11.22.2022 Fall River City Council

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Kilby here the Liberty Pelletier yeah Herrera here raposo here Washington here president Camaro here pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit this meeting to any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and not

deemed acknowledged and permissible pertain a motion to all the motion to open the public hearings proposal we have one proposed before us underground conduit Verizon New England Incorporated for an underground conduit location as follows on Duval Street install approximately 680 feet of new four inch PVC conduit along the Wall Street the installation will begin at existing manhole

mh499a at the junction of Turner Street and the Wall Street to run in the suddenly direction to 431 Duval Street this is necessary necessary to continue the existing service and to provide services to the businesses located at 431 Duval Street in accordance with the plan number Mass M8 2022-36 dated September 30th 2022 there is a condition that the roadway restoration shall be from the southerly

curve line to two feet beyond the trench are there any proponents to this public hearing come on down please state your name and address for the record

take a seat please speak into the microphone good evening Don Bonner with Verizon um I assume everybody has a copy of their map um this is usually where I get into what it typically looks like and what's going to be happening but I can tell you that I this happens from time to time but I just visited the site and the work has already been done so or at least it appears to be and I

approached the businessman at the gas station at 431 Duvall and um he said it was done just a couple months ago this is not this is news to me so this is we usually come here ask for permission and then the work gets done um so I don't know how this happened or why it happened I intend to find out because obviously I'm the one who's in trouble here so I want to find out what happened

sometimes the subcontractor will get the work and they'll just say oh and they'll go do it but to my knowledge they weren't given permission to do so the country six cups per hour um well first I'd like to applaud you for your honesty coming here and telling us that this work had been done because I was going to ask you that because I had been by there and saw but did they

also uh meet the conditions of the restoration of the road I have um pictures and it looks like it's within the two feet of the curb so it looks it looks very good I don't want to complain about the work because that looks fine and the business owner says he's very happy he's getting serviced now but the condition does appear to have been met um I I'm not an engineer I can't speak

to that fully but I do have pictures if you'd like to see them well I'm glad that you were able to say the work was done prior to what's coming for permission but then I would say on behalf of the city how did we allow work to be done without permission so I would request that we send a letter to a letter to the city engineer make him aware of this because maybe there's

something that needs to be tweaked on urine or RN and by us knowing this now we can do something to prevent something like this from happening in the future but thank you with that I yield Mr President thank you Council Council CD Council Washington no I yield she actually does anyone else have any questions yeah my only question is was going to be uh has the city engineer been made aware of it or looked at it

already um well we don't know anything other than the work's been done unfortunately he's not here with us tonight so I counselor in seat six suggestion is the best that we have right now but we definitely need answers there's no doubt I mean this kind of thing can't just randomly happen it it's amazing nobody noticed this being done it was what how many feet long almost 680.

feet of a road being torn up and nobody noticed all right with that I yield it was four inches of PVC replacement I agree with Counselor come to see five I want to add to this yeah what uh this is a type of business what kind of business is it this is Verizon Verizon I'm not sure who the subcontractor was that did it but it's it's under Verizon's umbrella responsible in the end

and the purpose is for Horizon to uh make it better for the people of our river is that why it's there I mean yeah I I driving down uh Duvall from Turner I noticed there's a bunch of buildings that have come down recently and I think it's going to be to service that whole block and that may be why nobody noticed it it's because there's construction going on there as is right now uh I can't I'm

guessing so that meal next to the gas station that was knocked down is that part of it too no no just trying to visualize you know the place and where about it is I must have missed it too but usually when the work is being done more than likely you have an application and the only way we find out if somebody complains about it and you put this thing in the request I was

the one who submitted the request for Verizon so yeah I intended to come here and ask for your permission so the fact that I'm not able to do that angers me as well so so you're saying Verizon went ahead and done it without permission yeah one of their subcontractors yeah a lot of subcontractors well you know we had people putting curb Stones back in because they took it out or we find them uh monies because they

they went ahead and done something that weren't supposed to do and you know we try to work along with them pay to find and you'll be all set but to to put this much layout pipe and nobody knows about it and they jumped the gun uh you know uh that construction company I mean uh we should know who the company is I'm not going to ask you but I'd like to

know you know later on tonight uh or tomorrow I want to call the city hall what company did start that and uh and then I'll take it from there uh you know if there's one that slips like they do is there anybody else doing the same thing you know I know guys who pull out oil tanks and never pull a permit and and they get caught but that and they

pay a good healthy fine this is not right Verizon is the one that gave the job out and the contractors you should have made sure the Verizon uh make sure that the contractor wasn't going to start until he was supposed to stop so so that's the way I feel and I get to find out who it is and uh we got to be more careful that's it with that ideal thank you because I think the problem

was that they didn't get permission from the council but the clerk's going to get shed some light they did go through the proper channels I believe so Clark's gonna shut some light on the premise that were pulled in permission I was granted not by the council but by the city engineer I believe right so once we receive this petition on October 26th the request was sent to the city engineer for the approval of this

petition and he did approve it with the condition that's listed on your agenda tonight so he is aware of this particular petition I can't speak to the work done prior to us receiving the petition but this one he has definitely approved and is aware of dude does it say who the contractor was it does not okay so we'll find out more okay tomorrow there'll be no further questions thank

you for coming down thank you for your honesty and uh let's try to prevent it from happening again let's hope it passes tonight no yeah are there any opponents to this public hearing any opponents seeing none I'll now entertaining emotion Too Close motion to close the public hearing has been made by College Pro second by Council Washington all in favor aye motion carries

public meeting is ended now it's time for the coach committee and finance clerk will call the roll Council skadeem Dion here Kilby here little liberty Pelletier here Ferreira here raposo Washington yeah president Camara here pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit this meeting to any medium attendees are therefore advised at such

recorded or Transmissions are being made whether perceives or unperceived by those present and not deemed acknowledged and permissible I do want to state that councilor Kadeem had spoken to me earlier and he cannot be at tonight's meeting I mean his prior commitment and the council Elizabeth was on her way to join just running a little behind

we have citizens input time anyone sign up no one signs up tonight election must be over item number two is discussion and we got section 108 loan application with the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development for the replacement of fire apparatus and Equipment it was referred on the council November 8 2022.

please come down although we know who you are just state your name and address for the record appreciate it and title director of Community Development for the city of Fall River uh 205 Chase Street Somerset Mass good evening councilors uh fire chief Roger St Martin I live at uh one Stony Brook Court Westport Mass so good evening the rules not for the chief he comes from Westport it's fine I'm

comfortable I still have a housing foreign and gentlemen feel free to State your business address instead of your home address next time it's quite all right you're representing the city you can State one government center and whatever the address is and find headquarters because we don't need to wave the rules there it's a finance committee okay we don't remember a lot of people from outside the city speak

during Finance it's an irregular meeting that we need to weigh the rules okay you're right do you guys want to give us a brief scenario of what we're doing here and sure um in front of you tonight you have a section 108 loan application in the amount of 2.5 million dollars for your approval and that money is to use to upgrade via apparatus um this application process is not new if you recall several years ago frcda

was successful in obtaining a little less than five million dollars for the replacement of Aging Fire Equipment the city replaced seven fire vehicles ranging from fire Pumpers to an aerial platform truck uh this application is for 2.5 million dollars the phone funding will be used to replace ladder truck 4 and engine 9.

uh CDA followed its citizens participation plan we had public hearings held on August 17th and September 7th uh the 30-day public comment period based on August 26th and finished on September 27th uh the chief and I are here to answer any questions you may have good evening believe me let me start off with I am and not against apparatus but getting new replacing fixing none of them I'm all for it my

question is on a 108 loan application um with those funds it's specifically for low to moderate income areas yes it's it's too it's to provide services to the low-income population of the city okay so I'm just going to read one sentence in this letter this equipment Will Serve All City residents the majority of which alone to moderate income and this may sound like a super question

but if it's meant for low to moderate and it's supposed to be in the areas that um comply with that and as much as you can't pick and choose which houses you don't stop from burning down how can it be utilized everywhere this is 61 percent LMI overall anything that's over 50 percent can be done city-wide so that fire truck in the pumper that the ladder truck can go anywhere in the city

and be placed in any fire station in the city okay very good so we don't pick and choose which houses we go based on if the person's low income or not exactly I think we'd have a problem with that I just I just know that with the 108 loan that that would be the questions out there that would be some you know beating the drum and clarification sometimes I might add the fact that they

will be housed at the Flint fire station which has a a low-income area as well and I think as the um the burns power tool fire recently Illustrated that every piece of apparatus was there and um Oliver as well two Reserve apparatus were there as well so again any fire that we have in the city we send three engines two ladders in heavy rescue which is more than half the city more than half the resources we

have in the city that's required by NFA standards so they will be used throughout the city I mean as sad as it is that that's our income level over what sixty percent you said City one it's actually lower now it was 60 point 63.3 in the last census of 2010 it's a little bit less than 61 but if you look on page four you can see exactly what the low income percentages

are for each one of our fire stations they range from 93 in the central fire station and Stanley Street is 44 that's a sad statement it's it's unfortunate that that's where we are but I suppose fortunate that we can have the apparatus and in terms of the burns power tools and I know I'm off track but I have to tell you I can't believe what a great job was done there I listened to that

from beginning to end on the scanner I don't know how you didn't lose that how you that whole building that whole didn't get wasn't destroyed that was incredible thank you like always we try to put out the fire in the original um where it originally starts but um in this case with the uh the amount of materials in there the construction of the building were able to stop the fire through the building well we were able

to condense it I'll keep it to that building itself you know so again we like to put it out before it gets out of control but on arrival we had Flames coming out of the middle of the roof of the building the building I believe is 140 feet long and 100 feet wide connected on this on both sides to other properties so uh yes a personal unseen did a phenomenal job

thank you very much with that I yield and all the batteries there it was also because they had new fire trucks and that's why we need more that's a truism I have to agree with uh Dion yeah there's no doubt we need more and believe me like that's that's why I started this off with absolutely always behind it always supportive of it um safety is the number one priority it

has to be in this city thank you emotionally critical Council second

thank you thank you councils thank you thank you gentlemen item number three discussion for Law and Order for the CPA Central fire station and 405 Museum in the amount of one million twenty five thousand five hundred thirty nine dollars it was referred on November 8 2022. you wanna come down please

good evening Council council president uh John Brandt 116 Rock Street Fall River oh here comes Sandy foreign Sandy Dennis 132 Highland Avenue Fall River country six counts priority any questions uh to Mr Brandt and Mrs Dennis I'm happy to see this come before us we have been trying for so long to get that fire Museum up and running um and in borrowing this money what will CPA put into this yearly

I think you can't put the whole thing in at once obviously you have a historic or all right you're putting it in all in at once they've put in quite a few years and probably it's around 7 50. yeah they put cpcs funded them for I'd say at least three or four years yeah so to kind of put the project to an end they put a big Clump into their application this time as did

Central fire station right and because they were two related projects we were able the committee was able to put them into one Bond so they could actually get done the fire Museum could actually and Central and then Central fire station could really start to get a really Kickstart I believe on John the front facade of the building yeah this should uh get the fire museum open summertime

as long as the roof goes in they have Windows I talked to Mike LePage who's uh head of the fire Museum working on that forever Michael yeah it's a great group of people down there it's they're picking out uh because everything's got to be to uh Secretary of State Standards so they picked out a tile that goes on a roof and that's what they're working on now it's been kind of a slow process but

as soon as that goes up the windows are done they've already did on their own uh handicap accessibility to the bathrooms and stuff so they should be open to the public hopefully this summer oh that'd be wonderful and Central fire station the central fire station I wish they would have came in with both the Bedford side and the other side because I think doing in one shot would have been great but

the front of it is going to be restored to looking like it was back in 1900 when it was built it still has a lot of life to it I think when it's done it's going to be a showcase for that street and revitalizing the neighborhood I mean it's going to have a little pride and not just Fall River the fire department it's going to shine well thank you and I applaud all the

work that the CPA does you have a great committee there working on a lot of things a great clerk to make sure things get moving and nobody can move things like Sandy Dennis so thank you just just to kind of shed a little bit of light on it um the central fire station amount was for 6. 644 472 and the fire Museum was 463.080 which would have given us well

over a million dollars if we were if the committee were to fund them separately it wouldn't have allowed the committee to really fund any other projects this year so by doing a five-year combined bond with them they were able to not only fund the fire Museum in full Central fire station and all they were able to do Father Kelly Park lights which was another four hundred thousand dollar project and then they also did

the Westport extension to the quickest hand rail the copacot river land acquisition Barnabas Workshop restoration um and then the Dr Fisk house the greater Florida Art Museum the Antioch School the historic savings Church in the Massasoit five so by bonding they were able to fund all those projects this year if they didn't bond it really would have just been those two projects or maybe one of them and one of them

wouldn't have been or partially funded and I think John can attest I guess one of the goals of the committee is to try to fund these projects so they can get completed we were actually one of the first CPC committees in the state to use uh bonding as an extra additive way of funding because the quicker Shan rail trail which was our first one five years ago which is paid off now uh we wouldn't

might not be seeing the Alfred uh Lima quick Sentra right now because it would have raised the money through private sources and that so we came in then they got Federal funding State funding so bonding is a big help to us and some of the big projects uh the bio Reserve in 2019 we did uh what a combined 44 Acres of open space that we preserved for Fall River I thought that bonding was a very wise

thing to do because you you get that money every year from CPA so to pay you off on a bond um you really get more bang for your buck and and I I thank you Mr Grant for all the work you do when as chairman when we do bonding we don't like to go over this year uh the state's given us another 30 percent match so we'll end up with about 2.5 million to use for

funding so as a committee or as a chairman I don't like to go over the 2.5 when it comes to bonding just in case something happens we have the reserve there to pay off our bond so the city wouldn't be held liable because we have the money coming in to pay for it so we take that into consideration when we're bonding we don't want to over stretch ourselves well thank you and if it wasn't for Mr

Lima putting the CPA together and pushing for it all these other communities were getting money out of the registry of deeds and we were yeah um so I thought that was good and it certainly has proven to have been beneficial to the city and all of the things that you just mentioned and other things to get done but again thank you and your committee very much with that I yield Mr President

Washington hi I'm very excited about the fiery Museum we're talking about the fire Museum on South Main so what can the residents anticipate like you're saying the summer it's going to be open for visits right they'll have uh they have old fire trucks in there they have artifacts from uh every fire they have artifacts from 9 11.

um pretty much you'll be able to go in there and see the history of Fall River fire department um so uh yeah it'll be uh it'll be nice for kids to go in and see it and because every kid loves a fire truck yeah they really do the is the animal control housed in there now all right yes are they going to be relocated I don't know okay there's been talk about uh

relocating them and having the museum take the whole thing over which would be nice yeah that really would be nice yeah and the hours of operation you don't know yet with that not off top of my head no okay that's exciting though so yeah with that I yield thank you thank you Council accountancy too good evening hi so the 600 000 is going to do what that's going to replace uh some of the

brick mortar uh there'll be new fire doors obviously the fire doors won't be the same as back then because you need speed and all this but they've uh looked into matching as close as they can the new window sills will be replaced with the new window seals being done we didn't want to go to the expense of doing the windows and putting air conditioners in so part of CPC we can put split minis in

so now the upstairs will have air conditioning heat to preserve the building so what qualifies under CPC money and then the emblems on the outside they'll be redone the lighting will be replaced well replaced to what was there so it'll look exactly like it did when it was first built well that'll be very nice yeah um I guess my next question would actually be more directed to Chief Oliveira and the administration um

in terms of has the roof been repaired on that building is this going to complete the envelope I know they always say you do the envelope first then you do the inside of the building because that's how you you stop further damage they came to us uh a few years ago to do the roof so the roof has been done so that's finished has the was the problem with the mold inside the building mitigated

that I'm not sure that that I have to look into I don't know that's kind of out of our sure

Chief welcome back can you just explained the mold's been removed I'm sorry sir can you just explain to us whether or not it's been removed yeah I own the roof at the center fire station has been um replaced about three years ago I think the mold issue is actually at the Stanley Street fire station and not the center fire station I don't remember there being a mold issue there just speaking to um

Chief Oliveira he doesn't recall any mold issue down there at all but there was one serious mold issue at the stainless Street fire station that has been remedied that's been remedied yes correct so with with a mess taking over the central fire station they're no longer going to be at Commerce Way um there's right now this where their headquarters are going to be and again from speaking with that's going to be

the central location for their response units not their headquarters the response units will be at Commerce Way no no at the center yeah response units will be um the majority of their response units will be headquartered at the center fire station for right now um their um their headquarters will still be co-located with the Florida fire department at 140 Commerce Drive and that was talked about previously

that that uh they were going to the Enterprise fund would fund an expansion at Commerce Way for EMS I think the administration was going to speak on that tonight possibly are you welcome to come down and explain what's Mr President isn't there a point of order that we're talking about these people well it's because because CPA is funding this building I'm curious as to how much work is left and if there isn't

going to be an expansion at Commerce Way and they're going to use the Enterprise fund to complete any necessary repairs on Central fire station so that we have a fully functioning uh fully repaired um Central fire station so it is connected well we'll answer it real briefly but I think it's time to drift a little bit from the issue so you can explain it real briefly and then

we'll go back to what's up oh not at all it's good to be here uh very briefly the um EMS does intend to uh make additional investments in the center fire station uh in order to upgrade bathrooms make sure that it can accommodate both female and male Personnel more than it does now uh they're going to deal with interior spaces to make sure that they have all the the spaces they need important to

keep in mind that the center fire station is not going to be without firefighters there is going to be fire apparatus that remains there as well as firefighters so it's going to be a joint station it's just going to have a larger concentration of rescues there but there's going to be significant investment by EMS in that building but that's not so I believe that they were approved a bond for a certain amount of

money up on Commerce Way the investment in Center is not going to be that entire amount and there's ongoing conversation as to um you know where to go from here this is going to to be sort of an operational Center in terms of their administrative headquarters that's still going to be co-located for the time being and we're looking at different options moving forward thank you okay thank you I think that

was important because now we have a whole picture instead of a half a picture thank you and I will support the funding with that I yield there we go there'll be no further questions thank you very much for coming down thank you thank you appreciate it entertain a motion Ferrero

all in favor aye any opposed motion carries regular city council meeting will begin I'll attain a motion to a general Finance Finance made by Council second by cosmoposa all in favor of the city councilman will begin at seven o'clock

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Dion here Kilby yeah little liberty here Pelletier yeah Carrera yeah raposo Washington yeah president Camara here we're in the country Channel please rise what's the flag I pledge allegiance of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty we have a moment of Silent prayer please

pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit this meeting to any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and not deemed acknowledged and permissible Madam Clerk Mr President the first item before you say communication from the mayor

requesting the confirmation of the appointment of Kristen Cantera Oliveira motion to community preservation committee second motion to confirm has been made by content C2 comes to Dion second by constant C seven counter proposal on the motion roll call on the confirmation of Mrs Oliveira Council skedim Dion yes Kilby yes the Liberty yes Pelletier yes Pereira yes reposo yes Washington yes president Camara yes

questions foreign next item before you is a request from the mayor for the confirmation of Al Oliveira as the Director of City operations motion to confirm second we should confirmatively made by content seat three counts of Kilby seconded by constant C six counts of Pereira and the motion counter C2 count to the end yeah I'm not going to be supporting this and the reason why it has nothing to do with the

person it has to do with the salary um I don't think the tax payers of the city huh can afford another large increase and uh we've had more Personnel we've had a lot of raises we've plugged our budget with Opera funding we don't know I don't know how we're necessarily going to be able to afford it all in the future So based on that reason alone nothing to do with the individual just based on the

salary it was a 120 to 140 they started at the the top number and with that I yield thank you councilor motion Council five doing it to speak on this yeah you know we've been looking for somebody and we get somebody and we had somebody before that was going to come that didn't make it and we need somebody good and I said it before uh you got somebody that qualifies got a track record uh

like the water department is another individual I think uh he's going to be here you're paying a good money uh I believe he can do a good job he was here before and you know uh we can turn around all say no hey too much money what do we do then yeah we gotta move uh can we get somebody cheaper probably so who knows but the the thing was they come up with a figure

he's he's all right with the figure this the Mayors are right with the figure and I think the figure that he gets I think uh we can work along with him and I think we will be well satisfied with that idea thank you okay yeah I would have to agree with councilor Pelletier when you look at the individual it is on the individual in my opinion because this individual happens

to know the city of Fall River very well worked here before um knows his way around the city and he has a lot of experience and if you hire someone that has a lot of experience in the long run they save you money with the experience that they have and how they can get people to work together and cross-train people and there's a lot of different factors that go into it so for

that is the reason why I'm supporting it because I'm a firm believer that with the experience that an individual has they should be compensated for their experience with that I yield thank you hey Council Washington I'm just gonna go with that you get what you pay for you know someone that operates clinics you want the best physicians you want the best therapist you pay for them and you

pay for all of their experience and counselor and seat six absolutely correct someone with that cow or someone with that saves a ton of money with that expertise so we are blessed to have him I will be supporting this with that council president I yield thank you Council seat seven Contra posa two questions through you Mr President um what is the length of the contract Mr Oliver

the only thing I would request I mean I think there are some pressing issues that need to be solved when it comes to City operations I think it'd be important to if missed Oliveira is confirmed kind of check back in six months to a year and just to see what progression we've made I think we've talked a lot about some issues over time and I just like um if Mr Oliver has

confirmed in the administration to come back and say you know these are the things we're tackling this is where we are with that and keep us in the loop because I think this position can do some good things for the city we want to make sure that that is followed through with I yield to you thank you question Council very good points by all of you thank you councilors so motion has been

made and second we had discussion roll call on the motion to confirm Mr Oliveira as the Director of operations Council skadin Dion no Kilby yes well Liberty yes Pelletier yes Pereira yes proposal yes Washington yes president Camaro yes ocean carries congratulations congratulations okay Mr Oliver is present welcome and congratulations

the next item is the communication from the mayor and a resolution authorizing submission of a section 108 loan guarantee application the U.S Department of Housing and Urban Development for aging fire apparatus and equipment second the proper motion motion to accept and place on fire communication and adoptive resolution okay motion has been made by Council Kelby seconded by Council Dion all in favor

any opposed motion carries the next item is a communication from the mayor in a loan order for phase 22 for lead service removal in the city's Water Systems in the amount of four million 675 thousand dollars motion authorized we published a refer to committee on finance yep motion has been made consecuted by Council Kobe recycled by motion mirror Council Kobe second by Council prayer on the motion

constant C2 concert Dion yes can uh we have Mr Franklin come down to just kind of explain uh a little bit about this loan application Etc we're in the middle of the city council meeting we'd have to waive the rules um motion to waive the rules second Marshall wave rules are made by Council Dion second by councilor Pelletier all in favor aye are opposed motion carries come on down Mr Fallon

please give us a brief scenario of what you're going to be doing what thank you very much a million and 675 thousand dollars yes thank you very much councilman so this loan authorization is the lead service replacement uh throughout the whole entire it's not going to include the whole entire city but it will be at certain uh locations throughout the city we have roughly about uh 3 500 or so with the full Apostle LED

Services throughout the city this loan authorization will be supported um by srf funding that's the mechanism for the bipartisan infrastructure law funding to be able to funnel down through us so essentially what we need to do is take a loan order take a loan from the srf program and then they will provide us principal forgiveness on that loan over the next four years I will be embarking on a large lead service

replacement program which will include over 17 million dollars of funding this loan order being a portion of it as well as some other grants that will uh will be announced and I plan on asking the council as well to use three million dollars of the Opera funding that you provided through the Bristol County Treasury for lead service removal as well so essentially this loan order um won't be the responsibility of the

taxpayers and it won't have to come out of your funding either uh a portion of it will so um the discussion so far that I've had with the uh with the treasury uh through the mass clean water trust uh is they're talking uh bipartisan infrastructure or loan forgiveness of anywhere from 30 to 50 percent or more of the loan that we take so the overall plan of the next four years would be 17

million dollars of spending and uh the only burden onto the rate pays would be roughly about a three million dollar loan as long as that bipartisan infrastructure law spending comes through as uh as they've been discussing it and that three million is what's represented on this on this last page um the start of the long-term debt the effect on the water rate Etc that's what this breakdown is is based on that three

million yes so on a three million dollar Bond it's an eight Cent increase on the water rate in Year One yeah so in uh so if that was approved this year 2025 would be the first year essentially that we would uh see that on the uh on The Debt Service when I built this uh I went with the lower of the principal reduction which was only 30 percent I wanted to be conservative to

make sure so if it goes up to 50 loan reduction uh then that would be less of an effect on the water rate um so eight cents per CCF would represent approximately how much per quarter on a water bill

uh so that's uh about a dollar ten per quarter on a water bill okay um this is going to be authorized to be published and I'm going to refer to committee on finance we're going to have all your finances just to let you be aware of that all we're going to do now is automatically published and refer to finance okay that's fine um I was a point being made but that's okay um

the point can continue to be made I'm just saying in the interest of what we're doing here we're just going to refer this item to the finance committee I understood that thank you and that was my last question that I knew thank you any other further questions do you want to refer to Mr Phil while you're down here other counselors still want to ask questions seven counts proposal real quick Mr

Franklin does have any anything to do with the letter that we all received recently does any way connected to that uh so the failure to removal at service yep well the letter that the all residents received about the failure to remove alleged Services was uh in relation to uh calculation that dep did based on a five-year removal uh so fi they say that we had five years to remove all the rest

of the lead services within our city uh I disagreed on that calculation in abundance of caution we agreed to send the letter out to all of all of the customers throughout the city and does this help to start remedying that issue without a doubt thank you sir I yield thank you constitute for Council Liberty just a quick question is this going into the homes or just to the sidewalk nope so this will be uh this

city is going to commit to do a full lead service replacement so do all the way from the main all the way into the media and then also so there's 756 lead services that are full from the media uh to the main we're also going to be going back to all the ones where we've removed from the main to the curb stop and removing from the curb stop into the

house so when we had talked I think it was back in the spring there was going to be a possibility for homeowners to uh have funds to do that but this is going to replace that this this will right exactly so we're not going to do a loan or program or anything like that between this and the other grants that we've that we're being secured we're going to use that funding to fund all of

it I'll be no cost to the homeowners correct excellent thank you I yield thank you Council thank you Mr Phelan Mr President Council seat five Council yeah I thought to miss the film a few minutes ago he had another issue he wanted to talk about and I just want to ask him what was the issue that you wanted to talk about um so again I just want to make sure

that this keeps moving it's a very it's time sensitive so that we can get the work started the loan authorization as well and then uh the next item on the agenda as well as a time sensitive but it was the a of B um so both of them foreign

to be published and referred to the committee on finance already I'll entertain the all in favor aye any opposed motion carries Sam Cooke the next item before you is a communication from the mayor in an order for the acceptance of the Adirondack Farm located on Blossom Road lot w-15-0021 and a land grant resolution for this parcel

well you know if uh Mr Phil had something to say about this one or the other one I would ask that he come down and and speak on it but we have the rules he can do it but okay I think he did

that's what he said but he can come down and tell you the same thing is there emotion has been made to waive the rules in the second second and emotional in favor to film and come back down please motion carries keep it short counselors thank you very much for the time again yeah um so this is in relation to Adirondack from the purchase which the council has supported with the Bristol County Treasury funds uh we're

also getting grants from other funds as well and it is time sensitive in relation to the land grant if there's any specific questions thank you thank you very much thank you thank you satisfied counsel with that thank you motion happy made it seconded all in favor aye motion comes any opposed oh it still carries you have a number of traffic I don't refer to organizations from the traffic

commission second most deferred yards committee has been made by content seat a council Washington second the accountancy three Council Kelby okay how was the country proposal I'm sorry my head's down when you're making those motions I apologize motion has been made by constant seat six I stand correctly Pereira second by Council proposal in seat seven all in favor aye any opposed motion carries

next item is a communication from the planning board recommending the acceptance of Courtney Street extending from Highland Avenue to Fieldstone Lane along with the order for the plans is there a motion about someone filed and recommend the adopted order for plans motion is made by Council Pereira second by Council Washington all in favor aye any pose the next item is a committee report the

committee on finance at a meeting held on November 8 2022 voted unanimously to recommend that the accompanying resolution be granted leave to withdraw with Council Pamela as the Liberty apps and now voting this is the resolution regarding the administrative Community utilities investigate harvesting energy from specialty designed in-pipe turbines adopt committee's recommendation to Grant to leave to withdraw second

okay so motion has been made to adopt by counting C two second by constant C5 all in favor on the motion on the motion Council perrano the only thing I have to say is I don't think that people really investigated this the way that I think maybe it should have been investigated because if you go behind Wild gem where the old quickashan River piped out in big pipes to run out

you can't tell me there's not enough water pressure coming through there to stick a turbine and get some get some energy back I mean I don't know what degrees anybody has that was checking this to see about the designs I mean the committee you know vetted it out and they've given it leave to withdraw and I'll vote on it because you know the committee did that due diligence but I got to tell you I

mean let's get a little proactive try to do things a little differently and you go behind wow Jim you can hear that water rushing and if we're not harnessing that power it just kind of disappoints me but nevertheless IU Mr President we can always revisit it Gaza we can always send back and have someone else go look at it in the future so it may be right maybe some person

maybe other people can see it in a different way but we did our role yeah well motion has been made and uh seconded all in favor aye any opposed motion carries the next item is a proposed ordinance for second reading and enrollment amending the salary schedule for the director of the Fall River Emergency Management agency proportion to make past your second reading and enrollment motion and

enrollment has been made by Council reposo seconded by Council Pereira all in favor aye any opposed motion carries

the next item is April for nordinance for the amendments to the graffiti ordinance also for second reading and enrollment motion of Pastor second reading in enrollment second motion Pastor second reading and enrollment has been made by constitute seven Council proposal seconded by constituency two Council Dion any discussion all in favor aye aye any opposed seat six opposed not on the whole thing

but I'm opposed to how it's going to be paid and in this ordinance there's nothing where somebody can come and and appeal it there's no appeal process in this and I think in every ordinance there's usually an appeal process so that is the reason that I oppose but I do think we have to clean up graffiti around the city with that I yield thank you Council seat two noted do we noted as opposed motion tool carries

the president was that counselor in seat number six culture C6 has proved ACC too yes yeah thank you I apologize she made the motion yeah I said we fix it we got it straight okay good job coaches the next item is a proposed ordinance proposed ordinance for miscellaneous traffic for second reading and enrollment as amended most to adopt second reading and enrollment motion to adopt second meeting in a room has been

made by counting seat six counts Pereira second second by constitute seven controposal all in favor aye any opposed motion carries next item is an order from Verizon New England Incorporated for the installation of approximately 680 feet of underground conduit On The Wall Street with the condition that roadway restoration shall be from the Israeli curb line to two feet beyond the trench

so what's the problem appropriate motion to table because we don't know the whole story to adopt it because it's already been done even though it's passed and the engineer knows about it but you can vote anywhere you want oh I don't care I just I'm just saying a moot point yeah it is it's after the fact correct answer we all he made it very importantly clear that that happened and we should find out why it

happened and hopefully it doesn't happen again but it's not the first time it's happened other people have done it sometimes it's an emergency situation sometimes it happens and they just get the work done and then they come to the council and beg for forgiveness but anyone can vote their conscience counted seat six counts per hour I would make a motion to adopt but I really would like to know who the

contractor was and how the contract how'd that slipped through if we could find out from Administration and no it can prevent it from happening going forward but I make a motion to adopt second to approve one of the ways we can do a counselor is to put in an order into a resolution that if it happens again there's going to be a very Hefty fine and once they get there very

Hefty fine they'll stop doing it right so I know what the penalties right now but there's got to be some compensation for it because it's just it's not right you know unless it's an extreme delicate situation of emergency which I don't think this was so we can look into it see what happened see what it fell through the cracks if we could look into it and just uh send an email to the

counselors to let us know what happened here and how would you Rectify it so it doesn't happen again okay so a motion to adapt and with that I yield motion to adopt a movie by constitute sex Council Pereira seconded by accountancy two Casa Dion all in favor aye any opposed motion counties we have the police Chiefs report on licenses motion to adopt the Chiefs report on licenses has made accountancy two

Council Dion seconded by who and second continent thank you

oh oh all in favor aye sorry all opposed motion carries you have a number of claims motion refer to Corporation Council motion refer to claims to call practice accounts are made by concert seat seven causes proposal seconded by Council C2 Council Dion all in favor aye any opposed motion carries we have minutes from the planning board for October 17 2022.

motion to accept and play some files same question accepting places proposal all in favor aye any opposed motion carries we have a structure or an over a public way application for the annual children's holiday parade for two banners on Bedford Street at Central fire station in South Main Street at Center place motion to adopt second motion to adopt is made by counting c three counts of

Kilby who seconded the motion I did counter let's see I'm talking about Council C6 counts of Pereira ma'am cook could you just tell us what day that's going to be on so we can give people another episode it will be Saturday December 3rd at 1 pm Saturday December 3rd at 1pm perfect thank you motion being seconded all in favor aye any opposed and we make a motion to take item 17 to

22. second second motion to take items 17-22 has been made by Council per hour second by constitute two counts of Dion all in favor aye before we vote on the motion Council man o'clock can you read item 17-22 please these are city council minutes public hearing October 25th 2022 committee on finance and regular meeting all for the same date and then we have for November 8th public hearings committee on finance

and regular meeting minutes motion to approve second motion to approve has been made and seconded all in favor aye any opposed motion carries the next item is the communication from the from the Department of Public Utilities regarding Municipal aggregation programs motion will be the place acceptance made by concert C6 counts Pro second by constant seat seven controposal all in favor aye any opposed motion carries

I also have a communication from good energy regarding Municipal aggregation programs compliance

motion carries committee on finance at a meeting held on November 22nd 2022 voted unanimously to recommend that the accompanying application be refer to the full Council for action with counselors Shawnee Kadeem and Pamela s the Liberty absent and now voting this is the application for the section 108.

for uh without HUD application second motion to approve has been made by counter C3 Council Kilby second by Council seven counts proposal all in favor aye aye any opposed motion carries the committee on finance at a meeting held on November 22nd 2022 voted unanimously to recommend that the accompanying loan order be referred to the full Council for action with Council Shawnee kadim Absa and now voting this

is for the loan order for the CPA Central fire station and the Fall River fire Museum in the amount of 1 million 25 539 motion to approve second motion to adopt or be in order made by Council seat six God's prayers seconded by constitute seven cultural proposal on the motion roll call on the motion to adopt the loan order Council skedim Dion yes Kilby yes the Liberty yes Pelletier yes Pereira yes proposal yes

Washington yes president Camara yes motion carries City cards will take a five minute recess for the ordinance can be signed

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we have the proposed ordinance for the salary schedule for the director of the Fall River Emergency Management Agency for ordination motion to pass through ordination so I can pass through our needs to be made by counting C2 Council deals seconded by counter seat six counts Pereira all in favor aye any opposed pushing carries next item is also proposed ordinance for ordination amendments to the graffiti

ordinance motionless pass through order Nation fast forward nation has been made by Council C7 cultural proposal signed by counting C2 counter Diana all in favor aye aye any opposed motion carries and Clerk and the last item is a proposed miscellaneous traffic ordinance for passage throughout Nation as amended motion to pass the coordination as amended second password nation has

amended made by count proposal seconded by Council seat six Casa Pereira all in favor on the opposed motion carries second second motion to adjourn has been made by counting C3 Council Kelby second by Council C seven countroposo all in favor aye any opposed Happy Thanksgiving good night everyone have a wonderful Thanksgiving be safe out there