11.18.2024 Fall River School Committee

here we go I'd like to call to order the regular meeting of the for school committee for November 18th uh Deb could you please call the role Mr Agia here Mr Bailey here Mr Das here Mr Cory Miss larv Miss Pereira here mayor Coogan here salute to the flag please I pledge allegiance to the flag flag United States of America and to the rep for it stands one nation under God indivisible liy and justice for

all pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible Mr Mayor Mr agar like to make a motion that we move the

recognition Awards uh which is three number three to uh number two on the agenda today and moving forward uh Mr agar uh one question I agree with you 200% can we also move up the student comment number six at the same time before we go to uh citizens input both of those absolutely to but I would like it so it's every meeting we don't have to keep making the motion okay makes

sense makes sense all right so we're going to take two uh we're going to go hold two and go to the recognitions awards first um the Massachusetts associate of school superintendant has designated this award for academic Excellence I'm going to turn it over to our superintendent can I get do a roll call oh we have to do a roll call on flipin Mr ago yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das

yes Mr Cory M lar M Perera yes mayor Coogan yes are we going down we're going to go down front yes

the superintendent academic excellence awards are given annually to high school students across the state who have distinguish distinguished themselves eles in the pursuit of Excellence during their High School careers this year we have three outstanding students to recognize karita Ramsey is a remarkable well-rounded young woman she is the number one student in dery senior class she has consistently demonstrated an

extraordinary level of academic excellence and personal character throughout her high school years Katarina earned nothing short of an A+ in every class she took during her junior year this included eight advanced placement classes for which on AP exams she scored a five on all but one this academic record reflects her dedication intelligence and unwavering commitment to her education her

intellectual curiosity is endless and she consistently seeks to challenge herself as a participant in a two-week pre-ol program at the University of Notre Dame Katarina enjoyed learning at a Collegiate level which has further prepared her for the rers of her higher education in addition to our academic achievements Katarina is a dedicated three- sport athlete and has seamlessly balanced her commitment to Athletics

with her academic responsibilities Beyond Sports she is an advanced piano player and volunteers her musical talents at Charlton Memorial Hospital it is also worth mentioning that Katarina is a triplet and the friendly competition between them drives each other to strive for excellence despite this competitive Spirit Karina is kind and supportive of her siblings and her peers she has

applied early decision to Georgetown University where she hopes to continue achieve greatness in all her Endeavors Karina Ramsey

Casey harez is the eighth ranked student in the senior class she has consistently demonstrated academic Excellence resilience and an inspiring drive toward success she is a first generation College Bound student whose academic record consists of high level rigorous courses she will have taken 12 ADV advanced placement courses by the time she graduates Casey has a passion for the Sciences particularly chemistry which

was apparent in her academic performance in AP Chemistry the most C challenging AP course offered at dery she is especially proud of earning qualifying scores on all of her AP exams to date a testament not only to her intellect but her unwavering commitment to her education she further is the recipient of a national recognition award from the College Board Beyond her academic strengths Casey is known for her

kindness humor and positive attitude qualities that make her well-liked by her peers and teachers she has a natural ability to connect with others she is mature and independent she has applied early decision to Columbia University where she hopes to pursue a degree in Biochemistry in pursuit of a future career at as a neuro radiologist Casey Warez

Jacob Anderson is a respectable kind hardworking student who is incredibly dedicated to his Studies by the end of his high school career he will have taken eight advanced placement courses earning A's or higher in all of them his hard work and determination have certainly paid off for him as he currently ranks 17 out of the class of almost 600 students and holds a 4.7 GPA over the past four years Jacob has

recently has really started to come out of his shell and flourish into an incredible young man his love for Math and Engineering are very obvious not only from his course selection and grades but from his remarkable ability to tackle complex problems with efficiency and precision he has been a key member of our honors engineering CTE program and has taken on leaders ship roles inside

and outside of the classroom within the classroom setting Jacob's classmates would describe him as ambitious curious hardworking and astute he is always willing to lead group projects and assist fellow peers with challenging coursework that he has been able to master outside of the classroom he has been involved in a number of extracurricular activities including the French Club marine biology Club interact

club and a member of our National Honor Society most recently Jacob was nominated to the career technology education Leadership Council which will give him the opportunity to represent the engineering Pathway to voice about the progress that has been made in concerns moving forward Jacob is also an avid chess player the game has taught him crucial skills such as strategic planning imaginative problem solving and

resilience to face setbacks anyone who has able to know Jacob over the years has been lucky enough not only to witness his greatness but also his transformation into a confident young man that commands respect from his peers and teachers alike his intellectual curiosity strong worth work ethic and Leadership qualities positioned him as an outstanding candidate for any computer engineering at the college level Jacob

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the next award is the college Bo College Board National recognition award it is a national academic honor granted to the highest achieving students from underrepresented student groups in higher education this award recognizes students for their outstanding academic performance and provides them with an opportunity to access a range of scholarships College admissions opportunities and other benefits to be

considered for the national recognition award board students must meet several several criteria they must have a GPA of a B+ or higher at the time they are submitting weighted and unweighted gpas are considered they must identify as black African-American Latino Hispanic indigenous native first generation college student or attend a high school in a rural area or small town they must

be in the top 10% among psat1 and PSAT and msqt takers test takers in the 11th grade in their state or have received a three or higher score on at least two distinct AP exams by the end of 10th grade the College Board National recognition award is an excellent way to gain recognition for students hard work and it helps to open doors to additional academic and financial opportunities we

are so proud of our hell toppers for earning this prestigious national award we have multiple awardees and I will call them down um as a group with time in between so they can all have their moment the first is Nita

azimi Payton K Madison Ferrera

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Casey

Warez Owen monis and Jason

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Potter Cheyenne raposo and Angel Rosario

we had one additional student who could not be with us this evening Israel LMA

I went to dery I almost did like I I was at my for some reason right before I left I wait a minute it's a c but it was like last night it

hi uh next up is the student delegate report first up is uh Brook toas from

dery um so our teachers just as of this as of last week they started a secret spirit week and it's been really nice to to see them and our security guards getting involved and um showing some school spirit it's a nice surprise for all the students and then this week we're starting our spirit week which will lead up to our pep rally next week um yeah that's all my upates thank you

Brook um next up from RPA NAA acendo

okay hi guys uh okay so today we were just going to let you know um some of the activities we have planned at RPA um throughout the months of October through December um we have a Chocolate fundraising that varied from $1 to $2 and a movie night a Hispanic lunch breakfast for students so all the students feel more heard and paid attention to um during these events we've also had volunteering churches

making LNA for families in need and um so far during November we have had a pajama punch paint night and a girl and boy um School C student council meeting to a place level 99 uh field trip and we volunteering again at the CH Church to bag food for families in need uh we are starting a book year Club a yearbook Club um December 3rd and after school activities to make ornaments December

11th and that's all we have so far thank you thank you both very much we appreciate the updates next up is Citizens input um first up is Kaylee monus Globe Street Fall River three minutes please

Kaylee good evening members of the school committee my name is Kayla monz and I am currently a special education teacher for social excuse Kayla could you please uh use the microphone a little bit closer sorry okay good evening members of the school committee my name is Kayla monz and I am currently a special education teacher for social emotional Learners in a sub-par setting I have been a part of

the far public schools for 10 years now following in my mother's footsteps who was also a special educator in Far public schools for over 20 years before her tragic passing one thing that I have always remembered from her passing was the love and support that the public Community showed by offering condolences stories of her days as an educator and support for my SI Lings and I I had

never been so proud to be part of a dedicated hardworking and caring Community a lot of the teachers that have worked with my mother or myself have now moved on either to early retirement or new communities nowadays there is less admiration and respect for what a teacher does and it's time to change that and that change can begin with you it is time to not only show us but the families of the community that

you respect and appreciate everything that we do by giving us a livable wage I am also a single mom to two wonderful children who also attend the far OFA Public Schools they have also witnessed some of really great teachers move on when this happens they turn to me to look for answers as to why I have to tell them that they are making decisions to provide for their own families years

ago I made the decision to go back to school and attain my Masters in Education in order to PS pursue something I love and secure a future for my own children now I'm not so sure what that looks like maybe you can take the time and explain to them why their mother cannot afford to make a livable wage when she is one of the many teachers who work so hard to create

futures for not only her own children but the children who live within the community in fact the next time you visit one of the schools explain to all the children when one day the teacher that was not only taught them but practically raised them will no longer be here one day as well thank you thank

you uh next up we have two people together um Council vice president Linda Pereira and former Chief of the fire department John

Lynch three minutes please guys thank you members of the school committee good evening as you already said I'm John Lynch I live at 612 South Main Street for Mass lifelong resident of for River and a proud member of the greatest class ever to come out of dery high school which was 1975 I'll run you for your money lindri and myself are here representing the George sneaker McDonald and Evelyn McDonald Memorial monument

fund we erected a monument at Lafayette Park in their memory and he was so well loved and respected by everybody in fall river that the funds that we raised far exceeded what we needed to build a monument so as a result the committee which consisted of Linda myself Don roit Tom Chase Chuck TBO and Mike herin decided that we were going to take the funds that were left over and donate

them to certain causes and one of the causes we want to give a scholarship in the amount of $1,500 to the dery scholarship fund so we're hoping that you will approve of this tonight and you have anything else to say just that yeah so we are hoping that this scholar ship is given to a baseball player from dery because George and Evelyn were so involved in baseball and Fall River that we' like to see that

scholarship divided up if you want to or to one person but somebody that played baseball and is fair than their education well thank you very very much it's very generous the committee leaves it up to members of the scholarship committee whether you want to do three $500 ones two 750 ones or $1,500 one but thank you so much and the committee was really glad and happy that we were able

to do this and we really feel that um George and sneak uh sneaker McDonald and and Evelyn never had children but a couple that did so much for the children in our community so with our good wishes that it goes to someone um worthy of it thank you all and I hope that that's approved this evening thank you I just um Mr Cory I just wanted to say I I played

under sneer and they were some of the most joyful days of my life as a teenager how supportive he was he was also a neighbor and a dear friend God bless him and his wife and thank you for your work on this appreciate that you're welcome thank you the other thing that we would like to see happen whoever you give the scholarship or scholarships to if you could bring them down to

Lafayette Park to his memorial and take a picture there and just explain to him uh commit man Corey about sneaker and his impact on the Youth of Fall River thank you thank you uh next speaker I'll need a motion to wave the rules as they're from New Bedford um Mr Mayor as we discussed at the last meeting we don't have a rule with a residency requirement so I I would make the argument it's not it's

not necessary to make a motion anymore is that so Bruce we'll continue with it tonight Colin and if you're right we'll definitely correct it by next meeting I need a motion to W the rules second I have Bobby and Colin all in favor I opposed unanimous Sarah Lemieux Terry Lane New Bedford hello I'm Sarah Lemieux and I'm reading this letter on behalf of my colleague Crystal Martinez good evening members of the

school committee and mayor Coogan my name is Crystal Martinez and I'm a 20-year veteran of the Fall River School Department I wrote this letter to tell you about the effects teacher retention has not only had on our students but on our veteran staff as well I have worked within the walls of a varis Elementary since its doors opened 15 years ago I've had the opportunity to grow as a young

educator surrounded by veteran teachers with a plethora of knowledge in the early years of my career I was part of a teaching and learning community that was consistent and returned year after year as retirements grew positions were posted and filled unfortunately for many of us the co year was a pivotal year financially and emotionally and soon affect students behaviorally for the

staff at Bas we were stripped of our extended day Grant leaving us to return to work with 30% less pay students with increased learning gaps and social emotional delays like we have never seen before within the past four years the teacher retention rate has decreased and many of our veteran teachers are leaving our district where they offer livable wages and an incentive for longevity as

for myself I've been offered many positions from other districts my heart has kept me here in Fall River and I have been fortunate to have developed incredible relationships with my students Families my Administration and my colleagues but after this past school year my entire team left fall for altogether I personally have resigned from being a teacher leader because my mental health could not continue to be p

in the back burner and try to prepare a whole new team to teach in this community as a single mother losing my extended day pay and having to choose my stien for Teacher leader over my mental health has weighed heavily on my financial standings I like many of my colleagues have dedicated time and used personal money to create a loving and inclusive environment for all of our students all of the holes and knows on

the school committee has responded to our bargaining team demonstrates that you do not see the value in our veteran staff the new teacher turnover rate demonstrates that we have veteran teachers that we veteran teachers are indispensable and should not only be respected but valued for our immense skills and dedication to educating the Youth of Fall River but at some point veteran teachers like myself have to

make the best financial decisions to be the best versions of ourselves for our own family if the day comes that I leave this District to make sure I can provide for my own child I want every student I have ever taught to remember you are capable you are worthy you are special and you are loved love always Miss Martinez thank you thank

you next up I'll need a motion to wave the rules as the speakers from Westport oh is that you y Malia Martinez all right Malia 3 minutes please thank you oh well hold on a minute we we're going to get the vote yeah I got a motion to Second all in favor opposed unanimous go ahead Malia good evening my name is Malia Martinez I am the daughter of Crystal Martinez my mom is a kindergarten

teacher at the vas Elementary School I am here tonight to tell you my perspective on of my mother as a teacher every day my mom mom goes to work excited to see your students with the love and care every teacher should have every night my mom tells me stories about her kids and she smiles and says how much she loves them my mom takes homework every night and weekends to make sure these children have a good

education my mom loves the students of for River so much she plans family events at her school and even coaches the bis girls basketball team my mom chooses to work in for River because she she loves this community but my mom also loves me and her number one job is to provide what is best for me my mom deserves liable wages just like all the other teachers in the Commonwealth deserves thank

you I'll need a motion to wave the rules the next speaker as there from Tian motion second thank you uh all in favor I oppos unanimous Kim suin F fory fory Avenue tiban I hope that's right this is very unfair that I have to follow Miss Martinez yeah I am Kim southernland and I'm proud to be a special education inclusion teacher at fonsa elementary this is my 30th year in special education 23 of

those years have been in Fall River um so I've seen many contracts come and go over the course of my career and I have an understanding of how negotiations can often be tense as all parties have wants and needs that require vetting active listening and collaboration one constant that I've noticed during each contract negotiation is the assertions that the money isn't there and we'll make it up to you next

time uh however that there has not truly been a next time in fell River the F has accepted years of 0%.5% and generally no more than 2.5% salary increases in the vast majority of contracts during my time here in F River and this contract should be the time when the city is making it up to us the funding is there and I believe that your negotiating team learned that during a

recent Finance meeting in 2020 in the city the per pupil spending was $1 13,524 this year the budgeted per pupil spending is $1,549 the new funding formula is helping our district it's been three months since you've made a proposal on compensation and two months since F's counter proposal and since then it's been crickets so my colleagues and I highly educated highly qualified are here again begging for our

supper meet us somewhere in the middle why does it need to be this difficult the writing's on the wall we have multiple teacher vacancies HR is a revolving door and teaching is hard enough these days without having to beg and plead for pay commensurate with our experience you've reject rejected our request for educator autonomy within established guidelines this tells me that although we're highly educated and

highly qualified the district does not consider that we can be trusted to make professional decisions in what other profession is this acceptable none so we come to these school committee meetings to ask you to give a little and are rewarded with platitudes like remember your why when I guarantee you that there's not one educator in this room who has forgotten that they chose this profession in this small

culturally rich but challenging small City because their why is front and center every single day and every night in their minds remember your why is what Spin Doctors use to justify poor compensation and or treatment and it's insulting or we may be mocked for not having more members present at school committee meetings when you know that many of our younger and or newer teachers are working second jobs many of

us have children at home to raise or ear night classes to earn that required Masters as for those of us who are here which in past months have included at least two F members who are on maternity leave which I find extraordinary I ask you to take a look at the audience tonight there are teachers in this room who are right now writing lesson plans on their laptops or doing homework

towards their Advanced degrees but they wanted to be here and there's no way to add hours to a day last month I counted five teachers doing that exact same thing just in the vicinity of where I was sitting I know you see it I hope you understand it if you don't I hope you'll come to one of our schools and spend the day see what it means to teach in Fall

River and to take care of our 10,000 children Shadow a teacher talk to kids talk to staff and For the Love of All that is good and decent please stop telling teachers that there could be legal ramifications to leaving at the contractual dismissal time motion away the rules three minutes pardon that's three minutes okay it shouldn't U be difficult for this to us kind to find rul I understand as as committee members

you're not required to attend bargaining sessions but I am asking you to please consider attending the next bargaining meeting so you can hear the negotiations firsthand I know you have other obligations and time is precious for you and for us and we're all tired but we're not going away this is important and it's important for our new teachers to feel like their efforts are valued and

to know that this District supports its employees with competitive wages and fair working conditions and that they have a professional home here it's important for more seasoned teachers like myself to know that our contributions to the district are appreciated and that when the time for retirement comes we're leaving with a pension that reflects a respect for the loyalty and solid service we've provided

to the profession and to the city thank you next up uh next up Philip Ross Key Street Fall

River three minutes please Phil thank you I'll be brief thank you thank you Mr Mayor while I am a teacher at dery high school I'm not speaking to this committee tonight as a teacher and while I am a parent of a dery high school student I'm not here in that capacity either I'm here simply as voter I do live in Fall River and while I am not a lifelong resident my

wife and I have chosen to live in Fall River and have done so for the past 20 years therefore I'm also speaking as a homeowner and a taxpayer I'm wondering why we're here again this evening surely this contract could have been settled by now I cannot help but wonder is the school committee's negotiating team dragging their feet trying to wait out the Union to my mind that would be a not

bargaining in good faith and I hope that's not the case as I teach my students and I'm sure you're all aware we live in a representative democracy and in a democracy it's the people these people who ultimately hold the power also in a representative democracy you all represent myself and represent many of us therefore my message to the school committee tonight is very simple represent us work with the Union

negotiate this contract because while I am a parent and I am a taxpayer and I am a teacher I'm also a voter and any Authority that this committee has is given to you by these people these people so let's get the job done thank

you I'll need a motion to wave the rules as the next speakers from East Providence so moved I have a motion in second all in favor opposed unanimous Keith michon tryan Avenue East Providence good evening I'm Keith michan president of the forer Educators Association La last go ahead all right not too long I got only short time all right last month we delivered over 800 petitions for our members showing support for the

bargaining team's position that's that's not a vote that mayor cougan asked for but I hope it was clear that the members don't accept the committee's current offer at that time Mr aiar dismissed the petitions asking if there was $9 million in the Box insinuating that that amount of money was needed to meet our demands for the edification of the public that was inaccurate at that time the difference was about $8

million after some more movement by us I would say the difference is about 7.5 billion right now now it should also be noted that we're talking about 789 million over 3 years relative to an $800 million budget it's no small amount of money but we are in a thousand miles apart it should also be acknowledged that the Educators have delivered financially for the city of Fall River in addition to the many hours of unpaid

labor and purchased materials for River Educators and Educators across the Commonwealth have been strong advocates for fully funded schol schools the Educators contributed millions of dollars in countless hours in an effort to pass the student Opportunity Act which increased our funding by $65 million over the past four years and I project at least another $50 million over the next three

years in addition to that we committed our time and money to win the fair share Amendment which brought an additional $ 2.1 billion to the state of Massachusetts for transportation and education that amount is only expected to increase year after year and Fall River is expected to see many of those dollars our current priorities include addressing the inflation glitch of the Chapter 70 funding formula funding the

transportation reimbursement lines in our state budget addressing issues with circuit breaker funding for special education and funding our prek I'm glad to see the committee's legislative program policy on the agenda tonight and I hope that we can address these issues together it's time to settle settle Fair contracts for all the school Department's bargaining units dragging this out when the district has

never been in a better financial position is doing unnecessary harm it's time for you to show the employees that they are valued and that we have a shared Vision that they will buy into this system doesn't run without them thank you thank you Kei

Mr chairman Mr agier can we get somebody that's on the bargaining team to respond to any of the uh allegations that were alleged to Mr

Assad just want to establish a couple of facts that you may or may not be aware of and I'm talking right now to the committee one is that the committee the bargaining team offered to the F and the MTA to have their financial people meet with our financial individual that happened as a matter of fact my understanding is even the president of the MTA was was present at that meeting meeting took

place uh with our Chief Financial Officer and also the superintendent of schools purpose of the meeting was to see what the resources were of our community and where the MTA and the F believed the money was available to fund their proposal their proposal right now is approximately $8 million more than what the school committee has offered the school committee's offer is one of the very best in the state and that no

let me let me finish please let me finish please please nobody and that that is acknowledged by the president of your Union uh when he states it is true that I've stated in negotiations and many other places that the school committee's proposal is a significant offer specifically noting the salary offer and he mentions about as I have pointed out on many times percentage wise it is one

of the best in the state so that's not as please please I I didn't interrupt anyone and I hope you wouldn't interrupt us we have uh put one of the very finest packages in on Cola packages on the table in the state of Massachusetts in addition to that we've gone steps further I have on behalf of the school committee offered to the frea and the MTA on at least three occasions mediation to join Jo with us

for a petition with the DLR for mediation to have a trained mediator come into Fall River sit down with the parties and work out solutions that would resolve the issues we have I can think of no logical reason why anyone who would want to settle a contract would not want the assistance and resources of the DLR and a trained mediator to resolve the issues no one on this committee is dragging their

feet no one is dragging their feet a significant offer had the MTA and the F Finance teams meet with our finance teams opened up all our books to them again and then offered mediation to have a trained individual come in to sit down and try to resolve matters was rejected on every occasion by the MTA and the F we're going to continue to negotiate and we're going to continue to work uh to get a resolution

of the contract with the F Rea and the for school committee but uh I implore the F Rea and the MTA to work with us in terms of looking number one at a resolution and secondly about joining in a petition for a mediator to come into Fall River to help us get a resolution we are not at an impass but we do need the assistance of someone to move this

along we are not holding it up we're trying to expedite the matter and facilitate the matter thank you thank you lastly I need a motion to wave the rules make motion I got a motion a second all in favor I opposed unanimous Justin Raposa Justine Raposa Colonial Road Bristol I want to begin by apologizing for not being able to address you in person unfortunately I am currently at my

second job which is a necessity for me to make ends meet despite holding a bachelor's degree I have been with the district for four years working specifically for the special education department my parents have always taught me to have a great work ethic and to follow my passions my parents also taught me that I need to do my job right or I shouldn't be doing it at all all which is why it saddens me that despite

our efforts and advocacy for a livable wage you have failed to meet our needs and are keeping us from continuing to to be in jobs in which we feel so passionately about myself and my fellow educators are frustrated we want the best for our students here in fora but without a proper salary adjustment we have to weigh the odds of how much longer we can be in a district while being this underpaid

in comparison to other districts Fall River has become a stepping stone in new Educators career careers they stay here for a year so they get that time under their belt and move on to districts that pay more we're losing incredible staff that love the students of Fall River because we can't afford to live with all that the people we are bargaining against obtain salaries of nearly double to triple of what we are

currently making but tell us they know how we're all feeling when in reality they never could I hope that this meeting tonight indicates the desire to provide your employees the rightful salaries that we deserve in order to do the hard and rewarding work of educating the young minds of Fall River thank you next item up on the agenda is subcommittee updates tonight we have a subcommittee update from the our evaluation

subcommittee Shelley Pereira so the uh hello hello so the evaluation subcommittee met last week and we discussed evaluating the superintendent please um because she was hired in July going to take a two minute recess this ridiculous thank you because she was hired in July it shortens our re-evaluation period so we looked at adjusting the timeline as well as the evaluation process and those

will be presented tonight um I think the last two items on the agenda okay thank you shell uh next up is number item number five the superintendent's report superintendent Curley um the first thing I want to talk about are some upcoming holiday events um in the coming month we have uh many planned in the district and throughout the city and tonight I just wanted to take the opportunity to highlight three

of them in particular that really have become Staples of the holiday season and benefit our students directly and tremendously the first of these is the winter wonderland holiday wish fundraiser event that's scheduled for this Friday evening it's at six o'clock at the Eagle Event Center um every year it's extremely well attended and it's in a event that really brings Joy to the

entire Community attendees include staff from every school in the district as well as our partners in the community and it's a wonderful way to kick off the holiday season even though the event is not a follower a public schools event the checks if they are to be written um are made out to a the follower over holiday fund the event is very special to us in that 100% of the proceeds benefit the fall over public school

students helping um to provide them with gifts during the holiday season tickets of $40 they include appetizers and dinner and music um in a dance floor and I just again wanted to take an opportunity to encourage everyone and especially our staff to use this as an opportunity to make the holidays brighter for the children in our community any of the school principes or staff at our parent and Community

engagement Center can help secure your seat um another event I wanted to highlight that's um upcoming and really special is um on Saturday December 7th we have the children's holiday parade it's going to kick off um from Kennedy Park at 12:30 it's one of the largest parades in the region and organized by the holiday parade committee and the great of Fall River Recreation again it's an event made so special by the

fact that all of our schools are represented in the parade either on a decorated float or um marching with their school banners and of course um just like every parade our national champions marching band um will be there as well this is the 40th year of the parade and not one to miss so if you're not marching I want you to join thousands of people on the route for the sake of enjoyment and also to support

our students in their schools the last event is the fallover um Christmas in Fall rever concert um it's the sixth year for the event and this year will feature um some folks who might be household names Madison cello who is a finalist from season 25 of the voice um will be joined by Javier cologne the season one winner of The Voice it's for a night of Music um to celebrate the

season it will be held at dery High School on December 20th at 6:30 in the auditorium at dery high school tickets are only $10 um it could be a relatively inexpensive night and again um thanks to sponsorship from a partner Bristol County Savings um all of the proceeds will benefit our City's children our students through the law enforcement assisting families annual toy drive so

we would love to see people get out for that um on a much more um serious note but no less joyful um we are in um the middle of an air District review um basically you know we've been selected by um the department of Elementary and secondary Ed for a comprehensive District review during the 2425 school year um this review is facilitate facilitated by air the American institutes for research and is

a really valuable opportunity for all of us to reflect on the district's progress and identifies ways to uh strengthen performance for both our staff and students the idea is to provide actional feedback to the district on our practices um the report that we receive will identify strengths in areas for improvement that are aligned with Massachusetts District standards and it really Fosters progress

in leadership instruction student support and operational systems we're going to use uh feedback from this state report through air to inform the district's strategic plan over the next 3 to five years so this week um is the week for the review we have interviews and focus groups happening um in District departments and at schools instructional observations are happening across schools and there's also a um an

evaluation file review taking place where we have uh there Educators and administrator evaluations are being reviewed so to all of our staff and families and our students who are participating in focus groups this week I just want to say thank you um the information and insights that you share will really provide us with some invaluable input and um the feedback from Air will shape our Collective

future so thank you for that um the last piece of my update is a hiring update since our last meeting we've had 22 hires 17 new and five rehires among the 17 new hires we have um one assistant wrestling coach a guidance counselor an LPN eight PA professionals one part-time custodian one utility worker one speech language pathologist and three teachers and then among our five rehires we have

one Construction craft labor teacher one educational team chair one nurse one speech language pathologist and one um classroom teacher at the same time we've had 41 resignations nine retirements and 16 transfers within the district Mr May that's all um Mr Das thank you um I just have to have a question to concern about um the incident that happened at dery or around dery last week believe the 13th to the

15th um regarding the fights that took place and um I do have a couple concerns superintendent report I just want to hear from the superintendent on the incident not is that Pap on the agenda you have they have three items on three items on the agenda holiday activities hiring update and Air District review yeah Mr chairman you can go Mr a past practice has been that any events that happen

over the the last month that the superintendent reports on is fair game to be asked at a superintendent's report and that's what we followed under the superintendent report in the past any in information that's come back and forth which Mr Das is bringing up was an issue is fair game to be asked in the past as past practice to the superintendent report even if she doesn't put that on really yeah just a

question so um you know as a general update um I guess some of the things that I'd want to share is that there was uh an altercation after school um after uh dery High School let out over in uh the plaza it was off school campus it involved multiple people in the community dery students um RPA students we had students from charter schools and um other PE people from Fall River um so

I think the difficult part in all of this I just want to say for everyone is that it wasn't a school event right I think um what I've what I know to be true is that and um you I'm going to steal some words from someone one of my colleagues is that for our students in Fall River in in at dery high school I feel very comfortable saying that our our students we see the best of

them when they are in our school buildings and I think that a school like dery and just like many of our schools has systems and structures and high expectations in place for students where we really are seeing the best of them and we're supporting them to be the best what happened outside of school um certainly was does feel like an extension um of of a school day but it did happen after school hours um it was

a community situation that took place and uh we have obviously been um collaborating with the police around their investigations sharing what information that we have we know that there were multiple arrests um I also want to report that I know there was a lot of concern around moving the the game um Friday night to Saturday afternoon but you know given information given the experience of Thursday um you

know some of the kind of high stress events of many of our students in the district being arrested Friday um some information that was coming in coming in around kind of a possible extension of what had happened I think the decision was a sound one obviously because um I you know I had to make that decision but I think it was sound I think it had everybody's best interest in mind and

you know the great part is uh we were able to to get out there on Saturday for an unbelievable football game they won the game um it was just a that was also even though you know kind of sponsored by dery High School hosted by dery high school that was a wonderful Community event um that hosted you know our families families from another town and it was just you know just a really

fantastic event and then students were able to then go to homecoming that evening which by all accounts was a very positive experience as well thank you no and and I really do appreciate that superintendent I it's very important that the Public's aware of that as well the only two concerns that I have which I I raised um prior in an email I didn't receive a response yet um was the

administration aware um any threat of like a firearm made towards students or the school not that I'm aware of okay and um secondly the only concern that I have that was brought to me by parent there was a communication that went out by the thery admin on the on the 15th and um impertinent it said while this incident may not be directly while this incident is not directly connected to

our school Community I mean I just didn't understand um where that came from and the parent didn't either because it may or may not have been directly connected to happened near dery high school but um the only um comment I will say there's we need to investigate the root cause causes and you know help these students and help the situation um in any way that we can um I'll speak

more of this um in new business um I think we need to get our our heads together and maybe form some sort of task force to look into the root causes so I'll save that for new business but um we definitely need to do everything we can to address why this happened understand why this happened and figure out some solutions moving forward um I yield yeah I would I would actually just

propose and I understand understand your you know wish for a task force because it it really will take a community it will I mean what I said about our students um for the most part living up to very high expectations that we have in our schools and it will take a community so that we can prevent events like that in our community and and not that we don't want to partner we 100% want to

partner um so to address she wasn't finished yet yeah I just want to I mean we we want to partner with the community we are part of the community but I I just want to make it clear that um we need our partners as well I agree thank you Mr Cy so Mr Das I'm I'm I'm a little bit concerned by the nature of your comments at this moment because what you're doing

is you're implicating the school and only the school but as a matter of fact it's a shared concern with the community with the business is in the plaza with the police and with the school it's it's a community effort it's not just on the school so I wanted to clarify that for the public certification as well I yield Mr Mr M I respond quickly Mr Das no and as I just said it wasn't a concern again

I applaud the superintendent's response to the situation I received concerns that there may have been um a firearm involved or threats of a firearm that weren't that may or may not have been communicated but but again if the administration wasn't aware there nothing the administration can do if there ever is a threat of a firearm that is definitely the public edification to know but again that was just that's why

I brought up the issue and again I I had a concern about the I'm just responding to a complaint that was made directed at me um again it it was just a comment on the section that went out towards the community saying while it's not directly to related to our school community community we don't know that I just don't think it's fair that we say that it's all I wanted to say I wasn't

throwing the school under the bus but again we have concerns of Public Safety we need to address them and make sure we're doing the best for our students you Mr Bailey um so for me myself I do think it's it's a concern I think it's a concern and I don't think you're running from from it when you say it's a concern of the school and the community and we need to collaborate but I think we also

need to be careful when we're discussing some of these things in public because we don't know if there's any open investigations on the police end so I think we need to be very careful I think it's great to have the conversation I think we all know what happened not directly but I think it's also our job to help the schools and also like I said be careful what we're talking about on

this stage because we don't know who's involved and we don't know if it's an open investigation so I think we should tread lightly when we're when we're discussing this matter thank you Mr B Mr ago yeah just uh I did Witness some of the uh we didn't get much information because it wasn't necessarily a school event uh but I did watch the video of what happened and it's totally ridiculous and I'm not

placing blame on anybody but anybody that watches that video will say that's totally ridiculous that behavior is unacceptable for anybody to do so when we get a report that said there was 12 arrests I don't know what those arrests are was anyone my question would be does anybody charged with a felony I saw people getting kicked in the head while they're on the ground if there's any

students in my opinion that were charged with a felony they shouldn't be in our schools because that's the law that you can keep them out because what I saw on that video was unacceptable anywhere whether it's our kids are not so all I would ask is that if somebody has a felony that we tell them they're not coming back to school while you have a felony because that's the law that's all

I'm asking thank you I yield thank you thank you I do want to say something as someone that was up there both Thursday and Friday and uh have been over there when I was u a vice principal a number of times uh for fights that was not uncommon what's changed is the video which shows things you have to remember that as the superintendent said these were not all dery kids this was a

provoked allegation from some Outsiders coming over there for reasons but um I do I know my uh my colleague Mr Das um you know asks questions about weapons and stuff it reminds me of the question that you ask people is when did you stop beating your wife um that just inflames the situation if you have knowledge of it the only person he should be asking is the for of police department he

should be talking to them if he has knowledge of a weapon there I was there both days I didn't get that from anybody and I talked to probably 10 or 12 policemen that were there especially on Friday so uh I'm kind of a little uneasy with comments like that in this day and age when people are on hypertension whether it's from Facebook Tik Tok Instagram whatever if you have knowledge

of anything like that and I'm talking to the community tell the fora police department they were out there in force both days this thing exploded in our lap as many of the fights do in schools across the country but we can't respond to um somebody's whims on Facebook or someone's making comments on Instagram that's not how you police a city or you or you um police a school after a fight uh Bobby Bailey and

I were up there uh for a diamond game one night and uh I didn't see anything a ton ton ton of kids there walking around Milling having fun and that's what we want at our football games it's uh it's unfortunate this was a one-off but I don't know if this was initiated by dery kids or some outside agents the police are looking into it and I say we let them do their

job Mr chairman Mr dag just on that so for one I don't think that we have the authority to call the police to ask them questions as school committee we pose our questions to superintendent Curley she can get those answers I don't think you're trying to give us Authority to call the police department and ask for information uh I don't think that's what you mean but what I would ask is as we

go through this process we get a full report of exactly what happened because clearly we canceled a b a football game for a reason we not just because there was an issue postponed we postponed it for a reason let's not kid ourselves to think that there was no worry about violence and weapons let's not kid ourselves there's a reason why that was canceled now I'm glad it worked out I'm

glad the team won I'm glad everything worked out but let's not kid ourselves to think that there's not an issue relative to safety and weapons when we see what we saw there that's that was ridiculous that shouldn't be tolerated period I yield okay I I actually I don't know what else you have on that Fator Mr Das if you want to bring it up now while we're in the discussion I'd like to just

finish it up I don't want to go back to something that negative again if you have anything else you want to add off for now sure if I may well just just one thing um it's not it's negative it's unfortunately negative but it's important that we bring it up I I I and again if some something's on social media or if it's said anywhere it doesn't really matter the medium where

it's from if you see a um something that's bad like a threat of a firearm or it would be um from a scanner report or whatnot I I brought it to the superintendent's attention I brought it to the community's attention that should be looked at I heard from parents that's that's that's what they heard as well I I don't think it's um unreasonable just to bring it up especially since I

brought it up in an email um but I did hear the superintendent say she was looking possibly at some sort of Task Force if that's no I I think you mentioned a task force and I think that I think the I just saying that if there's work to be done whether via task force or whether there's work to be done we do want to partner in it um sure if there's something and the answer the

mayor's question if there's something we could do do um working with our Community Partners and you know just finding out the root causes maybe we can talk offline maybe put something in subcommittee we could is that a question for me no it wasn't a question it was a statement we can just talk offline do something a subcommittee yeah um yeah so I I won't bring anything up for new business tonight so I'll you okay all

right thank you thank you Mr Das um next up we have six sets of minutes if anybody wants to hold or discuss any of them I know you all Rie reviewed motion approve all motion to approve all I have a motion to Second any discussion Deb please call the rooll and then I'll read the minutes so everybody knows what we're talking about seven sets I'm sorry seven sets my mistake oh miss the last

one go ahead uh Mr Cory Mr Dr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr Cory yes lar M Carrera yes yes the minutes we were talking about was the parent community outreach subcommittee meeting 8:19 approval of the regular school committee 99 the minutes of the special meeting of the school committee 9:30 approval of the minutes for the special education alternative education Early Childhood

subcommittee meeting on 109 approval of the minutes policy subcommittee meeting on 10:15 minutes of the special meeting of the school committee on 10:15 and finally the minutes of the grievance subcommittee on 10:29 thank you item number eight is a approval of travel requests again we have a number of travel requests um anyone have any questions on to approve motion to approve second I have a motion to

approve and a second all travel requests any discussion on travel requests Deb would you please call the rooll Mr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr Cory yes yes AR M Pera yes mayor yes item number nine is the acceptance of donations motion approve second I have motion to approve and a second any discussion on donations Deb would you please call the role Mr AGA yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr Cory yes

Miss ly Miss Pereira yes mayor Coogan yes um superintendent Curley on behalf of the Fall River Public Schools I request um the acceptance of a $4,000 donation from the EOS Foundation the donation is for eight schools lerno Sylvia Henry Lord Community School Doran Community School fonsica Morton Spencer bordon and vas each school will receive $500 this donation will be spent at the

discretion of each School's principal and on behalf of der dery athletic director Brad buston I request the acceptance of three $500 scholarship donations in George in the names of George and Evelyn McDonald the donation is to be used for three dery High School seniors who play on this year's baseball team very nice thank you item number 10 is the approval of Grants again we have one two three

four five six seven grants does anybody want to hold on any of the seven Mr Das uh for over um opiate settlement fund forever opiate settl it my last one any other holds on Grant Mr Cory just uh idea Part B and idea part C first two first two okay three and four and you want to hold three and four Mr cor pleas all right so the only one we're going to approve is um four um

three and four five and six open s ed Grant and 2024 school year Grant can I to approve I have a motion do I have a second why don't we vote on those two please Deb Mr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr D yes Mr Cory yes Larry Pera yes Mayan yes so why don't we start from the top with the Ida grants Part B first so um so Mr chairman I'm I'm not looking to hold it

up I just want an explanation from miss obenchain and miss faras on on the nature of these grants I'm just curious to learn a little bit more about them if I can ask um Miss Obin chain and Miss various up at the podium the first grant part B that's pretty sizable Grant so that is our entitlement grant for special education so we use that Grant to fund some salaries to fund

a lot of the um contracted partners that we have to support our teachers in um their professional development um we use that for supplies in the classro um just different all things related to special education and building the best possible program we can for our students thank you Miss farious sure so the other part is just a subset of the entitlement Grant there's a portion of

the money that is set aside specifically for students ages three to five so that's why it's a significantly smaller amount of money and that is similar to um the 240 side of it spent primarily on salary and then also some materials those are federal grants that's great thank you very much I Mr Agia Mr Oben chain do you think that if you were to predict looking to the Future these grants are going to go up

or are they going to go down gosh I wish I had a crystal ball Mr aiar but I can give you my opinion that they're going to go down so based on the history of what's been happening I I second Mr 's comments the only reason why I mentioned it is not obviously we're going to accept the Grant and you know but when you look at it and you look at the details in there you're

paying for several team chairs and like you're paying for services that are cor services to the kids in this District that's a big number when that number gets cut by the federal government which we're probably going to have cuts across all of the federal government what do we do with those people that's a rhetorical question of course but I just think that we all need to know and be aware that

we're going to get less money in the future than we're getting now we're not going to get more so thank you I yield I I I think I'm sorry Mr Das Fair brief question through you to the superintendent if we can just get like an update on what um reli like what um reliabilities and what support we get from the Department of Education because of everything that's being discussed we should be prepared for you know certain

cuts to the budget um I think the committee should be prepared for that ahead of time so maybe in the near future we can just get an update on what we rely on from the Department of Education maybe grant funding um certain um curriculum or or just I don't know the answer just anything just so we're aware that would be great thank you uh okay so I get a motion motion to approve

B and C Mr dice yes motion to second I have a motion to second on the first two B and C any further discussion on those two items Deb would you please call the role Mr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr D yes Mr Cory yes m l Miss Perera yes may yes our next item was number three just a brief question super could probably answer this it's just for the green school I'm

wondering why we don't have them at others and maybe we do and it's just not in this because we have 21st century programs at other schools but this one is specifically for the green did we have others or is this just no no other ones are eligible I'm yeah I'm not sure why there's just one we do have other programs so I'm not sure why this one is

now yes I think this is I think this is the um exemplary Grant and it may just be that they were up at this time and so other schools might be up at a at a different time in the cycle um yeah if you just look at that when I looked at the list it was some from all different cities but whatever and then it was we do have we do have multiple sites that

run 21st century um and green is an exemplary site and so I know this is just where they're at in their their cycle right now and I think there was a correction on the one I read by hand it was 60,000 instead of 45 it's I believe it's 60,000 I believe it's 45,000 during the year in 15,000 to support summer programming y but if we're accepting it as a grant we should accept it as the

factual amount yes so I'd like to make a motion to approve it at 60 Grand second I have a motion to Second any further discussion on item number three um um de would you please call the r Mr yes Mr B yes Mr yes Mr Cory yes m l m Perera yes yes next one Mr uh AA so my question on the Early Childhood uh Early College I've asked this question every

year um I believe I've been told various answers um there's a stien paid for administrators and I've in the past indicated that I don't think that should be happening um but once again it's before us with stiens for administrators looking for some info um so just to um more specifically talk about what the stiens are paying for that might answer your question um so the early colge support Grant is an

entitlement Grant to support our early college program and we are awarded 75,000 65,000 of that 75,000 is for stiens uh the majority of uh the stiens are or the entirety of the stiens are for direct and comprehensive support uh to stien our Educators on their prep periods uh to support students either through their one goal class directed tutoring or Educators uh being a dery support teacher in a classroom that uh

has a college professor so that's during periods five and six every single day uh at cut can we just cut to the chase please yeah so um the uh the only administrator who's being stiped is the Early College coordinator counselor and that's if uh potentially there is a Saturday open house and we're going to take a group of students to a college field trip or it could be uh after school some times we do tutoring hours

uh where students can drop in and work on support you know after school hours so that's the administrator um who's being stipended through this uh Grant um the others are teachers or isls uh who are being paid to directly support uh students so you you you try to it says 150 hours each for administrators tell me why we don't have enough administrators at that high school to handle this I just don't understand uh

for anything for the administrators is for after school hours either weekend or uh evening or after school but the early college program is in school during the school day so these are special uh field trips if it's on the weekend if it's after school it's typically office hours tutoring where students can drop in after the school day is over so you're paying administrators to do tutoring for

after school is that what you're saying teacher teachers mainly right so I'm asking a question it's not complicated it says you're paying two administrators $40 an hour 150 hours each for $112,000 what is the administrators doing for that money and I just don't understand it I've wrote this up every single year this comes up we have over $2 million in administration at dery high school and we have to pay a stien

to run this early college program now you're saying something about after school on the weekends all this other stuff that would mean that you got to because you're chaperoning something which would be a logical answer but you got it listed here as $150 now I've said this over and over it just seems like we in this District keep on paying stiens stiens and stiens and more stiens maybe that somebody needs to give

the message that we don't have the money that you all think that we continue to do whether it's in Grants or not I don't understand you've not given any information to me relative to why we need to pay and I believe if we look back I said the same thing last year or that was going to be addressed or no administrators were in I don't understand why we're paying administrators when we're paying

administrators good money to work doing all the different things we have administrators that deal with everything and I'm one that stands up for those administrators and supports those people but enough's enough already I just don't get it every time I look somebody else is getting a stien in this District to do extra work and it should be part of their regular job in my opinion so I I'm not going to be

supporting this for that reason Billy College is something that we've always kind of debated whether it's good bad or whatever I'm for dual enrollment I'm not for necessarily all this but I'm not voting for this just for the administrative piece I yield Mr D thank you and just on the the point of the stiens because I also had that concern as well I think the administration should look into and I believe mayor

correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the your Administration has done a good job at this that getting rid of stiens and just including everything within their job description um I I think that's a similar approach that we should consider for the next budget season um like my colleague I won't support that for that reason as well we should um just have everything up upfront and transparent what you're going to do in

your job description not have all these extra stiens have it all within one the city does it City's doing a good job at that and we should um follow that on the school side I yield you any further discussion on the Early College support Grant uh do I have a motion a second to approve motion to table second I have a motion to table and I have a second any discussion on the

motion to um point of information no discussion oh I'm sorry thank you there Dr I appreciate it letter Mr Dr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr D yes Mr Cory yes M Perera yes mayor no um the last one I believe we only have one left it's um Mr das's hold on the Far River opioid settlement fund Mr Das thank you if I if I could ask um Miss bronhard just for the public

certification just to give a brief presentation on what these funds are going to be used for thank you because last week we didn't have a chance when it was on the agenda as a standing item Alone um but the past program uh will is an OPI funded program that we were able to receive funds for through a very competitive process at the city level and the school department was afforded um the opportunity to open this

alternative to school suspension program with in partnership with the boys and girls club in addition to Star Family Services as well all providing therapeutic counseling some proactive treatment um assessments as well as academic support so that students that are potentially eligible for suspension at school in Li of being suspended and going home they will be able to go to the Past program at the Boys and Girls

Club to have their day count receive services not be suspended from school not be marked absent from school and then be provided the wraparound supports Upon returning back to school this will also involve our families because without our families our students will only be so successful on their Journey um and so families will also have access to some of the resources that will be

available um through the Family Resource Center and other communi uh agencies across the city thank you I know you mentioned the past program in the past um that that that's not necessarily for like the opioid um that's not NE that's in general that's a general program not necessarily just for like the funding source is the opioid Grant right that does not mean that students have to be engaging with

opioids to be eligible for the Pass Program correct okay and there there's no issue um in terms of receiving this grant we're not going to run into repercussions for that because it's not necessarily an opioid related no we need all eligible criteria okay and U we receiv receiv These funds from the city we did okay I thank you we just as a point of clarification also we will be partnering with diamond it's a two-year

grant our goal is because the opioid funding uh is for the city not just for Fall River Public Schools there are a number of schools here in the city so for year one it will be those schools in fall river which are Stone RPA and dery and we will also be partnering with diamond in year one and and then moving into year two assuming that we can get funded for

year two we would love to look to extend this conversation with the charter schools both Argy and Atlantis so that all students in Fall River um in Li of being suspended from school will be able to be provided resources and support through the program specifically motion to approve I have a motion second I miss do you want to talk Mr AA second question I got a motion second on hold Mr AGA just a a question

on sustainability I know we talk in here is year one and potentially year two what is the long-term um I don't know how much money is in that settlement has the city committed to multiple years what is uh because when we hire people now we're on the hook for those folks um so just looking at so it's a contractual position um and as we know we always anti you know it's unfortunate but it is

a reality that there are very often openings in the world ofal across the district so should funding at the end of the FIS at the end of the calendar year be cut we would look to move those folks should they so choose to move into a district level position however long-term funding um we are going to be looking to secure additional funds we do believe that we will be able to get some

really strong outcomes as it relates to these this program and we are very confident that there will be some uh folks through Grant funded additional opportunities out there that we will be able to apply for and be the recipients of so we're going to start slow to go fast but the idea is that we're going to leverage the funds that we've been granted and then we will look for additional funds to keep it going if

it's not something that we can sustain within the operating budget yeah I just think it's something to look at I think makes sense to if the city does they only have a part of money and if once it's gone it's probably gone but just sustainability is is important especially now given uh the budgets moving forward that if we're everything you presented at the subcommittee and here was valid good positions good ideas

all that stuff but at the end of the day if we don't have money to pay people we got to figure out a way to do it so thank you for your work we got a motion to second votee I do want to say a couple things on this though um this is part of the city's effort with the opioid funds which came from the uh Sackler settlement um it's

going to go for about the next 15 to 20 years Mr agar so I think we'll be able to keep it rolling for a while I don't know if we'll be able to sustain the levels the first checks out were extremely large a couple of million dollars but uh I do want to compliment Amy and the Fara public schools because as she said this was a very compe Grant we we had a number of our partners

throughout the community that came in I was not on the panel to uh evaluate the projects uh but everybody that left um that left the meeting and they were in the conference room put the fora Public Schools proposals is the top uh the top program they wanted to fund it's going to start with it started already working in with Chris Herron the curriculum is going to change and it's a problem that

we're going to partner with we hope before we're done all the schools Charter Schools Catholic schools and the public schools across the district the money was is going to go to far kids and that's the way I look at it and I'm I want to again compliment Amy and the team with the superintendent they brought this tremendous proposal to the table that people were ready to check off on that night so compliments to you

Mr Das thank I I just want to continue um what the mayor just said um this is a really good proposal and something very serious within our city and um and again to the city I believe believe um this was started when we signed on to a lawsuit I believe um former judge Macy was the person who signed on to this and um yeah this is I really I'm really excited to see this this will continue

for um a long period of time as well and making sure I think going especially in the years going forward um we move to education really support education on um the dangers of some of the drugs that are out there I yield thank you all right so I have a motion a second Deb can call the role on the opioid settlement funding for the school Mr yes Mr Bailey

obain Mr D yes Mr Cory yes M lar Mr Pera yes mayor yes um next item up is approval of contracts um we have a number of contracts um to we have the new ones first and then we'll do the uh others does anybody want to hold on any of the 1 2 3 4 5 SE the last one the last one uh how do you say that Mr AG seamons seamons I believe all right Industries

uh we have the other group any conversation on those I'll take a motion second May I'm sorry um are we just doing new or continuations we're doing the new ones first Mr Das and then we're going to go to the uh Grant contracts that continue on and then the special contract okay I have the new the new batch first okay I have a hold on the last one by Mr aguar the rest yeah the facilities

contracts oh all of them okay three different cont I got you they broke them down to three things grants contracts o facilities contracts only facilities contracts only so let's do that batch first second I have a motion on the first batch facilities contract gr that call the RO yeah yeah holding we're holding the last one cuz he asked for seens second Mr D seconded it just s Mr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr Cory

yes Perera yes mayor yes the next one is called Grant contracts Apple for education no seamons oh I'm stay with me Mr a Mr go back to Sean I forgot you so the uh only I'm just looking at the timing of uh the um po dates and uh obviously we know we had a fire at Spencer bordon and when this came up and it says spenc bordon it's related to

Fire and that begs the question of uh the time but as I'm looking at it it looks like it was in July and then now it's before us I'm just looking for some clarity on sort of how this so so does have anything to do with the fire no it has nothing to do with the fire the the system needed to be upgraded panel and devices uh Seaman's um proprietary system so when we change

devices in that system we change only with the company uh everything has its own IP address and um the system is very um proprietary as I said so the the contract and um the planning of the work started early um but the actual work uh took place in August on the on the uh construction part of it that work was finished up before school started so this is not something that just happened

just coincidence that happened after exactly yes time coincidence what and was this for the it says panel is that fire panel fire panel so fire panel and devices so in the the question I had on there we got a report from the fire that it seemed like everything was normal yes um but I'm not sure if there was more to the story but if there was a fire inside the where the fire panel is wouldn't

that set off the alarm so it did typically it did set the alarm off the the head the the the sprinkler head went off the smoke alarm went off all of the systems operated within seconds to minutes and then we read something somewhere about somebody having to didn't pull the fire alarm but then they got the vice principal and then the fire alarm got pulled is it not at that point the alarm went was already

going off it was that quick it was it went off automatically is my point whatever I read about somebody system went off no the system went off automatically should click it off exactly automatically yes and then um the other thing I heard was that there was a mess in there in the boiler room or wherever this is I don't even know where it is um but maybe we superintendent we can get a report on

any other issues that came up as the as they were addressing the fire was there any other issues that's all thank you I yield can I get a motion to approve on on SE motion to approve I have a motion to approve sorry one more can I ask one more question Mr Cho I know you said it's proprietary and is that mean that we can't make it not proprietary by buying new equipment or just too much

money it's just a very expensive Endeavor um the equipment itself uh is one piece of this but the the actual rewind Hing you know the system is very expensive so wouldn't be cost benefit to obviously we shouldn't have proprietary things if we don't if we can help it if we can avoid it yes but unfortunately um in some s in some instances such as this one um this system um also exists in Sylvia and in

the green school so we will be doing an upgrade similar to this um in the next fiscal year thank you R may I ask a quick question Mr Das um where would this um device be installed is it going to go where the boiler room is no this device the main panel is in the um main lobby uh on at Spencer on the first floor near the principal's office and then the devices are everywhere there

are devices in the building we all exchanged uh onto the new panel okay and just quickly to Mr agar's point just going forward if there if there was like any debris left in the boiler room or anywhere just making sure that so there were there were insulation there were insulation um old insulation that was piled in in a section uh of that room uh there was some filter boxes um that were in the room

but most of the time these filter boxes are in boiler rooms they were up on a table there were a couple on the floor that shouldn't been on the floor and other than that the The Boiler Room needed to be swept um but it's hard after the fact to see there's a lot of water damage in that particular room um un fortunately we didn't lose anything other than the water heater um but there was some water

damage in the room and affected those boxes and all of that stuff was cleaned up the same day um that the incident happened did that um directly like relate to the fire no okay no I thank you so I have a motion a second on Seaman I need a second second Mr Das Deb would you please call the role yes Mr Bailey yes Mr yes Mr Cory y m l m

Carrera yes may yes next one up is Apple for education motion approve I have a motion to approve second I have a motion to Second any discussion Deb call the role Please Mr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr yesy yesy Perera yes yes next page special education contracts I have two Landmark School Whitney Academy motion to approve second I have a motion to approve both any discussion on those two this is a quick

question this is just a new not the continuations this is not the continuation special education okay are you so there the two at the top landmark and Whitney I have a motion to Second discussion Deb please call the role Mr yes Mr yes Mr yes Mr Cory yes yes yes now this is the continuation of the grant contracts at the top um we can take those two first if you want Hill

for literacy both motion appr like the hold I like to place a hold on both you want to put a hold on both so we'll get a hold on both I have a motion to approve though can I get a second on the motion I get a second but now discussion Mr Das um if real quickly um if we don't need I don't need it tonight but if we can get some data on um

how effective this is um whenever I see these um consult Consultation Services come about um I always look for ways that we could save money and see if they're um valid obviously they wouldn't be before as if the administration didn't believe they were valid but if we can just see some data to back that up um that would be SW thank you Mr D just I I want to be really clear that um this

grant funding is specific to these kinds of services so um we didn't get um a literacy Grant with um the ability to write for you of anything under that umbrella the the grant is actually specific to these Services these contracted Services yeah right just looking just looking at it and I was looking at it on board docs just want to see um how useful all then but we can we we we can get you some

data I just I just wanted to speak specific to this sure this clean I'm voting to approve it just so we could see it going forward sure Mr AG I think that's a valid valid point just to say we we spend a lot of money on training leadership training all this stuff so I think it'll be a good practice to get something to say this is the benefit of

that Grant I think it'll be good I yield I have a motion a second Deb uh please call the role M yes Mr Bailey Mr Das yes Mr Cory yes Mr yes mayor K yes okay then we go into spe special education contracts we have a number of them Mr Cory I just want to know in general Mr chairman I mean there are considerable amount of special education contracts here and some for very high prices I

just like to ask the superintendent you know are we getting our the bank for our buck uh with all of these extra services that are helping our students is there a per pupil rate or does it go according Case by case so um I I'm sure Mrs um Oben chain will have more to say but there are rates assigned for Depend and they're dependent on the placement itself I

think in terms of bay for the buck we have a responsibility to meet the needs of our students with disabilities and when we're not able to do that here in the district we have the responsibility right to send them um out of district for services yeah cuz I question it Miss Oben Shan because I mean it's pretty considerable you know so it it's also a revelation of the needs that that are

within our district so right we have about 130 students currently that are out of district and it is simply because like Dr Curley said that we have tried to meet their needs in our district but they require a level of care that we just can't do here certainly I I can see some of the places you know that we're receiving help from sure uh it's it it's a price that probably fluctuates from year to year

depending on our demographic is that safe to say because it's considerable amount of money oh it's definitely a considerable amount of money it's it's really the prices that the um placement set they give us their rates and it's it depends on the type of the the the needs of the kids that are there do they have a onetoone asso assciated with them par professional do they have nursing care do they have

related Services all of those pieces go into the tuition how many days some of these programs go 12 months of the year sure do some of the occupational therapists within our district serve some of these cases as well they don't go into the a of District placements as far as the a district schools they those schools typically have their own service providers so they don't typically go um

there that answers my questions thank you I yield any other questions Mr AG the um on that maybe we um just for the edification of everyone that we get circuit breaker um reimbursements and I think sometimes people just see that we got a few million dollars in circuit breaker and it just seems like oh good that's great but there's a reason why you get the circuit breaker reimbursement because of the cost that

of each of these children so I think maybe just a quick summary of what is the circuit like this comes out to a lot of money but the government gives us circuit breaker back the state funds circuit breaker not at the rate that they should so I think by you highlighting it for us we can then advocate for them to say that should be fully funded so that we could not have

to put budget money in so I just think one pager sure I can certainly get you the circuit breaker I'm not sure if anybody had any holdes but we never got to that part Mr Mayor I yield thank you Mr Das um can we place holes on um the judge Rottenberg Center in South Coast educational collaborative okay so we got a hold on Judge renberg where Mr Das where is um judge Rottenberg educational I think

they Chang I got you on that one where's the South Coast one um towards the bottom of the page um it's oh the very bottom 1.9 million the very bottom yes okay those two any others I'd like a motion to approve all the others and a second motion approve second de any discussion please call a rooll Mr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr D abstain Mr Cory okay M

lar M Pera yes mayor yes now the two we have a hold on Judge Rottenberg Center Mr Das sure um and first of all Mr Oban I want to thank you um for taking this very seriously I know we've spoken um prior um address many concerns that I have and others have had and um I have um a lot of faith and trust in you and um making sure nothing bad basically nothing bad happens um to

our forer students when they go to institutions such as the jrc um I do have a few questions and um concerns so I see um for judge Rottenberg Center um judge Rottenberg educational I would say the jrc I'm more used to saying that for FY 23 um the tuition was 98,000 and change and um going into this year and correct me if I'm wrong um we're up to 242,000 um and I'll just try to find an

explanation as to why the big increase in tuition so I'd have to go back to revisit what the 2023 tuition um was specifically so I can tell you that Mr Sullivan our chief um compliance officer went and observed at Jr and was able to talk to some of the um staff and directors over there so along with the base um tuition which is around 170,000 179,000 the student does have a one to

one so that is the additional increase I just don't know if the student had that same Staffing last year the 2023 I'd have to just go back and check our our records so you definitely know it was not an increase in tuition they're just not charging more for I'm sure the tuition did go up like it goes up every for every school but it didn't go up that dramatically I can tell you that the tuition was

189 which and then like 66,000 or something was for the one: one par I believe Mr Sullivan can answer I did pull the um information for last year as well and I didn't see as much of a start I'm sorry what's your position I never met you before J Chief compliance officer for special nice to meet you um I did pull the the information earlier today just for a quick review and I

didn't notice the start contrast in the financials so I I mean I'd be happy to go back and look just to Compare the numbers from last year to this year um because the the figure that you gave for last year's expenditure doesn't sound accurate um but I I will absolutely look at that okay and um I don't know who has the answer to this question um is and maybe this something we we have we

should look into in my op opinion is there any way we can determine um if we can just not do business with um an organization and if um the uh Department of um Department's name is um DCF um if they make a placement is it do we have any say as a district to dispute that I don't know who who would have the answer to that so when a student is placed by

DCF we are responsible for that educational piece of it so we don't fund the total placement we just F fund their schooling we've consulted with Michael Joyce and we it is Our obligation um to fund that when they are placed there on the students placement page it does say that the student was placed by a state agency not by us there when we engage in a cost share however we have made it very well

known to DCF that is not something that Fall River this is not um a placement that Fall River would like our students to go to if at all possible but I think I've shared with you sometimes these students have been waiting for placements in um hospitals for months and months and months so this is the only place that will be able to meet their needs sure um I'm going to um make

a motion here I'm going to make a motion that we approve the full allocation of funds and at this school committee go on the record condemning electric shock therapy I'll make that in form of motion I'm sorry time out can I say something second okay go ahead V and then I'll say something I I do want to say can I say something yes go ahead I'm Miss Sor rules listen I hold on a second hold on

a second please please just a point of clarification when a person makes a motion right someone needs to second the motion to have a discussion I am not trying to shut down Miss perrera so every time I say something she starts BL she didn't say anything oh she did so I seconded it so that we can have a discussion that's all I have a motion a second Miss Pera I'm very well of how

things work I think my reaction was more I can't believe I have to have this conversation again so I'm going to give my piece on this because I don't think Colin you were here when I spoke to it last time was in the audience but sorry I didn't mean to interrupt no no just my opinion my opinion on the health care of individuals that are not me and that is that it's not my

business now the reason I say that is because I have been people have reached out to me who work for DCF very concerned questioning why Fall River is not providing the education that we're legally and morally obligated to do and I simply say that we have a difference of opin opinion up here that's all here's what the problem is this is what they say now these are the people

now you can we can sit here and believe every DCF worker and every person who puts kids in these place just horrible people but we know that's not true because just like the Educators that we here today social workers don't do it for the money it's a really really hard job and they do it because they have a passion to help we have kids there right now who by

the way in case anyone wants to know are doing really really fantastic there and a thriving thriving these are kids who haven't thrived anywhere in a very long time and let me remind you that we and Fall River could not provide them the services they needed unfortunately their needs are so wide and we don't have the ability to provide those children what they need now we can have a conversation outside

of this regarding electroshock therapy which literally has nothing to do with what's going on here because miners do not get electroshock therapy and the last time I checked we only provide educational needs to minors so and even beyond that even beyond that even if we say we don't want it for minors we don't I'm going to I'm going to say nobody should have it even adults I asked my colleagues to actually

actually research the history of electroshock therapy I do not personally it's not not not a choice I would personally make for myself or my children but I'm not going to sit here and play judge and jury to people who want to choose their own health care needs so believe it or not if you do research into electroshock therapy you'll see that there are five states in the country that still allow it and you

will see that adults are signing up for it because they believe it helps does it cure all their ailments no it does not but does it assist some to function in society and better their lives yes it does so I'm not going to sit here and condemn a health care choice that people have a right to make adults adults because that's what we're talking about have a right to make now

with that being said let's talk about children that's fine I'm a parent I'll be damned if somebody's going to tell me the healthcare my child needs I don't care who you are if you think you know my child better than me you are wrong and now we go in to say well DCF that's not apparent again I know many DCF workers and I respect their job just as I do the Educators here I

respect their knowledge and I respect that they know that child way better than anybody on this stage does and they know what is best for that child so we can sit here and have our own personal opinions about Healthcare right we could sit here and have a com we could sit and have a debate about vaccinations for Pete's sake the reality is everyone has their own choice you choose not no big deal to me you choose

to no sweat your health care is your choice the health care of your child is your choice we here on the school committee should not be making Healthcare decisions about our students cuz quite frankly it's detrimental God forbid we eventually stop paying this and those kids who are actually thriving right now get removed from a place that they're doing well in from adult relationships that

they've established to help them through their mental health needs because we're mental health is health so I hope we all understand that too we can't separate them this isn't like uh there's no difference whether it's we're talking about some a kid who's neurode divergent or a kid who has a cardiac issue it's a kid who needs help period And I would encourage anybody here like the gentleman down there to go visit the

school go visit I will tell you one thing there are I I have I've worked in many facilities such as this and I have not found one that's perfect not one Hospital's perfect not one school is perfect but you have to find the right spot for these children and these children again I'm going to repeat thriving there so when we have conversations about opinions on electroshock therapy I don't

care that's that's all well and good have those opinions but deal with it in your own life our job right here is to do what we need to do and I feel very confident that the students we have at that school are getting what they need that school specializes in neurode Divergent kids at the highest level this is a specialty that you can not find everywhere I wish you could I wish they

were more places but they're not and you have kids that kicked out of this kicked out of that kicked out of this where are they going to go anybody want to give me your address are you willing to foster because these kids require so much care so I understand and I respect that I do I truly respect your opinion everyone's opinion on here um believe it or not but I just don't think it's your job to

give an opinion on on someone's Healthcare and certainly not Someone's Child our job is to provide their education so I'm not going to condemn any form of therapy that even if it only helps one person it helps one person it's just not my job and I I don't feel comfortable doing that so with that I yield M Mr Das then you Mr Das and Mr AAR thank you uh Mr chair chair again I

respect the colleague's um opinion to my right and I respect her passion um believe there was one I would dispute some of the claim especially that minors um cannot receive electric shock therapy at the jrc I I believe we should have um look into that I I I believe that's otherwise um secondly um no one was making the argument and or even making the motion or anything that the that the

school committee's made making decisions for others um or Healthcare decisions for others that that was never the argument that was never discussed it was it was a good argument for um something that was never brought up um and I would agree with a lot of things you just said um with that being said um electric shck therapy it was um condemned by United Nations it was um condemned by many um

human rights organizations and and again and I completely and the reason I made the motion to approve this because I have full respect and I have full confidence in Miss obain and her um Administration to make sure our students are um being taken care of T being taken care of well and with with that being said I I don't want I'm not going to put anyone on the spot but from

conversations I've had with some in the administration that everyone I think a lot of people know that J jrc is not somewhere you want to go someone um say someone please some someone tell me if I'm wrong but at the same time this school committee I believe has an obligation to stick up what's right and to and all I'm saying is we just go on the record saying that we condemn the

use of electri shck therapy it's not a good thing to be using on students it's been misused by that organization I do have concerns about sending for students to that organization but again I'm trying to balance the um the need here and it's a legitimate need and I've again spoken to the administration on this and I have their complete confidence but at the same time the school committee should go

on the record for something good and we should condemn electric shock therapy I yield um Mr AGA was next I might have missed it did you mention that this was how many students this tuition was for how many students this tuition is for one student right now one student yes so if we hear that they meaning plural are doing very well at this program we have one student I just want to clarify that we are funding

one student there are two students from Fall River um at jrc the second student was placed there at least a year ago fully funded by DCF yeah no I I understand so I think we just need to um this motion would do nothing but simply reiterate what you've already told everyone related to that based on last year we had a bill we wenter paying the bill we all get it and

we're opposed to shock therapy as a behavioral intervention this is not what you if you Google if you look up something and say ECT other stuff that's used with people with mental illness that's not what this is they call it shock therapy this is different this is a behavioral intervention for kids so that's the difference between what you would look at when you say there is some

some uh technologies that are out there to try to say ECT this is not what this is this is for a behavioral intervention and then when we you already said you talked to DCF they're very well aware of what's happening is there any students that we're not paying for currently we're refusing to pay for that they're not they're getting services and we're not paying we have not been asked to pay

for the second student that's there yet so we have not refused anybody so therefore we are not not paying anyone for their services at this so I'd asked the superintendent to try to communicate with whoever Miss Pereira from DCF talked to that said we are not getting we're not paying the bill and please communicate with them have a meeting whatever you're got to do to be very clear that that's not true a true

statement just like we would do with anyone else correct a record to say that we are not doing that so if DCF or their workers are calling school committee members to try to say that we are not doing what we need to do to pay people we need to correct that because that's obviously not the case so I support this motion because we've done the same thing before this student didn't have anywhere else

to be placed and trusting your professional judgment you've been there you visited trusting Mr Sullivan you people know what it is and at the end of the day when you come to us and say we have to pay this bill because nowhere else can service this child It's Our obligation than to pay the bill so I'm going to vote Yes for Mr TI's motion but I don't think it's anything more than

what we've already done last year paying the bill with that I miss Pro I'm glad you made a point there is a difference and which is what I think Collins Mr Das was saying because I'm I'm not incorrect they're not using that shock behavior therapy on minors but other therapy can be used on miners if they go through a process of going to call in a rigar roll of things so this isn't something that's

directly happening number one number two what I said was accurate we we voted here I voted no but I'm pretty sure we can look back we voted that we didn't want DCF remember so before I think Mr Corey and Mr Das were here we had voted that we told DCF we're no longer going to pay for kids at jrc so don't put them there if you put them there we're not

paying for it and we voted for it so yes we have a kid there we're not paying for and DCF is and eventually they may say this isn't right and then what happens to that child the bottom line is people are there because it's the last place for them to go so what I said wasn't inaccurate it's totally accurate we have kids there we're not paying for but I'm glad that I have that we

have support to pay this now that's great great I appreciate it without i y okay I I um I do want to say that um I was told by one of the teachers that came to my house um from the jrc that no students in the last eight years have gotten any um of the electric shock therapy at all it is for adults over 22 with am I right on that

with consent as a as a treatment option sure and yes and for any if they were going to go to court to petition the use of what they call the GED for a minor it would have to be on the students IEP and that means that Us in Fall River would be the ones proposing that and I assured this committee last year I will say it again this year we are not going to put that

on anyone's IEP okay um but I also think it's important that everybody understands too that for all students in out of District placements someone from my team make sure that we visit each placement at least yearly we complete a monitoring form that um is given to us uh guidelines from d uh from um desie and we make sure that we put our eyes on our students every single year okay so I have do I have two

motions here one to approve the funding and another for the electric shock uh I made it in one motion Mr Mayor um well it already was a motion to approve the funding if you want to add another motion on Mr Mayor if I if I may I made the motion to approve the allocation in addition to that we condemn the use of the electric shock therapy as described by Mr agar that that was one motion he

had put a hold on it so this is his motion there is no other motion he put a hold on it and Mr D said he wanted to make it with the with this letter attached to it that's I don't I don't like attaching peripheral things to a motion to pay for a kid services that I don't know enough about um I don't want to chip the kid because I don't know enough about electric shock

therapy people are talking about mushrooms whatever the future holds who knows um I would rather vote on the funding and then vote on the motion but I'll do whatever you want call huh just roll call yeah go ahead Deb M yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr Cory yes are we I'm confused as to what this says this a double motion that's that's motion uh well it's one motion

with two parts pay the bill and uh we don't like electric shock there so if can I ask a question am I Mr we're in mid we're in a mid rad call can I ask a question about the vote if this if I vote no and it goes no am I allowed to make a motion just to approve the funding because I don't think we I agree with you yeah that's how I feel can I do

that or no if not you know what yes just pay for it M mayor cgan no no and the last one Mr Das was the South Coast educational collaborative thank you just very quickly um I'm in support of the contract obviously U and I I just want to say um just want to re reiterate um the concerns I made in the past just making sure and same with the jrc as

well but you can make this with any one of these if we're sending our students to an institution we got like um Mr obain just said making sure we have our eyes and making sure there's ever any issue that arises making sure we have the proper surveillance to one make sure there's no dispute of the facts and two to make sure this district is fiscally sound from any um litigation or any

complaint um and I have full trust that we're working on that I yield a motion to approve second second have a motion to Second de call the rooll please the last one South Coast bottom the last that's what I needed to know okay Mr ARA yes Mr Bailey Mr Das yes Mr Cory yes Miss lar M Pereira yes mayor Coogan yes next item up is the committee of the whole item number one is a discussion of

vote to approve the selection and appointment of John vascal attendant office I have a motion a second any further discussion on the the new attendance officer Deb please call the role Mr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr Cory yes Miss Lar M Pereira yes mayor Coogan yes 122 is a discussion vote to approve the selection and appointment of Kelly madas motion motion second I have a motion a second on Kelly Medeiros as a

nurse for the district discussion Deb call the role Please Mr AGA yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das abstain Mr Cory yes M lvy Mr Pereira yes mayor kouan yes 123 is a discussion and vote to approve the use of tables and chairs from the district for the holiday fund organization accept second I have a motion to approve the use of the chairs for the fall of a holiday fund I have a

motion to Second discussion Deb call the role Please Mr AG yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr Cory yes m larvey m Pereira yes mayor kougan yes 124 is a presentation and discussion of the fora Public Schools data as presented by Brian Raposa assistant superintendent Chief academic officer Mr Roser oh yeah it was it was tabled so I'm ask for a motion to lift it from the table so moved second I have a motion to

second to lift DB call the vote Please Mr AIA yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes yes Mr Cory yes m larvey m Pereira yes mayor cougan yes Mr opposer okay good evening um so I'm just going to give an overview of um our accountability data from last year um I've included some school specific data as well just an overview for the district and I'm happy to take um any questions as well so the first

slide here is uh related to our chronic absenteeism um on this slide um you'll note that uh the years are across the bottom 2019 to 2024 um from 2022 on uh we've had uh a decline in the percentage of chronic absenteeism uh which is moving in the direction that we want to see um we can see that um our student group uh that has had the largest decline are English Learners um

and so just as a reminder chronic absenteeism is defined as students missing 10% or more of the school year we this is factored into our accountability um as a district as well this slide um is related to accountability percentiles so what you'll see here um is the uh Department of Education Elementary and secondary education assigns uh a percentile to schools uh based on their overall um

performance and in the green is the current uh 2024 percentile in the blue um is the previous year's percentile and so um we can see that you know because it's a percentile we want schools to be increasing overall yes um Mr Mr reposa do you prefer questions at the end or during your presentation it's up to you happy to take a question yes actually I'll wait till our chair returns okay

continue um so you can see in the green here these are percentiles from this year um the blue percentiles from last year um and so you know from this chart you can see there are schools um that have um increased percentile as well as some schools that have actually declined um decrease their percentile and so it's important to note that they're compared to to uh like schools um when uh

establishing their their rank in a percentile our district classification right now we're classified as not requiring Assistance or intervention um and we're classified as making moderate progress toward targets our schools are um in these four buckets and so you'll notice um starting uh all the way on the left substantial progress toward targets Doran laterno Sylvia def of Bardon moderate Pro uh

progress tany um the schools designated in need of focused and targeted support dery green Henry Lord cus Morton talat FIS and Watson and then in need of broad comprehensive support fonsa this shows us how progress is calculated um overall progress toward Improvement targets and so um this is an example uh from talbat so um two years of data are used to calc calculate a school's overall progress and so talit

in 2024 this past year um made uh 82% progress toward targets that's weighted at 60% and last year they made uh 56% progress toward targets at talit um and that's weighted at 40% and so the overall progress is uh 72% yes thank you um just quickly um so what want me to go back to the previous or that that one in the next one is a a general question um

I notied both Stone and are PA aren't included in this um presentation in the data and I was just wondering as to why yeah they don't receive um an accountability percentile um just due to the nature of the school the size of the school the amount of students who complete the assessment um so they're not countered they're not counted in the accountability they still have uh their

own performance data and so we can see you know what their performance would look like but from an accountability lens they're not factored in okay um I I'll let you continue to Sor okay so this slide shows um you know we have schools as we know that um you know are not performing where they should be um and so I think this is an important slide that uh demonstrates um what schools have made

progress where they're Landing in terms of progress toward targets and so we can see right now we have um talbet cus fonsica Doran lerno Sylvia and Spencer bordon that are designated as having made substantial progress in terms of me um um percentage uh points toward their indicators uh moderate Mort green Henry larison tany and then limited or no progress dery this is based on the two years um of data 2023 and

2024 these are sort of the um charts that you would see if you um looked at the the Department of Education you know the the um uh student achievement the performance um charts and so top left is uh Ela this is specifically for high school um top right is uh High School bio and then the bottom chart is math and so just in terms of telling the

story um in ela um if we look at the um blue would be exceeds expectations the green is meets the orange color is partially meeting and then the red is not meeting and so for instance if if you look at at Ela the number of students who are not meeting expectations um we actually are at 30% so you know roughly a third of our kids and that does represent an increase from

the 2023 year this is high school only is this just dery only this is high school only exactly which is dery not RPA accountability part yes exactly yep um High School bio you can see that um you know there's a decrease in the percentage I'm just looking at the not meeting category right now the red there's a decrease in the percentage of the not meeting um from last year to uh from 2023 to

2024 um and then high school math uh you'll note that um there's an increase in the percentage of students that are not meeting from 20 uh% to 38% okay so this is high school only dery these are grades 3 to8 um and so we know the assessment um um also spans students take the assessment three and eight they don't take the assessment in nine and then the high school data is factored around uh when students should

take get in grade 10 um and so in grades 3 to 8 um for ELA top left you can see that um we're we're sort of uh flat in the not meeting category the red category um 37% in 2023 37% in 2024 um and there was actually a slight um de decrease in the students in the green in the meeting category for ELA looking like those students were shifting to partially meeting in science

um we actually had a slight um increase in the not meeting category and um we of about five points and we're we're um the same in the the meets and exceeds category and then for math uh we actually had a slight decrease in not meeting um so we went from 37 to 35% so a slight D twoo decrease in not meeting Mr chairman yeah Mr can I just ask you a

quick question on those two slides so the one that you mentioned for high school yes it looks like English and math we're having more students that are in the lowest category and the other one which combines all three to eight seems flat is that fair to say like yeah that's fair to say compared it to so yes uh my concern is and I've always said it is that we these assessments and

um the numbers are not good and it's very hard to sugarcoat it and and I just think those two slides when you showed them show one being flat is not good enough because we're still trying to get back to preco all that so I don't think anybody's saying that that's good enough but the more worrisome one to me is that previous slide because when you see the number where you especially in English and math

where you see the like that for me is the stud moving in the wrong direction absolutely you know what I'm saying so that's I just wanted to point out I think that I think you probably concur but for me that's telling absolutely and I you know I'm really just um relaying now the facts of the data right I I I you know we definitely have a lot of work to do um I would say it's it's

concerning absolutely um and you know by no means am I saying hey this is this is great progress we know that we certainly have work to do but yes the the high school slide um you know does look like we're increasing the number of students in that red category not meeting whereas the 3 to eight we're sort of flat there thank you are you yes Mr Bailey just taking a look at the

be preparing the information as well um and not right now I don't know if I'm jumping ahead or not but also will we be able to receive this from like different student groups as well to take a look at these things yeah absolutely I I have some slides I think that speak to different student groups and that's exactly what we do at the district level so um at the very least we consistently

our priority um really calls out specifically students with disabilities and multilingual Learners so every time we're looking at data at the district level or School level we have at minimum those three lenses um and then really um certain schools will also be looking at other sub subgroups for instance they may look at um a a large Hispanic population for instance right and so

there's a lot of different ways um that we can analyze the data based on subgroups yeah I would like to see that yep absolutely so um this is a growth distribution and so um really what this shows I'll just explain uh the graphic because you know we know that um there's two different me measures we have um our performance distribution in terms of where we land in exceeds Meats partially

meats are not meeting and then we also have growth in order for us to close achievement gaps we have to have high growth right that that's important um and so what this chart shows is if you look at the color coding all the way to the right the very light color um indicates very low growth and then if you go down the darker green color indicates very high growth at the bottom

you'll see the the um span for from 0 to 100 and so that basically represents the Statewide distribution so essentially you would at the state level you'd have about 20% of your students that are in very low growth 20% in low 20% moderate when we look at our district um the shading I'll call out a couple areas of concern and then a couple areas um you know of potential strength right so one

would be grade six as an example in ela we can see that we have that very light yellow color um representing 32% right so that would tell us that we have about a third of our kids with very low growth in grade 6 Ela um if you continue looking at the low growth it looks like there may be a potential bright spot in the grade eight because we only have

177% of kids with that low growth okay as compared to 32% which is almost double right um and so that that's how we can interpret this chart if I go all the way to the right side grade 5 Ela um there's about 21% of students fall falling in that um High uh very high growth category and then um same thing in uh grade 8 uh for the uh about 21% as

well but you can see certainly that grade six is a concern and grade 10 is a concern um you know really uh um High um percentage of students falling in that very low growth this is the same type of chart for Math and so um similarly you can see right away sixth grade uh math distribution um about 33% of our students falling in that very low growth range and then um which correlates with

the slide the slides early for the high school grade 10 Ela about 40% of our students falling in that very low growth okay so this this you know sort of coincides or correlates in a way with the performance slide we saw earlier so related to growth can I sorry can I interrupt for one second just ask question so the superintendent so the that number the 42% if I could ask you

for a correlation report on the grades that those students had in the school so are you asking for grade 10 specifically here just specifically grade 10 yep because I think we need to dig a little deeper into what are we what are we calling meeting the requirements of the school because if you're at that 42% are way down the left side and they're passing their grades we got a problem thank you I

yield yeah I think um just to you know just to speak to that for a moment if I can I think um I understand the the purpose around that I think it might be helpful to correlate really with the students in the not meeting category here because what happens is your growth is determined by your academic peers and so it's actually possible to be meeting um on the exam so you actually could

could let let say um get a meeting score on the mcast but have an SGP that's 20 right um and so I think but to your point I think that's that's an important point I agree with your point whatever measure you like to use the ab is yes we need to start looking because if we're going to be required to now say a student earns a diploma by doing the local requirements we have to be honest

about what those local requirements are thank thank you yeah so I will certainly correlate that you're just looking for a correlation with the not- meeting category yep um okay these are School growth highlights and so um you know really the median you know the middle is a 50 SGP and so I just want to call out schools where we saw some bright spots you know one of the things we're we're

doing you know trying to do this year is really emphasize like there are opportunities where we can learn from each other you know School leaders teachers and so I think it's important that we're calling out where we see some gains because um we can go see there and have conversations and say what's happening there what are you doing that's working right and so um for all students category and um we actually

carve out students with disabilities and multilingual Learners here as well um for all students category for ELA um FIS Doran lero Silvia Watson and talit all had SGP aggregate sgps above 50 um and for math lerno Sylvia Spencer bordon and green okay so that was that's some positive School growth um for students with disabilities um we did not have any schools with um nsgp 50 plus but for

math uh for ELA but for math we actually had Sylvia and Spencer bordon and so uh there's something to learn there for related to students with disabilities and Mathematics in terms of our multilingual Learners um again for ELA School growth of 50 plus Henry Lord lerno and talbat and then for math Doran lerno Sylvia and Watson so again I think these are opportunities for us to learn from these

schools around um uh their growth data I'll kind of just speak briefly about next steps then can take any additional questions so um one of our in terms of next steps we submitted uh so so as a district we've created a um District prioritization plan um we work closely with the Statewide system of support um and we have a a narrow focus in that plan around Middle School mathematics we

know that that's an area of need um and I think you know there's a theory there around supporting middle school and um how that also connects to what's happening at the high school as well um we also have a creation this year of a district uh instructional leadership team um we conduct learning walks we've looked at student work analyze districtwide data that team is comprised of myself directors and I actually have

School principles that sit on that team as well um we do have some monthly support visits with the Statewide system of support where they actually come on site um we also have um done this year h a school partnership model so many of our directors actually have a cluster of schools that they work pretty closely with um with those principles uh to support instruction in their building

and um I've actually um scheduled you know monthly visits to all schools I'm really starting with our most needy schools and so all schools in the bottom 10% I actually visit every month I walk with the principles um similarly we've um we're conducting data Dives with all of our schools um and we actually have a a a quarterly learning walks for principles and then finally we've um

instituted a short-term goal process and so we're asking principles to really look closely at their data and um create you know a 6 to8 we or a 10we goal that we can measure and look for some uh marked improvement Mr Das thank you um were you finished princip thank you um so a few questions so the data you just presented is this something obviously we do this probably every single year my my first

year here um is this um Destin required like mandated like this data or just just something we do um inhouse do you mean doing the presentation not the no not the the the collecting the data yes so this is actually accountability data that's all publicly available on the on our on our the Desy website for Fall River right so there's a Desy requirement that we yes okay um so with that being said and um

I'm a little puzzled as to why hopefully someone can answer this question why is not stone or RPA why don't we collect accountability data for those two schools I feel like we're doing them at diservice by not but maybe someone can educate me go so the it it has to do with the enrollment and the number of students who take the test so there are in order for schools to get an accountability

rating they're not going to base it on five test takers or or you know small numbers kind of thing so there is a minimum threshold you need at least this many students at a particular grade level for those for it to count and So based on the the enrollment of the school so if you think about a school like Stone there aren't enough students 9 through 12 who are testing at those

grade levels for them to get an accountability measure so the schools contribute to our district accountability but they don't get an accountability rating themselves what they do get is individual student data right so and they're working with small numbers of students where they can certainly I mean all our larger schools do it too right look for Trends in student data outside of accountability

just look at the growth look at the performance of individuals and that's what those schools do then can I request that um at our next meeting that we get an additional presentation on the data we have at both Stone and RPA for our and and you're able to access it on the Desi website as well so as Dr Curley stated you you they won't have necessarily an accountability ranking because of the number of enrollment but

you can actually see the Performance Based like on mcast percent meeting or not meeting but we can certainly provide any additional data for I understand that but I I just like to see it done publicly just because um so the Public's aware and the committe is to wear at a public setting yeah so to Dr K's Point what will happen sometimes is even a school a smaller school like a Watson if they

don't have for instance um if they have a very small number of students with disabilities in like a grade four they may not get a rating for grade four students with disabilities right but they would have for the other areas so it's really based on that that enrollment piece one one last question I I know I say you um and just going back to um Mr agar's Point um about the data I mean

obviously there's just numbers in there and you say yourself that are just um not satisfactory and we um if we we can just get an explanation I don't know if you could provide today as to why the numbers are aren't doing well and um what we're doing to fix it I mean I think that's a fair question I don't know if you have the answer right now yeah I mean I think the answer is that

um you know schools really do know their data uh their teams you know are working I think there's not a clear-cut um solution if there were you know we we would have done that right I think the idea is that teams are looking at their data looking at their student needs looking at the systems they have in their building and we're supporting them with that work um I can certainly um you

know put something together around like some concrete next steps similar to the stuff I have in these slides um but you know I don't know that there's a you know there's there's not going to be like this this clear this is all you have to do right and so really what we see is we're at a macro level with the district it's really about supporting schools to know their students really

well um they know their systems well and support their their teachers and students in their schools no and I appreciate that I think so the committee understands the concrete next steps and uh maybe what what's gone wrong maybe you're think certain things are curriculum for funding I I don't know the answer I'll lead that up to you but we definitely need to get the numbers up within the next few years um so yeah

definitely the concrete next steps and just maybe some explanations as to what's been not been working just so we know going in the future what we need to be funding what we shouldn't be funding going forward thank you and I yoke anything further Mr Mr thank you for the presentation um it's always you know you try to mix in some positives and and all that I get it it's not an easy thing to

do to present you know the data is not good hasn't been good for a number of years here and I've been saying it since I've been on here nobody has a quick answer I'm not suggesting that we do but what I've been saying at this Podium for multiple years is that we have to do something different and it has to be bold and I think we're missing that boat sometimes when when I look if you look

at the last four or five years of funding that we received we've received more funding than we've ever received we hired more people than we've ever hired and the numbers are still not where they need to be so something doesn't doesn't drive there not looking for the answer I just you know think that when you you make the presentation you do the best you can with it the numbers are the

numbers we can't sugarcoat them but it's very difficult to move those numbers a couple percentage points like moving from 11 to 13 or people got to realize that that is not something that just happens by little incremental change and it could still be in a school that is being run quite well the teachers are doing a great job the counselors are caring for their kids all those things could be happening and

those numbers are still not where they need to be so we have to internally you all look at something that's totally different because we're not doing it right and one of the points Middle School is an issue we've been saying this for how long when are we going to just get rid of the Middle School model across the district and think outside the box with some long-term planning to

try to do something different we've been saying the same thing year after year after year so we need to look at the district we need to look at where our students are we need to I put a request in today to have a subcommittee meeting in December based on going over the whole system we say this every year and then it becomes February and we don't do it we need to look at something

different because because what we're doing right now is not working even with everybody's best intentions and not saying the schools are unsafe none of that stuff right this nobody can tell us that this is okay so I'm here to support you guys with whatever you need as far as votes I voted for every single position at dery high school over the last four years I sat in meeting after meeting after meeting with a prior

principal and said I will vote for every one of these positions every one of those positions I voted for and I said to the principal across the table but we need to see results and I don't have to say what the results are because you showed them right here go back and watch the video you can see it so as somebody that is one member I voted for all these new

positions I I voted for this I voted for that we're not seeing the results of any of that so something has to give because we we've we're now out of money we don't have millions of dollars extra to add so the staff that we have is who we have but the high school numbers going backwards to me it's a real concern but I do appreciate your work Dr Curley you're trying your best I understand it

and and you're new to this position but all I can say is please do something bold that's all I yield any further discussion Mr Das no yes just real real quick quickly um and just getting back to my last point it's been the last time but um what what is the point of presenting the data what what is the point what do you mean like what like having the public um data disc like the

presentation what what is the point so I think the idea is that um the data is embargoed until a certain date and then once it's released um we are sharing it with the school committee uh for your knowledge thank you and and and just to that point as well we have um hundreds and more students at both Stone and RPA and in some form may not be officially a Desi I think it's important that we give

some sort of similar comparison of data um to be fair and Equitable to those schools and to also have a better for ourselves and the public to have a better understanding of what's going on there and if we can have that presented hopefully at the next meeting that would be Stellar thank you a any further points to discuss thank you Mr Rosa 125 is a discussion and vote to approve the second read of the revived

District handbook is presented by Dr Tracy Curley superintendent schools okay so uh within um within the backup within the binders um there's a summary page um with changes to the district handbook and you'll notice that on some of the pages like you know page two page five there are not substantive changes we do have um there were some you know more substantial changes made to things like the bullying

intervention plan um Progressive discipline Alternatives in school suspensions special ed u discipline homeschool the equal education opportunities um was actually just updated with um an update in a name and then we have the um grievance procedures which were updated with a name the health services prek 12 um updated with new policy so I don't know if you want to if there were any questions on them in particular all

of the changes were highlighted in red um and is the Yonder policy within here as well I'm sorry is the is the new cell phone policy within the district Tambo yes yep it um it was added on pages 64 to 67 student use of cell phone and personal device thank you I yield oh actually that was a different one oh no that's the one yeah that's the Y that you're talking about Mr yeah just

uh reading through this one of the things I think is uh is important to point out and we all can sit here parents can sit at home watch things whatever they want to look at say we need to control our schools we need to control behavior in schools schools need to be a place for learning we're not going to tolerate misbehavior dis all that stuff and at the same time as we

say that and we can all agree on that the state legislature votes to tie the hands of Administrators in the school district related to suspension or any of that and I think it needs to be pointed out because we can say all you want to a principal whoever oh that action determined that student should get suspended immediately because that's a suspendable act well you read here what

that we're putting in the policy which is based on the law and all the lawyers and everybody else that gets involved you can't suspend the kid people don't realize the the handcuffing that the administrators have the superintendent has on disciplined kids and controlling what's going on in the school so I'm not looking to go back this is the facts it's the law but we need to be able to

articulate to the legislature because they got a free ride on this they changed all these laws without having a clue what the hell's going on because somebody was was ridiculously suspended in Boston or whever ever it is and then the whole legislature changes the laws so that the person that's working on at this particular School can't suspend a kid because they did something whatever

one day we were here at a meeting a couple years ago and the kid said we threw a kid threw a chair across the table across the room we all said hell that kid should be suspended well we can't suspend him because the laws and all this other stuff so all I'm asking is that I've been saying this for how long we need to have legislative meetings from your Administration from the prior

administrations with the legislature so that you can talk to them and explain to them that some of the decisions they're making are not benefiting the schools being run properly now that can't be with us because of open meeting law but we need to be able to when I read these things here and if anybody wants to read it feel free to read it page 29 and Page 5455 those things are handcuffing the

principles and vice principles that are trying to maintain order and discipline in these schools and that's a fact so all I'm asking is that you try to meet with the legislature that explain to them please help us instead of handcuffing us I yield thank you uh Mr Das thank you and just real quickly to Mr agar's Point um I think with many many many things within the district even within the state I think the

legislature does handicap us I'm actually really happy to see the legislative program coming on and I think we need to be using our voice as a school committee more often to Advocate against legislation that handicaps us and we need we need more autonomy as a district when it comes to many different things a you anything further 125 is discussion and vote to approve the second reading of the

revived District handbook can I get a motion to Second approve second I have a motion to Second any further discussion Deb please call the roll on 125 Mr AA yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das no Mr Cory yes Miss larv Miss Pereira yes Mar hugan yes 126 is the second reading the vote to approve the updated policies referred by the policy subcommittee and presented by Brian La human resource director and Amy bronhard

assistant superintendent of student services go ahead motion to approve I have a I have a motion to approve do I have a second second motion second discussion Mr L okay uh can I just ask one question first can you just articulate what we have in our binder is the first one public comment does this reflect the the changes from the last meeting yeah I can go through all that if you

want know I'm saying the one that we voted on we had voted at one point to change something this is up to date yep thank you I yield so with polic well let me start with um back in the October subcommittee meeting the policy subcommittee meeting I brought um five policies forward to to look at um those are all here tonight along with the bullying policy um that Dr bronhard can speak to but the five

policies that I took uh those were from the masc um updates that uh they send out usually a few times a year what I did was as a starting point I went back to the update from September 2023 and I'm going to just start going down that list for policy updates so I took the first five uh to start with that's what I brought to the subcommittee back in

October um and be uh BH was one of them the only change that um masc had proposed that time or or uh part of their uh policy update was on the second page number four they um decided to strike or contains obscenities so that was the M masc uh recommendation then if you go back to the top we can kind of go through the other um edits here the third paragraph that struck out that was

what was voted on can I interrup hold on Mr AGA so masc is a recommendation for they don't tell everybody body what to do just for the record yeah so you're telling me that the only recommendation that they had was in number four that should say are likely to provoke reaction and cause a breach of peace or incitement to imminent Lawless conduct where we had all contains obscenities and they want

us to strike that that was the recommendation from the the policy update from masc yes does anybody else think that's ridiculous because I do I yield M PR I think I mean I agree I I prefer not to at or sworn at but I think it becomes a legal thing where if we prevent somebody then we don't want to then get sued that we're violating somebody's civil rights so if that's the case I

mean whatever I guess they allowed to swear at us it's I'd rather have that than the school department be sued because somebody thinks they have the right to do that I mean the attorney maybe so I agree with I agree with uh my colleague but I think sometimes airing on the side of caution for the betterment I I'm thinking that's the reason Mr D uh Mr L before I ask questions were you done with your

presentation on bedh I I'll I was just going to review what the the changes are that you have and sort of how we came to this point I'm going to yield and let him finish his presentation great go ahead sure uh so the the first uh excuse me the third paragraph that struck out um that was done as a vote at the last school committee meeting um that was approved so that's why the the change is

here uh if you then go down still on the first page number one the vote um the change from um the public comment SE segment shall not exceed 15 minutes uh there was a vote taken at the subcommittee meeting to change that to 30 minutes that was approved so that's why that change is in here um number two the subcommittee had voted to change the um time limit for speakers from 3: to 5

minutes then at the October school committee meeting that was brought forth to a vote and it got changed back to 3 minutes so that you see those uh edits there um also at the October school committee meeting there was a motion made for the chair and vice chair to present some language uh relative to the 30 minute time limit and um that was added as part 3A and then I already spoke about the

only change that masc um suggested okay any questions Mr Das uh yes um uh a few um questions um concerns U first of all um and just as I asked in the subcommittee just um so the Public's aware look looking through this um we never consulted an attorney looking at this policy attorney aside or anyone I I didn't no okay um secondly I see a section that was added in here that

basically quotes the city Charter I know we had extensive debate at the last meeting I could be wrong but I don't recall as taking a vote to add section 9-18 of the charter within the policy yeah this when we were at the last meeting if you remember Mr Das um I believe it was you or Mr agier said bring back some recommendations that you think will strengthen the policy and I think having that clearly outlined in

the policy the city Charter um kind of addresses some people's concerns about public inut okay um and we just put it in verbatim we didn't change anything okay um so going back to um I know we had an extensive discussion on the Corum so um when I went I went went before the city council a few weeks ago um and I noticed during their citizens inputs and they run and let me say the council

president does a good job at running his me not saying you don't but I'm saying he does he's very he's very um thorough I think we can all agree with that he's very thorough um and yeah and myself and I saw other members of the public they the council engaged in questions right after um that was um that was done and it was never an issue the issues were resolved there was

clarifying questions it was great so I don't think there's any issue with the Quorum there I think we should keep that section out because it just creates um an inbound bance just we had a Committee Member ask questions before um two members during citizens input today and just to congratulate them and I and I applaud that I support that and that's the way it should be we shouldn't be

restricted to not saying anything especially um I know there's been some debate as to whether there was um statements that are made and some people question the accuracy of them I don't think it hurts to have an open honest discussion or to clarify now going back to section 9-18 of the city ch Charter um it restricts public input at a special school committee meetings to items that are specifically on the

agenda so with that being said um I like to make a motion on table i' like to make an all right i' like to make an amendment um that we add a section Section 8 um that to the citizens input policy that every special meeting agenda shall state that citizens input shall that citizens shall be able to speak on any item within the jurisdiction of the school committee um State yeah the the charter would control

yes the charter would override that I I again I would make the argument if we put on an agenda item we put an agenda item that says citizens input on a special all the all the city Charter says that citizens input must be within items of the agenda if the agenda allows broad access for a citizens to speak about within any item within the school committee you're not violating

the charter um so I I I make my motion um so every CI Citizen's input uh states on the agenda that any citizen could speak within any item within a purview of the school committee um it doesn't violate section 9-18 because it's it's still an item on the agenda we're just allowing just the public to be able to speak about any item within the school committee's Authority so that's my motion I'll request a

second any second question Mr AGA the uh I understand my colleague's points but the for of a cha is poorly written I think everybody will admit that it's poorly written it's actually contradictory towards what it says for a regular meeting versus a special meeting um I think the simple solution to that is that we have a motion at some point that we don't have any special meetings all meetings of the school committee

will be regular meetings and it covers that issue um that would be for a future vote uh relative to the requests from the um item one where it said the 30 minutes I recall and just for the record no we have received not one piece of information from anybody unless I missed it that says this is the recommendation from the chair and the vice chair related to this I've never seen an email I've never

seen anything related to that other than now so the the fact that this chart being inserted I couldn't answer to that because nobody's ever gotten it other than now but the point of why we wanted to um ask for support was to say at item one when it said 30 minutes the point was they were going to adopt language that would allow for the rest of the citizen input at the end of the meeting

I don't think it had anything to do with the city chart of language because we had said we want 30 minutes at the beginning of the meeting three minutes each that's 10 people if there's 20 people signed up once we go through the minutes at the end of the meeting we have the rest I thought that's the only request that I had made personally to try to I I don't I don't have a problem

with that Amendment if you want to offer it Mr the part of the charter is it's it is what it is I don't care whether it's in it's not that's is what it is but I do think that the part in the beginning that stried out about public comments not a discussion the mayor admitted and told told us all that at that point you could go back and forth and talk to

somebody he never shuts us down so problem with that if you want to offer that as an amendment I'll support you on that one because we had talked about it at that meeting that's not a problem so three minutes Mr L is in there's not scratched out but on number two y it's back by the way it's three minutes you withdraw it okay okay so Mr Mr agar he with his I

think the only motion that needs to the amendment that needs to be added is on item one where it says all speakers are resp comments in a respectful manner we need to add any additional uh public comments will be heard at the end of the agenda I think that's the only missing piece I'll second that one and I never second anything no I'm serious I I agree with you 100% we would we' kicked it

around so 30 minutes before hold on Mr R one question is that wable it was if we have one speaker left do you want to just let him have a I think it's always wable personally it's always wable by a vote of the committee but where it says the public comment section shall not exceed 30 minutes we're not saying we'll only listen for 30 minutes it's 30 minutes at the beginning at at the end

everybody else will be able to be heard gotcha okay so Mr agar has a motion to amend section one to allow 30 minutes at the beginning and finish the public input at the end as necessary the end of the meeting at the end of the meeting yep I uh um someone else want to Second it I'll second it there you go you can be on record a second it's okay

I don't do it but I with you because of you Kev I'm supporting you you know that buddy question on the amendment go ahead um through you to attorney aside the only concern I have with that is going back to section 9-18 is there is a small part wa hey Dr jumpy he's got a motion we voted on we want you are we're going to vote on the 30 minutes we'll go right back to

you after we vote right it's on the amendment we're literally on the amendment Mr May goad I'm sorry I missed you it's okay so we're moving around so we're everyone after the 30 minutes getting moved to the end of the agenda yes the only issue I have with that is um within section 9-18 I don't know if it's in here but there's language that um discusses um citizens input must be scheduled that the convenience of the

public I don't know if moving some individuals to the end is violating that section no no many many local city boards have the a public input at the end right now yeah it's it's very common I think planning I think zoning they all they all talk at the end it's not it's the time that could be very broad too yeah the yeah that's what I'm saying so as long as you provide them the opportunity you're

okay I don't know if I support it but I I I understand that you all right let's go on Mr agar's Amendment Deb please can I just clarify when when we say end of meeting are we talking about like before we go into executive session at the end of the meeting when we come out when we come out okay Mr AGA yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das no Mr Cory yes M lar M Pereira

yes mayor cougan yes anything further on this section motion approve motion to move I think it was already out there okay hang on moot I have a motion to approve the whole thing do I have a second second I have a motion to second on that Mr Das thank I believe we already had a motion in there was a motion and it was seconded so I just no

one seconded it Mr no I M PR I believe made a motion earlier to approve the correct and Mr a seconded it corre so it's as amended that's all her she made the motion I amended it like so now it's just on the floor is there a motion give it a give it a roll call that I had discussion on the still on the motion uh it's okay um again as I said earlier um

we've had individuals come here and speak bilingual and um again I think 3 minutes is um just not enough I like to make a motion that we increase citizens input by 30 seconds there is a motion already on I I I make an amendment to the motion that we increase citizens input from 3 minutes to 3 minutes and 30 seconds can I do we hold we got a motion on the floor correct he

want amendment is there a second can I say something no is there a second on that one I just like to say something go ahead I'll wait if anyone okay um I agree with Mr Das no offense may but you know what I notice they do at city council is that before he gets to the three minutes Mr Camara president kamaro will say 15 seconds you got 30 seconds

so it helps people as opposed to here we say you're done and then they're trying to wrap it up we can do that going forward I think 3 minutes is fine because I think they're prepared for three minutes you are correct but sometimes you get up and talk and you know that will happen yeah my word okay go ahead so on Mr do we have a second on the motion I withdraw my amendment can

you you restate the motion he withw Hew call the r Mr agel yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr Cory Miss larav Miss Pereira yes mayor kougan yes all right there's one public now we have development and dissemination dissemination of oh we're taking all all of them separate okay I guess that's where we are anybody have any discussion points on development and dissemination of procedures hearing none motion to

approve I have a motion second discussion Mr Agia could you explain why this is what's being taken out it's been taken out so that was um part of the recommendation by masc um the update that I was looking at in September of 23 what what this did was it took two separate policies cha which is the development of procedures and CHC which is procedures dissemination combine them just to create one policy um but what I

was looking at from the update from uh uh September 23 it it already had that section taken out it wasn't included so I believe that that part was struck in an earlier update um I don't know why M ASC recommended that but that was just part of the recommendation in in the update that I saw so for the edification of the public what we're striking out States it will be the responsibility of

the superintendent to see that the procedures developed to implement committee policies and administer the school system are appropriately coded and included as procedures in the school committee's policy manual I don't think we should get rid of that that's part of the responsibility of the superintendent so are you telling me that that's getting struck stried from the record and like I I just don't understand why

that would be coded and I really don't care what masc says I'm not sure if you realize that but as one member I don't care what they say but somebody tell me why that should be stried from the record I would draw my motion so to answer your question this wasn't my recommendation um I was tasked with bringing some policies forward to the the subcommittee in October um and I thought a good starting point would be

going back to December uh excuse me September 23 when masc provides these updates um I'm presenting what masc recommended to the subcommittee the subcomittee then approved this and brought it to the school committee I understand sir I mean I can speak to this I think I think that at present the um the procedures um that have been developed in support of our policies don't sit within the policy

manual they don't presently I mean our policy manual is policy after policy after policy and not any of the procedures so I think this is just reflective of the work um that we do now that we don't code and include the proc procedures in the school committee's policy manual they don't exist there now what's in the policy manual policies I take this as whose responsibility is it to make sure that

the records are up to date and coded properly in our policy manuals that's what I take but what it says is that um school committee policy that administer school system are appropriately coded sorry procedures developed to implement policies in administer the school system are appropriately coded and included as procedures in the school committee's policy manual so when we are developing

a when a policy gets approved and we develop procedures or there are procedures in place we don't code them in place them in the manual they don't they're they're not the the procedures themselves aren't necessarily finding themselves in that policy manual but they could be and if they if there policy this policy made in various ways via meetings the like votes um budgets like whatever there's policies that are

created and procedures that are created I'm seeing this as whose responsibility is it to make sure that they're coded properly and that falls under the superintendent and full-time staff that work under you HR Director secretary whatever that's how I'm reading this not about whether you have like School building procedures you know what that's not that's not a policy So that obviously wouldn't go on a policy manual

like we don't have a procedure this literally says that the procedures it says it will be the responsibility of the superintendent to see that the procedures developed to implement school committee policies and administer the school system are appropriately coded and included as procedures in the school committee's policy manual so at this point it would if if this got approved with that

language in it and it we did not strike it out it would be I'm not sure what that timeline would look like but to develop a procedure and publish it as part of the policy manual I mean that's I'm not even sure what kind of project that is but if you look at the top look at the yellow what they're recommending is the procedure it talks about designing the detail Arrangements under which the

school committee will be operated in accordance with the policy so it's contradictory if if what you're saying is true then the whole thing needs to be look reworded because it's it's the policies that are at the top that this is saying who's responsible I do believe that I I understand that the procedures The Way We Carry Out the the policies in schools and across the district I do agree that

that is that is the responsibility of the superintendent I I get that piece it's that committing in writing the procedures associated with every single policy as part of that policy manual I'm yeah I'm just not sure what that would look like most immediately well it's been in existence for no I think that what Mr L is saying is that it was it's already stried I'm not sure stricken it's already stricken in our own

policy I don't that's not what I heard oh so so the policy over the last three years whatever since whenever he went to this this is the policy that's in existing so why it's exed out or lined out is because it's a current policy so what you're saying is we haven't been following current policy that's a whole another issue but I think that if we look at the policy manual it's clear

that the procedures for each policy are not in our policy manual currently so we definitely have a quagmire so I would recommend we table this until next meeeting and you can work with Mr L to get some clarification okay that's all we're you're not making points that are not valid just that right now on the Fly we're trying to read it and I think it needs it's worthy of us taking another

look at it it's not going to kill anybody for the month did you make a motion Mr table second have a motion to table it okay Deb call the role Mr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr Cory no M lar M Pereira no mayor Coogan no Mr Mayor it's y Mr D um when this was presented the subcommittee I was under the impression that this was just combining two policies into one there

was no substance substantive change to those policies is that correct so it was combining two policies into one what I did was I took what masc suggested which was this combination when I looked at our two separate policies cha and CHC our existing policy had that language from CHC that I struck out the combination that masc presented in their September 23 newsletter didn't have that

section my guess is in a previous update prior to September 23 they most likely gave an update to policy CHC that removed that section already so when they were combining these two that section was already out I don't know when that recommendation was made by masc I like I said I started with the September 23 newsletter as kind of where I was starting with so the updated masc guidance which I agree with

Mr agar we should be careful looking at um but that updated Mast guidance had some um differences within the policy um than the previous guidance not sure what you're asking so we combined two policies yes and there is a difference within the guidance of masc now than there was previously within the language you you just said the the certain section I don't know the verbatim but I'm not quite sure what you're

getting at I think what he's saying is somebody dropped the ball in the past fil being brutally honest somebody in the in the past when they combined them should have strike this from the record they didn't now we got two policies still existing that's the Quagmire that's why I asked to table it because clearly we need more information the the combination of the two policies was from the September 23 update

um prior to that what I think happened was masc most likely before those policies were combined I'm guessing that they made uh an update that suggested that language be struck from CHC that never took place here in Fall River so I included this as strucken language in um the policy that was presented to the sub he's answered a question sorry I thought he was hang on done you all set I was only trying to make a

clarification I'll make a motion that we refer this back to policy subcommittee second any discussion Deb call the role Mr AG yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr Cory yes M lar M Pereira no mayor cougan no next one referred back is the bullying prevention policy motion to approve motion to approve that policy any discussion I have a motion a second Deb call roll on Mr chairman just

uh do we have uh the one page I like for this for this uh what has changed so it was just um what I do with that now

she so on the summary page it just referenced um that it had been it referenced where in the handbook oh no I'm sorry the policy wrong one I don't have a sheet for that technical changes the time the timeline is there and then if you flip to page two it's a running document if you flip to page two of what I provided you'll see the changes as Pro as prop as

proposed by the committee and then it goes section by section if a change was in there I'm just trying to find it in what we had um what we received so I think that um Dr bronhard did that in the first the first read well in there I think you have it in your hand right now the chart the timeline page the documentation of the changes page two Begins the individual sections okay and is it technical

changes or is this is there anything substantive with these changes or the more like procedural notices like uh yes and some changes as it relates to um increased training for staff there was a request you know there was the committee that decided we wanted to have additional training for staff so rather than just doing the bullying training at the beginning of the school year there's

a system to refresh that training at the midyear so that all staff are reminded of their role as it relates to being a mandated reporter um and Reporting things as it relates um in addition to that the definition section was moved the only biggest change is the request for reconsideration the original policy had a team for a request for reconsideration and after Consulting with our attorney um he and they

recommended that that be removed that is not part of the desie um recommended intervention plan template and after looking at the way that it has played out or La that of um our legal opinion was sought and recommended based on the committee's review and those recommendations so part 4 a is a question on um I don't know if this is a total new language um but it basically says about who can

report where it gets reported to what parts of that would changed language updated to include administrative positions as potential aggressors so if you notice that second column that's the rationale for change that I listed all so that's not the language there's more language in that correct the language is over on the right the farthest right and then you can dig into the policy for the further but that was

the that was the change that was made and that was the rationale on that side yeah so my only concern with that is uh in the past we had a situation where um superintendent was accused of bullying and it never came to the school committee so I don't know if this is helping that situation ation or is this further circumventing it but um it says or to the school committee or designity when the superintendent is the

alleged aggressor so I don't know if this language is covering that that's the new language that's the updated language to be inclusive of that and does anybody have an opinion of whether that covers the situation that the school committee will get know we got no notice that anything was going on even though people had file complaints against the superintendent we didn't know about that for six eight

weeks we found out just by happen stance so part of it is that if somebody has a if we're over the superintendent they should we should have a say and I'm not sure if I'm assuming that that's what that means but it's a summary um right so this suggests that a staff member will report immediately to the school committee or design when the superintendent is the alleged aggressor so I I don't know what else

the summary I'm just saying the summary says that I just don't know what that that is the language that's the excerpt of the language that has been corrected so that's the whole language it's not something that we're missing if we didn't click the button to look into the correct into the whole policy U I think that's important to put in I think that's a good change um is there anything else related to any cost to the

district by any of the language further like the pots about further counseling and all that stuff that isn't going to cost um nope thank you I yed all right so I have a motion and a second Deb call the roll on bullion Mr Dr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr Cory yes M lar M Pereira yes mayor kran yes 127 is a second reading a vote to approve the new policies referred by the

policy subcommittee and presented by Brian righ any discussion on any of those three policies um motion to approve motion to approve do I have a second I have a are we taking all three yeah we'll take all three of ones if no one says anything it's fine with me but um I have a motion and a second discussion Deb call the r Mr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr Cory yes lar Perera yes mayor

yes 128 is a discussion and vote to approve the appointment of a legislative representative pursuant to policy 3 as presented by Tracy Curley superintendent schools uh yes so I'm just bringing forth a request to visit um policy BJ school committee legislative program and specifically um number three in that policy the committee will annually designate a person who may or may not be

a member of the committee to serve as its legislative representative this person will be authorized to speak on the committee's behalf with respect to legislation being considered by the Massachusetts legislature or the United States Congress or their respective committees in all dealings with individual elected representatives the legislature Are Congress the committee's representative will be bound by the

official positions taken by the school committee and so I bring this forward um asking the committee to appoint a legislative representative motion to approve and appoint col dies second okay I I was going to uh since I I was going nominate myself for that position but we already have a motion to Second so let's vote go ahead uh M uh Deb Mr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr Cory

yes Miss lar M Carrera yes mayor cgan no that's fine number 129 is discussion a vote to approve the revised superintendent timeline is presented by Shelley Pereira chair of the evaluation subcommittee all right so the internet's not my friend right now I can't see the document I pulled up before I had to use the ladies room um but we're looking at adjusting the timeline um to get us back

into what we should be doing which is obviously yearly evaluations um the superintendent clearly was hired in July um so we were looking to get this hopefully if everybody is good or we make changes hopefully this gets approved today and we can go forward um so the next thing on the agenda is the process this is the timeline but we also looked at streamlining the evaluation tool for this particular

evaluation also at this time requesting that the superintendent um set her goals um which we will then use to evaluate her um next year in November um to be back on track to where we should be so we're asking basically the uh the subcommittee is asking that we approve this timeline today so that we and move forward with the evaluation process so that at our January meeting I will be able to

present the evaluation that we've I've already received from the rest of the committee I think it's pretty self-explain any discussion on that part of it the timeline Mr Das yes um and I was with um Mr Pera we were the two um who were at that meeting and um I think it's the best um we got under the under the circumstances um um the only question I'm going to support the approve the

timeline because the best one we have um my question would be and just going forward whenever we get a new superintendent um do we need is it practice to go through evaluation subcommittee to um to get the date of the um goal setting meeting or is that just something that just set outside of evaluation um I I ask that question anyone who knows the answer I think the evaluation subcommittee can

rule that kind of timeline if it's practical for everybody here yeah okay I don't see any problem with it Mr AGA my opinion of that is no so uh superintendent whoever it is gets hired the superintendent should be setting goals based on the superintendent being the superintendent not waiting for the evaluation tool in order to do the goals now those goals would then be implemented in part of the the um once

they're approved part of the evaluation tool but I don't think we should be waiting for this superintendent or the next superintendent to say let's wait to do the goals I personally I don't think those two things go together I don't I'm I'm with you there Mr agar because I don't think that happens I think when you hire a superintendent here or anywhere in the state they start thinking about the goals they want to do

for the district the day they're hired I'm hoping whether it's penned to paper on the timeline is almost an after effect the only reason this has changed at all is because it was compressed because the date of the hire but got to believe unless I'm wrong that during the interviews all the candidates were thinking about after looking at the data goals they'd like to do to improve the

city of Fall Rivers Public School System right the problem is that we are here now and we don't have the superintendent's goals still that's part of the problem I think they're coming I I know but it's already December so my my only Point saying it is we missed that vote already we can't go backwards superintendent gets highed July 1 we should have things in in place yeah you know give some time have an entry plan

we just got last month the a couple weeks ago the entry plan it that that whole timeline should have been way earlier in my opinion and then say here's my goals for my first year that that needs to happen whether it's it's always going to happen if we get superintendent starting July 1 so the question was is the goal setting meeting separate I think the goal setting meeting should be done outside of the

valuation tool in this case we probably have no other choice because now we got to give her some time all right so we have a Motion in a second on this timeline no I oh we don't have we don't have anything a motion to approve we got a motion to have a second then then I'll go to m I have a motion in second Mr Das thank you uh through you to the superint

intendent so the goal so this is a yearly you you you you will be setting goals yearly yes okay so um the goals that you are going to present to us next month um and if I knew we could have went outside eval I would have recommended that we even had this meeting goal setting meeting today outside of our meeting but it's okay going forward we know um so so

the goals that you have set that you're going to present to us next um month are they going to cover until next November or are they going to cover until July when you were hired because they yearly goals but I don't know if you're going to maybe just have goals set for July then set from July on July to July for next year or are you just going to every single year

present your goals now in November I I am I think it makes sense to submit annual goals um I think the difficult part is as part of a a general generally speaking with an evaluation system part of the goal setting might be based on some feedback from from the committee or who or you know for teachers their principal whoever's evaluating them and so I think that people go through an evaluation process

they they set goals as a baseline they go through an evaluation process and then based on some of the feedback based on some additional data they'll set new goals the way the the um Rhythm works here I guess with the superintendent is that that's not a thing I can submit goals I can I can I can offer you my goals um there I could do that now my impression has always been that there is

a goal setting meeting that follows um the evaluation and so I think that's where the confusion is and if we can fix that timeline and have it make sense I'm I'm I guess um so I think you answered my question so the goals you sub you're going to submit in November at the goal setting meeting you're going to want to cover the whole year till November of 25 no I don't think that works I I mean

I think we should just go through June and that I will set some new goals in the new in July I think that's what makes sense okay so we can go go back maybe as eval or we just start if it's separate from eval then we'll start from scratch so your goals that you will submit next November will be c will be until July 1st yeah and and I mean I

think the goals that um that you'll see are there they're goals that are aligned to a um there's going to be alignment with the entry plan that you saw and I think that the the goals are going to make sense for a first year super superintendent I thank you can I get a motion in a second on the timeline motion so miss I have a motion a second Deb call the role on on um

129 Mr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr Cory yes Mr lar Mr Perera yes may cougan yes 1210 is a discussion and vote to approve the modified superintendent's evaluation tool is presented by Shelley Pera chair of the evaluation subcommittee um so again this we looked at the evaluation tool that uh you know that we've used in the past and we streamline it to make it be more efficient and make more sense to what um

we're able to evaluate in such a short period of time um so me and Mr Das consulted with the superintendent as well as ourselves and what you have in front of you um and what we decided to do instead of completing an entire new tool um wanted to make sure that it was legally acceptable to do but instead of developing a whole tool what we decided that would be more efficient is just to

make certain sections not applicable so sort of cross them out not applicable and then we will be responsible to evaluate the portions of the evaluation tool that remain there and the reason that they're not applicable is because she hasn't had enough time to um achieve those goals or earn many of them they were things that haven't occurred yet Mr Das wants to add Mr Cory oh oh I'm sorry I'm sorry are you done M PR

okay Mr Corey I was just I was making a motion let's go I think we already made a motion I don't believe we have a motion we didn't okay Mr C made a motion to have a second second with with a comment Mr Das just so um Miss PR is right um just so the committee is um aware so we went through the Des evaluation tool we took out certain sections that we just

believed were obviously just you couldn't um complete an evaluation with a short amount of time on those certain sections or we just felt like they weren't um just adequate and for sections that we had some debate on whether you could make an evaluate some of these items or not there was some de debate and discussion so to make it fair we added a a section at the end that says not accable

so certain school committee members that they feel like they can't EV evaluate certain things they can place not appliable and then we there could be a difference of opinion so it'll be up to the individual school committee members and and in that tool so everyone can know get everything they want and yeah I Y okay Mr ago the only thing I would recommend changing is uh the section at

the bottom of each say comments it says it's uh for needs Improvement or exemplary comments are required or whatever I think comments should be required from all committee members in each one because what that does is it cheapens the process so go through and check boxes check boxes and don't give a comment good better and different it should just say comments are required for all uh sections I think there's four

sections and a summary we should be able to make a comment doesn't say what is one sentence five sentences but the way I've looked at this in the past is we see some members just don't want to spend the time to do it and they just start checking boxes so I'd like to make that an amendment that all sections have comments I'll second that amendment that okay so we have a motion a second

on what what is it must write a comment just comments we right now it delineates only if you're so if you're a proficient that you don't have to put a comment I want it to be everyone has a comment on each section all right we have a motion to second on commenting on the uh AOW Deb please call the rooll Mr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr cor yeah m

larvey m Pera yes may C yep now on the motion to discuss and approve the modified evaluation tool do we have a motion we have a motion a second for Mr Das M BR Deb could you please call the RO Mr AA yes Mr Bailey yes Mr DUS yes Mr Cory yes Mr lar Perera yes yes 13 is obviously informational retirements appointments um regretfully some people passed away resignations can I get a

motion second on those to go in the motion to accept and place on file I have a motion second Deb call the rooll on that Mr chairman Mr um a just a comment on these so I've been asking for several months to have a section in here about when somebody moves so I appreciate that superintendent added that this month it's listed under rehires so you would see when somebody gets appointed to a different position

or comes back to the district so I just wanted to say thank you for that um and all these positions that are teaching positions are that um recommended by the directors goes without saying okay correct what other transfers recommended no so somebody's being re on here as a hire the process is they're recommended by the director and then approved by you before they go in here all the new hires yes um when you say

directors a boss a principal a director something like that it's not just a willy-nilly process somebody goes through the director interviews recommends to you and you hire that's sometimes people think that yes things just happen with nobody doing that work I just want to clarify for the public thank you can we get a roll call on that Deb please yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr Cory yes larvey perara yesan

yeah Mr Assad sat there patiently all night is there a reason to go into executive session yes there would be mayor Mr Mayor our new business oh did I miss it new business go ahead I'm sorry Mr D he's right 14 I don't have any new business I just wanted to get you're scaring me you are scaring me all right no new business let's go to number 15 with Mr thank you

for pointing out Mr Das I completely missed it I thought you had a list go go ahead Mr okay Mass general laws chapter 3A section 21 A7 to review and approve executive session minutes for October 21 2024 regular school committee meeting M General Law chapter 30 a section 21 A7 to review and approve the executive session minutes for October 29 2024 griev subcommittee meeting M laws

yeah M laws chapter 3A section 2183 to discuss strategy with respect to colletive B agreement including uh hearing grievances relative to All Professional teaching employees for a school system including coaches Title One teachers nurses occupational and physical therapists and specialists in teaching profession represented by the former Educators Association as the chair has determined

that an open session may have a detrimental impact on a barging position of the committee M of Law chapter 38 section 21 A3 discuss strategy with respect to bargaining relative to all administrators and employees represented by the for of Administrators Association as the chair is a turn that no possession may have a detrimental impact on the B position of the committee Mass general laws chapter 38 section 2183 to

discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining relative to relative to all cafeteria employees of the for school system represented by the American Federation of state county and municipal employees Council 93 local 1118 as a chairs determined that open session may have a detrimental impact on a barging position of the committee Mass general laws chapter 38 section 21 A3 to discuss strategy with the respected

collect of bargaining relative to all maintenance employees of the forward school system represented by the American Federation of State County Municipal Employees Council 93 local 1118 as a chairish deter an open session may have a detrimental impact on the Bing position of the committee Mass general laws chapter 38 section 21 A3 to discuss strategy with respect to collect bogging relative to all custo custodial

employees of the former school system represented by the American Federation of state county and Municipal Employees Council 93 local 1118 M Law chapter 38 section 2183 to discuss strategy with respect the collective Bing relative to all Safety and Security employees the forward school system represented by the American Federation of State County Municipal Employees Council 93 local

1118 as the chair determin Open Session may have detrimental impact on AB B position of the committee Mass General Law chapter 38 section 2183 to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining relative to all civil clerical employees of the forward school system represented by the for Department of Civil Service clerical employees Association as a chair is the Open Session may have a detrimental effecta

on the bargaining position of the committee M Law chapter 30A section 21 A3 discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining uh including hearing grievances relative to all par professional employees of the the forward school system represented by the for of Federation of par professionals that chair is deter that open session they have a detrimental impact on on the Bing and litigating position of the

committee M Law chapter 38 section 21 A2 to conduct strategy session preparation for negotiations with non-un Personnel specifically Joshua Fado director of Maintenance we will reconvene the may or may not be statements at that time question wait one second I don't mind um are you done Mr yeah Mr D thank you um just um quick question and just something I noticed because I just don't

want this to um B us back in the future so the third section with the f is relevant to grievances correct has nothing to do with collective bargaining because am I am I right which one um the um SE the third one um does that just cover just grievances or does that cover our collective bargaining every okay A Y thank you okay can I get a motion to second I'm going at the executive

session second Mo second okay Deb call the rooll please yes ba yes Mr D yes Mr Cy M Pera M Pera yes in recess executive

session here here Cory president Herrera here Mayan yep do we have anything further to come before the committee we do Mr Das he's going to do the the minutes um Mr Mayor I'll make a motion that we approve the executive session minutes from October 21st 2024 motion approve second motion second Deb call the roll on the minutes please Mr AGA yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr Cory yes

yes Perera yes yes anything further Mr Mayor I'll make a motion that we approve the executive session minutes from October 29th 2024 motion to approve second motion to Second uh Deb please call the role Mr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Das yes Mr Cory yes lar Mr Pera yes may yes anything further Mr Das yes I'll make a motion that we approve the contract for Joshua Fado director of Maintenance motion approve negotiated as

negotiated and we have a motion a second bunch of them Deb give give it a a roll call please Mr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr di yes Mr Cory yes M lar M Pera yes may Coogan yes anything further Mr AR so over about a year ago we had a contract uh worked out for the Colin Center to do a so-called audit of the facilities and operations uh departments that has not

happened and I'd like to make a motion that we cancel this contract and save the money hasn't happened oh wait wait wait a second Mr um Mr Agia after you left I asked that's been signed if we cancel it we owe 80% that contract with the count sener is already signed so if we cancel which is if they want to vote we're getting nothing but we got to give them 80% of

the contract 80% of the 25,000 well I think the bottom line is though I haven't seen the contract I haven't either we had discussion you went out and I I asked him we did we sign with them but I'd like to who who did you have that conversation with uh Tracy and uh I think uh who else maybe was Scott Scott said we already signed so I said we so in the contract we

signed that said we'll owe them 80% if we don't do it what's the end date for when the item had to happen we can check on this before the next meeting Mr a as hell hope it wasn't 11 months well I don't know like I said we could why don't we check on it and get the facts first to see if that it's in there I haven't seen it but that's

what I was told yeah I think we should put it on as an agenda item I care that if it's what it is what it is it's 80% but if we're going to have the contract and if we have to get stuck with a contract I think it needs to be a public meeting and we need to discuss in public what is the purpose of it including all background information that the

superintendent the HR Director can get or whoever else from minutes because we were promised something the departments were all screwed up all kinds of craziness happening superintendent says we want to vote for a reog so I'm going to authorize this audit the audit turned into a review okay let's just call it like it is and put it on the agenda for the next meeting please thank you why

don't we get a copy why don't um if possible uh superintendent can you send us all a copy of that contract before you want to make point that and I can put it in writing if I have to that I'm asking that the Colin Center contract goes on the next agenda and I want that said in public so we can follow the rules thank you anything further to come before the committee I'll entertain a motion to

adjourn so move second second de call the rooll Please Mr yes Mr Bailey yes Mr D yes Mr Cory yeah ly Perera yes mayor yes adjourned