The Fall River Board of Assessors convened on March 29, 2023, opening the meeting at 10:03 AM with a 3-0 vote. The board approved the invoice proof list by a 3-0 vote. They then entered into an executive session at 10:05 AM to discuss abatements, exemptions, and ATB matters, reconvening in open session at 10:52 AM, also by a 3-0 vote. During the open session, the board approved numerous fiscal 2023 abatement applications (numbers 22, 71, 77, 82, 83, 85, 88, 93, 95, 103, 104, 106, 107, 118, 119, 124, 128, 131) and personal property abatement number five, both by unanimous 3-0 votes. Conversely, they denied a separate list of fiscal 2023 abatement applications (numbers 25, 26, 27, 28, 79, 92, 96, 98, 99, 102, 114, 122, 125, 126, 127, 129, 130, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145) and personal property abatement number six, both with 3-0 votes. The board also approved several ATB settlements (ATB 136, 102, 103, 164, 31, 64, 64) and fiscal 2023 statutory exemptions (numbers 104-113) by 3-0 votes, while denying statutory exemption number 114 by a 3-0 vote. A significant discussion revolved around the assessment of several parcels (j2415, v510, v512, v523, v526, w1561, w1576, w1577, w284, w285) to 'owners unknown' for fiscal year 2024. Laura Hadley, representing Hadley Real Estate Trust, addressed the board, claiming ownership of some parcels and requesting a 'care of' listing, citing probate issues and tax payments. The board, following legal advice, maintained that official documentation was required to change the assessed owner status. Ultimately, the motion to authorize the assessment of these parcels to 'owners unknown' for fiscal 2024 passed 3-0. The next meeting was scheduled for April 12th at 10:30 AM.
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go ahead pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledgeable and permissible thank you Dan uh roll call for the meeting Nancy highnote here Rich Wilson
0:25here Rich Gonzalez here motion passes 3-0 to open up the meeting time 1003 1003 the meeting's open item number two invoice proof list which is actually item number yes
0:47I had a chance to see it before
1:07let's have one can I have a motion to approve the invoice second yes motion passes three zero to approve the invoice proofless item number four executive all right um I'm sorry uh item number two which I skipped um prove the minutes and open an executive session for March 15 2023
1:49to approve the minutes in March 15 2023.
1:57now we can do item number four item number four can I have a motion to go into executive session to discuss abatement's exemption for submitted list pursuant to GLC 38 section 21a7 GLC 59 section 60 review ATB Mattis pursuant to gl38 section 2183 since discussion in public would be detrimental to the city's legal position we will reconvene following the executive session move to forward to
2:28Executive session second roll call Nancy I know yes Rich Wilson Wisconsin 1005 again we will reconvene after the executive all right may I have a motion to go back into uh Open Session second roll call Nancy highnote yes Mitch Wilson yes Wisconsin yes 3-0 motion passes to go back into open time 10 52.
2:5710 52 back into Open Session Tim and I make a motion that we approve the following fiscal 23 abatement applications number 22 71 77 82 83 85 88 93 95 103 104 106 107 118 119 124 128 and 131 second emotion roll call Nancy heineo yes Mitch Wilson's motion passes 3-0 to approve the abatements read by Nancy I know Mr chairman I make a motion that we approve the following fiscal 23 personal property abatement number five
3:44second the motion say I know yes motion passes 3-0 to approve the personal property which was read by Nancy I know Mr chairman I make a a motion that we deny the following fiscal 23 abatement applications number 25 26 27 28 79 92 96 98 99 102 114 122 125 126 127 129 130 133 134 135 136 137 140 141 142 143 144 and 145.
4:32second a motion to deny and say hi now yes Miss Wilson yes Miss Gonzalez yes motion passes 3-0 to deny the application numbers that were written by Nancy Mr chairman I make a motion that we deny the following person 23 personal property abatement number six yes Rich Wilson you Wisconsin yes motion passes 3-0 to deny the personal property account read by Nancy definitely they got ATV numbers on it okay
5:16um Mr chairman I make a motion that we approve the following ATB settlements ATB 136 ATB 102 103 164.
5:28ATB 31 ATP 64 and ATB 64. and uh Nancy and the abatements resulting there from and the abatements resulting there from I know yeah to Wilson yes which gonzos yes motion to approve the ATP cases read by passes 3-0 and Mr chairman I make a motion that we approve the following fiscal 23 statutory exemptions number 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 and 113.
6:07second the motion to approve yes yes Wilson yes motion passes three zero to approve the exemptions read by Nancy and Mr chairman I make a motion that we deny the following statutory fiscal 23 statutory exemption number 114.
6:31Auntie Highland yes Rich Olson Wisconsin yes motion passes three zero to deny the exemption read by Nancy
7:00all right that's number five okay
7:41foreign
7:54discussion involved regarding owner's unknown
8:14Jim and I moved the board of assessors authorized the assessment of the attached Parcels to own his unknown pursuant to General Law chapter 59 section 11 for fiscal 24 2024 since in spite of reasonably diligent efforts the assessor's office has been able to ascertain the name and respective owners of said possible appearing as of record and Nancy why don't you read the um Nancy why don't you read the attachment
8:40Apostle ladies um the following owners are known j2415 V 510 v512 v523 v526 w1561 w1576 W 1577 w284 and w28.5 so Mr chairman um I've done the research on these and as I have in the past as of January 1st there was nothing on record that I can find in the registry of deeds or in the probates that in spite of reasonable efforts that indicates that these are anything but
9:29owner unknown now we have with us today Ms Hadley who I assume is going to want to address this because she has informed us that Hadley real estate trust is the owner of w1561w1576 and W 1577 I've previously spoken to her and I've sent her an email about this and what I've suggested that she do is if she believed believes that that is the the fact that she apparently does that she could do an Affidavit of
10:02address and attach to the Affidavit of address and affidavit explaining the basis of that and what efforts they're going through because I think there's some probates that have to be probated and that based on that information coming in I would review it with you with the board and the board could decide if possible to do a care of for this coming fiscal year but that we could not name her but that you could
10:28not name her the assessment name them the assessed owners until those steps were taken because the chapter 59 section 11 it's assessed owners as of record as of January 1st we don't normally have a process here where the public can address the board however I would recommend that if you do want to hear from her that you could do so within the normal time limits that we would use which would be three minutes okay
10:53if that's okay yeah two things what I'd like to do is so we wrap it up get the vote on this well no no before you do the vote you want to hear from us oh okay okay so you have the motion pending but before you vote I would assume she's going to try to uh uh you know you can come up here so they can hear you um on the speaker on the microphone I
11:12suspect she's going to try to Advocate that you're not listening oh okay okay let's give her a chance to make it yeah and um uh do we need to have a vote okay good well you would need a motion to hear her um to wave the rules in here Republicans so so can I have that motion to wait for you and I'll make the motion that we that we waive the rules and we
11:37allow Miss hardly three minutes to to address us on her that matter zero pleasure to meet you pleasure to meet you as well uh it's not owners unknown we just discovered state your name my name is Laura Hadley uh my physical whatever address you want to use uh the address for the trust uh is 246 Durfee Street we discovered some property and some probate issues recently and are working their way through them we've
12:16paid the taxes on some of the taxes the taxes for I believe 2020. what a portion of the taxes on fiscal on W 15 61 not all the taxes 61 76 of 77 for 2021.
12:32some of the taxes we paid all of those taxes and then I believe they were paid again uh by my father we had a cross connection go trustees anyway they've been paid for 2021 for w15 61 76 and 77. we're happy to get you the additional paperwork it takes a little bit of time of course and so it respectfully requests that we have a pair of the Hadley family trust and then we can
13:04get all of the documents lined up to have the record owners be the trust okay and you get three minutes uh at the end of the day well let me ask you why don't you explain to them what the process is that you think you have to go through to get it of record well it's outside of a detail like in the last 350 years of History you know it's following the change specifics so uh at
13:38this point with three minutes we are asking that we have paid the taxes for 2021 we are happy to pay all of the back taxes and it will take some time for us to work out and resolve the specific probates and all that and regardless it's listed as owners unknown we pay the taxes and we need to just have resolved and we're happy to work with you it's not owner's unknown we pay the taxes and
14:16that's where where we stand although we have not yet received and I've requested several times both from the assessor's office and from the Water and Sewer Department who I understand us quite a bit of historic records do half the property records and a number of others one second I request that from the Assessor's Office Uh I that I didn't do a public records request that I asked when I spoke with them
14:46they have not public record request that I think of it yeah for sure so we're just we're trying to work it out and get it all squared away we just discovered a big mess and frankly we don't want to have to involve the city of Fall River and at the same time we need to resolve the property issues so I respectfully request we do care of and then we can work throughout the year
15:11to get everything bummed up if that's okay that would be excellent I'd very much appreciate it thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you you're done okay so um bottom line is the policy that we've used in the past and we've had this issue pop up before is that we have not listed care of until they've provided some documentation it happened out in the same area of property of land about five years ago
15:45with this and we had the people who purportedly were the owners to file paperwork with his under affidavits saying the process they were going through what they were basing it on and that's what you reviewed to do this the fact that somebody pays real estate taxes does not make them the assessed owner the law is clear on that the law is clear also that it's got to be as of January 1st otherwise it's a care of
16:09if this is your choice but for my two cents we have given Hadley real estate trust the opportunity to provide that information if by some chance you vote today to assess owner unknown this doesn't become effective until July 1st with those bills and if before that point in time they provide something that shows that you know gives the board sufficient reason to name them as care of owners we
16:39could always list them as caravanas at that point in time it's not going to change the assessed owners the vote today is who is the assessed owner as of January 1st and my legal advice to you is that based on the records of the registry of deeds and the registry of probate as of January 1st the apostles that were listed should be listed as owner unknown I respectfully disagree based on my review
17:07at the registry and I'm not going to get an attorney as well and I'm not going to get into a debate with you over this moment we have asked you to produce that information right which we are happy too and so once you work with that no no no the four you can work with this you have to tell us the basis of it and that's what I'm saying if you do that there is
17:26still time even if they vote for owner unknown today there is still time to make sure that the bills get sent care of you which is the best that's going to happen for fiscal 24. we can't change these test owner for fiscal 24. we can fix the assessed owner for fiscal 25 but as of January 1st of 2023 the assessment date for fiscal 24 the owner is owner or no because there's nothing of record if
17:52you want to supply stuff to us to them they will more than look we don't want owner and known Apostles we would love to have somebody that we can assess and contact with regard to the Apostle however by law and that was what the assessor's office said and we paid however there were rules and regulations and laws as to how this happens yes to make sure that somebody is just not coming in
18:15and and saying it's mine without any addition of that we have to abide by the rules and that's why we're asking you for the Affidavit of address and the affidavit attached to it so that's my two cents on this it's up to the board to vote what they want to do
18:39and we need a second and then you can vote okay uh dick again can you give us a second okay do we have the motion uh yes uh Nancy made it what I read second the motion I mean if you cover if you're not comfortable we can read the motion again right you want to do it it doesn't do any harm to be care of at this point we have already paid the taxes
19:02this is the assessed owners the assessed owner I've already provided you the book of page numbers okay I'm sorry I appreciate your time not not a problem and move that the board of assessors authorized the assessment of the attached Apostles to owners unknown pursuant to General law 59 section 11 for fiscal year 2024 since in spite of reasonably diligent efforts the assessor's office has been unable to
19:37ascertain the name of respective owners of said Parcels appearing as of yet roll call yes motion passes three zero to approval was read by do we all sign that NTI yeah yes
20:36all right um all of the relevant business not known 48 hours in advance is there any nope schedule of the next meeting Dan so um I just found out that Sandra's Heavens you sure you're gonna reach yep okay so the next meeting we were going to schedule was the 12th because she's having surgery that day oh sure you're gonna reschedule so all right so uh when's I'm eating the 12th it's gonna reschedule you're gonna
21:09reschedule because that is um Lily all right no it's fine all right um next schedule meeting is 12th 12 April 12th can we possibly I have an eight o'clock meeting club we make it 10 30. that's not a problem yeah yeah not a problem the 12th 10 30. okay good lucked out I've got surgery the 13th search for a week all right well my goodness thank you for your time