5.15.2023 Community Preservation Committee

yeah uh welcome to the community preservation committee meeting held at uh city council hearing room one government center Fall River the meeting may be accessible through uh cable channel 18 for government television Facebook live stream uh it's Monday the 15th 2023 six o'clock um pursuant to the open mean well as any person may make an audio video recording of this public meeting or may transmit

the meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible uh we'll start with roll call Joanne Bentley present Alexander silver present job Brandt president Richard Calderon president Rick Mancini President we are missing tonight uh

Carolyn Auburn uh Chris Oliveira and Victor Ferris we also have with us Sandy Dennis CPA Administration admin and forward TV we have Craig um any citizen input no citizen input uh she's gonna have a motion for approval of the man from April 18th and we accept the minutes of the meeting okay Joanne Bentley yes with Mancini yes uh next we have uh Park extensions presentation first and actually it's a

good day to do that since the weather and everything is blooming out there it's a good time to get back out into our our Parks uh the playground ball field basketball we even have Hibachi Court down in Columbia Park so uh make sure you get out there and see all the uh things we have to offer uh we have Chris perano from the fan guitar but who's going to give us a presentation on our parks

thanks Chris hello everyone um Chris Brown on the planning office um Mr Brandt asked me to come down and give an overview of the open space Capital Improvements we've done over the past couple of years we've done this presentation at a couple of City Council meetings so some of you may have seen this but um anyways we'll just get right into it so this started through uh Capital Improvement plan that was provided to

the City by Mount Bennett Architects they went through all of our open spaces and created a list of items that needed to be addressed for about 200 and so far we've addressed about 50 percent of them they ranked them in priority and we've been trying to address these concerns since we received the report so some updates that have occurred a lot of these have benefited from CPC funding

and I think that's why the chairman asked me to come is to just show you know the what the funding you all have provided has allowed you know the citizens of Florida to enjoy so Kennedy Park one of the CPC projects was to repair the retaining wall along Bradford Avenue that was done in 2020 and it cost twenty eight thousand dollars some other work that's been going on or improved basketball courts pickleball courts

should be opening soon and some improvements to the maintenance building additionally talked about that the tennis courts and pickleball courts this is a combination of monies from the operating budget Community Development agency and state grant money it was about an arpa project arpa has funded a feasibility study to look at new splash pads the use of the existing fountain for an outdoor ice rink

evaluations for upgrades and repairs to the existing gazebo the park office some new walkways multi-purpose sport fields and electrical upgrades to support different community events one of the other CPC projects that we're working on right now is the design of the Kennedy Park overlook the last update we have from the design team is they've gone out done some survey work and are coming up with conceptual plans

I think they're supposed to come up with three different designs that will be evaluated um again this is through CPC funding of 183 000 this is an example of what an Overlook structure might look like in that area uh if you're not familiar this is the area up Club Street near the king Phillip Yacht Club that's really just kind of a grass field and some scrub growth along the banks of the River and Bay

uh the pool is playground Memorial playground and park was completely rebuilt in October of 2020 utilizing CDA funding same thing with the Kathy Assad Tot Lot this was done from 2020 to 2022 included Park Grant and CDA funding Damaris playground again was through CDA funding a complete rebuild of the playground Abbott Court back in um or actually this is scheduled upgrades arpa is funding a new skate park and CDA

is planning a new playground Columbus Park through CDA received some park benches and new signage and new playground equipment is scheduled for 2024 hopefully uh Lafayette Park is undergoing an upgrade to the Escape Park also funded through arba and we do have a pending application to the Massachusetts land and water conservation fund we're hoping to hear back from them soon this is a

nationally competitive Grant we propose pathway upgrades bench replacement lighting and hand spins and a new basketball court among a few other things like Ada upgrades Griffin Park got a new play set in 2018 through CDA North Park is where we've seen some CDA work including the grandstand removal representative Fiola received a earmark in the state budget to do ice rink repairs and tree planting the city has

also done new sidewalks on President Ave and Highland Avenue and demolished the Comfort station another skate park will be done in North Park as well Maplewood through a donation from from the Robert Kraft and New England Patriots replaced the playground equipment in 2018 and the Park Drive was repaved in 2021.

CPC funding is being used to replace the ball field lighting as you were all aware true Parks got some CDA funding for new backstops benches for the dugouts and rehabilitated the bleachers Father Kelly softball field also received funding from this group here to do lighting upgrades as well Ruggles Park received CDA funding for a new basketball court and Equipment back in 2016.

the Junta top lot went through a complete rebuild from CDA back in 2019.

Bicentennial Park um this has not been updated I'm sorry the outdoor fitness equipment was moved to Portland Park but they are receiving some upgrades to the tennis court lighting some project some projects have spanned multiple Parks so in 2016 Kennedy Park Ruggles Maplewood Abbott Court and North Park all the new basketball courts again this was combination funding through Park Grant and CDA funding um

I think it's important to note so park funding comes from the state and requires that the city uh take part in funding these programs I can't recall the exact percentage um right now but um this might be an opportunity to partner in the future with CP CPC funding to leverage the funding that we have through this organization through CDA and then also the state because it does require that that we have some

other funding mechanisms available ball field Renovations took place in 2017 at Maplewood Kennedy Park and Abbott Court this again was through Park funding and CDA Ruggles Park and Father Kelly in 2019 received over a quarter million dollars in pathway improvements we've done some pretty aggressive tree planting in Pulaski Park Turner Park North Park Eastern Avenue Lafayette Park in the past couple of years

spray pads were done at Pulaski and chew through Park funding and CDA totaling three hundred and ten thousand dollars cemeteries CPC funding for North burial ground repaired the Gatehouse and we're thankful that you have all funded the next phase to repair the gate as well you can see in the photos the the difference that the funding is made in enhancing that building Oak Grove Cemetery also received CPC

funding in 2017 to rehabilitate the entry Gates and the stonework um some other Open Spaces that have been completed out of the city Pier the family picnic Grove the bowenville green get some landscaping and benches Jerry lawn Plaza um on South Main in anawan we're at about 95 construction documents we hope to be out to bid in the very near future and hopefully construction will be completed

by the end of this construction season so we're a little behind that July time frame our place funded some tree planting stump removal um and some green storm water infrastructure as well and the AL Lima quickashan River Rail Trail has four million dollars allocated uh through arpa for phase four the Westport extension has both Mass Trails money and CPC funding so Mass Trails required that we had a 25 match

um so CPC funding has helped us achieve that match requirement this project is nearly done this week or next week they should be looming seating the banks of the newly installed pathway and that should be wrapped up in the next couple of weeks and open I believe it's already open to the public I think they took down the construction Gates this week so we're excited that that has been completed in total um

we've spent over three million dollars we have eight million dollars funded and we project another four and a quarter million dollars of work in the next couple of years that's a quick overview of what's been going on in Parks thanks and we hope you have some projects coming our way this coming September I hope so any questions well I don't I don't have a question but I just want to share with my colleagues

to one of the comments you uh you said that the state um contributes a certain percentage and I think you know this board should definitely partner up with with the state not saying through us but kind of through through whatever normal channels it is it's almost like as you might probably know where Miss Oliveira knows like the MS at the msba which is the Massachusetts building authority they're

the ones that give you a grant they built the new Durfee High School where they give you 70 and in the city will turn you know we'll pay the difference of 30 in this case it's a little different we already have the money so I think it's a no-brainer when someone's already pawning out more than half the money and all we got to do is just put a small percentage and it's a huge it's a

huge investment I think so just wanted to kind of put that out there okay um just two things uh thank you that's a great presentation I'm happy to hear that you give it to a lot of the other City boards and Council um I just request could you possibly add to the quick Shin River Rail Trail that CPC also funded the initial what was it study to get the fun the trail created

initially I think it's important for residents to realize that and then for uh the maybe at the veterans wall for the the park by the Waterfront um just to Showcase that CPC funded a portion of that as well but great presentation thank you yeah okay okay I've got one question for you Chris you the the new quick Shan Trail Edition very nice uh where's the nearest parking I think for sure from Brighton Avenue to

the end of Westport yeah I think street parking along is that Martine Street there it's probably the best bet there's no uh parking lots is there any thought of the city of widening that maybe encroaching on that Bank a bit to extend that super narrow it's very very narrow parking there very dangerous because that's a Speedway yeah and it is not the asphalt and there's probably five six foot at Max

which is the width of a car so they're opening their door up into the lane driving lane so is there any thought of expanding uh at all um I don't think we've looked at anything concretely but I can certainly look into it I do a lot of walking and that trail for say someone that's not very agile there's no way of getting on there unless you from Brayton Avenue on there's no way of getting on that

portion of the trail it's beautiful because it's right along the lake sure so uh just the thought process maybe that's a request for CPC money sure to expand the asphalt and make that wide enough to put in here and you could put in a good dozen parking spots easily in there lepage's has fenced off his area that fencing was the temporary construction fencing so that was not the pages that did that

but there is no parking signs yeah I guess he's over there so anyway just a thought sure absolutely okay any other questions

absolutely

and I'm not sure if I missed Maplewood Park lights and Pulaski Parks flash that we funded so if you could send us we can update as a committee the CPC funds that went to a lot of those projects and then when you get to the open space section we've funded a lot of homes in space that we one last thing um once that it's finalized will we be able

to will the board be able to get a copy so we can put it on our site or maybe we can just capture what we've done and put it on the cbc's website apparently so for any any member of the public that wants to see some other projects yeah obviously that's the place to go it's on the city's website just a thought okay all right thank you thank you Chris all right moving on to uh project

extensions um let's see first we have the water department project uh Waterworks Pump House that's you Mike thank you yes I'm here representing so I have three can we maybe deal with them all at once what do I have to drink uh we can

okay so um nothing extraordinary about any any of the reasons except uh just introduce yourself I'm sorry Michael the boss here I'm the city uh Watershed Forester at the what's upper reservation um so the pump house is uh quite exciting and we certainly um you know we've got a a um an initial design study with a few different layouts for the interior and we've done some weather

uh you know new new roof and some uh you know exterior work um but um just I guess the uh at the mercy of the Court we just you know a number of unexpected things have have uh taken our time and uh understaffed so we're just hoping to get another extension to uh to put this out to uh to put the RFQ out to bid so we can get you

know the right uh architect on board to do this and this kind of relates to a couple of other projects um we have the Barnabas Blossom workshop at the reservation and also um project we're going to close on very soon an aquarium which is the Adirondack Farm all three of these need an RFQ so our plan is to get one RFQ uh out find one firm to do the design and planning

for all all three of these projects so that uh by waiting this long sort of it's fortunate that we have more of a volume of a project and I think that'll get us better uh better results and uh So the plan is to do that uh in uh late late June we'll have the RFQ done and put out to bed before you have any questions quick question so Staffing basically is

the reason for uh not getting to it that's that's very much it I'm I'm I'm I'm at half staff if you will um and um just there's a lot of Demands on time and so we just haven't gotten to that point do you anticipate any uh change in the costs because of the delay or no I can't say honestly I don't know all right I'm gonna have a motion to granted extension

I'll make a motion to Grant the extension a second okay won't go up Joanne Bentley yes Alex yes Bridget Calderon Yes Rick mean Sandy yes okay next you have the promised lands yes um and that is a project where we have three Parcels that have been sort of languishing in the city's uh foreclosure process and um I'm working with attorney Matt Thomas on that um it's been a long and arduous process

there are three Parcels that are landlocked and so they actually um they need to go through a certain State process their Parcels of low value and the idea is to uh for the city to be able to first of all acquire them through the pro through you know through a delinquent tax process and then put them out to bid and um then we will bid on them but that process has been

delayed and so we wait for the uh for the process to uh to be completed it's possible it will be completed this summer but out of caution I just wanted to go with the full extension if we could something out of your hand so really any questions on that I do so I don't I just I'm not familiar with this project so the idea is to purchase the lanes and put them out to bid for what

exactly I'm sorry so so the idea is for the city to purchase them to become conservation lands okay they will privately own parcels and that's something we've done quite a bit of especially you know in the Watershed um there are certain Parcels that um that become abandoned and these are three often Parcels that have been abandoned since probably the Great Depression I mean the the you know like

I said when I say language these these these uh these Parcels have not uh had uh you know owners paying taxes on them for a number of years so um we need to sort of bring them bring them back up to um um you know bring bring them back up to uh um how can I say it uh just make sure they're legally we deal with it properly and legally you know putting out a call

for uh possible past owners to come forward and you know reconcile taxes and things like that but yeah so you do that through a um once you've done those uh proper notifications then the city can put them out to bid and then um our our department which is working with conservation lands then basically bids and pays to bring them into consideration right okay yeah thank you Mike the three pieces of land where are

they where's the proximity so there are three abutting parcels and they are east of Blossom Road South of Indiantown Road they're adjacent to actually the Indian Reservation they're adjacent to um uh some other conservation lands and they're behind Mohawk well they're behind Mohawk Drive but they're closer to Blossom Hill Estates but they're the headwaters of the bread and cheese Brook which kind of flows in through

Westport into the head of the Westport River how many acres uh 28 three Parcels there's the three small Parcels totally 28 Acres

I'll make that motion well a second roll call Joanne Bentley yes Alexander Sylvia yes do you remember it yes Richard Calderon yes Mancini yes thank you next you have the historic water department documents right um again it's a matter of time I did I did want to bring um a little bit of evidence to tease you uh so this this is an example of uh uh there's there's a number of different

kind of documents there's Minister meetings there's Maps there's other things but this is this is a really nice example because um this is this is this is a replica of the original so the idea uh the idea of being able to our originals are one of a kind and so we want to protect the originals and make sure they stay in a vault that will be uh you know uh safe and you know fire

approval but this is if I might this is kind of a look at the 1895 this is our first Reservoir commission book if I may just yeah give an idea of what we're trying to protect and this is this is a photocopy on acid free paper it's been rebound and so this is once we have the education center up and running this is the kind of thing that's going to be

available to the public to be able to look through and peruse and if that's not enough we're also digitizing it so this is it's kind of a cumbersome process we don't like to put them out of the building wanted you know all at once so the kind of one at a time so it's just um it's just again time so two-year extension will take care of that yes okay any questions

I'll make a motion a grand extension second okay Joanne Bentley yes Alex LDS John Brent yes ritzy Calderon Yes Rick Mancini yes alrighty thanks a little Payless appreciate it thank you very much you're welcome you will not be disappointed and congratulations on the uh signing the uh Adirondack Farms today yeah I definitely appreciate that we have we actually have a closing date of June 16th so it's

right around the corner trash Grace thank you all thank you uh next we have up DCM and facility maintenance projects good evening Al Oliveira director of City operations okay and your first project up is the Kennedy Park overlook yes uh a little a little history of what's going on here on my end I started in January of January 3rd I've had a couple meetings with Sandy and thank you very much Sandy for bringing

me up to speed this committee is as supported a lot of projects for the city and this is exciting and when when Sandy was mentioning that there were some projects that still are not completed per se with some funding I instantly wanted to take a peek at this to see what what else could we do as we all know there's many things that you can do for a project even though some portion

of it's been completed I.E there's a roof that's been completed there may be some scuppers there may be some flashing there may be minor things that could be updated I wanted to take a peek at that and this is what this exercise has allotted me to do we have several projects the North Park overlook of the Kennedy Park overlook uh I I I'm at a point where I just I think I

need some more time to be detailed enough to explain everything this a lot of things in here that I have a really good idea about uh but I I for for example the Kennedy Park I've been trying to find a lot of the documents I can't find some of those documents Sandy and I will be meeting shortly to review some of those things you know the the Kennedy Park one is one

that I'm going to need more information on um the second one is the school administration building I met with the school department and we will uh I'd like to we'll take the vote on The Overlook and then go to that okay does anybody have any questions on the Overlook yeah I mean it makes sense um you know considering yourself in a new position I mean trying to catch up to speed with

every single project out that's going to take a while now I don't want to slow the process but do you have like a resign if they put something on board yet where the design how to look that's that's what I'm trying to so I'm trying to try to capture that information okay um I have the majority of the items that we have I just wanted to make sure that we didn't lose any of the funding and

that's why I'm in front of you to find a way to get an extension I think that's going to be a great area so yeah I mean forward to it for for that for for us to lose any any funds is is crazy I just want to do my due diligence to make sure that we are we have the capacity to do that and yeah it's just a lot of

projects going on at this point now this is brought to the attention and we have to move on this really quick um I would say within the next 30 days I should be able to have some information pertaining to a lot of these items some I have some right now um and I can present to you what the next plan of attack is but I mean I don't want to hold it up but even if we

had like the poster we could put on our next absolute children on camera people you know does anyone have any else yeah all right um so the Kennedy Park overlook uh it was before my time on the committee but I know since I've been on it received I believe additional funding so I was just wondering what documents are just maybe how much you're missing or or what could just kind of get the scale

because I know that one was before us somewhat recently with the former uh it was a former planner I don't have much I don't have much on that but I believe um in conversation with Chris perano he did say that the city Engineers office is has some some data on that and okay we'll be able to support that next meeting that's one of the projects that I'm going to be overseeing and if any of

them that that I am would you that I am always saying you'll be getting notifications from Sandy on that would you make it a point to sort of keep me in the loop so that I can attend some of these active discussions that you're having then I could always report back to the board also but I I want to be an active member in these activities if you don't want absolutely

if anything else can you add a motion to grant extension I'll make the motion the this is uh just post upon tabling it took for 30 days right extension oh I'm sorry

so I think we can my my recommendation would be to make a motion just to Grant just a two-year extension um and I think once Miss Oliveira can kind of get all his ducks in row again it's it's a new position that he's on this is a new position new role to the city and it's a it's a huge undertaking um furthermore I mean public funds is not easy

um to get and I think what he what he's trying to achieve is like what other areas of opportunity can we do an adjacent to the funds that are already approved so I think it's very crucial that we we allow him to kind of do his due diligence and then reach reach out to the board once we say hey we have these couple of projects or if the boards feels like hey we have a couple

projects that we would like to see it kind of turned around a lot quicker you can do that but at least give them the opportunity to do that so that would be my my recommendation I mean we've always done an extension that's always been the two years so I don't want to really get into well when does this one uh expire for this grant funding is it immediate there's an immediate future I think it's

a summer it expires so he might be done before the evening extension but be on the safe side correct on for extending it for two years if we can get like an update when you do find all the information you're kind of looking for just so we as a committee can get an update I are you the only are you and Kristen maybe the only ones who are on the board

because I don't I personally just don't know much about it I heard a little bit when I think we got the little uh presentation for the additional funding I think it was I think they needed more money when they came back for us for the study so I would just like to know more as well as I'm sure the public part the the fault is partially mine the when

when it came in front of me I assumed that it was my um preview to to look into but the engineering divisions looking into that and they've got they have some information and we'll share that with you very shortly yeah I mean I I'm not opposed to granting the extension in two years tonight I just I would just like to see an update when you get it in the summer maybe sounds good uh so can

we get a motion for uh Granite extension and make a motion for two years okay and then the update when you have a chance I have a second I'll second that motion roll call Joanne Bentley yes Alex over yes Richard Calderon Yes Rick Mancini yes all right and next is the school ad building yes so I spoke to Ken Pacheco the um Chief Operating Officer for the uh for the school department and

um he was aware that there was some still still some funds um left on the table for this project and um bottom of that one that would be so currently the the grant was for uh 220 thousand dollars um 12 346 dollars were encumbered thirty thousand eight hundred and eleven dollars were available uh making it a total of 43 157 dollars available for some work Ken did say he would love to get some more windows

um added he believes about six or seven additional windows in that building so he's very excited about having the additional funds to to close that Loop yeah I I did call uh Mr pachico when we didn't get the funding this the paperwork and I did tell him he had the I think it was 30 000 something that was approved for Windows so he could start the project and then hopefully next year get

the paperwork in and they can continue it but absolutely is that changing the scope though of the original no it had the windows was left in the uh which it never got to so he was the number of Windows specified in the original no back then this was just going back quite a while so I just said window repairs so okay he can how many do you think um sorry how many

do you think uh will be funded with the additional Ken believes about seven depends on what what condition of the windows are um and what hasn't we have to fall into but at this point um Kenny believes that it about seven or eight Windows um that he has that's more of a residential type some of the funds that were already utilized were for repairing chimneys and roof penetrations as part of that Grant any questions

let's just again keep us informed with the leadings again if I'm and I am on that project also any of the projects that you see my name on if you could just keep me in the loop give me a phone call give me a message a message and if I can attend I'll be there absolutely right so um have we seen this window I know there was a little bit of concern

about not having seen the example window that was going to go in with this round's grant funding I'm just wondering if these windows he's going to take them out repair and put them back in okay that's great all right so we have a motion a second just push to the best of our knowledge the sample the window sample that was Google would come in and get replaced to get a visual has that arrived

I'm not sure this one but that's typical to a mock-up so I'll ask Ken if that's um that has arrived if it has we'll either take photos or take a site tour I would like to do so yeah we'll make a motion or approve this for another two years

down Brent yes Richard Calderon Yes Rick Mancini yes and next is the veteran Center the Veterans Center that that um let's see it's just leftover money that you have there all of these are really left over money okay veteran Senate uh we had 130 000 um eighty six thousand Seventeen were utilized we have 43 983 uh dollars uh we're going to be doing some assessments and seeing what conditions or what

issues we'll need associated with the roof it could be many many things or there could be nothing at this point so I figured you had the money so I mean I don't the roof is gutters I mean whatever absolutely so that that's what we're going to assess make sure that we utilize everything associated with this roof another one that was just before my time was that in the original scope of the

project we placed a roof and repair so okay okay and uh what's the address of the this Veteran Center is it Pine Street punching okay

755 I'll make a motion Now Grant the two-year extension uh second one second second okay vote Joanne Bentley yes Alex LDS John Brent yes Richard Calderon Yes Rick Mancini yes okay and the public libraries again extra money left over money left over we have twenty seven thousand eight hundred and seventy two dollars again we're going to do an assessment making sure that we that's what we're going to use for

there's any again scuppers flashing God is trained okay there's been no leak since they did the new roof right not nothing to do with the roof there is wind driven rain associated with some of the uh the um the walls I believe it's granite we have there I don't think it's brick it's Granite okay um all right any questions this was the emergency application for the roof funding and the 27 000 would be going

towards additional roof repairs any roof any Associated roof issues yeah correct thank you thank you for you okay can I have a motion to ground extension and we'll make a motion it takes time for two years and I'll second that okay Joanne belly yes yes Richard Calderon Yes Rick Mancini yes okay and um next is the private Joseph Francis green so in it there's three thousand seven hundred dollars and 18 on that on that

project uh we the grant was a thirteen thousand we utilized 9282 for some fence work uh three foot high wrought iron fence around the um the uh monument and uh again I there could be some issues associated now this is this is only for the wrought iron fence so right I need to make sure that that wrought iron fence is in good shape this three thousand seven hundred dollars is just trying to be prudent okay I

think I think gate opens wrong or not the right way look at that so Tech this is almost like a punch list that I'll be doing on something like that instead of giving back we could definitely make sure that that those items are corrected all right any questions I'll just say um kind of in general because it's almost your last one that you're because you just started this position and you kind of have to scope

everything out and make sure everything was done the way you want it and completely understand that um but any additional funds that you do find left over we always appreciate it uh when they're returned because it goes back into the pool each year and you know but as long as it's within the scope and benefits you know the community in the original intent for the public I'm completely fine with all of

this and I I fully agree with that I just starting something new making sure that the folks pry to me with doing things the correct way I just want to make sure that that's yeah and like you know things like the gate opening the wrong like as long as it gets fixed before you know if you have the funds available rather than going through the motions and stuff we want to get

everything you know the way it was intended to so all right um to my colleagues to the left so let me know although I understand you know it's great to you know give some of the funds back but you know with the cities you know in times where there is no money and there you know we have the ability to give this money and having this new position City having this position

overall and Mr Oliveira doing his due diligence I think is very important that he's looking at every aspect that Nick and cranny to make very use of these funds I mean for him to get it back it's it's yeah it's ludicrous I think so I think it's I think he is doing uh doing the right thing I think you know in projects like this again these are City funds you know it's not you can go to

the bank and say hey can you loan me dude it's a huge process this but it it it it takes years just to get just any type of Revenue into the city so you know that's why I for me I speak for myself you know I have an understanding of you know if there is funds are left available I think number one you you you came in under budget to do the project

that you had to do and at this additional funds that you can fix other areas that's going to trickle down on the road that was going to cost you know another 80 versus three thousand you know use the three grand that's kind of my mindset but again I just speak for myself yeah so uh well one of the reasons we wanted to go over this too is uh if we don't use the funding it'll go

into next year's yeah right funding so we want to give a chance the Veterans Center to absolutely right the school department utilized because we did Grant it so if there's anything under you know but if it's not after a certain time you know it isn't oh no absolutely could go back into a project that the city wants to do that so I think I think by next year like Miss Oliveira will have like a

full year cycle and kind of you know yeah I don't think it's gonna it's gonna happen again you know well not as many uh but you know also keep in mind that a lot the majority of all the buildings in the city are old they're falling apart you know and and I'm not throwing stones but you know they haven't been kept up with you know because there's no money and it makes it very challenging for

someone like Miss elevator we're trying to figure out well how can we fix this when we have no funds you know so I mean I think you know we agree there yeah okay uh so do we get a motion I'll make a motion extend it for two years uh second a second okay Joanne belly yes yes okay and the next one is the Oak Grove iron and stonework that falls into the same category we're

just trying to make sure that we utilize that properly and that would be

the only only item I have on that is 17 630 that are left um obviously there's a number of things that could be associated with this Oak Grove iron and stone work I do have the luxury of having the past director on hand um any idea well we continue we can take a look at yeah at the stonework and make sure everything is plugged up correctly and if there's any repairs or Romanians that needs to be

done had already been done yeah I mean I don't know if I trust the past director if he did the right job so yeah that's a joke that was a joke that project was done before I'm more just like want to make sure we don't exceed or add additional scope from the original Grant rewards so that's that's just my main concern all I want to do is make sure that the project was done correctly and as

everyone knows there's there's a right way in this and not right way if it was done um part of the scope nothing none of these funds will be used outside of what's been earmarked yeah it sounds good to me and I think we gave additional funding for the uh the gates to be finished so for Oak Grove yeah okay I mean yeah no I don't grow for North Park North burial ground okay on the contact on

that one on Oak Grove so reach out to me when you're ready absolutely okay any other questions no all the words that are being distributed here really good they all make good common sense and I'm just going to add on that we are all aware that it's taxpayer money that's been put into these funds and that's what we're expending and so I guess being judicious in houses spend and taking them and putting them getting

some back maybe to start another fund for another project that the city has is not such a bad idea either so as long as we're keeping in within the scope that it is taxpayer money we want to be very prudent in its expenditure I will make sure I follow the scope and will not deviate at all but I want to make sure that I cross all the t's dot all my eyes before

I make that that correction as I said all the words are good being spoken here so absolutely all positive so can I have a motion I just just I just have one thing I think one of the hardest things is coming in and taking over a project and you don't you you're not positive it's complete and giving you the opportunity to make sure these projects are complete 100 100 completed

and if it's done and there's money left over great give it back and if it's not done and the money can complete the project great as well it would be very easy to say take the money back it would really be very easy that'd be the easy way and that's that's not how I do deal with this stuff I don't I don't work that way yeah well I I mean and I don't you know I

want to keep dragging us on but I mean it's a new position um you know what Mr Oliveira is doing is just making sure that every project that this committee has funded the work has been done to what the grant was for I miss Oliveira has a background of scope of a work of bits so he knows exactly he can't go outside of that that's the reason why he's here today he has that that position

um you know I was also going to say that I think it probably is more cumbersome if if we just allow him to kind of do his due diligence on all the projects and just come back to the board just once with an update on all the projects you know I think that way he can come because sometimes you know a certain project you're waiting on some information for some you might get a lot

quicker than others we're not sure unless there's an urgency for a certain project that this Board needs an answer like right away I just say hey just just allow him to do his due diligence and what he's trying to do and then come back to the board as a whole and just say okay these are the list of the projects that we discuss you know in you know May 15 20 23 and go down the list

you know that way it's just like send me an email then because if you just reach out to one member of the board then you know I think this is better as a whole if we just get everything all at once after after this when uh we go over the Oak Grove Ironworks it'll be should be giving us the update okay so we won't have them okay every time so okay we're responsible for that project and

updating all of us okay so okay so I got going okay so the person that's assignment yeah I'm sure Alex come to all these meetings but so can I have a motion to Grant the extension on the Oak Grove I'll make an extension uh motion Grant and extension I don't know growth Rocco Joanne belly yes Alex Silva yes Richard Calderon Yes Rick means yes all right thanks thank you very much so Charlie you're next

week uh fire station yeah come on down bye bring up my sidekick with me

I'm Phillip said this is a project we've been working on for a while a lot of masonry work I had a lot of problems getting a masonry to come in and get the job so that's why he's here before us tonight the few new faces there I don't know how much update you would like but to introduced himself Damon address Charles and Gloria Jacobson 388 Rock Street Fall River and we're seeking funds for 77 Freedom Street

which is the old fire station that was built in 1873 by Hartwell Swayze very prominent architect the academy building he did Church Lizzie Borden Church what is it this up next to John Central uh congregational yeah that is examples of his caliber yeah so and this little fire station that I have is 12 000 square feet of three over three floors can I help developed four Apartments out of it and

I had the okay to do an early picture of it with the uh horses fire police station in one building which is as a matter of fact it's exactly the same as on President Avenue the same that the fire yeah the architect so now as far as uh how are you coming with the bids and actual we have a gentleman you know his name you have it in your pocket

my son was more involved with the uh yeah we tried last year too and and really got no one to come out I think people were all so backed up from the pandemic that you just couldn't get anyone but this year we did find someone um and like he said my son was more involved talking to him um they're melger masonry they're out of Providence they've worked on historic buildings in New Bedford and Providence

and with the next week or two they're going to come up with a formula for the masonry because it has to be a special formula and they're going to try to match the original color too um and then they will order material for it so um so that's exciting because finally we're getting somewhere hopefully they show up again right and yeah and we okay okay yeah go ahead no but anyway we do have the pictures in

subotek had done years years ago with some of the you know the building on we we repointed three sides of the building when we bought it which was 30 two years ago yeah and the building was pretty much in really bad shape extremely and we've worked on it ever since as far now you accepted their bid yes well he's coming over actually I bought a aerial lift to help keep the price down on

the masonry as far as building state general however they would do it this is an area left that goes goes up like that it's on the property we have put some repairs into the into the machine so that we can have the Mesa working with what he's capable of doing I don't know so he's going to follow the mass standards historical yeah they were going to try to okay yeah we'll try and do that as best

of sleeping around the building to look as good as possible too but it definitely is a need of repair on that West Side so you had granted US money um 197 000 but there's 22 000 left or 22 000 that you granted us from that time we haven't we didn't um reapply last year because I think the year before you did not grant us yeah 197 000 but we still had 22 000 from

uh let's see from 2020.

so does board have any questions now you're just finishing one this is just finishing one piece of a building the west side correct yes yeah this is the thing before my time yeah so it's not like this is finishing the hallways yeah we're gonna break it up into sections and it's just been you have not received the quote yet from this vendor well what were you what we had said was they're going to come in

we're going to um see how they're doing for the first week see if we're happy with them you know or even maybe a couple of weeks just to see because it's it's expensive it's going to be very expensive otherwise we got the outlet you're not doing it capable of what the standards are take a hike with a machine we feel that that would be instrumental in speeding them along that's all

yeah right but so they're just gonna it sounds almost like piecemeal that's correct that's correct up at the roof in some of the pictures shown here incidentally this booklet here was done by uh Michael Keane I forget the name of the business or the architectural details that's yeah that is quite a booklet showing much you remember John you were just back when we submitted it yeah everybody

on their boarding got the pictures of of the updates at that time it's been a couple years since then now so some of you are in the dark a little bit about exactly what it is so we've broken up to do the different sides to make it easier for us to fund and then but we'll cover these run into problems with finding them missionary and now hopefully this is a small

building in comparison to trying to get the union guys over that supposedly know what their they need to do like they're doing a huge church or something yeah but yeah building isn't small but it's in it's not but it is in comparison to try and get these guys Michael tried to get them from the big city of Boston okay there's not nothing to do with just too small of a project for them to drag some

man there that so we never really got much follow through on it now we do have no way you can just follow through on our own obviously um because we are we have a go ahead yes I'm I'm not um obviously new haven't I'm not aware of the project and what's been done so is your request tonight are you looking for an extension to spend the remaining funds correct that's already been approved and

allotted we didn't have the work completed to draw the money and so you've got twenty two thousand dollars left but you don't have a proposal from this company so you don't know what they're going or you do it's by the hour with my machine by the hour well it's going to cost more than twenty two thousand dollars I can tell you that right now

how many thousand to have Michael Keane drop this extensive eight thousand owner well of monies well the architect has been working on this for a long time Tina is the architect still involved in your project no no okay but he's drawn up all the plant all the all the details of it so so you have funded the architect up until now correct so who will verify that what the company the Mason that's

coming in is doing it correctly I suppose Alex

but they didn't give you any idea that this is going to take you know 100 hours it's going in nope to do okay so you really don't yeah as you go through the booklet here it shows a six foot by eight foot set up by the Eaves that's starting to Bubble yep I I just I would have expected that they would have given you some kind of estimate on the amount of work

left to do one did a couple years ago 160 000 but what his idea was he couldn't really see this paid this booklet here has nice pictures that they took with a drone to see how how bad it is although they can't get into it they don't know what they're getting into when they get up there on the staging and it looks like this part is all that needs to be repaired but they're going

to end up with a much bigger part so no in answer to your question they do not okay kind of concerns me I'm not gonna lie it's almost like picking up the guy at Home Depot you're not sure if he has Insurance what is capable of does he know the Secretary of Standards um because let's say the guy performs at work and you think it's you it's done correctly and then you know down the

road if it gets inspected it's like that's not the right way you know how would that person get paid I mean I'm just you know you know just just a lot of red flags are doing like piecemeal in someone you know it's like hey you know make sure you work yeah sure I'll pay you by the hour I got the machine it just it's it's very long these are public funds you know and it's

you know if it's you know if you're doing it on your own saying hey you're paying yourself it's a little different like hey I I hired my uncle that he's someone knows how to put up a sheetrock when you take your chances there but these are public these are taxpayers dollars and well I'm sure can I have like a quote and I know like hey this you know is this company you know kind

of insurance because I think a a legitimate company is not going to come in and be like hey we're going to pay you hourly they provide you with a whole this is the work that needs to get done this is a scope of work um here's our quote and then you know because at the same time you're also saying that if it doesn't work out then we'll just cut ties

but that's why I brought the machine to try and go about it a different way because the big contractors wouldn't come down from the big city yeah there's a lot of I mean I'm not sure where you're looking and Mr Keane which is the architect an architect he knows their capabilities right is there is there a location I'm not sure if any members of the board know like um you know is there a place

that they can search I mean like I know in in the public you can go live so you can go there's places that you can dig up like you know this specialty type of work I mean I I gotta suspect this there's got to be more than just a handful so yeah there's the internet uh I mean I know I'm just trying to make it easy so I'm the representative attached to

the project so I've met with Charlie and Gloria and Mike Kings of civics when he was still attached to the project and I know firsthand that they have been looking for a masonry expert or a mason or someone to do this work for a very long time my team tried I believe three separate firms that he had relations with and the project was too small for them to even bid on it so I know they've

been doing this for a while I was just going to ask so Mike King subtext vetted this this Mason that you guys are thinking of using or has he kind of signed off on it maybe he signed off on it I don't know if you can say that well yes he has because when I talk to Ian yeah they they okay yeah they got too many other projects going for one thing

um my son is very capable of choosing someone and he's the one who really is is involved with the Mason now too so he's very particular I mean he restores antique yachts and he's not going to put up with anybody who's not doing it correctly it can be his building when they put me down in the ground I was just going to say maybe for a peace of mind or the committee could

perhaps they would text my Keem write a letter kind of saying that the contractor into the Secretary of interior standards um like matching the formula and the color is part of secretary interior standards for Mason work so it sounds like they're moving in the right direction already so if likes of a text would perhaps be willing to just maybe send a letter to the committee so the other committee members can yeah

it's a simple letter or that they can verify or that he can verify they can you know meet into the Secretary of interior standards and that way no question about it you know sort of thing well again they were going to send us to um things that that project that they had done that that were under the same thing yeah they had dinosaur projects in Bedford and in Providence I'm in favor I mean I

I think what would be best for us would be to uh table it table it until July's meeting and I'll give you two months to uh at that meeting we'd like to see the quote and uh you know if you can get it to us beforehand some projects he's done this way we can look it over look the quote over make sure we feel safe with you know moving on and

even if your son wants to come in in that next meeting because I I'd like to see this project get done but it's just a little bit hard it's still a lot this is like I think our third extension so you know yeah but you're not dealing with a big contractor here I I understand that that's why we're going to table it till July's meeting personally I'm I'm in favor of just

moving forward with the extension and then as the liaison my king and whoever could send the letter to me and I'll work through the Secretary of interior standards to verify okay I mean I don't I I differ I mean I prefer to get the letter of support first and then I will you know I'll definitely support an extension from there because we want to make sure the city Tech supports the

work that they're doing this is because you know and you can use this to your advantage telling me the company that uh I have till July if you're going to do this work and you want money it gives you plenty of time to still in your search because I don't see any any problem getting the extension to you but we have had a few but now it'd be nice to see these guys

stepping up getting the paperwork you need for you can give it to us and we can move on I really don't think it's a matter of stepping up super texting my Keen they did a number no no I know they've tried yeah this project with the bidding process so I don't really see the problem with giving the extension I understand it by the hour sounds kind of Mickey mouse-ish but that's

I can't see a guy giving me 160 thousand dollar bid to do that over there this over here that there it's I think I don't see a problem with the uh doing it by the hour that's that's that's fine because you only have a section you're working on so that's that's fine uh it'd just be better to see something in writing that he's going to be doing it I mean I don't see a problem with giving

you the extension I just okay I see a little more on our end so exactly what do you want from us uh uh I would like to see a quote and a quote that he's going to start to work we would like to get I mean I would like to make a motion to to um for the board to receive a quote from the actual contractor and also a support letter from CV Texas actually their

architectural work with their stamp of approval but they've been saying there is no quote they're doing it at an hourly yeah okay well if we can get a letter of support from city tax I think at each time they're going to start working next week next week yeah we were so happy I think okay well you'd say next week earlier so oh saved us a little bit of a you know

uh but uh this has been an ongoing process for multiple years looking for a masonry expert I think my word is you know about the extension is the work getting done so I I don't want to give an extension if we're still going to be like out nobody well we'll probably have to kick in ourselves obviously the criteria the criteria for an extension in the past has pretty much been that they're

ongoing work on it and they have been doing ongoing work in it so I don't really see the need to change the criteria for an extension right now um no I mean if you have them ready to start I don't have a problem with an extension that bringing over three samples of stuff he sent away for formulas and we'll hold it up or and look at it with the existing building with what he's

mixed up that's where he that's where we're at with him okay at this point all right okay uh can I have a motion to Grant an extension do you think you could get a letter from Mike Keane within a week saying verifying that the contract or well you said the contractor was going to send proof to pass Community preservation act projects under historic preservation right would that be suitable because they had to meet

Secretary of interior projects earlier I mean you guys have said that um you know they might order it so yeah with three sentences you know you know it's in support it's not it's not a challenge as I said he's already not attached to the project so it'd be hard to build for a free letter I don't think it's I mean considering the amount of volume that he gets not just from the city from from this

committee I mean I think a quick simple letter it shouldn't be difficult at all I mean I think he's been working I'm sure with you guys for a very long time just like he's done a lot of projects for the city and he's ranked in a lot of Revenue that's just kind of where I stand the out of the question to Grant say a 90-day extension this would allow the project to proceed

and then in two or three months when when the letters are presented and we see that the work is being moved forward then we could extend the full well basically you're telling you you'll have everything by next month whether you're working or not right unless he wants to come up with some reason not to come but that's what was agreed that he's bringing us his material and Triumph

also I just would add that the onus is on the property owner to make sure that the work does meet Secretary of the Interior standards because they would be liable to pay for the work to undo the work if it did not meet Secretary of interior standards yeah okay well Mike I guess we would be on the hook if the work is not so who's going to check the work who who has the

expertise to know that if it met the standards and I'm new to the board so I'm posing I'm asking a question who qualified who is certified to make sure that they have met the secretarial standards in this board who qualifies who's certified it's not I'm just again I don't know that's what I'm asking them well we've never had anyone certified that that's not a requirement on the committee yeah

because I mean you'd have uh so how can a Committee Member then say okay to look at the project I mean you know you can't go over there and say okay it's a mixed match it's a different color obviously they didn't follow the standards I mean we have to do some studying ourselves to go over and if we don't think it is we can always get a outside uh opinion Okay so yeah um

so what's the board motion to extend I'll make a motion to extend the 77 Freedom Street Mass soya fire station project extend for 90 days so years three months to be our normal two years I'm I don't really see the difference if the work's getting started in a week yeah I stick with our two-year extension okay I have a second also again okay vote Joanne Bentley yes Alex so yes Richard Calderon no

uh Rick Mancini yes okay thank you if you can send Sandia an email let us know when you're going to be starting that way yeah emails don't work on our computer okay let me just stop by and see if I know and I'll forward it to everybody and all I do is push something on the computer and I tilt it all right thanks for listening you're welcome thank you all right good luck thank you every

every time I come there

when he does get to the point where the mix and the brick maybe you want to give Alex a call for he can make sure we hope that all eyes on all that stuff okay thank you all right again thank you

next uh we just got all of our paperwork together we kind of go over it we did last year but we constantly uh look over I mean there might not be any uh changes I don't know if we wanted to do anything tonight uh but uh I personally would like more time I think yeah okay so I agree with that um like I say we have the uh Community guideline project submissions that we updated uh

typically updated everything a few years ago yeah but like the funding application we'll put that on for the next meeting uh simple things is the CPA uh application uh eligibility pretty cut and dry I mean we can look it over but that's just checking off boxes and aiming organization uh yeah I guess I mean I agree with with Alex definitely like a little bit more time I just haven't had the opportunity

so we should kind of like okay thank you okay yeah that's the problem then we got community preservation uh on collusion uh certificate of payment request I don't think any of this really needs uh any changes on that as much as maybe looking over the eligibility of that kind of stuff certificate of completion that's pretty cut and dry but look all that over we'll put that on the next upcoming meeting

uh because we are going to be going over the uh CPA uh master plan um and we'll start on that and then we'll present that to the board too um see um new business yeah the only thing I had uh we didn't print it out but uh there was a new thing I went to uh parks for all in Mass a nice organization to kind of uh they did share space with the CPA they moved

out on their own they got pretty big met the new director of DCR very motivated uh I guess we're getting judicial funding to that for the parks uh considering parks in the country we are number 50.

in funding Parks state parks the state the state yeah Mississippi and Alabama fund their Parks more than we do uh it's a non-profit there's a website uh uh you can go to masspark all um if I asked Stuart they're looking at maybe uh one of the nice things I liked about it was they have a uh a section for Gateway cities so the the uh you know something to look at now

CPAs look I mean I don't know if we as an organization could join uh Stewarts I look into that because we have memberships with them but I'm not sure because of membership with them it's like uh they help us get our funding or this one I think it would do too it's not a big fun day I mean I I went around and did it myself uh 100 to make sure uh sponsor so I something to

look at is yeah but any other new business actually Rick went up there we had a real nice time actually thanks good to a good meeting yeah very very informative a lot of nice people a lot of interaction which was good yeah awesome I met the the gentleman that did the legal work for the bio Reserve right most Fall River I mean so uh it was a good meeting and they had actually a

good response of however you know so they seem to think forward we're setting in the right direction as long as we can keep going no that was very true what John is saying was very interesting in that we met so many individuals and when asked where we came from was Fall River and we had all I would say all of the comments were positive about the growth and the

things that are going on and and how the city seems to be changing and rolling around for the benefit of of the good so it was interesting comments because they were getting countdown yeah all right can I have a motion to adjourn make a motion like that second I'll second that Rococo Joey Bentley yes Alexander yes Mr Calderon yes yes