10.4.2023 Park Board

so cute all right regular meeting of the park board Commissioners agenda in order of business Wednesday October 4th 2023 this meeting will be held at the council hearing room beginning at 5:30 p.m. C input must be submitted by email to the parkboard at forer ma.org by noon 10423 meeting will be available for viewing at for of government TV and Fred tv. us or channel 18 uh roll call of

Commissioners Amber Burns alen rgo Joseph the Sila commissioner FIS is running behind and commissioner McDonald would not be hereit this uh month reading of the open meeting law Pursuit into the open meeting law any person may make an audio video recording of this public meeting or may transmit this meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are

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permissible citizen input none no citizen input acceptance of minutes from September 6 2023 regular Park board meeting motion to accept motion is accept by commissioner rioo have a second second by commissioner Burns all in favor say I I I item one uh new business uh item a update from laon Square Community preservation project Mr pirano assistant planner they have evening it's good to be here again back

for other things other than the cemetery um so Jerry lton Plaza is located uh downtown um on South Main Street near the Cherry Cherry and Web building in anaan Street um it's kind of been uh in its same condition since it was was installed in the' 70s as far as our research can tell um and the plan is to use arpa funding to rehabilitate the space into a flex

space um as you are aware we remove the trees using tree division money at the end of last fiscal year uh because there was some money left over to do that to save some money on the project um and it has gone out to bid two times now um so that's why there's some delay in getting the project project underway the first time we bid the project there were no respondents the second time we had one

response at over $580,000 and our Architects and Consulting Engineers um estimated the project to cost about $250,000 so more than double the cost so we' rejected the bid um we have since looked at other options including bidding it out over the winter hoping a contractor would pick it up as a quick project to do in the spring um before they get you know underway with their bigger construction projects

um but we are worried that we're going to see the same type of problems um and this is not unique to this project or the city of Fall River um there's a lot of money out there from arpa from other Federal programs where construction companies are kind of cherry-picking the projects they want throwing in kind of un balanced bids or unreasonable bids for projects that they're not very

interested in but if someone will pay them an exorbitant amount of money to do a 3,000 ft Plaza they'd Do It um so one of the things we're looking at now is general contracting the project ourself uh using some of our staff internally um on overtime uh funded through arpa to do some of the work and then doing smaller contracts to smaller contractors to do some of the work that we can't handle

inhouse um with that said there's no concrete plan and how that's going to work yet but we are looking at that possibility to make sure that the project comes in um at least at budget if not under budget um the plans I sent you detail the existing conditions of the plaza as well as uh the intended use um so the intention here is to make a flex space that is um sort of minimalistic in its

fixtures um pave space some new trees and new plants plantings along the building that would be low maintenance mainly low growing shrubs and flowers um and then be able to use a space for any number of different applications um in the planting beds there can be some spaces to put some sculptures if there's local artists who' like to display art um we're working with the owners of

the cherry and cherry and Web building um to PO potentially store some uh p Furniture so if there was a community event or a restaurant or a food truck that wanted to set up there for an evening there'd be some dining Furniture um and there's also plans to install a small stage in the corner of the plaza along the building an electrical hookup so that way uh there could be uh small

musical performances or community events um Outdoors um so that's the intention uh it also helps connect the Pearl Street Parking Garage and parking kind of along that part of downtown to the main uh Central business district so we're hopeful that it can bring some new life to downtown I'm happy to answer any questions you might have are we planning on uh doing anything with the monument

yes the plans call for the monument to be remounted on a new piece of granite in the central planting bed uh right along Main Street and then also engraving the granite curbing the reveal on the uh planting bed with the uh Jerry lawn Plaza name so it become a little bit more prominent than uh what it's on right now I have a question is that permanent picnic tables you're putting there no no permanent fixtures okay

because we had a lot of issues with permanent benches permanent no permanent benches no permanent picnic tables uh again the plan is to have it as a flexible space so it can be used for a number of different events and and use Furniture that's movable and storable elsewhere and the total CPC money is what uh it's it's ARA funding actually and it was funded at $300,000 about 30 to 50 this originally

CPC they were going to go to CPC but I don't think they ever got it I don't think they ever went to I'm not sure this was an inherited project it's contract through arpa the former uh planner Bill Kenny that came here to say that he was going to go to CPC I don't think they have a because I thought that Mr Mancini from the CPC asked me a question about this so um I can check

and see if that's still I know there was some money and then there was an additional money so maybe there's some CPC and some Opa I know that in the files in the planning office there were a few different iterations of plans so there might have been money used from CBC in the past to come up with some plans um but then Mr Kenny the planner at the time went to arpa for

the final set of construction documents um and the actual construction of the project cuz I remember watching that meeting uh before he left before his retirement he went to CPC and talked about three projects it was rail trail extension the rail it was the rail trail extension it was this project it was Lo Kennedy the look Overlook over and then he also said about covering the rest of the highway

with a linear Park in the future or something like that but that's never for talking to mass DT and everything about covering that and it was how much I'm s 300,000 for design construction admin and construction would the stage structure be something that's there like not remov yeah it'd be permanent yep I don't know the only thing I'm I would be concerned with would be that like as a liability

when there isn't an event going on if someone like jumps off of it but I guess like that could be something that could happen at the Pavilion too I think the I'm not entirely sure but it's less than a foot off the ground okay um and then also when it comes to having like the tables and chairs to store in there I would suggest not doing that just because if whoever has keys to that

building because I I because I used to work in that building and everyone has keys to most of the the storage areas in there at least we did at the time cuz I remember we had access to other people's stuff and I was like this makes absolutely no sense um but if like the restaurant that's there I don't even know if that restaurant's still open they wanted to haveen outside I don't

think they've opened no well if they wanted to have an outside area like they could put their own and then put them away after or if someone wants to have an event that day for that space they could bring their own stuff versus us or the city having their um items there because I just feel like that would end up be going missing very quickly so is there a plan for a third

bid third time I think right now we're exploring um oh internal internal uh General Contracting it ourselves um before we decide to go out to bed if we were to go out to bid a third time it'd be in the winter so we're going to spend the next couple of weeks talking about how we can do this internally if it's possible because every time we go out to bid and every time we change these plans we're

knocking down the construction money too you got to realize that y every time you go out for bid it costs you money you're going to advertise you're going to do all that kind of stuff every time you um you know the contractor has to or the architect has to change this plan he's not doing it for free so your 300,000 is probably down to about two by now right about 250 yeah 250 exactly I was

exaggerating but I mean it does eat into yeah it's about4 to $500 to go out to bid all right any other questions okay thanks for the upate like accept this or or just no there's nothing to accept has nothing to tell you just place on file no it's in your agenda package so I mean you can motion to place it on file okay I make a motion to accept and place

on file second commissioner B has made that motion seconded by commissioner Regal all in favor say I I thank you sir just motioning to accept the documents that he's presented not anything of the work Item B request from the girl softball league fall schedule for the field use of Dumont field bro Boulevard do they have to ask permission for this I thought this was like their field now or is this a completely

different they're no different than Maplewood they have to come in they have to ask permission they have to provide the documentation all we're doing is saying with them like like we do with Maplewood like we do with Kennedy okay these are the fields that you will be utilizing but they still have to ask for specific dates and times they still have to provide all the okay documentation so

um this here where they have 900 p.m.

it's definitely not going to be 9900 p.m because there's no lights or anything there so it's going to be till do and then um also no one else uses these because I I mean I don't think that they're having games from 7: a.m. until 9:00 p.m. like on both no what happen Saturday and what happen and that's the thing see what we go again with the time thing what happens is a lot of times

they'll get the field from 300 p.m.

which would be the kids getting out of school till then but when it comes to be summertime they want it at 8 in case they want to have practices when it's warm or N9 out of 10 times they're not there so that's something I mean this is basically for the fall right now I did tell them that this would be something that in the spring they have to resubmit their dates and times again so the board

can address that yeah then of how they want to you know if they want to do this 8:00 or um cuz sometimes they use it to work on fields or whatever but that's a bridge that we can cross with them like we cross with Maplewood but most of them get it from 300 p.m. I have to say not 8 okay so this is just a matter of them getting these dates for now um

because I don't know how they're going to play on those fields though because they're working on those fields and there's they're all cut up and there's all so I don't know how they're going to practice unless they really get there and do some serious work in the next couple weeks yeah but we can a lot them the time so in case they do you know happen to do all that they can go there with their

teams okay do I have a motion to approve motion to uh approve second commissioner Burns made that motion second by commissioner Regal all in favor say hi hi hi item C uh request from the for OFA art projects the use of Kennedy Park Middle Street to host a Halloween parade an event on Saturday October 28th from 400 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. uh at 4:45 p.m. I received an email at the parkboard email

uh that comes forward to me too uh asking to withdraw this uh they're not going to be able to do this this year do I have a motion to motion to withdraw withdraw commission Rigo made that motion second by commissioner Burns all favor say I hi item d letter from Jack Hackett scholarship softball league regarding ball field lighting project at Kelly Park Globe

Street oh we got a couple of letters in your packet one is from Mr hacket to myself and Mr ol Vera um it's my understanding that this past week um Mr Hackett went to meet with Mr olera and he said that he really didn't get many of his questions answered so um just so the board knows I've had feelers out for this project this is a CBC project that needs to be completed by June of

2024 um I asked I have an email to Mr aliver because he wanted different Architects we running into a situation where the same architect was being used we he felt that they were kind of being over utilized so weren't able to give enough time to certain projects so um I have an email in August I think it was August 28th asking him if he had secured this architect because the Maplewood

winding down I wanted to kick this one into gear he said he had um I emailed him again to say are you ready to move with uh Kelly Park and I received a phone call where he said he didn't know if they had the architectural fees I informed him that the architectural fees were part of the CPC money so they could go out with that he stated he was going to speak to John

Brandt that was the end of August I haven't heard back so I will again email Mr Olivera and ask where this project stands hands but this project has to get out into an architect's hands has to get out for bid because Maple would went out the bid twice hasn't even been out the bid yet the specs are not even put together yet I have the musco lighting guy I had him

visit the site and he's putting together the plan so that if we have to do like we did the last time and buy the lights in the co-op remember we had to separate the bid MH I have that information so I'm trying to do whatever information I can to be ready to roll when when this goes but um at this point I don't have an answer but I do want the board to

know that I have you know been working behind the scenes that I'm just I'm kind of running in place here till I get an answer on this architect so I will send an email and find out where it stands and if not I will bring it back before this board at the next meeting so you guys might have a little bit more punch than me and try to move it forward well but it

needs to move forward my suggestion is uh I did the tour in the walking uh with the when um we looked at these lights and the the bids and at from last time and for Maplewood and it came in way over budget and everything the way we did it this past time we ended up ordering the lights inhouse and then we had the it was a co-op a co-op a contractor and I I think

we should be doing the same thing if it worth the first time why are we changing cost now a second time when we haven't even gotten nowhere if anything we're going to end up losing this money if we don't get off our hands and do something yeah well so I think if we don't have any luck then Mr Oliver is going to need to come before this board next month and explain why what you said

okay um I make a motion to accept in place well I guess you could you can yeah accept and ask that if we don't have any additional information either I bring you information back to this meeting or if I don't have the information then Mr Olivera would have to bring you back the inform is that is it something that like like I don't know if it's in appropriate

but like one of us call him or like Joey call like or like physically call like I know you send an email but like us try to call and be like hey if you don't have an answer for this you have to like to let him know that like you don't have something now by well in my email to him I'm going to tell him that the board discussed it watch this forward watch

the Mee and see what we how we have yeah I mean if I don't if I don't I will have an answer probably within two weeks it won't wait till you four weeks of your meeting if I don't I can let the chairman know that and if anybody wants to reach out they can they can do whatever they got to do but okay um at this point um we going to get purchasing

you know to put these one an architect to put the bid together that's number one cuz you can't put your bid out without an architect putting that together mhm um I personally feel that if to switch Architects at this point we just had that architect do this project at map so if they want to switch Architects down the road I think that's fine I think the architect that we have that did a

Maplewood project this is kind of repeat you know so let's just may be more familiar with it rather than get someone on brand new let's get this guy on repeat get the co-op lights going and get these lights in because if the weather is good I'd like to stop taking them down in the fall yeah okay and put them up in the spring because Maplewood was delayed with their schedules because

of time we had to put it off a bit twice you know we never know what we're going to go in you know go run into so personally I think that I would like to see the same architect because this is just like pushing the repeat button in a different place yeah okay that makes sense that's my opinion that's the board and the board can either say that's what

they want to do and I can Echo that to Mr Olivera or you can do whatever you want to do yeah um I make a motion that you that we accept this and then you reach out and we try and get some more information so we can make a plan at the next board meeting second commissioner Burns made that motion seconded by commissioner Rego all in favor say I hi item uh item e request from the

Garden Club regarding permission to plant a memorial Tree in Kennedy Park Broadway at a location acceptable to the park board board of parks uh Parks Apartment short and sweet I've worked with these ladies they came back they did the center Garden they replanted everything there pulled out the old stuff put new stuff they want to plant a memorial Tree in memory of someone of the Garden Club they had a location

picked out we're going to put another tree similar to the ones that Chris had they can't get that tree and Chris suggested um because pirano I guess at the time was working with them back then with the tree planting he suggested that they don't plant where those trees are so I suggested to them there is a sign at the the entrance of Kennedy Park that used to have a tree there and an

ornamental tree would be fine it wouldn't have to be a big giant tree but the tree that the the sign when you go into the W Pond area there's no plant no shrub there so they probably would be able to plant a tree right there so if the board doesn't have any objection and I spoke to Chris Martin about it who does do the tree planting he's like I think that's fine so the board has no

objection I'm going to suggest that they buy whatever kind of tree is you know acceptable to that area and planted there and this way they can plant cuz it's got to get in the ground before next month how about a holiday AC I was I was going to say whatever whatever tree they pick just make sure it's something fruit I said no or something that like is like a pre-approved via whoever yes knows those

things that was one of the trees that the group did say they could have with the dropping fr yeah so I've been very clear with them anything that's going to drop create fruit fall we want either little flowers to fall to the ground or leaves to fall to the ground that's it we don't want any type of okay so that they're well aware of that yep motion to approve motion to approve by

commissioner Regal do I have a second second second by commissioner farious all in favor say I I all oh item f request from Diamond vocational athletic director Bobby Bailey the use of berland Park soccer field wordell street with Lighting on October 23rd for a night game for senior night make a motion to approve um there's no before you no conflicts anybody else on a Monday no we don't we only have lights

on for Fridays on the okay but nobody else's practices no other games nothing like that he um not with permission okay well motion to approve uh commissioner uh uh Burns had made that motion first uh second by commissioner rioo second all in favor say I I I item G volleyball courts construction bid project at Kennedy Park Bay Street we have anybody here for that do we oh say any questions you want to ask I will

help you as best I can uh Charlie denme DCM director and um what questions can I help you with Mr the commissioner all right so do you have any questions yeah one of the questions was when this uh when Mr Olivera did come back for this uh and asked I know this park boy said a couple of months back that we recommended either palaski or Maplewood but now it's back at Kennedy because we were concerned with

the pickle ball that was there was not enough parking and this project now going down here there's no parking added is there future plans for parking there there are future plans for parking um when I I had that uh long discussion with Mr Dion today um and uh the reason it's not being put in at this point is they're going to wait for the next budget and that money will be in that budget for the additional

parking is that a guarantee well I'm just throwing it out there this is the what commissioner Burns had me uh just came up I was going to say the same thing I would like to have this in writing yeah a letter drawn up that there is going to be proposal that there is going to be some kind of funding or proposal because no offense the last few par projects that either we weren't

involved with this board hasn't been involved with to the 11th hour or something you go to britland park and I'm part of the emails and everything back and foot with contractors and that and Britain's a mess right now flooding in that they had the police pooa that you couldn't even use that area because it was a swamp and it was never like that before no Miss Smith and myself we've identified that with britland Park

and we all agree that uh there has to we have to add parking down to the britland uh to the pickle ball court which will also now have the two volleyball courts over there um and we can get a letter for uh future commitment um I I believe now is the uh is the approval for the court you know so but um the funding for that is all in place so okay sorry go ahead my question

I have well I have a question for the parking and I know we're not there yet however if there was parking and if there was a plan would it be going on the side where the volleyball court is or the Vol like because we're talking about where the the softball field is correct am I going crazy no they're going right behind eventually because there were going to be so many things down we

talked but presently I think what they're just talking about is to accommodate those two facilities at this point because what was what was talked eventually you may have to do that because if they're going to talk about splash pads and all these other things that have been coming down the road then you will need even addition additional parking to that I think there's been some discussion about moving the courts

a little bit about so that they may be able to utilize street parking or I don't you know I I'm not 100% sure yeah it could be adjusted so we can uh access the court from either the pickle ball uh parking lot where the pickle ball is or from Bradford a and it's a matter of just Little movement on the court itself but um we like and again we all agreed

that uh parking needs to be added uh Miss Smith and myself we went around there we got a really good idea where we replace to add on to it but um yeah the only thing you this board can do is request oper funding you want to do whatever you do you do it that's your choice they can deny it they can add it to it but again I don't know how

long this oper funding is going to last MH yeah know that's my I was thinking that it was going where the softball field was and I didn't know how much space of that was going to be taken up ignore that this is this is going to where uh the old sand volleyball is behind the old pool yeah um the other thing I wanted to ask was uh Mr

de if we did have money in the budget or oper fund and everything I see your guys do work yeah we couldn't have our own in in-house guys pave a parking lot we uh we're very close have traffic and have traffic stripe it it's it's something we've been uh looking looking to do within the department itself and its ad uh a couple of pieces of equipment this year we have uh uh a large triaxle we

purchased through oper funding in uh we're about a paver and four employees away for being from being a from being able to do this workout internally I mean we do some we do a lot of sidewalks we do a lot of Paving to to a to a limited size because of uh we don't possess the right equipment but that's that's in the discussion and that'll be coming up otherwise we could lay out

that poket lot ourselves and the savings would be immense well especially with the oper funding right now if we're getting projects to double or triple the amount well as you look at this and there a good portion of oper funding in here so um because CDA at the at this point this is what they could contribute what they did and that's why the discussion is soon as we hit he hits the next budget

they can open the parking kie did he tell you if his next budget starts July that no I and you know I I sat I sat back there and I don't know if their budget runs calendar year or or if it runs uh yeah I it could it it's Authority runs from it starts in April yeah I it might be that that was a good question I asked myself that here I

asked Mike when because I knew you were going to ask gamber when does your next your next year stop y I didn't get a response yet so um Now Well Community Development might be different I know they go well it's April April 1st to March 31st no you you can Google it yeah House's April 1st to March 31st yeah that's would H probably pH used to be October I remember a long time ago

October to October the state the state it could be July to July because they the state is different than the city too January yeah the state's got a different cycle too yeah so bad service in this building maybe they should add that into the budget you can look at the budget will say what what the months are but I just can't physically open it because the service in here isn't bad

isn't good but I would have I would assume it was um either the same as the Housing Authority which would be April 1 I don't think it's a calendar cuz I don't think most most cities don't run on a calendar year no we run on a fiscal July one yeah but Mike Dion's money is HUD money oh HUD is HUD is um CDA uh January is it January no I'm like or is

that because there's HUD money there's what's that HUD well the new the new D it's a new name they got so I know HUD and DHD are separate and they have different fiscal years and then I know those two were different and then it might be October now that you said that I think it's O listen don't quote me but I yeah because I know the Housing Authority HUD and dhcd all had different um which

was so D because it seemed and the reason I say that is this project is coming out now and it's October so but it could be July he could go out for bid in July for some items I don't know but um if this goes out to bid depending on the weather it might not be installed till spring that that's the question is is when we put it out because relatively

the project itself is no no bigger than the basketball court right you know so it with the fencing and all I don't think it would take that long to actually do it it's when they get it in their hands the contractor gets it that's when the time the clock starts your parking situation probably won't be issue until spring anyway cuz I unlike yeah pickle ball I don't know the they

popped all over the grass on a pickle balls cuz I went by the other night they were packed all over the grass yeah but I don't think that they would play so I think it would be when it comes to Spring we would need to have addressed parking so you got a little bit of time there I mean now I had another question are you all set yeah you all set yeah well

actually one last thing I the only thing I would say is when you were saying like is it when I had said is it a guarantee that this would be in the budget I don't think they're allowed to say that like I can't I don't think prior to the budget being like approved of I don't think that they're cuz like the well the only thing that the board can say is we're not going to approve any

additional C CDA money for other projects until the parking project is funded because technically the board can if the board is approving these projects they can say this how did this project supersede our request for parking our initial and most urgent request that we have right now is parking so if an additional project comes to you that's CDA funded and you feel that the parking is should

take precedent then you guys at that point probably would be able to say what happened to the pocket that's probably the only like you said they can't promise any money but when new money comes forward if it's for something else then you could say how come we skipped over the parking you knew that was a priority and in adamant precedent of this board you got to fight that fight then I guess I mean I I

I I guess I wouldn't hold up the no but then my only concern which and like I know that that we're all on the same page with this is God forbid if something happens because people are parking like crazy down there or someone Parks across the street and it's walking over like there's just that's just too much put I'm a very good at recording put a side note that you are very

concerned you you're approving this not reluctantly but you know with with this under prot yeah however you want to put it but you know we're moving this project forward with a stipulation that the additional parking additional parking is going to be put in place you can put it in there and you know and when there's a parking issue and we come forward we don't want to be swept under

the carpet because we brought this F yeah you know if we're talking about it now this is a public meeting that you can say roll tape here's roll roll tape here you got to going and you're concerned about the parking you want it to be immediately addressed whether I mean if if we have other funding sources then show us these other funding sources like I said grants are not going to pay

for parking lots Mr 's already given our uh money Opa is given money so where are our other funding sources that we were talked about when we went to council they told the council we had other funding sources whoever presented our budget said we have other funding sources so we didn't need money in our budget well show me the Mone there you go Jerry Maguire show me the money no

okay you I don't know so you have it all yep so everyone that we can get money from we've gotten the money from and we're still we still have a shortfall so as long as you guys are we're all discussing that we all brought that for you know to the Forefront I think we award the contract and hope everyone keeps their promises okay I guess shaking her head no she's just

cold hold my mouth on this one you have any questions commissioner Rego Al are you set any questions okay one thing I just want to know since this is going out behind the pool area and everything and I know pickup walls right off the parking lot is there any sidewalks or anything to get to that there's going to be installations of walkway okay to cut to to feed compliance that's been discussed

and there will be installation of walkways okay just don't want nobody going across grass that no it's been it's been we we picked that up and that will they will be installed all right so do I have a motion to approve this motion to approve motion to approve uh commissioner rioo do have a second second second by commissioner Burns and that's going to be added with that side letter yes what side letter

the what we just had about I'm concerned oh the side concern not a letter side not side not side note of the parking L yep yeah uh all in favor say I I I thank you okay commissioner inquiries I have one yes commissioner Burns it's about the parking but not really um what and I feel like I should have asked this when Chris was here but what ended up happening to the Overlook

project is that like not a thing anymore the one down below the remember how they were saying they wanted to do a what was like a walking path or like a trail that just it's in this no it the CP it's a CPC project it was $150,000 originally I don't know if Mr uh what was his name the previous planner um Kenny if Mr Kenny he did ask for additional money because it's been

around so long it needed additional monies I don't I can check with the CPA to see if that's if they were given that original money but that's another uh project that is in planning okay cuz my only question on top of that would be back to what are we going to do with that softball field area cuz I just feel like it's just sitting there colleting dust again I think when they when they

do that because that had 10 parking spaces they would need to which they when it came before the board the board said scrap this plan 10 parking places is not going to cut it come back with more parking places that's how it went back to I was going to say I remember that part but then I don't remember it ever coming back so I think at that point when that's addressed and these

other facilities are addressed and if the if there is ever the splash pad that's something that we're going to have to definitely okay I you know my suggestion was that's the parking and you have to put one of those buttons so people can cross the street and people can you know if it's going to get to a point where there's not enough Park once you put the facilities in there's not enough park for the parking yeah

so that would be the only that would be the logical thing to do some of the you know make a set of whatever steps or whatever out of that parking lot that some people could use but again you got to make that parking lot so that people can get on the sidewalks and go um if they're not able to do steps so there's a lot of things that come with that but

yeah I'm I'm I'm happy that they're trying to do something with that area cuz I just feel like it's been like a dead area for a while and certain people have been taking advantage of it which as they should um but yeah that's my like I said that would be my thought is make that a parking lot um but but that's in my head I if we're still doing the Overlook then

that should be in someone's plan somewhere or somehow in see or or as a parkboard or as a parkboard suggestion for your CDA funding so that you can accommodate all these people then you would now I don't know what they if they can just do a parking lot it's very difficult for a grant or whatever to just do a parking lot nobody wants to do a parking lot they want when they when

we get a grant they want to do the park the benches the splash pads the playground they want to do the whole thing who nobody wants to give you money to make a pocket lot so probably it is going to be something that ends up being done in house if we get this kind of equipment that Mr Den was talking about because it's not a glamorous thing like no one has a ribbon cutting for a pocket

lot I will I agree I I will but you know what I'm saying it's like it's not anything that everyone goes oh great we have a pocket lck so I think that's something that hav had a ribbon cut ceremony for a $2 million project that we did for o Cemetery yeah no that was like I said in my head I was like if we're putting all the stuff down there like we can't keep

adding has been discussed as turning into a permanent parking lot again uh put it on the I went to the uh memorial for Richard Urban Sunday yes it was very nice they had a very very nice memorial his daughter was down from Boston so but the works I'm trying to get a bench to put out veterans going to help uh Mr nefar anything uh just uh uh one thing I want

to know uh last month we had uh just want to make sure that we're all in agreement with this uh so Miss Smith has uh her uh orders to oh my watching yeah we agreed that we're not going to change past practice all nets all equipment get taken down on November 1 is that correct we still the tennis court oh I was like I thought I didn't even know that I

thought that's what we were doing it's a it's a normal thing but I thought you said before Halloween well it's Halloween is the last day okay yeah and then the lights go off and the Nets come down but I just want everybody to know because the phone calls could stop you know do you take the basketball hoop Nets down okay yeah know that's the tennis Nets because if they get snow or

whatever they say pick a ball C you know the pickle ball carts are going to come down come down the lights go off for the season till like March when we put it back up again mhm we're all in agreement with that I just want to know what I'm doing yes yep you my number Nancy I got your back okay all right uh do I have a motion to adjourn motion to adjourn commissioner rioo made

that motion do I have a second second second uh by commissioner farus all in favor say I I