5.1.23 Conservation Commission

uh welcome to the uh former Conservation Commission meeting being held at uh public hearing on Monday the 1st 2023 5 30 and the first floor hearing room one government center uh this can be built uh through uh FRG TV and channel nine uh we're pursuant to the open meeting laws any person may make an audio or video recording of this public media or may transmit the meeting through any medium attendees are

therefore advised as such recordings of Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present that's our Dean acknowledged and permissible uh we'll start with roll call Crystal City urine crisp oil here a little square John Brandt Jim Cusick Paul emerald and we're missing uh Reverend Jim Hornsby we also have tonight uh Dan agiar conservation agent Nina Pablo Clerk and Gary Lett from FRG TV

personal business is a request or certificate of compliance se-24-739 owner applicant is cml2 LLC project location is 507 Alden Street census map is j-21-0001 and zero zero zero five applicant requesting a certificate of compliance let's see that it all work regulated by the order conditions has been satisfactory complete uh this was table from April 3rd 2023 meeting so commission members I was able to look

at the site again at this time I'll recommend the issuance of a certificate of compliance pending an updated as built plan I have been in contact with the Consulting engineer and they will be providing one remember the last thing we were waiting for was that rotating wall along Alden Street to be constructed they really did an incredible job went Way Beyond what they had to do I know Paul went to go

take a look at it and he was finally happy with it anything with related to Conservation Commission related items has been taken care of some site plan review stuff needs to be resolved but anything storm water drainage or general construction stuff it's fine to issue a certificate of compliance does anybody have any questions no I just want to pretty much say what Dan said I went

there I looked at the wall they did a really really good job so I make a motion to approve the COC second sorry okay roll call vote hi hi yes okay next on the list is request or certificate of compliance se-24-765 owner applicant Highland Farms development 2 LLC project location 245 fillstone Lane Assessor's map is u-04-0059 applicant requesting a certificate of compliance saying it all

work regulated by the order conditions has been satisfactory completed this was tabled from April 3rd 2023 meeting I would recommend that this item be tabled as final loaming and seating has not been completed and you'll remember item number eight later on in this evening's agenda is with regards to the installation of a swimming pool in that same parcel so I would recommend tabling it till both of

them have finally completed make a motion we table second meeting yes okay next on the list is the notice of intent se-24-814 owner applicant is Berkeley Street limited LLC project locations Bell Rock Road business map is w-19-000 followed by civil and environmental Consultants Inc on behalf of applicant the applicant proposes a site stabilization plan consisting of regarding a previous Disturbed portions

of a site adding Loom topsoil as needed and hydroseeding this was table from April 3rd's uh 2023 meeting so commission members if you remember this has been an ongoing um project or projects out on Bell Rock Road for the restoration of that ledge removal area at the last meeting we had given a lengthy list of comments and required conditions for the applicant to incorporate it onto that plan set and to

put together through a narrative that they've submitted as well I would offer that they have Illustrated and shown all that we asked them to do on this plan if you remember we were trying to limit the amount of special conditions by actually having them you know put all of these items on the plan so going through it quickly we ask that they widen the birth of the general drainage Swale that

direct storm water down through the driveway Culvert which they did we asked that they provide a number of plantings along Bell Rock Road in a cluster of Evergreens which they did we asked that they install a gate at the driveway entrance and upgrade the crushed stone driveway entrance that's there that's shown on the planet and it's actually already done in the field I went there

this afternoon to take a look at it so that part of the work is done so it is locked off and the crushed zone is there there are notes on the and you'll see at the very top about cleaning the adjacent Wetlands where silt had been intruded upon and that'll all have to be removed by hand so that's on the plan set as well the the required treatments for how the loaming and seeding and slope

stabilization for the restoration they've added notes with regards to that on the plan um trying to think if there's anything else at the attitude sediment uh rip wrap areas at each end of that that existing Culvert to try and help clean up storm water as it runs through there as well they also have a note I believe there's a note on the planet about the test bits if not it is in a response letter

um where they would be doing a dozen different test bits witnessed by an LSP and myself thanks so that we can ensure that the film material was was suitable so as you see in the just a little blurb that I gave you I think all those items being handled on the plan I don't think they need specific special conditions what you should discuss and and probably condition is the time frame by which you want this

work to be completed you know generally in order of conditions is valid for three years I would not allow the applicant to go beyond one year or actually through the fall without having this work completed but other than that I have nothing else to offer how long do you think it is for the work to be completed uh that's an excellent question uh I know it's actively ongoing there are a couple areas that they did

want to stabilize essentially there's there was an area Carla sculpty with civil and environment Consultants were representing the applicants that uh where there was some steeper excavations where they want to bring in essentially some soil to stabilize that area to eliminate some abrupt vertical phases that they have there uh I know the work's ongoing as Mr aguiar mentioned they're already working on getting the

gates and we'll get the Landscaping in uh certainly this spring I think they just want to make sure that they do the rest of the work properly John Cena there you go uh so it is ongoing uh and we certainly want to be completed with this as soon as we can as well and be able to close out the project uh and I'll defer John it was the question that came up about

the schedule and the anticipated completion uh Mr Acura recommended that uh we get the work done as expeditiously as possible within the year if that's possible yes we definitely plan to do that that's certainly reasonable that's that's a time frame we can meet okay have there been any renewed Communications with a Mass Audubon for once this work is completed what's to become of the property we definitely do

plan to donate it that I I can I can represent that we haven't contacted the Audubon Society in working with national natural heritage they had a couple other suggestions of folks so we're sort of going to weigh out our options with with regard to to whom we're going to donate it but our plan is but that is the plan definitely yes okay we can't make that a condition I would never do that but who you um

clay are you working with Tim McGuire okay it is Tim okay the other question I the concern I had at the last meeting was that the water runs off that property to the Northwest as it comes off the property and there was significant evidence of reduction oxidation reactions from the you know in that water that was coming off and flowing into those sure those two and and granted that the very small Wetland areas but

that that rip wrap that was in there that crushed stone was failing it wasn't doing his job so a lot of those that sediment was still getting into those wetlands and that that's one concern I have it can we need to correct that sure so one one thing that we did add to the the design uh was not just having the silt fence along the edges but having compost socks to double up with the silk

fences so we have them at two locations uh one before they actually cross through the pipe so the vast majority of the runoff coming through the site we'll hit the settling base in here where the water will slow down and it'll go through the silk fence as well as the compost filter socks and then there's kind of a secondary barrier on the other side which would provide you know a backup to any sort of treatment that

wasn't provided here before It ultimately discharges back to those Wetlands can you talk about the two Wetlands on site not the adjacent one correct yeah yeah and ultimately everything flows through those days so just so I'm clear because if you had the water flowing off site and it would into one wet one then a second one and there was some Stone rip wrap a small rip wrap that was in place there so that that's

being modified to prevent sedimentation yeah we're modifying both of those pads on either side of that cover Crossing when I was there today I mean and the water was still Meandering pretty strongly through through the little river that that it's created what I would recommend is you know that we get this wide birth done first because right now it's really super channelized area

and it was running red I mean it was it was it was pretty bright colored um but as far as actual sediment these should be an improvement as well so I think the the order in which some of this work gets done uh would be very important but there's still quite a bit of filled material to bring in on that back slope it is a sheer face right now so I'm presuming they'll still continue

to dump the fines from the Brock processing operation right is that correct that's our intention yes and what are the types of fill will be brought into the site just the fines or um apart from apart from Loom once we're done I think that would be it yes okay other questions so can I have a motion to issue an order of conditions um with their special conditions and the timeline we decided was a year

and these conditions excuse me I'm sorry um um these conditions include soil testing correct correct yes yeah that's on the planet um we did have a I I don't know Carl Carlos presented it now we did have um we were probably going to use um green seal for the soil testing if that's okay yeah we're fine with that yeah yeah I wouldn't trust CEC so that would be nice being recorded right that's okay

that would be fine no we've uh we've had a long-term relationship with them as well okay good okay we know that some of these test bits will be extremely shallow right but that's understandable given that the condition that given the nature of the site but we want to know what's down there and even if they are shallow we just want something I think does the Note say down to the parent material because I

know that's what was written in the comment it does not uh 12 shall be dug to a depth the two parent materials okay okay so can we assume that that material is pretty much consistent across the site since it was ledge that they quit once it got too wet to deal with but it was still Rock I'm guessing okay okay so we had a motion do we have a second second okay we'll call vote all

right all right hi hi yes okay thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you very much stuff is a request for certificate of compliance se-24-789 owner applicant Highland Farms development 2 LLC project locations 175 billstone Lane assessments Maps u-04-0056 filed by civil and environmental consultant Inc on behalf of African applicants questions for the compliance Appleton States as a exception of the

lawn development on this lot we're about to rise under the orders has been completed substantial compliance to do order condition there's also a minor Wetland entrustment located in the North the southeast corner of the subject property this was tabled from April 3rd to 2023 depending I would recommend the issuance of a certificate of compliance they have made some field modifications updated the as

built plan all the Wetland signage is in the correct location at the right distances away from the Wetland the lot has recently been loaned and seeded all the site work is complete so okay no issue with issuing a certificate of compliance okay uh can I have a motion to ask you a certification yeah we do the second portion of it over here only that section where they were where we pushed up against them and get into

it see what they did was actually something like this no Phil but it'll go back uh hi hi yes okay next is real quiz for certificate of compliance uh sc-24-786 owner applicants Highland Farms development 2 LLC project location 133 Fieldstone Lane assessors mapped as u-04-00545 by civil and environmental consultant Inc on behalf of applicant applicant is requesting a certificate in compliance with the exception of the

final lawn development on this lot the work authorized under the order condition has been completed substantially compliance with the order conditions now this was table from April 3rd 2023 as of today all the work was completed I recommend the issuance of a certificate of compliance yeah that looks good uh can I have a motion to issue a certificate of compliance motion second okay aye aye aye aye yes

good glad to see some of that private Farm stuff here's the same thing there's more coming at the end alrighty next uh is a hand rad sc-24-816 owner applicant is BBC Realty holding LLC project location is zero Innovation Way accessories map is w-1901.87 filed by Zenith Consulting engineer LLC on behalf of BBC Realty holding LLC to review and approve the submitted Wetland delineation this was

table from April 3rd 2023.

commission members we had requested some additional soil testing and some sample plots through the Rio Wetland area the wetlands consultant provided us with that information Zenith is provide us with the revised plan I think the additional information is more than adequate and more okay to issue the approval for the bvw as proposed no other Wetland resource areas were delineated or shown I don't think any

other repair but you're only improving the wetlands line that was presented okay any questions no questions so could I have a motion to issue an order of conditions on area delineation for the bordering with vegetated wetland oceans approved Enron second hi hi hi yes all right thank you

uh next is a notice of intent se-24-817 owner applicant is mellow Estates LLC project location 1262 bright and half customers map is j-24-0002 filed by Zenith Consulting engineer LLC on behalf of applicant the applicant proposes removal existing Rock outcrop to establish a contractor's yard material storage facility also restoration is proposed within a previous Disturbed Riverfront area and

buffer zone as well as cleaning of the existing drainage well in Brighton Ave subject to massdot approval this was tabled from April 3rd 2023. I know we didn't get this until late so yeah it came in late actually I have to close a business on Friday but I was able to give a pretty good look at it today because so much has changed on the plans I think it's probably more

beneficial that the applicant give you a small presentation on it at least and then uh then we can go through my my comments and whatever you may want to add good evening Jamie listen at Zenith Consulting Engineers I'll just do a quick outline on what we've changed as requested at the previous meeting on the existing conditions we've had the drain line from the existing catch Basin to the street into the massdot area

the owners of the property had to snake the line because the outlet is actually buried so they were able to snake it and track it and marked it out and we had the survey crew go out and locate it um we also had the survey crew locate the trees and stumps on the site that will within 100 foot of the resource areas those have been shown on the plan we've added in the approximate tree line

from the aerial photo that the agent had provided us with and also adjusted the site conditions to show the area of gravel from that aerial photo as well on the layout plan there have been several changes meeting with the the applicant and discussing what they're looking to do as per the last meeting there's been an addition of a roughly 5100 square foot building on site uh We've or we're showing parking for 15

tractor trailer trucks and 15 tri-axle trucks there's also a building for assault storage and parking and storage for Onsite machines those all those items I just talked about are outside of the buffer zone to the bvw or Riverfront um or Riverfront area works that are within the buffer zone are the parking lot uh the travel access uh striped parking the material storage bin we're proposing 16 of them at 15 by

15 and 3 at 30 by 30. we also have two new drainage infiltration basins shown one subsurface system and the water quality swell that was on our previous submittal as far as the drainage is concerned now with the addition of pavement and the change to the plan we've added in uh First Defense treatment units which are bmps that will uh two of them will happen in the catch Basin the one other

will happen within our drainage panel and I need to speak with Dan about setting up test pits to dig for the infiltration structures we need to confirm soils and Water Table to move forward on the plant set um as far as the mitigation plan is concerned we took a look at all of the vegetation that was cut again some of it appeared to be dead some of it a couple

of trees may have been alive so what we did was we proposed to replace 15 trees which is the max that we could count stump wise within that 25 foot area we're also still keeping the proposal for the Northeast solar pollinator mix by Ernest seeds to after we clean up the debris the garbage and trash that's in there and and put nice clean soil in that in that area my reverse control plan still uh has the

temporary sediment Basin with a Swale to be used during the removal of rock that period and then I know at the last meeting there was discussion about how do we move forward on this and that you know other boards needed to see this so what we've done is we actually have a council that is helping us prepare those applications to make sure that we do the proper path so we will be filing I

believe for site plan approval and moving forward on that aspect as well we've we've had those meetings and they're preparing the applications so I'm happy to address any questions or comments if you guys have any questions or you want me to go through my stuff first well I just said one uh I know the parking lot is out of the 100 buffers where is that going to be draining into so it depends on which part

um so this section over in here uh there's a there's an existing cash Basin but right uh what we're looking to do is replace it with two new catch basins that go into a drainage manhole in an underground infiltration area again we have to confirm with soils that we can we can put this in what we're doing is right now there's an existing line from a drain uh catch Basin that comes out

into Mass DOT here what we're looking at doing is infiltrating additional and reducing the actual amount that comes out but having an overflow into the into the state layout as far as in the back we have a set of catch basins here or a double double graded catch-based I'm sorry and also a double graded catch Basin here these are both also treatment units and that'll pick up this portion of the

asphalt and this portion will come over into this unit okay that will come down into the water quality swept this one will come into the infiltration Basin and then this here will be split between this infiltration Basin and this will be split into this infiltration base okay thank you um I'm just looking so on page three of the assignment you gave us I see the uh paved vehicle parking area but you also

saw a number of vehicle parking area within the storage bins according to what I'm looking at

well no these are the bins yeah but within the area that accesses the bins yes they are showing up here and what's the what's the that's not paid so what's the material what material will that be these are gonna in the bins no the underneath the vehicles so and this would be beads that operate on the yard during the day we're showing a maximum amount but then we expect that there'll be less

machines there on a regular basis any other questions yeah so how many vehicles in parking spaces do you expect to have at this site for Machinery or for employee parking well I guess for both all right so employee parking right now we're showing 18 spaces up here okay we have one proposed handicap space close to the building for Ada and then over in here we're proposing six spaces on the side of the building

as far as for tractor trailer trucks we propose 15 with 15 tri-axles in front and then like I said these are going to be for on on-site Machinery uh front end loaders backhoes whatever is needed for day-to-day operations plus they do have some equipment for Earth removal on sites

um I actually have one more question uh the proposed 15 by 15 storage areas what material is going to be at those uh storage areas I plan on having there so if you want to speak specifically or

and then the final question is the proposed salt storage I'm kind of concerned about that how is that how are you going to access the salt that the truck's going to come into the storage area and get loaded inside the building or is it going to be outside the building because they're going to be loaded outside the building correct well that's I have a concern with that because um you know the quick the the resource

area is right there I mean I think that that's something that we should take a look at um I don't know if this commission is going to agree or not but to have the trucks be loaded inside the building is that is that salt storage area going to be covered yes yes yeah to building yeah it's within a building yeah okay well I mean we just got I mean I literally just saw that we

all just saw this today so there may be additional questions as we as I go through the mass we go through the stormwater management report I haven't even had a chance to none of us have had a chance to look at it really significant improvements right over the last time but we still need to uh take some time and go through this carefully and sure oh we understand you know yeah

first I want to thank the applicant for providing a more comprehensive plan I mean it is a drastic improvement and illustrates what the actual intended uses of the property uh when I gave it a quick review I do have a few things to offer you and stuff that I've let you know my concerns even previously yep um I just gave you a quick I literally just emailed this to the members an hour

ago so you have a copy of it in front of you so comments that I had added were all materials stored within the license area shall be removed immediately the conditions of the licensed area shall be adhered to completely um I know that the applicant the owner has been made aware of this and hasn't done anything about the materials being stored in that area so immediately that material all those

materials need to be removed okay um and put somewhere can't put them on this site but you can go find somewhere else to put them they don't belong in there then the next issue will be a letter from the Law Department really spelling out we're trying to play nice with this but will be potentially to revoke the license which there is the ability to if an applicant doesn't comply okay so I'm asking you to comply

with that so that we don't get to that next stage so please let your out your client know that I will thank you on revised plan set we'd like to see the edge of the water and the water elevation sure so that I think the commission will get a better idea of we're looking at bank yeah they might get a better feel about it you know how far is the water away from that bank

understood yeah that makes sense I think that may may help in both conditions okay um as us stated the drainage analysis is predicated upon substantial infiltration on the site no soil or groundwater elevation information has been provided so as Jamie stated soil evaluations and percolation testing needs to be completed and witnessed by the city of Fall River I didn't even open up the

storm water management report because it means nothing until we get that information and I understand it's at least we got some plans in but we're a long ways away from from getting to an okay on that another note should be added to the cover sheet with regards to no Excel begin without site plan approval Jamie also addressed that if you can add along Brighton Avenue where the limits of the no access

portion of the State Highway are we can and where the jurisdictional limits and I know it's kind of funky how it gets through here not very clear when you look at the different layouts it's definitely not clear if we're past identical we've been in touch with Master yeah okay yeah so we'll try to get their opinion on it okay because as you know the next question would be do you need a new Street opening State

Highway access permit for sure I mean this is clearly a change in use so those driveways may need some additional permitting radiuses yep you know the you know the gamut it's been an additional drainage improvements might be required the existing billboard Still Remains right that's still there it is I know you reference it just as the pad for the billboard but if you could reference the

billboard itself sure and then I thought there was an actual easement document that illustrates the access that the owner of that billboard has through the site I can make sure that that's not impeded absolutely I'm pretty sure it's there uh if you can Dimension the existing and proposed curve openings if they're the same fine but but just to mention them at appropriate notation that clearly

defines the conditions of the license Grant with prohibitions in the allowed uses okay illustrate the location of the current unpermitted cleared area and ground cover types I do see you note where the trees were removed and where the limits of the gravel are and where the previous tree line was or where the existing edge of the current tree line is again so the commission can get an understanding of

although you've referenced the trees that fall within that very close proximity the actual shrub clearance area is not shown on the plan okay if you can add square footage of the existing building so when we're looking at parking calculations and infiltration sure we can take a look at that illustrate all existing and proposed proposed floor drains and where they discharge to I don't know if the

existing garage has a flow drain um if it doesn't it probably should and may be required moving forward right and then also within the new building in the rear as well yep whether I don't know whether you can get it to sewer or if it'll have to be an industrial Wastewater holding tank or or something like that so if you can address that okay proposed construction activity within the licensed area cannot impede access

to others that maintain access rights so the installation of curb some proposed grading will limit the access that the Northerly butter has so take a look at that and try to be sure that you're not creating an impediment to him absolutely that allows that to go through yep provide documentation that allows for the construction of drainage structures within the licensed area I don't know if

the applicant has the right to install new drainage in there yeah we'll so check that out and if additional licensing needs to be done I'm not saying that the city would be opposed to it but we do want to make sure that guy straight as well yep next one was with regards to massdot jurisdiction along Reagan Avenue when you provide the parking summary actually spell out the calculation but

based upon building square footage sure I don't think the solsted building requires any calculation but the other two buildings 100 Wood yep are there any utility connections going to the that the proposed building any sewer water um that hasn't been electric definitely will water and sewer we haven't discussed um so I I will find out and you may want to get that on here too yep

I know which way you're not going to get there yes that's true yeah um something that I did not add on here and just because we've just dealt with this with the last project that we just dealt with on Bell Rock Road do you have a proposed limit elevation wise for the removal of the ledge because they ended up going about 26 feet into groundwater oh wow yeah yeah so the grading that we're showing on the

plan was not adhered to we'll finish grade doesn't say well what does what does it say the ledge will be removed too so yeah I would assume it you wouldn't be below the existing adjacent grade or at least a healthy distance above groundwater once it's determined yeah yeah our thought is is that where we're going to have asphalt we're going to need to be able to remove it enough to be able to break

or provide room to install the drainage instructions exactly and that's all fine yep that was basically it as far as comments go what I do want to offer to the commission the commission should discuss the proposed intended use and what distance from the resource areas area they deem adequate for meeting the performance standards so they have a limit of work area shown as 25 feet which is the limit of the riverfront

area you also have a 25 foot no touch Zone to a bordering vegetated Wetland but because of the use and the unstable characteristics of the storage area you should really consider whether or not you feel 25 feet is adequate if you feel 25 feet could potentially be adequate with additional controls whether through additional vegetation or I do see that the drainage soil does make an attempt

to capture anything that's running off of this site but what that will do is contaminate the infiltration basin so it's difficult to capture what's going to run off a gravel parking lot and then when you're now directing it to infiltration best management practices not going to last long so you may want to get some consideration to that commission should discuss the types of material allowed to be stored on site

and how they ought to be handled for example the loading and loading of vehicles with salt should only take place within the proposed building so very similar to Apollo I thought commission should discuss the specific buffer zone restoration requirements in addition to what's being proposed shrub plantings at seven foot intervals throughout the area is recommended and as always the agent reserved the

right to further comment upon the receipt of revised plans so I would offer that we've you know we have made a big leap but I do think that the applicant should be provided with some type of direction of whether or not you feel they're close with with 25 feet so that way he can potentially create a com complete set of side drawings of approval okay other than that specific aspect of it

um really just wait upon revised plans but it would be unfair to send them with a checklist and then have you come back in a month and say well 25 is not good enough how many dreams are located uh by The Bins we actually were utilizing swales and let me explain why um so on on the back side of the bins we're actually proposing this is going grass in between and on the back side

the whole way around um so we're looking to pick that that flow up via this whale here and the Swale here to get them into the infiltration Basin I agree with Mr aguiar that the thought process is that the bin the infiltration basins will tend to get dirty quicker the nice part is is that this is a construction yard where they have equipment to readily clean the basins if need be I think that

we would be open to a more rigorous maintenance schedule for those infiltration basins but again we have to dig some test pits in in the area of the basins to make sure that they're sized appropriately and the depths of them are proper um as well do you have the ability Jamie I know along the grass well along Brighton Avenue where you threw in the check Dam with the with the v-notch is

there any way in those other two swales that prior to hitting the infiltration Basin you can maybe we could try something like that yep we can or even if it's even if it looks like behind the series of three along the north you might be able to put in a sediment sump or something you know prior to getting in I don't think you've got room on the on the other end but maybe if you go

aware of one bin at that elbow maybe provide an area where some settling can take place yeah we and we might even be able to put in a four bay type of unit exactly yeah yep I don't think that's an issue at all but what happens is you may or may not know when you're dealing with the page situation or a gravel situation the stormwater rigs are a little bit backwards the amount of treatment you

need to provide off of page surface is greater than what you would need to provide off a gravel surface kind of doesn't make sense right when you're dealing with what's going to wash off a gravel parking lot so we're trying to do as much as we can to make sure anything heading into an infiltration Basin is as clean as you possibly can get it but once we get the soil conditions groundwater depths this may all change

this could be drastically different when we find out if we've got a a water table at two feet for instance you know which may not be unheard of out here but it may not be but until you dig a hole in the ground you don't know yeah so what they proposed so far will protect run off into the quickest hand um no I won't say that no no I think once they potentially make some adjustments

um my biggest concern is the gravel parking area and what's going to be stored on there and what's going to be coming off of machines you know these are excavators they backhoes they drip hydraulic fluid constantly coming off of them so those those types of equipment that close to a resource area like that is significant and concerning so would you need more shrubs so if there's something there's something that can

take up yeah it depends on how Steel the bank is whatever's running off there right well there's not a lot of water that's going to get running over the bank because of the Swale system that's proposed but whatever that Swale system collects is going to make it into the detention ponds which our infiltration basins as well so somewhere along the line a level of contamination greater than if you were parking cars

um could happen So Jamie because I'm not really with the with the nature of the business and a couple of quick questions um the existing building what was that used for prior do we know well I think a little repair it was a trailer repair shop but he passed away I think eight years ago in fact yeah so are there do you know if there are floor drains in there there is no floor

um so let's say for the sake of argument and you may not have the answer to this but we're not comfortable with 25 feet what if we said 50 50 impacts because again I mean we've got a businessman we don't want to discourage business we we want to do things safely right so what would the impact be is it doable with the existing plans of existing plans it's pretty catastrophic for the site

we did look at that because we did get Dan's comments after the last meeting and and we discussed it it really you can see how we are utilizing the majority of the site here um if anything they actually could use additional room but we understand that the constraints that we have we think that we'll be able to find with the commission away to make the 25 feet secure enough and if we've got to beef

up the storm water then that's what we'll do we'll work with Dan to get that done um to a point where the commission is comfortable if possible so I mean I don't speak for the rest of the commission I just need to look at more detail understood spend some time and maybe go out to the site and it's like trucks yeah I I have I have a couple of ideas for possible treatment

I'll run by with Dan but they have like low profile I think they call them pre-text units they're catch facing great you can put in line and it has a sump in it so we'll figure out something to help minimize the um the burden that the infiltration will receive these trucks rolling rolling in and out of there all the time they're stored there is it they're going to be stored there so they'll leave six o'clock in

one they'll go back four o'clock in the afternoon okay and then and those trucks that were directly related to your Opera your business operations if you don't have any more questions please ask the audience if anybody has anyone have any questions in the audience I have one question I've got any storage bins are there uh they'll have a concrete bottom or just the gravel Bond we were just playing around

make it whatever Jamie I also see um there is no gate proposed along the main entrance I know I have spoken to Joe a while ago about the installation of the gate it said we were okay with that but I still see it out of the plan so yeah that will be added that was after my survey crew as well so I don't know I think that's enough to

chew on for the time being but give me a call tomorrow and we can schedule those test bits but I know you've got to get that done as quickly as possible I do appreciate that man you have any other questions for us um did we make a decision on the buffer no I but not until I mean I can't we need to 25 is close but if you can show us drainage but might solve the problem

uh uh take a look at that but I think what might be important is if you dimension yeah taking drainage out of it so to mention the setback from the bins okay or the actual working area of the yard yep and that may give the commission a better understanding of hey what's what's happening outside of this 25 foot restored area is a 20 foot 25 foot Swale yep and then

another 10 feet away from that of the storage bin so that makes sense it makes people you can digest it a little bit easier and get a so provide offset distances to those structures and okay provide some help all right and concrete basis to the storage bins would at the very least Force any water running out of the storage bins to run in the opposite direction of the river and the buffers yep

yeah so we can pitch them and have it run into you know any runoff would run into the gravel a lot and not back the other way so you just put them in I understood the pitch on that degree again just looking at it there will be no fuel storage on this site you're not proposing any diesel tanks for fueling vehicles or yes we do have storage tanks too where are those

where are those proposed to be they're not on the plan we don't we need to know storage of any kind of materials how much is going to be stored size what type of tank things like all right I'll find out we'll add that doors like I on the existing building I don't think the parking layout addresses the the bay doors that are on the easterly side of the building okay correct so you

might want to show what overhead doors are going to be where okay all right for the questions can I have a motion of the tables unfortunate tables yes all right thank you all right thanks thank you thank you next is a notice of intent uh se-24-819 or applicant is try it again go ahead Ty Brio tiberio Jacinto the Portuguese kid got it right on the side yeah project locations 245 Fieldstone Lane eastchester's map is

u-04-0059 filed by Northeast engineer and consultant on behalf of applicant African proposals to install an in-ground pool and surrounding apron patio a portion of proposed work is located within 100 foot buffer zone a border in good shade of wetland this was tabled from April 3rd 23.

good evening for the record Jeff Solomon from Northeast engineers and Consultants oh the applicant on this notice of intent uh since the last time we've met we made some revisions to the plan uh one of the big concerns at the last meeting was the proximity to the proposed retaining wall from The Proposal obtaining wall to the Wetland since the existing deck we had discussed this at the last meeting was only eight

feet off of the line I was kind of agreed upon to hold that as our distance for any proposed improvements so we've revised the plan to show the retaining wall to be eight feet a minimum of eight feet off of the uh the Wetland line and the pool had shifted a little bit to the uh to the West as a result of that still fits on the property um actually no the pool has been

downsized slightly I want to say the the previous version uh might have been 38 feet uh wide where this this one's 32.

so we did downsize the the pool as well and as a result the apron around it and the apron has reduced as well yes the slight reduction in the uh and those are infiltration pavers excuse me the papers yes

let's see you guys have any questions or you want my Spiel uh no you can give your spell I was going to wonder where the uh all the all the filters we're going to put uh but I guess it's going to be when you're still so okay so I recommend the issuance of in order conditions uh with some special conditions at a post and rail fence with us standard resource area signage along

the limit of work uh within 10 feet of the bvw so anywhere where the proposed erosion control barrier Falls within 10 feet of the bvw at construction completion that should be replaced with a posting rail fence in a normal signage a note shall be added stating that all the pool equipment pump filter Etc shall be installed no closer than 25 feet to the BBW all filtered backwash shall be directed

to an underground infiltration Stone pit uh said Pitch shall be no closer than 25 feet to the bvw proposed retaining retaining wall locations shall be revised to accurately depict wall material it does say stone wall on the plan that my site visit today they've already got ready Rock The Lodge concrete blocks already stockpiled on the site so we can just make that change and then label the proposed relocated

infiltration Chambers there is a note saying that the existing are to be removed because they do fall in the location of it and I'm assuming that the other two shown one behind the existing deck and one to the side of the building are the locations of that of the relocated systems that is correct so other than that you know the issues of a revised plan with with these conditions

I don't see an issue with it the only question I have is do we have dimensions on the drywall for the filter back wash um without you know without specifics it could they could normally I think I think we've always thrown like a five by five by five crushed on pit okay it's usually adequate that's fine without that there without us knowing that it could you could scrape a hole in the ground

and throw some stone in there yeah I'll add that to the plan that'll be um the west side of the the property like the southwest corner of where the improvements are proposed in that location in the relocated um infiltration systems are shown on the plan they're just not labeled so I will label them on the revised plan uh the the only question I did have on those uh dance comments was the uh the post and

rail fence um anywhere within 10 feet the existing deck again is only eight feet off of the line um I I wouldn't want to block off access to get to the rear yard all right so start off at that angle point right at that angle point and bring it around to the to the property line on the other side is that yep that's fine okay there wasn't a dimension to the existing

deck so I couldn't tell you how close it was no comment any other questions anybody in the audience audience have any comments any comments from the audience

so can I have a motion to have order conditions uh with the special conditions that we have underneath uh put in motion something second vote aye all right all right all right yes thank you thank you

next is a request for amended order of conditions for se-24-782 owner applicant is massdot Dash Highway division static location in Route 79 to Ball Street census map is n a roadway layout probably last dot requesting Amendment order of conditions Mass data submitting these requests incorporate design changes that are necessary to resolve conflicts with the utilities reduce impacts the resource

associated with the Taunton River and make refinements to the permitted design prior to Construction well they're setting up I'll give you my comments um so everyone in this room into this entire project has kept the city abreast of every situation as we've been going on we meet every Tuesday so you know we were aware that some of these and were involved in some of these project

changes they're all very very minor and in some cases actually improve the impacts on the resource area so I would offer that the uh that the amended ought to be issued really with with no other special conditions other than what's in place but since we have so many people here today it'll be educational I think for everyone here in the audience to get whatever knowledge they can about the project as a whole

lot of things to know last Tuesday um I'm Jonathan kappas I'm the design manager for the project with me is Laura Krauss who represents massdot from beta we can run through this if you want um I think if you want to show them where the changes are you don't have to go through the whole project but just like with your cover letter just just show them where there's another project I'm sure you'd drive through it

we already had somebody complaining about it before you guys got here today the owner of the project onto Wall Street which we'll talk about that tomorrow and uh the spoiler auto repair place the one with the crib cut stuff yeah um so what we're talking about here are the two outpaws uh ones at Remington Ave at the end of Brunel the other one is at the corner of City Pier and Duval southbound

and what we're looking at here is uh both in close up um so we have the city Fair location over here and the Remington Ave outpaw location over here you can see the original limits of the easements that were taken to provide space for both outfalls the rip wrap extended all the way to the end of those easements um what we have as a result of our continued design efforts was a reduction

in those impact areas you can see from this location right here and this location right here it is considerably reduced what I have Chris Naylor here with me who can talk to you more about those details if you like he's our lead civil designer no questions no I don't know I don't know anybody from the audience have a question anyone from the audience so if you have any questions

alrighty thank you I didn't look at the final submission until today so I apologize just want to note that the we had some land such as Coastal storm flow which increases for the bridge and the the Culvert but they're listed and at the bridge it's um to kind of connect an area a small area that wasn't connected or that had to be updated and that was Maybe yeah there were two locations that had

minor lands subject to Coastal storm floors and minor filling in those two locations like those Pines are under here yeah I just wanted to make sure under the bridge we had an increase in Inland subject to Coastal storm Flowage impacts because we had to raise the uh the Culvert a little bit for you to get utilities through soon yeah so it happened when I was right in this location right here there

was a utility conflict with the Culvert um get everything to fit the Culvert had to be a little bit higher thus the land above the Culvert had to be a little bit higher and this is your hornet's nest on the ground everybody's so excited to see how quickly dirt moves you're about to see the heels getting dug in when they start digging holes in point doing what's in the ground so

a lot of the new workers that uh electrical stuff being put in right right everything electrical telephone I see you most of us down is 79 what's there now is that going to be great and lower is that stay the same um I don't know how close you guys to the finished grade at this point but we've got an area close-up presidency let's get the grape we left some soil at

the southern end of the job near the southern U-turn and we're still cutting most of that soil goes north up where we've filled in underneath the viaduct now and even further north once we take that Viaduct down so there's a big cut fill move from south to North the elevation on the North side the site comes up and then we come down to relatively default Street grade to the apostles would have any questions

okay uh can I have a motion to issue a uh Amendment order conditions removed just a second hi hi yes all right thank you thank you thank you all all right next is request return certificate of compliance se-24-788 owner applicants Highland Farms development 2 LLC project locations 164 Fieldstone Lane so this is map of hugh-04-0069 filed by civil environmental consultant Inc on behalf

applicant applicant is requesting a certificate of compliance with the exception of final lawn development on the slot the work authorized under this order condition has been completed in substantial compliance within the order conditions so as did the chairman I went and looked at the site today approximately half of the lot's been loaned and seated when I walked around from the other side of the house

the looming and seating work was not completed and then on top of that there were stockpiled pallets of pavers to put down a new patio so what I would recommend is that this matter be tabled now luckily the patio was not installed yet and this is when so like a lot of the past issues if a property owner had come in before they had done something we should give them the opportunity to file an amended

order of conditions the work being proposed Falls within the previous limit of work however it's not shown on the plan so if they would have gone in and put the patio in I would have recommended they file a new notice of intent for the new work but we're going to try and get in touch with the owners tomorrow and have them request an amendment before they put the papers down but in

any event for what you're looking at tonight the certificate of compliance should be tabled just on the basis that woman seating hasn't been completed okay but we it's quite early enough where no enforcement issues we don't have any enforcement issues and we can hopefully get them to address it sooner than later I did address the 133 location uh I said if your neighbors are doing anything

make sure they contact us yeah and they're slowly learning like like Jeff's applicant tonight with the pool yeah they learned quickly that pool on the side of me with his outdoor pizza oven and all that kind of stuff yeah did not that's we're not bad guys but it's best to come to us before yep you start to work exactly so can I all be conveyed to these people before well it

should be but where I mean that just does I mean no it was the other you know planning so buildings well anybody you can only do that when when they come and ask a question so when they sell a piece of land yeah and they know that there is an order of conditions and that the certificate of compliance has not been issued that there was a wetland permit we can't force the realtor or the Builder to

convey all that information yeah one thing you we can do is that part of because a lot of these they haven't closed yet and that's why we're able to force people's hands because they haven't gone past that yet and so we've held up a lot of closings and it's not good you know on their end to hold up these things but one thing you could have done is when we issue the order of

conditions in the first place it can be that an affidavit gets filed and recorded at the registry prior to the deed being recorded that the buyer is aware of what they're buying up until that point until that closing Point we've got you know people wanting to move in they can't because they don't have a certificate of compliance they call they've got a patio lined up to do the work so we're dealing with Bristol

Pacific who was the response is the developer and who's applied for this we've now got the potential homeowner this isn't Bristol Pacific coming in and doing these patios these pools and everything else what they should do is Bristol Pacific should say you do nothing until we've got our certificate of compliance then you should either reply for your permit or just go do whatever you want but at least at this point

Bristol Pacific is out of it so I I do appreciate Bristol Pacific's effort on a lot of things but there's this there's a bunch of stuff happening before people even own the piece of land like this type of stuff the house on 30 Brookfield Terrace which was the first pool the semi above ground pool they're now on a new engineer putting together in their notice of intent so everybody's still

the same thing with the home that had the larger Wetland alteration the first one yeah so they've all been scrambling to get engineering Consultants yeah you know you see before you you know a bunch of new faces that you don't didn't see before yeah so people are trying to find like we give lists of okay you call these 10 companies and they're slowly finding their way to who responds who doesn't respond so

you'll be routinely routinely seeing the same people back because they're the ones that have responded because this lot has a very small backyard so which one 164. yes yeah well very small on that one corner very very tight yeah so we're gonna have a motion to table nope yeah yep we'll go hi hi hi yes okay uh next we ever see the correspondence review and discussion of notice of chapter 91 license uh application for

fire some cables and system LLC um so you may remember we gave the uh okay for that Beacon Light to be installed so they are now going through their chapter 91 license application for the construction of that as well as you know the step over in Somerset so they send us a copy planning actually has to sign off on it building department has to sign off on it you don't so this is just correspondence

that I would recommend that you accept and place on file if you want to read through what they've given you as a hobby feel free to do it okay we're gonna have a motion to place on file so move second roko I I yes okay next is receipt of correspondent to review and discuss of environmental view records so this is something that gets sent to us by the Community Development agency with regards to their Housing and

Community Development and stuff um something that I don't think you have a concern about it's just different programs methods and annual reviews that that go through our planning process and everybody gets one so yeah again recommend that you just play sound fine motion place on file so moved second rule hi hi yes okay I could have a motion approval for the minutes of April 3rd 2023.

second we'll go hi hi hi yes already no citizen input can I have emotional Journey motion to adjourn second roll call yes