10.25.2022 Fall River City Council

city council come to order clerk will call the rooll council is kadim Dion here Kilby here La Liberty here peler here perrera here Roso here Washington here president CA here entertain a motion to open the public hearing motion to open the public hearing made by Council di second by counc pres I think you have to read the uh correct the language correct thank you Council thank you pursuant to the open meeting law any

person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit this meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or un unperceived by those present and not deemed acknowledged and permissible item number one is a poll Rel uh location and relocations Massachusetts electric company and

Verizon New England Inc for newly joint owned pole locations and relocations as follows bford and Seabury Street six new jointly owned pole locations and two jointly owned pole relocations um install six jointly owned pole and relocate two jointly owned poles on Beth Street and seberry Street beginning at a point approximately 50 feet east of the center line of the intersection of be Street and 12th

Street and continuing approximately 950 ft in the west Direction extending overhead con uh conductor conductor along Beford Street for system reliability polls on adjacent streets relocated to support additional conductors in accordance with the plan number 297 48813 dated September 19th 2022 are there any proponents to this proposal come on down please state your name and address for the

reckon uh hello my name is Patrick yumian I am a Contracting engineer for National Grid um I did the design for this um basically it's just extending the pole line down Bedford Street um we're relocating one pole uh near 12th Street just to um or sorry 11th Street just to um even out the span distances make it easier for the pole loadings to work out um and then kind of same thing for seaby

Street um any qu any questions thank you thank you thank you so much you might as well stay there you get the next one right yeah I do motion to close heing hold on see if there's any opponents slow down just a little bit are there any opponents to this public hearing there being no opponents I motion to close made by counc Kilby second by counc propo item number two underground conduit Massachusetts electric company

for an underground conduit located as follows beff Street installs 65 ft of conduit from the south side of Beford Street to pole 19 on the north side of be Street near the intersection of Beford Street and for and Ford Street and installed 63 ft of conduit from manhole 24 East along beff Street to pole 23/50 manle 24 is located at the intersection of 12th Street and Beford Street in accordance with the plan number

30333 673 dated September 19th 2022 Mr President need a motion open second motion to open has been made by counos second by counc Pera are there any proponents to this this also has a condition attached there is a condition IED the roadway restoration curb to curb requirement so there will be a curb to curb roadway requirement on this okay okay are there any proponents and go right ahead so all do again um yep so

this is kind of just tying into that uh the other uh pole Replacements and pole installs um they just tie into existing switch gear and Transformers that are within the underground system along Bedford Street um yeah this really just a a improved system reliability along Bedford Street all right thank you very much thank you are there any opponents to this public hearing seeing no opponents motion to

close public he made by Council propos second by Council Pereira public hearing motion to adjourn the public hearing motion to adjourn has been made by council opposal is there second second all in favor I all the cares now adjourned

can I have the

book we have a couple of indidual have signed up for citizen input time first we have Colin Das subject matter NBTA and Charter committee

thank you um council president members of the city council um before I begin usually when I watch these proceedings usually there's a separate vote to open the finance meeting I don't know if it's different now but anyways I wanted to come down today because um I'm really confused as to why we have on today's agenda a vote to support a ballot question and a vote to give the MBTA easan access when the voters have not

even taken a vote on this project yet I think it's putting the cart before the horse I think the vote to support the yes side the no side or any side of any ballot question is illegal I think it's unethical and regardless regardless the city council should not have a role in any ballot question whatsoever the council shouldn't take sides on any ballot question that is to be decided by the people in just a few

weeks I would even make the equation that this equates to election interference persuading individuals to speak in a public on how they should vote in a public building um and I think this will lead down to a slippery slope and I don't know what would what would be next um are we going to support candidates for reelection are we going to support candidates in the next year's election I I'm just confused and quickly

on um the selection for the charter committee um I think it's a huge disrespect to this Council that the names that the mayor sent down on the charter committee were resubmitted when this city council just voted no a few weeks prior I would agree with um some of the sentiments of the council especially the council or in to that I would like to see a diverse board and individuals who

have knowledge experience and crafting a charter committee and have no political connections I think that's what the city should see I think that's what would be best for our constituents and I thank everyone for your time thank you thank you just want to state that in the past we used to have citizens put time before Finance but the clerk has brought to my attention that we need to open the

finance committee I'll entertain an open uh entertain a motion to open the finance committee motion to finance motion has been made by Council Pereira second by Council Kelby pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting and may transmit this meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are

being made with P perceived or unperceived by those present and not deemed acknowledged and permissible thank you the second individual we have to speak is Nelson Vasquez subject matter

NBTA uh Nelson bqu 210 Sunset H so I suppose everyone received my emails confirming everything that I said uh at my last council meeting you know the other the proponents for the rail are telling the constituents here and for over the airwaves on social media don't worry about it you vote for this you won't have to worry about anything you won't have to worry about being displaced it's

all going to be great but you see this article here just came out not too long ago and it says rents Skyrocket near NBTA stops I mean we have provided the human toll that this project is going to Bear down on the the people and with skyrocketing rents which they will increase we all know what it's going to come with eviction notice it's so bad that an article in from uh new Beford has already gave for

a preview of what's to happen because now residents in new Beford just received a notice that they're going to be displaced because an out of town investor came in bought the building and it been giving a notice to leave you know and not too long ago uh there was an article about seniors just struggling to maintain their household and they getting priced out you know with all this marate housing all everywhere

including this for the other side to not even acknowledge the human toll that this is going to Bear is totally disingenuous to the public here we don't provide speculation about this project we're providing the reality of the situation we don't know how that project is going to go I can tell you this people are not going to be able to afford to live in farer for much longer that's not speculation that's a

fact so you know and look and the fact that this is resolution before you before the vote even takes place the election needs to be respected this is the second time that plans go into motion without the people wearing weighing in their decision cuz a Project's got started before them voting on it and now this resolution with the easement the People needs to be respected the election needs to be

respected so again we don't need to give you speculation this is going to price out our people and to me that's not stability that's catastrophic so with that thank you for your time thank you Council can we just get a a roll call we took the the motion was made in second to open but I never asked for a roll call Madam clerk can you call the rooll please to open the finance

committee council is kadim here Dion here Kilby here bbery here peler here Herrera here Roso y Washington here president C here um there being no one left to speak before is I'm gonna have uh Paul frin come down he's uh we had a watermain break this morning and he's going to address just so the public will be aware of what we're doing about the water break and just be real brief Mr ferland please before we begin

Finance uh good evening councilors uh thought I had a night off but uh back here but anyways um so I just wanted to uh talk a little bit about uh an incident that uh occurred this morning and is uh currently still ongoing um we had a water main break in the 600 block of Brighton hav uh early this morning about 5:00 uh in the morning we were able to isolate that section uh of water M um

once we started to excavate down to the water main there was uh there was clear signs of contamination um below grade um so uh something that we uh you know that concerned us the water department is uh the safety of uh of our uh drinking water the public that drinks the water um so the water main was under pressure the whole entire time uh until we fully isolated that section of water M uh once

we isolated that section of water M uh it was not under pressure anymore uh and the concern would could be that uh some of the contamination that was found in the ground could uh go into that section of water M um that section of water M uh again is isolated from the whole entire rest of the system uh what what we're doing as a precautionary measure measure is uh we have a contractor out on site

and we're putting out temporary bypass piping uh to supply the 20 residents that are without water right now um because we want to leave that section of main offline until we're able to properly sample uh to make sure that there was no contamination that entered uh that water main uh in that area um so as I said there's about 20 residents um so the 600 block of Brighton Avenue as

well as uh some residents on reev street and abidine Street um the problem with uh short notice of putting uh bypass out and connecting them so bypass is the uh temporary water lines that run above the surface of the ground and then there's a ho that feeds from that bypass uh into the house uh the problem with that is uh by regulations uh to properly set up bypass you need to set up bypass and

then chlorinate it uh to disinfect uh the bypass get a clean uh bacterial sample uh and then you're able to connect uh residents to that uh to that bypass uh we don't have the time uh bacterial samples take roughly about 24 hours to uh to get back uh so the contract we have a contractor out there on site working on setting up bypass uh we expect that all customers will be uh

able to be turned over to the bypass um by about 10:00 uh tonight um but for those 20 residents we are going to have a boiled water uh in effect until we are able to get a clean um coliform sample on the temporary bypass that's out there again it's a safety precaution to make sure uh that U that it's safe bypass will be hooked up tonight uh tomorrow we

will uh we will um sample first thing in the morning get our sample off to the lab get the results back uh Wednesday morning um we are making personal contact between our staff uh we've had Wastewater staff out there uh we have a LSP um that D required us to bring in uh which is a licensed site professional due to the contamination um so I just wanted to uh let the council know so it's about 20

residents uh prior to us turning them back on we are making personal contact with uh each household uh to let them know of the condition of what's going on um we have I have been in contact uh with D um both the uh hazardous Response Team uh all day as well as the uh drinking water program in DP they're fully aware of the steps and precautions that we're taking uh in our on board

with what we're doing so again I just wanted to give the council uh this update uh it's a uh changing by the minute sometimes today but uh we're out there uh like I said hopefully the residents do have uh that uh that their water on able to uh shower and use for other household chores um what a boiled water order means uh is uh that we don't recommend not using it to drink uh wash

dishes or cook with uh if they want to use it brush teeth uh if they want to use it for anything we recommend that they boil the water to a rolling boil for a 1 minute period uh and then let it cool and they're able to use it for uh any of those activities so if there's any questions I think most of you have my cell phone so feel free to contact me

thank you thank you thank you appreciate the update we have a a couple of transfers in accordance with the provisions of chapter 44 section 32 of the Massachusetts general laws I recommend the following appropriation to your honorable body that the sum of 1, 370,000 be and the same is appropriated to the school appropriation from the tax levy refer to full Council what was a motion motion refer

to full Council we don't need a referral it's already in so good we'll just questions uh motion minut second to referral all in favor I I we intend it anyways I got we're gonna we're going to talk on a motion um can you come down set we have some Council have some questions it's a nut go

spending good evening con see two different question yes can you define explain or clarify what taking a school appropriation from a tax levy means so we're not taking it from the tax levy so as we're um getting the new growth numbers we're increasing the levy with by the additional New Growth that the assessor's office has identified and we need to transfer the 1.3 to the schools because when they um there was

about one point just about that same amount that they thought that the schools were going to use from some other funding to offset the cost for the city for net School spending yes and so that didn't actually come to fruition our budget had already come down it was already being approved at that time so we we've been in conversations with the school department all along so again I

guess my question is because it reads the school appropriation from the tax levy FY again so the so we are going to have an additional New Growth so we had about 1.8 million in New Growth in the budget that was appropriated in June and there's going to be an additional uh just over that in New Growth okay so then the money technically isn't there yet because we're going to have additional funding to fund this item

correct so we're voting to pay it with money that's not there yet well it there it will be there because it's part will be part of our our right but it's not there yet well it'll be there this year okay um so on the July 12th agenda uh mayor in order transferring the sum of 1 uh let me see 1,300,000 from fy21 Surplus Revenue to stabilization fund is it was at that

time was there any idea that that would take care of this that won't take care of that because the city received a letter back the February before saying they were about 3 million short in net School spending three million short but so that 1.3 was making up the to take care of the 3 million from the years before okay that went that went in the stabilization fund and we transferred it out of

there what went into the stabilization fund for 1,300,000 we transferred money out of the Surplus Revenue to give the schools funds to make up for what we were short that we received a letter from Jessie okay I'm just looking at the agenda mayor in order transferring the sum of $1.3 million from fy21 Surplus Revenue to the stabilization fund so I just didn't see the trail of going the

1.3 going into the stabilization then coming out and and because that 1.3 was for was in fy22 this this 1.37 that you're doing is for FY 23 budget of for net School spending okay so the 1.3 that you just said we already used to to towards a 300 million was which one so there was we there was two transfers that happened at the end towards the end of last year after February because the city received

a letter from the Department of second okay and so we those transfers that's what I thought you were talking about I apologize was to make up for that three million short at the end of the year we transferred the 1.3 to the stabilization from that we had a balance of free cash I could not transfer fy22 money to pay an FY 23 budget correct that's why you're seeing the two different they

just happen to be close in amounts okay um all right so I I'm still having a difficult time approving something that we don't have um like I would think we'd wait until we had the money in our budget before we'd expend the money well and there were no and can I ask um in the future for backup documentation so we can read it in advance and and and that I wouldn't have to ask some of these

questions so I I mean I apologize I so the new growth is something that happens typically and as it gets normally we would know those new growth numbers more definitively but the city took a an opportunity I guess of an 18mon so no your new growth prior to a year ago used to happen in December was certified now it goes to the end of June so we didn't have exact numbers so I the assessor's

office was still working on that so when we did the budget we did not know what the new growth would be so now we know what the new growth is so it will be part of the tax levy for FY 23 so you will have that money it'll be part of what's going going out in the tax bills okay that I yield thank you Council Council one Council thank you so the so you've already received your

certification on the new growth from DLS they're working on that right now okay so so I that I just want to clarify that so typically I mean just to councelor and c2's point so that the money is just an assumption of revenues coming in and then obviously with a new change usually by you know October end of October you get a certification from do that will tell you you New Growth so typically

what has happened in the past we obviously a conservative with the the estimates and then sometimes they come in higher so you've got a surplus and revenue which will then just obviously if we're not doing an appropriation what the tax recap would flow to free cash that's um my question is in terms of the 1.3 there you you had mentioned there's a $3 million deficit did we cover that $3

million we covered that $3 million defic last last year okay but it was rolled over from two prior years right um so the 1.37 is that giving us 100% of that school spending or do we anticipate additional money is needing to go over to the to schools to fulfill the 100% of that school spending so that fulfills their budget uh we're going through the end of year reports now mhm

and based on that we're hoping that it's going to be 100% um I had just one question that's kind of tied into the schools not necessarily the transfer so if you quickly and and if you don't have the answer if you can just kind of um I I think just send me an email or something along the lines but uh amerol of bus I know this has been an ongoing uh discussion there was I guess a

settlement uh that was made for amoral bus for services that were provided um and I think this all relates back to the covid uh Transportation so I know the city is on the hook for any type of settlements um I I'm just hearing that the settlement should have taken place within six months well the payment should have taken place within six months of the settlement so the yeah so

we had planned on paying that settlement um for the end of last fiscal year the agreement did not get signed until the end of July and so unfortunately because the way free cash goes you know expires on June we now have to then it's kind of semantics take it from stabilization transfer it into FY 23 and and it's being paid out now so the the agreement does the agreement is a date specific or

was it specific on the execution of the contract so the the agreement itself was the subject of a mediation um so once the mediation was completed actually took a little bit of time to hash out the language of the agreement um so it was July before we we nailed the thing down it I don't want to get too much into the sub this the the actual um I guess all I'm looking for is is anticipated

payment day that that's all and if there's any I believe it was paid I already on the warrant oh it was okay so you don't you don't require anything from from us in terms of additional transfers or anything of that I just need this transfer because we transferred it last year yeah I know I know what you're looking for um but I just want to make sure in terms of that

that aspect yeah that just happened yeah that just happened all right perfect thank you thank you Council C3 Council Kilby yes uh Council gim clarified my my uh my question so it's a fiscal year 22 fiscal year 23 New Growth stays very consistent that's by the way so it's a safe a safe step so how you thank you councelor counc in seat six Council just a quick question is it number three on the

agenda on the full Council agenda the sum of 180 that's the bus that we're talking about now but that's further down in the agenda yes that's what kadim was talking about on the full Council okay thank you with that I yelled thank you councelor oh okay thanks for the clarification I didn't realize that was the one all right thank you um there being no further questions we don't need a

referral so we will go to the next one item number three in accordance with in with the provisions of chapter 44 section 32 of the Massachusetts general laws I recommend the following Appropriations to your honorable body that the sum of one million 180 million being and the same is hereby transferred to the law expenses from the fiscal year 22 stabilization fund no in finance we're on appropriation of the

2,000 two transfers we're doing the second transfer coun item number three in second transfer okay that's the 180,000 yep transferred from the lower expenses to fiscal year 22 stabilization fund yeah it's not item number three yeah and so that is the settlement um as you might have recalled there there were two litigations ongoing um Amaral bus uh who certainly uh struggled during covid

and and you had expenses that didn't necessarily go away um uh filed suit uh we had a an ongoing dialogue that uh culminated in mediation uh where be able to reach a I believe an equitable settlement for both the city uh and to uh address the the actual out- of-pocket expenses of amall and I think it it worked for all the parties and that's the 180,000 any discussion right thank you very much there's no

referral neither in that one either um item number three now discussion order appropriating $225 from cpay under designated funds for CPA historic resources preservation projects and CPA community housing any questions none is there a motion for the full body Some Mo motion for the full body made Council per by Council pelet all in favor I I motion carries any opposed item number four is a resolution

discussing funding for construction of storage facility area H that was a resolution that was filed and tabled in uh 628 of 22 motion to move from the table motion lift from the table has been made by Council kby second by Council Pereira all in favor I I do you want to give us an update on that

please so just as a starting point um I would say maybe six to eight months ago this Council raised some concerns over one lack of storage uh perhaps just as important the fact that the city was paying for storage um and once we uh were able to put a plan together um Mr denme and some other department heads in the city that were using storage on Seabury Street um got together clear that storage out uh

did an amazing job of very quickly uh figuring out what could be stored elsewhere uh what could be um disposed of what could be scrapped where you know what was even in the Seabury Street storage facility uh that saved the city approximately $60,000 a year uh by no longer having that uh ongoing rental that was a $5,000 a month rental um so that was remarkable work uh on their part um there's a few things that are

now being temporarily stored um in the Armory uh that is not a permanent or long-term solution um however uh the majority of things either do have a permanent home or were um found you know we either disposed of found homes or scrap things like that uh and there's also been quite a bit of progress being made at uh the lewison street facility um with an eye towards um permanent storage the next sort of phase of this

uh to be erected uh I'll turn it over to Mr denm but I just want to say one more thing we are uh We've interviewed all of the candidates who applied for the director of City operations position uh the reason we haven't moved on to start looking at putting uh putting up storage facility revamping lcen Street all that sort of is is one I I wanted the reorg

to go through in order for there to be a point person of both facilities and DCM um who could take a look at um doing uh a intentional professional study of Leon Street to see how we can better improve and use that facility um and so that's going to be one of the things that that person is charged with as uh from day one uh and I think that is going to

significantly change how we uh manage storage in the city I'm going to turn it over to Mr Deni to talk a little bit about specifically what they did in order to address the storage concern that was brought up by this Council uh that many months ago uh good evening councilors um Mr council president uh back in uh say the end of July uh we uh I think it was June we had last sat

and discussed the storage issues and uh we uh dove in and uh we initially uh started to clear out the uh the DCM facility on Leon Street we uh proceeded to uh uh supercharge the auction and uh to this point today we have uh uh sold at auction 17 pieces of the equipment that were there um we still have some left large pieces um but we moved Salters uh uh fire apparatus some of the

uh um uh solid waste collection vehicles that were there um a couple of trolleys vehicles that would sit in there for quite some time we scrapped some metal and we just cleaned up the facility SL we uh went over to um myself and uh uh the director of um facilities maintenance we went down to uh the seberry street property and we did a uh a total evaluation of what we

had there we put some of some of what could onto the auction uh we uh relocated what we could back to the DCM complex and uh some of the items that was being stored there belonged to other entities um we had some items that belonged to that were donated and given to uh uh uh nonprofit organizations donated from uh uh the school department and we relocated them to their facilities um uh and different items um

and we relocated it and at this point today um outside of the uh Christmas decorations that we moved to the Army everything else pretty much was located right back to 10 Leon Street and um we still today have uh room at Leon Street but enough room to accommodate what we generate and what we need to store there one of the biggest issues we had to this point was taking in outside materials and storing that over the

course of time and um keeping an eye on it but um with since um we've uh been donated three conx boxes from the school department that are arriving at the DCM complex this week and that with them we will help facilitate some of the items that the uh facilities maintenance will have and some of the items that we have that we now have stored inside we can rotate into these Conex boxes and L uh the uh

uh maintenance division bring more trucks in to repair to rotate around and just it's just going to ease up the burden that we have storing some of our equipment and these are steel waterproof secure conx uh shipping container type boxes con seat six con I know that you're trying Mr denme to do a lot of this stuff you talk about auctions where were these auctions cuz none of us heard about these auctions

and if it was the online auctions I don't know nobody in the city knew about them so if somebody wanted to buy something that was you know up for auction like some of the oldfashioned lights the blue lights that had for River on them I know Bishop connley had asked for them uh to be donated and they would repair them so what did we get for those maybe they

would have bought them now how did we go around getting this these auction and when was this auction had well all all the auctions there was a time we used to have the auction once a year down at the yard and it was in September we store all the equipment would go out and tag it and on a Saturday morning everybody would come from all around and buy everything that was stored but now

everything and it's been for uh quite some time now everything's goes through the purchas department it's recorded and everything goes online everything and it's it's sent out across the country and and none of the residents here get to know where it's on um purchasing isn't here Tammy was here earlier but I guess she left yeah I'm I'm just curious about that the other thing is

um I have been to the Armory I talked to uh attorney aens about this earlier today I've been in the Armory it's a mess um when you first walk in I don't know if some of that stuff is even dangerous for people to be in the tiles on the floor I can't tell you but they're all ripped up but there is a lot of stuff there why would we put store equipment in the yry if we're

going to sell the yry only to move it again did we pay people to move it there did our workers move it there there's a lot of poles and lights and a lot that if it was just our workers doing it it took them a long time to do it May the majority of of what's in the Armory has been at the Armory like that was not recently moved there there were a few

things from seaby street that were moved to the Armory um that's a temporary situation um Mr denme recently met uh with the team in facilities to make a plan to actually begin clearing out the Armory uh of what's been stored there for a significant period of time not just in the last couple months um so that's that's really the next phase uh of this but we're going to get that

stuff out of there miss aens I like what you're saying but I got to tell you I've been to the Armory a few times that there wasn't as much stuff there there was nothing there that gym was empty and all of a sudden things started going there and they took everything from seberry Street and put it there there's barrels and barrels and barrels of gallin and Bows there's all kinds of Christmas decoration there's

all the lights for the outside lights within the city cases and cases there's the big globes that go on trees matter of fact the park department needs a few of them when we were there Sunday some of their Globes had had broken I just think it was ridiculous I mean I don't know what's going on with the omry and if somebody's not going to buy it then I think the city needs to take a

look at what are we going to do to save it because that is a historic building and in Fall River you just knock everything down and you don't care about things being historic and maybe we can get CPA money whatever we need to try to save that but Mr denme how much is it going to cost us for these Metal Fab buildings or containers that you have and what are

the sizes of them the uh the containers uh that are coming over from the school department they being donated to us from the school department they're free okay so we don't so there's there's no cost whatsoever to that we've already paid for that on the School site so thank you that they're not judging us we're getting them back um what sizes are they uh they're 40 they're 40 Footers so the

big they're the biggest ones you can get yeah the're biggest ones so we got three of those coming in possibly two more down thead road so um it it's a big benefit it's a big boost at the DCM complex now we've cleared out a space to relocate some of the uh materials that are uh that are at the Armory and uh my discussions with Mr bonano we can relocate some of that but once we clear

out that backyard and get the rest of the apparatus and the rest of them Vehicles down there we can bring some of the stuff that's been at that Army for all all this time and uh it's just there just a matter of where we're going to put the everything that's been piled up all this time it's just once we clear it out then we can put the stuff that needs

to be stored in that place you know the issue that I have is a lot of the equipment there especially our trucks and all that in the um garages and stuff if those are not temperature controlled or we're not starting them up moving them around the Rubber and all that it it use it it it's not good things start to rot out and stuff so is there something in plan to do that and

you know to keep those uh machines SED up because you don't use them in the summer but you use them in the winter uh at last time I was by there they were washing them down and uh so I I was happy to see that they were taking care of the equipment um through the summer but that's one of the concerns that they had the other thing is in the Lewiston

Street there's a big tent this humongous tent and that was supposed to be a storage place one Windstorm that tent would blow I don't know I think uh who did we have here for a while they've had so many people at DCM I can't was it Pisano it was um it was a p Mr Mr P Mr pontiano picked that up in uh an auction in New Hampshire about seven eight years

ago and uh pay $33,000 for it and I'm going to suggest that we stick it on our online auction and uh because uh to put that up or spend any money on any any type of storage facility in uh that's not going to last us and we're not going to put the time and effort into doing a true evaluation and putting uh something out there that's going to last and then it's

just not worth it that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen it's almost like a tent that you put up because somebody was having an outdoor wedding yeah but it's not that thick no when you're looking for store things in it's crazy yeah we we had high hopes for that you know when we found it it was it was you weren't you weren't even here you weren't even understand but uh you

know when it was discovered you know that it had been sitting you know unopened in boxes for years uh we thought maybe it would be an option at least on a temporary basis it's really not so no we're going to uh you know as soon as the Director City operations he's or she is going to work with uh Mr denme um and uh the folks in facilities and we're going to develop some some

long-term Solutions but honestly I can applaud you for trying to get rid of storage spaces that's costing us money um and figuring out other ways where we can store things but really what has to happen Lewiston Street needs an overhaul that place is pitiful it's an embarrassment to the city for anybody to have to go to the DCM building it absolutely is and I'd like to see what plans the Administration has to tackling

that um because it really is an embarrassment but Mr denme thank you for trying to come up with some solutions and good luck over at DCM thank you I've heard good things so I'm I have my fingers crossed that things will work well and thank you for what you've done so far with that I yield thank you Council counc Cate Council Washington thank you Mr President I just wanted to um make a statement actually

Mr Deni you're doing a fine job you came in you filled that role and it's literally the round Peg and the round hole like you are doing such a wonderful job I think the people at home should know that morale is up you've saved the city money you're making the city money you have great organizational skills and Leadership skills and you're doing such a fine job thank Youk youil thank you

Council counc C2 Council Diana yeah this is off topic but seeing the subject came up when the city council transferred the uh Armory to the RDA for them to sell the building councel councel we're going to stay on topic I know the subject might have come up but it was about storage things that were put there a little bit with what councelor and C six averted to also okay but let's get back

to the stor go ahead there was a time limit on the purchase when construction would begin we far exceeded that there was a reverter clause that if things weren't done by the timeline the building would be returned to the ownership of the city that's where the CPA funding could come in that the city would get the building back and we could start doing that sort of thing so my question is are we getting the Armory back

so I can't speak to because we could also use it for storage if we had ownership again so there is an interested party uh in fact there's two interested parties in buying it um that party at this point um has a license to do D due diligence um and get uh his engineers and uh other folks into that place to get the best sense of what it would take uh to

rehabilitate the Armory uh to the kind of space that he would need it to be for his intended purpose um is it storage I'm sorry is it intended purpose storage no the the person uh from what I understand would want to actually use it as a as a space in in the city that has is like a venue uh you know has um the kind of thing that would attract people

um and I don't know what the details are specifically of that because it was just uh generally communicated to me uh but that's an ongoing process I know there's another person uh who wants to do the same thing so from what I understand that property is actively in the process um of being put through its Paces by folks that have a genuine interest in uh purchasing it and developing

it thank you interesting thank you that I yield thank you councelor councel in seat seven Council propos Mr Demi quick question you mentioned the trolley they're all no good yeah they were no good we had actually we had uh one purchaser come from California to get one I don't know how they got it back but it sat they they removed it from the yard and it sat across the street for a

couple these but eventually um I'm sure they got uh a truck to to get it back there so we have zero now they're all gone I believe there's one left I believe there's one tucked there might be one tucked away in the back but it it it it's beyond meair and it's on up for auction but I have been looking at pricing for a neutrally I have been looking at it uh I

I've come down to two vendors um I believe one's in Texas and one ones in California they're um but I am looking at pricing for them I hope and I like to I like to acquire one um they they're great they're actual Revenue makers I mean we could raise revenue with them people love them yeah I mean I I I can attest to it my kids at the school have gone on the trolley trips around the

city it's so much better than going on a yellow school bus personally so it's an experience to give our kids and be something to definitely look forward to when we hired out the trolley we had it booked all the time yeah and people just we they would call from everywhere weddings everything it was great could it would it be possible once you get some figures together to come back to us

with that will I appreciate that I thank you thank you that's it C3 K question to that point really quick is would Opa money be um available for that what triggered me is the enjoyment for children what you just said in the uh the fact that is profitable it was it was it was suggested that it may be uh eligible for that and I that's why I started seeking out uh pricing on it uh

right away because it may qualify under Opa I would ask the city administrator to communicate with the mayor with regard to and getting back to us it doesn't have to be a resolution or just getting back to each Council to determine whether or not it's uh it's eligible for one or two be honest with you counc thank you Council Council C1 Council thank you Mr President um I know

I brought this up at a a recent council meeting maybe about a year ago but uh about three or four years ago this this Council has taken a vote to do feasibility studies for DPW to uh look at a feasibility study for Central fire station and then Stanley uh station do we have any because I'm supportive of the projects I think we just need to stop moving on these and I I think um as opposed to

just doing these projects pcem I rather have a master plan on what the building projects are um and really just kind of prior prioritize which projects are going to be obviously upfront um in terms and so that this Council can start talking about funding mechanisms because I think it's long overdue um with you know obviously lewison Street um the incinerator so if we're going to if

that's the space we're going to operate let's let's really look at creating a complex over there for DBW um you know maybe the parks department or whoever else needs to be in there um and then the other buildings that we're we're dealing with in terms of the fire department I mean there's a number of stations up there on the uh Capital Improvement plan or have been discussed to be put on the capital Improvement

plan that you know I think some of them require significant Renovations so um whether it's new construction or renovation I I'd like to see something U brought down from the administration so that we can just at least start having those conversations and and dialogue with you know which projects we're going to be dealing with um because if not it's going to get away from us and I I

think you know the um the Armory is a is a good is a good uh you know example of letting that kind of go down and and now we've got a developer who's looking at it but before it gets to to the point where the uh you know the repairs are astronomical um I rather just get ahead of it and and I tell you that probably if we did a $20 million building um you

know a new building for DPW if we if we worked on it four or five years ago it would have been a lot cheaper you're probably going to be looking at 30 $40 million now for a for a project that size just because of the construction cost that we're seeing um so I I just like to get that on the table uh so we can just have some discussion about

which projects we want to fund because I I do agree the storage needs to take place but um before we do that let's just get the master plan yeah he yield thank you councelor there being no further questions I just want to let you know that tent that you referred to there said could be a wedding tent might want to check with the clerk's office because they perform weddings here in City all

they might need to tent at some point in time before we get rid of it next we have item number four is a resolution discussion plans to improve approve city parks and baseball fields motion to lift second motion to lift from tailes made by Council Pereira second by Council proo I think so all in favor

I Council seat six counc per this has I guess been here for quite a while since um it was tabled in March 22 March 22nd to 22 I think that we all need to be cognizant of the fact that there's 10 Park workers 10 laborers that are out there with 29 parks and playgrounds so the only way you're going to improve the parks and get things done is to hire more people that's that's the reality um

and I was at a park board meeting recently and part of the problems that I saw was people were using parks to dump trash um sleeping there doing drugs there needles in the Parks not all the parks but some of the parks and that's why I had asked for cameras because at least the police could check that out um but there's also people playing volleyball ball and they're putting these nets up in different areas well

then why don't we have a volleyball net set up somewhere why don't we have another football field the Titans are always looking to play football they pay to use the field money coming in we don't have a soccer field people always wantan a soccer field we don't have a softball field that's in quality shape that you can get traveling teams why are we not doing work with that I was with

uh Brian Bishop who plays on socca on a softball teams he goes all over the place I said why you know wouldn't you ever come to for River they stay in the hotels they eat our food they they shop here why are we not kids have baseball Le my granddaughter was on a basketball traveling team you should see what they have in other places as far as um different venues like why aren't we doing that and

I don't think with only 10 people in the park department and the amount of money I think councelor kadim said it was what $2,000 per Park in playground on an average MH so what do you expect I mean I just think we got pickle balls now popping up all over the place I guess that's the new in thing there's baseball fields that aren't being used because you can't get coaches nobody wants to coach but if you

can do soccer field are the fields that people are going to use I think that that's what the park department needs to focus on with that I yield thank you thank you councelor councel seat seven councelor propos I'm sorry Council seat one has hand FR councilor Kim then we'll go to you next councelor all right thank you Mr President um you know we we've had this conversation before and I think

it just comes back to you know quality of life and and how do we make for more attractive right so we just had an individual come down talking about the cost of living assciated with the uh you know the South Coast rail um things like that so you know part of the quality of life is the recreational facilities and something that I've been um trying to advocate for because you see a lot at

different levels so it's not just youth right it's adults as well and in order for us to get there I think as you and I have talked about Mr administrator is the uh open space and recreational plan just going through coming up with the master plan of all our Parks um into counselor and seat six point um part of this is that as as a legislative body we've got to recognize that there's additional uh investment

that's needed besides what we just give $2,000 per per Pock isn't enough um but part of that's got to come from the administration letting us know what the man hours are for each park right I think as a collective group we need to really just establish what the benchmark's going to be right and say okay these are the quality of quality level of FS that we want to see for the community for Community purposes

um you look at the Highland basketball um Park that that place is absolutely filled like year rounds right um and it's good to see so now you you start my my daughter's on uh travel soccer you go down to britland park that's another Hidden Gem there's basketball courts there haven't been touched in a long time I think if you can upgrade those basketball cards right but we've got AR official Turf that's there that was

there I want to say back in I don't know 2012 12 13 that was put in so so that membrane already has to be replaced right so we haven't had those conversations about the capital Improvement of of replacing that field and and part of it is is concussion rating too so we've got our youth on there what are we doing to maintain uh the fence overall uh around that area is

is in decent shape it's starting to peel but there's a lot more that can that can be done but I think it's it's a commitment level from the legislative body but a plan coming down from the administration recognizing that to get people to want to live in forer work in forer and stay in forer that we've got to have an outlet right and some of it's got to be free space you go down

president a we did a great job with the basketball and the playground next to Morton but we haven't really kind of invested um in the middle portion of um that park right so the baseball field um and maybe we're doing some work now but you know there's there's not a lot of investment there it's not really necessarily inviting outside of the winter when everybody goes sledding but

the these are the types of things that we need to startop looking at and the investment is going to be a lot right we talk about Kennedy Park with the skating we talk about all these other parks and especially the when we have a lot of neighborhoods um in census tracks where you know they're they're pocket parks and and we've got to pay more attention to that right and I think part of this

before we can even have this conversation is what's the plan what are we doing what's the expectation and are we prepared to put the money aside right so is it through Capital Improvement is it through the revenues that are coming through from uh marijuana licenses the impact fees and sales tax um are we are we going to bond for a different projects are we using CDA money what are

we doing and how do we get there and then from that standpoint once we set where we want the criteria to be and the uh the expectations is what does uh Miss Smith need for Staffing right because I think we can't just invest all this money and ignore the fact that it's going to take Manpower right so I'd be just curious to see how many how what's the man hours to to maintain one part

right what's the man hours to maintain Kennedy Park um Highland Park uh North Park you know and britland park and and how do we get there and I think then part of that is also the equipment right because that's the other piece right so we need to have the right equipment that's that's efficient and effective to to cut the grass and and do whatever we need to do so we can't we can't be you

know Penny foolish and I mean what's what's the saying something pound pound foolish Penny whatever it is thank you Penny wise pound foolish when it when it comes to come some of the stuff right because I think when you look at the equipment the last time we've had a significant update in all the equipment through parks and and uh DBW was just a couple of years ago and I'm I'm sure

some of that equipment being used year round is already ready for his end of life and needs to be uh replaced so I I think there's a lot of conversation that needs to go around this um so I'd just like to request I know there's a lot of planning and documents that go into it but I think sured uh may be some um and I know they get services from us there

there's a there's some uh funding that they get uh from each community so get so many hours I don't know if we can use those hours to to go through for the open space um master plan open space and recreational master plan and come back down before the before the committee U and the council and have those conversations as as to exactly what we want to see and what you you folks have

uh prioritized and made a um a commitment to uh just so that we can start talking about the funding mechanism so is there anything that you you see in the in the near future that that's going to be a significant requirement for you that you need to maintain or well we've as you know over the past years we've had significant monies and significant Park projects take place just for

example the Cathy Assad playground was redone the dearis playground was redone um we now uh at Kennedy Park we did a complete renovation of that ball field with you know fencing and back stops and and new um Dugout areas um the pickleball tennis courts down at the bottom of Kennedy Park that's another project that's ongoing but as um counc kadim stated these are things that we can't just put it there and turn on back

and walk away we have to be able to maintain them and unfortunately as I've come down here multiple times and said we used to have crews in individual Parks we don't have that anymore we don't even have the buildings to provide them that service anymore because we've either the buildings have either been you know demolished or they're just beyond repair and each group used to be

four and five laborers that took care of maybe three or four pels of of land so the Manpower is going to significantly be an issue I mean I understand that when when we have budgets and we have whatever not that the park department is considered um we're almost the luxury we're almost what you don't spend your money on because we have to spend for police for fire for streets for and we

almost get pushed down the line and I understand that to a certain extent but there is a quality of Life issue that does have to be addressed and unfortunately with the situation we've been in has not recently have we poured a lot more money and have I been involved with a lot more improvements and seen a lot more improvements over the last five or or so years absolutely um but the equipment I mean there are

vehicles in my department that are from 2008 there are vehicles that are 2013 um I I think I do agree that maybe the city needs to get a cyclical plan of replacing equipment I have um mowers that we are replacing we've done some replacing but some of those mowers were from 2007 I mean luckily our mechanic is like a magician and pieces things together and makes you know he made a snowplow out of an old tractor

but you know it comes to a point where I've asked for this cabota I was I've become infamous for asking for this cabota and and it's 2022 and we don't have the cabota yet so it's not that we I don't ask I I try to be careful with what I ask for so as not to appear greedy because I know there are other things to be done but I I mean

I think that we we do have um we have taken significant steps in the right direction do we need a plan absolutely I think we do need to go back to not just one location with where the men work out of because I think what happens is if you have those separate locations these individuals can take pride in those three pieces of property or those four pieces of property are what they

maintain and you can hold people accountable a little bit more accountable for how it's maintained plus the highlands I mean we do have as far as the the softball we do have a softball league we do have a softball field but it is monopolized by one league and I can't change that um it's it's an adult league we don't charge fees to our adult leagues which is not something that

other cities and towns do do um we do have the soccer field which is a premier field um at britland Park there is another soccer field at travasos um and I have purchased Nets to be installed there but if we're going to use it as a combination football soccer then you'd really have to have those Nets to be able to be remove moved so it's not that we don't have a plan in place but you

you need you need money so and that's what I and I recognize that and I I think part of it is is I guess I'm cognizant of the fact it's not going to happen overnight right so but to your point we have to start somewhere right and I know we're starting with some of the uh the equipment but we need to have those plans and and I'm not suggesting that we

create plans like a master plan just to on the sit on the shelf and not refer to it we we need to know um as a council what we have going on so that we can we can allocate the monies accordingly right because I I think the problem is is that we get we get so caught up what's in front of us at the moment okay and then we we don't have

the plans to say okay well what about Parks what about um you know the police department what about the fire department what about DBW because it's if it's a fire station then we're just focus on the hyper hyper focus on the fire station if it's um whatever whatever it is is right at the end of the day we from a management standpoint you know you folks I'm not suggesting how to how to manage your department so

if if manage management is management decision is to locate people in different locations and then you feel that's going to be the most efficient way to get people motivated then so be it from my standpoint I need to know what the costs are um and how do we get to a level that we're all happy with and then how much is that going to cost us and how much Manpower do you need for

that and I think when we start talking about you know the amount of Revenue that's being lost I would tell you that there the significant Revenue being lost right so whether it's the softball fields the problem is is that we have essentially One softball field that they'd like to play on right because of the quality so now if you go and and invest money in the other softball fields then you would be able to spread

out you know where the games are going to be playing but then it's also you know how do you get these fields um to be used by multi uh multiple sports right and and not wear down the grass right so we got to talk about fertilization cuz we we do nothing with fertilization we don't talk about the safety of the grounds cuz we just let folks go and play and they could be

ruts and torn ACLs concussions whatever the case may be but so if that's what we're talking about if we're talking about fertilization plans if we're talking about significantly improving the park so that they're playable and you we're going to get to a point where we can charge fees for it then I think we need to have that conversation and I know it's not going to happen you know

two years 5 years from now it's a 10 15 year plan but I want to have those discussions because we've been having this discussion for the last at least six years right about where we're going with that so uh from my standpoint I think it's there's something to be said when you when you see residents you know utilizing uh taxpayers money like you know the Highland Park playing basketball and and you drive by during

the summer and you see all those kids playing basketball and and then you see programs for you know the black top tournaments and things like that where it's it's nice locations and and everybody has the best amenities um at at a public location and I think that's what we need to take pride on pride in and because there are other communities in in the Commonwealth that are that are

doing it they committed to it and I've said this before we've got CPC we don't spend a whole lot of CP uh CPA money um I say CPC because it's Community preservation committee and seeon that I'm I'm referring to but Community preservation act money right for recreation we don't spend any of that money um or I shouldn't say we don't spent any of it but a good majority of that is not coming back to

those projects and quite frankly it's taxpayer money right and I think we should be taking that taxpayer money that's already coming out of the taxes and being applied to some of these recreational uh facilities and identifying what it is but I'd like to personally see I know I'm long-winded but I'd like to personally see maybe potentially um discussion about how do we get to that point where we have an

open space and recreational plan that this Council uh potentially does a a joint meeting again with the the park board just to to start that Dialogue on Where Do We Go From Here what's what do we see far of being from a recreational standpoint in the next 15 to 20 years now how do we get there right and are we all committed because I and I know council's changed I know the uh you know

the park board changes but if you've got a plan and you can kind of refer back to it and we've got input from the community then the buyin is is a lot better than just you know one or two people making this decision I think we'll have that commitment and then that's the only way we change you know your funding of,000 so until that happens then I'm just going to keep

saying that we're only funding each Park $22,000 it's a little more enough just a little not much though but it depends what you're included because I'm taking out your I mean my maintenance your CSO is like half your budget right so you know the CSO charge I'm not even going but just to answer your question about CPA presently we do have Maplewood Park lighting going in with the utilization

of CPA and there's also Father Kelly P which is that softball uh feel lighting with CPA and there is a CPA project that um Mr Lima had put forth for the lower Kennedy Park and my understanding is that um was brought back up to the CPA because it needed additional funding to um plan that out a little bit more so there are three projects presently with CPA yeah and I don't want anybody on the

uh uh CPA committee to to take that as a slate I just I personally don't think that we do a a good enough job of utilizing and leveraging that money for public purposes that truly benefit the public across the board whether it's for historic housing or open space and Recreation I think me personally we need to do a better job I mean uh seun just spent $2 million in um CPA Monies to uh

purchase uh Acres of lands for recreational space we don't need anymore we no but listen they're not making the ones we have they're not making any more land but part part of it is is that you know we're also missing the boat in terms of providing residents pickle ball flag football soccer and all these other um recreational activities that could be quite honestly generating money for us

you know so well they're all outside organizations too that ask for these none of them are run through City organizations or through the parks like they used to but but I'm also I'm okay with that as well because I think it it provides an outlet for our youth right so we can't there's no way that the city is going to be able to create a recreational department that that provides all these so we we need these

out outside agencies to partner with us but I but I think before we can get there and actually make generate Revenue we've got to figure out what the plan is absolutely because we depend on them to help us maintain these facilities so you you really can't start charging when they're doing half the work to maintain some of those properties so it's a little bit difficult it's a catch 22

yeah how you thank you coun I think you were right on pointing I don't think you in Consulting the CPA committee at all I think you you marks right on question I do have is do we have sprinkler systems in the the fields the baseball fields soccer fields uh we do have some sprinkler systems uh some of the sprinkler systems over the years have been damaged by you know in in different

areas either by tents or um other items as such penetrating the sprinkler systems without any um we don't know that they're damaged until you go to use them in the spring if the sprinkler system or the tent is erected in the fall or the winter and the and the sprinkler system shut off we don't even know it's damaged till we go to use it again so we're not sure when the damage

occurred so there are some sprinkler systems some of the leagues have installed them um and there are other sprinkler systems that the city has installed because I will tell you this if you did a football or soccer field and the children are running on it and then you're using it back and forth and you don't sprinkle that water the next day that grass will never keep up with the uh the cleats being run up and down

so you'll basically destroy any grass you put there especially if you're not fertilizing it cutting it at the right height and it's not getting any water and all it takes is five or six days in a row of practice practice practice without any water and that grass will disappear you'll be playing on mud so that's something that we have to be very careful with um as someone who has seen

many fields in my life and coached many different sports it's the maintenance of is very highly and other communities do a pretty good job of maintaining it and water is essential to keeping grass alive and fertilizing is essential to make it come the right way we do it in our homes you know andone has got a good lawn they're fertilizing and kind of grass and watering it all the time if

and we're not even walking on it that much but if you have a field out there a soccer field and a football field that's being constantly used by a bunch of people and you're not giving any water that's just a a disaster waiting to happen culture seat seven cult poo yeah so I'll Echo what council Kadeem said about a plan and and I think I watch it every summer and I look out my side my

office the splash pad is busy over at tasos but the rest of it just kind of there it's got beautiful grass cuz it's not being used it's very quiet um I would I would Echo what he said and having a plan because I think at the end of the day it's investment in our youth and and the other thing too I look over down the street over at Lafayette Park

and I had said to City Min aen yesterday or the day before that little house in the back corner there is completely with graffiti and it's it's going to it's going to end up just like the building at Kennedy park that is in complete disarray you know these are the things that we need to prioritize and it's no slight to you Nancy you're right you don't have enough people to do it so at

some point we have to advocate for more and again it's quality of life life issue and if you're going if you're driving down the city and you see that Lafayette Park you're like I don't want to go there you know but then you have other places like travasos that's underutilized it's a beautiful beautiful piece of grass that could be utiliz for so much more um and I think we could

Levy that to really be an advantage to all of us so I'll Leto what he said you know a plan would be fabulous and really a a long forward plan not only including how we use the space how can we put it out there but also the manpower to back it up I thank you thank you just just to answer that question travasos was permitted out yeah but we don't know

it's permitted out on certain nights of the week but we don't know when they go or don't go because they take a seasonal permit so sometimes they don't end up going and as far as the lafette building I did speak to the sheriff um Naomi from the sheriff's office and have offered up that building for her training to um the graffiti machine teach the inmates to use the graffiti machine I'm

like anytime we have a perfect spot for you to train so I have had conversations with her about that particular building it's funny that you would mention that one because it was the me building that I did have a it seems like that one really took really took a hit over the past you know the league the league there is not really operational as much there's less people around it um so it's

it's kind of Fallen to disarray let me just ask a followup question if I could regarding the permitting at travasos is that is that the football we're referring to there was a football and there were a couple of uh Youth Soccer groups that used it on I want to say Mondays and Fridays um but no access to lights they did have the football group used lights but not the soccer groups the soccer group did not just

because they didn't request just because that was the times they requested okay that makes sense and it's a little more difficult as as we've talked about before our um Lighting systems are a little bit um archaic and can't we can put them on timers but we can't generate just certain days it would be seven days a week or if it's raining and someone's not going there they would go on just the same so it's a little

bit difficult yeah and I think about the lighting too it's when you look at some of the parks and I just use travas I literally spend all my days there you know I look out the window I see it there's not enough Lighting in general in that Park so you you know you go through the splash pad that's pretty well lit and then you just go into this darkness of nothing um and there's

really no lighting around that track to keep trouble away from that area um you know it's it's a dead end I know it's dead end Street there's not much going on down there and you can find yourself in a problem if you're looking for it so I think you know we're talking about that plan I hope that would be something to be considered as well I yield thank you thank you Council Council C Council

Washington thank you council president I a point of information first $2,000 in a park that's what each Park is allocated can you just some someone just give me information on that what it a year each Park like what is that use for I don't I don't know if it was 2000 but if you take if you take the uh CSO charge out if you take the electric and then some of the uh equipment maintenance how much

actually goes into the the parks it's about 2,000 that's horrific I think so that's horrible so I I guess listen Maybe it's 3,000 or 4,000 or 5,000 it's awful I mean I just we're not talking about 30 40 $50,000 into parks and that we can have them get back to us as to what the best guest scenario would be as to what we actually spend in the Box we

do have an awful lot of box that's a lot but that that that number is pretty pretty shocking to me um so my next question would be what is considered fully Staffing for you so you is do you have 10 staff members for all these Parks what do you consider fully staffed and was it ever fully staffed well we used to have four 40 plus workers at one point but I'm I'm

going some years back um but at this point I my full staff would be 13 13 and then how many how many parks do you have 29 29 Parks 13 staff members and do you we do median strips all like Brighton Avenue easn Avenue Plymouth Avenue we also cut all of that as well as the greens some of the rotaries like if you see um Bradberry green or um all yeah all those well you can't

afford to give you more than $2,000 because you can't have to do the work um all right so 40 so 40 would at some point well we used to we used to have a compliment of laborers we used to have a compliment of um comfort station attendance you know we used to have seasonal workers that the seasonal worker now is completely different because they can't work more than 19 hours a week so before our seasonal

workers were full-time workers to have a seasonal worker for 19 hours a week they're working two and a half days um and the bottom line is the laborers in the park Department right now start at $16 an hour so I have a very difficult time maintaining a labor force yeah the maximum pay is 16 and my senior people are 19 okay um and then my next question is um maybe the city administrator can answer

it um why aren't we charging the adult leagues so if we're charging the youth league we don't we don't charge anybody we don't charge anyone is that a new thing is that just always been forever why is that a I just I'm curious who knows why if you don't it's okay I'm just it's just so I mean I I think you can there's a lot of there's probably a lot of

reasons one might offer why we don't do that um I think what it really comes down to is that there's a tremendous amount of pressure from the folks that run those leagues for there not to be a charge um you know frankly you you can take that explanation and put it with a lot of things in the city that we either can charge for or don't do um and um the change sometimes you know

requires uh significant uh C change I think both you know from the administration and the council and and a lot of folks working together to say you know what we're going to generate revenue from a resource that we have that's a good resource that that is worth charging for um and uh I think that's certainly something we should be talking about um I will say that just in the context of

this larger conversation um between CDA and arpa uh there have been just millions of dollars put into the parks recently um now that doesn't mean there's a plan right so so I I just I want us to acknowledge because I I think it it probably you know it's an easy narrative to say oh no one's doing anything and we got to do something but that's not really what's happening what's happening is that there's a lot

of individual amazing projects that are being done and those need to be followed up with a comprehensive clear plan as to where we go from here in order to make sure that the improvements that have been done don't go to waste yeah that's kind of what my takeaway was from my colleague in C1 that you have you're doing these great projects but there's what's the sustainability plan to keep

them in motion what's the infrastructure to keep that continuing so um so I support my colleague in seat one I I guess I'm just kind of Blown Away by some of this information I didn't know I think that that is absolutely I think it's um essential to the the quality of life in the city I mean I know you said well you know other things go in other places but I was just in Boston this

weekend in the middle of like highrise is like you'll drive up you'll like in this Clos air and then there this beautiful soccer field like and people playing on the soccerfield in the middle of like you know uh this Urban Jungle so I mean I think that we could do that here I guess the plan is but some of these figures are kind of alarming to me I'm you know just that's why I'm asking

questions but um you answered some of them I guess I can follow up on them and with that I yield council president thank you councelor um before I call um Nancy yes don't a lot of the league people do a lot of volunteering stuff themselves and get out there clay and they contribute as well that's why they're not paying they pay for the line save us a lot of money by doing a lot of

improvements and that is another reason why it's been very difficult for us to charge years back um we didn't charge but as I said we had individual workers in each Park and that particular gentleman would before he left they used to work from I think 7:30 to 4:30 so now their hours are from 7 to 3: um and now they leave at 3: but when they worked at that time that particular gentleman that

worked in that Park would repare that field he'd line that field the grass would be cut everything would be done inhouse we no longer have that we depend a lot on the leagues like Maplewood the leagues come up so that's part of why we're not charging them sense yeah there are a lot of leagues that do but there are uh we could designate certain areas of um to be used by multiple groups that

perhaps we could lease out I mean I know when when this Al talked about the high school fields and and turfing the high school Fields it was because they would be able to rent these fields out to these travel baseball teams and and and that type of thing we don't have that same is there a policy and procedure in place for like if you rent out this if you're using this field you have to do a

b c and d to maintain it you don't pay us you know $100 to use it but this is what you do so everybody's equally sharing the no no and and that would be different because say take an example we have a turf field at britland Park and we wouldn't have a Turf baseball field so the baseball people would have to do something there every single day to maintain that field while the turf field

would relatively maintain itself for a period of time like we go in and we groom that field but we don't have to groom that Turf like we need to cut grass so it's each location is different kind of yes unique in its own way yes you I thank you counc C2 counc yeah um the first thing I'd like to say if you want to hear a staggering number is the park department is expected to

contribute to Water and Sewer CSO charge $ 252,000 a year I think every Department I I've never understood quote quite how or why um but anyways so there's a staggering number 252 a qu quart of a million dollars it's not an easy task um the only thing I want to make one comment and I thought about it when you said you used to have a staff at each Park um as we get bigger and

better and we make these these um Investments which I agree with pretty much what everybody what everyone has said we also have to start considering the vandalism and safety issues also back then when you had those individuals we also had Park police yes um and I think that's an important component as well now is you know are we going to consider bringing back Park releas probably wouldn't be a bad idea if we're

going to um move down this road and and try to uh you know as a quality of life issue and get more people out there that's basically all I have to say thank you than you CC1 CC you have another follow yeah thank you so I just want to get the numbers out and someone to my colleague can see too uh so the total expense for Parks is 59,2

so right off the bat 22 at least just under half is going to cso so you got to remove that right because it's not going to the maintain the parks we've got electricity for 85,000 we've got heat for 10,000 um so we finally get to buildings grounds repair maintenance 55,000 so I'll include that yeah uh vehicle repair maintenance not going towards uh the parks I mean obviously you need the

vehic but I don't count that as an expense for the parks other repairs and maintenance 25,000 so I'll include that another 25,000 for other purchase services not sure what that is but we'll assume it's going to the parks and then you start getting to everything else which is um you know tools uh uh grounds keeper supplies 2500 so when it's all said and done there's $107,000 that's uh appropriated for

Parks so how many parks 299 wow divided by 29 I was off $3,700 per Pock well that's because last year Mone the good news of this is that 519 is up from 424 so that's probably where you got your figure all for the CSO so I wasn't I wasn't far off the total was 424 and two uh 22 and it's 519 and 23 so you you may have been correct in your last figure

all right I thank you C W no further question a motion to oh CC seat Council seat seven Council propos yeah real quick through Council and seat one so can we get this ball rolling what what what can we do here to get this ball rolling uh you can Advocate the mayor's office and have them submit a couple of plans the first open space and recreational plan and also a building an

infrastructure plan so that we can talk about our building so I'll support that letter too I'll sign off on it so Mr Reen can we can we start this conversation about getting a plan put together for our parks so there was a plan I think 2015 was that what was the last I think our open space plan is good to till 23 or 24 was that or is that a Citywide

open space plan right no it's City when it was done yeah you got me I think 2015 okay um so even though that plan is technically good for a couple more years we're not going to rest on that um my first step is is now that we have at least an acting planner um somebody who is is sort of working through warning that role is not necessarily being paid or assigned as a planner specifically

but is trying out for the role uh Mr pirano uh if some of you saw the article the other day um we've been without anybody in that role and Mr agar has essentially been filling that role for months uh and so even though Mr prano is not a planner by training he is in the midst of getting his uh Masters in public administration does have some of that um uh academic uh credential um and

so that's something I've spoken with him about now that he's in that position is as one of the first big projects I want him to undertake is to identify to me what needs to be done in order to flesh out the plan we already have make it current incorporate what we've already done and really look at our cost per Park and how we can begin to reallocate resources so um the answer to your

question is yes um it's at least in the infant stages of happening um you know I wanted to give him you know a few weeks to kind of get into the the role before he jumped in but we haven't really had a planner for a while uh unfortunately the planner who was there um moved on uh to a different community and um it's sort of hamstrung us a little bit no excuses

just the reality of of working in a city um and in municipal government but that's you that's a direction we're we're going in in terms of you know a a bigger master plan for open space and Facilities I think that actually goes significantly beyond the plan that we have so that so we have a plan around Parks but I think what uh councelor Kadeem is talking about is something much more comprehensive um that really

tries to create um you know relationships between a number of ongoing departments and plans and how we intend to grow and uh keep those things healthy as they grow uh and that's something I feel very strongly about that we have to do and I think very soon we're going to actually have the people in place to do that uh and that's something in my nine months in the job we haven't had Fair two requests one can

we can we get can I get a copy of that plan from 2015 sure that'd be that' be good to look at that's fine PDF is fine um the second question is to Nancy would it be fruitful maybe in the next few months to have a joint meeting of the park board and the city council to really begin to discuss what are some immediate things that because again you're the boots on the ground you you

know what the what the direct needs are can we have that meeting I I believe this has been tossed around a few times and I'm sure I think that the park board with all respect to the council feel feels like you have a much busier schedule with subcommittee meeting so if this Council presents a date and time that they want to meet with the PAC board I am certain that the parac board

would be open to that great we'll do that Council kadim you want to you and I want to head that to get that scheduled sure excellent thank you how y thank you councelor and Council propos I also like that subliminal can we get the ball rolling talking about the parks no pun intended I like that thank you there being no further questions I'll a motion motion to adj finance Mr

presid motion to refer for and I Mo refer first counc motion to ref for made by Council Dion is second I'll second that we referring it to full body I or do you want to table this it's up to the council no I think we should probably table it instead just till we have that other meeting or you want to refer to a committee on economic development what's your chair what's your thing

answer I will I'll do that can I motion to refer enal Affairs Health Services yeah I want to refer the the resolution about the parks to the committee on Human Services housing Youth and Elder Affairs on that with you yeah that's a motion to refer has been made by Council proposer is there a second on a motion second second by Council motion all in favor I I any opposed motion carries motion to J Finance motion J

Finance May Council second kby second by Council Washington all in favor I finances adjourned regular city council meeting will begin in 5 minutes okay Council please come to order clerk will call the RO Council kadim here Dion here kby here labery here feler here Pereira here Roso here Washington here president CRA here will everyone in the council chair please rise for a moment

of Silent prayer can we think about Al Lima and everything he did for Fall River we

can Will everyone please remain standing for salute to the flag I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all pursuant to the open meeing law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit this meeting through any medium

attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible and before I call on the clerk I just want to acknowledge for the first time here in the council chambers Lauren valkor is here filling in for Colleen just want to welcome everyone remembers Ron vcot correct she's the daughter of Ron vort I

think Carol's car used to be in his chamber as well right just kidding Carol cler for many many years La daughter of Carol and Ron coun seat six uh c c 5 coun P well I had the pleasure of working with her today yep and she used dried out a pen on the notes that she had to take today very well she must have four pages of notes so she's doing a good job she's a keeper

she's doing a great job when I talk to her she uses invisible Inc H so we welcome Lauren welcome Madam clerk the first item before you is the mayor's communication uh requesting the confirmation of appointments to the special Charter Review Committee we have John R Mitchell Tracy almea Katherine movich Paul masado Esquire and Michelle Mimi larav motion to approve second motion to approve made by Council Kilby

second by Council Perera roll

on confirmation council is kadim no Dion no Kilby yes La liberty no fer uh no Pereira yes Roso yes Washington yes president cra yes the motion carries motion carries yes okay have the mayor's communication and the financial order that the sum of 1 mil $370,000 be and the same is hereby transferred to the school appropriation from the tax levy fy2 3 motion to adopt motion adop by councel

Dion second by Council the propos on do we need a roll call no all in favor I any opposed motion carries item three is the mayor's Communication in uh another Financial order that the sum of $180,000 be and the same is hereby transferred to law expenses from stabilization fund motion to adopt motion adopt made by Council Pera is there a second second second by Council Kilby all in favor any opposed motion

carries item number four is the mayor's Communication in an order appropriating 22000 excuse me $225 as follows $1995 for CPA historic resources preservation projects and $210 for CPA community housing motion to adop motion to adopt and made by counc PR second by Council Kelby all in favor any opposed motion carries item number five is the mayor's communication and Orders of taking for

the MBTA South Coast rail program off-site traffic mitigation improvements at the intersection of President AV in North Main Street motion to approve as Amendment motion to adopt as amendment to made by Council Kilby is there a second second second by Council Washington on the motion counc c 2 Council vice president Diana um two weeks we're going to have an election November 8th we don't know how the citizens of

this city are going to vote if it's going to be a yes or if it's going to be a no vote um if it were to be a no vote this would be a moot point and I don't know which way it's going to go and I'm not advocating one way or another it's not my job to influence people but I think we should be waiting to see how how the people

vote before we worry about amending or taking any land for the project I don't think two weeks um is going to make a huge difference in terms of getting it done as part of the project so I don't want to stifle conversation if other people want to speak but I will be making a motion to table c one C could I just uh make a motion wave the rules just so that the

administration come down quick question motion has been made by Council to wave the rules second second by councelor propos I believe seconded First all in favor I I motion has been made come on now please can we try to keep it brief please s a waiting notes so just in term of the taking so we we've already approved the taking so you're looking for an amendment on the taking yes so I'm I'm assuming it's not

ENT domain everybody has agreed to the taking there are no issues that's correct so just I guess for my own identification if if the vote fails um in two weeks or whatever time frame it is are you still moving forward with the potential for traffic Improvement down there I don't know the answer to that I know there's been plenty of discussion as to what happens if the vote fails on a number of fronts

um I have not been privy to a conversation about what we may or may so I guess let me let me ask the question a different way so if regardless if it passes or fails if there's any type of traffic improvements down there you would need the takings I'm assuming it yes good point okay that's that's that's a first statement okay all right I yield than you councel thank you SE

motion has been made and seconded there was a motion to table that was that second I didn't I said I would be making we would have now make the motion to table we wouldn't have a discussion unless there was a motion and it was seconded and she didn't make the motion to table there's no discussion on a motion to table Oh I thought she made a motion to table no I'm making it

now motion table takes presid roll call on a motion is there a second is that a motion to table was there a second Mr President there's not a second yet motion to table hearing no second does not carry fine there was a motion to adopt in second motion to adopt has been made in seconded by Council K seconded believe it was Council Washington on the motion all in favor I any opposed seat to opposed

quick item number six is the FY 23 quarter 1 budget report motion for Finance motion further Finance Council kadim second by Council Dion all in favor I any opposed motion carries item seven is a communication from the mayor and an order to accept grants in the amount of the first one $267,800 that is the mass eoea to purchase a 7.10 acre Farmland portion of adarand De Farm adjacent to the North wupa Pond and the

second in the amount of $65,000 that's the mass eops grant for the F frpd to purchase nine new speed radar signs 30 bicycle helmets and reflective Vans and to compensate officers to conduct traffic and enforcement during the yearly six mrss campaigns motion to adopt motion to adopt as Washington second by Council perea all in favor I any opposed motion carries item number eight is the mayor's

Communication in an order accepting a donation of two paintings for the FL of the public library from artist Sheila Ola motion to accept donation motion to accept the donation is made by Council per second by Council Kilby on the motion Council seat six Council PR I was at the um Heritage State Park when uh Sheila ala presented all of the paintings they're still hung up there and two of the paintings that will be

hung at the library but it is amazing the work that she's done so I would request that we also send a letter of thanks uh to her we can do that coun with that I yeld thank you thank you councelor motion has been made and seconded all in favor I any opposed you guys have it motion carries whereas the South Coast Rail Project has been discussed extensively for over 30 years and whereas this very

important project to increase public transportation is finally becoming a reality for the city of Fall River and whereas access to the commuter rail will increase economic growth and stability in the city now therefore be resolve that the city council supports this worthwhile project and encourages the residents to vote in favor of this city being added to the Massachusetts Bay Transportation

Authority is there a motion motion to adopt motion to adopt the resolution Council kby second second second by Council Washington on the motion counc C2 Council Dion yeah um I can't support this resolution um I don't think this council is in the business of telling people how votes or trying to sway votes um when you go in a voting booth it's supposed to be a private matter and I don't think

that we have the right to tell people how they should vote with that I yield thank you C this resolution in my opinion doesn't tell anyone what to do it just a reflection of this what this council is want to do encourage the residents to vote in favor of this city being added to the MBTA that that statement right there is saying that we want the voters to say yes so again it

has nothing to do with what side I'm on because I have not voiced my opinion to anyone um of what side I'm on it's I don't think I have the right to try to tell the voters how to vote whether it be in the affirmative or the negative with that I yield thank you coun coun C3 coun kobby yes well I usually whoever sponsors the resolution gets call first but that's perfectly fine I apologize

because I apologize I didn't see hand up that's fine that's my fault um so um I'll brief on it okay uh this is we've been talking about quality of life issues a lot tonight and this is a quality life issue um this issue has been talked about for over 30 years government Governor weld uh came down and uh gave a guarantee that it was going to happen in like 5 to 10 years if everyone recalls

so um there's a large State investment um our Waterfront our culture um make as Council one said make our city a more inviting place it's it's just um a no-brain not to support this in all due respect to councilman seat too I do have a lot of respect for her um and so the only arguments I'm hearing against this resolu solution that is we don't want to urge people how to vote we

have very intelligent voters okay and it's our job when we're as elected to advocate for good things that H are going to happen in this community so I think it's totally proper and fitting uh to support you know at least going on record saying this is something that that uh that the city council wants to see happen you vote how you want to vote if you don't and the two gentleman who spoke to

Citizens input I respect their opinions as well um although I disagree with them so um I strongly urge us to please vote for this it'll send a message to our community that uh the nine City councils that they vote for and elect are supporting this worthwhile project and uh it's long overdue we really need uh the the enhancement of Transportation Transportation has been the key for so

many things for thousands of years I don't want to get too deep in history but all roads lead to Rome um Intercontinental Railroad it it just Spirits more positive things in your community so I've said enough um and um I'd appreciate it if my colleagues can support this thank you thank you you you councel yes I do counc c to council Diana yeah I just want to make it clear

your opinion I'm fine with with uh you expressing that you think it's a good project I'm fine with um yes you are very much entitled to your opinion my my um objection was encouraging the residents to vote in a specific way whe whether you were were encouraging them to vote Yes or no it doesn't matter how you're encouraging the vote the fact is you're encouraging them to vote amend amend it so that's my

that language out that's my my issue take that language out M we're we're not going to have any discussion going back and forth between colleagues she has the floor do you yeld councelor I yield thank you thank you councelor councel seat eight councilor Washington a friendly Amendment did that I will yield to councelor in SE six first and then I'll councel see one has a hand hand first fine I'll wait you

yield councelor I yield coun seat one Council C thank you I was I was just going to ask my my colleague in seat three if he'd be willing to amend it and I I think the amendment that's it um should read that be it resolved that the city council recommends support of this worthwhile project uh for the city being added to the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority and the reason you know I don't disagree I think the

word vote shouldn't be in there so if we make a recommendation uh for the support that's just telling the public that we do that it's not uncommon if you go to any other town that has Town meetings uh typically you'll have a bard of Selectmen in the finance committee that will give their recommendation on warrant articles that range from a host of of things um ballot questions budgets

uh planning changes things of that nature so I think the language recommend support I think that's something is a little bit more pable is that in the form of a motion counsel uh as long as yes colle totally agree with it I actually dictated this um to Colleen um in 5 10 minutes and um if that term is offensive to anybody doesn't think it's appropriate may not offensive doesn't think it's appropriate then of course

well I think the council's on the right on the right track so so who wants to make the motion it doesn't I I'll make the motion that we amend the resolution that second States be resolved that the city council recommend support of this worthwhile project that the city being added to the Massachusetts Bay thought Transportation Authority thank you is that good enough do you get that okay motion has been made in second

motion made by Council kadim seconded by Council Pereira any discussion Council Washington did you want to speak now or yours sec I just wanted to am I speaking on the motion the amended motion you can speak on whatever you I just I just want to support my colleague in C3 I think that if if we don't move forward you move backwards and I and I support this wholeheartedly I think this

is is a great representation I support the language change in it I think that um you're right transportation is the key for thousands of years and um moving forward just think of the jobs this will bring in people in that have transportation issues can now take the train to Boston get better jobs paid for better Apartments better housing I mean I'm just very excited about this I support it thank you for putting it

through and I support the amendment I yield thank you council president thank you thank you no further discussion no motion to adopt as amended is there a motion to adopt as amended I'll entertain a motion to adopt as CC seat one is there a second second second by counc seat 4 all in favor I I any opposed see two opposed counc seat I'd have to throw this out there I had the opportunity to

go with uh a former mayor and another person we went up and had lunch with Governor dakus former governor dakus and when he talked about Linda finally for Rivers getting that train what I don't understand is why isn't a high-speed train they have highspeed trains all over Europe why can't we do high speeed so I have promised him that when the train comes I will pick him up in Brook line he wants

to be on the inaugural run the first time so he's excited about the train that I yield just wanted to share it with you it's funny you should mention that but I ran to the former Governor Dukakis about five or six years ago and he said the same exact thing say there's no reason that they can't be high speed if you want it to be so anyway they know more than we do

motion has been made and seconded and has all in favor I any opposed motion carries oh no she to oppos I'm sorry I apologize okay we're good Madam CL item number 10 is an order granting permission to Massachusetts electric company in Verizon New England for six new joint pole locations and two joint pole relocations on Bedford and Seabury streets to ad motion to adopt to adopt has been made by Council Dion second by

Council reposo all in favor any opposed motion carries item 11 is in order granting permission to Massachusetts electric company for the installation of approximately 128 ft of underground conduit on Bedford Street motion to adopt motion to adopt is made by Council Dion is there a second second second second by Council Kilby all in favor I any opposed motion carries item number 12 are auto body shop license

renewals motion to approve motion to adopt the counc proposal second by Council Pereira all in favor I any opposed motion carries item 13 on applications for the renewal of voo repair shop licenses motion to adop Second motion to adopt it me the council reposo second by Council Pera all in favor I I any opposed motion carries item 14 is the um City council's appointments to the special uh Charter

Review Committee motion to ad we have attorney Reena Brown Timothy Campos Daniel robelot and councelor Laura Jee Washington motion made by Council PR is that second second second by Council Kilby on the motion Council C5 Council pel yeah I'm already people on this committee nine nine nine nine the mayor appoints five and the councils four all right I should have voted for the other

one but I'm going to support this one thank you thank you Council Council C7 Council propo yeah the only the only thing that I have an issue with this is that it provides no information of the background of these individuals obviously I know my colleagues sitting next to me um but very much like the earlier order from the mayor it gave some additional information about what these individuals what their knowledge

background is we go back to looking at what my colleague and C2 said two weeks ago I'm I'm interested in where these people are involved and where they're from a little more information other than just a list of names so I if possible I would like that before I give a good vote on it Danny R behind well and and Danny as well but yeah um I apologize c um I don't know why I

haven't got the information yet the resumes up but I just had to submit it and I did without the information you want me to provide it for you later or you want don't want to vote on it prior to that it's up it's your call so like I like I said to the mayor few weeks back I didn't support it the original one before because there was no information I asked for that information it was it

was given so would it be possible to get that information before I before I make a vote on this just say what they are you know who they are well attorney Reena Brown is an attorney I don't know if you know Reena Brown I don't know point of clarification excuse me point of clarification um my understanding that the resumés are available in the office and I it was an opinion from maybe I'm

not going to wave the rules or anything but um the resumés cannot be in the packet for some reason yeah um was that was a recommendation by rsey or whatever so U the resumes are always available for us correct correct to take a trip here Timothy C was on the election on the election board and um yeah it's someone that I've known my whole life yeah and if I life if I may I mean the

reality is is that these Cho these picks were provided by the president not by by the mayor's office so that's why I went to the mayor's office and asked for that information and they don't have have it so that's why I'm I'm requesting through the president I'll get to you if you're not comfortable with the vote prior you can correct make a motion to hold it off I don't know if it's urgent that we do

it this meeting or not but I don't see the urgency it's up to you there's a motion to adopt motion to there a second wasn't there there was a second okay roll call roll call Mam CL it wasn't left out deliberately just so you'll know C no I I understand I apologize for that it was just I'm just again looking for more information about how you know we're looking at this group

and and I I do truly think that this process is important because again it's going to lead to that what happens in the next five years um but again for my own well-being I want to know that the people who were assigning to this have the qualifications to do so Point well intended coun thank you cck roll call on the motion to confirm council is Kadee no Dion no Kilby yes La

liberty no peler yes Pereira yes Roso no Washington yes president kamarra yes motion carries motion carries and I'll get you that information councelor thank you sir if you want to see I B for you and anyone else that wants to look at their provocations M CL we have claims ref Corporation second motion ref to Corporation C counc per second by proposal quick question Mr President on

the motion yeah justos as I was reading through the claims one of the ones that caught my eye was the situation where an individual was in a wheelchair and tripped I just want to make sure that was rectified that particular issue if if we could find out through you you can call the law department and find out you going to we're going to refer this to Corporation Council no I'm

just can we get an update and making sure that was just handled taken care of as far as the particular um what seemed seems to be an issue with the T missing tile the floor the sidewalk whatever it may be yeah we can get you an update with that thank you I problem motion F has made and seconded all in favor I item 16 are minutes of the planning board meeting adop approve planning board

motion to adopt have made by counc second by CC proposal on favor I I any opposed motion carries we have the Attorney General's response to an open meeting law complaint filed by Patrick Higgins uh back in April motion accept place on F on F motion accepted place on files May by Council kadim second Council Pereira all in favor I all opposed motion carries item 18 is an open meeting law

complaint filed by Patrick Higgins regarding September 16th meeting motion motion for to Corporation Council second Corporation counc made and seconded who made the motion councelor Dion and seconded by councelor reposo all in favor I on a motion council1 counc K thank you uh Mr President just through you could I guess in the future can we just have any open meeting law complaints just read um sure we can do

it we no no just yeah we had gotten a well I say we seeon had gotten a legal opinion saying that before we refer any of the uh open meeting law complaints that the body has to actually read it so now we're in the process of actually reading the complaint so I'm trying to just avoid any potential future open being block complaints so click you want to do that today or

it's up to you you don't mind no I don't

mind the Falla city council violated the open meeting law as follows the city clerk Allison bushard illegally called the and posted a special meeting of the fla city council at 4:01 p.m. on September 15th to be held at 6:15 having no lawful authority to do so number two at 6:15 city clerk Allison buha called the special meeting of the city council to order at 6:15 and conducted the meeting as chair with no lawful

authority to do so Charter of the city of full river section 2-6 only allows for special meetings of the city council to be called by the president or the call of any three or more members city code of the city of Fall River section 2-55 allows for a special meeting of this Council to be called by the mayor or the president of the city council with at 24 hours notice this is an

unlawful ordinance as it is in conflict with open meeting law and the City Council subcommittee on ordinances should either amend this ordinance to comply with the open meeting law or be prepared to defend this in a civil action to be filed in Superior Court section 18 of the open meeting law defines emergency as a sudden generally unexpected occurrence or set of circumstances depending immediate action

excuse me demanding immediate action on September 13th city council president Pam liy resigned her position as president of the city council it is my opinion that vice president Michelle Dion automatically promotes to the presidency it is the position of the city of Fall River that this is not accurate Black's Law Dictionary defines vice president as one in officer selected in advance to fill the

presidency if the president dies resigns is removed from office or cannot or will not serve number two a corporate officer of midlevel to high rank Plex Law Dictionary Abridged 9th Edition 2010 this is an intentional violation of the open meeting law in order to prevent president Dion from becoming president at the September 16th 2022 meeting the vote was five for Joseph CRA and four

for Michelle Dion proving that five would do anything legal or not to prevent the legitimate vice president fulfilling fulfilling the presidency thank you m motion refer motion refer I think we already did it but we can do it again just to be on the safe side before we get to it again Council seat one Council G made a motion to refer to Corporation Council is there a second second second

by Council Pereira all in favor I any opposed motion carries Mak sense item 19 are minutes of the city council public hearing held on October 11 motion approve made by councel seat one second by councel seats Council seat one Council cem seconded by Council and C Council Washington all in favor I I any opposed motion carries item 20 are minutes of the committee on finance held on October 11th motion to approve second

motion approve has been made by counc c 2 counc Dian seconded by counc C1 Council kadim all in favor I I any opposed motion carries item 22 are minutes of the regular meeting of the city council held on October 11th mtion to approve approve motion to approve as made Council seat one Council gem second by Council seat two Council Dion all in favor I I any opposed motion car and lastly we have the committee on finance

at a meeting held on October 25th voted unanimously to recommend that the accompanying resolution be referred to the committee on H Human Services housing Youth and Elder Affairs this was the resolution to discuss plans to improve city parks and baseball fields motion so made to adopt CC proposal and second by Council Pereira all in favor I I any oppos motion carries Council will take a

two-minute recess to get some Signature Sign

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city council will reconvene all I need is an entertain a motion to agour motion to adjourn motion toour by counc one ccem second by c 2 counc opposer all in favor I is there anyone opposed okay motion carries good night everybody good job bye