2.13.2023 Fall River School Committee

foreign like to call to order the February 13th regular meeting of the fall of a school committee Deb would you please call the roll Mr here Mr Bailey Mr Hart here Ms Laramie here Ms Pereira here Ms Roderick here mayor Coogan here salute to the flag I pledge to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all come on

pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting and may transmit the meeting through any medium attendees are there for advised that such recordings of Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible we have a few people for Citizens input tonight Melissa Braga Manchester Street Fall

River

foreign good evening I have some pictures here that I need you guys to look at um just leave them on the podium we'll bring them up after most I'll give them to Kenny if you want right behind you

okay I'm here to tire that I have a lot of frustration I am the owner and president of Braga transportation there's multiple times and sources that Emerald bus company has used the Rhode Island bus which is totally illegal I've reached out to multiple people to tell them what was going on I tell them to go and see they call them they tell them he just moves it to a different school

this is not the only city that he's doing it he's doing it in other towns um he's basically out to uh put me out of business per se and when you know when you do the contract and they give you this thing where you list the buses that you're going to use for for the public he has seven of them listed here that belongs to a Westport School three of them five of them that belong

to Bristol Aggie school so the buses that he listed in 2020 oh 2022 whatever this is um that he put down as being used for four of the public he's not using them you know he's non-performing performance he's doing what he should can to get the kids to school he's not using the right buses you'll see a bus in the pitches that says 908 that's an 0-9 the way Mr

Amaral mocks his buses is the year so if it's 908 that's an 0-9 bus but the eighth one ball if you look at the paper and I can give you this too but it's in the contract where he lists 2019 18 and 15 you'll see the first number of everyone in the bus is the year of the bus you know I tell people all the time he's not using it I got an excuse of oh we

had covered so we're giving them until December this is now February of 2023.

is he going to finish the contract with 09s they're more than 10 years old so I'm just wondering you know what's going to be done about it I was told he was going to be fined on a third on a Friday that he was going to be he was told on Thursday not to use the bus no again again and I was talking to somebody and I told them I'm following a bus right

now and sent them the picture that you'll see which is on that Monday so that's all I have to say thank you thank you um next up Colin Dyas Ray Street Fall River

um committee and um before I begin thank you to the last person who spoke and I hope the school committee and his due diligence looks into this issue it's um we need to make sure our laws are followed definitely and it's something I'm curious in myself um but going on the last time we I I spoke before this body I believe we were debating um sending City taxpayer funds to um organizations such as the jrc and

we actually heard members on this committee defend their vote saying they were voting Yes actually going to vote Yes for the taxpayers um I was also very disappointed that members of this committee and members of the department discussed DCF potentially stewardess and they discussed this in Open Session that's inappropriate I think that puts a school district at a legal risk and that's something our taxpayers don't

deserve you can't use this lawyer card only like we did with the super former superintendent only when it benefits your argument and then disregard it when it doesn't benefit your argument and I do expect the gavel to come down next time there is discussions of legal matters that's something that shouldn't be discussed in Open Session and we also I think believe I believe we need to amend our rules to assure that

not one department head can bind basically bind the city into a contract without superintendent or school committee approval and I believe we need to set our priority straight in the school district and when our school district is ranked 335th out of 351 school districts in this Commonwealth I have to say this to the everyday taxpayer renter homeowner watching this meeting at home you can count on me and

others to make sure that this school committee uses tax dollars taxpayer dollars to directly benefit only education of fall over students not one dime for anything else not the jrc not administrative salaries not privileged hiring but to teachers power professionals and everyday workers in the school district I believe this year and it's something I really want to talk about this year

and it's something it's a Rhoda District district before probably before I was born is privileged hiring for decades you should be selected to work in this school district and I know the superintendent I know the school district's put in a lot of good effort into the hiring of new teachers and paraprofessional which is great General common I believe you should be hired in this District based on what you

know and not who you know and I just really quickly have a question I saw the Nago Auditorium was on the agenda for tonight and again I'm all for using finding a good appropriate use for this building my one question is if we allow EMS to occupy the auditorium will that prevent any Performing Arts maybe from Durfee or another organization from using the building while EMS occupies that

building and I just hope someone can ask that question when it comes up on the agenda and I thank you for your time thank you Charlie Charlie Chase on North Main Street Fall River

yeah I don't know whether it's a good a good evening or good afternoon but uh um I want to give my greetings to the board and to the people who have showed up here I've been very remiss in not coming to these meetings um since I came to the city uh 30 some odd years ago I just wanted to introduce myself as uh Charlie Chase someone who has for about 45 years taught mostly at college level

but uh some at high school including one year that I was over here um I have a few concerns about what's going on around the country and right here I assume that it is the same I hope not um I see many school districts that are deciding that the school is the proper place for upbringing the students I do not believe in that I think the parents are the people who upbring the students

um I've been told by certain officials that um many of the parents they're on some program or something like that and they could care less about what's happening with the kids I don't think this is absolutely true I think this is something that's being brought on people if that is occurring and I think it's the school's responsibility to help to make it so that the parents have more input into

the school not just PTA but have more input individually along with that I feel that the parents should have the right to know what the students are learning and how they are learning it so they can help them it's at home I've had many complaints I did a survey on this about a couple of years ago and the the top two things were parental rights and giving the parents the the right to

learn what the kids are learning in school and how to do it because for example with the math many of them were completely frustrated by that they you cannot understand the new methods of doing mathematics and such the last item is regarding sex education connected with the with the libraries um books that are have been said to be uh improved by making them more awoke and you know

doing away with certain words or certain actions things that have happened in the past if we don't have uh understand what the past was and I'm sure any Educators here would know this if we don't understand what has happened in the past then we are going to repeat it again in the future we need that there not because it's good but as a guideline for helping us to figure out how we can make

this a a better school district and a better country um that's about all I have to say today I apologize for not coming uh to former meetings but I will be coming in the future thank you thanks uh next up Jeff gadrow Palmer Street Fall River hello members of the school committee I want to go on record victory taxpayers and the dis and students of the district for the vote to send

taxpayer money to the judge rottenburg Center and let me tell you that that place is rotten I also wish to go on record to State I am against privileged hiring in the school district and that this school committee should take steps to combat privileged hiring we should hire those based on what they know not who they know I hope the school committee can take a vote to condemn the judge

Rottenberg center that is something that is extremely important to me I am happy the school committee finally has line line item budgeting it is time we cut down on these administrative salaries and get more support to the Educators and mental health support sincerely judge Jeffrey goudreau 229 Palmer Street thank you Deb recognition Awards we have none tonight we have a few subcommittee reports on item number four

special education alternative education subcommittee notes who's going to address that uh Mr aggia please thank you very much we did have a very successful subcommittee meeting uh we talked about the Strategic plan which has been in place for a few years and how we're going to be moving to get the next strategic plan up and running Mrs open chain was there for her first meeting was very cordial she was

prepared we all seem to be working on the same page looking at the data looking at what how our meetings are going to run for the rest of the year at least quarterly so I really think it was a good first step in our meeting uh the committee members asked a lot of pertinent questions and we're awaiting information as we we go forward with the budget and to see where we're going to

go so I really thought the special education committee did very well the alternative piece of that meeting didn't happen this was specifically for special education the alternative education meeting will be in early March that's a quarterly meeting as well so I thought it went very well and it was a pleasure to have Miss open chain there for the first time so thank you and Mrs Ponce for your cooperation appreciate it

next the parent and community outreach subcommittee meeting notes that's amazing Miss rodericks so we met a couple of weeks ago and had Revisited what our goals were in terms of what we wanted to see happen in the district in terms of family engagement we had spent some time talking about the parent Square rollout and how that's really been a positive aspect to get parents more connected to what's happening in

their schools we talked a little bit about the PowerSchool rollout for parents so parents are able to access student information that way that has at least anecdotally resulted in some increased Parent Connection at the middle school and high school levels and we're looking at elementary school next um we spent some time talking about the community community facilitator roles and how consistently we've received

positive feedback about that that particular position there's been some consistent staff development in training around that role so that way all schools are able to access the same quality of care provided by those folks we do still have three schools that do not have a community facilitator but we're working we're working on that we also talked about the scl liaison positions and how the focus has really

been at the middle school and high school levels those have been really well received those connections are really promoting healthy relationships and we know that that supports more positive behaviors we know that that supports appropriate decision making across the board and it also improves our academics and better attendance and really that's our goal is to get kids in the building in school and they're not

going to do that unless they feel connected to folks so that's been a huge help speaking of attendance we are moving slowly in the right direction we are talking or we have re-established the attendance task force with some intentionality so that way you can really hone in on what the barriers are to getting kids in the building every day and we did talk about how the attendance cars are being used more

consistently to get kids to school and then lastly we had focused on community engagement we continue to work with Community Partners but now I think moving forward the goal is really looking at that after school time and that early evening time to support our kids because you know we we have our kids for a portion of the day but the community has them the rest of the day and that's it was a good meeting I'm

hoping that we can meet again shortly to kind of look at where we're at and that's all I have thank you Mr Rogers instructional subcommittee Miss larvey thank you Mr Mayor uh the instructional uh subcommittee met this past Monday at Spencer board and there were four items on the agenda uh first one was Mr Damaris and his team uh presented in uh previewed the Durfee program of studies

the vote was unanimous we went over everything uh what was unanimous to send it to the full committee tonight uh Dr Curley Dr Curley and her department heads gave a really uh good review of the assessment data the local assessment data the assessment data is in a PDF and was provided to the whole school committee this past Friday so everybody should have gotten that uh also had a discussion

on the curriculum pilot and the proposed adoption timeline that's also um in your email I believe in the last discussion was the school Improvement plans and District Improvement plans which will be discussed tonight it was a it was a good meeting it was an informal meeting uh the only thing going to a vote tonight is the um I believe it's uh the Durfee program of studies that's it thank you Miss laravey item

number five the superintendents report we have a couple of items that uh superintendent Pond would like to discuss with us so go ahead and um Madame superintendent thank you Mr Mayor um I think that it's important uh just last week one week ago it's hard to believe but um we had a significant storm that impacted some of our schools I thought it would be an opportunity for us to give you

um an overview of what exactly happened I know that we are going to follow up with um we don't have um costs yet we're pricing out everything that occurred as well as repairs we brought staff in ETC but um we had four schools with boiler issues already so Mr monus and Angel Borges who is the supervisor for custodians came up with a plan to be checking on schools we had because of

the cold we had asked custodians the senior custodians to go into schools in the morning and then in the evening to check the heat to check every space just to make sure everything was running efficiently Doran tansy green and Henry Ward are the schools we were worried about for boiler issues Mr monus requested that angel Borges and the custodial who is the custodial supervisor to have those schools checked

and monitored throughout the entire weekend meanwhile started checking Durfee High School out at 4 pm and that's on the Friday and on notice that the greenhouse one of the sides blew from the wind it was very very windy on Friday night and Saturday he then got called back to Durfee around 11 30 p.m because some alarms were going off Mr monus walked into the cafeteria noticed that it was very cold some of those

doors there was a door that had blown open roughly around 12 to 1am in the morning Mr Mona's got a call to head over to Morton for fire alarm issues meanwhile he got a call from Henry Lord for Burglar Alarm issues around 1 to 1 30. the wind had some uh impact on that at approximately 3 A.M Mr Monas got another fire alarm call for cuss the Pull Station was down

at approximately 4 30 a.m follower fire department was called to Durfee because the fire alarm had gone off at 5 a.m and Dave from e e was called and asked if he could get into beverus which was yet another issue as you can see just from that short thing it was a very very busy time for Angel Borges and Manny monus who's the director of Maintenance they were non-stop from Friday night on next

they went around to check schools to make sure everything was okay from 8 to 8 30. Mr between 8 and 8 30 in the morning on Saturday morning Mr monaster received a call from the Doran senior custodian to let him know that there was a flood with multiple rooms impacted caused by a univent freezing a coil from the heating system Mr Mona stayed there to isolate the situation until about 4

pm we had a custodians come in to help with the cleanup and they were also working to fix that heating vent phone calls were then made and those folks worked Saturday and they came back on Sunday also to finish the cleanup over there at Doran because we were unsure as to whether we would be ready Mr Monas then got a call from tansy to take a look at the roof from there he had another call

for 290 rock at 6 PM that the boiler was frozen there was some frozen pipes there he received another call at 8 30 that viveris had a sprinkler head that let go and that caused a flood in the cafeteria area and the stage while there at 11 30 PM we received a call from the Green School that another unitvent had let go and flooded three to four classrooms it was on the difference

between the Green situation and the Dorne situation is that the Dorn happened on the top floor which caused water to come down to all the floors and then the green was on the bottom floor so it was those rooms and then water spilled over to the other rooms Mr monus went back to Henry Lord at 2 A.M because several alarms were going off when he was walking in he noticed that the main

office was very very cold he discovered five unit vents that were frozen he worked to repair them and then went back to green to check on the leaking sprinkler head that was it was a small leak but he wanted to isolate that and shut it down because he was afraid that it was going to burst and he called the fire department to alert them because that's our protocol on Sunday Mr Monas

then headed back to Henry Lord to continue to work on some issues there he was there till 4 pm then he received a call from Mr pachico that the Early Learning Center had a burst pipe he arrived there at 4 30 and stayed until about 6 30 until that was repaired every single one of those issues required custodians to come in I will say that Mr monus and Angel Borges were

there the entire time at all those um Mr pachico and I reported and they were there through the whole thing um and on Monday morning Mr monus we started school we were ready to go everything was clean I mean outstanding job by a custodial staff to get us ready but on Monday morning Mr Monas received a call from the senior custodian at Spencer Borden that yet another unit vent steamed out a room students had to

be moved to another classroom in order for that work to to happen and for the repair to occur at every single one of those sites Angel and Manny were directing their Crews custodians maintenance work and really we were able to open because of their conscientious conscientiousness and and really dedication because they work around the clock so now Mr rag yeah thank you for the presentation on that

we had heard some of that the detail was not as great as what you say uh what you told us here today but it goes without saying in my opinion that Angel and Manny both worked tirelessly over the weekend when when I looked at some of the contracts and I asked the question today again that these individuals are on salary right and everybody else that works the men and women that work for

them would be coming in on overtime and they'd be getting compensated as such and when I look at the salaries that people are getting usually when you get a salaried employee where it's sort of everything is included that person makes the salary a lot higher than what a normal person would be making and in those two individuals I don't believe that they do and I think that the work

that they did was an emergency we were in a crisis and I'd like to make a motion that we authorize you to pay them the overtime rate as their men and women received for similar work of that entire weekend because the the money that was saved by what they did never mind the fact of looking into what maybe some things could have been avoided but I believe wholeheartedly that they should

be paid the rates the same as the men and women that they called in to do the job so I like to make that in the form of emotion I would second that I have a motion a second um um and I hadn't talked to Mr Aggie about this sometimes with these kind of moves they they end up biting you later I I have no problem giving these people comp time when

they're working extra eight hour shifts I don't think you can ring people out like this I don't agree with this and I I think that that would be a much better policy let them have a couple of days to go fishing in the summer let them have I I think I think when people come in with that kind of a schedule we should definitely try to make them whole but at

the same time I think when we negotiate a salary position we're not going to worry about every every uh every situation like this at the same time I want to acknowledge the work that went on I was out there I did see what was going on I did visit Thor and I did visitors I did go by TNC and people were doing a yeoman's job and I I would rather see us have a policy across the

board that allows people when they get stuck working extraordinary hours over a weekend that we acknowledge it and we treat them with respect hearing uh emotions yeah I can appreciate what you're saying but when you have to you have to look into the situation to know the salaries Mr Monas gets 75 000 a year we have custodians and maintenance people that work for us that make more money

with their overtime then the gentleman gets paid to work around the clock have stress and pressure on him like you've never seen and we have workers that get paid more than the individual who's actually in charge who Mrs Ponce just said for over 48 hours or 72 hours straight left his family didn't care about what was going on he put himself at risk to do what he had to do he

didn't say oh I can't go there or call somebody else the work that she just explained that he did and Miss Borges did to try to get them they deserve at least the same amount and Mrs boy just makes less money than him we have a salary problem in this district and that's the problem we have to do the research and figure out what the people make and what do they not

we had this debate over principles that we shouldn't have principles working around the clock and not getting paid accordingly here's an opportunity for us to step up and not give somebody comp time because quite frankly people like that aren't going to take the comp time because they want to do the job because they're passionate about it like it's their own house we need to help these

people they're not asking for this neither one of those people asked me to to make this motion but it's the right thing to do so I asked my colleagues to authorize the superintendent to pay them like everybody else was paid that worked underneath them I yield my concern with issues like this Mr aguir is you isolate two people over a catastrophic storm if if perchance you want to go to the policy committee with

a timeline and a ability to rectify the situation I think that's where it should go hold on I'm not I did not interrupt yeah I did not interrupt I understand so please call on me when you're done I apologize okay um so I what I believe is if that's what you want to make a motion to do then I think that that would be the form of a policy and I don't care if we backdate

it if that's what comes before us but to do it off the cuff off the stage while acknowledging the spectacular work that went on as I said I was out there I saw it I don't know if anybody else had that opportunity or they were fortunate enough um and I do I do want to acknowledge these people and if that's how the committee decides to vote then that's

then so be it but doing it off the stage right now without a policy going forward that will take care of everybody I just disagree with respectfully I don't have a problem with a policy that acknowledges work whether it's comp time or a dish stipends I'm not against that I do believe people should get paid but doing it off the cuff like this is not the right way to handle it at this time

Mr agya so the point I was making was the salaries are not such Mrs Ponce can you tell me the salaries of each person who was on salary that worked during that weekend that did not get paid because they run salary no well I we had principals come in but um other than that it was all the custodial staff and maintenance staff there right like I look at it and I say

you madam superintendent so you are paid salary you don't get paid overtime right but you also get paid 215 000 that would be 210 but 210.

the point I'm making no you're right the folks that that come in on salary would be your uh assistant Mr pachico makes 125 000. somebody else like the salaries when you're in that range come with that kind of thing in the territory of okay I would normally make like 70 I get overtime you know you include that so this is rational this is not something that I don't think is irrational

this was a crisis that we didn't anticipate coming in one hour or here or there is one thing but when you describe what you just described I I can't find it in good conscience to even let these people work another day without telling them they're going to get paid and when we look at the other salaries and I'm not meaning to throw it out it's public record what everybody gets paid at the

end of the day we gave those salaries to individuals based on the fact of you know at five o'clock in the morning answering calls you're going here you're going there that's why the basis is this I've done the research I know that there's custodians that make more money Union custodians that make more money than the director of maintenance and I'm not going to sit here and think that that's okay

it's not okay we need to pay these individuals and I urge my colleagues to not take them as advice and push this along and push it to another committee it's the right thing to do I ask you to please consider it the superintendent if she really went against it she would be sitting here saying no Mr I disagree with you if I had to put which in her mouth she

knows she saw the work and she knows they should be paid with that I yield Mr Rogers so I think this is one of those situations where at least for me I'm looking at it as we don't necessarily have a policy that covers every single situation because none of us can really tell the future we don't know what's going to happen next so a lot of times policies derived from these individual

situations this is the first time that I'm hearing about this but the more I listened to I knew they were out there that whole weekend but the more I hear about how every almost every hour on the hour they're being sent to another school because something's happening right so that's that's one set of issues that we had that many problems but the the fact is that they did spend all of

this time this was a catastrophic event so I don't think this is an either or I think this is a we can do both that we set the stage right now we I would support paying them for that time and then we do refer to the policy committee and put something in place to say that you know I can appreciate the comp time but you know at salaries where you are

are not making two hundred and ten thousand dollars that's not going to pay your mortgage right comp time isn't going to take care of that so I can absolutely appreciate that we don't have a policy in place but again I think the reality is is that none of us can anticipate what's going to happen that's where a lot of policies come from so in my mind we can do both

at the same time it doesn't have to be in either or and with that it yields um Mr prayer okay um obviously I I mean I agree I think we definitely have to look at the salaries we pay people in the district and make sure they even out to the work they do especially if they're managing people because there's nothing more than a blow to morale than making less than the person that you're managing so

that's a given that's not gonna change this minute with this vote um so I agree that that needs to be changed I agree that I would love to see you know those custodians get compensation because this was an extraordinary situation um my only hesitation is that we have quite a few employees on salary and my hesitation would be that this would open up like uh Pandora's Box type of situation

it's it's potential not saying it would happen but I'm saying that there's a potential that that could happen we could have then people say well I had to work this and that and then we can't I mean are we just going to be paying everybody bonuses one at a time at that that obviously wouldn't work that way so I agree I think they should receive compensation for that weekend I think

that this is something I agree with with Sarah we can you know we could potentially do both um I do think they deserve compensation for that weekend I do think we need to revisit this in policy because if this is something that's recurring then we need to you know get ahead of the game so that this doesn't happen again um however I am my only hesitation is that if we say here all right we're

going to provide them extra compensation um I'm I'm afraid that we're going to have you know other employees saying well wait that's not fair I'm on salary and I work this many hours and I and I'm sure not all of them make a hundred thousand or 200 or whatever um I mean I work salary trust me I don't even get children and they probably would try to give me

comp time and I would say I don't want the calm time so I agree with Sarah as well like comp time no no thank you give me give me pay Compton isn't going to help me this week when I'm dragging from working um so I mean I agree with the with with everything that you know well almost everything I guess that Mr Aggie are um and Sarah are saying I'm just hesitant

to do this immediately here so quick when this is the first time we've kind of heard about this so I'm hesitant hesitant to vote on something like that um I think that if I would be fine personally if it went to policy and we rectified this policy as long as we're guaranteeing like 100 guaranteeing that we're bringing it back so that these gentlemen get compensation when it's settled

I think I think that's like the best of the Both Worlds in my opinion without me feeling like I'm making you know a huge mistake I feel like them waiting for that compensation you know I'm assuming won't be too rough because when you make salary you tend to try to at least try right to live on the salary you make because you don't usually get overtime and all that jazz

um so I'm thinking that it's less likely to be an issue if if those custodians um you know have to wait a little bit to get that compensation versus what may explode if we just take this vote now like we might be stirring a big pot I don't know so I don't know it's the first I've heard this those are my thoughts with that I yelled Miss laravey thank you um I'm leaning towards Mr aguiar's

motion uh and not waiting I mean I know it's a very very difficult situation and I know it was 24 7 for almost three days but um compensation right now I think is is the right move I think they were in the position they stepped up that weekend and what would we have done if they didn't right so right now making a decision saying thank you you deserve to be

compensated and then we go off and do our jobs and set up a policy meeting just in case this does set a precedence of the situations that we are discussing so if we compensate now we leave it up the superintendent do what you need to do move very quickly in a policy meeting and get the job done but the the work that these two people did for this four of District was amazing and

um I'm going to support it this time I mean it's not their fault that we don't have a policy right now it's not it's kind of our fault that he doesn't make as much money as other people so it's something that we have to fix um they did their job and fix the schools so I think we have to compensate them right now and and move in and set a policy meeting and and do our jobs

a yield anything further Mr agar yeah I appreciate everyone's comments and I do think that we can long term have a policy I agree with all that stuff I I do think we should we should look at it not necessarily as a policy but when we sign a contract with an individual uh we should stipulate the terms of that of such contract Mrs Ponce is in a tough position because she relied on these

folks all weekend so when she relied on these folks they never asked one time am I getting double time am I getting overtime am I getting paid at all they just came and did it so that's the part that's really getting me to know that this is the type of individuals that came but during that time if Mr Moniz Mr pachico or superintendent had to call somebody We call firepro we call this

one we call that one you're going to see the bill come out when she gets us the information all of those folks got paid when they come out on a Sunday if it's in the whatever you're going to get double time you're paying you're paying your pain so really it's not a matter of in this case only paying two people this is an issue that we're gonna if they wasn't them we're gonna pay somebody

else if they didn't do what they had to do we'd be paying somebody else to come in serve pro or the like to clean out entire areas and and have even more of a mess never mind the preventative piece how much savings were there in in this kind of work in preventing maybe there were some situations where the the stuff wasn't taken care of properly when we find out the information those are the

questions I'm going to ask to see if it's if there's other issues that need to be corrected but I do think it's the right thing to do I think the superintendent uh needs to have that flexibility and to Mrs pereira's uh concern this is not precedent setting we can we can amend this to say for this one storm only if that makes or feel better that it's just for this catastrophic uh event uh whatever the

date was this event only I'll make that in the form of an amendment to say just for this particular piece but I don't know anybody else that's on salary that doesn't make six figures so I don't think that we have equal people so I'd make that in the form of an amendment to just for this one isolated weekend Storm Mrs Ponce has the authority to do what's right and pay these gentlemen uh the man

and woman the overtime with that I yield I have a second to Mr aguio's Amendment second I have a second I have a motion a second so we can vote on the amendment first I guess this will be specific to this one storm anything further that please call the roll this is isolated to that weekend yes yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Hart yes Miss laravee yes Miss Pereira yes Miss Roderick yes yes now on the original

motion to pay them for that weekend that police call the roll let's try again yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Hart yes Miss larvae yes Miss Pereira yes Miss rodericks yes mayor Coogan yes the hiring update please um superintendent hiring updates since our last school committee meeting we have onboarded one administrator six teachers two related service providers codas slpa eight paraprofessionals six education

support folks Community facilitator ISL scl Liaisons eight substitutes and eight operations positions including security cafeteria and custodial we for a total of 39 new hires we have also on the other side seen 23 resignations and we are anticipating five retirees for the end of the school year or over the summer thus far thank you superintendent we have three sets of minutes that we'd like to approve tonight

um I have the 7-1 approval of minutes of the regular school committee committee meeting from January 9th I have the approval of the minutes of the special ed alternative education subcommittee meeting from 1 23.

and I have the approval of the minutes from the parent and community outreach subcommittee meeting from 2-1 do I have any questions on the minutes emotional proof I have a motion to approve second I have a motion a second any discussion on those three sets Dan please call the roll Mr Dragon yes Mr really Mr Hart yes Miss Laramie yes Miss Pereira yes Miss rodericks yes Mary Coogan yes

we have a number of travel requests under item 8.1 motion to approve I have a motion to approve travel second I have a motion a second any discussion on these travel requests hearing none dead would you please call the roll let's draw again yes Mr Bailey yes Miss Laramie yes Miss Pereira yes Miss Roderick yes mayor Kruger yes item number nine is the acceptance of donations um it's super it's a superintendent

Ponce on behalf of the father of those who request acceptance of six thousand dollar donation from the Bristol County Savings charitable Foundation is you will be used to sponsor the wsar radio show any discussion on the donations could I get a motion to accept I have a motion a second Ted would you please call the roll Mr drag down yes Mr Bailey Mr Hart yes Miss Larry yes Miss Carrera

yes Miss rodericks yes mayor Kruger yes item 10 is the approval of contracts now generally we do these in a bundle unless someone has one item or two items or three items or as many as they want to pull out any discussion on the contracts what Mr agya just uh I think the last time I mentioned if this was approvals or he's already uh just a request for payment so I'm assuming that they're all

if you notice it nothing's nothing's on the bottom continuations of contracts on the bottom and then the others are new contracts we want to make sure just so that we could so there's not differentiate between the two yeah so the bottom was 360 000 for precision Human Resources that's not a new contract that's a is that like a blanket is that what from here that's a continuation I

think those are uh well it's that's like a higher that's higher it's not an additional 360 000.

no it's an it's an additional 360.

services what are these Temporaries this is for the agencies that we are hiring staff from yeah the only reason why I asked I don't disagree with that per se but if we're doing that that means we're not fill in a position that wasn't able to be filled so at some point that money's gonna correct this money is going to be deducted off somewhere else just so we can kind of see where the the total is

that's uh the only other question I had was on the the one for the bleachers inspection that's a I'm assuming that's a um annual like it's going to be come up all the time so yes that's the uh the entire gym infrastructure so that'll be a regular occurrence um this is um a per year contract yep so what I would recommend just trying to streamline this particular process that's something that I would think is

in the budget somewhere it's budgeted for 11 000 or whatever for that amount I think we need to look at whether it's through the policy subcommittee of Finance is something ways that this doesn't necessarily have to come on here because we have to do it it's an inspection you know we have to do the fires we have to some of those things I don't necessarily think are on here so I'm going to vote

to approve it of course but I think that we should look at streamlining this so that you're not coming back here with things that are automatic it's not a new every year you're going to have the same thing so that's just my thought but with that I make emotional prove them all any further discussion just quick Miss laravey yes so why wouldn't this be under continuous Madam superintendent

which one the one we just discussed it's just the bleachers and all the stuff at Duffy Mr um pachico oh Mr Mr someone yep so if we have the the bleach so I think what we're going to have to do is we're going to have to discuss we have to discuss it in finance to pinpoint exactly what it is that that's wanted I kind of understanding what you want but

um I think we have to be clear because I don't want to be in a situation where we I assume that because it's in the budget and you guys haven't seen it and you find out later that we moved on with something that you didn't approve you know per se and I think we have to clarify the piece on who the vendor is that's chosen because those change that's not automatic every year so I

think we have to have like a further discussion to talk about exactly you know what it is and how you want to move forward with it yeah I think it would definitely taking strides by now this is new to continuous so I know what I want to see I want I would like to see all the new ones you know in a alone and the ones that we you know yearly every

other year stuff like that because there are things that we do on a yearly basis right and the things that we do on an early basis in most cases are with the same vendors but there are a lot of cases where they're not the same vendors so it's yeah you know one of those things so it's I think we have to break down exactly what it is that the school

committee wants now we can work on that perfect thank you are you so there's also we're also Bound by the ten thousand dollar piece so we can buy eight bubblers six bubblers and it's going to end up on this page and maybe that number needs to be looked at also because we can't buy much with ten thousand dollars anymore when it comes to supplies and stuff like that so if

that could also be one of a topic for a finance thank you anything further Deb please call the roll I need a second oh I need a second second okay let's try again yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Hart yes Miss laravey yes Miss Pereira yes Mr Rogers yes mayor Coogan yes item number 11 is the approval of Grants um we only have one uh genocide education any discussion on that

can I get a motion this motion to accept I got a motion in a second is that please call the roll Mr Agave yes Mr Bailey yes yes yes yes Miss rodericks yes mayor Coogan yes Committee of the whole item 12-1 is a discussion and vote to approve the selection and appointment of Alyssa Cabral nurse for the Fall River Public Schools as presented by Tom Coogan I have a motion second I have a motion

this second any discussion on Ms Cabral Deb would you please call the roll Mr agam yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Hart yes Mr Harvey yes Miss Pereira yes Miss Roderick yes mayor Kruger yes item 12-2 is a discussion and vote to approve the program of studies the course catalog at Durfee High School as referred by the instructional subcommittee and presented by Matt Damaris principal of BMC Durfee High School Mr Damaris

good evening everyone thank you for giving me the opportunity to be for you tonight you all have the program of studies in the executive summary I just want to highlight some things we organize the executive summary with four organizing principles student achievement and accountability as a focus okay so we are looking at how we can formalize in a structural way in our schedule intervention to continue to

expand on the work that's going on this year and then aligning course curriculum to high quality instructional materials such as the College Board Carnegie Project Lead the Way so we're expanding offerings there so that segues right into number two increased Advanced coursework options where we have boosted on numbers in a very big way this year and looking to next year to see that that growth continues in

terms of students participating in pre-ap and AP classes so we're expanding those offerings we are expanding our early college Pathways and in the summary in the science department in particular you see a major expansion in our Project Lead the Way course offerings and those courses count as advanced academic courses when students take them in the junior senior year when we're talking

about the accountability formula for the school we're expanding we're proposing to expand career in tech ed programming adding the criminal justice courses as a potential first step to a a new CTE pathway we're expanding the infant can toddler care that's ongoing right now and then with our Co-op liaison coordinator on board now we're looking to really boost and take that step to co-op so there are some students

that do co-op but not enough so those seniors that go out into the field related to the shop they're in that counts as advanced coursework for them but it also gives them that Real World Experience outside of the walls here and then the fourth organizing principle expanding a curriculum that reflects the diverse student body and personalizes learning and we're doing that by way of

expanding our AP offerings and some new offerings in the world language program if you want me to respond to anything in particular in terms of specific courses being offered or the programs that are in the program of studies be happy to answer your questions any questions for uh principal davaris Mr Aggie another question just a comment I was at the meeting so I reviewed a lot of the stuff here there's a lot in this

as I mentioned that the other uh instructional subcommittee meeting and the structure of how we operate as the school committee is that we hold a superintendent accountable to then hold the high school accountable and all the other schools so my comment at that time was that we need to see results I said that at in the past I said it now I'm going to say it here again so the superintendent is aware as

at least from this member that I really feel like we need to see some results so we need to do what we need to do to support you which I think we've done and the results hopefully are going to be you know forthcoming but there is a lot in here if your staff worked hard they were all ready to answer the question so I want to support this and I wish you

for the best just know that we are looking at we need to have the results thank you I yield thank you anything further make a motion to approve have a motion I got this motion a second dad please call the roll Mr Dragon yes Mr Bailey yes Mr harp yes Miss laravey yes Miss Pereira yes Miss rodericks yes mayor Kruger yes um 12.3 is a discussion and vote to approve an additional SEL position and

office para at Talbot as presented by Tom Coogan and Brian rapoza principle of Talbot um principal raposo is looking to have the same structure that's in place at both the Morton and the Talbot schools there's two positions he has in play here on the first position the scle liaison he currently has one for two of the three grades that is his school Services he's looking to have one dedicated to

that third grade again using that in that first responder role for any uh student needs and help to support the students in that grade the committee was good enough to okay a third SEL liaison which dedic is dedicated to his uh substantially separate classroom strand which Services about 75 to 80 kids in six different classrooms so this would be an additional one to that just so

that he can have that complement of one scle liaison for each grade the second position is a paraprofessional that would staff the student service center so that when students come down before speaking with either a administrator or VP regarding any referral or other need that there's somebody there to greet them manage them also either reschedule them for later in the day depending on the caseload that's

going on at the time and that position exists in the other two schools they have a paraprofessional office power that staffs that area and receives those kids so there's no students unattended while they're waiting to see somebody I see principal proposal has joined me so I'll step aside and let him speak to the merits of either one of those positions if there are any questions any questions on these two items MS

laravey hi Mr proposal just quickly who's watching the kids now when they go down there so right now um we don't actually at our school we don't um we don't have a policy or system where kids get sent out of class what we do is if a teacher calls for support we go to the room uh so an sclea is on a sack could be an assistant principal um if you know we're in a situation

where a student might need to wait a couple minutes we're utilizing the main office for that you know which which is a bit challenging at times or someone else who's available we might say Hey you know if you can hang out with so and so while we deal with a different situation so this person would primarily just be working just around that student support piece so that my office paraprofessional that I have now and

clerk can focus on you know running that main office it was just a small safety concern that's all I asked that question no they're not unattended don't worry thank you I yield anything further Mr eggier yeah just a question on the structures it says this would be looking to replicate the structures in the other middle schools so I'm assuming that that means that the middle schools have a one for six one

for seven so they all have three sel's no that's I think that piece was only about this the power professional for uh the office of student support that's what the other middle schools have right now um we have a pretty solid structure for the scle Liaisons in our building but I do not have one Staffing sixth grade so I would be looking to add one to my sixth grade team

um currently but they do Mr agyard the other schools have scle Liaisons for grade levels each creative yes because that's what I'm reading here it says to replicate the sixth grade is looking to replicate the structures of the other middle schools So currently I have in in as an example the way that the student support team functions in seventh and eighth grade I have an scles on I came to the committee

um advocated for a third to support the substantially separate population this would technically be a fourth but this would be positioned in sixth grade because I do not have a person there at each of the sixth seventh and eighth grade with this Edition I would have an scles on and an ISL at each grade level and what we've done is the instructional support liaison is working around academic support Credit Recovery

students who are struggling might be failing classes they're going into classes with students working through maybe they're struggling in math whatever it might be the scle liaison is working very closely with the school adjustment counselor doing sort of direct response around the social emotional piece so with the addition of this one I would have one in sixth one and seventh one and eighth and then I

still have one that supports just the substantially separate because I have the district uh program for social emotional um at Talbot yeah what happens at the K-8 schools for the same Dr B has a office she has a Sam replicates the high school instead of an office para sorry I should have clarified the SEL liaison piece right so that it depends on I both K-8 principles are here so certainly they

can speak to how they're using their positions in their schools but uh principals have come to us based on their needs and asked us for how they divide up their um students and how how the kind of supports that they want as product they created many teams the second seventh day cohorts are smaller at those particular schools too so they could speak to how they use their scle Liaisons in those buildings yeah the

only reason why I'm saying it is when Mr proposal is talking he's talking Middle School it has a whole slew of issues that are just Middle School related I have support what you're saying but at the same time we have a K-8 school has Middle School age kids granted they have less strands of them but they still have a need for them just identified just as to deal with the middle school and I

think if we're going to build structures we should be building them like this makes sense but you just said makes sense the ISL the selea is not like there's a system which I think tells us all that we're doing the right things creating these positions but I just want to make sure that we're doing it equal for other places if they don't ask for it doesn't mean that they don't deserve

it as part of their structure that's basically what I'm saying the one about the office I know years ago cuss had one that was paid a lot more than everybody else in the district is that now or is that person left so it's sort of everybody's unequal playing field they were on government contracts that was a power that was on government contract they were different it was not even that I think this was a

parent worker type thing or something like that they got paid sometimes more than anything but that's no longer so these are all going to get paid the same in each other yes and my last comment is on the salary so um Madam superintendent I know we had spoke I sent you a um a request to look at some guidelines for salaries as we go to these different positions and as I

just said I think things make sense along the way like we have the ISL we have the selea's on we have a certified counselor we have but I think that we need a structure to say how much people are going to get paid and what steps do they go on and I know there's been incidents not talking about the individuals because I have no problem with any of the individuals but when you

look at a position we have to be careful when we give steps and I don't think we've done a good job of that over the over the years and Madam superintendent knows exactly what I'm talking about so at some point I think we need a policy that states just like in the administrators contract it states if you were working for X dollars and you get a different job you're going to go on the

step above where that was it gives a structure to it what we have sometimes is somebody's making like 32 000 working in the same school and then they get 55 000 because we don't have a structure so the only thing I would say is short of a policy Madam superintendent I'd be very careful of how you issue the steps so they start at the I think it makes sense

to start at the lowest step of the next level of employment and then it will it won't create those inequities so as long as you think that's going to go through I definitely support this invest the wishes to you thank you I yields any further discussion uh Deb could you please call the role yes

um I am 12-4 is discussion vote to approve the additional two SEL Liaisons at the Green Elementary as presented by Tom Coogan human resource director and Liz Dunn principal of the Green Elementary School principal Dunn is here to address any questions in addition you received the backup in your folders and your binders for tonight's meeting um the logic being again to create a structure where there's an scle liaison

paired with a sack at each grade level the sac can do the little bit heavier lifting and in the work that's involved in working with some of these students and providing Services the scle liaison as the first responder and sort of the support system uh at the at the first level um and I'll let uh Dr Don speak to that good evening everybody um we currently have one scleas on and obviously we have three School

adjustment counselors so the idea is is that we'll hire two additional if you if the committee so votes to work individually with the school adjustment counselors to support their work right now we have one that's supporting all three sacks in our building any further discussion to approve I have a motion second second any discussion Mr aggia just the same questions probably for Mr Coogan about

where what do the other schools look like um as you see tonight there's another motion for another school behind this one I think the um the selea's on program is beginning to sort of take hold um and some of those effective strategies that are being implemented are are driving these requests for further as we enter the budget season I expect that we'll probably see more requests to to structure this the same

again this is a new position this year so this is evolving as the year goes on and as they see the success of of the response those people and the support those people are able to provide that principles and then coming forward with more requests to try to implement that program thank you uh you know I support this I I think where we're lacking is in the information across the district on

it so if we could potentially just get an update on what it looks like so miss Dunn was talking about she has three School adjustment counselors and she's going to have one seleas on the back up to three so I'm supporting that but I'm supporting that without knowing what do the other schools do similar to that so if I'm at a different school and I have three School adjustment counselors who was backing up those

people at those schools to see what their structure looks like that's my only it's not against this but it's I don't want to wait for the budget to worry about well maybe then we'll get Equity if we can get a report to say here's what it looks like for the school adjustment Council liaison across the district it'll help us in the future maybe next meeting to figure out as people watch this and say oh wait that

makes sense we should all have one or if they're using it in a different way they have an ISL instead all I'm asking for is a report but that wouldn't make sense thank you uh Miss Rodricks so along those same lines obviously I fully support a social emotional liaison like if if I had my way everyone would have multiple of them um and I I fully understand allowing schools to determine what their

needs are right that makes perfect sense to me but I'm wondering if it makes sense as we're trying to really Implement some structures and and Implement some Equity across the district across schools can we look at some of the best practices that we've seen from schools that have used them well and then bring that information to schools that maybe don't have an scles on or a community facilitator in fact

and talk about like what are the things that are working and what are the things that maybe need tweaking so that way you might not think you need one because you might not be sure how to use them exactly but here are some here's some information from schools that have used them really well and you know I know at Talbot they're using them very strategically and they're really taking

a load off of some of the the work that the sacs are doing you know I I disagree with the the idea that the sacks are doing all the heavy lifting because I think actually our SEL Liaisons are doing a lot of the heavy lifting in that in those buildings because we know that it's not our our kids that are receiving Sac services that take up most of that time it's our

SLE is on so I would love to see some kind of best practices across the district Mr Google it's not a it's not a knock on you I'm just saying there's a value to this position I was just going to apologize for uh using the wrong words I know that was providing the services at a certain level certified counselors Etc so we know you went I just want to add value to what the SLE

is on absolutely and I think what you're seeing is that as this position evolves this year those best practices are what are driving is these requests for more so then can we take those best practices bring that information out so that way other schools can see how they're being used that's my only comment that's my suggestion and with that I yield um do I have a lunch at a second Deb I'm

sorry yeah I'm sorry just one as I'm as she was talking I looked at the rationale and the last paragraph on the rationale reads there are elementary schools with smallest student populations that have more SEL support staff than green we need to be able to meet the needs of our students and believe the extra support will be effectively able to meet these needs so that's that last paragraph is exactly

what I'm talking about so if it shouldn't be that one other schools have more SEL support then they we all need to have adequate SEO support so that just highlights exactly what I'm asking thank you do I have a motion a second Deb you do uh would you please call the roll sure yeah I'm sorry Mr argue yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Hart yes Miss laravey yes Ms Pereira yes Miss Rodricks yes

mayor Coogan yes uh this is 12-5 is the same exact same thing to add an additional SEL position at riveris elementary school as presented by Tom Coogan and Patricia Woody Princeton

uh principal Woody's on her way up but again this is similar to the motion we had from Principal raposo uh regarding a an essel liaison to serve as a specific population at her school and to help her respond to the needs of those students so I'll let her speak hi so we currently have a behavior therapist in selea is on at the vivara school and this year we had a large influx into our social emotional

classrooms our special education self-contained classrooms and we sort of repurposed one of those positions to support those classrooms so we're asking for an additional SCA liaison so that we can um go back to the structure that we had for our general education classrooms we had a catered to student adjustment counselor signed as well as an SEL liaison to each grade level so that's what we're hoping to get back to

any discussion I already have a motion in a second that would you please call the role yes Mr Bailey yes yes sorry yes Mr yes yes Miss rodericks yes yes 12-6 is a discussion vote to approve the school committee meeting calendar for school year 23 times second I have motion a second Miss per hour um just asking if sorry just asking um if the committee would be willing to I am unable to attend be in

town on May 8th or be here on May 8th I was wondering if the committee would um either change that may meeting to the May 1st or the 15th like the one before or after if that's nobody else has anything going on and that works this way I don't have to miss a meeting you mean April uh no I mean may all right it says May 13th on my my

piece so you know oh it's this year this year this is next year this is from next Tuesday next year your next year's calendar yeah so it would if it was the first Monday in May as opposed to the 2nd of 24 year yes of 24. 24. okay yeah I'm sorry I don't have the calendar right in front of me Kevin no problem I'm just reading it so as you were

talking on May our meeting is May 13th 2024 right and what's the one before that the April 8th ape oh no no I mean in May the people there's only 24 there's none there's one the 13th yeah the 13th of May she's referencing a week before the week after Miss Pereira are you referring to the current year no we're referring to this to this time no no I'm this year's too late this it's

already up well we're having our meeting right I'm talking about this is 2000 and um yeah the following one but what I'm saying is I'm not here the second week and let me look yeah so if we could move that meeting to I guess the sixth to like the the 20th the week after then I would be able to attend that's all I'm saying if we want to keep it the same we can that's fine

personally I don't I wasn't trying to say I'm not in favor of it I would just read it I may not be here who knows but when you said the eight I'm thinking ahead so if you needed to sorry May 6th she wants to go well no I'm saying May 20th like do it a week late can we do it a week late is that a problem so you're not going to be here on May

13th correct all right I thought you said the eighth that's what I was before no I wrote down the wrong date sorry no problem my apologies for the confusion yeah if it's a problem it was a motion made a second okay I have a motion a second to move the May 13th meeting 2024 to the um 20th of May 20th could you call the roll them yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Hart yes Miss Laramie hmm

yes Miss Pereira yes Mrs Roderick yes but can I make a comment go ahead um so I have no problem changing the date right we're going to change the date that's not an issue but um I just get a little weirded out about changing a date to support one person when it you are absolutely right we none of us could be here next year because it's an election year and so that's why

I'm just sort of kind of I feel weird about it because we're changing that I'm I voted yes I'm not changing my vote but I just want to point out that it is an election year so it feels kind of weird to me to approve changing a date for one person when none of us could be here agreeing on this stage so I just want to clarify that that's the look on my face and that's

why I kind of seem a little weirded out by it no and if I can I agree which is why I said I totally understand because I very I don't even know if I'm gonna attempt to be here but I'm just trying to be proactive and think ahead because I don't want to continue to miss every May meeting it doesn't seem like I would be doing my due diligence if I didn't at least kind

of think maybe that's a possibility so Rectify it now and I figure whoever's sitting up here you know at that time they'll be okay with it too you know I did you know but so I appreciate it though thank you mayor Kruger I just didn't vote yet Kevin yes Mr agya yeah I'm sorry as we were talking in Miss Pereira indicated that it's too late for the current year so I think out of respect for the

similar type of vote if she's not going to be here on May 8th why don't we just move that meeting in a couple months to the second whether it's the 15th or whatever because if we're going to do that I think we need to be cordial and respectful to all of us and she just mentioned that she's not going to be here on the 8th now that's three months notice for everybody I think doing the

right thing by our colleagues would be to move that meeting to the 15th if that's what would help to make sure that you're going to be here I would make that in the form of emotion but if you could just tell us if that there's the 15th work thank you I appreciate that yes yes having a motion to move the May 8th meeting to May 15th 2023 yep okay thank

you Kevin I got a motion a second Miss uh Rogers is just checking her calendar oh sorry yeah wait maybe just got up too we might wanna that's all right we get the voters check under the motion there I thought Miss Rogers no I'm sorry who's seconded the motion Mr Aggie I made the motion I need a second a second I got a second from Bobby to be aware of that that's my concern location may change

okay keep in mind that it is a busy month for the schools and we have to be cognizant and we may have to move the location but that's not for three months to go we'll find a place Deb would you please call the roll Mr Dragon yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Hart yes Miss laravey Pereira yes Miss Roderick yes mayor Coogan yes and you'll send that out an email to everybody please thanks

12 7 is a discussion and vote to accept can we just take a motion um roll call on that that was just a change that was just to change but the actual okay the motion was made oh the motion was made a roll call I called the roll please Debbie yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Hart yes Mr Laramie Mr Herrera yes Miss Roderick yes yes thanks Deb 12-7 there's a discussion a vote to

accept the school Improvement plans and District Improvement plans is presented by Dr Tracy Curley assistant superintendent the chief academic chair

good evening last week we had an opportunity at the instructional subcommittee meeting to present the district school improve the district's Improvement plan along with the school Improvement plans at that time we had offered the subcommittee members an alignment overview and I think that is something that everybody has within the alignment overview is a link to all of the individual School Improvement plans

and you may or may not have had an opportunity to look through all of those but what we wanted to show in the alignment document is that District instructional priority of providing all students Equitable access to an engagement in grade level work and then providing scaffolding where needed and in the alignment document you can see that in all of the school Improvement plans there are statements in terms of

the instructional priorities for each of the schools that aligns with the district priority action plans are aligned and I think what one of the things that we anticipated potentially for discussion was the fact that the format across schools isn't the same we did give schools an opportunity to either use a new format that was introduced to us this year by the department of Ed or to use an older format the previous

format that had been introduced to us by the department of Ed and one that all of our turnaround schools were using so this year the formats look a little bit different one format is aligned to the turnaround practices one is hyper focus on an instructional priority that is district-wide with schools Associated action plans does anybody have any questions anybody have any questions Miss

rodericks I'm glad you brought that up about the plans because I gotta tell you it made it really challenging for me to be able to look at what one school was doing and what the priorities were there and what the plans were because they just looked so very different now I had issue that had nothing to do with anybody accessing the information but I do want to point out that the link for

RPA actually gave me a Spencer board in okay and so I couldn't see any of this the RPA information okay and then Sylvia the only information that I had was their cover sheet it was just the like I guess the first slide of a presentation and I didn't see there was nothing else okay forward so I don't have any of those two pieces okay um so is the plan for them to use the same

yes okay we will moving forward so this year was the first year that the state actually offered this this new format and at the district level our ilt participated last year in a prioritization process that was something that we brought to all of the principals in their teams during the administrative Institute so during that time we we offered up the new format but some schools had

already started working on their plans in the old format and out of respect we said keep doing that make sure that you incorporate this new instructional priority and so that's why they look different this year but moving forward everybody will use the same format I completely get that that makes sense you don't want to just kind of create this upheaval and make everybody redo all of

their work but it does make it hard because the same information isn't isn't presented for each school so it makes it a little bit more difficult a lot more difficult to be able to compare what one's doing versus what another one is doing what the priorities here might be versus what the priorities there might be so I'm glad that moving forward will be the same but I completely understand

the rationale and I wouldn't have wanted to change it either that that wouldn't feel right I have two questions so I don't know if they're questions but they're more comments I guess so have we gotten feedback from teachers about the number of walkthroughs that are happening because I'm seeing on all of the plans that there's a lot of walkthroughs there's a lot of teacher evaluation

um have we gotten feedback from teachers about what that is like for them to have folks coming through their classroom and what the quality of feedback has been and has that made a difference in in what they're doing sure so we we have not gotten formal feedback around that we have certainly gotten feedback from schools from individuals we recognize so we came up with a structure we developed it a couple of

years ago in terms of the kinds of different the different kinds of walks that people could expect at schools and some would offer personalized feedback others would offer whole school feedback sometimes it would go directly depending on the walk it would go directly to a principal and the principal would then communicate to the staff and so staff might see things like in four out of five classrooms high quality

instructional materials were being used in three out of the five classrooms the scaffolding was appropriate for the task and for the student audience that's the kind of feedback I think school teachers should expect when we are um when there is a district walk or if there is a body of school and District personnel otherwise what we're what we're doing is sometimes we have accompanied

School leaders whether it's a department chair or a principal we some administrator in the building on school walks and sometimes the purpose of those walks is for a director to be coaching a department chair or some other administrator in the building and we did find that if if we were providing any coaching and then that feedback ended up in you know with a teacher and it was personalized

feedback I think we we did learn that that was making teachers feel uncomfortable that a district administrator was in the room and then there was feedback we were differentiating those in terms of coaching up a school-based administrator but that wasn't being differentiated for the teacher so we have backed off of that so now if we are in a school for the purpose of coaching a school-based

administrator a teacher doesn't receive that kind of personalized feedback they go into multiple classrooms and they're still getting overall feedback so I would just encourage that piece that we ask our teachers what is that like for them and is there anything about that that would make I understand the purpose but is there anything about that process that would make teachers feel more

comfortable I know you know teaching in higher ed I get really nervous when the director of my program starts walking through my classroom even though she's typically just coming in to check in with the students it still puts me in a different position of feeling like you know there's somebody monitoring my every move and believe it or not I am an introvert and so that feels very stressful for me

um so I would just encourage getting that feedback from the teachers to see what that feels like because I know I've also heard from my own Childs that there have been a lot of people in and out of the classroom and so what is the impact on the kids as well because that can be really dysregulating or disruptive for the especially the little ones who might not understand why folks are coming into

the into the classroom I'm not telling you that you should not be doing walk-throughs not at all and I do not want you to hear that but I'm just suggesting that we go back and we get that feedback from the teachers and look at too what the impact is for the kids and then going back to the kids I also noticed that there's a really significant focus on assessment there's there's a in data collection from our

kids what is that what is the impact on students right now and is it just because when I read this it feels very assessment heavy but is that the case in all of our classrooms like are our kids being reassessed just constantly in a very formal way because that's how it reads so coming out of a joint The Joint Labor Management committee is a couple of years ago was an agreement that we

would not in any particular content area that we would not hold have more than three District level assessments so for anet we would administer A1 A2 A3 and then there'd be an optional one what happens at the school level I think in terms of formative assessments um there's always the potential for that we're asking teachers to gather data all of the time and sometimes that comes through observation

and sometimes that comes through with you know informal data collection and sometimes even even for formative assessments they might it might feel potentially intrusive for students and make people nervous but I think that that's just a kind of a discussion that needs to be had over and over again with students and with families that we're not collecting data for we're not collecting data for

nothing we're not collecting data so that we can be kind of evaluative of students and and what they're capable of but it's really to inform instruction so and I feel similarly I think about the way that we go into classrooms or not our feeling is that the more we're there it will just become kind of nothingness go in and out seamlessly no one notices you're there what aren't for in our

experience students are you know so happy to share their work we sit down alongside them they tell us what they're working on that they're proud of what they're doing so when we feel like if we keep doing that if we keep it up then everybody will just get more comfortable with the whole process do the kids know why you're there when you walk into the room this is just me as a parent of

three very different children right one kid wouldn't even notice that you were in the room I have another kid that's going to be the kid that's going to come up to you and she's going to show you all the things that she did and then I have another one who would become very dysregulated by having folks in the room and not knowing why they're there so I'm just wondering do we go in and do we

introduce ourselves do we say why we're there so that way the kids aren't feeling like hey who's this person that's walking into the classroom so I think in terms of kind of the whole group you know entrance if two or three of us walk into a room we I think we we try initially to just you know to just be walking watching and then interact when it's appropriate so that we are not

interrupting in any way but and when that happens we certainly introduce ourselves and some students will say I you know Are You The Boss I had someone else the other Are You The Boss no I'm not the boss I'm just here learning so I think that I'm the boss of my house yeah maybe so sometimes so we um so I think that we try you know I think we're all Educators

and we're conscious of the fact that it can be it can feel to a teacher like an interruption even when we don't mean it to be we have some teachers who as soon as we walk in will say don't worry guys that you know they're here to then they're not here to see you they're here to see me or these are my friends or whatever it is so um I think everybody's pretty conscious

of that and makes an attempt to make students feel comfortable but I understand that certainly there there can be a student or more in the room that are not comfortable at all and these aren't criticism these are these are just points that I'm I'm making because when I read the plans that's sort of how it comes across and so that's why I wanted to clarify again they are not criticisms they are things

to think about and if I don't ask the question then I'm not going to have the answer so that's um where I was going with that and with that yield anything further Mr aggia she's had it I was at the subcommittee meeting so I knew some of those issues so one of the things we talked about when I was able to look at a few of the uh actual plans was the data that's in it

relative to making progress and all that stuff so I don't think that I didn't look at them all but I think there's some that was just referring to when the numbers come out we're gonna do increases or whatever else so I think it would be good if we could get some like just pull out the data of what the actual goals are for each of the schools so we know my students are going to go

from X to Y that they were done at the wrong time and it didn't come through I think it's a timing mechanism but I for one can't necessarily try to hold the superintendent accountable to make progress if we don't know what she's holding everybody else to and I think she wants to know that info as well but in a nice clear concise way I think if you could present that to us it would be

much appreciated uh in my view the um you had mentioned something about an agreement on how much assessment can you just send us out on the private uh on a Friday email or something it's the first I heard of that so sure whatever that is Labor Management yeah whatever it is thank you I yield anything further do I have a motion a second there's no motion needed it's oh okay oh I'm sorry

no it's a vote to accept can I get a motion I don't think we need it I think the law now reads that we just have to get them presented again vote to accept we should check that out in the future but yes I just I need a motion I have a motion a second Deb call the roll please let's try again yes Mr Bailey yes yes uh 12 9 I'm sorry 12 8 is a discussion

and vote to address the Fall River City council's request for input by the school committee as to whether there is a need to increase the compensation for school committee members so I guess this Falls to me um in response to a letter initiated by um School Committee Member

a recess please uh returning to 12.8 obviously the Florida city council wants to know what the school committee's feelings are on Mr aguiar's letter um asking for a pay increase for school committee members uh I I would ask Mr aguiar if he'd like to explain what what that was about sure thank you Mr Mayor so as you know I've served on this committee for a long time and I like to do my research to know

what people get paid what people are doing their jobs and the responsibilities and I know we all take our job very seriously here on the on the school committee so I'm going to read the letter so that the public can get exactly what I wrote The Honorable Fall River City Council and I copy this to the mayor I did this this way because if I was to talk to all of my colleagues

ahead of time that would be a violation of the open meeting law and I did not want to do that so I sent this letter with my home address based on me as an individual sending the letter I want to write to you today to request your consideration of a change related to the compensation for school committee members the duties and expectations of the school committee are quite similar to

the duties and expectations for Fall River City councilors the school Comm committee compensation is currently less than half of that which the city council receives while I do not believe that anyone serves on either of these two part-time elected positions for financial reasons alone it does not make sense to have two different compensation levels for very similar positions I respectfully request that the city

council consider passing an ordinance that reads school committee members will receive compensation for performance of their duties equal to the compensation of Fall River City councilors thank you for your consideration now my rationale for this was I've seen in other communities that exact language is used so the members of town councils School committees they get equal compensation and if you look around the

area there's some that have some school committees don't get paid I vehemently disagree with that we need to have people on the school committee that dedicate their time and and time away from their families in all communities should respect the position of school committee and treat them with the respect and the benefits that come along with that if you do a little history in the old days school committee members

were eligible to pay to have health care from the city paid at the same rate as everybody else not free paid I happen to take advantage of that 15 years ago when I first started on this committee because I was going to school I was doing an internship for free and I needed health care so I was able to take advantage of that health care and paid almost my entire school

committee salary to pay for the health care that I was to receive that's a benefit like every other person has so my intention on bringing this photo to the city council was that it's under their purview it's under the preview of a city council to create ordinances in the city of Fall River and the purpose of this letter was to ask for their consideration to actually get it to the city council

go to the ordinance committee and let the ordinance committee do their due diligence back up find out the information how much other people get what are we looking at the timing this is not something that we should do tomorrow and we're going to get a raise this would be something that would go into effect the next election no matter who gets elected but I think it's a valid thing to look at while at the same

time through the process when you look across the city of Fall River there's boards and commissions in the city of Fall River that don't make sense either so they want people to donate and dedicate their time well there's no Rhyme or Reason Why each Board gets a hundred dollars one get none some get three thousand some get five thousand different things so I think this is something to we're not making a decision

here but I definitely think it's Food For Thought in the future to let the ordinance committee do their due diligence and come up with either a plan whether it's a multi-tiered plan whether it's all at once whether whatever it is but it is definitely in my opinion haven't been dedicated to this school committee over the years there's absolutely no way that the school committee should get 45 of the pay of a

city council I'm not demeaning the city council and any way shape or form they deserve and get earn the money that they get but there's nobody that can tell me that we only should be getting 45 percent of what a city council gets so I ask for your your consideration there's actually nothing before us to vote on that that is legal or anything this is before the city council they asked us to weigh in

I've already weighed in with my letter and I'm weighing in here today I'd ask you all to be honest and open that we're not making any decisions let them do it and as Miss Pereira said or somebody else said we don't know who's going to get elected next year anyway but if they if they looked at it now this has been going on for years so this is something that needs to get

looked at so in the future somebody might say hey you know what I'm going to go put my name on the line I'm going to go out and and take the risk and I'm going to get compensated accordingly the same as the city council nobody should have to make a decision to say well I'll make another nine grand so let me run for city council you're passionate about the schools you should

be running for the schools regardless of what pay and for anybody out there that's going to say well what are you doing you just want to get the money I'll tell you right now I'm running for school committee again I don't give a care if I get paid seven thousand or zero it's not why I'm doing this the end of the day we shouldn't have to make that determination the city council it's

their purview let them analyze it and come up with a plan with that I yield okay so just be clear on that um there is no open meeting violation for having a discussion about an item that we have no jurisdiction over I checked with both corporation councils on this we have no as Mr aggiel was kind enough to point out this is entirely in the purview of the city council we have

no jurisdiction over pay raise so it can be discussed prior to a meeting um legally the second issue is I have no problem and I told Mr aguiar this putting together a panel with a couple of members of the school committee maybe a couple of members of the boards one paid one not paid and a couple of members of the city council to sit down and come up with a reasonable pay

increase I do believe that as Mr um Aggie I just pointed out a hundred percent increase one Fell Swoop is not something I can support at this time I can support again a rational calm process where we have plenty of time before this election is up to study all of the boards he's exactly right I told him this yesterday when we were gabbing about this that we can do a calm rational study and come up

with a plan to increase it that the city council merely wanted our opinion it's as as Mr agio said it's not binding or anything they wanted our opinion on his letter which is what's exactly in the memo from the city council at the regular meeting of the city council on January 24th the discussion was held regarding a letter received from school Committee Member Kevin aggia that's all we're talking to

is his letter at this time and all I'm asking for is a show of hands or or a roll call we can make it it's unofficial we don't even need a motion in a second we have no jurisdiction over this whatsoever as Mr aguiar was kind enough to point out it's just one of our feelings and going forward um we'll get a couple of volunteers from the city council a couple from the

school committee and come up with some calm rational ways to both give people a fair Shake on their pay and look at the boards as Mr agya pointed out Mrs rodericks um I think an opinion is probably going to take more it's a little bit more nuanced than just a roll call so speaking of someone that had no idea that the school committee even got paid at the time that I was until

um Deb reached out and asked for my direct deposit information that was when I figured that out so that's the position that I'm coming from I do think now knowing because I was unaware that some boards were paid others weren't paid that this one is paid this much that board is paid that much I do think in the interest of getting people to run and serve that there has to be some

Equity across the board so if if we're looking at it in terms of the amount of time that is anticipated right none of us can say for sure how long somebody spends doing X Y and Z for looking at that then I do think we need to have a planful move towards creating that system where if you're meeting once every three months then this is what the pay is going to be if you're meeting

every month then this is what it's going to be right and if you have decision making ability then this is what that looks like and so we create a system that's my opinion that we create an equitable system across the board I agree Mr Hart thank you Mr Mayor um yeah I've now this is my fourth term as a school committeeman in three years as a city councilor um and I obviously would never ever

support something like this um it's a 100 increase but um mayor I mean if you want to put together uh some kind of panel or Committee of whether it's school committee members City Council Members or people in the community that's fine but as far as this goes tonight I have no interest in accepting 100 I mean we can go over this all night thank you I say Deb call the roll Mr agya what are we

the the city council wants to Simply know if we support Mr agya's letter the raises and the boards and what we do later can come out they simply want to know if we support made in the letters referred to the council committee with the request that the letter be sent to the body for their input on the matter that's it whatever your input is yes or no that's fine and as Mr agya said we have no

jurisdiction over this uh so is not yes or no right so when I read that I hear they want our input okay I just gave my input okay no but you gave yourself if everybody just weighs in and says what we think if we want to talk about it but there shouldn't be a vote because they don't there's no need for a vote but it can also be hand raising so they

know what we're talking about well not don't have to be afraid of anybody having a safe I just want to have input right now um I mean my feelings are I'm not I don't want to go 100 right now I am in full uh support of moving forward to clean this up so right now if we had to vote I would say no but if we had to vote I would say

yes to move it forward and fix it just and support what Sarah said so there's Equity across the board um so I would say um that I I guess I'm leaning toward what you know my mindset and Sarah's uh seem to be the same here in terms of yes I think this should be compensation that is equal related to work that we do so my only question is and and again it's

hard to say how much time do you know other City councilors spend watching subcommittee meetings they can't attend how many I mean that's all vague we don't know what we do know is how many meetings people go to how many committees they have to be on in that so I guess we would go by that so I definitely would I would support us getting uh by us I mean not us the future school committee um

having a pay that is that is equal to the work they're doing so if I'm looking at okay this body meets once a month the city council meets twice a month you know this body we're also on committees subcommittee so are they we have Finance meetings so do they so I mean do I think we should be getting and also we're dealing with the population of the school district right which you

know don't get me wrong my phone blows you know can you can ring off the hook on days but nothing like nothing like if I was on the city council I can I can guarantee you that um so you know which is which is fine which is why you know um I'm here you know this is what I choose to do because I'm passionate about it and like everybody is saying

here it really doesn't matter if the pay is equal or not if you're on the school committee it's because you're passionate about our our students you're passionate about our Educators and our school district but the school district is one portion if you're a city councilor you're answering to a bigger budget and a bigger proximity an amount of people in my opinion so do I think we should at least be

getting half of what they get yeah I think the school committee should be getting paid at least half of what you know the city council salary um brings in and you know I've been doing this job for a little over a year now so I mean I think that's that's I think that's fair to say that whoever's here next year should and and again you kind of in I don't there there are um

towns like you said who don't pay at all which boggles my mind because you're not going to get qualified people who are going to take their time put their name out there publicly take time from their family dedicate time to their Community you're not going to find a whole lot of viable options if you're not providing any kind of compensation for hard work so I I agree with with Mr agyar

um in terms of that I just don't know if I can rationalize it in my head in equal pay but I think it's a conversation um you know that the the city council can have certainly I think we should you know certainly I think um the the school committee should should be compensated at least half that'd be my opinion okay Mr Bailey um for me personally I agree with uh

Miss Rogers was saying when I when I joined the school committee I didn't even know we got paid to be completely honest with you um so for me um I just think it's a bigger conversation and personally I'm not comfortable having it right now just being on the the committee for a year um you know Mr Aggie has been on the committee for much longer than I have so even when we talk about tier systems or

um you know payer or something like that he can speak to a lot better than I can but I definitely think this is a conversation for me personally that I'm not comfortable having is something that um you know maybe we had in the future or something like that and that's just that's just my opinion on things but voice okay plastic larvae uh Mr Mayor do you think you don't think we need a roll

call to be on official record um well again if you look at it I would say I don't want to speak for anybody so I mean I have no problem it's not even a real roll call it'd be a roll call to proceed okay I mean that would be my opinion I'm sorry I didn't see him no problem so the reason why I say there's no roll call needed is because I think everyone

weighed in and what they asked for at the council I watched the council meeting typically what happens is they get a letter from anyone they put it and place it on file and the counselor would look out up they'd make an ordinance a request to send it to the audience committee they didn't go through that process and that's why it was like people were scrambling oh it's 100 oh it's this what's that I was having all

the arguments most of them I didn't agree with but at the same time I wasn't even there at that meeting because I didn't know that they were going to bring it up so I would be at the ordinance committee we all week they asked us as far as input so I don't think putting people on notice here to say well I don't I agree with some of what Kevin said but maybe not a hundred

percent maybe that we haven't even made the argument for what is and why okay so why are we going to say no but with that being said I just want everybody to know I watched the meeting and when people are saying and other members of this committee have said the same thing oh I can't we're negotiating with contracts two percent three percent we can't give this kind of percentage we

can't give this kind of percentage but I want people to understand if you do your research and you realize that this committee voted to give a 48 raise to coaches in one season every year 48 4200 or 3 800.

they deserved it but at the same time we voted for that so if we're going to say in one breath we support a contract that gives a 48 or 38 percent for one season of coaching that's 10 weeks why would we not give the amount of money that we should get as school committee because we work just as hard as a coach and I'm not demeaning coaches I was a coach and

I support them but we can't talk out of both sides of our mouth here we've given raises that are thousands of dollars to people that deserve it why would we not do that to ourselves to at least have a look at it so instead of saying oh we only give two percent to to uh unions I don't think that's a good argument at all and I firmly don't believe that

there's there needs to be a vote the ordinance committee as Sean kadima's chairman is going to take this issue up and they're going to address it and at that time anybody wants to go go to the council and make it your voice heard them with that are you well we went back and forth so we'll make sure that I mean I I the last line says until the school committee's input

is received I think the input can be you know if they want to watch the meeting tonight um I I thought if we told them that it was X to X and we want to go forward with a panel to take care of it but I'm not going to I'm not gonna fight with everybody I think we got everybody's opinion so we'll let it rip next item up it's Health First as presented by Paul

Coogan I may call on Mr pachico to help with this a little bit um this is the update Health First is one of our Community Health Partners they want space up near the parent center with the uh disconnection of the old ramp from what was the Nagel Auditorium building to the um original Durfee no longer there there was some empty space along the wall not per se in the auditorium

where Health First would like to put up a school health center Mr uh pachico I hope he corrects me immunizations health checks kids that are being um enrolled in our school system can be processed right there working with our School nurses we'll have a place in the building where parents can come to get medical help with an issue they asked a partner with us what we're looking for right now

um is a small spot in the existing parent Center which has already been renovated a temporary spot with the hope that um as the city and the schools look at things we find a way to go down that Hall if you picture it as you come down the old ramp you take a right you're going to go down towards what was the biology room towards the woodworking room there's a

room in the far corner and there's a long room that we'll talk about in a minute Health First would like to set up a school health center in there to help us monitor the health of our kids have a dental set up in there there's a lot of things they want to do we had a meeting with them but right now I would think this is just an update on trying to find them a

temporary spot in the parent Center that exists now until we were able to renovate the area they want kind of clarification I'm sorry can I make a point of clarification a question of class just one second just so we know we're moving on this because we did get a grant from the state um that that uh went to Health First to set up a school Center I know if it was

one year or two year but we're trying to incorporate that money into our Innovations going forward Mr ragia just uh clarification of a question on we have received nothing in the agenda today on this we haven't received nothing on this at all so I would like to find out what we what role did the school committee have before what role are we going to have now and and I think

we I'm not opposed to what you're saying but I have no information even from before so I think some sort of backup and maybe table this till next month because we don't have any information we voted already to prove this Mr Vega but but how long ago all the people that are on here now never even heard of it I've this says update and I this is the first

I've heard of it well we've we voted for this and all it is is an update on our plans moving forward there's really I don't believe um much has changed we did have a meeting with Health First and this was this was all a discussion Point like we're having right now but I gotta believe that's about where we are Am I Wrong Mr Pacheco I I I'd like to

remember the date but I want to say it's been at least a minimum of a year yep if not longer that um the committee voted to entertain this process but the process hasn't moved yep so the process is not really moved an inch since the school committee voted on it and again it is a grand opportunity that Health First received to um in some in some districts this is within

the building so this is a high school um component it's it's in the high school and in certain communities so this would be to help out with the pace and it and its process of immunizations and checkups for students who do not have a physician to go to and then it's also a situation of sick kids in in the high school that may not have a physician to go to that could be looked at immediate immediately

without setting up an appointment that's about that yeah and again the biggest that I have uh for an explanation I think Mr Aggie I was right this hasn't been in front of us for a while I think this hit us just maybe pre-covered because we were going to move on this sooner and then everything got ground to a halt um they came back to us I want to say we've had one tour and one

meeting uh we're not there yet but this is this is an update if anybody wants more then um we can get you whatever we got from them but it's going to be if if we end up deciding that's the best way to go we'll give them a corner of the building but right now they're looking for a temporary spot to do some work in the pace Mr agya yeah the only reason why

I'm asking and I do think this is something to explore but what we're talking about here is we don't have any information so if anything is going to go on the agenda it should be here's the update on such and such a Day in 2020 the committee voted for X we look to explore health risk we never talked about going into parent Center on the left side the right side this and that but that's a

school committee decision on once we vote on something like that we have a role to play so all I was asking for is we should get the information and know what our role is so we can decide like that building still belongs to the school committee so nobody should be taking tours nobody should be offering space in that building without the school committee knowing that's a respect to the school committee

in my opinion but if we could just get some info we might know maybe we could have some input on it that would be a great thing yeah this is just an updated this is just an update and when we get more hard facts we'll make sure you get them we're not there yet what do you got I was going to say uh in June on June 14 2021 the committee voted to approve a

partnership between follower public schools and Health First to provide basic health and dental services for students at the following public schools and provide a you know location within the needle building for these Services yeah so we haven't we haven't moved since then uh I mean again we got whacked a little bit and we're just in the stage of trying to put it together but I thought we hadn't voted but I

wasn't even sure they did this project okay you certainly could have voted clearly you did but if there's an update I'm ha I want to hear the update but if if someone could forward that information to the rest of us because you have three new people here who don't have that information okay and so we don't know anything any of the backgrounds yeah I was just gonna say if I could get

that should be nice to know what the program entails I mean we have a school nurse to take care of sick kids so is this like Dental appointments are going to squeeze in while they're in school and things like that again from the brief conversations okay yeah it is Dental is a component okay um and it's I don't want to say it's all of the services that are probably handled on Quarry Street at their main location

right sure but this is an on-site I think the grant the grant is written that way although it's not a odd Grant I think it was written that way that it would be um located at a high school at the high school yeah so it'd be interesting but yeah I don't have any information so it'd be nice to catch up could we get somebody to give us info on the grant could somebody from Health First like

who wrote the grant was it first grant was it wrote it for Health First okay so if we could get info on that what it's use is for what is it designed for okay what's the purpose of it all right fairly very very valid update potential use of the old Nagle Auditorium for the Emergency Management Service as presented by mayor Paul Coogan again this one will be very sketchy what they

wanted to do when you know how it sits down there you have that old woodworking shop in the corner the dead wall against what was facing the old building we want to start a new vocational program I think we did send in a preliminary letter I'm not even sure of that not yet okay we're waiting on that um for Public Safety we would like Durfee kids to be involved in a public

safety program which will prepare them for police fire get them a certification as an EMT and use it in our existing vocational shops EMS would be one of our partners in that they would locate in that space so that they could run adult classes at night to get people certified as EMTs and help our firemen get um I think there's another classification of Medics that the fire department wants this is

another area which is now a dead portion of the art it's not in the auditorium it's down from the auditorium towards the old woodworking area that would be something that we're trying to explore to maximize use of that building if we did this there is the potential for some em FEMA and Nema money to build a generator in there which would take care of the whole building to do some upgrades and that would also open up

use of some of the city's money to help with we have a major roof problem up there these are all ideas we're kicking around with ways to fix the auditorium up as far as the actual performance center where the seats are in the stage are that will not that won't be touched we have some people that want to use the one of the practice rooms but these again are all preliminary plans that are

not solidified yet this is simply an update on potential use of that area which would then I believe help the kids in the city of Fall River do you want to go down that path and some adults that may want to be career changes again having EMTs there training at night would not be a negative for our city or for the um or for the MTS that's where we stand on that one we're not

there yet either it's dead space it's not being used right now miss laravey yeah so is it has there been an official proposal from no EMT nothing no no nothing in writing I haven't seen anything in writing of you Mr pachico no it's just kicking stuff around we're trying to keep you around for the kids okay I haven't seen anything in writing yet it's just an idea the only idea that I did want to

try to pursue was the vocational program for the Durfee kids and finding a way to piggyback that with the MTS because uh New Bedford folk has a vocational program in public safety and I think anything we can do to attract people into our police fire EMT is a positive and again give them something Hands-On that they can use but again I have seen nothing in writing we did take a walk

through with the EMTs and that's where that was Sarah so could we have someone present what it is that they're potentially looking for because it just feels odd to me to have an update on something but then there's no concrete information to go on I appreciate the info and I think it is a really good idea right that we have a comparable program but it just feels really odd to me to not have any

background information or have folks here to be able to answer questions or for us to even entertain things you know like we're saying that we we don't even have anything in writing from these folks and we're kind of talking about two separate issues we're talking about in a program getting these kids trained and adding to our vocational program and having EMS come in so I think we're

talking about two separate things so it just I guess I need clarification I don't know if anyone else feels that way but I need clarification on those again I don't think anything I I kind of agree with you I'd like to know I'd like to forget it yeah no we we bring it up again this is this is how you live when you're uh when you're the mayor people come to you with something say wouldn't

this be a great idea okay come back to me and we try to move it along and that's where we are and so then I'm just reiterating that point like that's great but before it even gets to this point if I want to come on the agenda until we have information okay so we'll do that um Mr Hagia yeah just uh I agree with Miss rodericks but the the thing that I have a problem with is

that the school committee the building belongs to the school committee still so I have a problem when things are being discussed that the committee has never been aware of such as EMS walking through the building trying to find Space trying to look at space we knew nothing of that we knew nothing of that as a school committee and that building is still under the school committee's purview

so that's the part that gets me of just I think the missing step is the superintendent could have said okay we're going to explore the following give us some notice so then she can go out and look we might have start a vocational program or whatever it is we weren't part of any of these discussions so it makes you wonder well what else is happening is there are we going to have

other adults there we're going to do that all valid questions but at the end of the day we knew nothing of it I can tell you I knew nothing of it that's part of the problem secondarily when we have anything on the agenda we require the superintendent to do a one-pager explaining what it is and I would ask the mayor and any other member that or anybody else that puts something

do the same process give us a one page or so if we had questions we can ask them when the agenda comes out versus sitting here and we know nothing about this we still haven't gotten any answers from three months ago something was on the agenda about a citizen input type three months ago same Theory all I'm asking for is a one pager being fair to us superintendent and anybody else that puts things on the agenda

or yields okay next item up 13 for your information we have a number of retirements resignations appointments um I'm looking for a motion a second to accept them all motion to accept all seconded I have a motion a second that I'm Australia just had a question on there was one a a utility worker uh that left and I've always had a problem with the way that we're doing this utility worker thing and um

Madam superintendent is it if somebody's in a utility worker job are they denied to come to an open custodian job I don't know if this is absolutely not so if somebody's like I don't know the custodian if it's a tooth it's two separate it's two separate units of a bargaining unit so one obviously the the cafeteria side and the nutrition side and the custodial side but movement between those

they're not prohibited is my point it's not prohibited it wasn't like he said oh I wanted to be a custodian they wouldn't let me so therefore I had to leave yeah the only the only issue that would ever come up in any of those situations is because is um seniority but other than that we have so many custodian openings right if they choose to go if yeah if they choose to go into the custodial

open and they can't yeah the salaries are the same but they they can choose the job yes absolutely I've already raised my concerns about the utility worker that was all I want thank you oh could I get up um did I get a motion a second Deb could you please call the roll Mr Egg yeah yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Hart yes MS larvy Miss laravey yes Miss Pereira yes Miss rodericks yes mayor cougar yes

any new business to come before the committee tonight Mr Mayor Mr agar I uh I had received an email this morning this afternoon I forwarded it to the superintendent about a transportation issue I don't know if there was any update on it what happened is the parent who is concerned that the bus they wouldn't allow a child on a bus and they had to walk several miles home so uh the parent had indicated she was

going to try to come to the meeting obviously she couldn't but if we could just get an update on that if possible if not we could always follow up by email I I will follow up by email I know that that happened last week I believe Mr Pacheco and I both were on it we spoke to principal Davey we actually communicated with the transportation company made it clear that we can't just

leave kids and not allow them to take the bus so we will reiterate and make some contacts again absolutely thank you I yield it's hearing nothing further is there a reason to go into executive session there would be uh Mr chairman um do you want to read those reasons for us Mr National laws chapter 38 section 21a7 to review and approve the executive session minutes for January 9 2023 regular school committee meeting

National votes chapter 38 section 2183 to discuss strategy with respect to litigation with regards to Don Maderos individually and as PPA for coal a Medeiros versus the city of Fall River superior court docket number 2273 cv00105 as the chair has determined that an open session may have it that kind of impact on the litigating position of the committee National laws chapter 38 section 21a3 to discuss strategy with

each about the fact that bogging relative to all administrators employees are represented by the former administrators Association as it chairs determined that the Open Session may have a detrimental impact on the bargaining position of the committee National laws chapter 38 section 21a3 to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining relative to All Professional teaching employees the

forward School System including coaches Title One teachers nurses occupational physical therapists and specialists in the teaching profession represented by the Fall River Educators Association as it chairs to tune the Open Session may have a detrimental impact on a bargaining position of the committee National laws chapter 38 section 2183 to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining relative to all

government employees including without limitation of paraprofessionals parent workers and clerks but four of a school system that are paid from federal and state grants to represent by the Florida Public Schools government programs as the chairs determined an open session may have a detrimental impact on a bargaining position of the committee National laws chapter 38 section 21a3 to discuss strategy with respect to

collector bargaining relative to all cafeteria employees the affordable school system represented by the American Federation of state county and Municipal Employees Council 93 local 1118 is a chair to tune an open session made a detrimental impact on a bargaining position of the committee Mass General chapter 38 section 21A created this kind of strategy with respect about tobogganing relative to

all maintenance employees the forward school system represented by the American Federation of state county and Municipal Employees Council 93 Local 11 18 is a chair is determined that an open session may have a detrimental impact on a bargaining position of the committee National laws chapter 38 section 21a3 to discussion strategy with respect to collect the bugging relative to all

custodial employees former school system represented by the American Federation of state county and Municipal Employees Council 93 local 1118 is the chair is determined that an open session may have a detrimental impact on a bargaining position of the committee National laws chapter 38 section 21a3 to discuss graduate due respect to collective bargaining relative to all Safety and

Security employees in the former school system represented by the American Federation of state county and Municipal Employees Council 93 local Liberty team as it shows determine that an open session may have a detrimental impact on the bargaining position of the committee National laws chapter 38 section 2186 to consider the purchase exchange lease or value of real property located at 2501

South Main Street Fall River Mass as the chair has declared that an open meeting may have a detrimental effect on the negotiating position of the school committee National laws chapter 38 section 2182 to conduct strategy sections appropriation for negotiations with non-union personnel and or to conduct contract negotiations with non-union Personnel including Scott Cabral Chief Information officer Dr

Tracy Curley assistant superintendent Chief academic officer and Deborah Cavallo interim transportation coordinator we would reconvene they may not be statements at that time can I get a motion a second to go into executive session could you please call the roll Mr Dragon yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Hart yes yes Miss Pereira yes Miss Roderick yes mayor Coogan yes an executive session

back in full session uh Deb please call the roll Mr agam here Mr Bailey here Mr Hart here miss laravey here miss Pereira yeah Miss rodericks here mayor Coogan here anything further to come before the committee Mr Hunt uh a motion to approve the executive session minutes for January 9 2023 regular school committee meeting I have a motion a second um Deb could you please call the roll Mr

Dragon yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Hart yes Miss Laramie yes Miss Pereira yes Miss Roderick yes mayor cougar yes anything further Miss hot a motion to approve the contract for Tracy Curley as negotiated second I have a motion a second Deb could you please call the roll Mr agya yes Mr Bailey yes Mr Hart yes Miss laravey yes Miss Pereira yes Roderick yes mayor Kruger yes anything motion to

adjourn second Deb could you please call the roll again yes Mr Bailey yes Mr harp yes Miss Larry yes Miss Pereira yes Ms rodericks yes mayor Kruger yes