3.20.2023 Community Preservation Committee

yep all righty uh welcome to the committee welcome to community preservation committee meeting at uh one uh city council hearing room one government center Fall River uh Monday March 20th uh 6 33 you can catch the meeting through uh channel 18 government TV uh Facebook or live streams um pursuant to the open meeting laws any person can make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may

transmit the meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and deemed knowledge and permissible start with roll call we'll start with the zoom um Caroline lesson attending through Zoom Chris yep Kristen Cantera Oliver attending remotely by Zoom Victor Faris um remote by Zoom

Julia Bentley present Alexander silver present John Brandt president Richard Calderon president Rick Mancini present and we also have Craig from Fall River TV and we have Sandy Dennis Administrative Assistant um let's see um uh any citizen input tonight no citizen input uh can I have a motion for approval minutes of March 13 2023 meetings minutes I'll make a motion for the approval minutes of March 13 2023 a

second second that motion okay uh Caroline yes Chris yes Vic yes Joanne we'll start yep Joanne Bentley yes Alexander Silva yes John Brent yes Richard Calderon Yes Rick Mancini yes okay uh uh our agenda will be going with our scoresheet uh we didn't get some information back so some projects had to fall off so we'll be starting with the the highest by our voting um we're going to be starting with uh

Adirondack Farm Biore Reserve Discovery Center got the lowest 10 points which means it was the highest rank uh they're looking for uh uh 141 329 dollars for acquisition of uh

so in this will be um uh in the grant we'd be putting uh 7.1 Acres of conservation land um

plus uh two acres of residential portion containing a single family Cape Cod Farm is there any construction on this that we need to put in now so am I missing anything that we have to include on that there was a family uh grave site there also that would be in that land conservation conservation yeah that would be in that 7.1 Acres okay so can I have a motion can I ask a question sure the price the

141 329 are we voting just on that or are we still putting the amount um for the deed restriction in that nope nope we have to include the deed restriction and uh we have to add to that total right so uh Sandy at 605 we put in with the deed restriction and attorney fees right okay so an anoragnet funds we need a motion to acquire the 7.1 conservation land the two acres and the single family

uh plus we have to attach the deed restriction an attorney which is 605 so the total is 141.934 So one uh 141 934 that breaks down into what the CPC is given is 141 329 and then the cost of the D restriction with attorney fees of 605 brings it to 141.934 if somebody wants to double check the math okay it's that's the correct okay thank you so can I have a motion

for that or any more discussion I'll make a motion that we accept the uh the fees for the acquisition okay and the project in the second I'll second that okay roll call vote we'll start Caroline yes Chris and Cantera Oliver yes Vic uh Victor Paris yes yes Richard Calderon Yes Rick Mancini yes okay next on the uh list is the St John Baptist Ukrainian Catholic Church

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explain the accessibility feedback you got from Stuart because I think it would pertain to something with this maybe if we want we could include it uh with the um speaking with Stuart on the uh preservation um when you go to Secretary of Standards uh new code restrictions and all that fall under uh standards of Rehabilitation which allows us for a handicap accessibility and access to that to meet

the new code restrictions and all that to get into the building the chair for anyone that's watching uh who Stuart again Stuart saginor is uh he's a uh advisor for uh CPA Coalition thank you so can I just go go ahead yep um so this project and the eligibility phase uh asks for some accessibility things uh in their project scope that I requested they take out because the committee was

on any impression that accessibility projects didn't fall under historic preservation so in the interest of fairness uh if the committee feels and I'm not saying anyone or myself does if the committee feels that accessibility projects such as this is in general for historic preservation projects would qualify I would just ask to consider the original scope and the eligibility that asked for the ramp I believe it was

insides though so this is another question for debate it was an interior ramp for the basement bathroom and uh accessibility I think hand railing that they eliminated out of the scope so if the committee is leaning towards accessibility projects and historic preservation grants is an okay thing to do I would just ask for fair consideration for this project because they did listen to the initial requests

and removed it from the scope the both requested amounts were 58 000 so I don't think we have to change the amount um and the eligibility application I think they pulled out the bathroom for a cost of six thousand so since the cost is the same I don't know if they made that up and you know it would maybe be plus or minus six thousand dollars that's my point um my input to that I mean I'll

definitely like to make the motion to include that in because it should be part of that if we're if we're going to be fair we should be fair across the board for all projects okay do you have the uh right now I see we'd be including in the uh would be masonry work uh removing loose bricks replacing um repointing um we'd be doing a window work uh painting window sills inside outside um

just start that over please I'm gonna try and take everything in case people want the emotions right back uh masonry work preparing loose brick yep uh uh repointing power washing then we're going to includes painting all windows trim upper lower doors both sides um some replacement uh Prime and caulking pairing of the cupola we're preparing for the cupola inside with Plexiglas will be uh cleaning that recaulking

painting exterior walls at the Bell Tower porch rails and then handicap accessible uh for the bathrooms it's a ramp in the basement rear I believe and a railing too yeah Plus hmm did you get a second one no plus we have to add in the deed restriction for uh preservation store preservation so Richard was you said you would make a motion to include it in the scope so yeah so the original amount that was

submitted for the funding for the ramp I would like to make a motion to approve that it was 58 000 is everyone it was the original amount still it's just okay I'll second that motion okay uh roll call Vote or any discussion I just have a quick so the total amount I mean I got the paperwork I'm scrambling now but so it was the original total amount was 58 000. yeah I specifically brought the

eligibility application just in case yeah okay I just want to make sure 8 000. okay that's all right I believe you brother yeah I just wanted to make sure I was looking at the same thing I'm like yeah any scrambling through all my in and it said 6000 I think was the cost of the bathroom but it's the same total so you know if they could have shifted that towards contingency or based on the

estimates that they got from so it's 58 000 in total includes the 6000 correct yes it does not it included it originally in the eligibility application but that was removed in the funding application okay for the same amount so we could do it any way we prefer we could just add it back into the scope with the same amount or add 6 000 that was originally any eligibility for it so I would like to

make a motion I'm sorry Mr it's included now which will be a total of sixty four thousand dollars That's not including the D restriction which when we when the board approves it then we'll include the D restriction if if I can get a second just to simplify the process okay I'll second that so the total total would be 60 um yeah so four thousand sixty four thousand so fifty eight thousand plus six thousand

and the 605.

yeah this I think the 605 will will include it unless you guys want to include it now included now okay so the yeah so the total will be sixty four thousand six hundred and five dollars in total for the project okay okay uh rocovo Caroline Caroline often yes Chris Kristen Cantara Oliveira yes Vic Victor Paris yes Joey Bentley yes Alexander Silva yes John Brent yes which account one Yes Rick Mancini yes um

I don't think did we put Adirondack farms under uh open space not in the motion okay can I have a would you go back and make sure we put that in a motion that uh Andrew deck Farms is under open space here we have it yeah I'll make a motion second on that second uh roll call vote just putting on the right back farms under open space Caroline no it open yes Chris and Cantara Oliver yes

Victor various yes Joanne belly yes Alexander Silvius John Brent yes Richard Calderon Yes Rick Mancini yes preservation for the Saint John Baptist well I think we did uh we didn't put it into motion though yeah okay and the uh while we're on that the uh St John's Baptist if we could make a motion to put that under historic preservation I'll make a motion put that out historic preservation

all second okay roll call vote Caroline Carolyn Albania Chris Kristin Cantara Oliver yes uh Vic Victor Farris yes Joey Bentley yes Alexander Silva yes John Brent yes Richard Calderon yes Rick Mancini yes already okay up next is uh North burial grounds which would fall under uh store preservation um they got a score of 13.

this will be funding for uh restoration of existing iron vehicular Gates foreign

so when that would be to replace the uh existing Gates including um masonry work iron work and with the 605 gauge restriction any discussion on that

yeah I was going to say that yeah the Restriction we won't need on this one is already one on there them okay uh okay if there was no discussion all right can I have a motion to if I make a motion that we approve the north burial ground the fence for gate prepare under preservation under preservation 410 for a hundred and ten thousand uh second I'll second that okay roll call vote Caroline Caroline Aubin yes

Chris Christian Cantara Oliver yes uh Victorious Victor Farris yes Joey Bentley yes Alexander Silva yes John Brett yes Richard Calderon Yes Rick Mancini yes okay up next is the uh Dr Fisk house okay

we gotta figure out when um a case like that it was going to take me uh Sandy takes oh I said I just saw the public notes in case someone's watching I'll leave this um see Dr fiskaus is looking for us seventy nine thousand two hundred uh this will include windows on the east and west side uh storm windows and shutters uh installation cost included um we're missing on that am I missing any repairs that they're

adding to that um anyone and they won't need a deep restriction either because they have a deep restriction already in place um so I guess we need a motion for the Dr Fisk house under historic preservation uh for uh windows on the east and west side including painting installation um if I can have that motion I'll make a motion to fund or uh Dr fiscos for historic preservation for 79

200 for Windows on the east and west side and was it painting painting insulation repair work yeah painting insulation and repair work I'll make that motion okay uh roll call vote we'll start Caroline Caroline open yes Chris and Cantara Oliver yes Vic is that a yes thank you thank you muted uh I'm here says 87 that's the old number that's the old oh okay uh yes okay joy and Bentley yes

John Brent yes Richard Calderon Yes Rick Mancini yes okay passes under preservation all right Alex step on back up next on the item is the watuppa Rowing Club uh dock lanes and Mark and they're looking for 135 000 uh that do their project um in this I would uh like to include in the deed restriction the uh um but they said they would uh give lessons to uh a Far River students

and stuff so I would like to see that where we have a little some teeth into it so that they're gonna like a 10-year restriction where they're going to give the free classes and stuff you know just to hold them a little accountable if we can get something in writing yeah I think that that's really include that in the uh you know because it's public Monday and I think they should be you

know it's very broad though so I think they have a board so I think if the board um Bryce the CPC a letter saying you know a 10-year agreement um that they were all uh city of Fall River kids can attend um you know their classes for free okay so in this uh so Alex just put it so if if the board takes a vote on it approves it and then

submits a letter from the from the chair and the vice chair yeah we can uh we'll put that in our our grant and then uh we'll get a response back from them but they would have to give us that to get the money so correct would you need to keep it in age like could you just repeat the wording of that I want to make sure I get it sure so um I

I believe it I don't want to assume but I I I think that they do have a board if they do have a board divorce or take a vote on it once the Border takes a vote on it that we they submit a letter from the board um stating that there will be a 10-year all city of Fall River kids can attend classes at their facility for free Plus in the 135 would be covering the uh

equipment for six Lanes um I just can't sure go ahead I just have concerns with that because I don't think we've expressed that to them beforehand um it's still very broad 10 years for All City or forever kids to attend classes doesn't say would specify which classes doesn't specify what constitutes is you know fall over a kid is that fall over public school system or a resident um and then they're attend for free um

I don't know if they'll agree to that well they said and then their their application that uh kids would get free classes and use but it just wasn't like All Fall River kids you know like every song residents yeah I say if you're a resident if we're you're a taxpayer and you're going to pay 135 for a one which I think is a great idea because it's going to get kids out onto the water

which is a great place uh I think we should make it uh

I'd probably be more comfortable saying something like pending a letter from their board proposing some sort of free program uh for father kids that we ratify or approve well depending is we're giving them the money so I think we should say that we wanted 10 years it's going to be a value to the citizens of Fall River yeah so if we're giving 135 000 that's 13 000 worth of uh kids using a year

and that's how I look at it you know yeah I think he gets tricky when you try to narrow it down like you can't say well these kids can and these kids can't right a kid as a kid at the end of the day yeah yeah that I mean that's the way I look at it I don't know about anybody else I mean that's if you're a resident of Fall River and and and that means

that you're you're a person that's taking care of these kids are paying taxes to the city well they should be allowed since we're funding this project that's the way I look at it I mean again I'm just speaking for myself enough for anyone else in there um application they have the what upper rowing Center has been built on offering free rowing to any and all students on an all-inclusive basis

okay why don't we just read that into a motion for I also have something to add to this too as well um and I'm not sure how any other member feels about it I mean I know they're a new applicant they're um versus some of the other applicants that come from the board a lot of times I didn't see the um that the uh that the applicant put any contingency on there is there because

the total amount is 135 000 but is is that uh is a 10 contingency included on there or you did put that in there yeah he did okay I just wanted to make sure if we did yeah uh travel for the company uh the lines the weights everything okay as long as I just wanted to make sure because if not I wanted to make a motion let's see if we can add it but okay perfect

okay so you're all so we're gonna make the motion to fund the 135 for the uh line all the labor uh 10 years uh for kids to use the facility and that goes under open space uh deed restriction 605 so the total would be 135 605 yeah can I have a motion I'll make a motion can we place a deed restriction on city property yeah oh yeah you can yeah well how would that

work if they're leasing it you can't so if someone's Lisa like so let's say the close-up shop and left tomorrow that the the restrictions on the city not on the are the restrictions probably mainly going to be the the 10 years of uh right no that's what I'm saying it's an agreement would it be wise to put the restriction on the equipment rather than the deed restriction on the property

Monopoly too yeah because when we put it on the club itself yeah itself we put we put the deed restriction on the rolling Club yeah yeah not on the actual property but it the the D restriction is on the Rowing Club itself and this is you know because if they're not there anymore if for some reason they're not leasing the property anymore then obviously this this you know you won't need deed

restriction because they're not doing it right so be on the top or as long as they at least yeah under open space and Recreation it would be what a conservation deed restriction which I don't think really applies to this project are we talking about a grant contingency I don't know if that would necessarily be a deed restriction it could be just a contingency in the grant award where you know if they don't do

something they have to pay the full amount back similar to if someone under historic preservation doesn't do something they're supposed to they are liable to pay the whole amount back um I think that would be more accurate I don't think it would technically be a deed restriction um and that's under open space and Recreation so all I know of is conservation deed restrictions I don't know of any recreation-centric deed

restrictions that we've put on in the past

okay so we wouldn't so then we don't need the 605 extra no no okay well do we do have to when we feel uh the the agreement with the 10 years would that be a restriction that would have to be it wouldn't be just a restriction and I mean we call it agreement we can call that a mou you know where it's just basically an agreement that we use in public service between two one of

these you know the uh we would have to have legal draw that up right could we not just take the a restriction on the cost of the equipment uh into this particular document solely then the document becomes an official document and if there is a relinquishing of the property or the club all of that property would revert back to us because it would be in this legal document

my only thing is I want to make sure the the 10 years so I think they would still have to have a lawyer draw all that up we don't have to file with the uh okay all right so we just included in the agreement review all these anyway okay all right that sounds like it works yes the contract would be substantial right in the grand agreement okay all right so we're all we had a

motion I'm just gonna say I support the project but I don't particularly uh support the 10-year restriction I think that they've proven that they offer the programs uh until this point four years for free for students and as it says in their mission that they intend to do so I think they probably will intend to come back for more funding and if they still haven't met these uh you know

these requirements that you would you would set you know that would be liable that would be up to them for any additional funding but I don't think it would necessarily uh I don't think it's warranted to save well I think for the public uh I think it should be in there I mean otherwise they're going to be like we gave 135 000 for Whirlwind Club that's uh you know because if you hear

people talking about this is going to be a good thing because they're going to teach their kids when they're young you know they'll get into the sport so I think we should have some teeth in it that says they're going to continue I hear you Alex but I agree with you John putting that in this contract document stipulating 10 years makes it binding yeah you you don't know what the Rowing Club board will do in a

year I think between the chairman and it's right they could change it they could take a vote change their criteria so writing that in would solidify the 10 years for Fall River students or five or four of you just in the contract so I guess an agreement so and hearing you know my colleagues to the right and to the left and thinking about it um maybe we can all meet in the middle I know the the

lease that they have I think they're six years left I think either six or four so so why don't we say six years because let's say if we do 10 and the city does at least the property what do they do I mean they got to go somewhere what if they try to find somewhere else in the city and they can't and I'm just kind of throwing that out there to all the all

the all my colleagues all my board members to see what you know I would just say do a six because that makes more sense all right you know because we'll tie it in with the least then we'll do yeah six years uh for the kids I don't think they go in anywhere I mean that's just my my own opinion I think this is great for the city I think what we're

what this board is doing is just helping them start that core Foundation that they need um I do agree with my colleague to the left Mr Sylvia that I think they will probably come back for more funding um and I think this is a great program I really really do I mean I I lived in Boston and I and I seen it growing up and I think it's great it's gonna it's

gonna diversify the city in a way that folks will never imagine bringing all kinds of folks from from all over the country all big top colleges and and just the revenue streams from you know restaurants to hotels to you know someone out in you know in the midwest would be like I know the city of Fall River you know that's that's good you know I think getting the kids in there early because

we will guess on this I'll I'll have a ton of calls coming in and uh this way I at least can say that we did our uh due diligence yeah and we connected where yes they are going to continue to teach kids how to roll and use the row boats and stuff so absolutely you know I think it's a great opportunity with this and the farm we just did it's getting

kids to enjoy our Outdoors yeah and that's what CPC is about so okay so can someone want to put that in a motion now yeah I'll make a motion okay um if someone wants to second that unless you want me to repeat the whole thing no no I'll second that original motion so just for clarity can are we saying uh can you read the the verbiage so the verbiage that was they were submitted in

the application yeah so the Burpee says in the application um and then we'll we'll do a um we'll call it you know a restriction or you know or Mau in agreement that will tie it back to the original lease of six years that you know um that tool will be able to attend classes for free and that covers the Rolling Lanes equipment labor travel expense and What's the total amount that we're

funding is it just the is it the 135 so there's no deed restriction correct no because it's not a there's no Parcels did you just read well if it's labor it's back and forth they charge uh the contractor you mean the company that's

Rolling Lanes and equipment equipment uh the dock is there but in the application right or already in the uh no they have a doctor so they're just one of the lines from the doc six Lanes okay six six under Recreation Recreation and just for clarification the verbiage in the application is the watapa rowing Center has been built on offering free rowing to any and all students on an all-inclusive basis

for the city of Fall River kids students I would just say kids because that gets a little tricky when you just say student I would just leave it as kids yeah you don't want to categorize you want to just yeah kind of just vaguely just say alrighty so uh or something I make a motion approve motion we had a second and a roll call who is this sorry uh Rick was the second so roll call uh

Caroline oh I know I've been yes Chris and cantower Oliver yes Victor Farris yes Joy Billy yes Alexander Silva yes John Brent yes Richard Calderon Yes Rick Mancini yes okay next would be uh the greater Fall River Arts Association um under the uh standards of Rehabilitation we can uh doodle lift which we have done in the past at the Lafayette House uh and the uh edition of the handicapped bathroom is allowable

so uh they're looking for 253 is the new Total is that right I thought it was 265.

I thought that was the old one is it 265 Sandy OR it's 2 53 in the new application the agenda is wrong Kristen 253 which uh would include the uh outdoor uh lift lift uh electrical work installation um then the handicap bathroom which would be from uh studs to Plumbing to Electric to uh the toilet needs the total on that would be 253 is there a d restrict does that already

have a team restriction from last year yeah they already have one okay they wouldn't need the deed restriction am I missing anything that should be in that uh Grant agreement anything food uh 12 of the windows yeah the uh also they had uh 18 windows on the third floor that need to replacing is it 12 12 15 12 18 18 okay

so can we have a motion to uh fund that we go under a historic preservation okay I'll make a motion a second for the uh odds greatest four of Arts Association for the handicapped bathroom the handicap lift outdoor lift and the 18 Windows to be refurbished on the third floor okay isn't there a stairwell but there's a back staircase I don't think that was in well the back staircase was the was the porch Readjustment

I believe new Exteriors new exterior stereo dress accessibility concerns regarding uniformity and a new accessible toilet so I think there is a stairway stairway for the back for the back bathroom no the back entrance to get out by the back the the we're going to put the ramp that's outside no the ramp may not go there Mike uh Keane is supposed to decide the best place for it but it probably isn't going

to be the back because it would be a lot more cumbersome to try and do it off the back because of the size of the doorways it will likely be off the front but they do still need to fix the back stairs I believe to make them more uniform yeah if you look in the um if you look in their cost estimate it's a reconstruction of egress stair for accessibility it's broken out at ten thousand

okay yeah

it's in the 253 amount yeah

right here this is the new update yeah it's halfway down

all right let's start preservation historic preservation that would be any other comments questions can we make a motion on that for the lift handicapped bathroom and stairways in the stairwell I'll make that motion a second okay we'll call vote Caroline uh Caroline open yes Chris and Cantara Oliveira yes Victor Farris yes John Bentley yes Alexandra Silva yes John Brandt yes Richard Caldwell Yes Rick Mancini yes

all right we still have uh some other projects but um that puts us right now at uh 776 529 dollars actually it's John I I did the figuring based on we also have to take out the bonds in the administrative and then the amount to put into community housing so it actually with those taken out it actually puts us at 405 811 is all we have left yeah that's what I was going

to get to after oh okay thanks okay sorry but we also have to put since we're not doing anything under us um community housing we have to put 177 161 dollars that is calculated in my amount okay so I came out with 405 811 if somebody wants to double check that okay we haven't officially decided that though we're still going through right um I would say to keep a reserve on hand

in case uh total funding doesn't add up to what we should think we're going to get that we put that in reserve and put a hold on the rest of funding for this year how does the board feel about that I would advocate for the seawall condition assessment I don't think it's gonna damage our reserves yeah they've applied three years I think it's a benefit to the city yeah wholeheartedly

um you know in public view as often as we would like you know that doesn't stop it from one day being I went to go look at uh Blossom Road and Adirondack farm this weekend and the way I went past one of the sea walls you know so who knows how that Welcome Center will be accessed in the future this is all just building the buyer reserve and North and South

with tough Pond and everything that it stands for I think and I would rather have them looking for funding to fix it next year than looking for ways to do the study personally okay yeah I agree it's a good project I mean they do a great job at getting other funding and this would be the Avenue for them to go for the money so um to the uh uh well we didn't close out so we can

this would be the Northwood Temple Pond is looking for no right now I would say that's what I was saying we're going to do a roll car though yeah but we all decided not to cut the funding off so no right that's what I'm saying I'll stay quiet so the Northwood Temple Pond would fall under uh preservation uh they're looking for 82 500 for the I don't know if they're calling that a

study conditions assessment condition an assessment um can I have I'll make a motion second I'll second roll call vote Caroline Caroline open yes Chris person can Tara Oliver yes Vic Victor Paris yes Joey Valley yes Alexander Silva yes John brand yes Richard Calderon Yes Rick Mancini yes okay um so can I have emotions it's been funding now or I think we should at least say that we don't want to go forward with

the academica it was the lowest rated project I'm just you know so the public knows it was the lowest rated project on our Square sheet um we don't have to approve bad projects if we have money left over we could save our money for better projects that would maybe create more affordable housing that's my personal view yeah uh well I mean it's it's a nice project because it has three

affordable housing units but I think the 350 on our end is much I think a wiser spending it on a little project that's going to offer substantial housing instead of three units instead of bit by bit I'd rather wait till we get something that we can stick our teeth into so I'm in agreement too I mean I think if this project were had at least and I'm just throwing a number out there you know even

if it was a bigger facility that you know say house you know maybe 50 apartments and you know we they would get like like 15 or something like that and I think that just for the amount of money and then just two maybe three is just yeah the math is just not it's not adding up so yeah yeah and with our money in reserves and then the next year's allotment will

have close to I think 600 000 for any projects that would create you know 20 or 30 units like the example we saw in a Brewster yeah right exactly yeah so it'd be the amount okay so can I have a motion to uh stop funding at uh the amount we're at right now can someone read the amount we have left over right I think it comes to three two my numbers 322 706.

if somebody wants to okay that's taking into account that we've put the 177 161 into community housing that's taking the administrative fees that's taking of forty five thousand it's taking our bond amount of 359 to 92 from our original Total so my total right now is 322.706.

that's after doing the sea walls just to let people know our bond we have on the bio Reserve Land uh 78 000 the Mount Hope bike path is sixty thousand in the fire Museum and Central fire stations 221 292.

and our Administration is 45 000.

correct

so did we have a motion to suspend uh funding yeah second okay vote Caroline Albany yeah Chris Christie Cantara Oliveira Faris yes Julian Bentley yes Alexander cell yes John Brandt yes Richard Calderon Yes Rick Mancini yes already uh

uh the only thing I have for uh discussion is our next scheduled meeting uh the third Thursday of the month uh how does that suit everybody said on a Thursday yeah no no Dave Monday third third week third Thursday yeah third week of the month on a Monday that works for me so we're in March right now so the third week so the next one so the next meeting is April 17th

if we were to have a regular meeting yeah so that that works for me I'm not sure it works for me okay works for me it works for me it'd be all right for me okie dokie we don't need to take a motion or vote on that do we no okay uh let's see um I do have a question now that everyone's here um if if it's a regular meeting um

I mean there's no rules or really regulations kind of like in public I try to follow because that's what that's what I do professionally full time um if there's any items action items we want to talk about can we just email Sandy email Sandy uh this one we're probably gonna um finish up Sandy will start to put the projects together and we'll get ready to go in front of city council before the

uh budget process that way we get heard a lot sooner everything goes smoother and if there's anything that we have to go back and do we have time no yeah I was just saying just as a regular schedule meeting for the board yeah anything you want to put on the agenda yeah let's shoot her an email or me an email and I know we're gonna uh we'll start getting things together

where we'll we look over applications we also got to look over our um our master plan we haven't updated that we just normally use the same one so we might look over that but I wanted to start with a Steve stringent planning uh then we'll wait out the rest of the summer I can't have a problem with that if you guys you know um I really want to do some training I

don't expect us to be all experts in uh you know that end but it does add a little more to our wheel well when we know what could happen in a historic preservation building um I did I don't know if uh I did have my first steering meeting um this is kind of up here for the uh CPC in general uh because uh did you just say what the steering meeting with

the committee is is for the public oh let's see uh steering uh Coalition meeting uh for CPA and um there's a from one of eight uh members on it uh on the seat on the board and this is for the state right this is for the state and uh TPL represents CPA they take care of our uh all the hardware for computers and all that stuff they pay all the bills and do everything but

they're they're getting too big to take care of us and we're getting too big not to have somebody so we're looking at two different places uh that handle uh uh coalitions like us to manage our because right now they manage uh all of our personnel which would be Steward and uh Chase and a couple other people they take care of their health benefits and all this uh so they're looking at two

different places right now if that doesn't work out uh next step for CPC would be to come a 501c then they do everything yourself but that's about it they are in the funding end they're looking at a 34 decrease this year they used to have dor used to project forests but they don't do that anymore a storm like a stepchild and TP used to do it for us too but when it's guesting

they decided to back off of that because some communities might use that as like a golden number and it's just a estimate so they don't do that anymore but uh besides that they're looking into the usual um ways of making other extra funds housing selling housing all this so just you know interesting you know um the meeting so that's all I have to add anyone else I'll wait till the new business

last thing was update from Stuart oh Stuart there on the uh that's the Coalition update okay yeah that's what I just basically went over yeah okay I guess we're gonna have emotional Journey okay we'll go vote Caroline open yes Chris you can't Tara Oliver yes like Paris yes Joanne Bentley yes I was gonna sell yes John Brent yes Richard Calderon Yes Rick Mancini yes all right meteor Journey y'all have a good night