11.20.2025 Redevelopment Authority

Hey, welcome to the November 20, 2025 meeting of the Fall River Redevelopment Authority. Person through the open meeting while any person may make an audio or video recording this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium. Attendees are therefore advised that such recording or transmission are being made whether perceived or unpersceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and

permissible. First item is our roll call. John Ericson, Ron Rousen, Ben Fidleberg, Joan Medeiros and Kee. Thank you. Also joining us are Sarah Pageige, executive director, John Coughlin, legal counsel, Ken Piola, administrative consultant, and Karen Martin, our project manager.

Uh, first item, approval of uh, open session minutes from October 225.

Uh, if there's no comments on those minutes, I'll entertain a motion to approve those minutes.

Move to approve the October 22nd, 2025 open session minutes.

Second.

Second down here. Yes.

Second.

Yeah, I said yes. Ron, yes.

Already. Second actually. Yes.

Joan Medeiros. Yes.

Thank you. Uh you guys have the warrant which Joan went through which is uh total dispersements of $50,715.35.

I'll entertain a motion to approve the warrant. There are no questions.

Motion to approve the November warrant in amount of $50,715.35.

Thank you. Second.

Second.

John Ericson. Yes.

Ron Rousen. Yes.

Ben Fleber. Yes.

Joan Medeiros. Yes. Keane. Yes.

Thank you. Uh let's see. Next item is the 2024 audit. Karen.

Uh yeah. The only thing that um I wanted to update you on there is I got word from the uh retirement board and both in the in the city auditor that this the PAR Act report that allows them to finalize their allow that allows the the retirement report to finalize their numbers in audit for 2024 is probably not going to be finalized until February of 2026. So that will delay because we

take what's in their audit and put the retirement numbers into our audit before we can finalize it. So it will not probably be finalized until February at the earliest. We did get a draft report I think last week from CLA and um I've started to go through that. I don't think there's anything glaringly um uh any issues with what's in there so far. So, um, but I'll keep you posted as

as that PR act report comes out, but I just figured I'd let everybody know. So, okay. Um, cathotic protection.

Yes. Okay. So, cathotic protection um the the change order one work for all the coding there in the um the upper zones of the bulkhead. The work I talked to the project manager today. By the beginning of next week, it should be all done. And so next week we're going to be reaching out to um Carlos from FA Engineering to schedule um a final inspection. Um Kavanaaugh will take him

out on the boat and they'll do a final inspection of all of that. So I'm hoping by our next board meeting there'll be a final requisition and release of retainage for everything. So that should be done and wrapped up for winter.

Okay. Um Northfield Point uh revetment moings.

Uh the revetment work is ongoing. I don't know if anyone's been down there, but the um the stonework is is um is proceeding along. Um we've been this has been a really good week this week and into next week um with the tides at low tide. So, he's been trying to get ahead of placing the final finished stone by putting the toe in, which generally will be underwater, so it's easier to do it

when it's not underwater. Plus, it's a little warmer. You're not getting soaked working down there. So, he's been kind of getting ahead with getting the toe in place and then he's backing it up with the final stone. Um, we've got a meeting out there with the engineers. He today he was finalizing like a roughly 50 to 100 foot section of what he wants to get approved as what the final like finished

product will look like. And so hopefully we'll be able to get that approved tomorrow. Um, so that's progressing along. It looks like at the rate he's going, we're hoping to be maybe pretty much done with the revetment by the middle of December. Um, I'll be confirming that at the meeting tomorrow, but he's he's making pretty good progress. And if he can get those those toes in because that's what really

pretty much is going to stabilize the slope and takes a little bit uh longer to do, you have to be a little more um finesse. Other than that, you're just using the stone as puzzle pieces along the embankment. So, um, so I'll, um, have a better handle by our next meeting. Maybe it'll be predominantly done by then. Also, the other good news is the Executive Office of Economic Development has um funded our $125,000

earmark that was secured by Representative Fiola. And we've got word this week that um we um are going to be getting the contract documents imminently and we'll get those um processed so we can start um drawing down against that money. And um we have a vote in the um the agenda to authorize Johnny to sign those contract documents.

So, right. So, I'll entertain a motion to authorize the chair to sign all these contract uh documents associated with the $125,000 fiscal year 2026 earmark from the executive office of economic development. I just ask a question as to what I should know this, but what's the 125 been used for?

The reetment.

It's part of the reetment.

Yes. Okay.

So, there's additional monies that we've set aside for that.

Yes. Okay.

Motion to authorize the chair to sign all contract documents associated with the 125,000 for year 2026 earmarks from the executive office of economic development.

Second.

Second.

John, yes.

Ron, yes.

Fleber. Yes.

Yes.

Thank you. Next item is uh you have a package. Do we have a draft of the event application that uh Karen?

So yeah, so I I um I sent out in the board package what we're kind of considering as of now pretty close to a final um event application. I had the um the rental rates and the insurance um uh requirements in there. And the only thing that would still need to be put in there, we still need to um finalize the submission of the chapter 91 amendment for private events at the city pier. And

that's in process um now uh with beta.

And then we also, it was recommended by our insurance company to have once we know we're going to approve an event based on the details that they've given us an individual license agreement which references the event application. But um so this would be what would once we know that this is approved, we're going to go ahead. we would issue this to the um event applicant um and it would be

executed and they would then be responsible for all the insuranceances and all the things that are in the um in the application itself. Um the only other final thing that we have to do anyone have any questions on either of those documents?

No, not on documents.

Okay. And then um then the only thing we need to do is Beta just um gave us a proposal for $4,500 to finish the um the two submissions that we need to do to mass D for the chapter 91 amendment to our agreement for events at city pier.

Like right now we have the agreement is for public use events only and what we're applying for now is for private event use. So, we're doing a separate um uh uh request for the South Coast um uh event in June, and then we're doing a second request for general private events at City Pierre. And it's kind of presumed that as part of the um permission, if granted, there will be conditions that they will want us to

adhere to. and whatever those conditions are, we'll make sure they're incorporated into the um application.

Could you do me one favor?

Yes.

Under the estimated fee in the narrative, it says 5500, but the two line items total 4500. So, could you just Oh, geez.

initial exit, correct it, and initial it and send it back to them.

In the when you read when you read the narrative underestimated fee, it says not to exceed $5,500.

Then when you look at the breakout of the project task, it only Oh, okay. Oh, okay. That's based. Yep.

All right. Hold on. It's right here.

How do we determine what private function we'll allow and what one we won't allow? Who's going to make that decision?

We are as a board.

Yeah. So when we get these applications, so what I think what we're going to have to do is once we know what mass EP is going to allow or not allow.

Um we as a board will have to make a decision like how many events that we think should be really held out there of any magnitude because the one thing that we don't want is yeah it'd be great to have you know events all the time but City Pier wasn't built to be able to withstand events all the time. All that pretty green grass can go away pretty quickly with, you know, you throw down a

couple of dance floors, you throw down, you know, a lot of traffic going over it, even just foot traffic, never mind, you know, you know, truck traffic, setup traffic, and all of that. So, we we're going to have to kind of gauge, you know, in my mind, I don't really think we should have more than maybe one to two big events a month in the in the peak season. um because I just think

that the amount of damage that the city pier could um could um be exposed to would be not worth it because it's just going to raise our maintenance fees. So, you know, you're never going to get ahead on that.

I think I think D is going to be looking for a number from us.

I don't think I think they're going to You think so? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was one of the questions I was going to actually ask Beta cuz um You mean how many like a not to exceed number?

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I think that's what they're going to be looking at.

So, we got two issues, right? We get the South Coast one, that's a separate thing that we're trying to get permission for general use.

Yeah.

And I think they're going to say, "Okay, how many how many events are you looking to accommodate?" Right.

And that's what they're going if it's six, if it's seven, if it's five, whatever it is.

I think the thing that we should probably think of is like there's a peak season and like a non- peak season, right? So, your peak season would probably be late April through late September.

I don't know what the demand for the rental is for this either. I can't see it being exceptionally high at 2,000 a pop. Is that what it is?

Well, yeah. And I think that that rate was, you know, you I think that's a good rate. Yeah. I'm not saying we should lower it. I think so. But I'm just not saying it's not going to be for every job blow to have his, you know, function.

So I think you're probably I don't know.

I don't you have no idea. You want to ask for more than you want to be able to accommodate the first year. You want to have some flexibility there. So is it eight? Is it something like that? I don't know. You don't you do you want to have them prior to Memorial Day and do you want to have them after um after um Columbus Day or Veterans Day? I don't know.

All the events that we've had have been June, July, and August. And the only thing we've done in September is like yoga, right? But those don't need Yeah. Those don't need, you know, those were city sponsor.

We're not we're not closing areas down per se. Right.

Right. So I mean, but you know that would do we want to preclude like like we talked about at one point putting a skate park ice park out there in Jan, you know, February, March or you know what I mean? Like they do something like that. I don't know.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think I don't know who would sponsor that, but I think there's a there's a skating rink being proposed for another location on the waterfront.

Oh, really?

It's pretty cold and windy on the city.

Yeah, it's cold and windy.

Oh, yeah. I mean, I wouldn't be out there. I'm not going to say that. But, you know, there's some people who like that weather. So, cuz Eskimo is amongst us.

I think you just got to see what happens first year and see.

Yeah. I think we just come up with a number.

Six, eight, 10, something like I would say like yeah I mean because the thing is is that I can't see running a big function every weekend at city pier by the time you take it down you need to I don't think it should be more than two month a month yeah two a month would be what I maximum and then yeah because that that's going to be a lot of wear and tear on that facility yep

um and then but yeah maybe an eight eight's a number I don't know what if we said uh no more than two month not to exceed 10 10 over the course of the season.

Yes.

You know, if we consider the season May through October, that would make sense actually. I mean, I think that and I think we we could always if we see that the city pier has taken on too much um damage, we can always just scale it back.

I think part of it's going to be too is like how how much rain is it getting?

how much you know you know is it drying up because you know it's there so mother nature plays a big part of all that too.

So, all right. So, we'll say two per month.

Well, in the chapter 91 license, like Ken said, you that's the max, right? So, you want to ask for what you want. You don't have to use them all.

No. Right.

But once they give you that number, it's going to be hard to go back, I think.

Right.

Yeah.

So, I'd be careful about limiting it too much or only to certain times of the year because then if you want to do something in December and DP doesn't like you, I'd be careful about restricting it too much. I think I mean, we can internally restrict it.

We're only going to allow people, but for the 91 license, I don't think you want to go two.

So, I could just say two per month and see.

I don't know. I mean, or two per month, no more than 10 per year or something. I don't think And then we could decide, oh, we're only going to allow people May to October. But if D puts that in their license, then you're stuck with that, you know.

Two per month, maximum 10 per year, something like that.

Okay. 12 per year.

Well, I don't even think you got to limit it to two per month. Just 10 per year, right? Cuz who knows?

Maybe one month you want three, right? Let's give ourselves some flexibility.

All right. And then we'll I think internally we probably don't want to have more than two per month, but let's keep it open. We want to Yeah.

So that doesn't include like the kite night, the fireworks and all that, right?

No, because those are the um the public city sponsored event.

This is going pertain to private restricting the area of the green space, right? Because even in these events, the sidewalks are going to always be open.

Who's responsible for the cleanup?

They would spot the application.

Yeah.

Yeah.

These are private events $5,000 too, right?

Karen, is that is that your note about the it having the wrong statute there?

Oh, yeah. I just put that because that was based on my discussion with Laura that the license should be the 13998, not the WW.

Okay.

89.

Um, yeah. So, so Ron, I just I just need a um not when I have a full mouth, please.

Motion to approve amendment number five to Beta Group agreement to complete the submission of the modification for our 2hour chapter 91 license for events at North City Pier for a cost not to exceed $4,500 and to authorize the chair to sign amendment number five for up to 10 per year. Do we want to add that into the motion?

Well, no, because we don't know what D is going to approve. So, we're going to we'll ask for that and then once I once we get the license back, whatever they approve we'll we'll go from there.

I strike 10 per. Yeah.

So, yeah, I just got a question that may or not be applicable to that vote, but um so South Coast use application, they're charging us 2,000 to submitt. Yes.

And we're charging South Coast 2,000.

So, we're not making any money.

Right.

South Coast is charged.

South Coast doesn't really know what they're being charged yet.

Well, but according to the application fee, right, nonprofit would be 2,000, right?

Yes.

Right. So, Right. But they're they're an exception to the norm.

A number of days.

South Coast has it for a few days.

Yeah. So, South Coast technically it's $2,000 a day and South Coast is taking it for four days.

Okay. So, it's $8,000. Yes.

Okay. I just want to make sure.

Did they know that?

What's the 2,000 you talking about?

I don't know that. No, they don't.

They may know once this goes.

I just want to make sure we understand this, right? So, we're charging them from They're going to be closing that off for 4 days.

No. Well, they're going to be doing setup for four days.

We're only Okay.

The application's only asking for And we're not closing anything off.

We're not closing the walkways off except for the four hours of the event.

Correct.

Yes.

I don't know. There seems something's not right there. I'm not sure what it is, but I think that's exceptionally high for a setup of 2,000 a day when they're not really utilizing it. No, I don't see how it's going to take 4 days to set up. I That's what they That's what they've asked for.

I don't know. It seems high.

They put up a tent or what are they putting up?

Yeah.

Tents.

That's what they've asked for.

South Coast Hospital. South Coast.

South Coast Hospital.

Yeah.

Do you think we should be charging less for the days of setup and takeown?

I would think that during the days of setup, it's probably a little less because the perimeter the walkways are going to be open, right, in this in this instance. But they also need to provide security right?

Yes. They won't, right? For if they're going to be setting up whatever they're doing, I think we got to have some security there that they would pay for because otherwise they would have to provide their own security.

Correct.

Yes.

Correct.

Overnight or just so 24 hours for 3 days, they have the high security.

They would I would I would think just they want to have security there at their own risk.

They're going to have equipment there.

They're going to have whatever you think, you know, you want to have. We don't want to be responsible for that.

That's about another 1250 per day for security.

So I would think that you know there that's on them.

Yeah. I just think that maybe the setup days as a little relief. I don't know because it just seems to be harsh as opposed to the day that the functions actually on.

There's got to be some differentiation between function day and setup day.

I think I don't know.

Well, some some nobody else differentiates on their applications. Well, well, it's unusual to do four days. I mean, most people are either in and out in a not the same day.

No, even Patrick T. Well, but two days is Narrows has it down to about a day and a half.

Yeah, that's like they they do a little bit the day before, then they have the big day and then they take stuff out the next day.

But like Fourth of July starts setting up the day before.

Like a lot of the bigger ones like the um like when the um symphony was out there.

Yeah. They had a full day of setup before and a full day of takedown after.

And can people use it? They really can't use it while they're Yeah, they can walk around. Yeah, they walk around.

Not the grassy area though. Just the Well, for like the symphony was only they could the the north side where they set up. They could be on the grassy area. But mass D is only concerned about the public walkway being um open 24/7 and most of the time an event is on the north pier and the south pier is open with walkways and grass open.

Um I don't know. I think if you start charging 2,000 a day for setup well I think once we know what all the conditions are that come back from SC we can talk about what we want to do.

for I think that would have a chilling effect on some things.

Well, we haven't we haven't voted to finalize this.

No, just so maybe make it like 50% on the days of setting up.

So, so Karen South Coast already knows those numbers.

No.

No, maybe if they watch this meeting they will, but other than that, no.

Um, uh, no, because I don't so I don't know what the final conditions are going to be. there's going to be anything else that Mass D comes up with. So, she knows that there's going to be some fee. She knows there'll be an application to fill out. Um, so they're just waiting.

Okay. So, we I mean, this will be modified anyway at some point.

Yes. Yep.

Did anybody second that?

Second. What?

There's no motion. The motion over seconds. Yeah.

Oh, the motion for the beta change.

Okay. I'm back.

The 4500.

I'm back with you.

Did you I did make the motion. Yep. No second.

Second, Joan. Yep.

Okay. John, yes.

Ron Ren, yes.

Ben, yes.

Joan Mader, yes.

Okay. Thanks. Um, let's see. Next item is uh Pleasant Street Sarah.

So, the first news is that we worked with other folks around the state and Mass, Inc. to put in comments on the proposed regulations for um both affordable both housing and uh the urban renewal plan. And so the state decided to change um a number of regulations to speed up housing development and minimize environmental review to do that. and um to minimize the review of urban renewal plans. And

we're waiting to see if those uh are approved. We know that uh some environmental groups may have written comments that were not supportive. We believe a lot of supportive letters went in or testimony. There were they were taking testimony. So, um Mass Inc. with uh a lot of us assisting put in a letter from our network of economic development um people around the state with many mayors signing

including Mayor Coogan saying these regulation changes are really advantageous and they should be approved.

And the MEEPA also put out a special review procedure re um I guess it's also would be added to MEPA regulations and it would be another option and you've heard us talking about the special review procedure approach for the Deval Street land as a way to work with MEPA.

They proposed this as another option for re reviewing urban renewal plans. And we understand Tori Kim is saying, the director of MEPA, Tori Kim, is saying that any um city redevelopment authority like us, like New Bedford, that already had our urban renewal plans in the process are not going to be able to just not finish the process and go with the new regulation because we're already in

process. process. So, she would use the special review procedure with us and it's more complicated and we and a lot of um a lot of folks put in comments that said it's still more complicated for an urban renewal plan than it should be. So, we don't know how that will come out, but we do now know that we're going to be expected to go through some more process to get our urban renewal plan

approved even though the regulations are changed broadly. So, if we go in to do a an a big um significant amendment of our urban renewal plan, it would not have to go through that huge MEEP review. It would just be a simple process the way it used to be. So, that is all going to get decided in December. So probably you won't we won't um bring it to a meeting before the

January meeting, but it's possible we would know by the 18th. So the good news is that we really are getting changes that will be helpful for housing across the state and for urban renewal plans.

Um, so then the other uh update is that we've been working with the city to apply to make the Pleasant Street corridor in the Flint neighborhood um a TDI district like the TDI districts that we had in downtown. And so Fall River had TDI districts for seven years and it's very possible we're not going to be competitive for that reason and because some cities have not had TDI districts and they're hoping they may apply

and they're only funding six this year.

So, we're um we put in effort that I think will have long-term benefit even if we don't get approved to have a TDI district. We've gotten a lot of partners together and we used to have a partnership meeting once a month and um so we've got a whole really diverse group of partners committed. We have um uh Family First Health Center, which is a big health center, very um important in serving the neighborhood. Many of

their employees live in the Flint and walk there. And so they're willing to be our fiscal intermediary to accept the funds that come from mass development and uh offer a free office to the um fellow that we would get for three years and uh let our group use their um big conference room. And they're very excited about being part of this. And um the previous executive director of Health First was really involved in our

process in the beginning and so it's really great that they're staying in there. Um councelor um uh um oh my god forgetting his proposal.

Yes. Thank you, Councelor Raposo.

and um his school and the church um the spirit of Santo school and church are um really interested in staying involved.

Um lots of things have been going on in the parks which we'll be talking about.

So the challenge that we have is that we don't have all the partners you would want, but they only expected you to have you only had to have three and we have many more um including um the dentist that's been there for decades. And so I think we are have put together a good proposal. Whether it's competitive enough is a whole other question. Some cities I think have new money that

they're willing to commit. We have we're talking about the $1 million we got for Alden Street, the 1.7 for Pleasant Street. And the piece that I wanted to ask you about is in order to implement our urban renewal plan, we're probably going to spend 30 to 40 hours a month between Karen and me looking at property, moving various things forward.

And so what we'd like to say in the proposal is that we're um committing and investing significant staff time in this effort um that will make a difference for both our urban renewal plan and the TDI district.

And so I'm just wanting to make sure that um that's um that the board feels positive about that.

So are you asking for board assistance in that process or Well, certainly we'd love it. Um Joan and Lewis were both on our committee to work on the urban renewal plan for a long time. And if um you know, Ben, if you would be interested, I'd love to write your commitment in. Um I wasn't exactly asking for board commitment. I wanted to make sure the board was comfortable with our saying that our

staff are committing 30 to 40 hours a month. So you're going to quantify right the inind it's the inind right so you're going to 30 40 hours a month is going to have x amount of value y that you're going to be committing for committing as an inind service right yeah I'd put more of a dollar by what that 10 to what that 40 hours cost us instead of just saying 30 to 40 hours

say at a cost of per month of whatever the salaries are that you know you're going to be using of each and all of our fringe and fringe and supplies lies and other crap stuff.

OMB, right?

I agree with that.

Obama.

Yeah. So, an update on the North Main Downtown District, uh, which we call NMA, is that we had a really successful Thanksmiss event on Saturday, and there were tents put up and down Purchase Street, uh, food trucks, things for kids, craft thing, you know, crafts for kids. um a number of restaurants that might not have been open were open and it was a really lively event and uh bodess well for that neighborhood and

having those kinds of events. We had them in the summer and this one had garlands with lights on every tent and it really created a very festive atmosphere. Johnny was there. Do you want to say anything about it? No, it was great. It was really I mean it's a great spot for it too.

Busy.

Oh yeah. Yeah. And it was it was you know kind of cold but it was kind of nice because it was sort of felt sort of festive like you know Christmy sort of thing. But yeah there was a lot of people there and a lot of interesting. I bought a bunch of stuff like from the different artisans that had the different tents and things. They had all kinds of cool

stuff they sold and um it was a lot of fun. It was nice. I actually have a video of it I can send to you guys. I think people the people I know went they loved it. The only suggestion they made was the lighting for some of the vendors.

You know as it got dark it was a little it was difficult to see what they were selling right. So if they you know just moving forward with it is something to keep in mind.

Yeah. How many people that would be addressed well because that was always a problem when it was on Old Second Street and at least this time it was a much more dressed up in feeling more like a festive event. But you're absolutely right, lighting was a problem in some of the booze and you kind of felt for the vendors because having trouble seeing what they're trying to film.

Um and a new store opened. So um BunBuds was sold. The person who had been running it really young man just out of college. He found being an entrepreneur and and really running that store well very demanding and he decided to step back. He sold it to someone who owns a number of small rest out kind of takeout restaurants like that. And so, um, Joseph Holddeman feels really positive about that transition.

And, um, a new store went into where Time Blossom was because Time Blossom moved to the much bigger space and calls themselves Cafe Balboa. They were open during the event. And this new store is uh cheese and meats and condiments and lot of locallymade jellies and things that um they think will go well as kind of a popup during the holidays. A lot of people were in there buying things and their hope is it

might get a license so they can sell wine and then there really isn't a wine store downtown. So, um that's the long-term hope of that. And they did retail retail wine or consumption wine?

Retail. Yeah. It's not a it's not serving food. It's selling. and they have really special cheeses and um Saturday they were having us try all kinds of things.

I don't know if that's in the um maybe there was certain the October district I don't know if that's in there.

I think it might be there's an overlay district that allows for is it just seasonal or if it's year round? I'm not sure.

But I thought it was just beer and wine but I think it's just beer and wine. So that's something that because I don't think but that was to serve that wasn't retail. I don't remember. Let's go back and look.

Right. Retail's difficult, right? Cuz there's not a lot of there's a lot of not lot of turnovers in retail licenses.

Yeah, they worth a lot of money.

So, it's I'm not sure.

I think I think those were serving licenses.

They may have been because it was trying to get it was trying to open to motivate restaurants to open.

Yeah, you're right. It may not be a license.

Joseph thought it wasn't going to be too hard to get. So he may know of that provision that you're Yeah. I don't know about that. Those are expensive.

Yeah.

And is not availability, right?

Yeah.

Remember the last big to-do on that issue?

Yes, we do. Yes, we do. Yes.

And and the other thing is they're doing it as a holiday popup to test it and see if it's really viable over the long term, which it may not be, but for the holidays, it should be a nice addition. In the beginning, did you mention the I I missed in the very beginning, did you mention the the Viva Shop?

Oh, the Viva Shop um is becoming a vintage clothing store and it's supposed to be open around Black Friday.

And um Patty has um uh she's working um at the community foundation and thinks that will be positive for Fall River because she'll be involved in doing a lot of the promotion that she's done before and she'll promote Fall River. She's keeping the Viva website so that will keep going which is great. lots of us know to go there every week and see what's happening. So, um, so that continues.

And then, uh, our steering committee will be meeting on December 8th. I talked with the chief of police. She's willing to, um, come to one of our steering committees and talk about safety in the district, which uh, the businesses would really like. and our next full district meeting will be um January 14th.

So, we're moving along.

Perfect.

Isn't there something on the ETH with Liberty?

Oh, yeah. So, we're meeting later in the day with um uh we're meeting later in the day as a steering committee, but Derek at Liberty still hasn't completely confirmed the 8th, but I think we're going as a group to do a site visit in the morning on the 8th. And I need to confirm that with you all.

Uh if there's no further matters for the open session, the chair makes a fine in open session would have a detrimental effect on the negotiating position of the public body. The purpose of the executive session to approve the executive session minutes from October 22, 2025 and discuss strategy with respect to a potential real estate transactions for properties located 45 Anowan Street, Fall River, the V Street

Carter, Fall River, and a potential real estate transaction for property innovation way Fall River Mass. I'll entertain a motion to enter into executive session and we will not return to open open session.

Motion to enter into executive session and we will not return to open session.

Second.

Second. John Erikson. Yes. Ron Rousen.

Yes. And Fleberg. Yes.

John, yes.

Thank you.