12.13.2023 Traffic Board

pursu to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting to any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible start off with the roll call Stephanie MacArthur recording secretary Natalie melow Helen Rego

Charlie de dards motion to approve minutes from October 18 2023 motion to approve second second opposed seeing none passes get into jump right into uh citizen input before we get into the rest of the um agenda is anybody who's not listed on the agenda that just came in tonight to address the uh board sir um I got some pictures and explanations and a petition the situation in Maplewood Park

in the school buses for Atlanta start of school I have a 10-year-old grand niece that I take and pick up every day um there's quite a bit of chaos there um as far as traffic control that micophone um talk to the excuse me sir could you speak the microphone please I uh talked with um one of the ladies in the traffic department and um explained to her and she suggested that i' go to the council

meeting and come here also um there's a couple things on here if you want to look at the pictures there first picture label number one is uh there's a five-way intersection at the north end of that uh Park Lane or Park a whatever it's called you got two directions on Stafford Road you have the side road you have people coming out of Park Avenue then you have that I don't

know what it is from CRA it's just a big wide open corner there's no Lanes anything marked and it's kind of confusing um she was coming across it took her forever to get a chance to come across and then you can't see in the picture but somebody was turning and you're talking about the woman in pushing the stroller woman pushing the stroller yes uh so that's one thing there's no traffic AIDS there

for anybody as far as any directional signs or anything no you know pedestrian walk signs or nothing well is the uh the crosswalks are all those are all up to dat this a recent picture yes okay yes um then on the second picture uh at the entrance South entrance to the park uh there's a black truck it's there constantly it's there two three days unattended he lives across the street somewhere

and I was told it's a public park so they can't do anything about it but the park has hours it's a sign right there say closes you know 11:00 a.m. to 7 11:00 p.m. to 7: a.m. he's there 247 in the truck no just the truck parked but you can see how close he is to the corner those buses are about 37 ft long and to make that kind of s turned in

there with other people parked across from him you know to pick the kids up you know I've seen them have to stop blow the horns get people to move you know come inches from hitting another car it's you know it's kind of a awkward situation and then number three uh that's more cars at the entrance of the park they're forced to park there because there's no other place for them

to park um my niece and I went the other morning uh couple times we counted 30 Vehicles you know before ours parked on Park Avenue um most what do you mean before hours what time of the day we talking before 7 7 a.m. most of them are from the restaurant that's right there I can't remember the name of it um Pico Construction Company there's about six cars every day they pull in there

they Park they work across street and go to work um the pool company which is a small company he has two cars that he parks there all the time and then everybody that lives across the street parks there and they they're there all night all day I understand the parking's a premium in Fall River but you know it's got to be something we can work out on it um number four you know the Park Lane

hours I don't think you can read the the sign but you know it's there it's either not visible for everybody or it's not enforced or both I don't know you know what what it is number five is a Mercedes from the pool company across the street that's one of his his two cars um I didn't take a picture of his license plate so you could identify him but it's there um and you're saying this is a

picture of uh uh within the no parking hours no that's doing the parking hours but it's just his personal very today you know when I was over there he comes out of his house with a kid walks across the street gets into the car you know everybody from across the street is using it for a personal parking place um you know the pool company Construction Company Pico and the restaurant I said all use that for a

park and and then the last picture is just the number of cars that it takes to come in there you know the parents sitting that's how you know crowded it is but the point being there's you know it's a safety issue the buses come in there's no direction for the buses they come in what do you mean by Direction because it that's just a one way it's a one way yep when they get there there

people Park solid bumper to bumper on both sides so they have nowhere to go so they pull about halfway down the lane between the cars stop and unload the kids and my perception of everything is everybody sits there then they get the kids they walk back to the car now they're ready to leave they can't leave so now you got road rage you know it's not that to that point but they're

they're ready to go mhm if the buses you know stay behind for a little bit because one kid's parents not there or something then you got people pulling around the side of the buses and passing them while it's while it's sitting there with kids on well they never turn the red lights on but that's I mean you know they have the doors open there kids on the bus well if the doors are open that stop

sign has to be out so they're not doing that then that's a separate issue but it you it's it's a accident waiting to happen basically I see two or three times with the kids so I see you have uh a petition here for a traffic resolution if you just does this Encompass what you guys are looking for as as far as a possible solution to some of these issues Solutions we're looking you know

from discussing with other parents at least have an officer there or a designated parking area at the beginning of the lane for the buses that way everybody's got to park past the buses they pick the kids up the bus isn't in the way they can pick the kids up you want to utilize that Park Drive as a plus only spot just whatever spots they need two space spaces that's all they

need okay let me just um read this real quick and then so I can pass it down they can get a quick idea on it and if you have anything else I'll let you do the chair to the citizen the park hour is up until 6:00 a.m. is it 6: a.m. 6 a.m. doesn't it say 7 on that sign there yeah I believe I I I'm not I'm not sure if the park board

is aware or has I'm just going to say with the school you got to come before the of the park Bo you've got to come before the park board that's the first Wednesday of the month correct the situation I run into is I went to the traffic board and they sent me to the city council city council sends me here they tell me to talk to the schools I

talk to the schools they said I have to talk to y'all and then they y tell me I have talk to the park issue that will be a joint issue with the traffic without question y because it will involve uh both uh both divisions it just seems like a simple solution would have a police officer to take that's for very very far from a simple solution well for one hour I that's all

one hour S I can and I read real quick when it comes to that I can 100% appreciate how someone sitting in that chair could simply easily say one hour I need one man out of 200 offices to stand here for I absolutely can appreciate that and this is not quick quick little insight sometimes there's eight men for the entire city calls don't stop for that one hour that's just something to

keep in mind it's very easy to lose sight of yeah I I I don't I understand is under underlying the situation you know but the general public we see every construction site that's being worked on we see two police officers standing there that company is paying for those okay well I don't know this just a general Outlook of the public this is what we see you know there has to be a

dialogue because people won't know and they'll see that and they'll be like oh the city can send them over there again that company is literally coming out of but that's what I heard on those petitions that's what I heard a lot of people that's your opinion so we don't we really don't know the ins and out yeah and that's that's a natural um and I appreciate you bringing that up

because so like it was brought up okay we do certainly have some obvious safety concerns and I think a lot of it can be addressed um I don't know if we're ever going to be able to get to a point where we can box out any certain area of the city and say that we've just made this 100% safe for any kind of pedestrian oh no no but I think we can mitigate a lot

of this um to come up with any resolution today for this board obviously it's going to be a joint venture wasn't expecting that just I wanted to bring it to the school to see if possibly changing the bus stop would be an option I talked to the school they said talk to the Parks Department and it's not something that's going to be done overnight I realize that I realize that I think there's three people involved

here the park the traffic and the school this is this is my my take on this it it'll be a a collaboration of everybody that commission just mentioned in Mr that's why I'm working at I went to the city council meate and I came to y'all so absolutely the other things to just keep in mind too A lot of people also lose sight just because we can kick the can down the road and get it away

from one area of the neighborhood M people lose sight there's still going to be that many people picking up their children at that exact time going to be somewhere but if we could we could smooth that out a little bit you know like I said two parking places for the buses it's all we would need and the school is that you're talking about uh Atlanta's Charter okay there's a br School Char School many buses

that different place has a pick up there and a drop off there but there's usually no more than two buses from any of them I believe yeah yeah at at that specific time so just two two assign parking places at the end of the lane and everybody would have to park past them and then he wouldn't have people driving by the bus he would have people all ready to go go go and then you want to

have that influx of you know 60 cars at the 5way intersection at one time cuz everybody would pick the kid up and leave next a um workable problem the only other thing I would want to bring up though is uh I no there a lot of the pictures you have and and you're saying that neighbors are complaining saying that you know it doesn't appear that the parking hours are being enforced yes um again I'd love

to be able to tell you officers are going to be going by checking all these lots and looking at the signs oh we within this Tim Lane oh I'm going to go ahead and tag a car sometimes there's other things going on if it it helps if you guys help them by making a call like hey you know it's say it's this time and this car is here I think they get tired

of me calling a lot of times but you know what things get done doing it uh um we appreciate it but you know what I mean it's it's one of those things it's good to have a log uh so we're going to go ahead and table this we're going to have this can we bump it over just see have to BU over the parks um so Helen is actually on the

Park Board I'm on the Park Board I'm going to bring that this to n's attention tomorrow morning excellent so it's going to get brought over to the other department the parks department and it will be discussed there as well we is that also a open meeting that I could come just sit and of course when will that be do you know it's the first we need his phone number what's the Wednesday meeting is the

first first Wednesday of the month but I need his phone number so we can contact him if you want to go ahead and yeah you that thank you for listening absolutely course anybody else for citizen input your not on the agenda we'll have to call you also great that does count on no all right we're going to move into curve Cuts we got 125 Ratcliff Street engineer reviewed uh no issues

found make a motion to approve second second anyone oppose thank you so much thank you see none motion passes next would be 2089 Blossom Road Again engineer Department reviewed application found no issues have a motion motion to approve second second any opposed see none pass okay tabled request from two months ago we have anaan Street this is a request to change the traffic padding on anaan water to

ponds that's right this was tabled because we wanted to give um businesses a chance to be aware of the proposed changes is there anyone here regarding this issue yeah living is all set um you guys have something you'd like to speak on we were last week so what we spoke about last week was sorry two months ago uh nothing's really changed you know um unless you're asking me for same

input that you guys heard before um we made the request to make the changes yeah yep yep yep and so other than you guys was anybody you're here in opposition I'm Patrick with the Nars Center okay building right on the corner there yep I wasn't familiar with the request what is it okay so two months ago uh request was put forth um to change the traffic padding on N1 from water to

Pond uh do we have the original can make it a one way heading east from water to Pond thean Street is a one way all the way from Water Street all the way to the VA streets so it' be making it a oneway heading east from water to pond because it's already a oneway from pond up so it would just be because it's a two-way down there so we'd be making it a oneway

that in favor yeah that's what we she what is that we attached to your agend will show the ABS list of who we contacted you have that copy these are all the ABS that we contacted I didn't see it should

be that came from the assessors of all the ABS on

Animan the company yeah yeah know side of the with this P change his area or is it smack in the middle in favor he's aant at in now building at Street yeah and he has no issues with traff okay I just didn't see direction of the way people Park uh that that's all it's really going to do it's going to make it safer so when you get out of the vehicle you just get on right

onto the sidewalk right uh instead of being out in the street with two-way traffic I we been down that stuff going to have to change the way on Pine Street too so Pond if we approve that one on the top you have to move change to the part the parking on Pond Street Al so they can go on to the sidewalk also to the other side correct there's no sidewalk on the side on the

it West Side let's say right why the CH parking on an won't change as far as the side of parking it's just the direction of the vehicles traveling to park is going to change they'll still Park on this side of I think they were talking about the direction of Pawn Street if I'm not mistaken they would have to put it back on to the other side where there is a sidewalk because where there are parking

now uh it doesn't work they get out into the street and there's going to have to walk the street all the way up if they park on the other side they'll walk on the sidewalk be better for truck dri have a wi sorry you Wen aware everyone's got a chance to review this this was tabled from last month biggest concern being um giving businesses a chance to be notified and attend if they had any opposition or

concerns um we've only had two people show up regarding it both issues addressed do we have a motion on the floor to have all the all the businesses been notified yes and Mr Patrick noton is the only one that came back that wanted to ask any questions here everyone else seems to be in favor some of those companies are owners they're all in favor of it they had their opportunity to come tonight to express

any concerns and they chose not to so we can go ahead and take a vote on this if we are so inclined I'm in I'm in favor of it with the uh amendment of uh also changing the direction on con street we have a motion to accept the proposed changes is there a second second second are there any opposed seeing none motion passes thank you okay 808 Slade Street anyone here from 808 Slade Slade Street

elat okay we'll table

that Amity street we have a request residents regarding tractor trailers parking on Amity Street we have any residents here regarding this issue this is something I just want to talk about with the board real quick okay uh a big packet was submitted um she has it all put together in your your packets here basically we have residents uh all over complaining about um the Amy Street back lot uh that whole South End

area oversized vehicles um commercial vehicles all these um trailers being attached campers parking things like that along public ways okay um two big concerns one is obviously we have a ordinance that clearly states commercial vehicles can't park overnight on a public way the hours right now for that ordinance is 11:00 p.m. to 7 a.m. okay I think if we adjust this this standing ordinance um and make it earlier spot

during the day that might help curve some of the issues again it still have to be uh actively enforced which means uh if officers are seeing it on their own they can step out and go ahead and tag these vehicles but it also gives residents a chance right around you know the end of work time uh is if we choose to adjust these hours now these commercial vehicles have to be off of the public way hopefully

residents are getting a chance to come and park in front of their own homes if it's towards the end of the Working Day hours so one of the hours I was thinking about throwing out there to you guys is maybe we can change it from 11: p.m. slide it all the way back to around, 1700 or 5:00 P p.m. typically the end of the average workday as people are getting home now these commercial vehicles these

oversized vehicles have to be off the public way and back into their um respected Lots now obviously this isn't going to Encompass a vehicle that is pulled over parked to make a quick delivery this is going to be for oversized vehicles that are parked for the night okay um we can adjust these hours to whatever we want I'm just proposing five o' um PM does anyone have anything for and it's throughout the City it's

not just on Amity this this would cover everything onag Street this is Ona Street in Fr of my house commercial vehicles that are parked overnight it would be enforceable from 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m. instead of the 11:00 p.m.

overnight which residents are complaining while saying oh well I come home at 5 six seven I still can't park anywhere because they're they're eating up all the prime Park no that's fair where where are the trucks coming from all different um businesses were getting complaints from there was one uh who was the one who said had a bunch of Vans is it on even boats that not attached to anything well any unattached

Trail is already already violation yeah anything has to be attached yeah new company these RV was a new yorky and our thing is too is these large campers as well I mean if it on yeah and you know fail to so real quick um first proposal to address this major issue would be an adjustment to a city ordinance which we already have in place my suggestion would be moving it from 11: to 5: um

p.m. yeah I agree there a motion for I make a motion have a second any oppos seeing none outstanding okay the second major issue that is part of this this um complaint here and there's uh some pictures that are part of the packet this is a big one it's this is in your your pack okay I just passed that one so you have a registered vehicle legally parked insured um insured registered all good to go

okay as we look at this image there is potential problems here okay even though he is legally parked we still have problems here that um neighbors and residents are bringing up and it does Merit some attention Okay albeit this vehicle is legally parked and allowed to be on the roadway it takes a small measure of common sense to look at this image and say that okay if there was a

fire at that house on the corner there is absolutely no fire apparatus that is going to be able to get down this roadway absolutely and be able to work safely okay this is just one of several tiny tight roadways that again although this vehicle is 100% legally parked um it it doesn't make prudent sense to park here so we have to come up with some sort of ordinance that we can address this issue okay so one

um I and Steph talked about is under the guise of uh an ordinance which would read along the lines obstruction of emergency vehicles okay so it would be each situation would have to be evaluated as you come over here if you're driving down this street and the officer sees that this camper is parked here and it is legal it can be on the roadway not inherently illegal but Common Sense dictates that not going to

fit an ambulance down here let alone a ladder truck okay we need to be able to have the ability to site this vehicle issue some sort of parking tag or city ordinance tag so that this person's aware that hey this is not a good place to park you have to find a better location no I agree and under this ordinance and this amendment to this or this amendment to this ordinance would

that cover uh Salters plows that are in in AB of so it would be a not I don't want to use the term generic it's not going to be specific to any type of vehicle but it would read any such vehicle that would be considered an oversized vehicle yeah other than your regular passenger car right oversized vehicle that is parked on a roadway that may obstruct any and all emergency vehicles would be a citable offense

something we encountered this time of year when we icing snow events and we cannot get one through cuz right now there's absolutely nothing that could be done that is registered and insured it can be on the roadway and there's nothing saying that it can't park there but clearly I mean that that potentially is going to be an issue I think so in addition to 20 ft from the corner so

this one would be it's a standalone this one would we're essentially going to come up with a brand new ordinance for this one and under like I said the the title of obstruction of emergency vehicles if you guys can be called back to Irving Street a couple years back that's it right yeah yeah yeah that's what absolutely Street does anyone have anything to add on this I have a question s now what if

they had a driveway and they parked their that in the driveway is that a danger also to their property if it was on their property it's private property we can't really tell them that they can't have it there you can park a a tanker on your your licensed and registered I just CU I've seen boats and people's driveway I mean really close to their property their house I mean that's scary

yeah but it it's just you know somewhere got yeah I got you and it it's it is difficult you know how do you tell someone that has something that is allowed to be on the roadway where they can put it um arbitrarily but like I said in the beginning this takes uh some measure of common sense you know what I mean it would be uh selective enforcement you know um okay it doesn't

look like we're going to get through here with the ladder truck you're going to eat a ticket or if someone else says hey this one's really tight and as an officer gets on scene it's like you can you can park a plane through here uh it's not to to satisfy neighbors for having a large camper parked in front of their residents and it looks Gody it's merely for safety yeah for everybody we we've all seen the

narrow streets where the People Park on both sides and there's no way fire engine's getting through and but it's legally parked but there's no way they're going to get through we have a motion for a uh I make a motion to approve I second any opposed motion passes good job moving on we have request for the greater for OFA Arts Association 8 Belmont Street currently have one handicap space but is looking to

possibly receive an additional space is there anyone here from sure uh Ron gagon vice president for associ we're doing historic restoration I haven't got that and we have spent a certain amount of money that we've triggered Ada compliancy for our first fall so in the spring we want to be installing a lift make the property handicap accessible to the public and at present it is space in

front of the building number 11 we have two resident artists we people that have the handicap usually won't park there because there's not a lot of traffic there if we get somebody with a van or something that wants to come we feel that second space you know would help us they would both be right in front of AD dmma and it's you know it's not nobody lives in the building and there's not a

lot of traffic on that street there's not a lot of cars bled and it's only because of the ADA compliance that we've uh requested this is nobody pops any handicap they have a space he's requesting for an additional someone that on a regular basis we have two resident office if it's going to be a show on the weekend they get there early they a little further down but if it's during a week

like I've got I've got a disability I do a lot of the maintenance in the building I'll park there and that leaves if somebody was to come to visit but it's it's basically we have shows on the weekends and you know things like that um you know we we want to make it accessible to the public as well but it's an empty building there's no one that actually resides here right

this is like a it's open and during business hours yeah you go by there nobody parks in front of that building the house next door um uh was a SE house you forget the guy's name but they you know they're redoing that but that street the only day that's really full street with cospot is Wednesday people from the hospital park there they go there for meetings but the rest of the week the

streets pretty empty you know it's not like a problem there's not a problem getting parking spots on that street the hours so you're just looking for a secondary spot so that in when you do have um shows or whatever that they're having there you have one in case there's an an influx in in handicap attendees so I mean we'll discuss it and we'll put it out for a vote um a couple of things typically all the

handicap uh spots that are asent have to fall under specific checklist right we have nothing to do with creating that checklist we just make sure that they're checked and we make a vote on it um this one's a little unique because it's more of a business than it is a residence um there is already one directly front the property so that kind of makes it more difficult for us to give a secondary one without people

staying there for a prolong period of time other than just business knowledge you know what I mean but what are the business hours excuse me what are the business hours um depending on what the like on the weekends uh the shows are Saturday Sundays uh Saturday days you have classes for children adults uh this week is a Marketplace for the holidays so from 5 to um 8 tonight and that's open to the

public and over the weekend is there's going to be some concerts there this weekend Julia Cory's bringing her students in so there's going to be a lot of people but we were looking for more for the I mean I don't know if it could be a temporary thing time I prefer a temporary you know where you could put up yeah yeah I know don't just so you know like we don't want to like hog the

street sure sure but that because we're going ADA compliance and you know we want to make sure that there is absolutely no off Street proing for this property correct none okay and you so there's no steady business hours CU if you didn't get like a handicap spot um I was going to say maybe a suggestion is to have kind of like normal businesses do hey this is uh 15minute part or whatever it is during

these hours uh but I again I don't this one's kind of unique because of the nature of property but you said 500 p.m on Saturdays yeah the um when when there shows being held the show actually well we're 5 to8 tonight for the the marketplace but the weekend on a Saturday uh if the Galler's open it's open to the public it's free that goes from 4: to 9 on Sunday it goes from 1 to

5: so if they had a handicap and it was a timer that's fine with us we just want to accommodate the public seeing how we've been requested of one more question for you I understand you're looking ahead CU you're getting uh the compliant has this been an issue to this point or are you looking down the road to potentially avoid an issue you said oh we're kind of looking down the road because we've not been

handicapped accessible so when people come to like we do it out exhibit with the kids from dery MH they have a grandparent or somebody who can't do stairs they usually won't bring them but now we're going to put in the lift alongside the building putting a handicap basement uh bathroom on the first floor first floor will be Ada in compliance with the Ada right so we're looking down the road yeah that

we're going to you know we're going to be more open to the the public in general so when you're open you park your car there no like I'll park just in front of the handicap cuz it's a couple of feet I try to leave one there but we also have two other resident artists uh Mary Agnes Murphy uh she's got she's got some issues she's an elderly woman and she'll

park there so if she's there we have if we're open for the public but she's there she's there she's there for the day another usually okay um well not the day she's in for the show she's the curator I mean she doesn't come 8 in the morning all they lost all right uh we've heard what his request is obviously we know um typically you're allowed one part of the business which is already one

established okay and I understand what they're trying to do looking ahead um has not currently been an issue so um one of the things we might want to consider is as they become this ADA Compliant it ends up being more of an issue if they come back and articularly say that this would be a more beneficial thing at at that time maybe it's something we can readjust uh re address without breaking the norm and the rules

that we already have in place of making any kind of exception um do you understand I'm trying to say no and I'm okay with that um it's as it progresses and it it takes off if you can come back like oh so listen this ended up being a big problem this all came about the parking one of the GS from the parking the park uh enforcement came over and said they were

going to be taking the signs out because it was a gentleman that lived in the house next door he had passed away but it was in front of our our building so they said wow no I want that to stay and I said well you know we've got this other thing going on so I spoke with someone upstairs one day they said put in a put in a petition and yeah and

present it so absolutely sure I mean we can we can take a look at it later I just want to get it on the record absolutely so um at this point do we have a motion for yeah I I think that with that being said and Mr gon uh I think if you have an absolute need in the future I think we can bring that back up for discussion but without that

I think I'm I'll make a a motion to decline on this have a second second no further notice yeah any opposed see none okay Mr G at this point we're going to decline um or deny rather a secondary spot but if um something comes up down the future by Els come back all right we'll be addressing thank you very much you're welcome than you sir work toight okay new handicap requests 207 ol the street

anybody once twice motion to motion to table table second let's table it okay 141 Robison hello give us a second we will review your packet and uh make decisions thank you

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just confirming do not have access to the off street parking of that property no for the off street parking well there's no off street parking there are well so down the street from roon street is that auction store in the street was a big parking where everybody used to park he is parked on the street he go to the do as he leaves there's no more parking there's no boxing anywhere on Rob

anything does anyone have a motion I make a motion to uh to approve motion to approve there a second right second any opposed seeing none all set thank you very much absolutely thank want to tell them how long it's going to take tell so it'll take about 12 to 16 weeks right now 12 to 16 yeah cuz once it gets around yeah cuz we're we're still waiting for the schedu for the

ordinance meeting so it has to go to ordinance full Council and then signed off by the mayor so we're looking at about 12 to 16 hopefully sooner so you'll see our maintenance crew out there they'll be doing the measurements um but there will be no contact we'll just send you a letter stating that it was approved and then uh you may be contacted by um ordinance and councel but not from traffic we much

okay all right 367 America Street hello

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crazy this towards the bottom this towards the bottom of a Amica

street now here's a driveway there there is you have that driveway we do why can't you park on a driveway well it's easier for her to come to the front door the front door is simpler for me to get into I not able as you normally would one step after the

other Rec the front door and I realiz my God it's it's just straight in There's No Going up a couple of stairs and then turn and then worry about going down the basement stairs completely understand where you're coming from you may have heard me mention earlier when it comes to the issuance of handicap space okay there are uh a few check the box guidelines that as long as they are

met we have no just cause to not go ahead and issue it okay fortunately I will explain this one real quick okay again I just want to preface it with we do not set these rules uh we just follow along okay one of the disqualifiers for us to issue a handicap space on a public way is if the requestor is the home property owner right and they do have off street

parking which is if you I I just asked the um the last resident do you not have access to off Street and it's no we don't so all that being said unfortunately as much as I can sympathize and empathize with your recent surgeries and your ailments we're not even going to be able to take this one to a vote because you do have off street parking on your property right very sorry about that but that's

not one the reason we applied is because we had a police officer to the house one time because we have these construction trucks that constantly are in front of my home M um so I can't you know it's easier like I said for me to get it I was trying to do that but I'm not able to do that because of that reason and she told me well you should go and get

the the handicap you know signs because and that would make perfect sense and I would probably have said the same thing until I got in this chair and realize there's disqualifiers uh I will say you You' made mention in your packet that often times these vehicles are blocking access to your driveway in the event that happens it's not going to fix it immediately but if you do call the

Station someone will be sent hopefully in a timely manner and that gets addressed immediately whether by a citation or they they will tow that vehicle w't take the truck we don't know why it won't we have one truck that is commercial but the second truck is just got regular place like you have on a car but well if it's blocking your driveway 100% we'll get you it only has one PL

but it par with Sanders it has PL trailers front of my house you name it I mean but everything seems to be fine it always comes back oh and regardless of the the registering status and insurance thing I'm sure they're running it I'm saying if they are blocking your driveway that's its own ticket I don't care if it is registered oh we've had driveway blocking for many many many many many

many years unfor it's one of those things you got to let us know because office is not going to just have that you know radar that you know that's when you can't get out I mean you know yeah we will 100% tag that person and tow it at their expense we do it daily but you got to give us the heads up on it okay I know it's not the most convenient thing

and sometimes you might be waiting um and I can apologize for that as long as can't leave like a space in front of the house where the walkway is to come into the house we cannot take up public way space um for any Resident especially if they have the ability for off street parking right that one is just out of our first thing you're going to see is a driveway and two

garages that's the and you own the property that's the first two things they're going to see the two garages and a long driveway and that's your property well I don't drive and he right but does uh anyone have anything to add on this yep we don't need to go ahead and take a motion this is going to just be motion to deny a denial okay sorry sorry I need a second on the me a second

on the is there a second for this second none opposed passes again sorry for uh wasting your time okay okay thank you uh 95 John Street any

treats

this long drive B that belongs to your house it does but in the Le agreement it's clearly annotated in the lease agreement no notes number 11 not allowed to use the driveway I make a motion to uh to approve I want to approve we have a second John seconds any opposed seeing none okay so we are talking there this sign is actually in front of 85 it's an existing sign the geman passed

away okay that's what I didn't know whether I put got that in there that still in there I went to this application is saying you want a handicapped spot in front of 95 John Street okay well I went in and talked upstairs and said there's an existing they said oh well maybe we can catch it because before we have and might not have to go through this are the signs and the polls

still up yes the signs and poles are both still up okay so if it's so basically if it is still up and it's still in ordinance then what you'll have to do is we'll just attach that we just have to assure that that individual is no longer utilizing that that's fine yeah so that is that's what I yeah you're just trying to use the one that's already there instead of waiting

for another 12 weeks for one to come everyone kept on telling me Go Get It years ago and everything like that and I said I'm not going to have two on you know right here when no one else can park are you utilizing that space now yes okay I have pictures and even last night they Park about a foot into my into that handicap area because I bet it's right along the driveway what that

sign starts okay so there's plenty of room and I can always back up because no one's behind me there so we'll just deconflict this new one this 95 with 89 ensure that that Resident that did come in and apply is no longer there and it will remain as such that' be okay that's thank you I'll be in touch with you in regards to that okay all right thank you problem 2527 South Main Street

h talking that school's very active now started back up yeah I am glad to see it yeah it's nice it's my grandson used to go to the old school and shut down I for the school I wanted the school there was parking for us at night where's the school the old Atlantis CH on top of South L it's one used to be a yeah now it's public school again it's a public school

again what's the name of it what's the name of the school I don't know the name don't get mad no I'm just asking I don't I'm just asking what's the name of the school the school it's just a preschool for the we're going to we're going to name it um Sal preschool I don't I call that I make a motion to approve so the handicap yeah placard is

for Dy D and she lives she came to live with me because she has oh and she drives doesn't drive notri she doesn't drive doesn't have a license cannot drive no yeah we got got to slow down on the motion there charie okay oh I I I thought I read that one of them yeah now the uh I'm going to go ahead and resend that we're going to talk about this one for a

second all right um again like I had address the previous couple here some of those automatic disqualifiers if you have a driveway you're not getting one if you don't have a license she does not she's the one with the handicap flers okay so because she is the one that's handicapped the space would have to be for her to utilize with her V vehicle she does not drive it would be you utilizing a

handicap space in her plard which unfortunately would be a $700 fine for you to do so since she doesn't drive I found the you know what I mean um so just so you have some Quick Knowledge on it if you were to park in front of your home where your mother mother mother lives right cuz your saying I'm her caretaker if I have to bring her I get it makes sense um but Mom's in the house

you come home you park there just in case you need to do that you have Mom's handicap Placer there you're going to eat $200 for parking in a handicapped spot without being handicapped $500 for utilizing her Placer in your vehicle for a total of a $700 nut you don't want that don't want so again I it is it's not our own rules if I even knew that right Ru right

right right I just want to make sure when when we deny somebody I want to make sure you understand why and you're not walking out of here just thinking oh it wasn't very friendly I got see you got educated and other people got educated so a lot of people are hearing this so you hope there was a reason why you came to educate people we educated the people so uh

have like to this at the beginning of this well you would you would have missed that company it's been a very informative month this has been an informative month uh so is there a motion for 2572 uh 2527 make a motion to decline motion to decline Rectify my my uh that's my Penance without John second any opposed seeing none we're going to go ahead and have to decline this one okay dear have a good one

she drives and she can just about drive all right 281 London Street like me 281 London my God so this one all right are you kidding me look at your pack on that read this one read that one read

it we do

automatic how are people going to understand out there well he's going to discuss that all set here we have this you can you can have a seat um we already have this and we're just going to discuss it real quick and I'll be with you in two seconds okay all

right right that is the only

oneing

it oh she's toy to have to let it Happ all right um just real quick for the board's knowledge on this um I was just made aware of it myself okay there's one particular uh medical diagnosis if you will that automatically will give you a um handicap space okay it just what happens this particular condition is submitted with the packet request for this address um it's an actual certification which is

in that packet if you want to review it real quick but um it slightly changes things as far as oh yeah I yeah you know what I mean yeah but obviously trying to be delicate without y talking about conditions no okay so uh are there any questions regarding that real quick at all all right so if someone like to make a motion to pass make a motion to pass motion to

pass Charlie is there a second get it John second uh any opposed n opposed motion passes uh all set man will be about 12 weeks okay okay what you will get your handicap spot uh measured and put up in front of the property this right here said she's a driver for the other that's what he said right she driving oh there she go same at end of my street there

school and a bus buses to they fly by I almost here a couple times a bus they hit a truck flying by yeah you're going to get your handicap spot approved we just voted on it so it is going to happen just give it a couple weeks for them to get out there and you'll see a spot placed in front of your address how okay didn't understand not a problem okay inter and

follow if she is with me in my vehicle good to go at a store 100% good to go no $700 F no F at all it would only be a problem just so you're aware okay I don't want you you a if she is not in that vehicle that handicap plaer could not be used if she is Park wherever you like okay okay very good thank you I don't get that 986 Middle Street have

H I want an explanation on this I'm screwed up we'll talk

unbelievable on this one on this

one

Miss Silva um do you utilize the uh Chevy you do um is the registration up to date yeah it's my husb it's his I'm just verifying because the registration you have provided in your packet um expired last year need a new one if it's approved um we are going to need a copy of the new one just to make sure that it is okay nope I I'll say just like I

said pack and expired in 22 probably probably um obviously she needs to clarify the registration and that it is active but we can make an interim decision on this provided she comes in with the proper documentation registration on her car stipulation that she comes in with the registration that it is active correct and it's a different address this one on the registration yeah yeah cuz it's an

old one all right yeah her LIC yeah her license has the correct address she needs to give us uh an updated registration that it is in fact good but uh provided she does that we can go ahead and make a motion and uh vote on this now if anyone is inclined to do so y stations to bring in the registration by Charlie second by Helen any oppose see none all set just get

that in as soon as you can to the second

floor

mhm that's fine you can bring it in and I can I can confirm that it is with the reg stre Motor Vehicles yep cuz your license has the middle street address so that's yep app no problem thank you uh 502 Alden Street helloo

got all kinds of addresses here got all kinds of addresses here I got hold them SN and language yeah mhm all right sir where are you currently residing 52 502 alen which they agreement attached that's why I have that and you've been living there for how long about 6 months he's not on the oh yeah who's Joyce Fado my sister she lives with you so you moved from Snell Street

yes langle and you used to live on Langley Street yes ma'am

166 he's requesting handicap as he d yeah so this uh this individual is on the lease for the U Malden Street address that he's requesting obviously his uh license still has the old address he's been living at the new residence for the last 6 months um valid handicap placard valid license and no off street parking does anyone have a motion make a motion to approve there second second second by Helen any

opposed seeing none all set motion pass thank you absolutely thank you 120 Oregon 120 Oregon that you no he's not here I need a second that table motion table John second John yep 447 East Main B guess save the best for life all right so yeah this one obviously guys um active active uh placard they're not going to have a license for registration for obvious reasons um but there is is no off street

parking I don't see an issue here does anyone have any questions for this no motion to approve motion to approve I have a second charie any oppose seeing none call set okay appreciate sorry you guys were live yeah someone's got to be lastone we were nervous he didn't have a license yeah it's different with the children did we do this one on London Street you did L it uh last thing guys uh a

resend of a handicap spot it's going to be Bank Street no longer there so uh motion to resend Bank Street motion to approve yeah second by Charlie any oppos none passed go ahead and close out this meeting third Wednesday yeah this one kind of motion toour motion to char second and we are I need the cops number