The Fall River Licensing Board convened on Monday, February 25th, 2024, with Chairman Greg Braca and members Michael Perea and Melanie Cadero. The board approved several one-day liquor permits for the Police Athletic League's boxing events in January 2025, with one member abstaining. A one-time extension of hours until 1:00 AM on Thanksgiving Eve for The Liberal Club was also unanimously approved. Additionally, an entertainment license for Cornerstone Lounge, allowing live and recorded music, was granted unanimously. A significant portion of the meeting involved the unanimous approval of numerous 2025 renewal licenses across Class 1, 2, and 3 auto sales and repair businesses, fortune teller establishments, and lodging houses. Two auto sales renewals, Jaz Auto and Repair and Cavalo's Tire and Auto Center Inc., were approved in a separate vote where Chairman Braca abstained due to a conflict of interest. A new alcohol common victualler license application for Taste of Paradise was withdrawn by the applicant after a site visit by city departments revealed non-compliance issues. The board also held a lengthy discussion with Brian Andre regarding the status of his suspended license for Mickey Doyle's Inc DBA Mickey Doyle Sports Pub. Mr. Andre sought to maintain his license, but the board clarified that a license cannot be held without a physical location and that he had failed to turn in his physical license as previously instructed. Despite Mr. Andre's financial difficulties and claims of unfair treatment, the board informed him that his license would lapse on December 31st, and he would need to reapply for a new license once he secured a location and financial stability, emphasizing that there are other licenses available in the city.
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meeting on the for of a licens board Monday February 25th 2024 will come to order to my right of members Michael perea and Melanie cadero I'm attorney Greg BR chairman of the board um for us I need to read pursuing to the open meeting L any person may make a audio or video recording of this public meeting and may transmit the meeting to any media attendees are therefore advised that such recordings are Transmissions
0:24are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledge and permissible City Charter section 9-18 mandates that all multiple member bodies develop and adopt rules or policy for public comment we have adopted such a policy which in short provides public input at license of board specific matters at the beginning of the meeting there was a signup sheet that is located in the back
0:47of the room anybody sign up okay we will then go to um item two one day permits a p31 Franklin Street Charles cullin uh applying for one day liqu permits for 111 1118 125 and a snow date of 2125 I assume Mr K that's if any of those get canceled for some reason yes and I would notify the board if we use it okay can you please state your name and address for the record please uh
1:21Charles J Cullen Police Athletic League for River 31 Franklin Street for River I'm the president for the organization okay um this is your boxing event yes it's an annual event so obviously uh as you said it's annual been done many many many years probably 40 at our location and obviously you're well aware of all the you know the restrictions and the police will be on duty to make sure
1:48everything's in order correct yes we always saw you um any questions from the board I'm I'm going Upstate so I'm on the board of director of Police Athletic all right any other questions anybody out there uh in favor of the petition anybody opposed so we going to have a motion to uh on this matter I'll make a motion to approve the one-day permit for the Police Athletic League for the following dates of January 11th
2:14January 18th January 25th of 2025 with the snow date of February 1st 2025 I'll second that motion any questions on a motion okay none all those in favor I I uh let the record note that uh uh member forever obained all Mr call thank you good luck with everything see you later item number three one time uh extension of ours uh the Liberal Club 20 star Street Deborah
2:52buron hi you please St your name and address for the record please Stacy Assad 96 gos Street FL over Massachusetts and I'm here on um Donna brion's account okay what's your affiliation with the club I'm assistant Bob maner okay can you tell me why you're here but uh Thanksgiving Eve want to open up until 1:00 qu1 just for one day we have a DJ coming in and we have a 10:00 license right
3:23now is this something that's done annually no okay um I'm going to I'm going to is there any special anything special they got to do with police or just with an extension of ours nope I can I what I simply do is just write them a quick letter and I stamp it with your with the board stamp stating that it was granted so it's because you have a DJ it's going to be we usually close at
3:5110 we want to close a quarter one instead why make sure it's all legal yes I I don't I mean I personally don't have a problem with Club I don't think we have any issues there that I know of um so U you are going to open up the so Thanksgiving Eve it's traditionally uh you know fun uh night for a lot of people you know you can get a little
4:12Rowdy on WE full not at the liberal because you guys always do excellent job and you feast in the summer and I know you hire police officers would you consider hiring a detail for this event we're not going to need a detail so that's I'm I'm going to prer to you cuz it's not it's a DJ it's not a big band it's not a the name just something to do
4:31we put all C some food out for the regular members do you have a phone you can call 911 oh yeah absolutely I only te no but you know things get could get exciting well good luck with him thank you support I do know that that happens I agree with Mr Pera but I think because of your track record let's hope that that uh um that that keeps the way it always Happ yeah
4:55thank you any other questions from the board no anybody uh in favor anybody opposed uh I'll entertain a motion from the board so I'll make a motion to uh to Grant the one time extension of hours to the Liberal Club um 20y star Street and to mrad here for Mr ban to stay open at 1:00 a.m on Thanksgiving Eve this year only yes I'll second any questions on a motion hearing none all in favor all
5:23oppos hello I'll say good luck thank you very much uh number four entertainment Cornerstone LNG 226 East Main Street Manuel the
5:42Silva Sil could you please state your name and address for the record Manuel V Silva for Falcon Rockway Somerset Mass he what are you here for you want to be able to play live music and recorded music yes um just get on my entertainment cuz um I've been the business been doing good but sometime the hours in the entertainment being kill my business because the hour is short in the most people going no
6:10entertainment they go a different place but like I say like um I've been this business for for so long I know how to control the crowd since I been open this door here and then the other one I have I have my security if it's necessary I put the police officer detail just to see if can't get more Revenue into my business because it just opened and uh like glad to see you're open yeah took
6:36you a while it take me so but I really appreciate you guys I'm I try to do the best for the city that's is I want to see if they can extend my hours and ENT dep we haven't had any calls for service there at all since he's been open I think there was maybe one call but it was for like a smoke detector chirping but I think he actually was the one that
6:55called so yeah there there have been no calls whatsoever to that address I said I be have a security there so I don't have it um cuz the reason I don't have police detail because what I been Mak is not enough to pay the security and police detail but with the entertainment liting then if you guys give me extended my hours probably I'm going to you're not here for an extension of hours
7:17tonight I put the letter there I send it all you are here is for just so you know all you are here is let me just make sure I'm not saying something I'm not right about I only see the entertainment license is there anything else M CL not that I'm aware of when did you you can come back on the 9th of uh December yeah I put um I sent it the same time I sent
7:51the email for the letter for increase the hours increase and uh for the entertainment it had to be on it had to be through the portal you know what I'm saying the request yeah because the last time I called you say you got it the email for the letters I seen I have them on my
8:15phone but I can't we can't do it now unfortunately so if you want to come back at the 9th so why don't why don't we why we'll act on your entertainment license okay then come back in in in uh December and we'll act on your extension of hours okay okay all right let's do one thing at a time so it's done right all right okay I appreciate it and then
8:35make sure you go through the portal if there's any issues make sure you talk to Carri but make sure it's done through the right mechanism okay okay I if you listen you're not having any issues I'm telling you I'm I'm good with things but but let's do it the right way okay okay all right um any questions from the board no anybody in favor anybody opposed here and none I'll entertain a
8:56motion to allow entertainment permit the Cornerstone Lounge I'll make a motion to approve the uh entertainment permit for cor and stone Lounge second any questions on the motion hearing none all those in favor I all those opposed so voted all good entertainment make sure you get that in okay okay I want to see if can do tomorrow can you just call me when you send it only because I have so
9:18much paperwork going through the portal right now because of renewals okay okay that way I won't miss it all right thank you I appreciate it have a all right number five is class two gng Auto Inc 697 Pleasant Street nahib bori and I apologize if I said that wrong but that will be tabled good was on vacation all right now we're going to take up the approval of the of number six approval submitted
9:50to 2025 renewal licenses I'm going to read off a class one two and three licenses attached what do I do D it Whatchamacallit you put the oh it's right here take a look so I just put the name and the address that's it y okay um uh before us tonight which has been attached to the agenda but I'm going to read off is G&P Auto Sales 697 Pleasant Street I'm my old man here Max Custom
10:22Auto 52 Oak Rove Avenue Integrity Auto 851 Globe Street Johnny L hakam DBA JP Motors LLC 56 North Main Street 11th Street Associates Inc 231 beff Street far of a mass auto gals Inc 353 Mariano Bishop Boulevard for of a mass Paul's Auto Body and sales 325 Omen Street four of a mass Oak Rove Auto Sales 193 197 oakr app for of a mass auto Boutique 3 uh 338 East Main Street
10:58for of a mass classic Auto Sales 310 show street for Mass FC used auto sales 421 Third Street for Mass JNS Auto Sales and Repair Inc 178 abedine Street for of a mass LNS Auto Mall LLC 1112 Pleasant Street for of a mass Barber Auto Sales 673 beff Street for of a mass Medeiros auto body and Sales Inc 96 Alden Street for mass for auto body and sales 155 willon Street for
11:29mass auto Loft Inc 1741 Stafford Road for of mass Supreme Auto Sales 170 Jefferson Street for Mass Supreme Auto Center Inc 2389 South Main Street for Mass K's Auto Sales 1611 Bay Street for over Mass Aliva auto repair and and body shop 151 Co Cove Street far of a mass distinctive Automotive 20 6 Burn Street for of a mass CT Auto Sales 21 f deales for of a mass Boulevard for of a mass
12:07abdine Auto LLC 165 abdine Street for Mass G and N Auto Sales and transport LLC 800 theal Street for of mass Pinos Auto Repair Sales Inc 2447 South Main Street for of mass Tony's gas and repair 402 Brightman Street for of a mass 2065 or Sales LLC 2065 North Main Street Far Mass far of Distribution Center inc8 Street Far Mass Joe's gas and Auto Sales 2608 South Main Street for of mass celebrity Auto Sales
12:442220 Pleasant Street for of mass AI for Volkswagen for River ad William S KY Boulevard for of mass zap Auto Sales Inc 2553 South Main Street for Mass Euro Auto Inc 168 18th Street for Mass Tech Service Center Inc 70 Williams Street for Mass melo's diesel Services Inc 185 Williston Street Far Mass vins Motor Sales Inc 1426 Plymouth Avenue for Mass AJ Auto Sales 25 Maria Street Far Mass AJ Auto
13:20Sales 109 Barrack Street for Mass yoko's Automotive 103 Broadway for of mass oakr Auto Sales I think I said that already but it's okay 193 197 oakr a fora Mass CT Auto Sales said that one too did 21 father de Val Boulevard for over Mass car rental services and Auto Sales 334 Bey Street for over Mass Jaz Auto and repair 186 Stafford Road for Mass James D Andrews 65 north Cor Street for Mass Integrity
14:00Auto 851 Glo Street for Mass raise Auto Sale 707 Bron a for Mass Edson Saint Sav DBA Babu Auto Sales LLC 99 South Main Street for mass oneway auto wholesale 57 wet Street for Mass North Main Auto Sales and Service 17 stor Street for mass roas auto sales 2291 sou Street for
14:37Mass okay um Car Wars Inc um 1507 Pleasant Street for of mass select Motorsports 838 pleasure Street for Mass Express courtesy Court uh 535 Bay Street for of mass Becker Auto Sales 1580 pleasure Street for of a mass fix cow wash 229 joh Street four of a mass First Choice Auto Mall 1750 Pleasant Street four of a mass cavalo's tire and auto center Inc 410 Second Street for of mass Pinos auto
15:14repair and sales 2247 South Main Street for of a mass lamit auto 103 Shavers Street for of a mass a and John's Auto Sales 69 Napoleon Street four of a mass Central City Auto sales 438 Second Street for mass auto Loft Inc 1741 Stafford Road for Mass JNS Auto Sales and Repair 178 abedine Street for of mass Tony Silva Tina Silva DBA Tech Auto Sales five 54 Bron Avenue Johnny El
15:48hakee DBA JP MotorSports 56 North Main Street for Mass JK Auto Sales LLC 56 North Main Street four of a m can I just stop there for one minute can you have two of them at the same location you can it's a wholesale license got you yeah um distinctive Automotive 26 Burn Street for of a mass Classic Auto Sales 310 sh Street four of a mass um BP Auto Sales Repair Inc 1091 South Main Street for
16:19over mass auto Boutique 338 East Main Street Far of mass Texas auto finance 2651 South Main Street Far of mass m Custom Auto 52 ove Avenue for of mass zap Auto Sales 2553 South Main Street for Mass Tony's gas repair 402 Brightman Street Far of mass JayZ Express 969 South Main Street Far of mass J&P Auto Sal 697 Pleasant Street for of mass 11 Street Associates Inc 231 beffer Street for of
16:55a mass base State truck caps Inc 3 333 Martin Street for Mass Easy Auto Repair 681 Bron Avenue for over Mass Worldwide Auto Sales 2238 South Main Street for of mass Supreme Auto Center Inc 2289 South Main Street for of mass mello's Diesel Service Inc 185 Willison Street for over Mass caruse unlimited Sales Inc excuse me caruse unlimited sale LLC 72 ever Street for over Mass Four Corners Auto
17:28Sales 1144 South uh excuse me Pleasant Street four of a mass Globe Auto Inc 165 Tucker Street for of mass JC gas LLC 537 Beford Street four of mass abidine Auto LLC 165 abedine Street for Mass FC used auto sales 4213 Street for Mass LNS Auto Mall LLC 111 Pleasant Street for mass norn auto sales 32 2 93 North Main Street for of a mass Bob's Auto Sales 643 Brion half for of a
18:06mass alpers auto repair and body shop 151 Cove Street for of mass Viera Auto Group Inc uh 111 Harrison Street for Mass Boston Motorcars LLC 2147 Pleasant Street for Mass Boston autoare LLC 2147 Pleasant Street for Mass Paul auto body and sales 325 Omen Street Far Mass Joe's gas and Auto Sales 2608 South Main Street for Mass Express Auto Group Corp 230 lyen Street for Mass app aasc multiservices LLC 720
18:47South Main Street for Mass Joe's gats and Auto Sales 2608 South Main Street for Mass GN Auto Wholesale 266 3 three South Main Street for of mass Empire Ford Inc 39 excuse me 292 William KY Boulevard for of
19:15mass for distribution center8 Street for mass for Foria Auto 256 beff Street for Mass Madera auto body and sales Inc 96 Alden Street for Mass GNN Auto Sales and transport LLC 800 Deval Street for Mass Barber Auto Sales 673 beffer Street for Mass Audi for River Vol Volkswagen for River 80 Williams Cy Boulevard for River Mass brisbon Diesel Service Inc 2524 North Main Street for of mass celebrity
19:49Auto Sales 2220 Pleasant Street for of mass Warren Auto Repair 857 Warr Street for mass and Auto Brokers 126 uh president La for Mass competitive Auto Sales Annex 189 P padel Boulevard for a mass uh fate Auto 168 Steven Street for a mass Euro Auto Inc 168 18 Street for of mass uh County Street Auto Sales Michael cavalo 964 County Street for of mass 40 is Auto Sales and Service
20:24Inc 605 glow Street for Mass bins Motor Sales 1426 p d for over Mass A&J Auto Sales 109 Barrack Street for over Mass K's Auto Sales Inc six U 1611 Bay Street for Mass Allen's Auto Sal 65 nor Cory Street for Mass Brad's Auto sales6 President Avenue for Mass TMJ Auto Exchange 1580 Pleasant Street for mass auto Ry Inc 1033 Pleasant Street Far mass auto gals 35 53 Maran Bishop Boulevard for of mass
21:02Troy City Auto Wholesalers 1439 be Street for over Mass Supreme Auto Sales 170 Jefferson Street Far of mass 2065 Auto Sales LLC 2065 North Main Street for of a mass Empire Hyundai 428 Pleasant Street for of a mass affordable auto leasing Inc 692 pleasure Street for mass for auto body and sales 155 Wilson Street for of mass BR Motors Inc 429th Street for of mass competitive auto body and sales
21:36one21 Lo Street for Mass Paul Canton 1307 be Street for of mass Allan Auto Sales 427 Pleasant Street for Mass Tech Service Center Inc 70 William Street for mass that is it for that one yeah got be one thing I just want think I got K how come some of them are duplicate it's probably because it's in the computer twice they registered themselves up twice okay but it's not a separate they don't have they don't
22:12possess two different kinds of licenses okay just one second if you don't mind I just got to check one thing could we take all of them first of all is any uh anybody out there that speak for or against anything Police Department all good she doesn't have a she doesn't have anything okay so can you take all of them I just read off with the exception of cavalos and Jaz and I only because I represent them
22:44both okay in the past so can you take everyone but cavalo's I'm forget what cavalo how he's saying it I think it's Auto and give me one second I apologize for this but I want to make sure jock has Auto and repair don't take that you'll take a separate vote when I'll abstain and anybody help me with the one that says cavalos you mean the one on County Street the one on
23:08uh no the one on Second Street oh not on County I know Mike but I don't represent yeah cavalos just want to make sure I do this right I don't I don't want to
23:25be yeah cavalo's Ty and Auto can you not take jaz's Auto and repair and cavalo's tire and auto center all the others will end a motion to accept motion motion made by Mr Pera second by U Mr J all those in favor I I and now could you guys please make a motion for Jaz um Jaz Auto and repair as well as cavalos cavalo's TI and auto center Inc I'll
24:02make a motion to approve the class one two and three licenses for Joz Auto and repair and cabalo's tire and auto center second uh all those in favor oppose and I abstain okay all right so now we go to Fortune Towers um we have three of them psychic greetings by Taylor um applicant Taylor demitro 121123 Bron Avenue for Mass Sally's Palm applicant Rick Miller 1018 1022 North Main Street
24:43for of mass and L Ken Holdings Limited LLC Joseph lorenco 1554 Pleasant Street for of a mass anybody in favor anybody oppose make a motion I'll entertain a motion to accept the fortune tell license as read to the board I'll make a motion to approve the fortune tellers license renals second uh motion made second any questions on a motion hearing none all those in favor I all those opposed they're all granted and now
25:12we're going to go to the lodging house licenses raldi peace operations LLC Carol forward Property Management 195 Rodman Street um Renaldi peace operations LLC car forover property manag at 250 4 Ford Street Ral dpace operations LLC care Ro property for property management 267 Forth Street um Silver Silver Spirit Manor 556 High Street for of a mass 1873 lodging house 621 Second Street for
25:48of mass Park rooms 517 South Main Street for of a mass panac lodging 202 Rock Street for of a mass Stone residence 175 North Main Street for of mass Oak Street rooming house 33 Oak Street for Mass any questions on these I just have one question we're all set with those ones that we did have the problem 195 254 276 excuse me5 yeah they've been in touch with Glenn Glenn's been dealing with
26:20them but it's all set to go forward on them y okay I will entertain a motion I'll make a motion to approve uh the LOD of house license renewals motion um second uh any questions on the motion hearing none all those in favor I all those opposed um okay now we have next we have new o alcohol common victus license Taste of paradise 1335 1345 Pleasant Street Max solar point just so everybody
26:49knows uh we went out there I went out there um with the police department the fire Department um building inspector uh kri was there I was there and we we we looked around here and quite honestly they they were already doing some things that they shouldn't be doing whether they knew it or not they said they didn't but so I I basically told them that that they uh should should either
27:18withdraw or table their application get things right over there and and attempt at that point um there was another person there who who told us collectively that he was going to be refiling um under he did come in for the paperwork he did okay so but it hasn't been filed yet so um in terms of a table we can table it um but I can just say to
27:43the board that I was there if we had to go forward with this application I'd be adamantly against it it's a new application this is not a Ral this is a new establishment yeah but but he's not he supposedly is not going to go forward he's going to have somebody else go forward they were talking none of our business but they were talking about transferring and selling it the whole
28:01nine yards so I don't know if the board wants to table it um or could take it completely off and allow just a new filing I I I I don't there I think there's nothing wrong with withdrawing it and they can always come that's what I would prefer I'll make that I'll make that motion to withdraw their application and to refile if they going to do it under a new name you guy yeah
28:22yeah whatever it may be I'll second any questions on the motion hearing none all those in favor all those opposed I okay okay next is under seven is B discuss Mickey Doyle's Inc DBA Mickey Doyle Sports Pub 380 R Allen a Brian Andre license status letter please state your name and address for the record sir Brian Andre 387 Orwell street so you're here for what you tell us well I'm here to
28:58try to get my have my license continued okay from my suspension okay and I you SE you've seen all the suspension stuff right the decision he never accepted it it went to the house twice accept what the the the decision yeah it was seven months 6 months and then well no only because Mr Angie first of all and I'm not trying to hear to give you a hard time you were
29:29supposed to turn in your license it's never been turned in I didn't know how to turn in a paper license I wasn't open you have to bring it you have to turn it in it says you have to turn it in that's all I'm trying to say You're supposed to physically turn it in because technically you even though we made a ruling that establishment is open until we get your license in our possession I
29:49didn't understand that but I meant to print this out when I forgot to well I that's why I'm saying is a decision that was rendered we have all these that were never never taken you know never taken by you and I'm not again trying to be disrespectful to you it says the property's up for lease that particular Frank the building inspector took that I it's up for lease because I wasn't going to pay 20
30:14something grand for a closed bar you know I know but you have a lease there I don't have a lease right now so where you putting the license I would like to try go back there I'm not opening up right away but I mean but okay I'm not again please understand no I know I'm trying to I'm trying to help you here truthfully you got a decision that says license must be brought into the License
30:38Department located at the fifth floor of the for River government center by 8:00 a.m. on Thursday June 27 2024 that was never done so therefore your license has never been given back to the city all right okay yeah we did make a decision to shut you down and I know you haven't been open but for to be very Frank with you Mr Andre we can't renew it anyhow because you don't
31:01have a location so but I'm allowed to pay for it to keep in my name no you don't have to pay for it but where we we can't approve a license to Nowhere no I get what you're saying but it's still legally mind right as of right now it may be until my I get my financial situation on well no I mean as of as of as of December 31st where are you going
31:22to locate your license well I'm not opening up right right on January 1 that's I'm saying but but you can't you can't have a pocket license in the in the state of Massachusetts you can't people just can't we just had people come in here we're taking their licenses at the end of the year two of them two of them unless they open back up they people like one one is The Beef House on
31:40Division Street he hasn't been opened in a substantial amount of time you can't just hold your license and have it you have to have a location to operate your business whether it's you or anybody this is this is not particular to you you right now want to apply for a renewal but you don't have anywhere to go but I think I was unfairly shut down a cover up I covered up a shooting
32:04when the video clearly showed all due respect that was all I'm not again being disrespectful you that was already done you had a you had an opportunity to appeal that decision you didn't do that I didn't come in because I I I didn't feel safe the way the officer treated me that night but but you but you had a document you go to the alcoholic beverage Commission in Boston it wouldn't have been before us well I
32:24don't know all the ins and outs go in front of the I don't know how to go in front of the B because a constable went to your house twice to deliver this information to you and neither time was it accepted so you would have known that if you would have signed what am I not like what am I like hiding in my house I don't know I have no idea Mr Andrew
32:41that's not that's not us to look for you I'm not again I'm not trying to be disrespectful to you this is how everybody's treated not just you I used to sit on that side of the table and I had two people lose their license one time we appealed it to the alcoholic beverage commission one time we didn't that that's that's that's that's on you that's what this decision says so so
33:01right now I I can't I'm only speaking for one person and I'm trust me I'm not trying to give you a hard time but at the end of the day I can't give you a license to go nowhere you have to have an establishment can I can I ask a couple question you absolutely can Michael I'm sorry um so all right now Mickey Doyle's up in the in the plaza you don't own that
33:28what's your relationship with that building now you don't have relationship with that well not no CU you don't have a lease there you're definitely not going there is that uh unless something majorly changes yeah sorry so that that that's what mran trying to get no I get I get what you're saying I need a location to have a I think this this board is very very Pro business and and
33:48nobody here I want you to have a business I want you to establish a business in in for I me I'm speaking for Mike perrero lived off EBT for the last 6 months why I don't want you to have to do that I want you to have business but I think there's definitely a severe um communication problem you got the detective right there I know I I've had conversation with her she's made several
34:08attempts to contact you and and and so you have her number and does she have yours a gentleman called me after I was shut down to ask me about what I knew about the complaints I had against cops I wasn't going to call him that's that's not what she does you don't you don't that's she's not so with a gentleman I don't know was guve or something that's something different I'm talking about
34:28your license because she try I know she tried to contact you after or or during this so do you do you have so you physically called my phone oh yeah and by your house letters to your address and we tried contacting do you have a cell phone number get it from now my phone was on and off all summer I give your phone number right unemployment laugh give it to it right now unless we
34:52can do it off tape you want we can do it off tape if you want if you don't want I don't care give it to her right now 508 536 8422 okay so head 5 5508 536 8422 8422 and car now you have it you can get it off if you ever need it I I have it no I need but I'm say I think this is this is some severe communication problems here
35:16we don't want to have communication problems so if the police department contacts you and ask you for something or information about your business you have to communicate right there you have to if you don't there's no way this board's going to give you anything unless you if you're not communicating with us and she's our our tool to communicate with people so you have to communicate with her I'm just trying to
35:41give you some advice I want you to I agree I'm I'm listen Okay so that part's done that's all I needed to cor that's well I I I can I can say we want to have businesses here in for Mr Andre this is not I think you've taken this as we we we have something against you I'm telling you right now my comments right here today the fpd had something against
36:03me well I'm not the fpd but I'm telling you this I didn't say you I just said okay well well it doesn't you can I get it when several cops say that they they unfairly treating me and they can't go against the cops like you can't go against other doctors the mechanisms you have you never did you make a a civilian complaint against them I I I I was
36:21trying to attain a lawyer but but no no we don't you don't need a lawyer to walk in the build and say can I have a complaint control form fill it out and give it to them and gent fans I don't know Andrew you can you can decide what you're going to do with that in all due respect all right I know you got to try to do your job here that's defin I'm
36:35just trying to say this your your license does expire on December 31st yes there is a substantial fee to renew that license but you don't have a place to go yeah big so even if we hold it let's assume I tell you today Mr Andre Mr we'll hold your license open for 90 days and let you go look at it you're going to have to pay that's going to be your
36:59business decision we can't hold it open without a payment pay for what the license yeah that's what I'm asking if I can get it hold open until I until I no you got toay you just told what's going on right you just said pay for the license so you can hold it open I then you then two seconds later you're saying uh you can't hold it open no I can hold
37:18it open but you got to pay pay for my license yeah that's what I'm here I'm asking all right Mr Andre I'm trying to so you crystal clear so if we tell you to come back at the end end of February okay February 28th or our March meeting let's say and you don't have a place to go then you're going to lose we're going to take the license and you're going to lose your
37:39money right so what's the longest possible way you can't it's December 31st so you just said till March I don't get it but you'll have to pay your license fee I get that that's what I'm why what I don't get why you guys had me come here you basically saying you takeing my license no we had you come here because we want to cuz you're saying you don't know any of
37:59these things we're try I don't know any of that I'm just saying I'm here to say like when I get my financials in order I I would like to open my bar back up so now you're saying I can sir I I I think that we starting with one premise you don't have a bar you don't have a place to go I got it yeah I got it so therefore there is
38:21no no place for us to license right how long will he have the right to that license maybe that's if he pays no all right so say say it's $1 and he gave us the dollar today how long will he have to March I I don't it's the this board's decision but we've been we've been not taking pocket licenses so we gave that other gentleman till the end of the year
38:45that just came in two meetings ago we gave we gave the old Jake till the end of the year and they're not doing it they gave it back I was in contact with them so we gave them to the end of the year so what are we giving this gentleman whatever we want but I'm just trying to explain to him I'm not trying to be does he want to expend those funds
39:02cuz there's that's what I'm saying if I expend my funds and then I get my financial status find a place I can I can Brian do you have the money to not right now obviously not when will you have it I have no idea I have money tied up in court all right I got it so it's you need answers I mean really well well I don't I'm not I think he thinks I'm
39:19living off less than $10 aood St today what do you want me to do p out a million dollars out of my pocket I'm not trying to have you do anything please all right I get it right is if I mean I don't know what's the license three grand 35 3500 if he doesn't pay the 3500 by December 31st the license goes away anyhow yeah so that's what I'm saying if
39:36I paid the 3500 by the by the 31st I I can get a chance to no matter how how long it takes me to get my f no location we can't it's a pocket license yeah but we gave those other people time he's just going to lose his 3500 if we give him till February for example yeah but February I I need a little more time Brian we have licenses at any given time
39:56more than Al you could come and apply for they won't give me a license back well we may not I I didn't rule on anything we may only give you till February we may give you to March but now you're saying if I don't get my license I can open up a bar again and come and apply for a license bik there there's 18 licenses available Mr Andrew let's be real I'm not Carrie's not a
40:16family I'm not going to get a license here so why don't you come up with the 3500 that's what I'm that's what I'm here to to to see if that's what would be the feasible thing what if he does what if he came in tomorrow with the 3500 will we give him to the so you're saying I can if I can if there's 18 licens and I'm eventually trying to open
40:34up another B even in that same place I wasn't giving them money they they're slum Lords I mean let's be real but now you're saying go for a license there but if I pay at 3500 I'll lose it in a month no I'm saying you may I'm just trying to keep up with my my license so I can get the you know I get a chance to get my my
40:54life back in order what if my life's been taken away from me in what if he gave us an update in December see I'm only going to speak for myself yeah I'm not going to judge him any differently if he has a pocket license or if he applies for a license I'm sorry you guys say that I'm saying but but what if 18 licenses go and then they say I can't
41:13get one it's like I I I would least like a chance to say if I pay my 3500 at least I get that license and then when I come in front of the board and say hey i' like to go back there or or I'd like to change my location and keep a bar in the city like that not be able to keep that pocket license if you would if you
41:27would forever I I wouldn't want to keep it forever right deadlines we got to come up with we gave everybody three months all right that's what I'm saying I mean is that that's not I mean I'm living off EBT and I just finally got a job cuz my kids in school that's not I mean we got to come up if we can come up with a date well he just said three
41:44months that it shouldn't be too much longer than that excuse me it shouldn't be too much longer than three months cuz that's been the standard no I mean I get it yeah but I mean like obviously 3 months I have to pay all my Distributors back I'm listed now so it's like I don't got 30 grand to pay my Distributors right this minute I'm working at the casino behind Distributors the boots and
42:02everything uh a few of them yeah cuz I'm listed now because I no offense to be very honest the abcc is not going to approve it yeah but that's what I'm saying if I had my license and then I can pay get my financial order back that's that's what I'm trying to say it's like now you have come in here can you do it in three months no I can't it's this is that's it right three
42:20months three months that's our going rate I don't know anybody can come with 100 Grand in three months all saying Mike in my humble opinion and again it's my humble opinion there's 18 licenses they haven't gone anywhere you are this gentleman if this gentleman gets his financial affairs in order in six months and get comes up with his 100 Grand and apply he's going to apply before I'm going to take him
42:41the same Grand I'm just saying like I even if I wanted to go back to that to that spot and I call up my old landlord I I I've been close since June so that's 24 30 30 grand right there and back no you're probably not going back that SP okay how much is the license same price as the renewal 3500 we were just talking about it's the same price you app for a
43:04new license versus renewing it well those those license haven't moved in quite some time those 18 licenses all right so i' get a fair shot if I re reapply you do have a fair shot correct all right Mr Andre I'm going to tell you right now I'm going to give you a fair shot but you're going to like the last time you were here you're going to comply with all the when you give us a
43:22plan I'm going to be very upfront and honest with you you want the truth you gave me the plan last time I bought you gave us the plan and you never complied with your plan hold on excuse me you gave me the July right the shooting happened in the beginning of June didn't happen what you talking about all I'm saying is when you come back yeah let me speak please you come back
43:44and you're sincere and genuine and you so now I'm not sincere and genuine it's isn't saying I'm not saying that if you're sincere and genuine and you give us a plan I'm here to try to make businesses get better I'm not against the board I'm not against anybody I'm just trying to tell you but this is what your question you can't see why I'm frustrated sir your question every single thing I'm
44:05saying okay when I'm trying to tell you the right way and I'm trying to have you not waste money cuz if I was in your shoes I would think about what you're going to do moving forward because if you're telling the board you don't think you can come up with 100 Grand whereby you would be able to put that license somewhere in the next three months then you may may I'm one vote you may be
44:23wasting your money that's what I'm trying to tell you if you're struggling why would you give $3,500 and renew the license when you probably can't get it done in three months that's all I'm I'm trying to help Fair that's fair that's a fair time okay so that that's where I am with it but you can make your own decisions I can't guide you in terms of what to do but as far as tonight I I
44:42want I told her to send you the letter to come here because it's obvious from all of these return things and notices from from sheriffs that they they didn't W weren't able to serve you I wanted to give you a fair shot and discuss manto man in front of you so that's what I was trying to do and that's why I asked you to be here you may think people had you
45:02come here for no reason but I wanted to be upfront face to face manto man and tell you that this is what I I I think you're position you're at right now I appreciate it nothing else I want to say right there's nothing for me to say at this point in time it's going to it's going to lapse as of December 31st cool all right okay thank you Mr Andre good luck
45:27I hope you uh uh you find success um nothing else on the on you have to sign anything uh no I've got them all for next and for the 19th excuse me the n9th motion to adjourn I'll make a motion to Jour second all in favor I all oppos