The Community Preservation Committee of Fall River, Massachusetts, held a virtual meeting on Thursday, March 31, 2022, at 6:00 PM, to select and recommend projects for funding to the City Council. The committee approved the minutes from March 24, 2022, and then proceeded to allocate funds for various projects. A significant portion of the meeting involved recalculating project scores and available funds, with Sandy Dennis, CPA Admin, assisting the committee. The total available funding for the fiscal year was $2,151,999, after setting aside $198,596 for the housing reserve. Key projects approved included $400,000 for Father Kelly's Park poles and lights, $297,605 for the Westport Extension Quickest and River Rail Trail (including a $605 deed restriction), and $230,000 for the Copaca Cut Reservoir water supply land acquisition. The committee also decided to bond two major historic preservation projects together: the Central Fire Station for $645,079 (including a $605 deed restriction) and the Fall River Fire Museum for $391,690. These two projects, totaling $1,036,769 with an additional 10% interest, will be bonded over five years at an annual cost of $228,089. Additionally, $150,605 was approved for the Historic Saint Ann's Church exterior restoration (including a $605 deed restriction), contingent on securing additional funding, and $138,175 for the Barnabas Blossom Workshop Restoration (including a $605 deed restriction). Towards the end of the meeting, the committee discussed the remaining funds and the Greater Fall River Art Association project. After considering the need for emergency funds and the complexities of partial funding, they approved $79,210 for the Art Association, covering foundation and roof work, including a 10% contingency and a $605 deed restriction, contingent on the association's acceptance. Small amounts of $105 each were approved for deed restrictions for the Dr. Fisk House and the Massasoit Fire Police Station, and $45,000 for administrative costs. The total funded amount came to $1,845,490, leaving a reserve of $306,509. The committee then voted to suspend further funding and adjourned after a moment of silence for Ukraine.
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okay welcome to the community preservation committee meeting a virtual meeting through comcast cable channel 18 and fall river you can follow through forever government television facebook live stream live stream in case of meeting conflict view on channel nine uh it's thursday march 31st 2022 six o'clock pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of
0:32this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible can i have roll call what i'll do is i'll call your name and just say here uh paul machado yeah chris oliveira here alex silvia here uh carolyn auburn yeah jason burns here
1:08richard calden uh here uh let's see victor ferris okay tonight's meeting is paul machado chris oliveira alex silvia carolyn auburn jason burns richard cauldron victor ferris and john brandt we're missing john ferreira and also in attendance is sandy dennis uh cpa admin and alex mello from forward tv ready uh any citizen input tonight no okay can i have a motion for the approval of the minutes from march 22 24 2022
1:52i'll make a motion for uh today's meeting march 31st second second jason burns hey can i have a roll call just to show of hands okay minutes pass today's meeting is a project selection for recommendation to the city council scores and votes um i guess first on the agenda since we don't have any housing we should move the uh to have a motion to move to housing uh 198 596. can i have a motion
2:33i'll make a motion can we move 192 000 nope 198 000. 198 000 a thousand 596.
2:47second second down okay so uh roll call john we did roll call no roll call vote oh yeah i'm sorry uh uh roll call vote on that uh paul yes chris yes alex yes caroline yes jason yes richard yes uh vic yes and john yes okay who passes um first one on the agenda tonight uh the top vote getter was um the um john you john you have to recalculate the columns
3:47didn't they recalculate no um paul you have too many threes and not enough twos you may have to make one of your threes a two because we need six twos and five threes the best blossom okay hang on let me just give me one second um just bear with me so i can okay so blossom hang on let me find blossom workshop okay aubameyang blossom workshop restoration you're going to make that a two
4:28okay perfect now that recalculates that project out of so if everybody goes to their scoresheet and makes that a two and then you click on your total point it'll recalculate it to 14 for you so just let me know if that worked for all of you i thought it recalculates it to a 13 because if you if you're taking away one of the points then it doesn't it go down to a 13 total
4:54he made the three a two right which means instead of it being a fourteen it now becomes a thirteen because it was a fourteen hang on let's see yeah it'll go down it wasn't it was a fifteen before i had it i had it as a 14.
5:13oh no i have it as 15. one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirty four it was fifteen oh on mine it said fourteen sandy sent a revised one i think and it was a 15 yeah wow i'm looking at the revised one okay so okay so let me just go through um i have 14 i have one too okay so every everyone should have and let me just calculate paul's one
5:49whoops one two three four five six okay that's sixth year one two three four six okay so that columns so those are your projects in order of selection so the top project was the father kelly lights the second project that came in was the quick machine rail trail and number 11 the central fire station then the next project will be the copper cut reservoir land acquisition and then you have two at 13 which is the
6:37fire museum in saint ann's church so those are your top projects and at that you're over your amount um so your fy funding available you'll see at the bottom it's two one five one nine nine nine uh so i will let you all um move on with your meeting and then decide how you're gonna fund so i'm gonna step out okay so the first one would be father kelly's park uh poles and lights for
7:04four hundred thousand um in that four hundred thousand we have to list what we're going to be spending it on it'd be four new poles removal of the old wooden poles electronic controls and light bulbs lighting system permits and fees inspection and insurance uh setting of the pole studs crane rental landscaping soil condition transformer electrical scoreboard all wiring needed for the fixture rewiring the poles
7:59install ground box i think that covers everything did i miss anything not that i can see okay can i have a motion to uh fund this project i'll make a motion to fund the project for um father kelly park second second okay next would be the quicker shannon you need a vote john oh sorry sorry don't put ahead here uh roll call vote uh paul yes chris yes alex yes caroline yes jason yes richard yes vic
9:02yes and john yes uh vote passes alrighty now next one is the westport extension quickest and river rail trail with 297 thousand john is somebody keeping a running total as to how much we have left from what we originally start with uh i have a running total of the first six projects um i don't have a running after result kristen i'll the spreadsheet will calculate a running tally for you so i'll i'll keep
9:46a record um paul i don't know if you want to keep a record of it too because this sheet will automatically calculate everything if we add anything take anything off if you decide you want to change anything and then after each project we can we can update the we can review and update the figures is that okay that was fine so did it just recalculate from what i did not take down yeah no because
10:14we didn't change anything so if you change anything that's in green it'll recalculate like so um if if you change it uh i'll go as you go through your projects i'll update you okay i just want to make sure that we're not uh going to overspend that's all yeah we don't want to overspend we already in that total that you gave us the the two 2 million 151 999 that's after taking
10:47out the amounts that have to go into um the housing correct yes because yes yeah if you look under the blue column at the bottom of the total i put the 198 596 in there okay okay so right now right now you're over so you're going to have to figure out what you want to do with some of these projects that are in green ready andy this to clarify in the score sheet there's actually formulas in
11:25in the rows that will automatically calculate when you use it right yes yes and you can all you can all calculate as we go along as well this way we'll know that we're all on the same page correct okay thank you okay you're welcome okay so the uh rail trail extension is 297 which is for construction and uh materials is there anything else we want to add to that
12:01uh oh we have to add the 605 for uh restriction yep and you have to add how many feet i believe it's five or six hundred feet uh 500 500 feet right can i have a motion on that i'll make a motion second let me make it richard go ahead it doesn't matter for a second you get approved okay i'll make a motion to fund the chan rail trail for 297 605 dollars
12:42plus the 605. that is that is with the 605 297 605.
12:50and we had a second uh roll call vote call chris yes alex yes caroline yes uh jason yes uh richard yes victor yes john yes uh vote passes uh seven one
13:30okay john your next 11 is central fire station okay so this is where you if you want to bond the fire and the museum you might want to take your numbers out of water to discuss that okay because the fire museum danny we just went back on you can i have a motion to take uh the forward fire museum out of uh um and move it up to talk about bonding
14:05with the central fire station i'll make a motion to move the fire museum and put it with the central fire station out of order to uh talk about bonding okay a second second okay uh uh roll call vote on that uh paul yes chris yes alex yes caroline yes jason yes richard yes vic yes and john yet measure passes um let's see on this if we were to take the two projects if they they passed
14:51would be a total of one million uh 36 thousand dollars 164.
14:57um if you had the interest in of uh oh uh 103 616 would bring it up to one point one million one hundred and thirty nine thousand seven hundred and eighty over five years that would be uh bonded out to two hundred and twenty seven thousand nine hundred and fifty six per year for the five per year yes
15:32um question are we going to discuss it or just a motion do we want a discussion on it okay uh can we have a motion to consider bonding if the all projects pass i'll make a motion that we bonded because both projects pass second i'll second okay roll call vote uh paul yes chris yes alex yes caroline yes jason yes uh richard yes uh vic yes and john yes okay so first one up is the um
16:23central fire station
17:06okay on this project we will be funding uh masonry cleaning uh masonry repointing masonry uh consolidation masonry construction install new windows spandrel panels doors for the bay doors uh install new mini splits uh lighting um and design fees for well we bought on that uh 250.
17:47is there anything else we want to add into that one john how many windows and what side of the building or all the windows in the entire building we're doing a north this is for the north side stream the windows they have 375.
18:10that doesn't sound right does it
18:20i'm missing something that i see 375 windows but it can't be that many
18:41you
19:14seems like it might be 375 square feet of windows since they have the price at in square footage yeah that's what i'm thinking so it doesn't say number of windows so i think we'll just say 375 square feet of window is that adequate enough for the board yeah on the north side i think that will suffice if we say on you know okay 25 square feet on the on the north side on that street okay
19:48all right uh anything else to add can i have a motion this doesn't need a deed restriction correct because i believe it already had one from the roof prior uh i don't think we have a deed restriction on this one do we i don't think so uh no we'd have to add the 605 for deed restriction too so that's getting added to the total that we're bonding yes okay
20:26yeah the other fi i know the the fire museum i believe already has a deed restriction but not a central fire yes okay so add 605 so we're going to have a motion for that i'll make a motion second second okay uh roll call vote paul um how much was that for uh well the total bonding would be uh total bonding with for if we do the museum with the deed restriction on just
21:05the center fire station comes to 200 actually no that's wrong because that's not per month sorry i think it would come to well the total the total amount for the fire station itself is six six hundred and forty four thousand four hundred and seventy four plus six oh five for the deed restriction so that's it would be that those two together at least 645.79
21:41or 74. plus 6 605.
21:48yeah that's 645 079 this is 605 for the uh oh yeah the need correct yes it was a 6 45 79 that's what i got yes yes
22:20a real call vote on that paul yes chris yes uh alex yes caroline yes jason i abstain from this vote uh richard yes and vic yes and john yes uh passes
22:54next one we'll jump on is the uh forward museum
23:25uh
24:03you
24:22here i miss playstation
24:40somebody have that sheet handy that has the 391
24:51are you just looking for the total 391 uh for uh what uh we're gonna fund uh with the project we're going to fund the 391.
25:02i had it but now i put it somewhere in this book i can't find it
25:36uh
25:47yeah it's out it's under the section appendix seven yeah that just i just found it uh okay so on this one it's a window restoration uh we're gonna uh this is phase one uh for 24 windows phase 2 is for 23 windows installed architectural fees and uh vegetable restoration can you just say what side the windows are on john just to be specific for the contract yeah
26:41phase one is the fire side and phase two is the police side that's window frames and sash
26:57anything else we want to add to that one gonna have a motion i'll make a motion to fund uh the forward fire museum for three hundred ninety three thousand six hundred and ninety dollars to be bonded with the central fire station okay uh roll call vote uh paul oh second sorry i'll do a second okay richard uh roll call vote paul chris yes alex yes caroline yes uh jason i abstain richard yes rick yes
27:50and john yes uh project passes all right my estimate with with those being bonded and for the two that we've already taken off my estimate is 1454 394 left does everybody else have that what's the total amount with for the five year bond now i come out with 230 884 because you added the 605 to it what was it sandy um because you added the 605 to the central fire station my bond my bond
28:39figure is now 230 884 points rather than the 27956 okay okay if someone can just recalculate that for me um i come out with um six 45079 for the central fire station now yeah that's what i got all right and then add the 391 690 to the museum and you'll come up with your new total of 1036769 and then take 10 on that for your interest
29:34i just want to make sure that you have the right figures in your squares
30:14do we come up with a total one three i come out with your interest of 103677 so i'll do 103.
30:36six seven six nine plus one oh three six seven seven so my total comes out to one million one hundred forty thousand four hundred and forty six and if i divide that by five it's two twenty eight oh eight nine two twenty eight oh eight nine i just need a couple of people to refigure that for me because we don't want to put the wrong figure in that box
31:29did you get it you got one one million one hundred and forty thousand four four six is that what you got sandy uh one million one hundred and forty thousand four hundred and forty six that's what i came out with yeah that's what i reached that's what i came up with too okay and then you divide that by five for a five year bond and you come up with two twenty eight oh eight nine richard
31:52let me divide that hold on one second divided by five i came out with 228 thousand eighty nine dollars and twenty cents yeah you and i guess you can drop the 20 cents if you want and if someone can can you i just got the same numbers okay so your five-year bond for central fire in the flyer museum would be 228 089 so i'm going to put that in here just to show
32:26you it comes up to 925 694 so paul what do you have 925 694.
32:42okay
32:52what's nine two five six nine four what i don't have that number total spent so far
33:13for bonding no no total projects yeah those are the first two those are the first um four projects yeah but you can't count the fir you can't count the two that we bonded with the first two because you're not taking it off that total because you're bonding those so that's not going to come off the total that we still have left to spend that's correct so what we've only spent so far we spent
33:47the 400 000 and then the 297 605 so you've spent six ninety six ninety seven six oh five twenty eight thousand is going to come off this year's budget and the 198 596 for your housing reserve okay i thought you had already taken that off the top in the first place often that's in your total column see none of that's showing in my mind's not updating yo oh your sheets not updating okay
34:29hey i i'm doing this all by hand on my channel okay so so my sheet's updating hey hang on i'm gonna just say sandy can you just share then if that's okay with everyone so everyone can just be in the same page yeah so you have um hang on let me do this land is 230.
34:54let's see okay so paul i'm gonna go with paul here um paul i have right now that is completely um voted on except for admin which i can take that out um you have right now you've spent 1 million 247 290. that includes other kelly the westport quickest shannon bonding central with the fire station the 198 596 for your housing reserve the 78 000 for the bond that you still have on the
35:41bioreserve conservation and 45 for admin so right now you've spent 1 million 247 290 and you have a total of 2 million 151 999 to spend uh so your next project that you can um look at is number 12 no hang on you're on number 13 so you have okay nope you've got number 13 you have saint anne's church which is number 13 that you can talk about now um yeah
36:28when we took it out of order for them okay yep so you've got the copa cut land is your next project to vote on because that's number 12.
36:37okay right now you've spent 1 million 247 290 full do you have that same amount i have 45 000 in mind for admin that's why i might be off from you isn't that i just
37:00my total right now after all of that we have left 904 709 is that what you guys have that's what i have too yeah okay hang on let me just so let's see the total you gave us andy was 1 million 247 200 the total that we have available is 2 million 151 000 999 and if you subtract that leaves us with 904 709 right that's what i have okay yep i have the same thing okay
37:42yeah i have that same figure 9047 that's how much you have to spend um if you want to spend all of it if you want to liquidate the account and spend every penny then you can you can spend another nine hundred and four thousand dollars 904 709 but your next project to vote on is the um copycat reservoir water supply and land acquisition thank you you're welcome well sit there thanks
38:13so next up is the copacat reservoir water supply land acquisition uh 230 it's for 16 acres of privately owned forest land off of indian town road we'll have to add to this one a uh chapter 97 uh protection so i think that's 605 we have to add to that um doesn't the water department handle those and a chapter 97 protection is much more expensive yeah they do ball they've been taking care of them yeah
38:51they do okay all righty so we just have to it's just the 16 acres of forest land on any town road then um nothing else we can have a motion i'll make a motion okay second
39:19yes chris yes alex yes caroline yes jason yes richard yes yes okay project passes
39:56i'm ready so the next one would be stadiums
40:10we have a historic saint anne's church exterior restoration um 150 000 plus the deed restriction of 605. that's the deed restriction for 605 and this would be for slate roof anything else we want to add on that i would just add that we make it contingent upon them securing the additional funding that they're requesting for the project from other sources okay so can we have a motion a motion to approve the project
40:59second problem okay uh roll call vote paul um is that the 150 with the congress conditions that get the rest of the funding okay yes uh chris yes alex yes caroline yes uh jason yes uh richard yes vic yes and john yes um passes
41:46next i think is barnabas blossom okay you're at 1627 290 now um the balance i have is 524 104.
42:00i've twenty four one oh four okay five times four one or four okay so hang on two one five one nine nine nine minus two seven two five two four seven oh nine oh yeah but then you get the 605 for the deed restrictions so it brings it to the okay hang on let me do that i'm going to put that in there 150 605 thank you kristen okay so you come up with 524 104 now
42:43um i don't know if you want to add the filings for massasoit and fisk john uh okay do we want to take barnabas and then take those what's your next one uh barnabas workshop
43:12sandy's on mute that's the next one i have is that what everyone else said that's what i have too all righty so next one is uh the barnabas uh blossom workshop and uh that is for 137 570 and that would be um plus 605 about 605 for the deed restriction that would be uh roof replacement grant foundation restoration clapboard shingles restoration clapboard shingle siding painting basement window restoration two
44:02first floor windows restoration twelves second floor window restorations four door restoration uh general wood uh consolidation bulkhead replacement concrete stairs patching and new handrails uh structural framing um i think that covers everything in there is uh am i missing anything there just to be clear we're going from the the amount was 137 570 to now 138 175 correct correct is the 605 okay thank you
44:49can i have a motion i'll make a motion that we uh i'll second it ready uh roll call vote uh paul yes chris yes alex yes caroline yes jason yes uh richard yes uh vic yes and john yes uh project passes um then we'll um so my total now that i have is 386 520 750.
45:45was that 386 520 750.
45:53okay uh next we were um it's uh the doctor fisk house totally like kristen has correct i think it's missing the deed restriction 605 unless i did it wrong i have three eight five nine two nine but maybe i missed something no i did three three eighty seven five seven you see all right let me try this again
46:38oh yeah 385 929 sorry what was that figure again for the um autonomous workshop what was that figure chris it was one um 137 570 plus the 605.
47:02okay so what's the total 1 138 175 i'm sorry 138 1775 138 175 138 175 okay and then john your next one is number 16 which is the odd association if you want to um that will almost liquidate your um account and i'm not sure if you want to put filing fees on the fiscos and the massasoit fire uh i just did the calculation on if we fully fund the art association and
47:50that would leave us with one hundred and two thousand one hundred and eighty four that's with the 283 140 plus the 605 d restriction so that still leaves us with a hundred and two thousand one eighty four in reserve uh what's the board's decision on that i kind of like to have a little in case emergency funding um do we wanna continue with uh projects or do we want to make a motion
48:23to suspend here and add the two projects for the deed restrictions discussion alex it's really a shame because there's still so many great projects left but i kind of think back to the emergency application the committee saw with the library and i'm cautious about a similar situation coming up in the future and what we would do if we were presented with a large emergency application for
48:54something really important if we didn't have the funds to kind of meet it at the timing that it needed um so i'm a little hesitant to go down to maybe a hundred thousand uh but i i could be swayed either way at this point i mean is it possible to maybe partially fund them is there you know are there things that we can fund in it that would at least kind of
49:21from conversation i had with mike keane when the committee in the past has partially funded applications it was uh kind of hard for them to know what half we were trying to fund especially when costs couldn't be as easily broken down you know right down the middle and then you know if they have a design key for the whole project they're gonna like it this it's harder for them to kind of
49:47separate their designing process too in that in that respect so um i'm hesitant to split it up unless there's an easy way to do it but from what i remember with the presentation i don't i didn't notice any breakout items so yeah i mean they have like somebody if we funded the porch then they're gonna do the top i don't know how that works the porch you know you do the porch and then you
50:12start working above it i mean i think they'd have to do the porch because that's where the foundation is and the porch is really starting the foundation is is kind of crumbling i think they would have to start there so are we do we have any money that's going to be coming back to us for any reason yes um we don't have a total on that kristen john and i met with the city
50:41administrator and the treasurer but we now have another new treasurer and i heard we're going to be getting a new auditor so now we're going to have to meet with them um to stop that process and i'm not sure how long it's going to take for all that money to get in there and what the process is especially with the new people coming on board but we do have money coming back
51:05to us but i don't have that exact amount uh i'm i'm safe to say it is over a hundred thousand dollars i would feel safe saying that that's right i tend to be like alex i tend to be cautious with everything especially the climate of the world the way it is today you just never know so um yeah i would be comfortable saying that we could probably get another hundred
51:30thousand if not more out of what we already have and but i don't know how long it's going to take us to get that money back into our reserves and don't forget i have to check to see how many different categories we have extra money in i know we we have it in historic preservation we might have some in housing and we might have some in open space and recreation too
51:51so i i think there's a there's a few things that we need to take into consideration um one you know we don't know where we're gonna get that money the city doesn't have a city auditor and even an assistant auditor right two the biggest thing so as everyone knows you know with everything going up because of covert material costs and everything i mean i would definitely be cautious and just
52:13recommend to suspend now because you know having an emergency slash you know rainy fund you know we definitely should have because again everything is just going up um we we don't know what what diffuser holds we don't know exactly what we're getting back and when we're getting it back so i would just recommend to uh to suspend now and just have you know a good you know decent amount of emergency
52:38for that reason in case something does come up but i mean we do all the projects do have a 10 contingency so to take into consideration for the expense of of things going up and like sandy said there are things that we do still have in um in the balance under historic preservation at least and and i know community housing has some right sandy and then i'm not sure yeah i'm not sure how much
53:09i i would say community housing probably got liquidated i don't think there might be anything there um we don't have we don't have any projects for that anyway but i mean no no don't forget yeah don't forget you're you have what you had last year and this year in community housing so you have a reserve of almost 250 000 in community housing going into next year you still have in reserves 27.50 in open
53:35space that you can use you have nothing in reserves for historic preservation but what hasn't been spent we have to figure out how much it is and how to get it back into our accounts to spend in our reserves but i would feel comfortable saying we have at least a hundred thousand if not more what we have coming back wasn't that for historic preservation most of it kristen yeah yeah yeah most of it's um historic
54:05preservation i mean if we wanted to get them started we could do the uh foundation part of it which would be 33 835.
54:18if you wanted to get them started that would still leave us with a good emergency funds how much did you say that was john uh it added up to 33 835 that would be cleaning the granite masonry testing the mortar reset granite stairs spot repoint the granite remove and replace existing lead water lines and remove and replace metal hand rails i mean if that's something we wanted to entertain
55:07john what was that partial amount uh 33 835 33 835 correct
55:31jason has his hand up yes jason so um if we fund that 33 000 that knocks us down to about 70 and change i'm doing it quick here and then we are looking at some money coming back correct yes so i i would side with the idea of being pretty cautious and having a decent amount uh saved but i would be in favor of spending that 33 but i would cut it off right there
56:00that's that's the end game for me because um i'm not really sure what we're looking at getting back so um that's where i would draw the line for me paul would you put a deed restriction on that property because of the scope of this work i think yes i think that yeah so you would add the 605 to that amount 605 so it's 34 440 maybe a round off at 35 000.
56:30alex i will say that this is exactly what mike keane was talking about so that 33835 amount is just for the foundation work but it doesn't take into consideration any of the costs for the design fee allowances so for the firm to break up how much of their architectural design cost allowance was for the foundation i believe is difficult for them and then we would also have to allocate a portion
56:56of the design fee allowances which we wouldn't know the exact total of to cover the work needed you know what i'm saying you got a point there yeah all right so will cbtech just take a portion of the scope of work for the design work hard for them to really probably tell how once it is right so in architects and engineers i mean their design fee is uh uh forty three thousand two hundred dollars
57:26correct so in our meeting previously one of the questions i asked is um they so when they did design you know an architect any kind of design for any project you know the scope of the work is just from start to beginning not in faces unless the project is broken up into faces so i think that's an important question that we need to ask um if let's say we just partially fund
57:52and then moving forward what if we don't we don't receive the additional funds to fully fund our project that would be my only concern okay they could choose to not accept funding if they can't do any partial work
58:20yeah so what's the uh board's feelings on this make a motion for the foundation
58:36so what's the total if we partially fund it uh i get 34 440.
58:50okay and then you have to add 605 for the um oh okay all right sorry so we do we want to just round it up to 35 000.
59:03like just a 4g we want to leave it at 34 440.
59:08we can round up to 35 000.
59:13are you going to include are you going to include any architectural services yeah how are we getting that number or i don't know if it would be easier to fund the full design of the allowances but i don't think they would necessarily use it all and the work they do might change if they were to come back with a phase two but in my understanding um in order to fund this project i mean if
59:44the design already has a design you can't use their design if it's not fully funded i'm just maybe i'm just getting confused but i i don't think it works that way they're not going in that case they can turn down the what
1:00:07okay that means the start form i mean they can accept it or not accept it right no and so the reason i'm saying this and i'll just be frank it's just you know it's just not not wasting the board's time and just because again i mean it's what i do for a living um you know but i mean i it would have been great to have an answer now but we don't um and
1:00:30again in our previous one of our meetings um i asked that question in the semi text and and you know clearly said no we don't you know so they can accept the donor step right right okay thank you okay can i just say something i'll go ahead can you just put contingent upon them accepting because i would hate to do the go through the appropriation order process and fund them and then they don't want it
1:01:01then we have to go through that whole process of trying to get this money back so that's the reason i was trying to yeah because to have to do i mean the appropriation order process takes a while um and i would hate to have to stop that process if we can find out from them if they want it before i do the whole appropriation you know and then i can just add that
1:01:26figure in here because you voted on it contingent upon them accepting those terms and that amount okay all righty so can i have a motion for the uh foundation which is 33 835 then add a deed restriction for 605 brings a total of 34 440 upon them uh accepting the uh the grant so okay is that not uh are we not building in our contingency for this like a 10 contingency because we're not
1:02:06including i don't think any of that from the previous total we could also is there a reason we're focusing on the foundation isn't typical i just figured it was working its way up and it was a piece that would they could finish but typically isn't it the roof down because i just added up the cost totals for the roof work and that comes to i think 19 000 unless i'm misreading this so see it's
1:02:35a smaller amount and then it prevents you know the trickle down of water and any other damage that there's the uh i know the the foundation the steps in the railing would probably have a greater community impact with all the visitors and stuff they get going in through there so i understand that as well well can we afford the 19 and the 34 because it's still a lot less than the total of you know the two
1:03:01however much it is two thirty five two what is it you had nineteen thousand you said alex yes but if someone wants to double check that i'd appreciate it
1:03:27that would be repairing wooden gutters coat wood gutter interiors replace damaged shingles re-secure loose shingles is that what you'd want to fund
1:03:50so we're talking the foundation and the roof
1:04:03yeah i get 19 000.
1:04:11yeah i get 19 000 for the roof so since the 19000 of the roof and the 33 835 of the foundation added together still if we if we were to approve that added together it would still be left with over 300 000 i'm wondering if we should just fund the contingency as well for it and i don't know if they could use that for design fees that they would incur
1:04:49um i'm not sure if that if that needs to be more specific though so so we'd be funding seventy nine thousand two hundred and ten dollars so you guys get where what's the contingency what are we figuring the contingencies that's uh 25 740.
1:05:19that's for cost overruns and how much is it again john 79 210 no no what was that just the contingency oh 25 740.
1:05:34all right yes i get 79 180.
1:05:4079 180. just so everyone's clear that contingency is for the full project that they applied for too so it's definitely higher than a normal contingency right yeah the math on what does that leave us with uh if we do um the roof and the foundation i'm sorry hang on so 385 we were at 385 929 and then if we subtract 79 307 749 i'm getting i have 306 749 what am i doing wrong man
1:06:22all right oh wait did you add the 605 for the d description yeah hang on i might have hit the wrong number we have over three hundred thousand still 306 749 i get
1:06:52okay
1:06:59so in this project we would be funding the foundation if we went over the granite masonry testing the mortar reset granite stairs spot repoint granite masonry remove existing lead water line remove and replace metal hand rail the roof replace the epdm roof with the new pvc roof membrane at bay windows install new aluminum downspouts repair damaged wood gutters with epoxy compound coat wood gutters interior
1:07:36replace damaged or missing slate roof shingles re-secure loose slate roof shingles and we've added 10 concentrate which is uh more than a uh it should be 25 740 or total cost of 79 210 can we have a motion for that and that included your 605 correct yeah yes seven nine two ten i'll make a motion that we do this project okay second i'll second contingent on them accepting it ready uh roll call vote paul welcome yes
1:08:36okay chris yes alex yes caroline yes uh jason yes richard no vic yes gone yes uh project passes was richard's vote no correct linda
1:09:12and i guess also if we could put uh on the dr fisk house the deed restriction 405 can i have a motion for that how much is it for john 105 for the deed restriction i have to recuse myself for this one i think i'll make a motion to uh put 105 toward the deed restriction on dr fisk house i'll second him okay just to be clear just to be clear that's the violet uh paul yes
1:09:56chris yes uh alex you're gonna sustain uh caroline yes jason yes uh richard yes vic yes john yes measure passes um what's the next one we had uh the administrative for 45 000. you may have another restriction you had already taken that out of the total yeah but you didn't vote on it yeah but we have the madison uh deed restriction too filing 405 105 can i have a motion
1:10:41uh oh what is it for john i'm sorry the um madison uh number five fire police station uh we need a hundred lengths i'll make a motion for a hundred and five dollars filing fee for the massasoit uh firehouse that's okay second yes chris yes uh alex yes caroline yes uh jason yes uh richard yes vic yes and john yes okay and can i have a motion for um was it administrative uh for 45 000
1:11:26i'll make a motion for forty five thousand for administrative got a second that okay roll call vote paul yes uh chris yes alex yes caroline yes uh jason yes uh richard yes uh vic yes and john yes okay um so i guess uh i need a motion to suspend funding but before before you finish can we just confirm all the totals so that we're all on the same page so my spreadsheet has a total of funding
1:12:131845490 184590 nope one million eight hundred and forty five thousand four hundred and ninety dollars i just wanna make sure my figures are the same as everybody else's because that's the figure if everyone agrees to this is what's going on the appropriation order that will go to the mayor and the city council for approval vote
1:12:51so if you want to just review your projects um if i can for a minute father kelly pulls at 400 000.
1:12:59the westport extension 297 605. the barnabas blossom workshop restoration 138 175 the copercut reservoir water supply land acquisition 230 the central fire station and fire museum bonding for five years 228.089 dr fesqued filing 105 greater florida art association 79 210 saint ann's historic church 150 605 and the massasoya um fire at 105 administration at 45 the 10-year bond on the bio reserve 78 000
1:13:44and the housing reserve at 198 596.
1:14:46i got the same total funded as you sandy okay thank you alex what was the number one million eight hundred and forty five thousand four hundred and ninety dollars totally not what i got there i don't know why same here i get the same thank you victor i'm sorry can you give me the total one more time sandy yeah one million eight hundred and forty five thousand four hundred and ninety and i can read
1:15:25through those figures again if anyone needs me to okay so and that leaves us with three hundred six thousand five hundred nine in reserve essentially yes yes and then don't forget um you have still from previous years 2750 in open space recreation and then in community housing with this year's you'll have 249 190.
1:16:01i should remind their committee that i think two of the approved projects have matching grants applications in so we might also get more money back too yes yeah one of mike's projects i believe is one correct alex i remember the copaca land matching grant and then the rail trail has a mass trails grand i believe
1:17:33does everyone come up the same total i'm still doing it already
1:17:51somewhere i'm missing something want me to go over it again kristin if you could yeah okay um father kelly pulls 400 000 yeah westport extension 297 yeah bottavis blossom workshop restoration 138175 yeah the land acquisition 230 yeah the central fire station and the fire museum 228089 yeah dr fisk 105 yeah the art association 79210 yeah saint ann's 150 605. yeah uh massasoit 105. yeah the administration 45 yeah
1:18:51the uh 10-year bond 78 yeah 78 000 yeah yep and then the housing is 198596 now under that blue box i have a total you should have 45 000 in one box the administration historic preservation should have five nine six two eight nine um open space and recreation should have one million five thousand oh community housing should have 198.596 and then the total across that will hit 1845490
1:19:47i'll bet you got 198596 no i got 1617401 but i'm still confused about what how you're getting all right hang on
1:20:10i'm going to tally up my five so there's a difference i know i added 2 2 8 08 9 in here but for whatever reason it's coming out as a difference of 2 to 8 08 9 and i did it twice let me try it one more time
1:20:57did everybody else come out with that figure
1:21:16it's got to be me if you guys are all coming out with the same thing so i'm just doing it one more time
1:21:45okay one one eight four five four ninety one eight four five four ninety yep you got it okay all right all righty so can i have a motion to suspend uh uh funding i'll make a motion i'll second alrighty roll call paul yes chris yes alex yes caroline yes uh jason yes uh richard yes uh vic yes and yes for me alrighty um any new business business can i have a motion can i just i'm sorry
1:22:44john i don't mean to interrupt um but who's going to follow up with the art association to let me know if they can get something in writing for me um if they want to go ahead with that project and write out exactly what the amount is and what it's going to cover do you want me to do that i can i can reach out all right yeah and if they can
1:23:07give us something in writing because as soon as i get that then i can um start the process and get the information i've still got to do the final report now okay so so it's 7 79 79 210 correct and that includes the um drafting of the deed and the filing for 605.
1:23:35okay so that includes the 605 okay
1:23:45okay i and i just want to thank everybody for their patience um through this process i appreciate it looks like we got year 10 down so um it's wow if we pass some good projects this year so we did a i think a nice job so give yourself a round of applause so uh does anybody have any uh thing to mention before we take a motion to adjourn yes i'd like to have all of
1:24:17us at least say a moment of silence for all the people in ukraine for all what's going on over there and uh wish them the best so we can get this war over what
1:24:36thank you you're welcome all right can i have a motion to adjourn i'll make a motion to it john second second second okay meeting adjourned no roll call oh broke up keep doing that jumping ahead here uh paul yes chris yes alex yes caroline yes uh jason yes richard yes uh vic yes and john brent yes okay meeting your turn thank you thank you