The Fall River Park Board held a regular meeting on April 6, 2022, at 5:15 p.m., addressing a variety of community requests and park maintenance issues. Commissioners accepted the minutes from the March 2, 2022 meeting and approved a Pre-Memorial Day candlelight vigil at the Bicentennial Park Vietnam Wall Memorial on May 28, 2022. A significant discussion revolved around a request from Nuno's Ice Cream Shop to place picnic tables in Ruggles Park, which was approved on a trial basis through the fall, with the condition that the city be added as an additional insured on the business's policy and tables be inspected. This decision passed with a 5-0 roll call vote. Other key approvals included the installation of two new scoreboards at Kennedy Park Little League, the Greater Fall River Recreation's annual "Kickoff to Summer" event at Ruggles Park on June 18, 2022, and a community block party by New Life South Coast Church on August 13, 2022, with the park location to be finalized. The board also approved the removal of old play equipment from Lafayette Park, a park cleanup by the United Methodist Church at North Park, and the installation of "Little Libraries" at Father Kelly and Highland Parks by Nature's Medicine as a pilot program. A request for metal detecting in city parks was denied due to past issues with digging. The Department of Health and Human Services received approval to install vaccine clinic signs in various parks and islands, with locations to be determined by staff and the City Council notified for islands. The purchase and anchoring of two new soccer goals for Tabasso's Park were also approved. A lengthy and passionate debate occurred regarding the awarding of field permits for the 2022 season, as several leagues were still missing required paperwork. The board ultimately approved all permits pending, with Ms. Smith holding them until all proper documentation is submitted. The board committed to revisiting the issue in the May meeting for any non-compliant leagues, with the possibility of pulling permits. Finally, the board approved soliciting bids and using Perpetual Care funds, estimated at less than $4,000, to repair a damaged stonewall at the Locust Street side of the cemetery and approved the removal of two overgrown trees at Valentine and Reading Street.
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okay i called this uh regular meeting of the city uh four of apocalypse commissioners into order april uh wednesday april 6 2022 at 5 15 p.m at the city council hearing room roll call of commissioners amber burns victor farias helen rigo joseph de silva commissioner of soviet uh sylvia is not here yet
0:35everyone stand please assault the flag pledge allegiance to the flag
0:54i'd like to take this time to have a moment of silence for the people in ukraine
1:07thank you pursuit into the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible alrighty acceptance of uh the minutes from the
1:43march 2nd 2022 meeting i make a motion except uh minutes from march 22nd 2nd march 2nd march 2nd sorry second of uh farris made the motion second invite commissioner all in favor say aye hi citizen input do we have any citizen input any correspondence sent to us for citizen department no okay new business uh i have a motion to uh take item f out of order so can i get a commit uh
2:19to take item f out of order oh i make a motion though we take uh f out of water second second uh commission nefarious made the motion to take item f out of order second invite commissioner rigo all in favor say aye aye okay item f pre-memorial day event at bicentennial park vietnam wall memorial duval street on 5 28 2022 from 7 30 to 8 30 p.m have anybody here to talk about this come on
2:47up to the microphone please state your name and address for the record my name is bill demaris i live at 22 altis street uh representing the four war veterans council as an event coordinator with me is the commander robert gunnin of the war veterans concert will give you requests yes robert geinen uh commander of wall council my address is 258 savoy street forever
3:24state uh what would you like to do okay well um the world forward veterans council has partnered with the rolling thunder which is as you know rolling through the national organization and they take care of the wall and they also keep alive the member of pws mias the day before sunday saturday night we like to go there and candlelight vigil not candles we're not going to set things on fire we're going
3:50to use flashlights or phones or whatever just just to you know put light on the whole situation the day before uh we have like a contract with the city and sadly before we're going to wash the whole wall down washed it and clean up the whole area so that sadly it's all ready you have any questions for the commissioners no interest i'll let the iraqi state commissioner sylvia is here now so we
4:14have all five commissioners so i make a motion to grant this uh no no other questions or emotions do i have a motion to uh approve this i think emotionally have a question man okay on memorial day on monday is monday we're celebrating on sunday uh when we come in from when the groups are joining us for thunder come in through 138 they're going to be stopping there to pay their respects lay a wreath and then
4:42come on do we need to get a special permit for that delete the wreath nancy not for the pot i don't know if you need any special we have all the city permits i have the mayor's office the police to bob and everybody else we are already signed up i want to make sure i want to make sure in case we need them from here that's all okay that's it
5:00all right uh do i motion to approve this motion second second commissioner faris made that motion seconded by commissioner regal all in favor say all right thank you all very much thank you thank you thank you veterans hey i'm going to go back to uh item a i'll make a motion to where you resume to uh back to your normal uh business yep okay commissioner ferris made that motion to resume to uh first item a
5:34second by commissioner rigo all in favor say hi hey item a request for putting in a picnic tables in ruggles park on seaberry street by nuno's ice cream shop is anybody here for that can you come up to the record please just your name and address steve cerio my property is at 270 it's no-no's by the way it means grandfather on italian okay so we talked with corporation council and that
6:05to see if there's any liability in there and then we had the concerns with the uh trash and everything who is going to be responsible what type of picnic tables and that well i talked to councillor pereira the building department they have is the uh outdoor seating that i went by your establishment to see where it's going to be you have significant amount of room on that sidewalk and everything on seaberry
6:29street that if you request with the building department and then they go before the council on that to give outdoor seating for you to put a couple of tables on the side of your building for the outdoor seating that they're doing for restaurants and everything now we'll probably be your best bet because if we open it up to have tables in a city park now it's a liability on the city and
6:50everything and then we're going to every single business that's close to our pocket is going to want to do this so we should no we understand that but it's kind of our ques catch 22. well they address your trash issue i'm going to handle that every bit of that trash is going to have my logo and name on it so i'm going to take care of it regardless of whether it's the existing
7:10picnic tables or any future ones that's that's not a magnanimous gesture on my part it's got my name on it so i'm going to clean that up and we do have a new picnic table that was just installed here it's just a little over in it so like i said we can't stop anybody from going in to you know enjoy the ice cream go over to the parks and everything uh
7:28and enjoy it and everything but my recommendation i don't know how the other commissioners feel i would think it's probably better off to request to put outdoor seating right on the side of your establishment unfortunately i can't do that i've got a walk-up window that's going to take all that this sidewalk's not that wide versus a giant park how does any other commissioners feel i agree
7:54it would open up a can of worms commissioner we got you have questions yes because i would say how come i don't get parked tables in hot park you know another park other parks are going to say well why can't we get more tables i mean i i personally disagree i feel like it would be beneficial for the city because i feel like that would bring more community people would come out more we
8:18would have more picnics when i was a kid we used to go to the park all the time for picnics that doesn't happen anymore um and i feel like that would be more inviting it would be more space for the residents to be able to not even necessarily for your business obviously it would it would be beneficial for your business but i think in general mutually beneficial for me and i think that it
8:34would be beneficial for the city um because like i said when i was a kid we used to go to park all the time and it would be nice to not have to sit on the grass and eat you could have tables and stuff um that is my take on it any other question commissioner after commissioner burns um we do things in the park to try and get people to use the box more often um
9:01a couple of picnic tables i don't think it's gonna be harmful um i think that uh i agree with christian events and uh you know bring more people to the park and probably never really wouldn't bother that park um with a new business like like that right the aircraft street would certainly be beneficial to the neighborhood more people in the park means more security in the park for the people who don't want to you know
9:33behave themselves i guess is the way to put it more people there more use more secure for its intended purpose i'm not i'm not against it um i i think the liability issue is minimum from what i'm reading uh from corporation council there is there is going to be liability with everything may i just interject there that liability of what you speak already exists whether there's one or four picnic tables
10:05the liability is the same because if there's not a picnic table there they're going to sit on the ground the liability doesn't change no but where i understand it is we the park the cable that's there already is our property it's installed in the ground if you're going to buy tables of your own you're going to put these are they're going to be wood in and you're going to
10:25just place them on the edge of the grass that's what i'm saying they're not going to be permanently installed that's correct so those are nice ones i'm not putting those up yeah those are expensive this is the thing concrete slabs and all that these are going to be his own personal tables that he wants to place on the city park correct however we have wooden picnic tables that are at kennedy park i
10:46don't have any wooden pick okay those that kind of down on the where the playground is no recycling not wooden tables they're not wooded no they're recycled here i apologize then i've sat on them and i thought they were wooden i think they're installed on the ground aren't they yes yeah everything all our tables are anchored that's why they're still there i think part of the liability in question is
11:11who's going to be responsible if he's gonna install the tables we've done this in the past with other things if you're understanding tables you're responsible for them why not if they get damaged and destroyed the city's not liable to re-embarrass you for sure exists as my property then absolutely i agree with you yeah uh like i said i'm not i'm not involved are they going to be taken
11:54the city can say that they're not liable for that but i mean in all honesty you could get this give this gentleman this whole thing on a pilot type program and if the trash becomes something that's some you know outrageous then we can see what we can come up with now whether the city will put picnic tables there i don't know i think when we do that the leagues put their own picnic tables at different
12:16sections of the city and they're responsible for them if they're damaged the leagues replace them so i think when we're gonna if we're gonna go to this point then that's the same liability i don't know that the city needs to put the tables there i think that if you're willing to put the tables there and understand that the city of fall river is not gonna be liable if they're carved into or
12:43then that's something that if we get to a point that the trash is just something that we go you know we contact you and we go listen you're gonna have to empty these bags and that's gonna happen whether there's picnic tables there or not exactly but i mean the picnic tables are gonna probably put the trash in that area and if that becomes a problem then we'll have to address it so my my suggestion would be
13:04on a temporary basis to probably allow this and hope that there's not an issue but have you under the understanding that if there is an issue we're going to have to address it again i have no issues with that mr perry has a question so he's uh the director of dcm thank you hi so we just wanted to um add a couple of things so it seems like we might be 2-2 with a swing vote here
13:28at some point so if you if you look a little closer at corporation council's opinion um you look at one obviously we want the tables to be in good condition um and safe um but to your point ms smith you know this will be an agreement between the park board and um i'm sorry what was your last name seriously mr cereal um the city would need to be added to mr cerio's insurance policy as an
13:56additional insurer that'd be something we would require from you um that you know you can do that through your insurance company uh and it would be at the board's sole discretion so if to ms smith's point again trash becomes an issue um they become debates as to whether somebody can use what you term your property in the park so if another group of individuals who may not be buying ice cream
14:21at that point i don't believe it would be your purview to be able to say hey get off the tables so my customers can say hopefully i'm way too busy to all right right so all i'm saying is these are types of things that may come up and at that point if the board wanted to revisit it you could um and i would say that maybe the board puts a stipulation that we inspect the tables before
14:39they're installed to make sure that they're safe and in good condition but those two things would be required um the fact that we would be listed on your the city of fall river would be listed as an additional insured on your policy and that the board has the discretion to end this agreement between uh mr cerio and and the the park board itself at any point so i don't know if that eases
15:03anybody's concerns or may lend some clarity to you know our liability in this being covered through our liability uh additionally insured on his policy so she wanted to add that to make it clear so everybody knows what the deal would be there i am i'm not opposed of doing what you had just said yeah i'm not giving it as a trial basis to see and let us weigh it
15:26out and see how it works and i'm not arguing for or against it's obviously the board's purview as to what you'd like to do i just wanted to be clear on some of the things we would require from mr cerio so if that makes your decision any easier that was the input i wanted to add are you fine with that yeah yeah absolutely i'm not looking to recreate the wheel
15:46here i want to play a couple of places for my uh my customers to sit i think my shop is going to benefit this park greatly as is it's going to benefit me so i'm not here saying i'm doing incredible things for the city i'm not well just so you know there is a food lunch program that takes place in that park every day during the week so just so you know
16:07there may be other people on those tables during that time and that's like mr perry referrals i'm more concerned about weekends and nights summer nights yep um okay all right do we have uh i make a motion to approve on
16:27like temporary but like throughout like revisit in the fall and see where we're at because i don't want to say a month and obviously it's not busy season for you necessarily yet so we could say you could say the fall or if there is a if there's a private issue problem that arises we will do it earlier than that i would say then um yeah so i make a motion to approve to revisit in the fall
16:48prior if there's any issues and to have the city master perry and mrs smith inspect the tables and also as the city as a secondary to the insurance i'm assuming that they would be brand new when you start if there's if that's a stipulation we should uh give him what we what our qualifications are for the tables if that's the case because we don't want him to go and buy them and
17:10then you go there and say oh wait these are not and again if you read the email down at the last paragraph mr theon mike dion from the community development agency has said that he may have money available to help you purchase some said tables and if he does yeah and that was reasonable concern with that is the leaks saying well we bought tables for him are we going to
17:30buy tables for this league are we going to buy tables for that league and that was my concern with that one thing so if mr cerio is willing to do that we don't cross that bridge at all so if he's willing to pay for those tables i mean down the road we can do that if we're going to put them everywhere but i think we're going to run into a little bit of an issue ah i
17:48agree well all right i i yeah i think that if this i feel like we're at the point where the city of fall river have these business owners that want to put these certain things in place that's the best if if we can if the city can't help them then we should like i understand you it's going to open the can of worms with well we'll cross that bridge when we get
18:08there but this is something that i think if if there are funds to help then we should do that um yeah that's that's my take on it i just feel like we need to move forward as a city and this is one way to get there the neighborhood's going to come up i saw i grew up in ruggles park and i bothers me every day that i go by there and there's literally nothing going on
18:30in that park three weeks yeah so i grew up in that park played bal softball my entire life so um so yes my motion has been made second second question yes commissioner um if cga is going to provide funds for this project i i agree with miss smith that you could open up kennywood with other organizations um i don't think they should be handled on a case by case basis but instead of presidents now then
19:05you know i hate the world and use the word discrimination but if we do it for one you gotta go for everybody else it says money's available um i would like to know what monies are available i know cda you said well you know what how about you know before we get going a dollar amount so we know how much can be provided if if there's just that phone numbers out as an example if there's
19:3550 000 available and he only needs to use seven of it at least forty three thousand dollars to you know use elsewhere for other organizations so we're not signaling everybody out and everybody's getting an opportunity to have their issues so cda cea is is its own entity um it's it's quasi city but not run by the city mr dion um reports directly to the mayor but is funded federally uh i i don't believe he
20:10has as you say possibly a part of money fifty thousand aside for something like this each business owner or individual for that amount of cancer listen cda for funding for whatever their particular project is um and i will say this as far as the canon warden's opening i deal with mr dion all the time and cda extends a lot of funds uh to the board to the parks to dcm
20:38uh so i just i'm the little lost for how as a business owner john to to michael is mike put in the next parks well i would imagine he would go his business on it oh then then i did not that's absolutely that's why i was i'm sorry that's what i was trying to say dion had money to put in parks and i think that's what no i found this yeah that's right
20:59to business owners then that's business owners or however else they spend their money but it wasn't that wasn't made clear in the the corporation yeah i would just when it comes to money i'd like to know you know teeth got the eyes don't speak and you know i have concerns when we talk about we have money and you know because this board does get a lot of money from different places and we have a lot of
21:28projects that we're responsible for and i think that we all we should know like i said crossing the tees and thought in the eyes where every dime comes from and how we're spending it that's that's the only concern i have with the cga money and i agree with you they spend a lot of their funds in the parks different projects and they're very helpful to the sport and i totally agree with that are you
22:00all right so do i have that motion you don't make it again yeah um can i make a motion to approve on a trial basis through the fall and we will revisit if anything pops up second in by commissioner who made commit uh commissioner burns made that motion seconded by commissioner paris all in favor say aye hi actually do you want to do a roll call but since it was yeah commissioner sylvia yes
22:30christmas yes mission nefarious yes commissioner rico yes i'll say yes so it's thank you thank you thank you all right item b john patella to address the board scoreboard installations at kennedy park little league middle street john just state your name and address all you're affiliated john patel 86 woodman street fall river come in front of the board um we had a board meeting on monday
23:09and like i said i wanted to replace one scoreboard well we went over our funds and we raised enough to replace both boards at kennedy park um i have a licensed electrician that will when the time comes and we do this project he will be there to tie the boards in correctly um there's there's already existing wires already to the boards it's just going to be a matter of putting the new boards up
23:34and just having them wired up and ready to go do you have any questions commissioners no when you you have the volunteer that's going to do this dave the limit you're going to have uh the city's if i need to have it done you know with a permit and you know inspect it then that's what i'll do why don't we wait for mrs smith to come back in mr smith the question was asked if he
24:01has a volunteer to do this of electricity go ahead what miss smith he had just stated that he has an electrician that wants to do the two squad boards he wants he was originally going to do one but he wants to do both scoreboards they raised enough funds to do both scoreboards commission nefarious asked if the licensed license that volunteers does that does it have to be inspected
24:25by the city inspector i need to pull a permit uh that's something you'd have to ask the building department okay whatever i need to do i'll i mean i'm going to do it correctly and 100 right i think your electrician would have to go to the building department and i already spoke to him and he said most hundred percent he would have to pull a permit and okay so all right so that solves that problem uh
24:53do you have any other questions right so well is there gonna be uh any names or anything going just going to put the boards up right now we may talk about you know the names afterwards but right now i just want to get the new scoreboards up okay all right any other questions or concerns for permissions there's a name on one in the little league field do we know who he is that was my
25:20question when mr patel asked me i don't even know who this man is yes okay do we have anybody from his family that we could contact or because the scoreboard actually should have been through time you did that but i can if you want to research it to contact them um the long-standing member of the league was volunteer for probably 25 30 years right my only concern is if they if he put that or
25:50they named that scoreboard then after him they're removing that scoreboard and now the new scoreboard is being funded by all new people so he may be able to be included because it's almost like you're removing it's not like you're naming a pocket removing a physical object so i don't know that we would necessarily or he would have to necessarily keep that name because technically that scoreboard is being
26:15removed as a courtesy he could include him in the whatever i don't know if he puts a group or but i don't know that you can i mean we've taken down other things scoreboards and i haven't put anything back i will uh try and get mr patel all the information from the candidate and i think uh when i spoke to mr patel about this he had stated that because i there was a concern about
26:42somebody had asked me about the small boards that donated the money and i asked him who's gonna any names or sponsors going on these scoreboards he said possibly the only thing that was going to be the friends of federal baseball league which i don't think that's a problem that covers everybody because if there was any like there's we you should know commissioner sylvia you've been on the board for no
27:05marijuana no tattoos no piercing nothing like that can sponsor anything in city parks because of the age it's our pockets that's uh we didn't make these rules that was made prior boards so that's why i think if for our friends of the federal baseball little league i don't i wouldn't have a problem with that on some on the side so i get in the one that sylvia is talking about uh i had a licensed
27:31uh electrical engineer went take the motherboard out of it brought it to a shop and because of how old it is they can't even get parts for it so you know nice replace the boards i mean it's nice to have for the kids when this game is going on you know the kids can't see the school and i'd say if there was a problem in the future with that family member that
27:54family that person could easily add the sign that that name back on that one later well this this boards board will have to change their ruling because the board's rule on a scoreboard is one name or friends of it's not a list of names so the board if they were going to do that and put two names they would have to change their ruling that they have on file of
28:15one name on the scoreboard well i would say is if it was you said it was the little league fail right it's going to be the little league field and then you're going to have the senior field so i would say if there was a problem we'd have to take you'd have to take the federal little league off the federal uh friends of federal off the little league side put that gentleman's name back on that that
28:34new sign if there was an issue and then just keep friends of federal on the senior field okay i would think to let jeff try to track down the family it may not even be anybody yeah i understand he's you know he did a lot for the league um i don't remember the gentleman unfortunately um you know there are a lot of people that have raised money for this for these boards
28:58um and i already said it at the last fundraiser that i can't name this board after a certain person who made this fundraiser because of her husband who passed away she's the one that made this last fundraiser and it was a big fundraiser and i told her straight that i cannot name that board after your husband so and we've talked about it as the board directors and everything and that's what i came up with you
29:24i don't know how those commissioners feel i feel it's a good thing they're doing something for the league and everything i don't want to offend anybody taking someone's name absolutely i think it's a good thing for the kids so how the rest of you guys feel i mean i think we should just have him try and or someone try and contact the family i mean they may be fine with you removing it maybe somebody would want
29:49the sign like i don't know what the actual thing looks like but um but obviously they need to be replaced so i feel like that's the matter and make sure we replace them and then we can revisit the name or figure that out after um but obviously this is going to be done right away anyways yeah i mean i waited to come in front of the board before i even ordered these scoreboards yep so okay
30:14so do we have uh any other questions or concerns from commissioners do we have permission to he had uh requested one but he wanted two now so uh request to get permission to put both and uh have his electrician and everything work with the city to pull up him and install them i'll make a merch motion to do what he has to do yep commissioner uh commissioner rigo sorry mission of
30:40sylvia ii all in favor say aye hi thank you thank you if you can just stick around for like stuff later thank you thank you all right um item c requests from greater fall river recreation the use of ruggles park seabury street on saturday june 18 2022 from 9am to 3pm no problem gracious state your name in oh you're here grace girling executive director of greater fall river recreation
31:18our agency has sponsored the kickoff to summer for at ruggles park for over 25 years uh unfortunately for two years we weren't able to have it and we'd like to make it bigger and better um we have a lot of community agencies that participate uh we'll have a rock wall um some fun games for the kids domino's pizza always co-sponsors with us and we run a basketball tournament for kids
31:50it's always been a huge success we take care of the trash we've never had any issues we've actually extended it for uh an additional hour this year it used to be eleven to two now it's eleven and three i included the setup um we usually break down pretty quick so we'll probably be out of the park no later than probably 3 30 or so and the other thing is we usually put up a sign every year
32:17so the neighborhood knows that it's coming it's usually that same weekend every single year the day before father's day um any questions or concerns from the commission commissioner sylvia um maybe mrs smith can answer this question how was the condition of the rooms and backboards and the basketball court over there we go around every week so we just fixed some at highland this week so as far as
32:45i know this decent unless you got any complaints at the police department i don't know about i know i haven't been mined in a while that's why i'm asking so yeah in twenty well we've we've had him in the past we did it and i don't want you to show up that day and you know right we i usually communicate with uh mrs smith and um go over a few things prior to the event
33:10so uh if there's an issue well i have no problem with this so as mrs gilland said this you know it's a yearly event that's been going on since i've been on the board and i'll make a motion i got i got one question for us to be fine uh miss smith just so that way we don't get no uh complaints from anybody else that's come before us before rock climbing is that considered like the
33:37bounce house i know i've never had it addressed i've had it in the past and to be honest with you yeah this is a pseudo city agency so as far as i'm concerned i just want to make sure they don't have the same restrictions as an outsider yeah i don't have a bounce house i do have like a um i rented a obstacle course a small obstacle course a blow-up basketball
34:02hoop thing for the kids to play with and then um received some extra funds and i was able to secure a rock wall from carabiners in new bedford so we just want to make sure because we've had to deny other people for bounce houses and everything for events no i totally understand no problem grace has the policy too insurance yeah and i can also i can include uh the city and um the park board and
34:28i'm sure on the certificate of liability if you need to i'm sure the vendor has a license to a liability also so oh yeah definitely 100 you wouldn't be able to travel with it if you didn't have it all right uh any other questions permissions okay commissioner sylvia making that motion second bye hey commissioner silvia made that motion second about commissioner rigo i'm uh commissioner faria sorry all in favor
34:55say hi hi thank you okay thank you have a great night all right item d request from new life south coast church to use kennedy park bradford avenue and uh for a community block party on 8 13 2022 from 9am to 7pm is anybody here for that yes come on up just state your name and address what a record uh laura bradley and should i include the um church's address yeah okay so um
35:34new life south coast at martin middle school 1135 north main street okay oh just right i i did originally send out an email for the request of kennedy park i there sent another email just asking if we could instead use maplewood park if that was a possibility um if that was a possibility for us to use for the block party last year we were approved we had the block party at brooklyn park because we had
36:12a soccer tournament and we did have a basketball tournament as well and this year we're not doing the soccer um tournament obviously because of the parks that we chose but we are still going to have a carnival for the children like we did last year it is a back to school um like uh back to school dry um sorry back to school backpack school supplies and other basic items
36:46that we are also giving out last year we gave out a bag of groceries and we gave out certain clothing and also we handed out lunch as well in the park we did have music i did speak with all of the people that we needed for the permits so we were approved it went it was successful there was no trash a cleanup was successful um so i don't know if you have any other
37:18questions for me i have a question this is a saturday oh you're starting where abouts in maple what are you looking to do this um so um towards the the top like whereabouts because you understand that's the biggest baseball league that we have in the city dan that pocket is going to be loaded with families that day oh they that's the biggest baseball field baseball league we have in the city
37:46they're very active so all that parking is going to be tight over there to hold another event there that's probably going to be impossible okay all right kennedy probably would be probably be a best bet okay we will stay with kevin d park yep is there not something already that weekend in august the feast is the feast i thought the feast was that weekend no the feast is the week of the 28th
38:11and the 20th you got something there right the 28th is the the block party from briana so this would be the weekend before gotcha okay and during the block party the feast will be setting up all that week to lead to the feast and then have to take down afterwards now when you say carnival what do you mean by carnival um it isn't a carnival um like the ring circus thing it's just little kids like
38:38we have games and they do um coloring and you know just little
38:52not a convo with the elephants and all of that stuff yeah all right um whichever part you want to give us we'll take that would be most conducive for children and their safety i would suggest um maybe going to the park and walking through because we we did a um i was a part of the block party last year that's what we did we went through walk through to figure out what exactly it is that we
39:24needed yeah and then look at what the space is so if you like we needed the basketball court so we were on this side but if you and i'm assuming you need the basketball courts as well but if you didn't the other side may be more beneficial so it i guess it just depends on what you would need um so i would walk through the park and see um because you did say you will have
39:41basketball or well we did last year if it was available then we would certainly include it we had to have it last year brooklyn but wouldn't it be down wouldn't it be better off down here where the playground is for the children the playground is under the lower half yeah that's the big inclusion playground in that yeah that would be basketball the basketball courts right across the
40:06street on the opposite side with the two baseball fields that mr patel runs his league okay and they would also be playing their games on saturdays there too so and then we have is in front in the behind the baseball fields is all that big grass area that the holy ghost features he sets up my suggestion also she can look at ruggles where grace is having that in june because that has a
40:28basketball court that has an open area that has ruggles is in the center of the city um pine street if i'm not sure if you're familiar if you go up robinson street yeah this so if if we're talking august you got a little ways to go and again i hate to be the one to bring this up but this board had a rule that there would be one event in a park
40:55per month so as not to have the same neighborhood without parking without whatever and i think kennedy park is pretty active during the month of august so it may be in our best interest if they could find another park because then you're breaking your own rule again so i i would suggest if your group wants to just take a couple you know take a look around at some other parks maybe even um
41:26north park has a basketball court and a playground there i mean i would just look at a couple of different parks and then maybe send an email back to this board you might not have to come back in just as far as the location would be that would be my suggestion because one i think kennedy is just between feasts and car shows or whatever the other one festival or whatever we got a lot going
41:48on down there was in may though no but i'm just saying in august i think i think just start off with exactly what your plan is exactly what it is that you want to do um and then yeah i think um basically if we don't have the basketball that's fine um i understand now with on the ruling as far as too many activities within um one park in one neighborhood so perfectly understand that um check
42:19out ruggles i think it may fit your needs very well because there is a basketball court up on the hill there's some open area down below there's a playground and it's a pretty big open space so okay we might take a look at that and just get back to me and i can relay the information to the board and there's an ice cream shop right there well that was the other thing um
42:44we would like to have food trucks um i know that i did speak with the health department and um they had lifted all restrictions so if we needed to grill because i know like um a few years ago we used to do rock the city and um we used to grill hot dogs and that and you know that was never a problem but right the health department doesn't have the restriction of the
43:14grill this board has the restriction of the grill because you have we don't say that you can't grow because cd rec again they they rent a commercial grill we just say that you can't bring in your own house household grills or choco grills or whatever if you rent a commercial grill then it's insured it's it's got to be inspected by a number of people before i can travel so that is something that this board does
43:42not have a ruling over but regular grills like people saying oh we can bring five grills there and cook hot dogs that they don't allow that but commercial grills they do okay so that would be something that and this uh this event would have to go with one of our civic events for them anyway where you went around for the sign-offs yeah the different departments yes they would be able to tell you what regulations you
44:08needed to follow as far as having that kind of growth yeah we did that last year and then the thing is with food trucks if you have i have food trucks ruggles the only place i would say because seabury street is only one side parking with the neighborhood there and the ice cream shop cherry street is another one side parking the only one that has two-sided parking would be the pine tree side so i
44:30would right if we're gonna have food trucks they would have to be parked on the street trucks cannot go on the sidewalks they're not thinking and they can't go inside the block okay so they can't go inside no they would have to be on the street okay and there is space for them on the street the pine tree side would be the pine street because it's double sided okay we did have um
44:55a police officer there last year at brooklyn um okay so would the date and the timing be approved and just wait on i would say tentatively approved we'd look like we wouldn't you'd have to get back me with the next week or so which park you think is fine but they the board can hold these dates aside we can even say tentatively at ruggles i mean i don't think yeah nothing's going to be
45:22approved other than next month so as long as you come back to us with a place oh yes i could definitely do that okay and you should have to work with you for the civic forum yeah and then uh you know there's a hundred and twenty-five dollar park fee to use the park tonight okay and then uh you should have to have a portage on there or not by the health department okay we did
45:47last year okay yeah all right so do we have a tentative agreement to give her that date and work with mr smith over all all the formalities and that and then um let us know what the where she requested what path to be used when she decides which box you got to use okay commissioner rigo made the motion second by commissioner burns all in favor say hi all right thank you very much you're welcome all right
46:20item e is a request to remove pieces of plate equipment from lafayette park easton avenue i guess i'm gonna have mrs smith fill us in about this this was just an old very old piece of play equipment much like was removed for damaris it's like a looks like a big giant piece of cheese or whatever big giant hut and when they had a carnival there they had to move it to the basketball courts and we were
46:53going to move it back but it never got moved back it stayed there and evidently it's causing an issue for this gentleman who walks through the park so rather than move it back you know when i receive the information from the mayor's office i'm like i don't think it's serving any purpose perhaps it can be completely removed because if they're hanging in it over here and you move it to there what's to
47:14say they're not going to hang in in it again and it's just a very very old i would say 30 years old it's like a clay piece it almost looks like concrete that's smoothed out so if the board wants to move it or remove it motion to remove before we made that motion can your department handle that yeah so mrs perry he's gonna make that uh take care of that uh commissioner sylvia made that motion uh
47:50uh commission nefarious second they're all in favor say aye aye aye thank you
47:59okay item g request from the united methodist church clean up at north park highland avenue on april 10 11 30 at 11 30 am we skipped oh we went out of order you weren't going for that yeah i know you're fine sorry yeah we took item half out of auto when you are here sorry uh so this is pretty self-explanatory they want to do a cleanup day at the top of north park i think that's good
48:29i think anybody has any questions um just for the public record people don't have to ask permission to clean up the parks correct no but she wants bags and tools i believe that she gets from public works so that's when they have to ask okay permission okay so i've done several different part cleanups and we've always just contacted the mayor's office and he does that we've i didn't know that that is
48:51something that would need to come to the board so that's good to know in general i guess normally if they want to clean a park they would because john normally supplies the tools and the bags and whatever so in order for us to know and to go back there on a monday to take what they leave because if we don't know they're having a cleanup in a park and then there's 25 bags on the
49:14curb we got to know that we got to go get them on monday okay is there just be for the summer coming like i said just so this is out there is there a way to expedite this so that somebody doesn't have to like wait a month to plan it or is it is that i know like i don't know if that's like annoying for you but um like if somebody wants to do like let's
49:34say somebody randomly decides they want we had contact with her and she didn't have a problem finding out you know i was in contact with her so but i just said we would just put it before the board at quote unquote as a formality yeah but we didn't think that there would be a problem with anybody offering to clean up an area no no i'm not saying but i'm saying going forward if somebody
49:53decides they want to do a cleanup is that something that they have to come to us or can they just contact the office to do it like is everyone on the board okay with mrs smith and and mr perry just like approving that so that it doesn't have to come to us amber this also helps the person that's putting this together because then they can get more volunteers if they know
50:11there's a cleanup no but what i'm saying is somebody can go on facebook and say hey we're doing a cleanup but it doesn't shouldn't have to come to the board they should be able to contact them they say yes we'll supply everything and then they can still put it out there like no offense not that many people watch these board meetings but what i'm saying is it would save time
50:30for the people to not have to come to the board to ask permission to clean the park right but they still would have to correct yes yes they would still tell you guys but it shouldn't have to come to us so as long as it's it's okay with the board and mrs smith and i work together on a number of things every day so as long as it's okay with the board
50:49and ms smith knows the schedules in the park so it won't conflict with anything i don't have a problem doing that yeah that was my um hell and that's i just want to make sure it's okay with you guys that it doesn't have to come to us every time yeah i would just say is like if you want the next meeting if there was like any other cleanups in that just update the board
51:08yeah that we had hey someone so did this pocket someone said just give us a little work yeah we could probably just do that via email right now it doesn't have to i don't have that no problem okay i think it's a good gesture people want to help out and clean up that's a good thing for us absolutely uh commissioner burns i'm going to say yeah yeah commissioner seconded it
51:30all in favor oh actually uh let's make that let's make the motion to approve this and then we'll yep so i make a motion to approve this and then for future park cleanups it does not necessarily have to come to the board it's within the discretion of mr perry miss smith and they can update us via email it doesn't have to be like a formal board meeting situation one second uh
51:56okay second by commissioner rigo uh so commissioner burns made that motion second by commissioner rigo all in favor say aye thank you thank you mr perry sorry uh one other thing before we start uh do this if we can miss smith or something uh if we can just send like a thank you letter to these groups that do help us out and clean up enough just saying thank you from the board absolutely thank you
52:27uh item h request from health first for a walkathon on the rail trail quicker shan street that's been withdrawn a bit more drawn
52:44okay anyone have to make a motion on that or can we just no you just okay i mean you can okay do you wanna no i didn't look for a formality i didn't have no problem no problem i don't think so okay should we no they sent in a letter earlier today saying that they were withdrawing there okay request so i think that was efficient no problem all right uh item i request from the sorry
53:14sorry and i want to butcher this looks good francisco square wreath laying ceremony on may 1st at east main street and then we also have a second item on this uh for maintenance water line installation at square on east main street somebody here come on up and uh just state your name and our address on what you're here for my name is brian kurt i live at 118 east main street i'm president of the kosciuszko club
53:47and we're the ones who have for the past previous 35 or 40 years have been having a replaying ceremony on the first sunday in may at the park um and i'm at i'm per discussions i've had in the past mr smith i am i sent a request for permission to do it we'll be laying a wreath of father rob from the polish national catholic church is going to say a prayer and i saw mr
54:14damaris earlier and i admit we may have him um release doves and play taps the christian school clubs have a meeting this coming sunday so we'll discuss whether we um contact mr damaris but i only heard about that today so that's what we're planning on doing um and as far as the water line thing we'll we'll let's speak on first okay yes and we'll vote on that and then we'll discuss the second item
54:37okay so any questions concerns from uh i know this is the annual event right yes promotion to grant permission commissioner sylvia made that motion second second by commission nefarious all in favor say okay item one is approved uh so item two is uh the maintenance of the water line installation at square if you can explain i know not the rest of the commissioners are involved i'm the chairman so i'm part of
55:07the chain of emails they go back and forth between you ms smith mr perry and everybody else is involved so they're just they just hear about this the first time and everything but uh go ahead explain and then after we'll fill in um when the monument was uh done as part of the streetscapes for east main street uh there was an existing water shut off and the city installed a standpipe i guess whatever you want to
55:32call it so that i or any other member of the club can connect the host to it and water the flowers that we usually plant there prior to the ceremony and i also uh water the trees that are there the new leaf plant the trees and the the shrubs and unless it's it's been a fair amount of rain the problem happened sometime in mid-december i was on my way to somewhere and saw water in the street
55:54and i thought there was a problem but i was had to get somewhere and then i got a call on my cell phone from someone who i believe said they were supervised a foreman for the parks department informing me that the pipe had frozen and the water department had to shut off the water to it and it was december and i didn't worry about it because i knew they couldn't do
56:11anything until the warm weather and i contacted mr smith a few a few weeks ago and asked for the status of it and she would she indicated she wasn't aware that anything was being done on it but and then we had a discussion about who was supposed to do and i i don't i'm a citizen i don't know who's supposed to do i was just asking her if she was
56:32aware that someone was in the process of fixing it and um i i didn't i found out that apparently um that there wasn't a plan to fix it and since the club plants flowers at the monument last year cost us i think was 480 i don't want to plant the flowers if it can't get fixed uh prior to the ceremony because they'll die within a week and it's too much i mean i can schlep the
56:59water there but it's i'm not getting any younger and it's a lot of water and i wouldn't know would depend on how long it would take for them to do it otherwise i won't plant flowers like i did um ah a couple of i think this uh that was last year there was one year i think just uh just when the the pandemic started we didn't plant flowers because i think that was the
57:20year we didn't have a ceremony but um so my purpose here is to determine if there's a process for someone in the city government to repair that so that i can utilize it to one of the flowers that we that we usually plant okay so mr smith or mr perry like to address this um i'll speak on on her piece first i have some information as far as the repair yeah i
57:44know there might be some backstory i had contacted mr furlin and you know unfortunately he wasn't responsible we weren't responsible but we came to an agreement that at this point the border line needs to be fixed so not the interrupt can you just i don't know if everybody knows who mr furland is he's from the water department so i mean we didn't know the you know that the water department didn't turn it
58:10off everybody was under the impression that they were the ones taking care of that so water under the bridge we're trying to come to a conclusion of let's just get this fixed we'll worry about the who's going to be responsible for the shut off or the whatever after the fact so i had spoken to mr furland last week i did send him another email this week about having our people meet out there i
58:33haven't heard back yet so maybe that's what john's going to update on that is correct so i i followed up with mr frelin um and he was gracious enough to offer his assistance i spoke to his foreman today we are going to meet on site tomorrow to take a look at what it would take to do the repair they're going to help us with this but again i agree wholeheartedly at
58:54some point we need to decide if this is going to be something we're going to ask because square club um if they're you know going to winterize the system when when that season's over much like we do with some of the other leagues but that's a conversation we can have down we'll start with the inspection tomorrow see what the repair will take water department will help us with that
59:14mr kirk can have his event if the board approves it and uh and we'll go from there okay any other questions concerns commissions okay commissioner sylvia um mr fabio where then there's other issues with things certainly um i'm wondering tomorrow i respectfully what that uh you know in the field of candy box gone on three years now they haven't had water and those wings always work on those fields and you know i
59:54it's becoming very frustrating um i know you got a lot on your plate i understand that you made a big department um but while we're talking about water i just want to refresh your memory but there's still a show fields at kennedy park that have not been addressed in three years uh are yourself or mr patella available tomorrow after three o'clock i am after three okay so um if you don't mind when
1:00:25you leave work tomorrow just give me a call uh and uh and i will head over there and meet up with you and we'll we'll continue he's available as well okay perfect so okay so tomorrow after three weeks after today he'll be so maybe they just run up the road maybe with the water department uh i'll let them focus on one problem at a time i'll ask for one favor from the
1:00:50water department at a time but we can definitely meet up see if we can identify that particular exactly the big field hasn't been repaired i would just caution where we're kind of getting off yeah though items we don't need open meeting lawsuits exactly thank you mr prairie you have to stay on on topic uh mr perry what time are you planning on uh on being a tomorrow there for this that depends on the foreman's
1:01:21availability if you'd like once i get a hold of him and find out what time works for him i can give you a call if you would because i'll make myself available because uh because i if you don't have a key to the box i do have a key to the box okay so if you need to open it and see it look inside mitch smith do you
1:01:34have a key for that box uh we did but i know mr pilaf from the water department has a key to the box okay if you could make a copy i've i've i've given nancy two of them as long as you have a key one went to the water department if you gave me two one went to them whether they gave them both i believe i still have one from what my
1:01:55conversations are but i know mr peeler from the water department has the other because the the krishna club bought the lock and provided the keys that we wouldn't have to worry about if somebody lost it having to go to the board to get a replacement so i just cut another key because i got the the original sorry i'll give you a call and i'm on my way good thank you about the board now i don't know
1:02:17so you understand that they're gonna do this and then in the future we'll have to probably you guys will have to decide if uh when we talk about if uh if you're going to be responsible to weatherize the night you'll probably have to decide that roger well yeah i that that's kind of for another day because i right now i want to get it fixed no no and that's what we're going to we're going to
1:02:37address that but i'm just letting you know in the future just probably be prepared that you're probably going to have to come back in here for that well okay we'll we'll address it at that time uh you know this is not the time but as long as it gets fixed because otherwise nothing can happen no problem okay all right so do i have a uh motion what would the motion be there's no emotion
1:03:02yeah we're just uh information to have us work with the water department you get that i don't think you need emotion but if you want to do that it's just a matter of just permission to give mr perry and mrs smith the network with the water department to address this matter yeah because they may have to dig out they may have to dig it up so yeah you're at least given permission to dig around if
1:03:21necessary okay the replaying ceremony yeah it was already very in miss smith with the water all in favor say aye hi thank you thank you okay item j requests from department of children and family foster care recruitment table at father kelly park globe street just come up here please sorry for holding you up good evening my name is roxanna trujillo i'm a foster parent recruiter for the department of children families
1:04:04the dcf area office address in fall river is 1822 north main street so i've been part of these emails and i think what she wants to do is have a table at the softball games uh to just recruit foster care parents and i think that's a great idea and i get more of the community involved for the kids in that so that's pretty much i was also wondering if the board
1:04:34would be able to provide me the contact information of the other directors of the leagues in the area so that i could connect with them as well and ask if it's possible you have mr uh patel i mean mr almeida from the far of youth soccer you have mr vining right here from four of a national hi baseball at dumont field and you have mr patel right here the president of kennedy park uh federal
1:05:01little perfect and they're all here for their permits today for approval so thank you i asked for them to get exchange information with them excellent so is the board voting then i'm assuming you want to go to these different locations is that what it is yeah so that's something the board would have to yeah are you going to come in one at a time or once you know yeah so basically what we do as foster
1:05:26parent recruiters we aim to raise awareness about the need for foster homes in our area specifically so i cover fall river area office right now i just met with my team last week and they we really want to focus on different sports um in the community because we feel like that's a great place to reach the parents and and the audience while you know the game the games are being played
1:05:55foster care is a big need right now in the community and we are looking for more foster families so yeah we like for example this weekend i have several events where we're like i have a large team and we actually are able to do um like two three events at a time so just so the board knows i consent once we have our list of contacts for this year's um leagues leagues
1:06:26i could send you their emails because i don't think that they would mind if everyone got an email and then once you touch base with them perhaps you could put a list together of where you want to go on certain dates and then that would come before the board okay they could all be in one like throughout the summer like you know you might you want to go here and this day
1:06:45here if you once you set up your schedule then i would say bring that all at once and you would be able to go because it's really not the league that gives you permission it's the board but you want to go when the league is actually playing so that you have the audience right so exactly yeah so our next meeting would be may 4th may 4th okay so if you got that
1:07:07information to mrs smith the week prior yeah you put the agenda myself in mr smith puts here the journey together the week prior or like that friday or monday of the meeting it's like the cut off definitely friday you've been putting a lot of money yeah i'm sorry this monday i had to put it to the end because of my schedule sorry but uh would i have to come back on may 4th
1:07:30no no you would just put the dates and everything because we already know what what you're doing and everything it's just where you want to be if you wanted to be at kennedy august 12th in maplewood june just put all that down for a summer schedule where you want to be after you contact you know worked with them and that and then we'll just approve it all to give you that so that way it's may so
1:07:52that way you'll have it for the whole season excellent okay thank you so much you're welcome uh so do we have uh any questions or concerns from any commissioners do i have a motion to approve this request i make a motion to approve it and second commissioner radio made that motion seconded by uh commissioner nefarious all in favor say aye aye aye so is the so the may 4th would we just
1:08:15be informed because we just approved it now is it more informational no you'd have to vote on it you'd have to vote on a date yeah that would be full on all her future dates and locations okay this one is just for father kelly okay and this is gonna be for the season or just one time for the season for the season okay are you going on a particular night
1:08:36so he provided me with the schedule i have to look at it and figure that out but if you could just let us know when you're going to be there just so we'll know okay that someone will go you know there's somebody here they don't belong here yeah exactly so just let me we might get phone calls okay uh so you're all set thank you just work with mrs smith on everything thank you thank you
1:09:04all right so item k requests from nature's medicine regarding the installation of little little libraries stationed as a pilot program in father kelly park on south main street and highland park robeson street your name and address my name is kaylee paxotto and the address of the dispensary is 482 globe street um my proposition today is to bring little libraries to the parks around
1:09:39fall river i have chose two right now father kelly and highland which i heard from nancy that were the least problematic the less least amount of phone calls that you get to go um and have to check them out whether that be paraphernalia whatever it is that is not so safe for kids so for the pilot program i'm asking for two little libraries they look like this to be put um in the parks of fall river
1:10:06um not all of them just those two for right now um and it's just i think literacy is very important well not just me this is a big thing okay but uh literacy is very important to everybody and it can be that bridge between poverty and success and just bringing literacy to a city where it could keep kids out of trouble like the kids walking home from school could grab a book and get
1:10:31themself immersed in a book and escape in another way besides trouble would be just nice to have and to be clear i know we did have a little thing no sponsoring by a marijuana business at the beginning we are not looking to put anything our names on it nothing we are just looking to again provide literacy for the fall river community that was going to be one of my first questions so great and i
1:10:55will have all of them monitored by our volunteers we all do 16 hours of community service a year um if anybody hits it i don't think they will but i will go and get those done myself i will keep those maintained and again i don't want anything in there that shouldn't be there um just again books and those will be provided by us as well now is it going to be like on a uh a
1:11:16ballroom system that they're supposed to bring it back or um i'll just take it and that's it you can take it take one leave one take it bring it back or you can just take it if you're in need of a book keep it awesome any other questions commissioners okay how big are these things so they are i'm so sorry uh they are two feet by the post itself was five feet and i think um
1:11:42it was 18 and 36. i think it's 18 inches up and then or 24 inches up and then 36 and 18. it's like two or three feet oh yeah it looks like probably like a little mailbox or something yeah yeah just like a little mailbox type thing full of books yeah i'm sorry i really don't have the dimensions listed with me but i believe it was 24 18.
1:12:06sorry
1:12:15but again yes no nature's medicine we want to decorate them to be something kids want to go to like dr susie like hey colorful check out literature no are you going to be installing them yes so we will completely talk about hot guys doing them i'll work what is it you are no no all us um us building them uh supplying them us going through to make sure that everything in there is clean not
1:12:38paraphernalia not broken glass we also are using plexiglass to avoid breaking breaking the glass um and i know you had brought up a concern for just trash than putting trash in there or something but that's always your monitor and if i see it's wood it's going to be all smooth and that's nobody gets splinted into the ground it is um i believe the post part of it is going to be in the ground yes and safe
1:13:13but i think you have to yeah i believe oh wait really yes that's good to know good to know um i don't know where the lines are what's underneath it if she posted if they put put the pulse in the ground to hold these things up the question was would they probably have to contact dig deeper than 18 inches and i think he made the post 18 inches for that if you go
1:13:36no i think yeah okay okay yeah perfect um and i know you had uh just said that if we were to close or anything were to happen with nature's medicine what would happen with them again that is something that we did think about and we will take care of that as well okay all right and you said this was going to be a pilot program so maybe in the future you'd want to a pilot program
1:13:56maybe for this summer in father kelly and highland park yep and then in the future maybe all the posters yeah i had originally proposed six but if two work for now hopefully we can get to the six in the future okay all right do we have any questions concerns from any commissioners all right do i have a motion um i haven't i'll make the motion but i also want to just say if this let's say like
1:14:18two months down the line this is going well and you guys do want to add the additional definitely reach out to us because this is a great program so yeah thank you so much um i make a motion to approve second hey commissioner burns made that motion seconded by commissioner uh rigo all in favor say aye aye all right thank you thank you guys so much thank you for all you do thank you
1:14:52all right so the next one is going to be item l it's a request for metal detecting in the city parks uh you guys can see is attached is a new befit detecting application for the board to review if they don't have that attachment i was going to say oh you don't have this yeah okay i'm so confused by this i'm sorry i'm sorry i thought it was probably there no no should i read this one
1:15:21no not on your agenda okay okay your bedford gives out permits fall river has not given out permits in past years because we have a problem with people digging on the ball fields and or they don't replace it properly and then we have people injured so fall river stops giving out metal deck technique oh this is like someone once yeah i thought they wanted us like put metal detectors at the park i'm like that
1:15:53makes no sense no no no no they want to go around like looking for mine on the agenda wash treasures so that makes sense we're getting a call from all these guys we just paid for these fields what are they they're getting them up for jesus i need to go to bed so are we just all right so it's the board's pleasure i make a motion to deny second yeah okay motion to deny second
1:16:23uh by commissioner burns seconded by commissioner uh paris um sec oh all in favor say aye aye aye sorry guys all right item m is from the department of uh health and human services division uh this is just uh i'm sure you guys have seen the vac signs around different locations at businesses and that director current test current is just asking if we can get permission to install the vaccine clinic locations in
1:17:01various parks and mediums the islands i don't still see it as a picture like a blue moon yes you see them at the boys four by you see them now with boys and girls who has them on their front lawn so anyway that's what it says in here but she did also say that she was going to use the police yeah they're a little naughty it does say four by eight it just says uh four on
1:17:35the backs when i did speak to her though that was what she referenced with the political scientist i think they've already been on the island possibly possibly all right so we're just ratifying pretty much to get permission well i think she wants to put him in parks right yes yes so she couldn't come tonight so i i let her know that i'd be willing to speak on this if she needed me too
1:18:02so do you have any questions or concerns commissioners my old determines i hope that dcm and and the workers and i'm picking these up every morning and it begins to be thrown around the clocks but i'm not against it it's like everything else we warned the sports league that if you put up signs and they get ripped down and lift apart we're not going to be picking them up every single day and that's why we
1:18:36institute that as a pilot program when we first started it was one of the reasons so um same thing with this i i hope or not our workers are not cleaning up these things all day long instead of doing other things in the past my only suggestion again my suggestion is i would rather have them secure to the fence that way they're not in a way of our guys cutting grass and everything
1:19:04because they're gonna have to move them to cut grass if they're stuck in the grass yeah i'd have to move them on the islands anyway yeah yeah the islands the islands are feasible the islands are different but at least at the parks obviously at this attachment to like defense or something obviously at this point i think mrs caron is is trying to draw attention to the vaccine clinic so
1:19:23i i think the only opinion she may have on that was some of the fences for the leagues are a little further away from the street you're not going to get as much visibility but if that's what the board wills then i'm sure she'd be able to she'd accept that you use your judgment like yeah i would say like like maple wood you could probably put it on the corner of stafford road or something
1:19:41so kennedy you have on bradford avenue you have i mean broadway you have the two fences that are there how about miss smith if the boat is willing mrs smith and i work together with mrs curran to figure out the proper locations and if any of the board members see that that might be an issue in any of the locations we pick you can let us know and we'll address it fair
1:20:00enough that's fine thank you john i don't know if she has to let the um allison know because the council i think has something to do now with these signs being put on islands they need that needs to go before the council i know she won't have a fee because i know there's a fee associated she won't have a fee because it's a city sign but i know that when the council voted years back about these
1:20:26signs that they had to go through allison because there's a fee for all the signs they put up like individual people like companies when they want to do that that's why we take them in like the furniture stores and all that yeah but this is a public entity right so i would just say let them this is a public entity yeah we'll notify them we won't pay yeah i mean she won't pay yeah but
1:20:47just so that they know and they don't say the city didn't follow their own rule sure we're gonna put it on a fence don't we not on the islands you can't no no there's no fences on the island commissioner yeah
1:21:13same second commissioner silvia made that motion second by commissioner burns all in favor say hi thank you no problem all right item n is uh as you know we're starting to get popular again for all the fields and everything uh this is a quote for purchase of two soccer goals to possibly be installed at tabasso's park alden street uh as you know we have a bunch of leagues that use brooklyn pop savasas is a grass field
1:21:49and we're starting to get a lot of requests so we definitely need to do something and this is the quote right here for two goals to be installed and i would recommend that we anchor them down not that way so without they're not being moved every time out of the way and they don't get damaged you know um portable gold and i like those those they they're permanent but they that price does not include the anchors
1:22:20because i didn't know if the board was going to want to anchor them because um i think it's very difficult to walk away with a socket that that size but i won't say it won't be the reason the reason why we want to get them the reason why well if they can take bleachers they can take soccer nets the reason we want to get them anchored is because we're also going to request uh part of
1:22:48the field permits in that is the titans football team is going to use that field to practice and that we just don't want them moving them on and off out of the way and everything if you're practicing you don't need the whole the soccer field's not going to be in them that's not going to be in your way they're in the goals yeah personally i would rather see him and get and make that and that way
1:23:08nobody's getting hurt so many climbs on it or something i think that feels good and actually put them in the ground they ain't got but they don't move so so i i would say i recommend the same thing before you put chains they were dragging them across yeah the little ones the big ones were no the big one originally oh all right so do we have a mission to
1:23:42give a go for quotes and also give mr smith uh permission to get the hole for the anchors and install these mrs smith is just coming out of the bagel bucket yes sir big motion that we put into gold and i've been let's get uh hopes for the yankees okay so i have a second second commissioner sylvia made that motion seconded by commissioner rigo all in favor say hi thank right all righty item p q oh
1:24:27wait a minute wait a a minute one second item oh sorry i don't know discussion of i looked at this thing over here that's why i thought item oh discussion of awarding the field permits for the 2022 season uh so as the rest of the commissioners know that uh as the chairman normally i am getting emails in the chain of command and the chain between mr perry mr uh mrs smith and uh the administration that last
1:25:05friday the administration had mr smith mr uh perry myself and everything up in the meeting discussing is everybody's paperwork in order or not because we had to extend the uh order of the deadline from i believe it was uh february to march 15 and our last meeting we gave until 15. there are some leagues that are still missing certain paperwork tonight so it's going to be the recommendation
1:25:34part of the administration too is to work with this is like the licensing board and that does when someone's coming for a license and that uh give a pendant approval that they work with the police department everything to get their all their paperwork in order that so i my recommendation is going to give mrs uh give um the leaks we don't want to hurt the kids and everything you know uh that uh
1:26:05if they're missing their 501 3cs their solicitation forms or anything we're going to get permission uh that will approve all the permits pending they will not be able to pick up their permits until the paperwork is turned in that mrs smith is missing so that is going to be the recommendation for the administration um and next year we are going to be working on a strict policy that there is
1:26:34not going to be no leeway is there a deadline for that uh i would say within uh some of these leagues are going to be opening saturday for like soccer leagues and uh they have games already scheduled baseball some of them are opening days um i believe maplewood is the ninth yeah yes they're inviting us all there at nine o'clock in the morning on the night for opening day all your commissioners uh
1:27:01i think mr patel and mr vining's leagues are not until the 23rd and that so you get they got a few weeks but uh i would say they need to work with whoever they need to get it's simple paperwork and everything but we need we've been asking for this for a couple of months already 20 food i think that we should make a if we do this like which i'm fine with but there
1:27:23should be like a you have 30 days or 45 days or whatever the case may be because if it's if we just say yep you have to do it and it's august and they still don't have it yeah they've been there well no no that's that's what i'm saying but they're not gonna have their permit so now they're taking a chance playing on these fields without a permit so if any
1:27:42other buddy anybody else goes there and uses that field they can't throw them off they don't have their life and we can also give other leagues their times correct but i think we should give them a time frame that they no no so that we don't so i think by the if they don't have it by their opening day which is what they're i think that's by their each league has their own opening day
1:28:02so if they don't have it by their opening day then they have to i mean the some of the paperwork is not that hot some of the paperwork is rosters some of the paperwork is a document from the irs or a document from the state of massachusetts i don't know about you but if that was going to stop me from opening my league i'm going to get on these people to get
1:28:29me what i need because i'm going to say listen i have 500 kids that are depending on these things for me to get my permit so basically we're having them put the squeeze on whoever they need to get the paperwork that we're asking every other league to do and that's what we were kind of told listen if other people can do it people need to do it i understand there's extending circumstances but we all have
1:28:53to pursue what we need individually as a league to be able to put forth this documentation so right now i'm working on i've sent emails out to everyone who has missing documents so they know exactly what we need and what the conversation was is i won't be able to release your permit and for your you to have it for your opening day now if they don't have it by their opening day
1:29:22now they're going to face jeopardy of the time slots becoming open for other people that may have their paperwork in order so it's just kind of holding everyone according to the same accountability as long as there's some sort of deadline that they know like so my deadline for them i would say for the board is their opening day because everyone needs you know practice is one thing if somebody's on your field but
1:29:48when you start your opening day and you have scheduled games and whatever all of that information should be to me some of the leagues like the adult leagues don't stop until may they don't stop until the 29th of april so tentatively they don't have everything in order and i understand that but when you when when you're asking is my permit ready then you should have what this board is
1:30:11asking for already and that's what we were kind of told sorry and then uh uh not the name any leagues and everything like i said there's rosters there's 501 3cs there uh stuff there's solicitation things if you do not have a solicitation thing in if you've already solicited money and everything you cannot until we have that solicitation in hand cannot put any banners or anything up i apologize but i think it more
1:30:43important the kids playing on the field than advertising
1:30:54yes sir yes mr silva we've been talking about this i know some members have not been here as wrong but we've been talking about this since the solicitations about getting paperwork into permits for years we make rules we change our rules we extend deadlines i'm sorry but i i have an issue with this policy and we extended the deadline again i'm meeting a tour guide okay because we had leagues in here
1:31:35saying that oh well i don't have registration going on i got this i got that so this board bends over backwards again to accommodate these weeks these leagues don't care about the sport or our rules okay i know that's not a popular thing to say but i'm not here to be popular right so many leagues register their kids in the fall so don't tell me you can't give me a list of names
1:32:06of your players in your league in april and then now you want to push it back more to opening day the end of the month i'm sorry but i will not support that because this board makes rules and we we cater to everybody more than we have to okay and we shouldn't have to do that we are the body that runs the park department and hands off the myths we asked for something
1:32:44to supposed to take this thing's been going on for three years don't tell me that you didn't renew it from last year when it in january or february you're going to come here in april and tell me that we made we changed the rule we said as long as you apply and you can show us an email from the from the state or some kind of documentation in the state that it's being processed we'll accept that
1:33:12but now we're going to change it again because players don't have losses and and whatever i'm sorry i will not support this well like i said commissioner we're also gonna this is not against kids playing no no this is the first you know what i said this is gonna be now on the leagues for an administration they are not gonna get their permits until mrs smith has this paperwork in hand so now it's going
1:33:38to be their due diligence to get it done pronto i'm sorry mr chairman okay and i apologize to the administration yep well this board has had rules doing that for the last whatever number of years get your stuff in get your stuff in but so now we're gonna now we're gonna change it again and try and accommodate people i'm not against letting kids play and and mrs smith is right when she said you have an
1:34:10adult one in the league who can't get paperwork in and he's going to be responsible to have to answer to those 500 kids i said that something to that effect all right i'm sorry well why are we going to change the rules again i understand how the administration is involved because it's the first time i've heard about it today well i would have liked to been in on that conversation um
1:34:38but it is just it's just absolutely foolish to me that we keep changing these rules and they still can't get this stuff in so maybe it's time that we put our foot down and say whatever league it is i'm sorry but you're not getting a commitment here good jeff please uh commissioner dude yeah i'm bond mr smith we're doing everything in our power to try to work with these leagues but
1:35:11you we can't at the 11th hour say you can't have it the problem is and and i will say to you you're right in some cases where all these documents 501c3s these are documents that you have to maintain by filing your taxes so these are things that should be easily in your possession you know and i understand you know the five oh the certificates of solicitation may be a little bit delayed but they're not
1:35:39you know the thing is when you know you're right when you know it's expiring you have to it's like your driver's license i know it's expiring so what do i do just go ah my driver's license is expired when the cop pulls me over no you go to the registry you go you have to go and you do what you have to do to pursue that so that you get it done i understand what
1:35:58you're saying but at this point in the 11th hour the most i can do is say we can't release your permits until you have that these kids are all signed i up with that i agree with you we've been dealing with this for years i don't understand why we're going to say as you say the 11th hour to change the rules the rules have been the rules i don't need one vote well they're not
1:36:29getting it technically they're not getting the permit until they give that paperwork what do you want are you saying that if they're turning it in late they should get punished and not get the the permit all year because technically they're not getting the permit no i'm not saying that okay but that's what i'm saying and technically the way we're setting it up right now they are not releasing the
1:36:49permit until all the paperwork is in what's up you're right you want them to meet the deadlines what i'm saying is i'm getting the impression that these leagues are trying to dictate to us what our rules are going to be and when they when they can follow them when they don't have to you're not getting the impression though that has been what happened but at this point the administration has said we will
1:37:12say stick by you because we all do respect i understand what you're saying but we've been trying to crack down on this for years for years when are we gonna say the buck stops here that's it okay this board gets pushed along by these people okay and it's getting a little frustrating a little time because what as was said this is something like your driver's license it needs to be renewed every year and it doesn't
1:37:44they have registration in the fall why can't we get a list in march or april how many kids you got in your league i granted i respectful everything you're saying and the thing is it is the 11th hour there's some of these leads that are starting saturday this weekend and everything and for a piece of paper i understand but i am not it's not the kid's fault it's the adults that run the leagues
1:38:10that's what i understand i am not going to hurt these kids all these parents i cannot give them their stuff so guess what it's on their administrations of their leagues to get on get their stuff done because then they have to answer their parents questions yeah well they're going to have to answer the questions or guess what then parents are going to go elsewhere next year because next year the rules are
1:38:30going to be strict we're going to work on that new policy in there and yeah it's going to thank you but i'm just saying my commissioners um so i have two questions i may regret both i may regret answering them um no no no that's no um estimated how many people are we waiting on many leagues yes uh minimum of four that start now okay and the probably six to seven that are starting
1:39:08in the month of april and at that time that's out of how many uh that's you probably got you probably durfee i'm counting durfee they haven't gotten the paperwork oh that has i was like let me because all they need to give us is request and a liability policy because they're city whatever yeah but for the most part three four five six uh you probably got a good ten that are
1:39:38missing things down the road and then the majority of them because they're all kind of they may be one league but there may be four groups in that one league okay so okay i would say the majority have been with my past emails this week kind of getting a little bit more you need to get this document or i might not be able to release your permit like a
1:40:00preview of because i i kind of knew what was coming um i've been getting a little bit more information but i agree with commissioner sylvia that we shouldn't have to use threatening tactics to get the information um i agree with him it is an absolute joke that i've only been here for two years and the amount of times i've heard this poor man go on rants about this i'm like i can't um my
1:40:21second question is um just so i can understand this better so if someone has an opening day they have not gotten your paperwork we're still allowing them to have their opening day essentially but if i decide i want to go there and play baseball they can't kick me off so i think i might have to go place a baseball on several different opening days uh but is that is that the biggest
1:40:43soccer ball too well i don't want to just like put the baseball in the bad light trying to lighten the mood a little bit in this room um but is that the is that the yeah that's basically what we're saying pretty much i had one other question now we're hoping it doesn't come together well obviously but my thought is i feel like there's gonna be there has to be a
1:41:01if it's two months into their season and they well no because i think what what was said is is if the paperwork's not there then we're gonna ante up your your time yep okay you know your time is gonna make your time eventually it eventually has to be come to a point where these leagues understand that if you don't give us what we give them the privilege of if you've had it before we will
1:41:25hold your time so your league kind of has this opportunity to to have that field again so they have the almost not an automatic renewal they have to supply the paperwork for the renewal but almost like a a marker holding their place for the following year so what they do have to understand is if you're not going to get your stuff in in time and i have another new league that
1:41:47has all the documents that i want they might push you out of your spot but that's where it comes into the fact of we need everyone from top to bottom on the same page because you the board needs that backing so that's what it is you're if you don't get this paperwork in you have to understand that there are other people that do want this and perhaps your time
1:42:12is going to come up okay so i would like to to avoid this obviously for next year yeah i'll be here um maybe we this is just a suggestion for me maybe we have a meeting i don't know in january and we request that anyone who's going to be wanting a permit for the summer come so that we i know that you obviously send the emails out but it might be something like
1:42:35this patel's always here like there's certain individuals that are always here and they're always available to us so that might be something that we may want to have i don't know if it's a special meeting or whether it's a meeting with just two commissioners so it doesn't have to be a formal board meeting but something in which where every single person who wants a permit knows like
1:42:50this is what you need to do and if you don't have it done by this time you will not get a permit that's the letter that we send out on january 25th no i leak no i know you send it but sometimes like face-to-face type of thing or even if we do it via zoom like that's it it may be something that we might want to consider can do whatever they want just because
1:43:08follow that letter yep i don't know if i can have another conversation like this again a year from now now question fema smith not the name leagues and everything like that the league that does not have the solicitation do they have everything that you need for their permit yes so then i would say their permit would be yet released and they just can't advertise i'd rather worry about the kids not
1:43:36worrying about advertisement i'm not i'm not here for advertisement i want the kids on the field but then okay so now you're putting me in a situation where if somebody has okay what if someone don't have their particular 501c3 in kids want to play too so do i you can't say yeah if you have this you just can't advertise if you have this you just can't play i i guess the advertisement piece is a little different
1:44:00but that's something this board decides not me so yes i i guess you could say that because you can still play because we do have leagues that are not a 501 c 3 that do play but that's the certificate of solicitation whatever advertising they they my personal opinion is they can do whatever advertising they want anywhere else but when you put the advertisement on park fences now that involves the sport so
1:44:29whatever they do without a certificate of solicitation is none of my business and none of this board's business as far as i see but except when it comes to the banners so that that's the only thing my suggestion that's what i'm saying is the most important thing that we're requesting unless it's going to be on our property the motion thing that we're requesting is their 501 3cs their rosters and that
1:44:51so if they didn't turn that in they didn't get their permit if that leak turned all that other stuff in they did then they get their permit they have i think it's more important to get the kids playing than worrying about advertisement my issue is not advertising no no i understand that not at all yeah my issue is getting the paperwork in the order of this board okay and again support extends extension deadlines
1:45:22okay and we just bought the refuses to put his foot down and say i'm sorry because you know let's let the president explain to the kids why they they can't play tonight because some families playing on their field because they don't have a permit it's not the only way to stop that is the first come first serve then whoever has their paperwork in that makes everybody want to jump to the here's the
1:45:48you know that then that's the way to stop it but that's going to be another emotion in the past actually you got to be careful what you wish for in the past we talked about maybe charming free maybe maybe it's time to find these people when they don't have this stuff in fine then i don't know mr perry some kind of penalty hi mr perry hi guys commissioner i don't know if i'm not interrupt i'm
1:46:15going to let you yell so um i agree um with a lot of points on both sides i definitely agree that there's been an ongoing issue for years um and needs to be corrected i definitely agree that i don't want to have that conversation again but i also agree with uh mr chair and and mrs smith that there are a lot of consequences to just kind of putting our foot down right now
1:46:40at this moment now what i will tell you is different in my experience uh commissioner sylvia this year than other years is the administration is committed to fixing this problem now can we fix this problem within the next month and before all these leaks start no i really don't believe that we have the ability to do that um and along those lines i think um if we start going down the road
1:47:05of saying okay you can have your permit but you can't solicit uh we run the risk of another league possibly saying well i can't solicit but they don't have that and you allow them to do this i think then we get into the minutia of of back and forth i think we need to make a con a concerted effort between the board and the administration um starting now all right running right through the
1:47:29regular leagues in the summer in the spring and the spring and the summer right into the fall and so that that way next year this is all done this is on paper the administration and the border are in sync with what they feel should happen um we could even possibly put it out there publicly prior to like you said let's say december uh january early january and say okay this is the new policy um
1:47:56maybe an old policy but just strengthen the fact that it will be enforced well this we will probably have the answers already for fall ball right and they're all leagues and everything so yeah this is pretty much going to be just for the spring and summer what i think happens commissioner sylvia and has happened in the past that i've seen happening firsthand um we have this debate we have this argument you are
1:48:18correct the board bends over backwards to help the leagues and allows them to play once that takes place it's forgotten the league goes on its way and does its thing the board has a number of other things that they have to worry about and we don't come back to revisit but i know commissioner da silva i know nancy myself and and the administration if you'd like to be part of those conversations something i'm sure that
1:48:45the chair wouldn't have an issue with um but i think as immediately we need to stop sitting down at the table as early as next week um and start these conversations back up with the administration we had a brief meeting with the administration we covered a lot but there are also other things that we covered that are still up in the air whether that be charging for certain things or or what will be
1:49:06allowed um so i think if we make that concerted effort to get back to the table iron out these issues before fall um and then next year we move forward with a new mindset so next year uh if we set these protocols in place and they look as though they're not being followed again i will keep my butt in that seat and mind my business um because i agree with you wholeheartedly
1:49:29that there's been too many times where we've allowed things to happen people who play that didn't do the right thing then you have other leagues who dot their eyes and cross their t's um and they feel slighted as well so you know what i mean it's not just um hurting the kids we don't want to hurt the kids that are playing for leagues that may not be doing the right
1:49:49thing but we also want to be fair to the leagues that are going above and beyond and making sure that they have everything in order every year it's not fair to them if the other leagues get to play so i agree with both sides but i think at this point we're not going to get that answer within the month no and my thing is too i'm not going to hurt a
1:50:05kid right now that their parents have committed to that league if that league don't get that paperwork now we hold that permit and don't give him a permit and say you can't play now most of these other leagues are already tied up and everything they got their players in that where does these kids go from that league that's not that's not fair than them parents all of them kids it wasn't them that did that situation
1:50:28and to your point i'll give you a small example um you know when my son was younger there was a a year where you know he was continuously late at school um they gave him a detention now i felt that was my responsibility because i was the individual bringing him to school you never drive his license car was his he had no means to get to school other than than his father um
1:50:50i had that debate but at the end of the day he paid the consequence for something i didn't make sure happened on time okay i had to accept that and i think at a certain point these leagues are going to have to accept that these children are going to have to suffer if you don't do what you're supposed to do i just don't think right now that statement is going to make any
1:51:11difference i think there will be a couple of leagues that probably would suffer right now and and i think we can avoid that and next year i'll make sure that the proper protocols are in place and follow the other thing is john to be honest with you guys the 501c3s the certificate of solicitations maybe we ask for them to be in in december and you can't even move forward with the
1:51:36rest of the stuff all we would be waiting for is team sign ups and schedules so great ideas things are put in place the year before if you don't have those two documents don't sign up kids period end of discussion that could be done in november or december this way if you're you're not going to be in september i go i got so much to get that no you have until december 31st to give
1:52:04us your 501c3 because your 501c3 is a document that you have to keep up with your taxes if you don't keep it up within a three year period you lose your 501c3 status the only problem we have and unfortunately it's a new league but new leagues know that that's an exception or whatever will have to cross that bridge but they need to know if you're going to establish a new league make sure your
1:52:29paperwork is in order for the end of the the previous year so you can participate in putting your lead together in the spring great idea great policy change something that can be added into the protocols for next year that to my point i'm not arguing your point i agree wholeheartedly i'm gonna argue it needs to get correct i'm not looking at her kid okay yeah well it's disrespectful people are missing a point it is
1:52:56disrespectful we checked last year this time when we had this problem and a year down the road we still have the problem okay i know we're not going to fix this tomorrow next week next month the people that apply for the mix think that they can come in here and do whatever they want i'm sorry i was the lead president for 12 years my i came before this board i went before the city council okay but
1:53:34for permission to do things way back when and guess what my ducks were in order because it takes every business these people are not taking care of business the ones that are guilty of these interactions but they get away with it i understand
1:54:06mr can we get the board members get a list of who's missing what i can provide that but i i would prefer that the list does not go floating around to disrespect confidential between us i want it for my knowledge i don't know how you walk although i don't know now that you discussed it it might be public i information that's a fair request yeah i think that's a mormon yeah yeah
1:54:39if it's not i i will draw it all right do i have a motion to approve pending uh they get that their permits are all approved uh and mrs smith will hold them until she gets all her proper paperwork she needs if everybody's turned their stuff in they will get their permit released
1:55:16was made that um so i'm i'm just saying i need a motion so you would have to say this is the motion would be that the uh we have given permission pending that all permits are approved pending mr smith will hold possession of the permits until she's deemed that she's requested uh receive all proper paperwork that we ask for if they have all their proper paperwork other than the 181 organization that doesn't have
1:55:49the advertisement stuff they can advertise whatever they want they just they're taking that chance not on our property so if you i think it's more important to get you still get a permit you don't get your permit until you turn that paperwork in she's going to hold their permit it's going to be approved it's just they're not going to get that permit in hand so now they're taking the
1:56:14chance going on them fields playing having their games if somebody in the public goes there and plays they can't throw them off because they don't have their permit officials so if i'm there with a pickup game eight guys me and you let's go you can't let's do it you can't kick me off the field and that would be their punishment at that point i mean there's a chance it could happen and then say
1:56:32somebody another league or something needed time for instance like soccer guys the soccer field britain there's i think the lord has to come to a point where he's like the board has to come to a point if the paperwork is not in then then unfortunately it's not released you can't give the permission right this motion i make a motion that we revisit the other motion okay yeah we'll take the other motion off the
1:56:56table so i make a motion that we give pen pending approval to anyone until they get all of their information in and then they can get their physical permits when they have once they have them i also my part of my motion is we revisit next month you let us know who has already started who has not given you everything and then we will revisit at that point if there's three people
1:57:17who still have not given their stuff they've already had their opening day and they're actively playing we can tell them hey you've had this amount of time and we're killing you we can pull it and say that you cannot participate we have given them the chance for them to have the kids play but if they don't get it within to us within the next month then in the may meeting we will
1:57:36address address it there you go second second that seems fair commissioner has made that check second vice commissioner are you gonna open the positive what
1:58:03hey commissioner all you presidents and everybody on the center doesn't have the permits get on your slip uh and then there's uh a couple other things that we're going to talk about after the agenda people can stick around uh okay
1:58:26it should be very quick permission to solicit bids to repair damage to the stonewall at the locust street side of the cemetery i asked mr piranha to put this on the agenda because i've been driving mr pirano crazy for over a year to take care of this matter because my feelings is perpetual care is the surrounding of that cemetery in that and it's our responsibility to make sure that it's taken care of and that
1:58:56i'll explain let him explain and i drive by that all the time and i see it and i say why hasn't it been fixed we've tried to we've tried to save money in our operating budget to fix it at the end of last fiscal year we didn't have it we're not going to have it again this fiscal year our budget is is lean and we spend we spend the money wisely but uh it goes
1:59:15to necessary purchases um so we would like to solicit bids and use perpetual care funds to fix the wall um from preliminary conversations i don't think it would cost any more than four thousand dollars again we've had this discussion before uh the city funds our day-to-day operation um from lawn mowing to tree removal leaf removal all of those things at the burials and they fund our equipment purchases we
1:59:48don't come to this board for perpetual care to purchase equipment or our daily operation i think these bigger projects are what perpetual care is for um and uh that's why we're here okay it's not the thick walls perpetual fears to take care of the graves and the city takes care of the graves through our operations care pays for that that's what they do with it petrol care does not pay for us to cut the grass
2:00:18we don't no why do we pay for direct from camp to do things like this to maintain the roads to maintain the buildings to maintain the general infrastructure of the cemetery to make sure that it is an operable cemetery for as long as it can be them walls and fence that surround that cemetery is to protect them graves and everything that the per the people that paid for that that's
2:00:42to protect them if we're going by it's an ice or seeing a wall busted down with a fence in that for over a year if i'm a family member there i'd be disgraced that that's like that and the other thing is our professional care number is not large enough to support our daily operation uh we would burn through that money very very quickly if it were to pay for the operation to cut grass and
2:01:03my understanding was it was somebody hit the wall no insurance uninsured so they're uninsured uninsured i believe it was a stolen vehicle without getting that money to fix that wall so we need to use perpetual care to fix that that is part of what it was a stolen vehicle wasn't the vehicle wasn't insured i don't even think the vehicle was registered he's just winning yeah so you go by locust street across from the
2:01:28dog park and you just see that entrance that wall's all busted down we have it has been sitting there it should be unrepaired for a while we have looked at we tried to do it at the end of last fiscal year i got some quotes we did not have enough money to do it we were looking at doing it again this year and we're just not gonna have that money in our operating budget normally
2:01:52same thing same cemetery in that when it happened like when someone went through the gates or something that oak grove that wasn't fully insured or something like that so the insurance paid for that or yes yeah so it's a different city the city has a company that goes after these services that's recoup our funds yep so do i have a permission uh do we have a motion to request for bid so we can use
2:02:14uh get this wall fixed defense request for bids and use perpetual care yes commissioner sylvia made that motion second invite commissioner farias i'm going to take a roll call vote commissioner sylvia yes mission of burns yes commission nefarious yes commissioner yes missionary commissioner rigo votes now okay all right item q request for a tree removal at the corner of valentine and reading street overgrown
2:02:52fallen branches due to the truck trucks and high winds is this one tree or two trees that's two trees um in front of a house that fronts on valentine the trees are located on uh reading street uh both of which are rated for removal so we should remove both of these trees are we looking at replanting any in the future we're not down that way no so we're looking at a fall planting in
2:03:18general um through this grant that we received for stump removal we would pay for the stump removal we'd get reimbursed by the state and we'd use the reimbursement to do tree plantings um so we're looking at that i don't necessarily know if they would go in this exact location but i would look at the tree plantings i'd like to see if we can if we're going to take down two let's plant two back somewhere okay uh
2:03:45motion commissioner burns second seconded by commissioner sylvia all in favor say aye aye commissioner inquiries uh so a couple of things i wrote down some notes and i just to fill in the rest of the board and different things uh call them the chairman notes the dog park benches uh i want to say a special thank you to dcm workers uh for refurbishing and installing uh mr perry uh as you guys know
2:04:19uh community development paid for all brand new benches at um columbus park the benches that were at columbus park the old metal benches dcm saved four of them uh and repainted them and everything and we had them install them at the dog park as you know uh i gave the order that somebody had uh put plastic and erotic chairs that were all broken in there and they had uh format
2:04:43of the parks removed them from the dog park because it wasn't our property and it's a liability somebody was gonna get one hurting these things uh been on social media and everything and some people are thanking us and everything thanking the city and everything for putting them in so now they can actually sit down there was a couple of benches there that was installed years ago but now
2:05:03we've placed them in strategically in the corners and everything so they're enjoying a minute and they just wanted to say thank you and everything if you looked on social media there was a lot of positive feedback for that uh miss smith i know we approved this uh sometime last year i believe uh we bought some new door uh dog decoys to be installed at tabasus field for the geese uh because you know the geese all over
2:05:30the field and everything and that i think uh miss smith uh told me uh mr reposa who's a counselor now is the principal at a spirit of santos church he's willing to bring them in and out every night so that they don't get destroyed tonight and leave them uh afternoon or afternoon i'm sorry go back at night yeah when school's over here yeah he's gonna bring him he's gonna put him
2:05:54in the morning first thing in the morning back on the field and then take them before school ends often keep them at the school so that way they're maintaining that so that we try to keep the geese off that field um what was brought up on that meeting as well is schedulings and everything from the leagues and that so like i said i'm part of the chain uh that goes back and forth between any
2:06:27leagues and everything uh between schedule and that when they request their permits they give in their time slots and everything i know some stuff happens and everything but we have all these leagues especially soccer leagues that are at brooklyn it's very time consuming for mr smith and everything that leagues are given a certain time frame what they wanted we cannot be now assuming that we know when our
2:06:57fortune tellers and i have to say oh i can't make it at that time i want to use it this time and i and everything they need to work with mr smith when your schedule is set in stone that's set in stone we're not going to take someone else's league or ask another league now oh well can you play in the morning because i can have afternoons and that we're not going to tolerate that number we're
2:07:16going to they need to work with mr smith and in the future with that uh scheduling uh mr perry lighting so we talked about this last year at the lighting now at father kelly park you're going to be taking care of it to make sure that the re-aiming is not blinding the adult epoch at tupac thank you so no way mr blaze is not coming back saying that his players are injured
2:07:51i want to be able to play in that league i want to be able to see okay all right uh the other thing uh mr uh piranha was here we approved this a while back um just to let everybody know in the public in that on apr uh saturday april third thirtieth at ten to two arbor day fair at north park uh i'm gonna be joining uh to learn about forestry korea
2:08:18planting trees take home your own seedlings enjoy the food trucks demonstrations and much more on saturday april 3rd at north park i invite everybody uh to go down there and third commissioners and everything april 30th oh i thought you said third so guys it's on the city website i believe oh boy give me the paper now you're sure that i need the papers we are oh we are yeah the city of far river did
2:08:46you come before the park he came before this uh it's ten to three correct ten to three ten to three it says eight for what ten to two ten to two at north park is it gonna be at the lowest all right snake hill okay commissioner inquiries the commissioner requires nobody okay do i have a motion to adjourn commissioner ferrari it's made that i mean commissioner rigo made that motion second seconded by commissioner
2:09:26nefarious all in favor say hi thank you you