2.27.2023 Community Preservation Committee

uh welcome to the community preservation committee meeting uh being heard at the city council here in room one government center Fall River the meeting is accessible through uh Comcast cable channel 18 for local government TV Facebook and live stream um pursuant to the open meeting laws any person will be making audio or video recording of these public meeting or may transmit the meeting for any medium

attendants are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present or deemed acknowledged and permissible we'll start with roll call we'll start with the zoom we have Joanne Bentley can you just say here

okay uh as Christine Oliveira from Zoom I am okay then all right I'm here president attending by Zoom okay we have Joanne but a little audio problem uh Carol Caroline we'll start here in uh Colin I've been present Alexander Silva present John Brandt president Richard Calderon president Victorious president Rick Mancini president all right and we're missing somebody uh we don't have an appointment from the

planning board uh any citizen input nope okay can I have a motion for approval of the minutes from February 13 2023.

I make a motion that we accept the minutes from February 13 2023. I'll second that motion okay roll call vote it's all there Kristin Cantara Oliver yes Joanne we still can't hear you just raise like you said are you muted okay Carolyn Caroline open yes Alexander Silva yes John Brandt yes Richard Calderon yes Victor Paris Yes Rick Mancini yes okay uh let's see we don't uh okay we'll just

jump right to uh the funding hearing uh fy24 project we're going to start with uh but prior to this uh we do have probably eight on tonight's agenda uh if you don't get to ask a lot of your questions you want to ask tonight we still have time before we vote so if you missed something you can always call the applicant and get that direct so don't feel that you know I don't want to cut

the conversation short but um okay uh first if we can have uh forward uh ad building uh railing on Patio West Side a building main entrance restoration on Rock Street they're looking for sixty thousand

thank you

good evening board members my name is Ken pachico can you just State your address and all that stuff sure Chief Operating Officer for public schools resided 263 Hyacinth Street in Fall River and I'm Andrew Barkley with RGB architects um we're 50 Holden Street in Providence Rhode Island so you want to tell us a little about the project I'm sure so um the 417 Rock Street faces Walnut Street

main entrance however on the 417 Rock street address on that side on the west side of the building is the patio area and that railing on the patio area is um has been deteriorating for quite some time and it's probably in its worst shape ever right now with some pieces actually coming disconnected the um the product itself that we're going to replace with or all the the wood um is not available so we are hoping

um and we we had it approved um the other day actually last week or the week before the diamond school committee meeting the diamond is going to get involved in fabricating some of that some of these spindles and the railing in order to have us bring it back to as close to original as possible um we don't currently have approval from Diamond to install um the product but right now

um we're pretty excited that we can get our hands on that product uh and through the students and obviously it serves that second person purpose of having the students working on a live project especially one of this nature

William Braden home constructed in 1920 so in that time frame it's not on say in the historic overlay but it is a historic building by its age the railing in particular is actually quite unique took some time trying to find the components that are made that similar or it was done by hand in its time so that's actually when Ken and I both discussed maybe getting someone to fabricate it to match it because of

their short and wide kind of spindles and the top rail is very unique and uh it's it's really in poor condition but at the same time it'd be great to have someone match it and the cost of matching it in fiberglass or or gfrc some type of material that's say more modern it's not really in keeping with historic standards to keep the same fabric same look and so the concept of the school

the students actually be able to produce it and see it I thought that was a fantastic concept for now we'll you will be following Secretary of State's standards for the yes all right um now you're doing a railing and what else is that include anything else so the railing is is being done and then we're going to actually look at the front entrance the main entrance which we won't be using anymore but to bring

that entrance up to um up to where we think it should be we're going to be doing some abatement you know on the paint we will be doing very minor reconstruction because most of the um of the wood the The Columns and that trim work is in good shape but we will be also doing that work and outside of this project the district is going to do all of the exterior

painting so it's been a while since anything has been done on the building um EX on the exterior so that work is going to get done over the summer um on the upper of roof area the parapet

yeah so um the one thing that I I noticed that's missing because it's a project for historic preservation there's no letter of support from the historical commission is that something that you have um forthcoming or um I don't but I I will do my best to get that done quickly I do not yeah okay yeah because anything that falls under that category really needs to have that um so that the historical commission's

on board with that sure

did you have did you have one with your next application from your sub Commission we just did a walk through an unofficial walkthrough with a few people I don't know if I saw one in that so okay I actually was I did a walk through there yeah um I think at the beginning of June so I know the condition of it but I'm no longer on the historical commission so

I would still need to go through them did reach out via email to the historic review commission and um provided them with some of these drawings but but not that we didn't we did hear back but there was no official uh correspondence other than email so it's just good to have a support letter and yeah okay Julian any questions no I don't have any questions okay um I don't have any questions at this time okay

um so I know you said that uh the work is going to meet Secretary of interior standards for historic preservation I was just wondering if that was something that diamond students had done before on their own or what kind of supervision would be entailed to ensure that work is met to the Secretary of interior standards so like when if they were making the the railings as close to as possible so I was just

wondering what the plan was for that well my plan is to actually I'd like to meet with him if I could um to discuss it and just sort of go through it the process and then also as part of my construction say Administration I would definitely work with them in terms of taking measurements Heights and even if we can match the species of wood that's possible so I definitely I've taught before at the

University level and I think it'd be great to be able to work at the high school level and go through the construction technology class with them and explain that process to them so I'm available to do that or willing to do that unless that answers so it's not currently planned for part of the project though well we we have not met with so the instructors have been to the property we

have we also have a rail offense project going on with a metal fabrication program to um replace the fencing that was once on that property so we've talked to them on site they've walked the site they like the project they don't have a lot of opportunity to work on projects like this and um so I I don't believe that we've gone in a in a very uh organized fashion yet as

far as developing a lesson plan and and going through that I I do have a lot of confidence in the instructors um that each project goes through that particular process in order to let the student understand the background in each one of these so as a teacher of diamond for 16 years I know every project that I did when I was there had to match up to certain criteria whether it be in core um

curriculum from Department of Ed or whether it was something that diamond had done to augment that particular piece but it was always done for each individual project this would probably be not any different than those any further Richard I don't have any questions I just want to command you know very well put together packet um I also want to say thanks for including diamond school and kids to be a part of it I do

also understand that there is a process of kind of trying to incorporate this as part of the curriculum so I think it's just a matter I think once we do our due diligence here on our end I think you get the approval and I think you'll be you know I think you'll be a seamless project so good I'll see you on this project thank you well I just same thing here uh

take this time to say that I'm a diamond grad and uh we kind of uh I'm proud that uh you're putting a high school to uh do this project with you you talked about the fabrication of the rails and the spindles and Composites are recognized by the historic commission so if you can get a positive that replicates that that's okay but if not are you going to try and you did mention species of wood would you

disciples or Spruce or something better than you don't want to go in there with making Pine spindles because the one that's going to tear those apart so what would you be doing I'd really like to get one and core to see what it is but it's definitely dense um it's been there for 100 100 years so it's done pretty well I do believe that the lead paint has preserved it over time

and my intent would be trying to figure out what it really is I think it's probably I'm not real sure if it's Southern yellow pine or if it's a fur it's definitely dense the main spindle pieces um if at all we'd like to see even salvage some which would be nice found to be solid so that's really what I'd like to take one apart and see I know that the Box ends or not they're

they're made of something that it looks like a pine or maybe an oak but it's already um ironing over time again due to water damage and age but I'd like to match those details in terms of take it apart understand it and measure it and then put it back together in the same way would be that would be day 10.

I haven't done anything composite wise I've been looking it's just that they're really unique in terms of their shape the way they Bell the way they they're fluted so it's kind of a it is a custom and so that's what I thought it'd be great help rebuild that yeah I think it's a great idea using Diamond that's that's excellent and there's actually part of it we didn't I don't know if that's part

of this or the other uh but there's iron work like these Juliet balconies that need to be um you know maybe maybe just um iron brush and paint reseal them but there's some really nice Ornamental Iron Work that you improve they're not falling apart but and if if the students can help do the fence work they can definitely do that railing work so again just getting through that process to make sure that it's correctly

done with the school program so further questions okay so no more further questions we'll close that one and actually you're up next to on the uh window replacements uh 260.

I know you were got a sample window in well we hadn't so we haven't received the window yet to install oh it's um we were thinking it was going to be much quicker but it's a 20 week from we actually from when we actually ordered it so um we've got some time yet to wait on that um but um the plan would be to um order all the windows

have them all in play all ordered and in stock and then we will contract out the work based on the dollar amount that we can put in and also whatever the uh the award would be over the course of the windows and the windows do meet Secretary of State of standards oh don't worry um I don't have any questions the uh presume we'll talk Miss Oliver no

I I toured it so I I do know how bad the windows were like the shape that they were in so and they had talked about the types that they were going to use so I I have no issues with it Bentley I don't have any questions I don't have any questions at this time nope all set this might be moved but none of the wind is a salvo tool none of those windows

there may be a few there's actually one I want to leave that's it's protected it's on the back side like it's actually off of a porch and it's it's in really great shape so I'm just called to leave that one um all of them suffer from dry rotting but the higher you go the worse they get I think due to exposure but um the main Central window and the stairwell is quite unique

there's only one of them a call to reglaze it um so the idea of what that would be to keep it if we can and then put a a glass panel like a storm because it's not operable as outside of that just to protect it all the other windows have um storms on them um so of a tight or their weather that really need to be replaced same with the doors

and we broke out all the shutters there were wood shutters on every one of the upper windows and found them in the basement actually some examples of them so we call that out as an alternate to see if we could replace those and use the the original one as a template or a model so that's part of the project too too right now they're vinyl and they're literally screwed to the masonry by the

air which is not but they were heavy they were operable on the pencils and they definitely have a would give it a completely different look we would oh yeah yeah be nice there's the intent to do it it's just cost to do it so the only other thing that's a little odd or difficult is the basement level the lowest level which is Stone there's a steel lintel across the head of the

window and those have really they're starting to delaminate or separate so to replace the window the window is not difficult if they get in and put a new seal of lentil in is really what you need to do and matching that brickwork and that tuck pointing work besides just replacing the window sash it's probably almost as expensive to redo the window fix it and glass than it is to probably get a new one I mean a

difference and I think the path of least resistance on a number of like for uh I.T and uh some Wi-Fi was that go through the window and then just blank off the window so the pieces that are used in that way they're on the back side of the building now this will probably keep them that way but we'd love to do an insulated panel that's aluminum skin so that it's actually more weatherproof more weather tight

but not interrupt the infrastructure that's already in place because it's that would be tough idea is to make it more weatherproof but weather tight yeah and and hopefully not undergo anymore like generation so any further questions or no I'm I'm done all right guys thank you very much thank you thank you

on the next I like to take out a water uh to pump academica up if I could have a motion to do that how many commotion that we take uh I give them out of order a second I'll second uh roll call vote uh resolver yes Bentley yes Caroline oven yes Alex yes John Frank yes Richard Caldwell yes Victor Paris Yes Rick Mancini yes uh with this project being our first uh not

our first housing project but our first one moving forward I asked Mike Dion if you can come up and he looked a project over to check the feasibility all this kind of stuff out for us because housing is what he does so he's gonna answer some questions give us a little feedback like

good evening for the record uh Michael Dion director of the Community Development Agency for the city of Fall River um

uh Mike you want to start off well um as you were well aware of the Community Development agency is in the business of creating affordable housing in the city of Fall River we have done numerous uh buildings in the city that are of historic nature working on current and Lofts the fall of a knitting Mills we just finished 64 Durfee Street and um working with the preservation Society on a small job on June Street

the owners of the building came in to the Community Development agency I think as a response to maybe a meeting that they've had with you in the past requesting um for them to look at additional funding sources I've looked at the pre the project the blueprints it's it's basically a smaller project than what we're used to doing we've publicly did a commitment to them on provide the commitment letter for

their financing to commit about four hundred thousand dollars to the project uh the project um would be I believe 12 units of which two of those units would be affordable um if the owners of the property would like to increase that we do go up to 11 units but um we like to stay around 10 percent of the total units in a project uh so um two two units is is acceptable to us at the time

um they have a pre-commitment letter of about 30 some items that they have to uh get to us and abide to us within the next um six to nine months whenever the development is going to be happening uh one of the commitments is um to provide us with a total sources and uses budget with a pro forma going out 15 years um and one of the things that Community Development does not do is we do not

support projects that do not have all of their funding sources available um they need to have all of their sources committed at the time of closing so I just want the board to be aware that um we have committed to the project CDA they do have other boxes that they have to check off to get that final commitment we will at that time put a affordable housing restriction on the property which means that those two

units will be rent restricted to a certain rent level that is that is determined by Hud and they will also only be able to rent those units to a certain income level those rents and incomes are just on a yearly basis and the income limits are only subject to when you first move into the property so if you do increase your earning potential in the future you do not have

to move out of the property it's only at the time of application that you need to be um income eligible so I think it's a good project um I think that the owners have some work in terms of getting all of their funding sources together and that's why I think he's here tonight with you um but I know that CDA is is 100 behind the project for those two units of affordability

so if you do have any questions if I can answer them um I'll try to okay go ahead I was going to go around the block button no anyone uh Christine um yeah so so it says um the category so it's it's applying under two categories historic preservation and community housing is that is that correct or are we just is this just under community housing no it's both community housing and preservation

books okay so for to start preservation again so number five on the application Community City endorsement it does say under be in in bold if a border commission that the project falls under does not support or provide a letter of support for the project it will not be considered for funding so um again if this is under the historic preservation category there is no letter of support from the historical

commission and I do believe that when the applications all came before us we did say that they would need anything under that category would need a letter of support from the historical commission so is there one that just for some reason is not in the packet know we don't have the letter as of right now but we can pursue that and the funds we're asking is for the elevator we're not preserving anything it's all

reconstruction yes not historic that's difficult well that's what I'm saying that's why it's checked off for two categories so I'm just trying to determine which one it actually is is supposedly for for the housing yeah okay Bentley any questions I don't have any questions at this time I don't have any questions no questions thank you Richard yes this is Sanders and I'm not sure

which one you can answer the question so out of the 12 units you guys said only two units will be affordable can you explain correct that it's 11 units oh 11 units yes okay so 11 minutes will be affordable for 11 minutes so why just two how do you get to that ratio I'm just trying to get an understanding it was like 10 like you know what they wanted to be and we also have like you

know other affordable Market uh other market rate you know together the feasibility you know after investing like three four million dollars yeah I know I mean the market is pretty high right now right it's not even just the high part of it like you know we have to also you know look for the investors like you know interest too because we're not against making more but you know right now

yeah we um at CDA uh have kind of held fast to that rule of 10 in a project um we we very rarely go above that um it's basically the the percentage that the chapter 40b low-income housing for the state is re is requesting each Community to be at um we do exceed it sometimes um but in this case we we use the 10 as a uh um as kind of a projection

um it's gonna all really deal with how he does his Capital stack and how he does his sources and uses he might have to come back um and request maybe one additional unit um that's up to him and and how he how he works the numbers yeah um but it really comes down to the numbers our assistance is um at a interest rate of one percent um also to let the board know we will do

um compliance with uh um historic preservation we will take that uh set of specs we will send it up to the mass historic commission we will let them know what's happening with the building to make sure that there's no detriments to the historical features of the building um we do all that in in what we call an environmental review we haven't started that yet we won't do the environmental

review until we get uh more of a commitment in terms of documentation from the owner okay so pursuing the 40b the the highest percent is a 10 yeah it's 10 and that's we're late to stay but like 64 Duffy Street we did 11 units out of 55 so we did closer to 20 but that was targeted to practice and artists so I wouldn't want to do 11 units in an 11 unit building no no again

I was trying to get some clarity I didn't know the rules and regulations to get an understanding of it so thank you for the clarity okay no questions at this time so you you you'll be overseeing the historic part of the outside because they have to the historic building yeah what will happen is this will require them um they'll determine what type of Windows what type of doors they're going to put in

um we will send that documentation Up To Boston sometimes Boston doesn't allow a vinyl window sometimes they would allow a vinyl window we don't want to see the building in terms of Community Development we don't want to see the building changed in any manner on the outside of the building um we will have a series of inspections on the building we will require his architect to provide um

plans to us we will give those plans out to several contractors for them to bid on the job there'll be an open process bidding if he wants our money and we will go through with an inspection process throughout the entire construction period to make sure that stuff is being that the work is being done in compliance with the um regulations and also in compliance with mass building code we probably will have

our probably 95 show that we'll have our architect that is contracted with Community Development which is stock Architects which will provide us uh Direction on this whole project in term and also with his own Architects so we'll make sure that everything is done correctly and and right to the specifications thanks for questions uh correct preservation restrictions placed on that when you go through the funding

on the historic side no not on the community development side the community development side will only have a affordable housing restriction on it that's up to you guys yes and I mean we can do we can do if you want it's up to the board but we could uh make your restriction part of our restriction we could do it at the same time as the closing if it's up to it's up to the board

what makes it fairly easy yeah okay to make it easier all right you get to that point all right okay thanks thanks Mike thanks for coming down all right next on the list is maritime museum is uh avac construction documents uh Water Street they're looking for 91 000.

thank you all right uh Megan Rathbun Executive Director of Battleship Cove I'm Rodney Jox with uh Stark architects go ahead and tell us about here um so the maritime museum at uh in Fall River has occupied since the late 1960s the former machine and carpentry shop of the American printing companies Mill complex um it is an historic building and we are seeking funding to continue an upgrade

process that was started several years ago mainly to upgrade the electrical now the HVAC the building does not have a functioning HVAC system which is a dual problem in that we have a large number of historic artifacts from our Not Just Fall River but the greater South Coast Area and also the building itself suffers from the temperature changes as a result of not having air conditioning in the summer

so we are looking for funding to do the engineering drawings to be able to go to a bid process to actually have that HVAC system put in it's a complex process and we've been working with Stark Architects on the previous phases and there very familiar with all the work that's been done because they've been the ones doing it uh the last project you uh put in I don't know if you finished that yet no

but we just got worked two weeks ago that the final electrical panel piece that was missing that has been on back order finally came in um which I'm very excited about so that our engineer is on our sorry our electrician is on vacation and he should be back in two or three weeks and when he's back that's gonna be finished I'm very excited and the elevator is um so we're not using right now because

we're not going upstairs because I'm limiting the occupancy upstairs just at the moment until we finish all of the elections but that's finished that project that project is finished okay um so this is just for a study to see what uh you need so this is to do the electrical drawings rather than the study here okay and I'll hand it over to Rodney who knows the technical side of that a lot more than I

do go ahead yeah so it's it's not for a study it's to do the actual construction documents for the new mechanic the new mechanical system that's required um you know so the construction documents and the specifications will be prepared uh in accordance with you know state rules and regulations and they'll be um in the manner such that they'll be they'll be ready for public bid for contractors to bid on all right man

which by the way we just it's still under construction but I mean we've been through this process in the last year at 45 Rock Street actually with Mr Dion's office we um we we redid the HVAC HVAC system there that is a very similar project okay I know there's a lot of nice documents down there you want to take care there's a lot of amazing historic documents artifacts it's got uh I believe the third largest Library

Maritime library on the East Coast on the second floor um it's it's amazing what we have there and so making sure we keep it um for the next you know 100 150 years that those artifacts are there for everyone not just in Fall River the greater South Coast or anyone who visits to be able to see is incredibly important to me have you looked anywhere else for additional funding uh yes so once we do the

drawings what I'm planning to look at is um the I just forgot the name it completely went out of my my mind the Federal I just had it up on my phone there's a there's a federal act that just came out of the inflation production thank you let me bring one up um has a lot of money um in the federal budget specifically for actually museums to look at bringing their energy systems

um up into more efficient looking at say solar or you know for us you know anything is going to be more efficient than we have right now in the building um and then there's also some State funding that would become available once we have the drawings so drawings you need before any other funding yeah and so we don't know we won't know until we get the drawings and are able to do the

bids what the actual system itself will cost okay uh let's all over any questions nope no questions Miss Bentley no questions at this time okay I have no questions um just so when did you think the electrical panel will be finished you said was it I hope so as soon as our electrician comes back from vacation that get done um so yeah that final part was just I hate the supply chain issues but

we've been such a victim of it it's impacted several of our other projects as well so it's been an adventure yeah I've been down there and I've seen the pause progress for a while so I remember hearing your struggle and looking forward to it getting uh finished I've heard similar issues as well so yeah it's impacted even we just put up I'm sure everyone has seen it if you drive by Battleship Cove that great big green

tent thing it's a hanger actually for a helicopters just getting that took so long because we just kept getting held up and held up and held up that that project I think is almost a year behind just because we got stuck in supply chain issues no questions yeah I have a couple of questions um so Stark Architects is going to be the designers so I guess this is a multi-year private previously before

until I came on the board um so you guys had signed an agreement like a contract to do all these different phases we've taken it face by face so you guys just automatically just hire Stark Architects uh we haven't hired them yet depending on funding but they've been working previously we reached out to several other Architects to try and get bids we only got one back that was willing to

even do the bid it's in the packet but they came in and only wanted a big for bid for like this super big project that we weren't ready to fund and go for all of that yet and their pricing is actually a little bit higher than Starks would be if you look at it and they don't have the benefit of having worked on this in the past so okay so basically this will be

um if approved and obviously stock I could touch would be the ones that'll do the design once the design is set and complete there'll be an estimated forecast amount that being said then obviously you probably I'm not sure whether the rest of the funding for construction will be do you guys know where that's coming from so that's where we'd be looking into the federal and the state funding and then we would put it

out to a bid process for that because this would be a higher amount So within our internal controls we would do bid process for this so it'll be a public bid process so this will be a chapter 149 yeah process and you know it's my understanding and I'll admit I do get a bit confused when it comes to money from the CPC we've done all the projects before but it's my understanding that projects

that are funded with CPC money are required to be publicly bid well I mean none of we do private and public so uh private no uh if you go through the city it has to be bid yeah so any public agency like you're private right yeah so yeah so you don't but we go out to bid for big big projects because that makes sense yeah you definitely want to have so again and I again I

apologize I might be taking a right turn here with the conversation so we would still need to bid the project to a number of contractors however we would not have to follow chapter 149 bidding process correct okay so that means no prevailing wage will be paid okay okay so that's just saving a ton yeah as mentioned yeah because they always get a little confused right because there's a pro it's not just publicly bid

I mean there's certain other requirements as well to depend upon a threshold like you know you know as a decam certification where that that triples the amount of what the construction project is going to be you know they're going to require OSHA 10 you know non-collusion tax compliance the list goes on um it's private yep you know it should be way way under what a public project will be so thank you

for the clarification now I don't appreciate it thank you for clarifying that to me that's all I got nothing right now yeah uh the the documentation is listed on the historic preservation so it would behoove you to stop by the historical condition at the next meeting and get yourself a letter yes we're going to that we realized that we had the wrong contact information so that was on me so that will be

something that I will address this week this week I know we have one on file for it's always nice to have in the packet anything else Rick no I'm all set thank you all right no more questions uh thank you thank you thank you thank you next okay uh so I'm on the board of directors and preservation site Barbara Senator excuse myself for this next lunch ready so I'm just going to take the meeting minutes um

a minute for it we'll figure it out can you take notes even though he's accusing himself yeah yeah Sandy could you just take notes for this one thanks my name is Jim Soul I'm the president of the preservation Society of Fall River I reside at 577 Rock Street in Fall River all right in case you guys don't know uh Dr fiskhouse has been before us a few times and uh does this finish the project up

on the outside yeah okay um I don't know if you saw the building before it got started but now it's spectacular so um I don't have any questions I'll just uh if you want to Briefly summarize not to waste too much time but with this uh this is the last part of the project that we're coming to CPA for because we're trying to respect the uh the philosophy of doing using CPA funds

for work that are on uh viewable through public views so some of the back windows of the house we've taken that upon ourselves so we did the front facade uh last year thank you in this last round for uh wind is Windows storms and shutters on the east and west facade sort of the side facades of the building but within View and then of course the windows are being restored um all of them

uh I think only two of our Windows had to actually be completely rebuilt out of um almost 80 windows and then by having uh we noticed historically accurate storms so we have most of the storms are historically accurate as far as like looking exactly like the originals there are several places we are gonna not gonna use that type of storms but they're going to be recessed windows that match the windows so they go with

the house you know I know Rick knows what I'm talking about because some of the windows they're not exactly symmetrical so if you put a standard storm on them it doesn't work but the uh the windows that we're going to use the uh newer storms will match the windows okay yeah that's good it's literally recessed in the low profile yeah um I'm gonna well I'm gonna preamp uh it's all very at the last 11th

hour I got a letter from the historic Commission well I wasn't I I figured that I I wasn't even going to ask because I know that in this project as well as the one uh prior the the Marine Museum had come before us and they I know they had letters of support it's just a continuing project so um no I just I just had a comment um I I think that it is a it's an

absolutely wonderful project everything that you've done with this house is amazing and I think that anybody that's looking for an example of a really well done uh historic project could could definitely uh take notes from the Fisk house in the way that it's done and also just the the other things that you're doing with other properties in the community um I think are wonderful so I just want

to say thank you thank you thank you Kristen is Bentley any questions I have no questions at this time I have no questions I just want to say I'm very excited to see this when you did on June you don't even know which son of our money it was did a fantastic job only uh the housing side of it how is that going with the rentals everything pretty good uh tenant-wise everything I mean on Dr

Festus yeah yeah I mean well as you know we have the same issue as a reality landlord I mean we have zero occupancy zero Vegas uh we're good tenants we have issues once in a while but really we've been very fortunate yeah I think people appreciate what we're doing on the home and uh and so most of them really seem to respect that yeah and uh it's given us the opportunities to improve the house

but to have an impact on the neighborhood I was gonna say that it Sparks the neighborhood up to you know the new house being built uh and what you're doing the project two behind that uh characters yeah so I'm thinking that's all I have Richard um just a couple of questions um so is and forgive me I mean I know this this has been an ongoing project prior to my arrival here on the board

um just trying to get understanding though so is this going to be like an affordable housing this is a historic president okay but we happen to use the house for uh apartment rentals upstairs and there's a plan for an underground railroad exhibit in the basement that's where Dr fists uh uh Medical Practice was homeopathic uh practice was in the 1840s and 50s when he was a known abolitionist

so the public will be able to it's the public accessibility is mostly from what they see from the outside but the exhibit when we get to it will allow public access to the basement in this I guess this is the Final Phase I mean will you be soliciting quotes from like different contractors the window projects honestly they're so difficult uh I always had to bring Ken pachico back to

devotionally I think sometimes some of the other projects literally go right to replacing Windows not really because the windows are Beyond repair it's because they don't know how to find contractors so we have this one contract that was worked on half dozen products in the city he's phenomenal as he's done about 20 of our other windows and we go to them we feel like his price is very comparable from what we've heard

in the past his work is great so for when it comes to Windows we just can't find other contractors willing to do repair work and restoration work if it was to replace windows it would be a piece of cake getting a dozen uh estimates okay I apologize for that because I know that the best thing is to have them more than one contractor but uh estimate but it's literally impossible for this particular type

okay well how do you solicit like when you're looking for this type of work is it do you just like do Google do you what like how do you go about trying to find Google and Word of Mouth we communicate uh handily with whale in a Bedford and the Providence preservation society and um important so we usually use other like organizations asthma oh okay this state websites that you probably

look up down I mean just for all knowledge base like comb eyes where you can find all kinds of contractors pretty much everyone in the state yeah head out there might be a pool of other contractors not just besides in our own County that you know because we we know we have a lot of contractors obviously that come into the county from like Rhode Island and stuff like that so oh it uh I agree

I think that's a really good point there should be everyone should take note of I will tell you in fact uh whenever possible I use a contractor within the city or within the county our contract have to come from Rhode Island because we couldn't get someone local yeah I understand local sometimes not cheap no no it wasn't even a price Factor it was literally that we couldn't get someone to come

thank you so much of course okay okay I just want to congratulate you on a job well done thank you and thank you Rick just a big thank you for restoring the original windows placing a window with vinyl or vinyl wooden windows they're they're not going to last 100 years we've got windows at 100 years old and we're storing them 190 190 years old 190 years old you're restoring them to back to their original

you'll get another 100 190 years out of them and vinyl replacement just can't do that and you keep the Integrity of the building so thanks for doing that you're going out of your way I'm very familiar with what you're doing so but thank you for doing it thanks Richard now is your window guy the same as uh Lafayette House yes we stole him from Dave Jennings anybody out there looking there

look at the Lafayette House and we've talked to Prince house did a fantastic job on them uh any other further questions okay one uh the last process you approved first was the roof and it came out fantastic if the work is done thank you good thank you thank you alrighty next is the Saint John the Baptist Ukrainian Catholic Church they're doing doors windows stairs Foundation railing steeple stained glass ramp

bathroom ceiling and electrical projects of Center City Center Street hi my name is slovicky I'm the trustee at St John the Baptist Ukrainian Catholic Church I live at 35 Hathaway Drive in Portsmouth Rhode Island the project is um where the church's uh uh built in 1914 and we we are looking to do some historic preservation on it at this point it's it's um uh where we're looking to do um

painting of the wooden trim out the building and also to um uh computer we do some work on the brickwork itself on on the building on on the front steps so it's really uh kind of a maintenance maintenance and I really really feel it's going to be a preservation of the building so that it doesn't it stays looking good and I think preserving a building especially as this building is going to be important for

the city I think it's it's kind of a unique building from the from the point of view of its architecture especially with the pear-shaped Dome on top which is typical of of um of of Byzantine architecture which which our churches falls under as far as as the as the part of the Catholic Church and I think uh preservation like that allows us to to in a future think about doing some kind of programs with with

the community with with architecture students or with Community talk about our particular building about how it's built about how that particular kind of pear-shaped Dome is made and also opens up uh you know a a building that looks good is inviting for people either whether they walk by and look at it or whether they come in and and um be be part of our of our community it's it's really uh kind of works both ways

for that um I have a whole uh program but if you want we can I'll just leave it open for questions if you want um initially this is what the church looks like from the outside you know like I said we the the church started was built in 1914 but it was actually the Ukrainian Community rise in Fall River much earlier than earlier than that and they worked in the on the

Mills and the factories and talking with a lot of the people that I knew from the parish when I joined who were already seniors like myself now um they that was what they call that they came they came from Ukraine seeking a kind of a good business opportunity on a better uh way of life um and so the the church was a a community center for them and then that's when they you know they came

there's nothing here like that and when they came they said well we have to organize something and that was one way of doing it um uh the the building as you can see is topped with a pear-shaped dome which is kind of unique a unique architectural feature of of uh of the Eastern right uh Church buildings uh so if you're ever traveling around anywhere and you happen to see a building with this kind of a

dome on it you can be pretty sure of of uh what kind of what kind of building and what what you're going to see there um the inside the interior of the church is also reflects the Eastern the Byzantine Eastern right tradition uh on here you can see an iconostas which is an ornate screen with set with three doors in it and it's it's also has um icons representing different Saints

this is a sort of a more a close-up again uh showing a little a little more detail of what the what the interior looks like I mean we we've uh applied for for the grant we've gotten um a letter of eligibility from the community preservation committee and we've also got received letters of support from the Fall River historical commission and from a number of uh our state senators and representatives

including our representative Allen Sylvia who is our our representative as well as Bishop kuna was from the Fall River diocese and Bishop Paul was our Bishop in in Stanford um here's a letter letter of Eligibility of the Fall River historical commission says the notes that we are a landmark of the globe Corner neighborhood and Fall River and grant funding will be used to restore and replace repair elements of

this historic building and the restoration will keep the insurance that will keep the structure protected and preserved um representative Fiola said it says it's a significant structure in the city of Fall River and brings unique style of Ukrainian churches to the city and I'll point out I think we say it later but point out this is really a unique structure not only for Fall River but it

seems apparently a peace seems to be the only public structure in South Coastal New England so it's kind of a unique uh a unique gem that Fall River can claim as its own uh Senator Rodriguez also talks about the the architecture of the church as well as the the fact that it's been a a community center for for the Ukrainian community in Fall River and also really in in the surrounding areas the steel

move moved out of the city they still came to be part of the community uh representative Sylvia I think it was kind of surprising but he was very specific about saying just how much money he needed to to to repair the building and we're uh we're talking about again for the brick stairs and for the painting there there's the exterior trim and uh what what the what the the work will do we'll sort of keep the

building preserved and prevent any any any deterioration from taking place um Bishop Puna again just remarked about the the the that that what what kind of uh the impact that the church has on on the uh on the the community and also that it it meets the goals of the community preservation Act and uh Bishop Paul um again just reiterated what what that the church is part of is is a big

supporter of of the uh of the of the community both Ukrainian and also as the as through that it also uh spreads to the city of Fall River now the summary of masonry you want to repoint or receipt the brickwork on the front steps repair the repoint the foundation as needed it looks like there's some cracks in it which I think is just cement and maybe have fallen out some more fallen out and

secure the hand railings on the front steps uh the paint we're looking to paint them caulk all the doors in the stained glass windows and the ground floor windows and to do all the wood trim around the doors and windows on the exterior and all the wood trim on the exterior I also want to paint the woodwork on the on the cupola and the belt and the bell tower and they also

needs the replacement or repair some missing missing slats that are on the Bell Tower and we are we are going to going to be adhering to the department excuse me the Secretary of interior standards for rehabilitation we're not making any changes to the structure or any existing paint schemes and colors um some details the front about the front work this this is what the front looks like

you can see it's already been repointed at some at some points but is um it's it's actually getting with time it's getting worse think through you know rain and water coming into the bill into into the in among the bricks and expanding some of the joints this is an example you can see in the front steps some of the bricks where brickwork is coming loose we've got a little bit of

weed weeds growing in in some of the other cement work so this has to get replaced or are repaired um and we want to make the building look good and look good it looks good means that it's inviting for the for the public to see and also uh is uh a source of Community Pride you know and a nice looking building is actually something that uh both the the we're

proud of that as a as a community that the neighborhood is proud of it and that the city is proud of it uh painting we need to paint the wood trim on the doors and windows there the wood itself is in good condition but it just needs a very very good paint job uh you can see in some of this this is the front side of the building you can see

some of the paint peeling even though this is a small photograph you're going to see how badly the paint is peeling on there so that has to be replaced with trim on the stained glass windows has to get replaced has to be repainted and also there's some puttying to be to be done and these are just general views of the building all around this is the East Side the Sacramento the entrance

Door against stainless Windows there the rear of the church Southeast corner these are the lower the windows and lower part of the hall where the hole of the basement is again there would trim and the as you can see all this like on this one some of the paint has come off these windows are have a wire mesh screen so those are going to be taken off everything's going to be repainted and

the screen is going to be put put back on and we're going to match as closely as possible to match the existing colors so they're going to be kind of a it's kind of like a dark red brown color this is the couple again you can see you can see on here that some of the slats are missing and so this is going to be repainted again to match the existing colors

uh Southeast this the southeast Corner South excuse me the southwest corner this is on South Beach Street side of the building and this is the west side which is the faces of South Beach Street and Center Street is on the left side again repainting the the lower the windows on on the lowest part of the church and also repainting the repainting that they um the wooden trim on a stained glass

windows in the upper part of the church the windows themselves are covered with Plexiglas so we're not going to remove that and we're just going to cover this but there is some exposed wooden trim around that so I want to paint that apart now the the plexiglass was put on some years back when we had problems with it with Windows getting broken either by stones or by BB guns and so at

that point they the power stick the action of putting plexiglass on those on that side of the building um we've gone out and uh asked for quotes uh we've asked for the masonry we've asked five different contractors to uh come up with coats we've received one one quote from the Kenneth Pacheco General carpentry and demelica construction came out and we're waiting to get a quote from them we did not

reach the other companies that we asked for did not respond um similarly we asked for quotes for painting several companies responded and one company Sullivan painting they gave a quote just for the building because they don't have the the capacity to do a tower so they would they would subcontract their the work out for a tower so that would raise their their quote if they did that again um

basically we were there we uh with the companies that we asked for um the bottom line here tells you I asked them well why didn't they respond and so they said either they're too busy nobody wants to work after the covet pandemic or they have too few employees so it's kind of a a business an environment that's that's making it harder for us to get quotes we're trying to to stay with with businesses that are

in Fall River um I think it's it's good for the for the for the for the city to have the businesses here doing the work on something that's in the city and so we're trying to stay with that um as far as the the uh the project cost comes out to 58 000 um it it adds up um if you look at the two quotes that we do have let's say we're saying roughly 22

22 000 for the brickwork and um roughly 26 000 for painting and then we're adding uh a 20 contingency fee on top of that because we're talking about uh getting a quote these quotes are coming in like November December of 20 of 2022 and you know if if the grants are approved the work will probably start in August or September of this year or maybe even later so we're so we're we're adding a 20 contingency

and that comes out to almost 50 it comes out like 57 000 and change so we're saying 58 000 uh as a number um we have gone into doing some fundraising we've applied we saw other than applying for the grant we've also applied for a community support grants from local institutions uh actually three of them and we're doing uh announcements in the media far we're going to be meeting with the Fall River Herald news

we did A short segment with the Fall River Community media cable and we're going to contact the local NPR stations we did set up a GoFundMe page it's called Ukrainian historic church preservation Fall River and there's the link to it and we're going to be sending out we've we set that up and we've gotten some uh a few small donations we're still trying to iron out all the details with GoFundMe as far as how to

set things up and and making sure that they're they're working with us and once that that happens which I think is going to be within the next couple of weeks we're going to send out uh and GoFundMe invites to the church mailing lists and also the through follow-ups and social media we have already done a number of capital projects in the within the last couple of years in October of 2020 we've

replaced the church roof as a chronic cost of almost 13 almost 13 and a half thousand dollars and we've done a number of other smaller projects over the past year so I think over the last I was saying the last two years we've since we've spent a little over 16 000 of our own money on doing on doing Capital Improvements um and where the churches committed to to the Future we're not we're not just um

here over here over here and here and we're we're planning to be here um as well as I guess what I'm trying to say so the question is why should we get a grant well if one the the church is a significant structure um it was listed in 2016 by the Fall River historical commission and if that the the entry there cites it's the it's the wooden the wooden Byzantine cross

and and the pear-shaped Dome and also that it's it's a it exemplifies the cultural political economic social and historical Heritage of the community which we've been doing um and the benefits of the project are really uh mainly a well-maintained uh building shows the pride of the an investment that residents have in their in their Community uh conserving the building will exemplify the continued

commitment of the Ukrainian Community has the Fall River and the other then it's not just the the Ukrainian Community that's going to benefit but really it goes out to the whole the whole city south end gets a community Outreach Center the globe Corners neighborhood looks better if you know uh near where we are located used to be all Max and then you see something else and now it's it's a it's a a big chocolate

and ice cream a place which I try to go to every so often um and also uh the other thing that you know with part of this uh um Improvement that we're having is is it opens up us it opens us up for for doing programs with with students info River we're talking about like Phyllis with great schools talking about Saint Nicholas and Santa Claus and who the what the differences are and also I

think the architecture allows us to to involve schools like like diamond or Bristol Community College and talk about the the different architecture that that this building has as opposed to other uh let's say you know the churches of other buildings in in the city and I think the with the uniqueness and it allows students to explore this without having to travel to other cities or other countries let's say

do that and also we're we're trying to you know we're contributing to fulfilling the the city of Philadelphia River Master Plan the neighborhood neighborhood stabilization City character and identity and historic and cultural resources and this is just the uh back in May of uh 2002 we were the focal destination of the Interfaith solidarity walk for Ukraine there were a number of speakers

for the Ukrainian community and they spoke from the front steps of the church that was on YouTube there's a YouTube video about that um this is the bishop kuna and father Michael actually is here uh meeting during the the Interfaith solidarity walk for Ukraine and we um received the proclamation one from the Commonwealth uh from the the Senate and one from the city of Fall River uh which uh made uh named May 1st

of the 2012 2022 as support of Ukraine day and this is just one of the photos from the from the uh that solidarity walk because it's very uh it was very young uh I think a a very important uh act for the for the for Fall River to do I think it's in support of Ukraine I think that's something that um as as that the war there I'll still say plainly goes on it's it's important

to do to support that and we in in the in the church are working with with some refugees on on a one-on-one basis helping them out as well as well so um so that's kind of uh what the project is and what the church is I don't know uh I I wanted to kind of present that because I'm not sure if everybody knows where it is it's kind of you know out of

the way corner of the city uh um so uh sort of give you a little more idea of what is what it looks like oh if you have any uh any questions please oh nice presentation thank you the only question I have for you is I see uh you've got two bids I mean a bit on the painting uh complete work by the spring of 2023. you know you can't start work until

fun to come in right right yes all righty um any questions um no no questions just a comment um I think that this application is a wonderful really well put together application and everything is in there it was really well done so I just want to say you did a really great job on your application I love to see them looking like this okay thank you Bentley um I just want to Second what Kristen

just said that this is a very thorough application it makes it very easy to read um it's everything that you need to know is right here so thank you for that thank you I I didn't do it all by myself I had help from a lot of people so I want to thank them as well yeah good job Carolyn hi I don't have any questions hi um I just wanted to say thank you for

taking our initial feedback and breaking out the parts of your initial scope that wouldn't have uh Fallen under historic preservation right um I thought the three-phase approach is a lot more kind of to the point for the grant um and then I just wanted to make sure you were aware that with this grant would come preservation deed restriction that the Church would be okay with that too yep yes thank you

so I wish I was on assume the stock is pretty much some of the stuff that everyone satisfied you know I'm piggy packing off I wanted to commend you because you took first time you came in a recommendation and I said you know you asking for funding we're trying to figure out you know where you guys did the numbers from and this is a very well put together packet not only did you

provide quotes and contractors you also provided um you know some additional funding that that you have received on your own considering it's it's as private so you know very very well put together it's self-explanatory and you've you've done your due diligence from the recommendations when you first came to this report so thank good job thank you you're welcome I don't have any questions right now

yeah the only thing I I here we got the first to second the third I don't want to be a fourth I will but yeah what's really good about a presentation that you've put together is the general public that's viewing this is able to understand what's being done on your project but also how their monies are being spent the CPA funding is being spent in a truly good and strong faction

and a good presentation like that allows the general public when they're viewing this session to view that and appreciate it so thank you for that thank you just last thing I mean just just even having to I'm going to say the PowerPoint it's it's it's huge I think for the public because a lot of folks come and you know in front of us and we just have to pack it here but I think

when a public kind of sees just kind of like the story behind the reason why you're here it says speaks volume so they're very good thank you thank you yeah

thank you very much for for having us here thank you thank you thank you

thank you all right next up is the watuppa Rowing Club Doc's Lane Marketing System at Jefferson Street 250 000.

good evening yes Paul Clute here 46 Stanford Street Fall River tell us a little about sure so um I do have some quote information which I did not have in the original application which you had asked me to provide should I give that to you now yourself but you also make sure you email it to us so Sandy uh Dennis to get a copy of course yes yes definitely

so uh for those of you who aren't aware of who the uh what type of rowing Center is we're a non-profit organization we operate out of uh a building that is uh owned by the city that we uh lease from the water department and uh our main goal is to provide access to um students use ranging from middle school up and through high school to teach them how to learn how to race

and row how to race competitively and hopefully to help them gain better options for um you know post secondary school and what we're trying to accomplish here with this request from you folks is a lane what's called a lane marking system I know this sport isn't as well known as a lot of the others out there but I think everybody especially in this area knows who the head of the Charles is or

I've seen pictures of the head of the Charles and what we're looking to do was to try to have a a lane marking system as well as the proper docking as well as there's a lot of different facets that come along with it such as timing huts and things like that that allow a race to take place otherwise known as a Regatta these regattas are typically done in the spring and in the fall thus

head of the Charles which is always in the fall and what we're asking for is help for funding for this Lane Marketing System and the docks as well in order to not only give the kids the opportunity to race because right now they're racing on the pond or they're trying to race on the pond ultimately they're not necessarily going on a straight line so this is a great learning tool but also

what we're trying to do is to get some schools down here to come down and race competitively which helps funding for us because the program as of right now and our hope is to continue doing that is a hundred percent free so so kids can come down and row learn from professional coaches on the watuppa three four times a week and the goal is right now we have a a surveyor is coming out in the next

couple weeks to survey the pond in the areas to where a course can go what we're looking to do is is not permanently but to drop a one-line course uh for the end of I guess it's still February but the end of March and then next month uh to have brown and bu uh come down for a race a lot of these schools don't really have an option to race racing on the Charles

if you've ever seen it it's kind of like a serpentine uh it's not exactly a straight line and a lot of these schools also are coming down to um you know tidal water they're coming down to Seekonk River and they have they don't have the availability for a nice site to come down unload their boats prepare for a race and actually go out and have a straight line well in Spectators in the

south watapa is something that a lot of people may not realize but offers such a unique opportunity for these schools to be able to come down and utilize our facility so um at this point in times I I've given you besides the application but um I'd given you some quotes in regards to some of the institutions that we work with that our coaches uh work with and also one of our board members uh Tom

darling's uh silver medalist and is have some great connections for us uh with some of the institutions that are giving us quotes um the survey at this point in time uh it's as a couple of other folks have mentioned here it's difficult sometimes to get quotes people are a little too busy don't have the Staffing to do it we're paying for the survey out of our own pocket right now to be able to at

least get that part done and this survey we'll put certain markings on on either side on Shore so we can utilize them in the future uh I like the idea you said being kids for free three days a week yeah so uh during the winter months uh because we do this past year we put in heat and AC so I don't know if any of you are familiar with this building uh down on Jefferson

Street before Atlantis Charter School the building is um about 120 feet long and the bulk of it is a on air you know not temperature controlled so it's where we store all of our boats so in the spring summer and fall we utilize that space But in the winter it's protect you from the wind but other than that it's pretty darn cold in The Boathouse but we do have a part that

used to be a commercial kitchen which we've converted into an ERG room which are the row machines that we see at the gym as well as a workout room so that has heat and AC um and right now they are Tuesday Thursday and Saturday morning into the summer that number expands greatly but as of right now the winter program is three days a week and again 100 free now are you a membership uh one of the

numbers that so so the membership side of things um are more for what we call our master's program which is adult growing if you will so any of you can sign up to be a member of the uh club and we just started that this past spring those numbers are about we have about 20 paying adults we have about 20 students right now for winter which is about 130 increase from

last year when we had because that was our first winter with uh with the heat and those numbers continue to climb this past year we started what's called stem to stern it's a national program and stennis Stern has gotten us into the middle school if any of you know anything about sports when you get to high school a lot of people have already made the decision as to what they're doing I'm already playing baseball I'm

already playing basketball so by the time we try to get them introduced to the sport they kind of well I've already got something going on so part of the thought process if we can get into the middle schools and give them that opportunity and the stem to stern program really helps us do that we had well over I don't know 100 and some odd kids come through that program over the

course of the summer and again the benefit is costs nothing so it doesn't matter you don't fill out an application I don't care where you come from and what your background is how many clubs are like doing what we're doing in this area right now most of the clubs are private you're paying for membership so whether you're an adult or you're a kid you're paying for it there was a program in um

in New Bedford a Rowing Club but that club as of right now has not come back from covet if you will um but there's right now we're we're pretty darn unique so like the colleges they go to the Charles River I guess too they do or they've got to find other outlets and and the issue is is space afforded you know in being able to access the pond you know so right now you know schools

don't really they don't have access to it it's hard to to find that space our goal is to have in these regattas bring in quite a bit of money for not only the club to be able to pay for the non-paying Youth but also bringing uh economic activity to the area of Fall River because if again if any of you've been down that air which I have to assume all of you have Southwest upper

right around 95 you've got restaurants you've got hotels you've got you know it's a great venue for people to come down um it was at one point looked at as a um a practice facility for the Olympics at Boston won the bid for the Olympics that this was going to be a spot because there are so few ponds that you can have a 2 000 meter course on that's actually straight right

a lot of ponds have you know certain outlets and things like that and they've got bends in them we're fortunate enough that you can start down towards the end towards the tiv at an end and head back up towards 195 and easily have a 2 000 meter course now I didn't see any support letters no not not at this time so we um I talked to um Mike lavasier from the water department

um and we just have not connected uh due to his schedule my schedule to be able to um you know have him or or Paul Farrell and write something up for us so that's something we'd like to add to it and that uh I didn't see like a a letter from the city of the state that you can use the property do you have that use the property or be able to

install a course be able to install so right so that is so these are um if I didn't say a priority these are temporary so these aren't permanent courses so ultimately we're putting them in the water they float they're buoys and they float and then when we're done with the race we take them back out again so there are certain permanent aspects to them underwater um that that will anchor them down but

otherwise the course themselves that floats on top of the water the buoy markers that you see come out uh would it be possible for you to get a letter from the city or state city oh definitely yep you know yeah yep okay that's all the questions I have uh Miss Olive any questions um no no questions but I just I love this idea I think this is a really great project it would be really amazing to

have something like this in the city thank you just Bentley anything yeah I just I just have one question so the the money that you're requesting is for the lane markers right it's not to support the youth program but it's for the lane markers itself correct correct this has nothing to do with with um our operating budget this is all for the lane marking system um as well as the doc system they have

timing huts and certain equipment that they use to time these races so they're very as much as we see the boat going up and down the the water they have very um intricate systems that time these races so the uh all of it is for the race or a Regatta to actually take place and the regattas could be by anybody not just it could be adults youths any anybody who wants to enter the Regatta

yeah correct depending on the type of regatta that it is there's again much like the head of the Charles everybody thinks of the head of the Charles as being all these you know Collegiate schools but um they have you know Masters rowing programs and youth programs and uh we actually had our um Pat ourselves on the back we had a nice um bid this year we had uh our first

boat uh we had a four that was introduced to the race so we had um five young women from uh three different public schools here at Fall River um enter and compete and race in the head of the Charles this year which is amazing that's it that's it for me thank you well I don't have any questions hi um I just want to say thank you for getting us some quotes

um my question is kind of relating to the course that you handed and I know that our virtual members don't know exactly what I'm talking about um so it looks like this is a quote uh just from one company easy Doc is that right or was there some form so so there are there are a few others but we haven't gotten quotes from them yet easy DOC for us is a system that we've used

before so these docks are what's called a low profile Dock and a low profile dock kind of sound is what it sounds like it sits very low to the water if you've ever seen these boats up close um they are very low so you can't put them next to a traditional Dot and there's only several companies out there who make them one that we have utilized already the board donated enough assets

to purchase uh one for the club itself which is at the uh rowing Center and it's a company that we've used and had great success with there's a couple other companies out there one that is used by the head of the Charles there I would say they're I don't say they're significantly more expensive but they're definitely more and we're trying to get a quote from them but haven't had one

yet okay and so the numbers that you gave us it I'm trying to see what they add up to but this seems like there's a couple different options but generally it seems like it doesn't total 250 000. that's correct right so when we originally put the application in there were a lot of numbers that were thrown around because again I'm sure that you know this is not something that we have

in the area I will uh apologize and say this is new to me I'm going through this application process and But ultimately and again a lot of numbers in here but what it is it gives us the availability to go from a three-way into a six Lane to an eight-lane course ultimately our goal would be is to have a six or an eight Lane course that number you know grows dramatically we don't have any uh

quotes as far as the timing huts and things like that because again not sure where the board would be where the committee would be on what we are able to add on to this because again you can have a race with one line going down the middle Lake you can have one you know with six Lanes you can have one with no docs you can have one with docs it can expand pretty dramatically so our

thought was to put in that ask of 250 000 obviously in the requirements too it also States anything we don't use we have to give back if we are granted anything so the thought process was to ask for amount that would be for lack of a better term buying a limited automobile I'm getting all the bells and whistles um if we're not given that amount or we're given a lesser amount or we have

to fund it all ourselves then we have to kind of start piecemeal does that make sense or answer your question yeah um and I would just add that it would be helpful for us as a committee yeah our deliberations if you could get as many of the other quotes of course just so we have the ballpark sure we've had some past instances this is recently of uh projects coming back to ask for additional funds so um

just trying to get a handle on the actual numbers that would that would be awarded thank you oh I am okay well only quote to 66.9 that's for how many lanes that one uh should be for six so when we come to voting we uh we would look at the two oh that's the docs I'm sorry yeah you're looking at the easy doc okay yep so so right so ultimately these stocks come in sections and you

buy that section and that one is designed for a six-lane course as well as a um almost like a U-shaped dock in the middle which holds What's called the launches and the launches are uh basically a wakeless launch is a coach's boat where the coaches can go along not only to help coach but also for safety purposes in case something happens to one of the boats and the boats either capsize or somebody falls out of one

they're allowed to go alongside and help and Aiden you know for safety purposes so this one is for that six Lane course because like I understand you say 250 but when we go to vote we're going to look at the 250 when we put that in our voted category and that might be above our limit on some things gotcha you might fall lower in the category what tool you think you're gonna need so I

mean ultimately speaking without knowing um so I would probably say that the the that 67 is for the docs themselves and if we look at the the six Lane option uh puts us at 62 so that alone would give us the dock in the course itself so call it 120 000 is the dock and those original Lanes so we'll have to you're more or less looking for like 135. correct okay

because when we go to vote 135 is going to look a lot more appealing to us than the 250. I get you I get you and if the city's out there looking at us they're going like 250 for a rolling Club I mean you know what are you guys doing down there spending taxpayers money so we want to make sure gotcha we spend it the best way so gotcha okay thank you Rick

yeah so um just a couple of things I think um if you can get us Leto supports I would definitely reach out to like our local representatives are you a state Senator Senator rodericks I think that will be helpful uh but I just want to say for the record I think this would be huge for the city I lived in Cambridge um you know I worked actually yeah it was a lifeguard and that's one of the

public pools so I used to always see the races I mean you have MIT Harvard you know bu coming this would be a huge Landmark for the city not just the traditional baseball basketball just another option for our kids to explore which I think will bring in revenues as well to the city bringing you know people pretty much from all across the country from you from all types of universities coming into to Fall River

and again it just it's Revenue based and I think it's just huge I think if you can just you know get the additional card I know it takes time and yeah it's part of the process for us too is kind of learning what it is that we need to do to you know to try right I understand trust me I understand this is probably new to you but I I think this is

I'm blown away I think this is huge for the city this is something new that the city needs it's just another attraction you know positive attraction for the city this is this will make it a more of a diversified City if if that makes any sense that the city has all kinds of options you know for everyone not just the youth but for adults as well you know like we're we're doing the quickest

Trail rule which is something the city's never had a little Landmark yeah you know that that's just huge so all right Kudos man thank you appreciate it good deal I think it's a great call in fact uh kind of enthused about this also you'll probably get a phone call in the next week or two for I'd like to go down take a tour more than happy it's okay with you yeah

we come see our brand new doors yeah Rhino doors nice painting that you're doing okay um I've got a question on the lease what is that a long-term lease that you have with the city it's a 10-year 10-year lease we are four years in so you got another six years correct okay correct and we've had great support because I've been in front of them multiple times and and uh staying in touch with uh Paul farone and

Mike lavasier in regards to you know what we're doing on there because my you know our thought process is always if I do anything except for mow the lawn uh I need to have Mike labosier come down and take a look at it so we do nothing until he sees it um so we're always making sure that he's he's he knows what we're doing um we don't want to rough runny feathers

so yeah be a good tenant um and they are definitely the the water board is definitely in support of what we're doing and um you know would love to see us see us there long term okay is there a possibility that you would bet you want to purchase um I mean I think if the right opportunity was there for us uh I think we definitely would but I think you know at this point in time financially

speaking it fits into our budget um you know our goal ultimately is to be a self-sustaining club which is you know obviously things such as the regattas and so on and so forth they're bringing enough Revenue um I'm I'm pretty good at asking for Dell um so we've had some good success uh but I you know eventually they're going to start you know shutting the door on me and telling me to go go somewhere else

but uh for the time being we've had some pretty good luck but um if the opportunity was right and the city thought that that was you know something that they would want to do then we'd definitely entertain the thought what's the percentage of adults and children's from Fall River that are utilizing this facility it's it's high without knowing the exact number I would probably say just percentages

percentages for for kids is probably right now is probably 85 90 uh from Fall River yes we do get some kids that have come from a little more distance um we've been out we've had kids from Miriam matapoisett and Carver we've had some from Lakeville uh we've had folks from all over the place our students from all over the place and the adult usage the percentage of that is uh I'd probably say the uh that's probably

closer to 50 percent again trying to get our our name out there um as an adult grower if anybody in this room or anybody listening to this has rode um we've had a lot of people come down and their eyes are it's like a kid on a Christmas morning they just they can't believe the space we have uh the facilities that we have right now are are second to none in this area so we

just need to get our name out there more for folks to know that we're there and we're trying believe me we're trying everything we can possibly do good okay now that's um that pond flows into the into the Taunton River and and it was it follows the quickest hand River Etc so is that monitored by the core of engineers at all um there's an open flowing it's it they control it though

right they've got Engineers no the city the city so right now I understand sucker Brook comes in right next to the club um and that the that is more used as an overflow for the north whatever so um does the core of army Engineers been in there recently to Monitor and take a look at it that I can't answer so there's no restrictions I guess on outside of Fall River having the water rights there's no restrictions

and what is your primary funding coming from so um ultimately we have uh well we hired a fundraiser Advantage philanthropy at a support Dave guertin has been with us for several years now myself and fellow board members from Bay Coast Bank and Bank five have supported us strongly the United Way of Fall River Kim Smith is on our board we've gotten some some nice help from you know some donors who are our rowers

and believe in the cause and a lot of it is just you know pounding the pavement and you know um 50 bucks here and 50 bucks there it goes a long way it seems like a lot but it's uh you know every every nickel and dime helps and when you're trying to run a free program like this it really makes a a big difference we did get a um some funding from the state

um Carol Fiola was instrumental in that Mike Rodricks and and we were able to to secure uh fifty thousand dollars in funding which is helping with um uh the new doors that we're putting in 80 compliant ADA Compliant doors and bathrooms and a ramp which is going to very easily blow through that money that they gave us um but well needed the building was literally about 10 days from what I

understand from being torn down the city had a bulldozer on site to take the building down before we got them to stop and if you saw any of the pictures of what it looked like compared to what it looks like now it's night and day good thank you thank you very much appreciate your time anything you want to turn into us we're not our next meeting is March 13th okay so support letters I would even reach

out to local high schools okay you know maybe they might want to start a rolling team anybody you know the more the community supports it I agree yeah yeah we've got quite a few down there the mayor's been down a couple times to see it and as he says he'd love to see a dirty team down there so yeah a little tougher to get in there but we're working on it yeah same thing BCC and

UMass Dartmouth and um you know we're we're we're making progress every year we get more and more and this is one of the things that's been on our radar for a while um to try to get some funding forward to be able to bring the schools down to Royale on the revenue side because as I say we'd love to be self-sustaining that's the ultimate goal Paul I I think you're going in the right

direction I mean it it takes is invested in the infrastructure I think once you you know as you keep going and there's more and more Investments I think there'll be more of a buy-in from like the community right from schools and think once they see okay this actually a facility that's operational I I think that's that's going to go a long way you know you're doing a great job for me it

sounds like you know you definitely you know pounding down one step in front of the other man every day I'm a needle I mean look at where you're at right now you know so I think you know kudos to you man okay thanks you're utilizing Fall River buildings forever water rights Etc so it would be nice if you could get a letter of support from the mayor yep even a few counselors would be

nice that would really betterment do your your course great yeah yeah I'll definitely work on that I just have one more question so you said the lanes would be kind of temporary uh as you can take them off so I I thought I saw in the proposal that there was like a retractable mechanism so I just wanted to be clear as no piece is going to be like installed or anywhere that so that is your water

department owned or city-owned that so that would also be part of that you know kind of grand plan that ultimately speaking I mean think of a swimming pool you know you go to a swim meet and the lines go out and at the end everybody leaves and they you know crank them up um I would love to have that type of system but as you can also Imagine that's quite costly

um so these don't require like any installation of that kind on city land no okay no these right now are um are are anchored um and they're meant to be you know retractable because ultimately I'm a late guy I'm not on this Lake down here but I spend I've spent my entire life on a lake and I spend a lot of time there and and not having access to be able to utilize the lake because there's

something in impeding my progress this is not a good thing so and I appreciate the folks who you know live on the way pay a little more and pay a little more because they get to utilize that that space even though there is a public boat launch and people do fishing clubs and so on and so forth so we want to be cognizant of that so the ultimate goal is is that you know

we roll it out and we have our Regatta and we retract it back in again so we're not really taking up much of the space for an extended period yeah I was just going to say because if it did uh like require some kind of installation like that it would definitely be pruning to get a letter of support from whoever owns the yeah yeah yeah thank you that's next time great thanks a lot everybody thank you

for already the next one up is the greater Fall River Arts Association uh 30 original windows Belmont Street that number is incorrect it's 38. 38.

38 of them how are you good can you state your name and address and absolutely tell us about the project um I'm Dana Barnes I'm the president of the greater Fall River Art Association for a little while longer um and I'm at 28 bum uh 28 Barnaby Street apartment number one Fall River um so the project that we're coming before you with this time is to restore um and or replace as the case may be 38

Windows including two of the architecture features of the of the building the porthole Windows one of them is on the very front of the window of the of the building that one is a stained glass window it's got a round um frame and and the glass inside of it is wavy it's old glass but the and the framing on it is wood it's not leaded or anything like that it's what and that need those that one

um definitely needs to be replaced the wood is rotted the framing is rotted the supports for the glass are definitely rotted that's one the second porthole window is if you're looking at the building it's on the right hand side on the side that actually has a porthole mechanism in it um Mr Cole was a salvage semen so his um shaving area I believe we believe that there was a toilet in there as well in

the little it's a pass-through um bathroom between where the bedroom was and then the sitting room the pass-through bathroom was where he would have done his shaving and I know that because we found razor blades in the wall that were dropped through the Medicine Chest so that was his the lady of the the lady of the house had her own bathroom and she was not going to stand and shave and throw razor blades down

but that that mechanism and that window particularly also will need to be replaced because at present it's got some missing pieces of glass it's got It's got the same our logo happens to have um that style of a window on it that's that's that's our logo at this time and the same on the side but the rest of the windows the third floor Windows all are in really rough shape the the the main

floor Windows we've done the best we can at doing some repair of on our own strictly volunteer and those windows are bloody heavy um I'm pulling them out scraping them painting them putting them back in this person sitting next to me is Ron Gagnon he is the chair of our house committee he's also the vice president um temp on a temporary basis as he is Fond to say but he's the one who coordinates all the

work that we do with the volunteers everything we do in that in that building is all volunteer work we we don't have like paid staff so we do we do what we do paint spackle all that but the windows on the third floor are the ones that really needs third floor really need attention they've never been touched in my personal Studio I have went across crosshatched Windows tough shape there was I can't tell you

when I don't have the history but there was water damage I mean it's a hundred year old house there was some water damage on the one side so um they my the windows are held together with L brackets so that's that's definitely a replacement um second floor has also been requested we need to tighten up some of the drafts that keep coming in here we've got plastic all over the place some of the

weights are are dropped down in and and we have not been able to get them up mainly because they're they're huge and heavy they're they're longer than some of the smaller ones so we're looking for some help to get those done the main floor um need some need some attention not as much as the the upper two floors uh we do have other windows in the basement area that will definitely need to be

attended to but at this time we are waiting for our Mason work from our other Grant to be done so we're working we're sort of working around in in pieces on that too um there is um I know there are there are lead there's lead on the windows I can tell you um no question in my mind the way the paint flakes I know lead paint flake and there is some and so that's why we've

also got some abatement issues for this for this project but all in all Mike Keenan and staff from civits there are architects of record they've done an amazing job at at helping us create some sort of a five to ten year plan for this building I'd like to have this building be here long after I'm not not the president anymore um so that's where our project is and and we're coming to you for some

assistance on either restoring or completely replacing these windows some of them I'll be honest there's a lot of framing issues in some of them there the wood is just not it's just not good I mean having taken out some of these windows we've done the best that we can to to stabilize them so they're not completely um falling out when we first started we started this project we Ron and I'll say it Ron and I started

this project when we were shut down for 18 months with covid we did the best we could but I'm not a I'm not a window person I don't that's not my thing um numbers are my thing but Ron um was you know we're pulling windows out scraping painting stuffing them back in as best as we can trying to get all the weights and ropes to to line up and get the little

wheelies I don't even know what they're called the wheels to work I mean it's just been pulleys thank you it's just been you know it's it's been a labor of love but um we're we're um we're in need of some real serious assistance especially on the third floor windows and and some of the second floor there's one side window that really needs attention none of our big stained glass windows are included in this they

are all in in pretty decent shape we don't have any broken lead no no none of that in any of our our leaded glass it's just mainly the windows that you look out of and we have some Cathedral windows on the ground floor that um the glass is exceedingly thin which blows my brain and I know that because we broke it when we were trying to to um do a little bit of restoration on our

own when you go to scrape the the um flashing off of it um it's it the the when the glass is so thin and when it breaks it's it's very thin we've had it replaced we use the local people in town but it's just each window is unique I was listening to people talking about Windows and things and every single one of those windows in that building is a different size every

single one you can't get two to match foreign and we know this so that's what our that's what our project is for this time I have a letter from the historic commission for this project I believe Mr Grant you got a copy of this at some point in time but I have copies for the rest of the board my apologies for not having it included in this package but it's here now all right thanks um

now for the board members that weren't here last year we uh did a grant for the uh four of Arts uh how are you coming on that I know we you didn't get the money until late in the season so right we are you want to talk about it Ron can talk about that that was for uh front four the front porch moving the uh fire stick to the side to make the entire building

look okay it was the roof got his front porch granite um better escape fire escape and it was a few other things the lead pipe there's a lot of lead pipe in the building all in the basement and that is in the concrete so there's money allocated for that how much was that for their project shooting how much is that 285 that's my guess I'm trying to remember somewhere around there yes we've met with um Mike

and a couple of contractors about going you know starting to work if we the hang up was the drawers weren't complete so it's hard for them to say you know this is this and this is that with medium Wednesday Mike's praying the gentleman on fire escape you know to get that relocated to a different area of the house because it sits right in the front of the house right yeah and it takes away from the

the beauty of the building yeah so we want to move it to the back of the house you know and have an exit we've designated a studio on the third floor that will no longer be a studio that would be the you know the egress Style and uh so with being with him I'm also meeting with somebody on Wednesday um in regards to the lead pipe I guess the state and city are involved in a

program so they're coming Wednesday morning but the hang up has been not having all the drawings ready they already know okay so I'm going to call a contractors back we'll sit with Mike and get this ball rolling okay some of the excuse me sir who's Mike oh civitek Mike sorry he's going to be working with us through the whole project um he actually took our classes there when

he was a kid so he kind of like he likes the building so that's the opposite all right so you should have work starting on this by summertime I would like to be starting as soon as the snow stops all right you know early spring let's get this let's get this going now on the 38 Windows how many are going to be replaced and how many do you think well goal Mike told me that the ideal

thing would be that he has two companies lined up one in Providence one in Boston it would come down let's say the third floor they would pull four or five windows take them right out they would then be brought back to their plant where the restoration would be done they would come back reinstall them and he entered them they would board those windows up so we've met the whole lot of snow there

may be an interruption with their Studios um there's a lot of metal that goes in these old windows like um a track when it would close it would help with the drafts a lot of that's missing the ropes and pulleys some of the weights you can't even get them out of the pockets because the opening is narrower than the weight okay so the first floor I can't open any of the the main Gallery windows

I can't get to the weight to put a rope on it to re-rope them upstairs we've done glazing we've re-glazed them we've pulled the windows out a couple of windows were rotted I have some carpentry skills so I took the rotted ones took the window apart took a section of the the railings that were rotted one over the diamond to the carpenter shop I mean over to Conley because we've

got a cop in the shop there and manufactured something and put the window back together so we could use them so it's going to be um I would think that the complete replacement of windows

18 okay I'm thinking 18 at um 20 of them could be replaced completely replaced do you think I I don't know keep it to the historical you know the only thing is single pane so I don't know what the plan would be when they come in just as long as it's a secretary of state standards uh yeah yeah well with Mike you know he's guiding us through this whole project

and he will help oversee it with me when they come in to do work this all over any questions foreign just so just one so the the project that you currently have been funded for yeah and I know you were saying that um it's it's taking a while and that's completely understandable but how long like once that project starts how long do you think it would take to get that whole project finish the first one the

first one I think once we get them in there I would say between three to five months because you're not gonna some of the Granite has to be removed and the mortar you know the the grout the mortar is going to be completely removed like the front entrance the stairways um it separated some of the seams of that wide open so that's got to be removed cleaned up and then rebuilt the

rest of it is just being you know repointed but I think once we get going we have contractors um we've got people ready they've met one Mike already and it's just a matter of getting the drawings to them so we can get started and he's they believe informed Dana that the drawings are finished the drawings are done and I would assume you can't really start the porch until you get the

foundation done right the only things we've been able to start is um well we're going to start with the leg the lead pipe because I don't need the drawings for it well it's just getting the city that's why I'm meeting with them Wednesday the water shut off sits like in front of some big windows in front of the porch but it comes into building over on the side so I got to find out can we come

straight through because where it comes into it's a studio the artists want to lock their Studios up I don't want that locked up because I want to have access to that if there's a problem together to shut up so that's what we're going to talk about on Wednesday some of the other things we um well we've done some on our own with our money some of the plumbing inside we've done we've done some classrooms

repaired ceilings Kristen's been in and it was in tough shape when we started in 2020 I've repaired ceilings that had severe water damage I don't know you've been enjoying yeah and Richard I mean it's come a long way in the last three years and it's a lot of Sweat Equity jazz anything else no that's it I don't have any questions at this time thank you I don't have any questions thank you

no questions thank you thank you um yeah a couple questions um so looking at your quote um fifteen thousand for a differential um is there like a certain time period that this will be running for that was kind of stay stationary at this location or they're looking for that for the third floor I know Mike um yeah they left us going to the third floor because those those windows it'll it'll be there while

the third floor windows are are waiting to be done that's gonna we're gonna start at the top and work our way down so it will be there for that period of time and then it'll go away it would be for a second and the second floor too but they'll drink those around the back because we're on a hill like the property kind of goes like this so they'll use that for for that purpose

some I think some of the other segments yeah the second you'll be able to get some of it I'd say probably a couple months yeah they want to see the fifteen thousand dollars in your request yeah Mike well yeah my um sorry keep calling Mike Civ attack we'll go we'll go with Michael Jackson right um and then the other so like for the designer for these um so 31 700 that's fine so they're charging for

structural 4500 what what is can you some of that some of that structural is I'm sure um based around some of the windows some of the windows are going to need some real soft real attention we've got we've got one window that in one of the studios that I can absolutely verify the set the over the Sash on the top has got it it's got a bow so there may be some level of structural

um that we have to have him take a look at I don't because I don't know what what's causing that but it's been that way for years yes it's like a huge bay window yeah and there's a sag so I don't know that was where a lot of the water damage I'm about to repair that ceiling in this um I I don't know if there's a lot of damage

in in you know the framing I didn't want to rip the horse hair plaster Off the Wall unless I have to yeah yeah because then it's going to be sheetrock that goes back up um the second one just pretty self-explanatory that Hazmat pre-designed three grand and then Hazmat specs and Winery for five thousand can you just clarify on that Express the monitoring um the specs I believe are for

there are there are quite a few windows that have like I can verify the windows in the third floor in the one Studio they are full-on um lead and and definitely have had nothing done to them in terms of like lead paint so if they and they will be ones that will have to go out um they're the crisscross pain ones um they will go out and I'm sure that in order

to appropriately put them back in there was at least some lead paint on that that's going to have to be appropriately disposed of not down my drain no right now this is just part of kind of like the design right and that's and that's the part that that Mike uh Civ attack put in um to make sure that they had enough coverage for any any windows that that need to be

um I don't know what they do with it do they dip them or whatever to get I don't know to get the the um lead paint off of them there was like there's I'm not gonna lie there's lead paint all over the all over the exterior for sure yeah we've reached out to Diamond and there's some work interior wise but they can't let the kids come into the building because there's a lot of

lead paint in the building so we can somehow neutralize all that either encapsulate so we we missed on that opportunity because the last question so City Texas you guys said I'm doing a presentation that they had a couple companies lined up is so you guys are going to use two different companies well I believe his thought is find one that would do it um and and go with that and it's two

companies he has worked with in the past and he's done a lot of historical restoration work here in the city he's very involved with you know some of the older structures I believe he just bought the old Andy Pharisee property where the um yeah was it Walnut or Walnut and maple Maplewood hi it's with a catering business was I guess he bought that so he's very familiar with old architecture and

and that's why we went with him when he's the city resident and you know his expertise thank you thank you you're welcome I don't have any questions right now thank you no I think I'm set here okay thanks thank you thank you very much thank you we appreciate it start on something on the outside from the last project yeah just give us an email let us know updates always thanks will do when I meet with him

Wednesdays we'll get something out to you right away thanks because I I like I say April if if the weather clears I mean I'm kind of bummed out it's been nice all winter now we're going to get snow right okay next week for God's sake you took your shorts out and all oh yeah I have one that's it yep all right thank you John thank you remember the days on a bounty oh yeah oh good times

yeah they were supporting sink out in Connecticut yeah there's a lot of sanding oh God yes there's some extra let's go down with the Bounty was here and uh we put down a lot of your extras and I go what do you need yeah Santa rails oh my God oh my goodness is fun yeah the fun was going on the different sales yeah all righty um let's see the only thing I have under

new business is our schedule to book the hearing room for uh March 13th for the deliberation and March 20th projects to recommend the city council when is it when are we for city council uh the 20th we're gonna vote and then it's whenever they put it on there yeah we don't we don't submit absolutely so they can put it in there but we do we'll try to get it in early because they uh

they start going with a bunch of stuff so you try to get in before budgets I know I know uh does anyone else have anything in the business or anything all right second second okay okay roll call vote yeah like solo bear uh Kristen Cantera Oliveira yes Julian Bentley yes Caroline Alden yes Alex Silva yes John Brent yes Richard Calderon yes Victor Farris yes me and Sandy yes guys