk toan a few weeks ago maybe two weeks ago and Jean said that exactly what Dan said they're looking at the safety and they have to do these safety checks because we know that there have been train derailments in other areas of the country they want to make sure it's safe that's all with that I you thank you continues of anything else

or is that it is that the just CC C1 CC um so project schedule is still on schedule yes no delays I mean so much I I can't speak for them from what from from what I understand maybe a little bit ahead of schedule um and again depending upon what happens weatherwise uh what kind of a season we have I think we'll whatever we gain for the rest of this construction season is probably

going to be you know a little bit of a bonus yeah we are we're at um 100% design um and like we discussed last time this is a design build project so we did not come out with a full um PSN design we came out with a base technical concept where that we're still working through design um we're at 100% expecting um an issued for construction probably within the next month or two

and then when the job's all done um we will get an as built and the city will have access to that as well so um we're in we're in a we're in a good stage um everything's pretty much ironed out we're we're looking very very good there's a few odds and ends that um you know working through construction and through some field design changes will will get through but other than that

we're in we're in a really good place and then so from a leg legislative uh standpoint all the takings have been done we don't need any additional takings that's correct corre okay with that I Y thank you go other question I have is distribution of the land who do we know who's going to get it when no we do not that that has not been handed down excuse me what are the

choices well I guess they would be the city as many I I guess you can come up with an infinite number well not really no no it could be I mean it it's the it's the state's land to dispose of the state could theoretically sell it directly to a developer could sell it to 10 developers it could convey it to the city of Fall River body itself it could convey it to a Redevelopment Authority

it could convey it to to Joe souer on grenell Street if Jo chose to well I know maybe they're just going to give it to him you know so well uh that that has not been decided as of yet we're we're anticipating it excitedly um but I can offer because this is a new development I think since the last time we came but I did mention it that the Redevelopment Authority was in the process of sending

out an RFP uh for a master plan that did go out we did receive uh four super qualified applicants over the next two weeks we have interviews they've asked me to be involved in the interview process with the four different consulting firms and by the end of November that will be selected um and the project go out for for start in December and that would be a one-year process before they gave us back the

final document through that the state's going to conduct those no no no no we we are the Redevelopment Authority is is funding um the master plan for for the entire corida so we should have that coming in very soon so during that one-year process there will be opportunities for multiple layers of public comment comment from you all um so I I would ask you all to be involved as you most POS

you know as you can uh through that process so that when we get to the end you can see the fruits of your labor uh come to fruition as well but I mean some of the some of the proposals are from some world renowned firms so it it's very exciting that we got that kind of response anybody from Vegas bigger than Vegas but we don't allow casinos right so we'll see but we could change

that is there anything else we need to know or we want to share with us what was that I didn't hear is there anything else that we need to know you want to share with us but Council didn't see to just raised their hand councel no I don't have anything else d I know that um every time the Waterfront urban renewal plan is uh changed or tweaked and the same thing with the down town

There's a new book that's always issued to the uh RDA so that they can see what's coming down the road um this master plan once you choose the company that will take that will do that yes um is it possible that the council can also get uh documentation so that we can actually look and get a better understanding I mean I would think so you're all citizens of the city of Fall

River so I'm assuming that this would all be public information um so I can I can work hopefully as a liais on and and direct the Redevelopment authority to ensure that you're all included either on a formal basis or informal just like anybody else would in the city like I said there will be multiple opportunities for for public comment public input of of what is to go through this through this

coridor thank you with that I thank you councelor there no further questions I want to thank the three of you very much for coming down and sharing that information with us it's exciting project we're all glad to be a part of it and can't wait to see the end result great thank you for having us thank you much thank you item number three I entertain a motion to lift from the table from the

table second yeah councilor do you want to table this instead of just leaving it in finance so we can continue the discussion as things change yes motion to table Yeah motion to table has been made second second all in favor I any opposed item is now tabled thank you thank you Madam clerk thank you Lauren item number three I entertain a motion to lift from the table it was Ted back in September 12th motion to lift

has been made and seconded all in favor I any opposed item is now lifted fiscal year 2 2023 quarter 4 budget report was tabled on 9 take these together Mr President it's up to you yeah whatever the the council is you want to make a motion to take them together please motion has been made to take item three and four which is fiscal year 2024 budget report referred on October 10th motion has remain second all in

favor any opposed motion carries we'll come down please take item three and four together anybody that she'll be here

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you you want us to wait for her or you want us answer questions in her absence or I don't want to hold anyone up I'm glad to answer questions uh as well as I can I know CFO almond will be back momentarily she's had to step out for a second uh but I'm glad to do my best and start

okay I think the only Council has missing is Council Kilby any questions we can take item 23 quarter four budget report if

okay do you want to give us a quick presentation on any Chang or anything we should know about before we begin asking questions sure um I was going to start with talking about the quar four that we um provided revised after we've gone through most of our closing entries the school has gone through theirs so I just wanted to um so overall our revenues exceeded our budget by about 12% what were the driving factors in

that was we had extremely good tax revenue collection which ended up being about 1.1 million higher which we was due to strong efforts um to collect our prior year taxes and tax L Revenue marijuana excise tax exceeded the budget but that was after we revised it when the law changed and we had to reduce it by 1.7 million which was offset by New Growth interest income exceeded our original Expectations by about 3.2

million and this was due to investing in um us treasuries and negotiating with banks to get higher interest rates and we expect very strong turn backs overall our expenditures were under budget by a 3% which was mostly caused by significant vacancies and our departments were very prudent in their purchases and we strategized using arpa funds where we could so we could keep alleviating the pressure on the general

fund and then q1 I mean it's very early to talk about that but we're um very much On Target I feel with our revenues and our expenditures so at this time i' be ready for questions are we on are we on target are we over we we below no we we're for quarter one yep we're on target okay coun seat six C vice president PR you know the only thing

that I want to say about the budget and I've heard some of my colleagues and I agree there's a lot of money in the budget for unfilled positions vacant positions however you cannot have a park a cemetery Department with five workers when we have five cemeteries there's no way you can't have two people in tree Department somebody's out on vacation somebody's sick one person alone isn't

going to do anything to a tree you've got to start filling some of those positions that are vacant DCM needs them water department needs them I mean people you know it's in the budget you have money there to do it people need the services and sometimes people are waiting for services because of lack of Manpower and that should not be I agree that maybe there's more I've been here a

while so I know that that's a place where you could usually hide money so that next year you could throw it into free cash we all know that that's that's how the city works sometimes but we need people yeah Bridget that's what they've done in the past maybe you don't know but I know cuz I've been here but we need to fill these positions you know water department is down Park Department department is down

um and those are important I mean they're not only doing the parks but they're also doing Islands I mean you know in the summertime how many times you're going to go uh through the the cemetery and mow the lawn and weed whack uh you know do we look at getting Sumer help to maybe alleviate where you don't have to pay medical insurance or what but you need to get the bodies there I

went to the lwis latima event that they had at the cemetery that side of the cemetery looked good the other side look terrible um I don't know what they do with Perpetual care money up there um but I just firmly believe that we need more help I I saw in the we have three litter offices how much money have they brought in we need more people you had street sweepers that we bought they weren't

even registered yet today they were lettering them because I called and said come on and those you don't need a CDL license for get those on the street um I mean and they do when I call and say hey I heard this and that can you guys put that out and I know that that they do and Charlie tries to do a good job just like Al does but I hear it from

people that you know they're waiting for stuff and you have the positions please fill them it's not going to affect your budget the money is there can I respond to you sure so I'm in agreement with you good we do want it we are trying to fill them that's not I wasn't saying that we're h no and they actually had I think I don't know if it was the first time we

had a uh at City Hall job fair the job fair I mean nobody's trying to not fill them that's definitely not happening right now I mean I really think something like the plumber an electrician you're not going to get any plumber or electrician to come in and work in this city for $23 an hour when they can make a lot more money so we need to be cognizant of that you know

have anybody hired an electrician lately I have believe me I paid a lot more than 2350 an hour um I haven't had a plumber cuz when I'm stuck I call Ray Mitchell and he usually comes and helps me truth be told but no I mean you know people are paying taxes they want Services let's try to see what more we can do to get people to come in and apply for jobs here and if we have

to look at shifting um salaries and that okay so if you have four openings maybe refill two but with a higher pay so the money is still there you know what I mean maybe something like that um would would work out but you need to need to get people to come to work I know it's hard a lot of people don't want to work but you know if people are paying taxes they want their

services if I may um you're absolutely right I mean there's you know it's it's um and there's no easy solution to it as you know um there's a lot of conversation and different possible proposed uh Solutions um um that I I'm not going to put out because they're speculative but there is one that I can tell you is a is a for sure which is that um this week we are going

to be launching um uh a CDL proog training program in-house so we actually have a certified trainer now City Fall River who can train um applicants to get their CDL uh which would save the applicant uh close to $3,000 uh would allow us to to homow our CDL drivers we're not charging the employee anything uh for the program um the city is fronting the cost it's sort of based upon the idea that we're going

to pay for the academy for police officers um it was a great idea that the mayor and Al ala and Charlie denme came up with that they're putting into um place and so I I can tell you that that is happening and and certainly it's not enough uh but it's a start I mean I think that's good but also the career center if somebody out there is out of work unemployed wants to get a CDL

license you can go to the career center and they'll pay for you to get your CDL license too so I'm glad that we're doing it for our own employees here but you know for people to know you can go to the career center there's other places that will assist in in getting things like that and you know one of the things is if you look at some of the unions we

have like abme what do they have uh the dispatchers clerks and water department are all together they're very different departments and different jobs and water department they need need a lot of certifications and we're still we still have poor Cherry Sullivan coming in working there because we don't have the the Manpower but we've lost some good people because they can go somewhere

else and get a better pay so can you blame them I don't blame anybody who can go someplace else and get1 $15,000 more for their family I don't blame them so we need to look at that and I don't know if they can separate positions there or what have you I don't know what the so with abme because of the problem that you absolutely are right in raising that that there are so

many sub groups within the ABS bargaining unit it's almost impossible to strike a deal that really works for everybody and really acknowledges all the issues um so we introduced something with the last bargaining uh round which was um job reevaluation for the individual subunits if they applied made their case we would evaluate we did a few increases last year I don't think the program was well understood so we're

going to do a lot more education this year uh because you're absolutely right it's like um you know really 10 different subgroups that all have very different jobs very different priorities very different qualifications um so we've tried to address that and we're going to continue looking at different ways to do that that was our first step last uh last year well I was at the water department last week and a new

person that's there is just taking their final test so that's good while I'm talking about that I'm not probably supposed to say it now but I'm going to try to sneak it in the water department building that we built is people are moving in there they're working out of there so why not have a day where the citizens who paid for that building can go and have an open house and tour that

building greata uh write it down maybe we can have that happen um because I think people should see what they paid for just a thought with that I yield thank you councelor said I just one question follow up to a coun PR talking about the city is going to pay for the CDL license what's the commitment from the individual that receives a license how many years did he commit to staying

within the city or is he just going to move on to a higher paying job as others have done so because we're doing it in-house um and we're managing the costs uh as long as we can get one snow season um from that CDL driver without um in the alternative having to hire a private um it would pay for itself uh so we're not attaching the the same multi-year commitment that we did for police so if

he starts gets his license in September and he works till March he can leave I can't speak to exactly the details but all I just because we had the conversation earlier this afternoon um I know that we're not putting a a five or you know more year commitment uh for the CDL uh licensing um I'm not sure whether it's just going to be a one-year commitment but it's going to be shorter

than the police because um the cost is low for the city uh and the benefit the return on the investment is significant I think you're going to lose a lot of individuals that way you're going to keep playing this game over and over but that's up to you I think more than one snow season is what you need to get out of these people and if you want to pay them more to have the

CDL license because they're going for a little bit of money right now anyone CD license can go anywhere and get more than what we're offering to pay something that should be Revisited as well with that CC seat number five Council pelet thank you to lend this point I done a little remodeling my house electrician for two $150 an hour you don't think that guy is only making 23 that's working for him and another point

that I made and I made before you've lost a lot of good people here in the city of for River and just about everybody who left has made more money in these different little towns from 5 to 10,000 to startop and I think the only reason why some of the people stay here uh I think they're crazy they're not looking for something else but it's because they got their vacations they got this they got their

tenure they got everything else and I guess they just don't want to go out look for another job but you know and we know the people that left in the kind of money they're making a lot better and and that's the story in for rer at the water department I talking to the kid today was getting a sticker he says some of the jobs are paying $6 an hour how

can you live on that you can't live on that yeah but I'm getting my CDL and I'm going to get this I'm going to get that well good luck to you but uh H how do you survive I don't know how to survive with that I yield thank you thank you counc counc C7 C poo thank you Mr President I have a question on EMS Enterprise fund from quarter 4 um so

even with the transfer that was made last year of 1.2 million they end up having a surplus of 2.7 so now looking ahead to quarter one of this year do we anticipate further expenses this time around versus last year so or or let me add something else and or additional investment into EMS that will then some of that money will be used for so right now we still have to go through free free cash certification but

we're also as we're going through all the side funds and there was a lot of um you know FEMA expenses and there's been you know things that are being disallowed so we still need to evaluate that and a lot of that was EMS related so I can't give you a straight answer because I we're dealing with the federal government and and Mima MH so and I do know there's also you know looking at investing in

facilities for EMS so which which that will lead to my next question so are there plans in the works for this fiscal year to further invest into EMS like we talked about a building or buildings training programs Etc so there's there's two major things happening with EMS is that they are on the verge of standing up an EMS training school um so their training department is um has been working on that

certification um so we can actually train our own uh paramedics and uh and emergency medical technicians um who then become paramedics ultimately um the second thing thing is that they are continuing to invest in Center fire station really going little by little uh getting that to where they need it to go there's a plan uh at this point so they know uh the first thing that needed to

happen was environmental uh actually getting the ventilation uh and that's uh uh where it needs to be so now it's facilities um the rest of it would just be Em's ordinary scheduling of investment in itself a new vehicle you know every year that sort of thing uh and they're really good uh Deputy fonts and and chief ala uh and actually Captain Sylvia who's the head of the um mobile Integrated Health division they

do a phenomenal job in planning for growth um so there's not any unexpected large Investments aside from the same facility they've been investing in central fire central fire station um and the significantly minor investment comparatively uh into standing up the training school okay and do we have any idea when that training school may be up and running it will be within this fiscal year this fisc year okay thank

you one c c SE one coun thank you uh so you had just mentioned Investments a couple of times so there there's a change in the general law that allows instead of the legal list to be invested for trust funds and stabilization accounts to go use the prudent um investor role are we going to be coming down I well not am I going to come down and ask are you are you folks yeah going

to come down to get that General law accepted so I don't really have any intention right now of changing the way we're treating that with PR I mean I think we have enough other things in the fire that are a little more concerning that we want to be prioritizing but I guess it just it it The Prudent investor yeah it just gives you more more flexibility in terms of what you can

invest the the funds in right versus just the legal list which is very very limited um so just for rate of return for our stabilization accounts and trust funds that's so what we've done is we've um I mean we have looked at it I haven't um I'm not ready to make a commitment to come down what we have done is we have moved the stabilization funds out of money markets and they're invested in uh

shortterm and up to onee treasuries which are actually yielding higher than the stock market right now mhm so okay that's what we've done um and then just fourth quarter um so I guess my only question for the fourth quarter is just um I know we were having conversations about the police department and The Collector roon agreement that was set forth so what was the final number for the cost of that first year for the

um well with vacancies I mean they still are going to have a strong ter sorry I missed that I mean they still had significant vacancies um it did stop I did talk to the chief at a recent meeting and he felt that the contract did stop people from leaving um but they still have I think 24 vacancies no that's why I asked the question because when you it's a little misleading when

you see the transfer it's only $253,000 that was transferred into salaries and that's just taking the salary portion of it um I'm sure there was other uh Financial components that were aside but I'm just trying to get that full one year because I know we were going back and forth in terms of what the the actual cost was so I'm just trying to figure out what the the actual uh cost was for year one of that

Collective margain Agreement I don't think we broke that out I can get there for you though yeah thanks I apologize I will U make sure I get that for you this week all right thank you that I yield thank you councelor counc C2 good evening um good evening are we doing either or or are we sticking with quarter four whatever you choose coun we took them both together so you choose

all righty quarter one um the first page in the actuals um actual expenditures or revenues the um very very first page quarter one actuals soon as you open the book okay yep right there um the overlay account there's no dollar amount but yet we have uh paperwork in our agenda packet because uh you're looking for an appropriation of 150,000 to add to the overlay account uh which will bring it

up to $11 million but at the present time prior to us voting it's $950,000 but it's not shown so it is it's actually shown in the expenditures so it's the presentation so the way it is in munice it's in the expenditures we move it into um the revenue at the at the close of the year because that's how we have to do it for all of our reporting but it's actually it's in your expenditures

on page 40 in munus I don't know the page number I'm going to look for it under City expenses yes I believe it was page 40

mhm could be it is on yes it is on page 40 so you'll see right now there currently 950,000 so it's just the it's the presentation okay so what happens is your overlay gets netted with your revenue of your real estate taxes in the budget that we show you when we pass it but the way it's handled in munice um is they put as an expenditure and then we

close it out at the end of the year to revenues which is why it's absent on that page exactly okay my other question is under Trust an agency you have a transfer into the general fund as revenue of $4.5 million I'm back on that first page oh great thank you sorry what trust fund did that come out so those are the that transfer of the 4.5 million that was the arpa

funds that we budgeted in the general fund so it came out of trust and agency just how the presentation of it it came out of a it was it's a grant that was transferred in to the general fund then you transferred it into the uh okay now where is that represent represented in munus or isn't it it is it's um that's why you're seeing it in the actuals because we've already we've

actually made the transfer You' already all right yeah um let's see page what I would consider page six if you turn the pages um under Community Service uh Health Department expenses um 46% has been used in the first

quarter original appropriation 26,000 revised 7600, 46% um has been expended well I know there was a transfer in um that you all that you voted for for the opioid money that was transfered in there and then that was then um purchase order was put in so I'm I would have to look at the details of that so the the number is 49,900 which is the amount of that second contract for the opioid money so the first

contract was was for the analysis of how to set up the opioid task force and committee uh the next is the actual consultation uh to help that money get distributed and that increase uh the adjustment is exactly the amount um of what that second contract is so that's what that represents okay but the the 40 46% that was already expended is that typically what happens in the first

quarter or was there another reason for it well so what you'll see by sometimes those expenditures is because if it's there's a contract the purchase will get will be put in and it and it ex Inc cbers it to expense it okay so so even though the money is not spent it's spoken for so so we don't run a foul of you know thinking that we have money that we don't have that's you know it's

already committed it's encumbered you already you already just show it as spent or used or expended okay but it hasn't been hasn't been paid out yet um the next page under General government mayor's expenses are 61% not that it's a huge dollar amount but just curious um what drives the so a lot of those mayor expenses um and I would check the details but a lot of those are the MMA the M I think like the

may I forget what it is May orial association fees that we have to pay and you pay most of those fees up front at the beginning of the year okay let's see oh what did I see Auditors City the auditor expenses um on the financial services on the page above I'm sorry I skipped over it um that's at

60% so I think that's um that's the new version of patriot right no that's not in Auditors Patriots not in Auditors oh I was looking at assessors I apologize um or we're still right where we are in assessors so the Auditors expense yes because we have we've had to have additional support helping in the auditor's office because we haven't had a position so that 60% part of that um would be the

um Clifton or Mr a capon Consultants that sort of thing and so it that drives their expenses more Clifton lson then met Mr aapon he's significantly reduced his time um but I think in anticipation of knowing that our assistant auditor would become the auditor I think we ramped up the training just to make sure that we were you know I dotted he's crossed and he's doing a great job so

okay so even though he's reduced his his hours 10 hours a week still represents 2250 a week uh $2,250 if he's getting two 225 an hour um that's correct that's still significant I mean are we close to um not needing absolutely the extra the extra help Etc we are we are close to a time when Mr aapon will no longer uh be a contractor with the city uh he's done an incredible service but we are nearing

the time when he's going to be very happily retired I'm sure he has but it's come at a significant expense to the taxpayer as well um under City expenses page 27 no I'm going to go to page 24 first I'm sorry okay on page 24 um High streets and highways rent and leases uh there's 30,000 appropriated um revised was still 30,000 46.9% has been expended what are we renting or leasing at this

point let me find it page 24 under City expenses uh streets highways expenses one two three four five six seventh line down rents and leases so there are um there is some equipment um there was a small excavator that was being uh leased for some period of time um there is from time to time equipment that's rented or leased to fill in for equipment that's down when we absolutely need it um I can dig in uh

with Mr alera to find out exactly what that represents but that would be my uh uh that would be what I think that probably represents yeah because we did make significant um I mean we made some significant purchases um so that we could avoid this sort of problem so absolutely but not all of it's in so like we just got the street sweepers as as uh Council prayer mentioned those

came in what two weeks ago maybe um graffiti machine uh came in a while back but there's still other things that are that are still out there so um you know I think in the future you're going to see that reduce but right now I think we're still waiting for a few things because again this is a case of we're only in the first quarter and 46.9% has been expended so that's a bit of a

concern and um speaking of the because you brought up the the street sweepers um I've seen them other people have seen them but I did have somebody asked the question um in the past when they were going to Street sweeps particular streets they used to put up signage don't have your car here on a given day at this at this time because the street sweep was going to come by they're not

doing that they're just bringing the sweet Streeter down the middle of the street which really it's not effective isn't helping the situation I'll make a note so if we could go back to using the signage and and making the use of the street sweepers be as effective as possible would be great I will look at that and lastly um on page 27 under City expenses um can you explain on again other

rent not a big dollar amount but 80% under um Solid Waste Disposal again what are we renting what page count to 27 2 page 27 halfway down Solid Waste Disposal expenses one two three fourth line item just a second

732 that is a forklift rental um that we are paying for monthly right now uh because we do not have a uh forklift of our own um there's a so this I have a sheet here that I resulted from a conversation I had with DCM today regarding uh some of the rentals and additional expenses and things that we might have incurred in the first quarter um and so we're looking at uh getting

that from a rental to something we actually own because we should have it we need it um we're moving around um carts and all sorts of other things around the yard we're doing a significant Deep dive into the many many carts that were distributed during the cray Administration and getting barcodes on all of those so they're trackable and they're um accountable uh I think you're going to see an announcement pretty soon

uh around uh a new approach to Solid Waste based upon what we've been doing for the last three to four months including no longer picking up business trash so I'm not going to say we're going to no longer pick up business trash but there is going to be a solution to that that's not going to come at enormous expense to the city which right now it does I think there's 350 or more businesses getting their

trash picked up for free it's an expansion of what the original contract had it's not consistent with the original contract and we are uh working on a solution long time coming yes ma'am again significant amount of taxpayer dollars has gone into something it should not have gone into we've had that conversation so many times that um under the solid waste disposal it shows a 73% um that 73 3% has been expended can you

explain that sure uh the um this is similar to what uh CFO alond mentioned before where something's encumbered um so what we actually did with that is we did an open PO for the first three quarters so approximately $2.5 million um the last quarter is always a more expensive quarter so it goes about 8 to $850,000 per quarter until the last quarter when it could be closer to a million um so not knowing what that cost

would be this you know all sorts of additional costs that that that are part of that uh that last quarter they did a three quarter open po their working off of that um we haven't spent um three4 of our of our trash budget um we right at 24% of the solid waste budget um that just uh shows that that money is encumbered just not yet spent okay thank you for the opportunity to

talk to speak to that because I know that was a concern yeah that was it should be serious concern absolutely um let's see right under that um is a 49% expended uh it's Solid Waste Disposal and then this one is solid waste disposal other it's right

underneath I believe that is a combination of tire recycling and paint removal um so tires paint mattresses a number of those things have have become expensive hugely expensive um and so there's been some increases there we're looking at some different options we have some very promising uh leads on different ways to to deal with those because right now it's just not sustainable so legitimately that's 50%

of that budget has been expended um yes but I would say that some of it is equipment for for the the barcoding too that's the other part that that I have a note on so there was an initial investment at the start of the fiscal year to um start dealing with you know the the carts uh getting our a handle on how many carts are out there we're about 95% finish with that effort

part of that increase is the initial investment at the start of the year into the scanning machines because they're they're expensive so okay and then the the last line is recycling other 46% is oh is that a similar situation and what what recycling what um area of recycling does that relate to so that I believe is also an open po um that represents about half the Year let me just make sure I'm right on that

um and that I think we're actually closer to 23% on that in terms of actual expended um but that's been encumbered uh for about half the budgeted amount okay um so again how many businesses do we have in Fall River I don't know off top of my head 500 a th000 would you guess I I I've learned over the last almost two years not to guess not to guess it's

just it's it's never a good uh the reason I asked the question and I could be off um last I knew last count we had 303 businesses at a count of 664 carts being picked up every week that's significant it's huge and I actually think it's a few more carts than that that might be in the in the investigation we've done I think we got a real number and it might be a little

higher so yeah so I I hope I I honestly truly hope for once it's legitimately being addressed um and that the taxpayers can get a little bit of relief uh the relief they should have had a long time ago thank you with that I yield thank you counc counc C7 councelor poso quick question on the recycling on the pilot program that we did for the cardboard any update and any promise

with that so far I don't have an update that I can share publicly at this point um but it was extremely successful is the pilot over it is over but I think there's plans for a expanded pilot okay well not really a pilot anymore but an expanded test because um the response is different depending on what what part of the city you're in um so there's kind of

a a look at tweaking what we did to see if we can make it more successful in some of the other parts of the city where it wasn't received as readily do you think the overall idea that the pilot was successful in his first shop yeah okay and when do you feel we'll get some more information about possibly a revised or expanded pilot program I can talk to director Ola and

director denme tomorrow uh and find out I think we he and I or the the the the group talked about this maybe sometime in the last 10 days and I I don't have a date um so let me get a date for you and I'll let the rest of the council know appreciate that thank you thank you counc Council C1 Council uh thank you just more of a statement than a a

question so um I'd be remissed if I didn't take the opportunity to comment on what council C2 has mentioned because I I think it's pertinent to a lot of the discussions that we've been having as of late in terms of what the role and responsibility is of the city council and I think her line of questioning with regard to business trash um highlights what I been saying we as a council can

say to the administration stop picking up business trash we've got an ordinance that says we will not pick up business trash stop picking up business trash save us money guess what still picking up business trash right because we have no authority to tell the administration to stop picking up business trash okay we've already done everything that we can from a legislative standpoint we've

got an ordinance say you're not going to pick up business trash we've reviewed the budget we say can we save some money money stop picking up business trash we've had this conversation for over two years right okay four years and we know that we should not be picking up business trash and we're still in the same place where business trash is still being picked up so for those that

constantly want to come down to the city council ask the city council what their plan is and what their approach is going to be from the day-to-day operation of the city the city council has no control or authority over that and this is just a perfect example of what I've been trying to explain to folks so I'd be remiss if I didn't point that out um you know I think we could if we wanted to

during the budget process reduce the budget by what we would say is an estimated cost but again it would be an estimated cost because we don't have those actual numbers coming down um so but outside of that and the impact to the city budget and not not doing our our due diligence to see what that impact would truly mean to the dep Department uh would be somewhat irresponsible but in terms of the fact

that we have been suggesting as a council put a resolution in it's outside our our control and I just want to make that clear without a yield thank you councelor there no further questions thank you for coming down thank you appreciate it how are we doing with the reports for the next quarter will we get them on time we filed these reports on time so yes yes f last that time we had to

wait the fourth quarter report was that time item number five in accordance with the provisions of chapter 44 section 32 of the mutes general laws I recommend the following Appropriations to your honorable body that the sum of $ 38,840 be and the same is hereby appropriated to the reserve fund from the tax levy there a motion motion to refer motion to refer to full Council has been made in

second all in favor any oppose motion carries item number two that the sum of $150,000 being in the same is appropriated to the overlay account from the tax levy can I just Mr President is there a motion first US hold on um can we just I need a motion first US councelor I I I was just wondering if we can just get an explanation as to the reasoning behind some of these transfers

excuse me I'm just looking for the reason behind some of these transfers yeah we can call them back down if you like Finance yeah could you come down Seth and I apologize problem and and uh and Bridget

Bridget

150 so could you just quickly explain the uh reasoning behind the transfers I I know item number three is pretty self-explanatory in terms of the uh um Bristol agie with the assessment requirement coming in but the other two so as as you know this around this time we get what our new growth really um comes in at so we know that we have additional new growth and we would like to put some more additional funding to

the reserve fund from New Growth and increase the overlay because based on discussions with Council and the assessor's office we're going we should be increasing that by 150,000 so can I just continue to ask question absolutely when Finance so just in terms of so the tax levy so you're just looking to appropriate it as opposed to just letting it fall free cash so you would have that ability for the

appropriation yes to make transfers into the uh Reserve fund so the the overlay account I understand the overlay account where are we so the assessment on the overlay do we need more money in the overlay account so typically I haven't seen and I know we' seen the 950 coming in as an expense which is just coming out of the taxes back into the the overlay account um have we done an assessment as in terms

of what the outstanding liability is versus what and are we to based on the conversations that I have had with um the council that works on all the abatements and land court and everything and with the assessor's office and because of the um statistical reval they feel they are requesting These funds in there based on things that they know that are not available to be discussed right now

publicly do you I I guess the does 150,000 cover it is there a surplus is there are we keeping a no because as you know you don't want to go more than the 5ye you want to pay attention to your five-year average so we we took that into account when we were looking at this as well all right and I guess just for those folks that are not familiar with the overlay account so just a quick

educational piece is is once we get we have our real estate tax um money is set aside into an overlay account which is essentially a a savings account for any type of abatements that come through that were required if somebody's questioning their value ation that's where the money comes out of um so it's in a separate checking account and at times you just want to be able to review that and if there is any surplus in

there you can use that in and re with the vote of the assessors uh the board of assessors move that money back into revenue account for the um for the city so that's why I asked that question okay sorry um and then the Bristol agie is just the the assessment right right yes the assessment that they provided us when we were preparing the budget and then when we got our actual invoice

was different okay is that because most students mostly because no that it's actually because of the capital they that's what I was going to ask is because of the debt building assessment all right I thank you thank you councelor item number three at the sum of 31,000 we do item two Mr President we're doing item two now I thought you said item three okay I did we just finished item so we move on item three

item two is all done but did we make a motion to refer that to full we don't need a motion to refer because it's already in the agenda in the full Council all right any more question for item two I thought that was the last question so we're all done with item two then as I said item number three that the sum of 31,2 4864 being the same as hereby appropriated to the intergovernmental

expense Bristol agricultural assessment from the reserve fund it's an increase due to tuition tuition debt assessment adjusted on September 29th 2023 any questions no pretty simple solution there all right motion is verify second no before that we have one individual who wishes to speak Danny Road subject matter Bank Street

Armory

sense got it got

it you need

help boxes they it was over there I probably don't even need a mic no we got it we'll fix it got it thank you Sean thank thank you sir council president camarra members of the council good evening before I begin I want to say that I'm here as a private citizen tonight and I'm only speaking for myself and not any uh not as a member of any board or commission that I

may serve on you know I'm reminded tonight of the late Council Al Elves and the late councilor John Mitchell and they uh John madas excuse me and both of them said this would have been a wonderful job if they never had to vote I can see Council ales sitting in Shan seat right now and tonight a Four River gem is on the agenda I don't know what the plans could be for that building

because nothing was ever studied I do know that I'm not a huge fan of the CPA but if there was ever one project that deserves CPA money it's the bank Street Armory it's a historic building it's a cultural building there it can be revitalized to let this go would be an absolute crime we talk about Opa Money's been plugged into the budget for the last two years we bonded more money in this city

in the last decade than I can shake a stick at I remember the old now demolished dery High School I remember I don't know if it was a I believe it was a separate bond for a football field that totaled 10 to 15 million just for a football field so I think to let this uh to what this project go without further study without possible bonding without CPA money without other conversations being

had would be an absolute travesty and I say this is the last the last major vote of this Council term be on the right side of preserving a piece of forward with history thank you very much thank you Danny entertain a motion to adjourn Finance motion to adj finance second motion remain second all in favor I any opposed Finance is now adjourned regular city council meeting will begin in five minutes C please take your

seats city council please come to order cler will call the RO council is kadim here Dion here Kilby Liberty peler here Perera hereo here Washington here president CRA here will everyone in the council chair please rise for a moment of Silent

prayer please remain standing to salute to the flag i al to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for all pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit this meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that

such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and not deemed acknowledged and permissible Madam Court Mr President the first item before you is a communication from the mayor and the order for the bank Street Armory Proposal review in recommendation which was objected to at the motion to Grant leave to withdraw second a motion to

lift the item from the table motion to lift item from the table second motion to lift the item from the table has been made in seconded all in favor I any opposed motion candes motion to Grant leave to withdraw second motion to Grant Le to aor has been made and seconded on the motion come to see to yeah the reason um you know I think I see I mean I voted no

the two times before but I think at this point we can all see an Avenue um we can see an Avenue of funding we see a community that obviously doesn't want this building turned over or destroyed um I think it it can be a vibrant building again and if we can get Federal monies we definitely know we can get CPA funding We There is funding available out there um you know just just the envelope of

the building securing it to make sure there's no further damage is not going to be $5 million CPC monies can be put into that immediately so with that I yield thank can I say something con C6 vice president per I mean the only thing that I'd like to add is this is not anything new I put in a resolution in April to look at what we were going to

do with the Armory and we didn't get it in this Council till July and I just feel like it's moving too fast you hear what people are saying uh if there is federal money available let's apply for it John Brandt they said they could give us five million you're not going to fix the Army overnight you might not do it in a year but let's start planning and have something the youth in our

community really have little to do especially when the winter months come you have cd wreck in small buildings playing volleyball in a courtroom I mean come on you say you care about youth well put your money where your mouth is and let's do something for the Youth elderly can use that building and that was the home of our veterans veterans get quarters money every year to maintain their quarters they're going to

be putting money into that building they still have things in that building and I was in that building because we were looking at some decorations we had put there there's a group of people that want to decorate um the carousel for the month of December and have an event there um I was in there the basketball court area that hardwood floor is pretty good the in the front coming in there's

a little bit of issue there that needs to be done you know I've talked to Brick Layers Union the whole building doesn't have to be repointed did certain sections some of the roof has already been fixed just you know I I agree with some people that came and spoke and said we'll try that's our motto but we're not trying and you know Administration puts groups together councelor Dion and I

were on the trash task force and what happened to that that left then they had the OPA money a counselor was on there you know so I don't think that any of these counselors would not want to work to sit down and and assist the administration in let's look at a plan there are people in the Historical Society the preservation society that would like to come forward every time we

do things in this city we never think of calling people from historical or preservation to to see what they think why do we have these boards if we're not going to listen to their input um I I'll give it leave to withdraw I'll give it a motion to to table I just think you need to wo pull on these horses hang on think this through before just voting and I

it's nothing to do with any developer or anything but what are we doing for the residents of our community and who are we here to serve there is funding available so if that's what's holding some of my colleagues up I can tell you that John Brandt said they could get 5 million they couldn't give us 10 but they could give us five I don't know I just think it's a building worth saving

but with that I Y Mr President thank you councelor C C1 coun Kim thank you s you know I find myself going back and forth and and I you know here's the issue I I don't love and I've said this from from day one I do not love the proposal that's being suggested for the bank Street Armory um I don't think we need more housing and quite frankly um I

think I was at a I was at a tip board meeting on Monday and it just kind of reinforced the um dislike for the proposal that was was there because I mean I think we've we reviewed three different tiffs all of them which are creating uh additional market rate housing um and it just I don't know that we need more market rate housing at the bank Street army with that being

said I respect what everybody is saying in terms of CPA money um you know I was the one that brought up whether or not CPA money was even considered when we having the conversation my concern and the biggest concern that I have is that we can all sit here and say that we want to use CPA funds for this project um John Brandt can say that he wants to give us CPA funding however we do not

submit the application and again this is where I come back to the community needs to understand what our local government is right we are a legislative body we cannot force the mayor to submit an application to uh CPC nor can we force CPC to give us the money there needs to be an application and we can't then just say by the way we want we want to do this project or that

project we can only approve the projects that have been submitted To Us by CPC so if CPC decides that they do not want to submit a project to us we have no Authority or jurisdiction to suggest that the money go to another project right so again it comes back down to this is what submitted to us right this is what we have to deal with we either agree with it or we reject it okay and

then we hope that they're listening to what we're saying and telling them that we want to see this money spent for the this purpose I don't disagree with Mr robelot in terms of the statement I I support the CPA I think it's it's a phenomenal Tool uh for what it's used for and and the money that's that coming in but I will say that I think there are communities do a better

job of utilizing CPA monies than the city of Fall River there's so much money that is going out to private um organizations for um you know for them to additional money for their for their renovation projects whatever the case may be we never see enough quality projects that are coming back that are going to benefit the community so I don't disagree with them this is probably the best project um that would

come down from the CPC if there was funding for the bake Street Army my concern however is how do we get the administration on board we've all said it we've heard from the administration that this is not a priority I've said this before that you know we we've supported um funding coming down debt coming down for or borrowing I should say coming down for fire stations we've talked about you know increasing um you

know budgets for Parx and reck we've had conversations that we just talked about business trash do away with the business trash let's save $2 million again all falling on on deaf ears and I recognize and I'm on the administration side as well which is why I try to make sure we walk that fine line and that we understand what our roles and responsibilities are because they may have PL

and views of what's going on because this all ties into a pool of money so with that being said one we haven't been told or at least I don't have the document in front of me and I haven't seen a dollar dollar amount uh what it would require to fix the bank Street omry to what extent um so in order to take a educated vote not knowing what that dollar amount is

it $10 million is it $15 million is it $20 million I'm not sure and and to what extent what what's the use what's the end goal um I personally and I've said this before i' I'd like to see some offices in there um potentially the you know the court being maybe rented out do an RFP let somebody uh have the right to to utilize that space maybe some Revenue um

sharing aspect to it I mean I know uh Council perea has talked about the veterans going in there there are so many different opportunities that's going on um but I think we need to consider this and without having a conversation with the administration a real detailed conversation at least from my standpoint because I I ran the numbers on a Debt Service um at $20 million let's just assume that the

project costs $20 million on a 30-year Bond at um 3.5% interest I know it's probably going to be higher than that but that's just what I put in there um it's just under $1.1 million per year right so then if you say okay maybe we get you know the um we get the CP CPC or we get theor to agree to submit an application for CPC um they give us $5 million that

comes down to $15 million that we would we would Bond our debt service would be at $815,000 that's assuming that it was at 20 million if we're talking about Renovations at 10 million right without any CPC money that cost to us is 543,000 per year for 30 years based on the three and a half% if we get $5 million from CPC on that then we're talking about $271,000 coming from the town

$271,000 per year for the next 30 Years coming from CPC which they have the authority to bond does that make it more pable right I would say yes right but again this comes back down to the fact that and this is my concern if the administration is not committed to maintaining this building and holding the building all we are doing and this is why I got frustrated when we're saying when people are saying that we're

being bought right it's not about being bought it's by it's the fact that if we cannot force the administration to do something so if they determine that it is not a priority and they do the bare minimum to that building and it continues to deteriorate then we're going to have a problem because the building that we say has so much potential is going to be in worse shape and that's the concern that I have um

and I and I appreciate I've had the conversation with I got to be honest I this is probably the most conversation that I've had with any citizen uh leading up to it I the first two votes I didn't have any conversations with anybody now we're we're going on to the third vote and it it just seems like I'm bumping into everybody and East Providence and I mean it's it's absolutely mind-boggling the number of

people that I'm running into which by the way and I just want to clarify if anybody knows me I do not get persuaded you know I just I I try to vote my conscience I try to vote based on the information that's in front of me vote on what I feel is in the best interest of the city of Fall River and that's what I do so that being said I cannot

take a vote right now and and I was questioning why Council Pereira at the last meeting was going to object what that would do um you know I think she she benefited from it because um had I not gone to the Tiff board meeting had I not had a conversation with a couple of folks in terms of new Revenue new Revenue sources coming down in the CPC um that I would I would still be firmly

set on yes a yes vote for giving it to the developer to have it developed so that we can preserve that building as it currently stands and it continues to be part of the landscape of Fall River um that being said I'm not convinced right now that we cannot do both preserve that building to make sure that it is in the landscape of Fall River and continues to be part of the landscape of Fall River

but that also that has a a community benefit um to the generation and and I will say there are a lot of people that are coming in um and there's sentimental value behind that right that you know I I went there there was the first circus that I went to I I played basketball there and and we've all have stories in in terms of the connection that that building has but I think sometimes we've

got to remove that emotional component of making decisions and make sure that we're making the right decisions so that being said there is a sentimental value but from my standpoint I just want to make sure that everybody understands that the decision that I'm making is is based on what is in the best interest of the city what's in the best interest of that building and making sure that it's

preserved so that being said I personally do not have enough information to make a very conscious decision and one that I can sleep with at night um so with that I'm going to make a motion to table give myself the opportunity to speak more more length with the uh Administration to see what their hesitation is whether or not there's any willingness to really even Explore um multiple funding

opportunities uh things of that nature and based on that you know if we come back in two weeks we we take it from the table maybe I have more information to make a decision um and as I have told people I am not committing to turning my vote if I had to take a vote now uh the vote would be to give it to the developer and let him develop you know

marcker rate housing and the only reason is because then at that point I know that building will remain standing that's the concern that I have and I and I got to be honest in some of this valuations and and I've talked to you know several folks listen if I bought it at 40,000 50,000 I'd demolish that building I I'd make more money just off the stone the wood everything in there and I'm not I'm

not naive to that fact uh but unfortunately that's just the way the public sector Works in terms of the when they sell their real estate the real estate it it's at a lower value than commercial property um that doesn't mean that we need to go in that direction but that's where it is so I I just personally need a little bit more time to talk to the administration so I'm

going to make a motion to table if it's supported it's supported if it's not so be it motion to table motion to table has been made is there second second second roll call there was a motion to leave to withdraw meeting second motion table take president councelor okay thank you on the motion to table councilors kadim yes Dion yes Kilby yes La Liberty yes peler yes Perera yes Roso yes

Washington yes president yes motion is now table mam Qui item is now Ted

item number two is a communication from the mayor and in order to accept a donation from Rhode Island novelty of four boxes of miscellaneous toes to be used at the tree lighting event in December motion adopt adop Mee in second it all in favor I and the oo on the motion to adopt Council seat 6 can we send um Rhode Island novel to you thank you yeah we always do we will thank you

councelor motion to adopt has a seconded all in favor I any opposed motion carries item number three is a communication from the mayor and an order to accept the mass Executive Office of Public Safety and Security Municipal Road safety program award in the amount of $60,000 to fund additional traffic enforcement patrols to increase Road Safety motion to adopt second motion drop main second all in favor I

any opposed motion carries item number four is a communication from the mayor and a proposal for Bristol County oper funding in the amount of $35,200 for the open space and recreational plan motion to approve second second motion to approve the M second all in favor I any opposed motion carries item number five are appropriation orders the first that the sum of 300 8,843 B and the same is hereby

appropriated from the tax levy to the reserve fund motion made second motion to adopt has a made in second it all in favor I I any opposed motion carries 5 b that the sum of $150,000 be and the same is hereby appropriated from the tax levy to Overlay account motion to adopt motion adopt as a made and seconded all in favor I any oppos motion carries and 5 C that the sum of $ 31,2

4864 B and the same is hereby appropriated from the reserve fund to intergovernmental expenses for Bristol County Agricultural assessment motion to adopt motion second all in favor I any opposed motion carries item six are request from the traffic commission to amend the ordinances MO be referred to committee an in legislation motion so made motion has been seconded all in favor I any opposed motion

carries item 7A is the planning board's recommendation not to approve the discontinuance of Ash Street extending from Center Street to Globe Street motion Grant order leave to withdraw motion to accept the recommendation Grant leave to withdraw has been made in second it all in favor I any opposed motion carries 7 B is the planning board's recommendation not to approve the discontinuance of Center Street

extending from Ash Street to South Beacon Street same motion riew motion to accept recommendation Grant order leave to withdraw second motion accept recommendation Grant order Le todraw meet in seconded all in favor I any opposed motion carries item 8A is the planning board's recommendation to approve the acceptance of Gate housee Drive extending from Maple Street to Prospect Street motion to approve second motioning

board's recommendation motion to accept the recommendation adopt the order has been made and seconded all in favor I any opposed motion carries 8B is the planning board's recommendation to approve the acceptance of Mohawk Drive extending from Indian toown Road back to Indiantown Road motion to approve planning board's recommendation second to accept the recommendation adopt the order has been made and seconded all in

favor I any opposed motion carries and 8 C is the planning board's recommendation to accept uh excuse me to discontinue the uh Vine Street from South Beacon to Ash Street motion to approve planning Bo's recommendation second motion second recommendation adopt the order has been made and seconded all in favor I any opposed motion carries item nine is in order scheduling a hearing for the street acceptance for

Hayfield Lane extending from Highland Farm Road to northern and southern Terminus motion submit schedule to adopt as a made in seconded all in favor I any opposed motion carries item 10 is in order scheduling a public hearing for the of Highland Farm Road extending from Highland Avenue to Hayfield Lane motion to adop to adopt motion to adopt as a remain in seconded all in favor I I any

opposed motion carries item 10 is in order scheduling a public hearing for the acceptance of old pasture way extending from Highland Farm Road to ter motion to adopt second second motion to adopt as a remain in second all in favor I I any opposed motion carries item 12 is in order scheduling the hearing for the acceptance of steep Brook Terrace extending from Highland Farm Road to the

Terminus motion to adopt second motion to adopt as a made seconded all in favor I any opposed motion carries item 13 is in order cancelling the city council committee on finance and regular meetings scheduled for December 26th tell us why been canceled M clar Government Center is closed on the 26th just want to let the people know motion to adop as remain second all in favor I I any opposed motion carries

item 14 is the police chief's report on licenses motion to adopt motion to adopt as a made in second it all in favor I any opposed motion carries item 15 is in order for the um renewal of an application for an auto body shop license on behalf of competitive auto body and sales at 1021 Locust Street motion to adopt motion to adopt as a made second all in favor I any opposed motion

carries item 16 is in order and application for the renewal of auto repair shop license for Tony's gas and repair at 402 Brightman Street motion to adopt second motion to adopt as a made in second all in favor I I any opposed motion carries item 17 is in order granting permission for the transfer of an auto repair shop license located at 681 Bron Avenue from Nuno dudo doing business as easy Auto Repair to cardoo

garage doing business as easy Auto Repair motion to adopt second second motion to adopt as a me seconded all in favor I any opposed motion carries have a number of claims motion forward a corporation councel motion referred claims to Corporation Council has a made in seconded all in favor I any opposed motion carries item 19 is a communication from a city resident expressing interest in the

purchase of a parcel of City motion to refer to real estate second motion to refer the committee on real estate has been made and seconded all in favor I any opposed motion carries item 20 is a request for the a placement of a structure onor over a public way on behalf of the elections Department motion to approve second motion to adopt has approve has been made in seconded

all in favor I I any oos OS motion to take 22 to 25 21 21 21 21 skip 21 no let's get 21 done mam clerk y 21 is a drain layers license on behalf of R City construction company motion to approve motion to approve that been made in seconded all in favor I any opposed motion carries motion to take 22 to 25 second motion to take item 22 23 24 and 25 together has

been made and seconded all in favor I any opposed motion carries on a motion is there a motion to approve all for motion approve motion to approve that been made and seconded all in favor any opposed motion carries item 26 is a notice of personal injury um at 300 Amity Street uh refer to Corporation councel motion refer to Corporation Council has a me in second all in favor any opposed motion

carries the committee on ordinances and legislation at a meeting held on October 24th voted unanimously to recommend the accompanying proposed ordinance accompanied by an emergency Preamble be passed through first reading second reading passed to be enrolled and passed to be ordained this is a handicapped parking ordinance motion so made motion motion for emergeny second motion emergency Preamble has a read in

seconded all in favor I right roll call sorry about that on adoption of the Preamble councilor is kadim yes Dion yes Kilby yes La Liberty yes peler Pereira yes Roso yes Washington yes president CRA yes motion to adopt motion to adopt second pass through all four readings motion to adopt and pass through all four readings motion enrollment pass through first reading second reading enrollment

and ordination has it made and second all in favor I I any opposed motion carries committee on ordinances and legislation at a meeting held on October 24th voted unanimously to recommend that the accompanying proposed ordinance be passed through first reading this is a miscellaneous traffic ordinance motion to pass through first reading motion to pass through first reading has been made

in seconded all in favor I I any opposed motion carries that's all we have Mr President motion to adjourn second motion to adj has made and seconded all in favor I sign first no no signs today just want to wish everyone and uh good luck next week's election on the 7th and hope the residents get out there and show their support for who they want to bring to office hope they all get out and vote

city council meeting is now adjourned thank you over over heyyy hey hey hey hey hey hey

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