The Fall River City Council held a public hearing, a finance committee meeting, and a regular city council meeting on May 10, 2022. The public hearing addressed nine requests for secondhand article store permits and curb removals, with petitioners like Mallory Rosa, Joaquin Fernandez, Carl Cabucho, Barrett Castro, Michael Mata, Phil Ponte, Kenneth Pereira, and Paulo J Amaral presenting their cases. Most curb removal requests involved expanding existing driveways or creating new ones, often requiring the removal of trees or exceeding standard curb cut lengths. Joaquin Fernandez's request for 178 Lake Ave was adopted pending Zoning Board approval. During the finance committee meeting, citizen Nelson Vasquez criticized Mayor Jasiel Correia for not disclosing the exact tax payment number for the new Durfee High School, threatening legal action. Patrick Higgins submitted a letter raising concerns about an Open Meeting Law complaint, the proposed one-way designation for Granite Street, the reappointment of city employees to the Park Board, and the lack of resumes and political party information for appointment candidates. The committee also discussed a resolution for implementing body cameras for the Fall River Police Department, with Chief Gavin providing an update on grant funding, policy negotiations, and a free pilot program. Transfers of $12,000 for City Council salaries and $871,151 to the school appropriation were discussed, with clarification sought on the source of funds. The full city council meeting saw the confirmation of several appointments, including John Sylvia to the Board of Appeals and Lisa Robitaille to the Board of Election Commissioners, after confirmation of her Republican party affiliation. The council adopted the discussed transfers and appropriations, including $2,511,737 from Community Preservation Act funds for FY2023 projects. They referred traffic ordinance amendments to committee, passed several ordinances through first reading (including water/sewer rates, residential compost recycling, and historical preservation), and adopted resolutions regarding Bristol County ARPA funds and snow removal accountability. A resolution addressing environmental concerns on Stonehaven Road construction passed by a 6-3 roll call vote, despite some councilors' concerns about micromanaging the executive branch. The meeting concluded with the adoption of various licenses, claims, and minutes, and a discussion about the upcoming budget meeting schedule.
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city council public hearing now come to order madam clarke counselors kadeem here camara here dion here kilby lee here pelletier yep herrera proposal and president liberty lebeau here pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any media attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or transmissions are
1:08being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible item one is the second hand article store you have a motion to open the hearing motion open second emotional open the hearing made by counselor poses second by council vice president dion all those in favor all right mallory rosa dba black brick market 415 warren street fall river for permission
1:35to operate and maintain a secondhand article store located at 575 globe street which is closed household items decorations and toys to be sold are there any proponents that are wishing to speak any proponents seeing none other any opponents wishing to speak the hearing made by counselor he'll be seconded by council raposo all those in favor opposed so voted item two is the curb removals motion open motion open second
2:09motion to open the hearing made by counselor poses seconded by councillor pelletier all those in favor aye any opposed item two is joaquin fernandez 40 4380 north main street apartment 402 for the removal of curbing as follows 178 lake ave the petitioner has constructed a horseshoe driveway connecting a 12.7 foot curb cut opening to a 12.4 foot curb opening the total street opening exceeds the allowed 16 feet
2:39as on street parking is not relied about in this neighborhood the city engineer has no objection to this request are there any proponents who would like to speak if you'd like to come down to the
2:59just to the table if you give your name and address for the record please hi my drocom fernandes i'm the owner of the property at 178 lake avenue i'd like to request that the council uh vote favorably on this i built it as a horseshoe because of the positioning of the garage doors it would allow me to more easily back out of the garage and then drive forward onto the street rather than backing around
3:27onto the street around the curved area lake avenue does not have a problem with having a need for on-street parking as that neighborhood pretty much everyone has driveways and garages that they park in so i would hope for a favorable vote on this matter thank you thank you thank you any other proponents wishing to speak any other proponents any opponents wishing to speak seeing none motion or closing
3:56motion to close the hearing made by counselor seconded by councillor pelletier all those in favor all right are you opposed so voted item three is another curb cut yes second motion open the hearing made by councillor kilby seconded by councillor pozo all those in favor opposed carl let me say this wrong cabocho 1297 north main street for the removal of curbing as follows property is 1297 north main street the
4:25petitioner has an existing 13-foot driveway on the northeast side of the property and is requesting removal of 16 feet for an additional driveway on the south side of the property for a total of 29 feet the new opening will access a proposed new parking area if allowed the applicant shall install an entirely new concrete driveway apron within the right-of-way with appropriate ramps on
4:46each side and repair all sidewalks roadway and curbing affected by this construction are any proponents wishing to speak any proponents seeing that any opponents wishing to speak any opponents saying none of your clothes emotional clothes the hearing made by councilor pozzo seconded by councillor kilby all those in favor hi any opposed they voted item four is another curb cut removal motion open
5:10emotional open made by councillor poso seconded by councillor kilby all those in favor aye are you opposed and in four is barrett castro 554 reading street for the removal of curbing as follows the petitioner has an existing 12-foot driveway and is requesting removal of an additional 14 feet to the north side of the existing driveway for total opening of 26 feet this will require the removal of a large
5:36tree within the right of way the expanded opening will align with the existing driveway on the private property it would serve if allowed the applicant shall install an entirely new concrete driveway apron within the right-of-way with appropriate ramps on each side and repair all sidewalks curbing and roadway affected by this construction there are any proponents wishing to speak any proponents
5:59any opponents wishing to speak seeing them motion to close motion to close the hearing made by counselor pogo circa seconded by counselor kilby all those in favor aye any opposed so voted item six is the curb cut motion open motion open the hearing made by council raposo second second abide counselor pelletier all those a favor any opposed michael mata 388 quincy street for the removal of curbing as follows
6:26388 quincy street the petitioner has an existing 16-foot opening that provides access to an existing garage and concrete driveway area the applicant proposes to extend the existing curb opening an additional 13 feet to the north for a total opening of 29 feet the new driveway would be constructed in an area that is currently lawn and will connect to an existing concrete driveway any proponents wishing to speak
6:51any opponents wishing to speak seeing none motion or close enough close the hearing cycle
7:08emotional clothes made by counselor poses second by counsel kiwi all those in favor opposed
7:27motion opened made by kelser vice president dion seconded by council raposo all those in favor any opposed so i just did five so i need to do four you did four five i did four yes barrett castro 554 reading street for the removal of curbing as follows this time it's on valentine's street side the petitioner has an existing 11 and a half foot driveway and is requesting removal of an
7:55additional 8.5 feet to the west side of the existing driveway for a total opening not to exceed 20 feet this will require the removal of a large tree within the right of way the expanded opening will align with the existing driveway of the private property it would serve if allowed the applicant shall install an entirely new concrete driveway apron within the right of way with appropriate ramps on each
8:16side and repair all sidewalks curving and roadway affected by this construction any proponents wishing to speak seeing none any opponents wishing to speak seeing them emotionally i'm sorry counselor at c2 council camara what's the address on valentine's street there's no address mental clerk it's actually a corner lot counselor so one writing in valentine so his address is 554 reading but it's a a horseshoe driveway
8:52so one is on the valentine's street side and one is on the reading street side thank you the yield counselor yes counselor in c2 council vice president dion so on one side of his property he wants a 26 foot opening and on the other side of the corner he wants a 20 foot opening it's going to go from reading to valentine yes and it requires 26 feet on one side and 20 feet on the other
9:24that seems like a lot of driveway all right with that i yield anything further from the cows thank you cultural close promotional closing remained by councillor kilby second second of my counselor proposal all those in favor aye opposed so voted okay just on that point sorry just a point of clarification it's a total of 20 feet right right no is that on what on valentine's day i'm 126 feet to our heads in the corners
10:03it's already existing on both sides he's writing both sides do we yield counselor i do counselor in seat five counseling in uh full council when it comes up if um if a counselor wants to make a referral would the uh would public works be the appropriate okay thank you i yield anything further item seven phil ponte 500 stayed up for the removal of carving as follows your emotion open motion open emotional open
10:34hearing made by counselor second second by council vice president dion all those in favor all right any opposed so voted 500 state ave the petitioner has an existing 26 foot curb opening and driveway to the east of the existing multi-family dwelling that provides access to an existing garage and provides on-street parking the applicant is proposing the removal of 16 feet of granite curb to create an additional
10:57driveway to the west of the existing structure this new driveway would be constructed in an area that is currently lawn the total curb opening for the parcel would be 42 feet any proponents wishing to speak any proponents any opponents wishing to speak seeing none emotionally second emotional close the hearing made by counselor poster seconded by counselor pelletier all is in favor all right and he posed so voted
11:22item eight is a curb cut motion open the hearing made by counselor poses seconded by counselor pellets here all those in favor any opposed i didn't make kenneth pereira 515 smith street for the removal of curbing as follows at 515 smith street the petitioner has an existing 16-foot driveway and is requesting removal of another six feet to the south side of the existing opening for a total opening of 22 feet
11:47the expanded opening will align with the existing driveway on the private property it would serve if allowed the applicant shall install an entirely new concrete driveway apron within the right of way with appropriate ramps on each side and repair all sidewalks roadway and curbing affected by this construction are any proponents wishing to speak any opponents wishing to speak made by council raposo seconded by
12:12councillor kilby all those in favor all right any opposed so voted item nine is a curb cut motion open motion open area made by council raposo second seconded by councillor kilby all those in favor any opposed item nine apollo ammerol 110 andrews street the address is 110 andrews street the petitioner has an existing 20-foot driveway on the northerly side of the property and is requesting removal of 10
12:38feet for an additional driveway on the south side of the property for a total of 30 feet the new opening will access the proposed new parking area if allowed the applicant shall install an entirely new concrete driveway apron within the of way with appropriate ramps on each side and repair all sidewalks roadway and curbing affected by this construction are there any proponents wishing to speak
13:00any opponents wishing to speak seeing them motion to close emotional close the hearing made by council raposo second seconded by counselor pelletier all those in favor all right any opposed so voted do you have a motion to adjourn publication motion adjournment by council raposo seconded by council vice president dion all those in favor any opposed so voted
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14:00it city council committee on finance will now come to order madam clerk council is kadeem also
14:28yep and president la liberty level here pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible i don't want a citizen's input we have
14:49one person signed up to speak nelson vasquez 210 sunset hill the subject is derpy tax payment
15:04and when you're ready you have three minutes
15:13uh madame president uh i have a a request that my time start after i play this video because it's pretty informative for the the public at large in regards to this topic emotional waves of rules motion away from the rules made by council lee a little after a minute excuse me a little after a minute a little after a minute rules made by council lee it's it's straight to the point was our second
15:43second second by council vice president dion all those in favor aye aye any opposed so voted go ahead over a month full river taxpayers will vote on whether to move forward to build a new durfee high school the plan to replace the 40 year old building has been in the works for a few years now but recent flooding at the school has further illustrated how much a new building is truly needed eyewitness news
16:07reporter michaela mcdonald has more new at 5 30.
16:12a special election is scheduled for march 6 to vote on the proposed new school today we spoke with fall river's mayor about the proposal mayor jaisal correa says fall river is ready for a new durfee high school the school is literally falling apart you walk the halls of durfee high school and it's again outlasted its useful life you may remember seeing this video on eyewitness news a few weeks ago an
16:35estimated 50 thousand gallons of water leaked out from a burst pipe in durfee high school aging pipes were blamed for the mess besides the flood school officials say they've also had problems with the roof and windows we had a flood that was such an unfortunate event that was obviously unpredictable but just continues to show the aging infrastructure that's there and that flood really destroyed many of the
16:56science classrooms here are the renderings for the proposed new 263 million dollar high school posted on the district's website the mayor says the commonwealth would pay for almost 65 percent of the cost leaving a remaining balance of roughly 95 million for fall river it's just going to be a state of the art school with all the bells and whistles but still at an affordable price for our community while other
17:18communities are looking for tax overrides they'll cost taxpayers you know two three hundred dollars a year our school we're looking to hopefully be at a hundred dollars or less a year that's our kind of our target we might be at 110 120 a year annually as a payment for the school we're told there will be multiple special city council meetings to provide more information about this project to
17:37the public if approved construction could start as early as next year michaela mcdonald eyewitness news now as promised i provided an email of the exact number that the city approved before the vote took place back in 2018.
17:56so two articles and still paul has not came down with that number and from from what i see is that a budget has been put together and to my recollection he still has not came down here with that number that he said he was proud to do he has a fiduciary obligation to show this body that number he has a duty to do it and he still has not done that which is appalling because
18:23he campaigned on transparency so here's the thing the jig is up with his games of stonewalling this council there's a disrespect to this council to hold it up if this mayor does not come down with that number and continues to procrastinate on behalf of the citizens of accountability for uh responsible government there will be legal action taken against him because i find it appalling that the
18:53people don't know what they're gonna be paying towards durfee they have a right to know and i think it's upon this council to take that stand and to force him to come down with that number that's on his desk it's not like he can't find it he said it's on his desk so it's upon this council to do his job and have respect for all of you i really do but this the people need to know
19:22what that number is so paul it's up to you are you going to force the taxpayers to to pay for a lawsuit because you don't want to do your job because we all know what it's about the number is more than 115 dollars for to give out more of his friends for his for pay raises that's not what they voted for so i hope that this council will do his job
19:46but in the end it's up to paul to do his job to come down here so the clock is ticking and we have a deadline in mind so i really hope that he will do his job and live up to his word because your word is bond in this world and especially telling the people how much they're supposed to pay that's their money think of your time thank you we have one item that was submitted
20:15which i will read for madam clerk fall river city council i have several issues with the agenda for tonight's meeting first i want to start by stating the open meeting law complaint listed on the agenda as item 31 was not issued against the fall river city council it was issued to the subcommittee on ordinances and legislation it has to be dealt with by the subcommittee in compliance with the determination letter
20:392022-85 on april 22nd i strongly recommend the full council not deal with this complaint at all if you all do that would be an intentional violation of the open meeting law and a formal complaint will be issued tomorrow next issue deals with agenda item number nine designating granite street as a one-way from purchase street to rock street this makes no sense at all when a customer such as i goes to use the drive
21:02up banking options at mechanics bank we can currently exit the bank by turning right or left on granite street i personally choose to turn left as it allows me to then turn on purchase street either right or left i have the option of turning right and proceeding to high street to return to my residence on robeson street with expediency i also have chosen to turn left on purchase take a ride on bedford and then
21:25proceed to the south main north main or milliken boulevard this making granite street one way forces bank customers to have to take a right get stuck at a new stop sign also propose tonight and then be forced to take a right onto rock and having to deal with the traffic light at rock and bedford next issue is the reappointment to the park board of vic de farias and jeffrey sylvia i have several issues with these
21:48appointments first off they are both city employees and the charter does not allow for them to hold both city employment and be members of the park board several years ago there were five appointments made to comply with state law a one two three four and five-year appointment so that one seat would expire every year and be appointed for the five-year term required by state law
22:08i should also point out that the members of the park board are in violation of state laws since the members have never been designated as special municipal employees and amber burns and joseph de silva are also both employees of the fall river housing authority how soon we forget that things were done to get back into compliance and then we violate state laws again last week i attended a webinar training
22:28on the open meeting law and one issue with that was raised with the availability of resumes of candidates for appointment to positions the open meeting law has stated that these resumes our public records open the open meeting law none of the candidates for appointment resumes are included in the agenda packet item 1b has an appointment to the board registrar of voters there is not listed on the agenda what
22:50political party this person is registered to nor how long they have been registered as a democrat or republican remember you can only have two of each party and they have to have been a registered member of the party for over a year to be qualified for this appointment also the resume has also not been provided another open meeting law violation sincerely yours patrick higgins anything further madam clerk
23:13no madam president counselor in c3 council vice president diaz yeah the only comment i would like to make is i have to agree to a point with mr higgins in this case in terms of granite street there wasn't information in the packet um i'm just going to speak for myself you know when you make mistakes you own up to mistakes i should have paid attention and uh known exactly what the situation was because in hindsight
23:48i believe i don't have an issue with that being a one way i think it should be a one way in the other direction it should be westerly not easterly because it is true it does give you more options i think it's a better traffic flow and i think um it's going to create bottlenecks and i don't think it was the best decision and had i thought of that in advance i would have
24:09voted opposite what i did so just to set the record straight and with that i yield thank you counselor anything further hang on close to present counselors heat six you know i heard a few grumbles about this as well why don't we just send him back to um traffic and see if it's the right thing to do would that be uh when we get to it we can counselor that is uh in full council under
24:48ordinances and legislation under the committee reports we can discuss it and decide what to do with it then i have trouble hearing you my dear it's in full council under committee reports for ordinances we can decide we can discuss and decide where we'd like to send it at that point if it's the will of the council thank you thank you anything further saying nothing item two is a resolution the
25:15administration consider implementing the use of body cameras by the fall river police department this was referred january 18th 2022 if the city administrator and police chief gavin would come down to the table please the resolution is whereas the city of fall river has received multiple requests from citizens to increase and improve transparency regarding public safety now therefore be a result that the
25:39administration consider implementing the use of body cameras by the fall river police department to increase transparency and to further protect both the citizens and police officers in any disputes this was filed by councillor lee chief government thank you for being here good evening thank you for your invitation if you wouldn't mind giving the council an update on where this process is
26:04so as you uh are all aware we received the grant back in december for 201 thousand dollars for a body worn camera program that we know uh cost approximately 1.3 million dollars in accepting that grant prior to getting the award uh we have to have an agreement with superiors an agreement with patrol and we have to have a full policy in place um at this point uh we're still in negotiations uh we do have a 14-page
26:36document for a policy and it's just a matter of getting the finalities of these matters together but we're a lot closer to the end than we were at the beginning council in seat five the the sponsor of the resolution counselor lee yes i have you very limited in what you could explain to us jesus sorry counselor counselor lee was first i'll have you second thanks man no i and um i just wanted to
27:03say thank you for updating us on the situation here because um when this was when this was talked about in january and you and i went to a meeting um recently where that's one of the former counselors was there and he happened to mention that this was going to sit in audience for a long period of time i was sitting um subcommittee for a long period of time but i really appreciate
27:21the fact that uh you've been active on this and uh my only question right now is um that pilot program that was um that was talked about over the past few years um is that a part of this process right now so you're absolutely correct counselor it is uh so where we are right now as far as uh going back we do have all the equipment in-house for the pilot program uh we've also renegotiated with axon
27:47which was going to charge anywhere between 14 to 40 000 for the pilot program uh we've successfully renegotiated with them where they're going to do it to uh give it to us for free at this point we still have to go through negotiations but we're we're ready to go forward with the pilot program i believe what we're waiting for is for the superior officers to uh have their contract ratified when
28:14that happens then we'll start the pilot program so regarding the pilot program specifically there hasn't there is no more disputing it's just more of a process now well we still have to finalize uh the pilot program uh policy which is very close to the wider program but i think we're really close and it's speaking to the union president the other day jonathan ferrera we both agreed that we are really close with the
28:39policy so i'm not really concerned at this point i appreciate that thank you i yield you're welcome thank you counselor council reading c4 councillor kilby i apologize constantly thank you for the resolution thank you um i i'm just go by my comment you're ready very limited what you can explain to us at this point because you already having collective bargaining so that's true we
28:59all understand that um the only question i have the pilot program how much is that going to cost us the pilot program is going to cost us zero we renegotiated with axon that was going to be anywhere between fifteen thousand to forty thousand dollars depending on the length of the program uh they've agreed to do it uh for nothing and that renegotiation that we had with them okay great that's all
29:19questions thank you councilman seat two council camara thank you thank you chief you mentioned it with 1.3 million for the program correct what does that include just purchasing the cameras or that's everything soup to nuts pretty much that's the docking stations that's the cameras themselves uh that's the licenses and the data storage as well one time cost what about annual cost after that
29:41to maintain it after the five years uh we renegotiate with axon now we're rolling into data storage right now we're going into data storage with zero but as you know after five years correct so zero that is do we want to dinosaur zero four or five years no going into a new we have zero data storage okay in five years we'll have five years of data storage so that's going to be a little bit of a
30:06negotiation has there been any numbers thrown out as to what that cost was going to be no okay all right thank you chief i just have one question once everyone is in agreement how long will it take for you to implement the program once uh once i have the the necessary pieces in place i plan on uh rolling out the program the next day okay councilman c one counselor thank you chief for coming down um i
30:34appreciate that this is a sensitive topic since we are in negotiations however um if i touch on anything that is obviously collective bargaining just uh throw something at me i'll duck out of the way no problem in terms of the pilot how many how many offices do we think are going to be doing the the actual pilot itself right now i believe we're at seven seven police officers correct okay
30:56um so that's that's all we have for equipment is just obviously it's gonna be addition extras maybe but correct just enough to cover for seven so um do we anticipate assuming that the pilot program itself is successful and obviously we buy into it uh what the associated costs would be after the five years that's a difficult uh pin to place there because they're going to be all kinds of different anomalies
31:24here how many people are in the market to get the cameras i mean right now massachusetts i think we only have 10 of the communities that have body-worn cameras in their uh departments so as this goes on depending on where that number is depending on the market share for axon it could be you know off the charts it could be reasonable uh really difficult for me to say and i know somewhat to the point of the
31:50policy um you know some of it obviously has to be negotiated or at least impact bargain uh with the unions but the policy you're putting in is specifically for the pilot or is it something that could carry over to the actual camera program yeah i mean it's it's it's for the pilot program right now but it's going to roll right into the larger uh program it's it's all the same um but really the
32:15difficulty is you're negotiating a policy you know in theory so whenever you're negotiating a policy it's easier if i can dictate uh to my members uh you know what the rules are but now we have to negotiate so that'll continue on right now we're trying to create a policy with a system that we're really not all too familiar with so i suspect that we'll negotiate a policy just enough to get the pilot program through
32:44i'm sure in a larger context for the negotiation they'll sign off but really at the end of the day it's going to be a lot of cooperation between the administration and the patrol union and the superior officers union to change that policy as we go on because it is a living breathing document and we can't forecast every single issue that we're going to come into so we're trying to do our best to hit all
33:07the corners and to you know hit the highlights but i know going forward that there are going to be other issues that we're going to have to go back and say hey we really need this in the policy um so just in terms of the and if you don't if you haven't gotten this far that's that's fine but i'm just curious in terms of the actual footage in the in the uh the recording piece is it
33:29are we looking to have it turned on um manually is it going to be on 24 7 just curious in terms of that that's all that's all part of the bargain you're five years i didn't discuss that your five-year data storage is going to be uh correct philosophically if if we were to have a body camera system where we were recording 24 7 that would be a incredible amount but we do
33:55have it does have the ability to purge uh you know non-necessary uh pieces right and i guess i would just caution and i'm sure you're having those conversations but i mean you know when an officer goes into somebody's home for a medical response obviously this hipaa um you're not supposed to be really technically recording for that so in terms of documentation so i'm just i was just curious as to where we were going
34:16with that and and costs associated with it for the program itself i know at some point with this whole police reform law and and post coming down that most likely going to be man mandatory for all the communities so i i appreciate and applaud you trying to get ahead of it um just really trying to identify uh some anticipated costs you know five years out in terms of what we're looking at
34:38yeah that that's that is the you know the uh anticipated um scary part of this is that in five years where will we be and how much will we be i guess you know held that hostage for continuing continuing a bodywork camera program i mean that's really you know just like anything else once you go with it it's almost like you get tied to it but we'll see where we are maybe we'll be
35:04renegotiating with another company that all depends on where the system goes well i don't i don't ever you uh you got a lot on your on your plate uh body one cameras atvs and everything else that we're hearing about so uh keep up the good work and if there's anything that you need in terms of the body one cameras and and funding of that you know i think it makes sense uh in
35:24terms of making sure our offices are protected and then you know also the general public so i think it's a win-win across across the board for full transparency um so with that that yields thank you counselor counselor and c3 council vice president dion good evening thank you good evening um in terms of the policy do we have any other localities and municipalities that you've been able to
35:45attempt to model our policy after or we are are we in the forefront of this generally speaking um i want to be careful here but generally speaking there are large national organizations that have model policies and for something like this we tend to take uh you know a larger chunk of what they have but then we try to you know just go through it a little bit and try to make it a little bit more
36:12comfortable for our locale on the administrative side moving forward if this i if when this comes to fruition moving forward beyond the five years do you see areas that we can tap into to help defray the cost of this moving forward so i think what councilor kadeem said about the likelihood that very soon in the next several years this is going to become mandatory for every police force in the commonwealth
36:45as a true statement and i think along with that comes the recognition that there's a significant expense tied to it so i wouldn't be too surprised if there weren't grants and other opportunities for funding that come from that as well as the potential reduction in cost that comes with volume so right now you have a reasonably fledgling industry in commonwealth of massachusetts i think five years from now that's going
37:14to be a very different scenario where i think you're going to have possibly more players more competitive prices and at the end of the day this is different than you know any of the discretionary things we might talk about this is going to become the cost of doing business this is going to become the professional norm in policing it is essential to protect the officers and it is essential to protect the public and so
37:43um i think when you add all those things together uh that this isn't a luxury this is not a nice to have this is have to have um what you're going to see is is ultimately something that has to become more affordable and accessible for every community so i i believe that's what's going to happen and i'm sure it's going to become um much larger than seven people on a shift
38:08that'll have to have the body cams as well i would assume it would become a either a larger percentage or across the entire complement correct that would be a comprehensive uh policy and program okay with that i deal thank you thank you anything from counselor in seat six or eight before i recognize counselor in seat six again counselor in seat six i'm sorry before i recognize counselor lee
38:30again counselor and seat six you get me confused i got confused myself counselor i'm sorry i'm looking right at you i know we're both chubby butt i'm seat number six i can i see the number what i wanted to ask has been answered a little bit is every patrolman going to have a camera correct okay is it their camera personally uh you get the tasers they take them home right negative sir they don't take them
39:02correct okay so the cameras the cameras will be assigned to each individual uh police officer part of the license and part of the uh intel side of this is that each device will have its own profile so you'd have to go in and assign uh through the serial number to a particular police officer all right so i got a camera assigned to me i go home for the day correct where's the camera go
39:29well we haven't worked out all those matters some of them can be hit there at station they may start the station or some of them can be brought with the police officer depending on what his day is going to be whether he's working details or what have you for that evening but it's it's theirs you know we're assigning it's a piece of their equipment going forward so they can bring it home
39:50you expect them to wear it on details as well is that what you're saying oh that will be in the policy that will be negotiated if we decide to do that no you got the higher ups deputy chief and everybody that's in the police station they don't get one today well any police officer who's going to be on the street enforcing the law they will be wearing a camera okay we got vice that uh go out
40:16i guess i got a camera all the time but they are erupt i mean they get one as well that would all be subject to bargaining of the policy yeah all right i guess it could save us some money it costs us a lot of money with everything that's going on uh throughout the world the united states it's always somebody getting shot uh something you know done something wrong it's stay warm against yours
40:45and if you got the tape it's there now if they go to a situation can they forget to put the camera on are you asking me if they can forget yeah it doesn't go on automatic right no they're they're manually operated yeah yes so they're manually operated uh there are some pieces of the system for instance there is a plastic device that gets put on your uh your holster so if you were to draw your firearm
41:20your camera would automatically go on so there's a sensor there we're also looking down the road at some tasers there are particular tasers from axon that when one individual powers the taser on it sends out a almost like a bluetooth signal and any camera that's within that locale will automatically turn on as well so you're saying pretty well they got the cameras the city going to be
41:46covered it's the best that we can afford here the best we can think of well i'd like to see it run run the right way and if you need it that's good we'll get enough lawsuits in the city of poverty already we don't need any more and if we can get grants to try to make it easier for the police department and the city of florida that's what we should do and
42:11i think all together i mean we have to back this up and uh it's good for the citizens of florida as well with that i said enough i yield thank you council council and seat eight councillor pogo chief just for a quick question you mentioned about data storage is there a timeline of how much we have to hold on to like for example you know data let's say we start
42:34tomorrow how long do we have to hold on to that data from tomorrow is there a set period of time is that something you're going to set through the policy is that well there's certain certain pieces that we can negotiate and there's certain pieces that i imagine would be according to state law okay but there is at least somewhat of a set standard of what that looks like there there absolutely will be excellent i yield
42:54thank you thank you councilman c5 council lee when i was uh speaking with the previous chief about this pilot program in the past um it was said to me that the cda was involved in the funding mechanism at that time has that changed is that is that part of this process as well correct we were successfully able to negotiate that price out okay great um regarding that last question my counselor in uh cd um
43:21this data i mean i know this is this we might be going into a realm of like where you can't inform me on this but this data could be valuable to more than just the current uh police department this could be this could be valuable in court cases and things like that right correct okay i anticipate i anticipate that once we get this system up and running even the pilot program
43:43that uh we are going to see a uh an abnormal spike uh in public record requests for these uh pieces and my guess is and again we don't know for sure but maybe funding wise if other entities want this data that could be something where the city could benefit from that if they want the data when you say other entities meaning meaning if we're responsible for paying for data as a city but other entities
44:14are using it maybe more than one entity can help pay for the data i mean i don't again i might be right i'm not sure where the other entities would come from because it imagined most of his public record anything like that so with the with regard to the da's office uh discovery request to the police couldn't come with a fee um well yeah so so there's that but if you're talking about other entities
44:39i think if and this is a huge if if the data that we're talking about can be considered a public record then it has to be covered by the public record rules all right and those rules are uh that the city has to give the requester two hours of its time accessing the records for free and then afterward can charge a certain fee okay a maximum fee i believe of 25 dollars an
45:02hour and if they want a fee extension to charge more based upon some specialized knowledge that has to be brought to bear by somebody in it or whatever else then you would petition the attorney or the secretary to allow you to charge more so i don't know that there is any sort of uh other way that we could charge for that information um and i don't know that we would want anyone to have any
45:29reason to say that they have control or a right to the information other than the law enforcement entity who has the most interest in maintaining the sanctity of the information the veracity of what it shows and all that okay i appreciate custody i appreciate that thank you very much i yield thank you counselor anything further from the council saying nothing this was just on for
45:52discussion if we let it be it goes away or we can table it in committee second ocean table made by councillor kamara seconded by council lee all those in favor any opposed so voted thank you chief thank you thank you item three is transfers and appropriations these are items three and four under priority matters cfo will join us
46:30item three isn't the mayor and order transferring twelve thousand dollars from city council expenses to city council salaries
46:46and miss allman if you'd like to explain so it's my understanding that there was a council member that retired or left the council and this was a i mean an employee and this was the retirement buyout so this line was over so we have to do a tran we're doing a transfer just to make this line whole councilman seat six house pelletier you say a city counselor employee employee an employee employee in the in this in
47:14the city council department council there's a letter on the second page i thought it was one of us getting paid you know what i mean you know we lost one so i figured this pick for 21 000 jesus i'm getting ready to retire okay no problem your yield counselor anything further saying nothing item four and the next one has to do with um making the school's hole for some funds
47:49that we it was discovered that we owed back to them so that transfer is just going over to the schools and i believe that this was discussed prior i think you'll recall a few weeks ago we had a conversation about maybe it was 1.4 million dollars to come satisfy a portion of our net school spending obligation this 871 thousand is the balance of that to bring us to zero uh so we are 100 percent
48:19on our net school spending obligation we had talked a little bit about um how that came to be i think a few weeks ago does everyone recall that conversation yes i believe that was the um fy 2021 obligation correct to the school department that's right i yield thank you so this is um two parts it's 21 151 dollars appropriated to school appropriation from the fy 21 surplus revenue and 850 000
48:54be appropriated to the school appropriation from state and county assessments for a total of seventy 871 thousand one hundred and fifty one dollars is there anything further from the council concerns seat one council kadeem i just need uh clarification so what is i guess i'm not familiar with fy21 surplus revenue what what is that so the surplus revenue is i mean that's the free cash or oh free cash and then the so
49:28i guess should we not stay free cash because i mean free cash is is a combination of revenue and expenditures right so would we not typically just well so i mean because the audit the year is closed or the audit so now it becomes i i guess the name becomes its surplus revenue so i mean it's the surplus from that year it'll then move coming to the number for our free cash for fy 22.
49:56okay so it hasn't been it has it been certified as free cache or i don't know no no so this is so the surplus from fy21 with the audit that we just looked at the last meeting so at this point it's considered surplus so then now this the net amount of that will then be included in what we certify for free cash for fy22 to going into fy 23.
50:16so i don't know how i mean ed and i discussed it and he felt that that was surplus revenue was the appropriate term so fy 21 surplus revenue so not this fiscal year last fiscal year that's how i understood it we haven't i thought we've received our certification for recash fy21 i could be totally wrong but when we were just talking about it um prior to the meeting i don't think that i don't
50:40think this cache has been certified yet so it's possible i just i've just number i guess one number one i've never seen surplus revenue for any appropriation i'm just trying i guess trying to understand that and then for so is your question whether it's actually 22 rather than 21 because that would make more sense if that hasn't been because i had wouldn't have been certified yet correct right but
51:03that wouldn't be surplus cash at this point because the fiscal year's not over yet yeah so i believe this is 21. i just think it might be an odd turn or phrase i think maybe we're just trying to get something started here that is not going to catch on and it's just going to just close the gap for the schools i'm just used to if it's free cash we appropriate free cash for i just try i'm
51:21just trying to understand the the surplus revenue portion of it that's all i just um and then i guess the the 850 uh for state and county assessment so we received an additional 850 thousand dollars so we have availability in that account to use towards this so um ed did work on this and he discussed this in length with the schools and then he looked at our you know we looked at our
51:48budget on the general fund and this is where we identified to be able to transfer from uh it's a little unexpected because it's you know receiving the letter from dor from or i guess i'm not i just i'm not trying to make a big issue i've never seen state and county assessments being appropriated right it's usually an appropriation at the at the beginning of the year so we take the assessments
52:22and as part of the appropriation order for the entire budget i guess it's just so i can i'm just i'm just trying to understand the the 850 i i would think that the a50 has already been committed as part of revenue for the balancing of the fy 22 budget so i can look in and discuss that with that and okay and what his rationale and we can certainly give you a call yeah perfect that
52:44we're still a bit of a transition here so no it's okay i'm not patient truly not trying to make any issues i just it's not making sense point of information i yield you have a point of information counselor so if in reality it would be viewed as free cash but it's not certified how can you spend free cash that's not certified because it you don't have it if it hasn't been
53:12certified surplus from from fy21 that we that we now we had the audit finalized so we know we have that surplus so so i think i might have muddied the water here i think i misunderstood what councilor kadeem was asking and i was saying that any surplus revenue purported surplus revenue right now from this fiscal year isn't certified yet because the fiscal year's not over but what's really going on is that this
53:38money is from 21 not 22 which would have been certified last what october or november or november around around there so that that uh that was just my i misunderstood the question so this is this is certified money this is true free cash the fact that it's being called surplus revenue uh i think is probably the the point of not contention but the the the thing that might be a little bit
54:05misleading here and it's it's not meant to be this is free cash that would have been certified last fall okay so if it was certified as free cash then it's free cash which normally would be transferred it's not surplus money it can only be one or the other it can't be it can't mix and it can't be both that's true so it's either certified or it's not if it's certified it's free cash if it's not certified
54:32you can't spend it as free cash yeah i think i think we need some clarification on this with that i yield thank you counselor c2 council camara so typically what we do is what we have free cash and we don't use it we put in a stabilization account correct so surplus money i mean i know it's a new term but i agree my colleague we don't use that terminology too the free cash for stabilization
54:54i i'm gonna um confirm with ed tomorrow and get you all right clarification do we know what we're asking to be certified in this coming budget coming up i don't know that won't happen until october november you won't have any idea that's how diy that's how it works okay so usually that's how we we typically call it free cash and whatever you have left over for cash you can usually put it into a stabilization
55:21account for a specific purpose um that's how it used to be done with that i yield thank you anything further from the council counselor and seat five councils just based on the conversation between the counselors if we were to uh table this until the counselors get their clarification are we on our backs against the wall for this transfer are we able to you know have that time period
55:46well the schools are looking at to get it as soon as possible so they can spend it yeah and we're getting close to the end of the year okay well so i'll let the council you know so it's on for discussion in finance it's also in full committee so if they're able to get the question answered before we get to it in full committee we could have them coming down otherwise
56:06we could table and would be on for the next meeting okay thank you thank you concert seat too council camara yeah look real simple it's just a matter of mischaracterizing the wording of how where the money is but the school needs it we have it let's give it to them and let's not hold it up because of that technicality we'll figure it out with that idea thank you anything further from the council thank you
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1:04:03the regular meeting of the city council will now come to order madam clerk counselors kadeem here camara here dionne here kilby yep lee here pelletier yeah pereira raposo yeah president lola b lebeau here but everyone in the chamber please rise for a moment of silent prayer
1:04:30and remain standing for a salute to the flags
1:04:46pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible madam clerk the first item before you is the mayor's request for the appointment of john
1:05:10sylvia to the board of appeals also confirmed second motion to confirm made by councillor kilby seconded by council vice president dion any discussion all those in favor you have a discussion counselor seat six how do you wanna ask a question concert seat six is there supposed to be a republican and two democrats on that thing that's the next court of appeals oh this the board appeals that one's coming
1:05:36i'm ahead you are i'm the head of the class are you anything further from the council all those in favor any opposed you guys have is mr sylvia here thank you mrs sylvia thank you congratulations thank you for coming also madam clerk um the item number two is the mayor's excuse me 1b is the mayor's request for the confirmation of lisa robitaille to the board of election commissioners confirmed me by council kilby
1:06:13second by councillor pelletier any discussion counselor six times what this is the board of elections this is the one yes it is yeah is it two two democrats or we need you need uh a republican and and uh whatever two republicans and republicans in two so what's the status with these individuals um i will tell you that ms robitaille is uh fulfilling the vacancy um caused by the resignation of manual
1:06:45leet so i will assume that she is filling the republican seat so it's right then it should be right it should be right counselor but it does not say yeah all right i'm having trouble with you i'm asking you but you say it's right i'm off the hook how are you does not say that on this um on the appointment letter but i am assuming that she is filling the republican seat
1:07:15as emmanuel lee was the repub did fill that republican seat on the board so he's a republican okay he was a republican but we don't have it does not say whether ms robitel is a republican is she here should we wait i know there's other counselors that want to speak counselor are you thank you counselor counselor c3 council vice president dion yeah um personally i'd like to get confirmation on that and
1:07:47not go by assumption um because within this it stated that she approached the city and said it was something that she would like to do perhaps it's not something that she was aware of maybe i mean anything is possible but um where yeah where it should be two and two i i think we should have the clarification if we can get it fine and if not we'll make a motion a table and get the clarification
1:08:13i think there's more counselors that would like to speak and also the city administrator is motioning that wasn't a formal motion we have a motion to wave the rules yeah emotion made emotional wave of the rules made by counselor lee seconded by council kilby all those in favor any opposed no tony aiken
1:08:40so just for the record uh this person is a republican um was is not a friend or acquaintance of the mayor but was identified um as having uh made herself known in the past and so she is a republican for the purpose of filling the republican slot thank you question and um and i'm not not to nitpick i just want to get things right especially with elections um and she's been a republican for the
1:09:07for the lard allotted time that she was supposed to be prior to this more than a year more than a year yes okay awesome thank you with that i yield thank you counselor counselor and seat five council lee i retract i i was also under the same impression that we did not have that information i was not going to vote on it until we did so thank you i yield thank you council camara you had your
1:09:25hand raised all set thank you questions tony aiken could you just make sure if one of these comes down it has the party on it certainly thank you anything further from the council it is we'll make sure the future that happens is there anything further from the council a little motion to confirm made by council kilby was seconded by council vice president dion all those in favor and he opposed so voted
1:09:54thank you very much thank you thank you adam clark we have the mayor's request for the re-appointment of richard calderon to the community preservation committee second motion confirmed made by council camaros seconded by councillor kilby any discussion all those in favor all right any opposed so voted the mayor's request for the confirmation of the reappointment of jeffrey sylvia to the board of park commissioners
1:10:25motion to adopt motion confirmed made by council raposo second second by counselor lee any discussion all those in favor aye aye any opposed so voted for the mayor's request for the reappointment of victor farrius to the board of part commissioners promotion confirmed made by council police seconded by council camara any discussion all those in favor aye are you opposed so voted are any of those gentlemen here
1:11:03ordered that the sum of twelve thousand dollars be and the same is hereby transferred to the city council salaries from the city council expenses promotion adopt made by councillor kilby second seconded by council raposo any discussion all those in favor any opposed so voted item number four uh the transfers and appropriations the first that the sum of eight hundred seventy one thousand one hundred fifty one
1:11:38dollars b and the same is here by appropriated to the school appropriation one is in the amount of twenty one thousand one hundred fifty one dollars for fy21 surplus revenue and eight hundred fifty thousand dollars for state and county assessments second marginal doubt made by councillor camara seconded by councillor kelby any discussion council seat three council vice president yeah i believe the only one under
1:12:06discussion was a should we separate a and b until we can get clarification on the surplus versus the free cash versus the believe we have confirmation if we want emotionally of the rules emotionally rules to make the rules made by council dion seconded by counselor lee all those in favor aye any opposed attorney akin
1:12:32hello so the uh 21 000 um plus is free cash from 2021 certified um there's approximately 1.6 million plus or minus in free cash and this is from from that the 850 000 it was appropriated for assessments not used and so that money is available in that account and uh it seemed like the the most appropriate place where there was an excess um of appropriation to use it for this to get us to a zero
1:13:14uh 100 fulfillment of our net school spending obligation thank you thank you thank you sorry for the confusion thank you okay counselor and c3 used to have the floor upset yield anything further from the council all those in favor aye any opposed so voted
1:13:43item number five is the mayor's appropriation order in the amount of two million five hundred eleven thousand seven hundred thirty seven dollars from the community preservation act funds for fy 2023 community projects
1:14:04any discussion seeing none all those in favor any opposed so voted
1:14:20item number six are the is the mayor's communication in the order for the fy 2023 revolving funds solution to adult proportional adopt made by councilman kelby seconded by council of pelletier any discussion this is for the 2023 revolving funds seeing none all those in favor all right any opposed so voted and i'm present just through you can i just request that the city administrator just quickly um
1:14:59check i think the municipal modernization act um amended this so this doesn't i don't i don't believe this needs to come before the city council every year anymore so for the revolving funds counseling yeah unless there's a change in the in the spending limit or the establishment of it it doesn't require the approval so thank you just trying to streamline you check that please streamline the process and
1:15:23if you'd let us if you'd let the clerk know thank you thank you counselor okay item number seven is the traffic commission recommending amendments to the traffic ordinances motion to refer to the ordinance committee made by council camara second seconded by council proposal any discussion all those in favor any opposed so it the committee on ordinances and legislation at a meeting held on may 3rd
1:15:59voted unanimously to recommend the accompanying proposed ordinance accompanied by an emergency preamble be passed through first reading second reading has to be enrolled and passed to be ordained with counselors kilby and lee absent and not voting motion a job with emergency preamble made by counselor kadee council second segment of by council pelletier any discussion need a roll call madam clerk yes
1:16:29an adoption of the emergency preamble counselors kadeem yes clara yes dion yes kilby yes lee yes pelletier yes pereira raposo yes and president yes motion adopt the order made by councillor camara seconded by council of pelletier all those in favor any post so voted the committee on ordinances and legislation at a meeting held on may 3rd voted unanimously to recommend that the accompanying proposed ordinance be
1:17:08passed through first reading with counselors kilby and lee absent and not voting this is the miscellaneous traffic ordinance motion to take one and two separate promotion to take items one and two separate that would be granite street item one has indian town road in granite street okay they both have granite street counselors item one has a stop sign and item two has the one way item one motion to take items one and
1:17:39two separate by council vice president dion second seconded by counselor pozo any discussion all those in favor aye madam clerk motion to refer to public works and transportation second item one with a stop sign counselor item one and two you can refer to the ordinance committee oh referral okay sorry for the ordinance sorry one and two correct okay can we separate indian order i'm sorry i can't hear your counselor
1:18:11you have two plans one indian town road and once granite street can we at least approve the indian town road stop sign madam clerk can we separate indian town road and granite street stop signs in item one seems to be a problem with granite street let's not has a delay that indian town road stops on i'm sorry indian town road yeah no we will only yeah you can just we should have
1:18:32separated as long as we can separate the strain motion to adopt stop sign of indian town road do we need to separate those first you can separate the granite street portion of section one and you can separate the section two that relates to granite street we'll just take out those portions of this ordinance and refer those back to the ordinance committee i'd like to make that motion
1:18:59promotion made to separate in item one in in town road and granite street stop signs made by council vice president dion seconded by council raposo any discussion all those in favor all right i'm president yes god sorry grant street is going the two items on grant street they will be after this vote concert if it's the world council yes so a motion to adopt item one stop sign at indian town road would be appropriate
1:19:30i made that motion you did i'm sorry councilman made by council camera was there a second already medal clerk or was that just on the separation the separation of granite street from so now we need a motion to adopt i'm sorry emotional about made by council camara second invite counselor proposal any discussion all those in favor any opposed so voted okay the second part of item one is the granite street stop sign
1:19:59motion to refer to ordinance second second motion to refer to ordinance made by council vice president dion seconded by council reposa any discussion all those in favor any opposed it's been me this whole time that's fine though sorry madam clerk i'm sorry elsa we're all set with this one okay item number 10 the committee on ordinances and legislation at a meeting held on may 3rd
1:20:30voted two years one may to recommend the accompanying proposed ordinance ordinances be passed through first reading with councillor dion voting in the negative and counselors kilby and lee absent and not voting these are the water and sewer rates motion to adopt madame probably adam clark i don't think we are um the rest of items i'm sorry that was my question all right let's get back tonight
1:21:06all right you took a vote to separate granite street correct 30 minute parking south main street man yeah around section three section three okay and then the handicap striking out handicap pocking striking out three and four can't hear anybody i can't hear anybody we separated we should have just made a motion to take granite street both the stop sign and the street and send it back and
1:21:34approve everything else that's it that's all you need to do so we just made a quick would be to um two votes one vote to separate granite street from section one and section two refer that back to the ordinance committee and you can pass the remainder of the ordinance to make that motion that's it emotion made by counselor and c3 do we need to take the other one back madam clerk second seconded by counselor lee
1:22:04all those in favor aye any opposed so voted okay all right okay back to number 10.
1:22:14the committee on ordinances and legislation at a meeting held on may 3rd voted two years one day to recommend the accompanying proposed ordinances be passed through first reading with council dion voting in the negative and councillors kilby and kilby and lee absent and not voting these are the water and sewer rates ordinances motion two second motion to pass through first reading made by
1:22:38councillor kilby seconded by councillor kadeem any discussion all those in favor aye any opposed counselor in c3 opposed conference seat five opposed
1:23:05the committee on ordinances and legislation at a meeting held on may 3rd voted unanimously to recommend that the accompanying proposed ordinance be passed through first reading with councillors kilby and lee absent and not voting this ordinance relates to the residential compost recycling program so shouldn't pass through first reading second to pass through first reading made by
1:23:29council vice president dion seconded by council raposo any discussion all those in favor any opposed so voted the committee on ordinances and legislation at a meeting held on may 3rd voted unanimously to recommend that the accompanying proposed ordinance be passed through first reading with counselors kilby and lee absent and not voting this is the ordinance that relates to historical preservation what
1:23:54should it pass through first reading second motion to pass through first reading made by counselor pozo by council vice president dion any discussion all those in favor and he posed so voted
1:24:12whereas the city of fall river will be receiving sixteen million thirty five thousand eight hundred forty four dollars and seventy cents in bristol county arpa funds and whereas the spending of these funds requires signatures of five members of the fall river city council now therefore be it resolve that each member of the city council review the arpa fund's allowable uses and be
1:24:36prepared to make recommendations to the administration on how these funds are spent and be it further resolved that the city administrator and director of financial services be invited to attend the committee on finance meeting scheduled for tuesday may 24th to discuss and provide guidance on the council's recommendations in order to ensure the final decision on the use of these funds is reached in
1:25:00cooperation with the administration and in the best interest of the residents businesses and city of fall river motion to adopt made by councillor kilby second second by council vice president dion in speaking with the administration this is bristol county opera funds and it does specify that five members of the city council do have to sign off on the use of the funds i did ask the
1:25:27clerk to make sure you all had a packet a summary of approved uses of arpa funds madam clerk is that on their desks or was it sent by email by email both email in on the desks so if you uh this these funds will be coming they may be coming in quarters or half the funds up at once we're not quite sure yet um but we'll have that discussion on the 24th any further discussion counselor seat
1:25:58council proposal through you madame president i'm just curious is there a sort of a summary of some of the discussions that the arpa committee that currently stands has as far as collection of information from residents of what they'd like to see some of that opera money used for that's a great question counselor and i know that counselor vice president is on that committee do you know if um there
1:26:19are summary notes counselor diane to what the the meetings i've attended so far i would say not it's been presentations and people specifically requesting funding but the arp of funding that exists and this county funding are two separate parts of money and they're under different guidelines um so i'm not sure how we would gauge one against the other i'm just getting at the idea of because
1:26:49my next statement's going to be this is a good opportunity where we like to hear from residents exactly how we can best utilize this money and we're in a position to make that decision so instead of kind of doing the same work twice if we already have an idea of some of the conversations that have happened and some of the ideas that have been brought forth instead of doing the work twice
1:27:07do we already have that information available to us there were two public meetings at those public meetings people did weigh in and give their opinions and speak to what they thought that money should be spent on and some of those organizations individuals have come forward submitted applications to the mayor the applications have been reviewed so i'm not really sure at this point the
1:27:34people who did speak how many haven't submitted applications but i don't i don't really feel i mean it's something we can see if we can get something in writing but i don't really feel that one overlaps the other in this case i think we're in a new uh a new realm a new a different dynamic here yeah yeah like i said i'm just looking more for ideas because obviously i'd like to hear from
1:28:00people about what we can best utilize it for but again if they've already stated that it's already in some sort of record or what have you then we're asking a double question again so i agree with you counselor we could also ask the administration to put it out publicly for um input from the residents and businesses yeah that i think that would be ideal if we could do something like that
1:28:23thank you thank you counselor seat five council lee and i'm never against you know hearing the opinions of people as to how this should go however um i i still get i still have i still receive messages and i'm sure some of us do about hey cannot be used for this can operate for that and if we're going to take that public you know that public opinion i i recommend too that um there's a there's
1:28:45more emphasis on the guidelines because they have at least over the last year you know they sort of were vague as to how they could be used i think it's becoming more clarified now but i think if we're going to do that then it should be also that obligation to inform the public as to the guidelines as how it can be spent because there's a lot of requests that came down
1:29:06to me personally that i knew didn't fit in the guidelines unfortunately you know so i if we're going to do something like that then i believe we should also at the same time encourage to keep pushing that information i think we i think the the the committee has because i've been to a handful of those meetings already um but if we're going to continue to keep pushing that then also push the
1:29:24education part of it as well especially if there's a difference between bristol county opera funding and and local municipal opera funding as well so thank you i yield thank you so um counselors can i just clarify one thing those i i understand it's two different pots of money but as far as the rules of what qualifies under arpa money is no different i'm not aware that it's different no the
1:29:46the point of clarification so bristol county received 110 million dollar appropriation for oper and so the county commissioners are going to be keeping some of that portion on the monies for themselves so they can spend on the county level and then uh you know appropriating additional monies to the communities falls in the same buckets um you know lost revenue for instance if you you
1:30:10used lost revenue until they changed the actual formula so if you were over the 10 million dollars you couldn't apply because you have to apply for for the county commissioners you can't apply lost revenue so you have to go into all the different other buckets and it's got to get approved but you still have the same requirements um and restrictions that are applied to to the various categories
1:30:29i will say that if farva has not um used the entire amount of lost revenue bristol county uh commissioners have decided not to allow that to be eligible for communities uh so they're going to use that loss revenue which is the least restrictive um it essentially washes the money and you can use it as a grant so local communities are not able to use it utilize the lost revenue they're able to
1:30:52utilize every other category as it currently stands now so thank you council does that answer your question yes thank you thank you anything and i would agree with you counselor c5 i did um post on social media asking for suggestions and i would say maybe 75 percent of them aren't eligible so if it's a little council we could ask the clerk to send a communication to the administration asking them to put it
1:31:17online along with the available uses and in the 24th it will just be our first discussion matt asked one more question sorry sure through youtube uh my colleague in c3 when the our permit committee met as far as getting ideas was there any sort of digital service about or anything was it what i'm sorry a digital survey sent to residents that they could like get a qr code and give some suggestions no not to
1:31:45my knowledge no are you thank you thank you anything further from the console qr code hey listen it's 2022 you know just throwing some ideas out there so we had a motion to adopt that's been made and seconded all those in favor aye any opposed so voted whereas snow removal represents a significant expense and is the only account that is subject to deficit spending and whereas accountability documentation record
1:32:19keeping and receipts supporting the cost and expenditures of past snowstorms have been lacking and whereas the use of gps proper documentation for licensing proof of insurance and registration are in question and where is the question of improper use of city and private contractor vehicles and lack of oversight for the use of products in the removal of snow and treatment of streets related to
1:32:41storms has given rise to serious concerns now therefore be it resolved that the city administrator director of financial services and the director of community maintenance be invited to a future meeting of the committee on public works and transportation to discuss and review these matters and be it further resolve that a complete accounting of each individual snowstorm this past winter be presented
1:33:07including start and end times for each storm both city and private contractor hours worked and any and all charters incurred by the city do you have a motion any discussion counselor iii the sponsor of the resolution council vice president dion yeah one of the things that sparked this was last year there was a discussion there were some charges that were in question and we started talking about receipts etc
1:33:45and we were told that once the city made the entries from snowstorms documentation receipts were thrown away that there were some random boxes stored in a basement a garage and somewhere else that if we wanted to go through the boxes and see what we could find we would be allowed to do that so obviously that's just not a proper way to handle receipts etc so that's just part of what what um
1:34:18kind of sparked this whole discussion with that i yield thank you counselor anything further from the council we have a motion of adopt it's been made and seconded all those in favor aye any opposed so voted whereas the fall river city council has received multiple communications regarding environmental concerns regarding construction on stonehaven road now therefore be it resolved that the committee on health and
1:34:46environmental affairs convene with residents from the stonehaven road neighborhood and the administrative community utilities to address concerns motion to adopt emotional adopt made by counselor and casa raposo seconded by council vice president dion any discussion sponsor of the resolution council receipt five council and i won't take too long on this i don't know how many councils are receiving these emails um i
1:35:10i decided to even if it was one person making complaints i think we still have to consider the information that's being given to us in these emails um but i actually called the individual and went out to the area and met with him and about seven or eight other residents in that area i also did talk to mr furling about it as well mr frilling informing that there have been many meetings as well with those those
1:35:35individuals and other individuals in that neighborhood but i also felt that these individuals specifically we're reaching out for a reason uh regarding environmental concerns um trees being knocked down things like that noise pollution possibly um and and i think there are a lot of there's a lot of information those emails that could be disputed as to you know whether or not they're valid or not i don't i'm not
1:35:57i'm not going to spend that time on that part necessarily but my concerns are about the environmental aspects of it and um we have a subcommittee that we can actually have this conversation put it on record um i have two um very experienced counselors on that subcommittee counselor joe camara and linda pereira i feel is that that could be valuable in this conversation as well um so i would i
1:36:20would appreciate having this passed so we can have this discussion with those residents and other residents from that area including um mr furlin and also um there was some traffic concerns and things like that and if there's anything in there that needs to go to where it needs to go i'd like to bring that as well whether it be miss ferreira or whatever else um so i yield thank you thank you counselor counselor
1:36:41in c3 did you have your hand up yes president um i've been out there as well and have seen um what the work that's been done up there i've spoken with the residents as well and i think this is a great resolution i think there are um a lot of issues that need to be discussed and um i don't know that there's some that can never be fixed unfortunately i believe there have been adverse
1:37:06effects on the neighbors as a result of some of the work that's been done up there and it's very unfortunate um so i definitely 100 percent back this resolution with that i yield thank you counselor anything further counseling one yeah i guess i'm just a little confused by the the resolution so we've got a building project that's taken place um the administration knows what's going on
1:37:28so if there are environmental concerns i think one would i guess if it's trees the tree's already been cut down i don't i don't know what a subcommittee is going to just do just to inform so meeting with these these individuals they were told that the trees would be replaced after they were moved out of the way for construction so right now they're not and they don't know if it's going to
1:37:48happen i i recognize that i guess i guess this is where i just struggle sometimes with the legislative body i think we just become too reactionary to uh constituent complaints um and we file resolutions for everything when we don't have the authority to do anything from a legislative body so i'm just i'm just trying to understand how this resolution affects a legislative body we're not going to legislate
1:38:11trees be put up on a building project we just don't have that authority right so i guess i'm just trying to figure out what the solution is i mean if counselors want to set up meetings individual meetings uh with the constituents i i would agree that i think they have the right to do that but i mean to file a resolution and have a subcommittee i mean i'm not on the subcommittee i would just
1:38:31you know i i don't think that that's within our scope but um the administration is is the one that's handling you know the the building project and it should be on the administration's responsibility to deal with the complaints along with the uh the general contract that the opm the architect whoever whoever's involved i just i don't understand why um you know health and human services
1:38:54would be entertaining this so i i personally am not going to support it i can i can appreciate it going forward but i think again we've got to strike a balance we really do unless you can tell me that there's something that we can actually a proactive approach that we can take that that we can implement either an ordinance or whatever the case may be then that's that's a different story just
1:39:15counseling c5 was it in their site plan that the trees were going to be replaced i did i do not have that i don't have that site plan um i believe that was so we've been in situations before um we can south end of the city where we all went down there and had a big discussion about you know flooding in that area things like that um there were concerns about water pressure things like that
1:39:38there was just a lot of things that i feel needed to be talked about put out there on record to see what what solutions can be had can be found so councils don't want to support it that's their prerogative but i do feel like this is something that we could possibly have something productive come out of this so i yield on that i'll just leave it alone thank you counselor anything further from the council
1:39:59that's on seat two council commander health and human services was the border health involved no no this isn't health and human services this is environmental environmental science it's it says i think it's healthy i'm sorry health and environmental affairs yeah all right um i for one tend to be my colleague in c1 i mean it's something that if the city's an ongoing project and the
1:40:21neighbors are upset at the construction what's going on and you said they were being told that trees were going to be replaced well the project's not over yet why would they replace trees in the middle of a project that never happens so once the project is done and completed the trees will get replaced i'm sure if the city told them that's going to happen it's going to happen i know mr ferlin i know people in
1:40:36the city are working on this and i would hate to think they're going to just pull the wool over the neighbor's eyes because that's when we get involved when those things that were said to neighbors don't happen but i agree with him let's not jump the gun it's similar to what we did with the tasers i mean the cameras when they're working on it and we try to put a resolution and we
1:40:54can meet we can have a five hour discussion at the end of the meeting he's right we don't we can't dictate to them and tell them what to do when they haven't done it yet and they still have the opportunity to do it so i'd rather wait until it comes and let it finish their project let the trees get in place let the administration work let mr phil do his job and obviously if there are
1:41:16environmental affairs are going on there's a department for that that they can call and and make sure that they'll be there take care of those affairs as well i would um i would just say just in response so we we can go on about this all night back and forth but i think the simple thing to do is just vote our conscience on whether we think that's this is the
1:41:35right time to have that meaning or not not to say that there's not one that might be due when the project's done but i think right now is not the time we can have as guy calling said any counsel and i've done it many times met with neighborhood people and expressed my you know intentions to the administration and to the people who charge that project and they've always been responsive and accommodating so
1:41:56with that are you thank you counselor counselor and seat five no just in response i'll i'll table or whatever it is that you know if if this isn't the right time for it fine but um i do i do feel that we're kind of disregard not disregarding the concerns of citizens in that area right now i do feel that that's what's happening at the moment right now and i'm it's unfortunate but i will you know i
1:42:18respect the opinions of my colleagues on this so also you could take the we can take this vote to send it to the committee and then um you'd share this committee correct so it could be sitting in committee if it is needed anything further from the council counselor's seat one yeah i just again i don't want to belabor the point but i think at some point you know with some of these resolutions we're just micromanaging
1:42:42an executive branch that we have no control over nor should we be micromanaging that being said i'm not taking lightly the concerns that the neighbors have and i would just echo that the administration really needs to take a hard look with mr furlin if they're having meetings maybe they need to have more meetings and and again i at some point sometimes people need to hear things
1:43:04that they don't want to hear and we just can't you know we need to be able to filter out the message and we need to understand that it is the administration not our responsibility that's all i'm saying that being said i would just urge the administration to continue to work with the residents up there and and i think quality of life is an important part of it and i know the project's
1:43:22temporary you know but if if they have significant long-term concerns uh that we can alleviate then i would suggest that we alleviate if there's short-term concerns and and i think if neighbors have concerns with noise ordinance then we need to enforce the noise audience right just you know i i've heard some stories too um you know i think there's a lot of there's a lot of um stakeholders in involved in that that
1:43:48are you know creating difficult situations and i sometimes takes place with construction projects it's it's an unfortunate situation sometimes difficult to manage um but i think the administration has to manage that that's their responsibility there that's what they do they do the day-to-day not us we're a legislative body we set ordinances we uh do appropriations that's essentially our control without a yield
1:44:15thank you counselor anything further from the council counselor seat port do you have your hand raised no anything further all those in paper bye roll call real quick
1:44:44on the resolution the motion to adopt counselors kadeem no camara no dan yes kilby yes lee yes pelletier no pereira raposo yes and president-elect yes what emotion carries
1:45:15item number 16 is the order granting permission to mallory rosa doing business as black brick market for permission to operate a secondhand article store at 575 globe street any discussion all those in favor aye aye any post so voted item 17 is the order granting permission to joachim fernandez for curb removal at 178 lake avenue if i may this item is before the zoning board at next week's meeting of may 19th so the
1:45:58city engineer has suggested that the council if they are so inclined to adopt this order if they adopt pending the approval of the zoning board motion made dot pen approved second motion made pending approval of the zoning boards second by council camaro second by council raposo any discussion all those in favor any post so voted item number 18 is the order granting permission to call cabuccio for the
1:46:28removal of curbing at 1297 north main street to adopt soon emotional adopt me by councillor kilby seconded by counselor pelletier any discussion seeing none all those in favor any opposed so voted item 19 is the order granting permission to barrick castro for the removal of curbing at 554 reading street motion to adapt second motion adopt made by councillor pelletier second by councillor camara any discussion
1:46:59concerning c3 council vice president yeah i believe that 19 and 20 um the ones that that's the corner lot we weren't sure about that much footage where it might where might go to public works and transportation for discussion i believe that was mentioned if not i'm fine no motion to adopt on the floor emotions items you want to adopt them counselor you want to send them to committee you should adopt a second hand
1:47:26all right whatever all those in favor any opposed you're a post counselor counselor c3 is opposed
1:47:47item 21 is the order granting permission to michael mata uh for the removal of curbing at 388 quincy street emotional adopt made by councillor kilby seconded by council raposo any discussion did we take 19 and 20 together we just did 19.
1:48:07you're correct counselor and clerk we didn't take those together so we need to vote on 20.
1:48:11didn't come to the pelletier asked to take them together yeah but then but we didn't vote on it they want to do separate okay item 20 is barrett castro for the removal of curbing 554 reading street this would be on the valentine street side motion to adopt second by council camara any discussion all those in favor of jet pro call madam clerk no you're not objecting you're just a no vote no vote counselor c3 supposed
1:48:54opposed thank you
1:49:12okay okay we're on i am 22. we haven't finished 21 yet
1:49:37for the removal of curbing at 388 quincy street motion to adopt emotional job made by council raposo second by council pellets here any discussion all those in favor any post so voted okay item 22 is the request for permission being granted to phil ponte at 500 state avenue welcome to adopt say again emotional adopt made by council repository counselor pelletier any discussion all those in favor any opposed so voted
1:50:1223 is the order granting permission to kenneth pereira for the removal of curbing at 515 smith street motion to adopt motion dot made by councillor pozo seconded by counselor pelletier any discussion all those in favor aye any opposed so voted and 24 is the order granting permission to paulo j amaral at 110 andrews street for removal of curving motion to adopt motion drop made by counselor pozo
1:50:41seconded by council pelletier any discussion all those in favor any opposed so voted have the police chief's report on licenses
1:50:57any discussion all those in favor all right any opposed so voted we have an application for the renewal of an auto repair shop at 2322 south main street motion to adopt second motion adopted by consular poses seconded by counselor kadeem any discussion all those in favor aye any opposed so voted have an auto body shop license renewal at 39 11th street motion to adopt what's your job made by councillor pozo
1:51:29second by council appellate tier any discussion all those in favor all right any post so voted i have an application for the transfer of an auto repair shop license at 697 pleasant street transfer second motion adopted by councillor camara seconded by council raposo any discussion all those in favor all right any opposed it's all voted i have a number of claims corporation council second motion to
1:51:56refer to corporation council made by council camara second by council proposal any discussion all those in favor aye opposed so voted item 30 is the communication from the city engineer in a street for a street opening for a street less than five years at 150 and 166 purchase
1:52:25street right motion to adopt made by councillor camara second seconded by council kadeem any discussion all those in favor all right any opposed so voted item 31 is an open meeting law complaint corporation council motion referred to corporation council made by council kilby second second by council vice president dion any discussion all those in favor any opposed so voted we have a communication from friedman
1:53:05fram and fresh regarding a public comment censorship motion accept place and file motion accept and place on file made by council kadeem seconded by council proposal any discussion all those in favor any opposed so voted you have a number of drain layer licenses just present can we just backtrack real quick just in terms of the um item number 31 that we just referred to corporation council yes um
1:53:35can we just get an opinion on any open meeting law violations in committee how they should proceed whether it's in full council or should it be so counselor the letter that was submitted for citizens input references a specific mgl however that mgl is about approving minutes in committee it is not about approving it's not about hearing open meeting law complaints in committee but one would be it'd be one and the
1:54:08same right so if you're approved so and the and the um complaint that he's referring to was actually found to be um that they did not violate the open meeting law we are still hearing the minutes in committee okay okay i'm just saying the premise the premise would remain the same it would yeah okay thank you so i just to i just want to get it straight i just don't want to have more open meeting love
1:54:39i did speak to the clerk and um attorney aiken on the break and the clerk had pulled out what um the mass general law that he was referring to and the complaint that he was referring to and it was on the school committee and it was on committee minutes and the state did find that the committee did not violate the open meeting law we are still doing we are we have decided to put the
1:55:13meeting minutes in the subcommittees with mr hagan's suggestion just so that they're heard there but it does not specify that the open meeting law complaints need to go to subcommittee you yield i yelled sorry madam clerk um item number 33 uh drain layer licenses motion to adopt second motion approved made by councillor poso seconded by counselor kadeem any discussion all those in favor aye any opposed so voted
1:55:49i have minutes of the zoning board of appeals motion to approve second middle class would that be a motion except not placement that's what i meant to accept and place on file made by council raposo seconded by council kadeem any discussion all those in favor any opposed so voted have a application for a structure over a public way for a stepping stone second motion approved made by council
1:56:16kadeem second by council raposo any discussion all those in favor aye aye any opposed so voted we have minutes of the meeting of the city council held on april 12th motion to prove in place on file motion approved made by councillor raposo seconded by council vice president dion any discussion all those in favor aye aye any opposed so voted i have a communication from national grid
1:56:44regarding the vegetation management plan motion accept and place on file motion acceptance place on file made by council vice president dion second by council raposo any discussion all those in favor any opposed so voted i have a communication that was received from the mayor and two thai agreements one is for the 84 durfee llc and one for mechanics mill one llc motion two second motion of drop made by council camaro
1:57:20seconded by councillor kilby any discussion all those in favor aye any opposed so voted and lastly we have one uh one additional drain layer license that was filed after the agenda was prepared motion to approve
1:57:42any discussion seeing none all those in favor aye any opposed so voted to adjourn oh jerk i'm sorry counselor six did you have a question yeah i'd like to ask if you could give us the dates um for the budget and to consider whether or not we're starting at 5 30 whether we have a cut off like we've had to cut off at nine i know you have uh at least three or four scheduled
1:58:15but it'd be nice to know if we go home at nine or we stay to midnight we will do that counselor is there a uh sorry come on how they are they're starting at 5 30.
1:58:27so we had suggested starting at 5 30 i know that you had responded that one meeting you would be six and then any other suggestions from the council are welcome if you want to have a cap on the time sit six to nine i support that counselor um yeah this is aside from that i'm fine with the six to nine that's great um two just two things that are in my my mind one being
1:58:59are we going to have a city council meeting scheduled and the event action is taken so it can be referred to city council immediately afterwards for a vote so it makes it official that's my first question my second question is do we have or can we get an opinion from corporate council that if we take any action that is considered action according to the city charter does the clock stop
1:59:26that's a 45-day clock if we don't take action if we do take action does the clock stop with that i yield because that was a problem as we all know last year a greek counselor so i did present dates to the city clerk that work for all of you and i was looking at last year's memorandum where it was split by department it went until 9 15 each evening and only the last meeting
1:59:57had a special meeting of the council after if it was needed to vote so we could do that on each meeting if necessary in case we were ready to take a vote in full council so the clerks will as soon as council vice president and i um separate the departments per evening you'll have the schedule as soon as possible does that sound good oh we're not doing it all at one night
2:00:23you want to do it all at one night six to three in the morning counselor kadeem is going to provide dinner promotion promotion joined made by councillor camara senegal council proposal all those in favor all right
2:01:02you