5.30.2023 Fall River City Council

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here Dion here Kilby here well Liberty Pelletier Ferrera here proposal here Washington here president Camaro here pursuant to the open meeting Lord any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit this meeting to any medium attendees are therefore advised in such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those

present and not deemed acknowledged and permissible motion open the public hearing seconds at all in favor aye public hearing is now open we have one joint core location Massachusetts electric company and Verizon New England Incorporated for more jointly owned poll locations and relocations as follows President Avenue and North Main Street one new jointly owned poll location two jointly owned Polo relocations and one

solely owned poll relocation not Main Street installed one jointly owned poll on President Avenue relocate one solely owned on North Main Street relocate two jointly owned polls are not mainstream National Grid to relocate three poles two jointly owned and one solely owned and set one new jointly owned pole on North Main Street at present Avenue due to the Reconstruction of the intersection pole 40 will move six feet

West pole 41 to Anchor and anchor will move six feet Southwest and pull 41-1 will move 12 feet South poll 13-50 President Avenue is the new set that will better service Riverside gas station on the northeastern corner of the intersection in accordance with plans number 30752775 are there any proponents to this public hearing we have one proponent please come down give you state your name and address for

the record and just tell us why we should support this please

my name is Aaron Roy 1250 brain Point Road in Somerset National Grid um the purpose of this project is for the Reconstruction of the intersection at North Main Street in president Ave on the widening the intersection um which would put our poles in the road so um for each of the the two jointly on poles from moving approximately six feet um into the new sidewalk and on the opposite side uh 12 feet south of pole

41-1 uh the new pole pole 13-50 um like the note red will better service the Riverside gas station on the northeast corner the Transformers are currently located on pole 41 if we relocate them to pull 13-50 which is the new pole um it would reduce the amount of Y across the intersection as well as better service uh the gas station as well so that's pretty much it any questions thank you very much thank you thank you

are there any opponents to this public hearing hearing any opponents motion to close here second motion there being no opponents most of the coach public hearing has been made and seconded all in favor aye public hearing is now closed six o'clock has anyone signed up for Citizens input time no there being no residents sign up for Citizens input time we'll begin with the committee on

finance unless someone needs to take a break Council C2 Council Dion yeah I just have a question um I know there was a Citizens input that was written um from a member of the um yep health insurance board I can't think of the name right now um the fact that they're a member of that board should that be read into the record I don't know it's in regard to the to

ilet yeah for the pension for funding of the pension liability Etc

to members of the council which I did what's that yeah

city council committee and finance will come to order Clerk of Colorado here Dion here Kilby here Pelletier Pereira here proposal here Washington here president Camaro here pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit this meeting to any medium attendees are therefore advised on such recordings or Transmissions are being

made or they're perceived or unperceived by those present and not deemed acknowledged and permissible item number two since item number one since it's a part-time no one signed up item number to a discussion with the administration regarding Park fee revenues being directed to the park division budget discussion purposes could you please come down this was referred on April 11 2023

good evening good evening come to achieve six Council vice president prayer yeah I I put that resolution in to come to finance um many times I mean we've done more parks and playgrounds and have added to it but we really haven't added a whole lot to the budget to take care of that um and when people use different services at the park Department that money goes into general fund why isn't it going into the park

Department to help them with the maintenance of the parks it should be going to them I know you know they rent parks for different events and we should have it going back to them so I can respond here sure sure can everybody hear me yep so um when you when this was referred I did take a look at the last five years and the park revenues are about ten thousand dollars

the high in 2020 was eleven thousand five hundred and fifty two dollars in essence in my opinion we are trying to because we're funding more than that to the parks than just the the ten thousand yeah and I would say continue to fund what you fund but give them what they get too so you put them at a higher you know and I believe that we I mean we are looking at other resources we've

allocated arpa funds specifically to parks to help no and I agree but oppa funds you and I both know that's going to go away yeah and you know you don't even have enough manpower there to keep you know to keep the lawn mode in the uh in the spring in the summertime um it's difficult for them plus the islands that they do around the city and people want the parks to look nice they

want them to be clean um I just think that you need to give them more money whether you do it this way or through the budget they need more money to make sure that it's kept up I mean I've had people complain about litter barrels not being emptied out frequently enough well I don't know about frequently enough because I think that they do I'm glad to see that people are using the

barrels because that's a plus better than seeing little strewn around the parks but that's just my thought trying to get them a little bit more money because we do have more parks and playgrounds that we're taking care of now I mean and I and I do believe that our new director of operations is looking at a whole plan for the parks and we are looking to you know try to use all sorts

of funding resources to get more money into the parks so okay I'll go with that but I I just know that they need it with that I yield thank you Mr President any other further questions for the park for the administration regarding the box and the funding come to C2 comes to diem yeah just out of curiosity um so is it consistent that it's 10 000 every year or I can I'm sure it has to

vary according to uh I don't even know who what people pay for other than people who've had carnivals in the Parks or something like that so 22 is 9 385.21 was 10 659 20 was 11 552 and 19 was 10 293.

I mean and nothing in 23. well as of today I is uh nine thousand four hundred ninety three I missed that one okay thank you that I yield thank you there'd be enough further questions we'll go on to item number three oh sorry Council c three cards could be on number three okay item number three discussion with the representatives from the administration regarding the bank Street Armory I mean

Municipal Veterans Memorial referred May 16 2023 we're gonna hold discussion Council C3 countries thank you council president um I'm going to entertain a motion to table on this uh Council prayer at this point um the mayor appointed a committee actually council president asked me to serve on it and I agreed um and I first made a meeting meeting is Thursday um at 10 o'clock so I'm respectfully asking my colleagues

to table this um it's a committee of really highly highly qualified individuals who know Fall River know the history of the Armory so I'd be I'd like to table as council president in order to have the meeting and put the signing agenda for our next meeting so I hope I get a second second motion hasn't uh there's a motion on it to table motion I'd like a second please because it wasn't a second okay so no

discussion no discussion I'm the one that put in the resolution just just so my account says no I was not aware that he was going to take place on Thursday I had I wouldn't schedule it on this meeting but since that's the case the motion has been Council Bill I'm sorry it's a feasible feasibility you know what I'm saying so it's knowledge is power so we just want

to see what we have to do roll call on table in the issue real quick

on the motion two table counts as Kadeem no Dion no Kilby yes the Liberty Pelletier Pereira object should we have for the next meeting

sorry item number four discussion with representatives from Massachusetts Department of Transportation the city administrator and the city engineer for the general update on Route 79 the Bull Street Corridor improvements project referred on May 16 2023 the whole discussion so you can just introduce yourselves for the record and what department you work please thank you

good evening Mr chairman and members of the committee I'm Dan aguiar the director of engineering and planning also the city engineer here this evening with me is also Valerie kilduff and that will allow her to introduce herself as well good evening I'm with massdot I am the project manager for the Fall River Project for massdot and I'm here to I guess answer some questions if I can

yeah basically I I filed the resolution because I was getting questions from a number of people and some people can go online and see what the plan is and other people find it a lot easier to see what the real thought is at city council chambers by the administrations and master could you just give us a brief understanding of who owns a property right now I believe it's the state's property not the city's

property correct Route 79 and then we just what we want to know is just who and how will that land be distributed going forward who's going to have control over it will it go to the City Council Command real estate will it go to the city Administration will it go out to bid from the state well the state entity have something to do with it if you could just give us an overall how

that land will get divvied up and what the intentions on the plan time so the way that the project is set up right now all of the land is still owned by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts at least the portion that is the elevated portion of Route 79 with the overpasses that has just come down there were portions of divorce rate that are part of a state highway layout system that are either jurisdiction or

non-jurisdictional what that means is there's a portion that dot would always be responsible for as far as repair and permitting and there were sections that were the responsibility of the city there was also a city roadway layout that governs the outsides of Duval Street that are at the lower levels of the corridor itself but currently with the land being owned by Mass DOT there has not been a

specific designation of what body that land will be transferred into whether it would be the city directly real estate committee Redevelopment Authority that has not been determined and that really there's been no conversation since I've been here to determine where or what the possibilities are this is still probably although you see a lot of work being done quickly now that's a lot of the big

work we're probably two to three years away from that conveyance and determining where it will be going and getting through that process so right now all the exciting stuff is done moving forward there'll be a lot of painstaking utility relocations that will probably take us through you know a good portion of the remainder of of this construction season before you start seeing pretty things we

all like to see pretty things so this is now going to go into the more difficult time what I can offer is that on behalf of the city we meet with all of the project proponents massdot the design Engineers the contractor on a weekly basis and I can tell you that everyone involved in that team has been fantastic to deal with very responsive I get a call with regards to traffic or someone

having a concern I relate that to Val and the rest of the team and they immediately hop on it the same day or at least or at least tomorrow so if the question again is back to who is going to get that land at some point in time and how will it be developed that has not been determined at this time at least not to my knowledge thank you councilman seat number two councilor Dion

um I don't know if it's it still stands as it did a few a couple of years ago in the Waterfront urban renewal plan it was pretty well spelled out that once this work was completed there would be 10 Parcels of land that would be available for development um that the RDA would be the um entity who would determine who would get each parcel of land including an acre of land that will be connected to

the pier I think there'll be an so it'll be the peer plus an acre of land because that whole side is going to be all waterfront property there won't be any uh travel on that side so again I don't know if that's been changed but I do know that the original Waterfront urban renewal plan that was the intention so what I can offer is that there are in fact um 10 Parcels not all of them are

developable there are drainage Parcels or Apostles that are specific for drainage purposes or some for utilities um but there are 10. currently the way that it's been laid out the 607 developable fossils they are larger that doesn't mean that they can't be broken up into smaller and get disposed of um that plan just came out I think just a couple of weeks ago after we had asked just preliminarily so that we can stop

planning what are the sizes actual you know dimensions and areas of the developable portion of these pieces so that we've just received recently right I I do know that the Redevelopment Authority has always in the process of seeking a funding source for a master plan for that whole area again the Redevelopment Authority is not you know it's not the city of Fall River that's right it's a quasi-government agency

that I deal with on occasion but I'm not privy to all all that they do they do ask for our opinion and we give it but I'm not I'm not up to speed with all of the intricate details of of where they're at but I do know that that funding um Source request this plan for instance that we're speaking of was needed to move forward with with that request so I can't tell

you that that is in the works no no um we're under uh that potentially could have been taken by eminent domain by the RDA some of those properties were taking out of taken out of the plan people were given the option of upgrading their properties so they could stay as they are so I know the original number is lower than what it used to be again I don't know what the number is

I'm not involved in that anymore but I don't know that that also existed um yeah so I guess that's pretty much all I have to contribute so with that I yield thank you thank you council president Kamara thank you so you said earlier that it could go to the city or could go to the city council real estate why that's what I meant I don't know in some some form or fashion

those three bodies in the Redevelopment Authority will have their hands in what happens and who this goes to I'm assuming so from the state you from the state correct yes what is what how do you see it typically what happens with these is um we would finish the project and then we go through what we call a um basically we turn it over but it's a whole process when you say you finish

the project what is that detail did that mean the roadway the infrastructure that means the whole project is but you're not going to divide up the land no no you're just going to do the construction underground utilities all of the work yep and we will leave it as a roadway a big green parcel for you all to deal with um but what happens is um we have there's a memorandum of understanding that gets signed by the

city and mass massdot um where we call it a discontinuance and because we're discontinuing the state layout and handing it to the city and that's a whole legal process that has to happen after the project is complete and we have started talking like as Dan alluded to as to how this is going to to happen but there's no there's been no paperwork no paper trail right now because it's a

couple of years in the future as Dan talked about also um a couple years in the future but you already started to talk about it and I like that because that's why I found a resolution I think we should all be talking well because the discontinuance takes it does take it is a legal process and um it also a lot of times never now you guys are in a situation where

you want it to happen because you want that that developable property um typically when we enter into these that's not the case that people are who's taking part in those discussions if you don't mind me asking um right now there there there's only been honestly a discussion on how we were going to do it so what like Dan had said he they needed to have the pieces of they wanted to see what the properties

were that were going to be left um it will it will take place with massdot some foreign yes but Federal Highway will be involved I'm sure as well because Federal because it is a Federal Highway funds were used to create it so um they have told us that they will be involved with the discussions as well but this won't cost the city any money will it to obtain them I have no answer for that

maintenance problem is that historically what happens for the discontinuance yeah depends on the level of what the type of Road it is and like I said Federal highways involved so I'm not sure what's going to happen with Federal Highway they have been on the outskirts of this and they only recently have said that they're going to be involved with the process because they're going to have to sign

off as well so so you're going to do all the infrastructure work put the roadway in leave us a big lot of green grass or on green grass let's hope not green grass the city will decide how it's going to divvy up the properties the city will be responsible for that yes how many streets of roadways you can put in is it is going to be like just one major artery going through there are you going

to put in Cross we are reconnecting yeah um a bunch of your roadways that have been separated out um I don't have a plan I can explain it all yeah I know it so well yeah so so first of all um not that Valerie needs me to to defend some of her comments but Valerie is the project manager for the construction activities taking place now okay nothing having to do with the high level

questions that that you are potentially seeking answers no no I just I just want to make sure that we're well aware of what's Happening from the beginning as a city is this is the beginning okay of that of that part of it so in a nutshell and we all know that the city very well the final project let's start from the North End of the project Brightman Street as it currently exists now will

become a two-way again where it comes out to Lindsay and will now extend through Duval Street North a much fancier prettier new Dupont Street North continue across the open spans which used to be the elevated 79 through to 79 what's our divorce Street on the other side South sure and those two intersections will be signalized into sections so that's the first Connecting Point that brings the North End of the

city through this Corridor over to the Waterside of this project of the Wall Street coming back from that way there will be another Crossing at I believe the next one is is Quarry going all the way through or does it go straight to present president president would be the next one so between President and Brightman that's actually the largest developable parcel okay so then President Avenue will go

through again very similarly the way that it does now intersections you know signalize that each again wide and prettier uh shared walkways new Landscaping drainage CSO improvements okay then we moved down Turner Street which comes out currently now at the new bay Coast Bank and apartment building that will now continue straight through as well all the way to Duval Street South again signalized at both

intersections and then just because just north of that is where the train station sits currently now then we will move further down to where the southern U-turn exists now possibly in front of the Cove where we dive down over the overpass now that will be reconstructed with the new bridge coming down and that street will also be the fourth connector bringing the southerly end of the site

over and through so there'll be four connecting streets all signalized that will provide access for pedestrians bicyclists and uh Vehicles okay one last question show me guys other questions though as far as parking goes yep are we considering any type of parking garage anywhere on the new land that's being developed or Battleship parking lot area is there any talk about having parking

down there at all yes in in multiple locations so in the short term um during construction because a bunch of the parking along Duval Street was has been impeded due to construction we're in the process of creating some potential parking solutions to to that area that we should have resolved within the next 30 days to help us through the construction time period long term yes the independent

partials themselves and some of the ones that may not be considered developable for other uses we are looking into providing Municipal parking facilities through some of that area as well as down below the battleship and under the the bridge there were a few massdot on Parcels down there now there's a little triangular one that we work with when we have the campground people and the Boy Scouts go to the

battleship so we're in the process of hopefully acquiring some of those to provide some additional parking and other Parcels south of that so yes there will be there will be an influx in the creation of Municipal parking like a pocketbook a parking garage or just an area where they can those under the bridge because they're they're limited by height those would be at grade all of

the individual Parcels themselves those will most likely have their own garages but yes we would be looking at in a few strategic locations there is room for us to provide either at grade or Deck Parking as well the discussions that we have had with is just just creating a parking deck without a building above it isn't the greatest thing to to look at when you're looking through this card or

in the types of things that we want to do so what will end up happening for the the I think the kind of development that we're going to be looking for they will be most likely you know a deck or two underneath some of these buildings that we we see constructed through that area what type of development are you looking for down there are we talking hotels restaurants I have my own opinions but

you know I'm only part of a team of many people but yes I mean who decides though that's that's a big part of this well in general so I know the Redevelopment Authority through this master planning process and that's just what they've just started now is to look at and we hire a consultant to have come down and look and say okay what is the viability of this could we support one hotel could

we support two hotels how many units of residential housing could we support down in this area what types of retail on what floors just the first floor or could you see a multi-story uh retail facility is there a high restriction on any multi-stories are they going to go down there currently now under the current zoning what happens in the way that this was was laid out six stories

yes so this this portion of that area falls under the wtod zoning District the water transient orientated development which sits now currently on the Westerly side of Duval Street so if nothing was done that entire area would fall under the development the zoning development requirements of what that is which allows for a six-story building you could go higher with a special permit

under current zoning but we're looking at potentially at least for site development purposes looking at different Landscaping Provisions parking requirements to incorporate different zoning requirements to have developers meet a higher standard than even what our WTO D zoning District allows this is only for podcasts for residential or condos the difference is it's greatly difference in that district

for instance if you have an apartment building that has over 20 units they require parking at a rate of 1.25 spaces without hitting that threshold so it's to promote you know buildings with higher densities it's two parking spaces per unit is that what this is currently in place now for that District that's currently what's there now it's for sure if you're under 20 units two units two parking spaces per unit if you

exceed the 20 units then you can break it down to 1.5 or 1.25 there I think there were three different thresholds and because as you increase units you do need a less density or you know required density for parking all right well thank you that's all the questions I have for now but I'm glad we started the conversation and please keep us abreast of anything we will and I and

I know and I got I mean everybody has busy schedules every time D.O.T does a um a public offering which they've already done too mostly to inform the public of Hey What Can you expect traffic wise or so we've had two of these already and I do think the invites go out so they're very quick they're usually in the evening they are recorded I believe um so you can log on to the state's website

um yeah or this specific project and you can see them even if you're just looking at pictures there's a wealth of knowledge and just looking at pictures and not even reading anything the battleship parking lot area is that under the state's domain or on the hours the the one that's currently on that is under that's under the state believe it's DCR is it possible to put a municipal Municipal Garage on that no we

don't we wouldn't have the rights to the land with DCR and the environmental requirements for how that was originally permitted um would make that very difficult all right because someone mentioned to me that would be the best spot and I don't think we all know anything well no I mean it's when you look at what would a parking deck look like down there you know potentially blocking you know a view of

a carousel or a battleship so you have to look at the surrounding areas although if you look at it as a as a flat piece of paper and you see a square yeah that would be a great place because it is a location that's needed but there are multiple at grade locations down in that end that we are working on okay thank you um I applaud my uh my colleague for putting

this forward and I I think the conversation needs to be had in terms of the master planning so I think that's the key component of it so if we can figure out you know through the administration what it's going to be looking like because regardless of what transpires it still has to come back to the legislative body for acceptance so um it's coming back to the city council for acceptance of the property so now uh

to make that determination as to whether it goes to the Redevelopment Authority or stays at the city council level for development um you know I think a master plan is absolutely needed in getting a firm to come in here and tell us what's viable hotels residential units mixed use things of that nature makes the most sense that we're all on the same page we have the input we know the data that's

behind all the decision-making process and then we can make the a more educated decision as to whether it makes more sense with the Redevelopment Authority or does it stay with the city in terms of the development uh portion of that so I just want to throw that out there for my colleagues that it is coming back to us um but I would ask the administration to start having some discussions so that

we can kind of figure out in terms of Master planning getting funding because you know a master plan is probably going to take about a year to get going you know by the time they go out they take you know traffic studies they do some uh market analysis you know they're gonna they're gonna put this report together then I'm gonna have discussion so I don't want to wait to the last minute

when we're talking about two three years of a project still ongoing if we can have these discussions uh in conjunction with the projects continuing to move forward then once that conveyance comes over we're ready to to kind of get the ball rolling and not wait another year year and a half for potential development of that area so with that I yield thank you Council come to seat six Council vice president Hi the only

question that I have is just for the general public to know where the road is now under Wall Street and we're getting all this property on the side is the road going to remain there or is the property going to work but to the land that we have so Duval Street heading north which is on the easterly side that runs along the gas station along the building at the corner of Turner bottom of President

Avenue that Plaza up to Lindsay Street you know that it heads over to Brightman Street it basically stays where it is shifted a little bit so that we can provide you know grass strips shared fish paths for you know it's double Lanes 14 feet wide and Landscaping strips different types of turning Lanes to to take a right onto President Avenue or to take a left onto the other side street so in general

the way things logistically work now and and look is pretty much exactly what you'll see later again as I stated previously a lot prettier you know and a lot newer and the road that runs along Point Gloria same thing to me I went to meetings and I said I think that that road should be moved so you have all that land there so you're going to knock down at all the overpasses and we're

going to have a green strip in the middle and we're going to have a road on both sides correct but we're not going to connect it to what we already have so people are going to be crossing the street to get to whatever venues we have in the middle I said that then I guess they didn't pay attention but or it wasn't feasible to do or what have you but I think

that land where where you have Heritage State Park veterans by Centennial Park if you had all that land up and then had the road on above it to go back and forth makes sense so now we're going to have people crossing the street so yeah so what will happen is again as I stated there will be four cross sections or four roadways that bring you through and those are all both streets and these

shared use paths and pedestrian turns conversation when the conversation came up and I was only part of it at the very end if you were to like what you're saying is to shift all of Duval Street the side you're talking about that runs in front of the Cove over to the west side you would now be creating Parcels of land that either connected or disconnected the existing Parcels to the roadway system so we have

existing landowners that have Frontage along a right-of-way if we were to take or create a parcel of land let's say let's look at Commonwealth Landing for instance so if we took that road at Bicentennial Park and at Commonwealth landing and push that part of Duval Street over to match the other side you would now be creating a new parcel of land that would now disconnect Commonwealth Landing from the

roadway system so we would now we would have these longer stretches of road to get to the existing parcels and then we would be adding potentially land to Bicentennial Park so we would be creating a bunch of smaller Parcels that would be that would interrupt the existing uses that are along the Waterfront rather than be able to be able to create large Apostles in the interior basically creating not just a

waterfront stretch but basically you know another viable area of of blocks and different streets creating as much Street Frontage as possible which promotes the amount of development that can take place through there so rather than minimal Street Frontage with long narrow Lots we now have very you know great amounts of Frontage with more with longer Parcels of land that run along

the actual traveled way if they were if there were if there was nothing along the Waterfront in existence then I agree potentially some of what you of what you've commented on would could I just think we're spending a lot of money doing that and I don't like to have to cross streets and there you're going to have a place that you're going to have to cross streets and I know we're going to put

pedestrian cross lights and everything else but you still haven't hugged it all together that's my opinion I said it at the meeting I I went when they had it down at um at the Heritage State Park with openings because one of the openings one of the businesses it wasn't wide enough um brought that to their attention that was kind of rectified it's like you can't come in as a Monday Morning

Quarterback when nobody's been to the meetings and heard how things are going along the way um but I I hope it works out I understand what you're saying but you know I think that there's a way to get roadways there even when they did the new job that they did all of those things should have been underground and they didn't because why it was going to cost more money

so because it was going to cost them all money um you know you do it halfway but I think if we're going to spend money on this or if the state's going to spend money on this that if it's a little bit more that we're spending but it makes sense in the long run that you do it maybe having at some committee meeting or something having a DOT come down and doing their

a little slide presentation that the public is able to see on and I think getting the administration to work on whatever master plan they're going to do and getting us all in the loop right away is better we've been trying to get a discontinued piece of land I've talked to you about it with that that attorney from dot it's been since 2001. right it's tied up in land 2020 really in 2001

and still not even a letter that we can clean up an area so my faith is a little just diminished uh well I can tell you this invalid I the joke about this often um for 28 years I had no love loss for Mass DOT yeah I was always at the other end of the permitting Spectrum right and it was never easy but since I've been here I can tell you how difficult that

things are how well done but when you're dealing in a system like this there are some hurdles and things take time I can't tell you how wonderful the relationship has been um and I tell her all the time oh I think Mary Dewey dot is phenomenal I mean I mean I've worked with great people there we are a different organization than we were 20 30 years ago no I've had really positive um interactions with some people

um from dot but I'm a I'm kind of a doer if this needs to be done let's get it done and sometimes the wheels of government work so slowly it frustrates the hell out of me I'll be honest with you we understand it but thank you for coming down in sharing what you did with us thank you Liberty hi thank you I just have two questions and I apologize if I I miss this

um who owns the land is it State on the land and they're going to give it to you it is on that's where they come that's how the conversation started so it is owned by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts it will be conveyed to the city through some form or fashion whether that's to the city directly whether it's disposal by the Redevelopment Authority that has not been determined yet those talks are

really just fledgling beginning now so what I can offer is that if you would like to get you know a regularly scheduled update on these things every three months or four months or you all have my cell phone number feel free to reach out to me if I don't have the answer for you I speak to Val on a on a continuous basis about this project so don't be afraid even if it's the most

foolish question that somebody asked you and you don't have the answer don't be afraid to call and ask but if you would like to get you know a scheduled update whether it's even in writing or something like this don't be afraid to ask on every every week I said you know we meet as a group 30 people Val for instance comes down from Boston every Tuesday so this worked out fairly well

other than the time of day but so we had a meeting this morning at 10 o'clock to go over the entire construction schedule down to you know where's Comcast line on this street and I sit through all of these things I try to pay attention to it all for some of it doesn't concern me who are you saying comes down Val valve came down okay every comes down every Tuesday to meet in person so they

have a field office over on Weaver Street um and there's probably oh I don't know 20 people that attend that in person and then a number of others on on Zoom whether they're I mean it was the bridge demolition contract is the the design Engineers multiple uh Consultants from the construction company multiple dot um it's it it runs I'm very impressed with how it runs that's all I can say

good well we do get the every two or three week email update so we've been right following Along on that it's tough to follow those I mean I get you know six a day because I have technically six emails that get flooded to me from people that have left in the past but they're still in the chain and they get forwarded so I'm hitting delete all day long and saving the last one so they but

they do do a good job so it was going to say was in that meeting there is a section that we get to that has to do with public Outreach and what's being done at that time uh specifically today it had to do with some some different street closures that were happening like on Lindsay Street in front of mezzer 21 where they're working on CSO and Sewer work there's so the utility part of this

project to be honest with you is really the biggest part of this project and that's not pretty no nobody likes to spend money on stuff that's in the ground but that's really what needs to come first to be able to build on top of that okay but once it comes to us at the city's intent that it's going to go through the Redevelopment Authority but potentially I guess I offered that the Redevelopment Authority is in the

process of seeking uh some grant funding to have a master plan created for that area to look at the different types of uses and how many of those uses can we accommodate in that area and then the only other question I had is I know there was some overview shots on the website and online is there any sort of a map available that shows like where those four cross streets are going to be absolutely yeah

I have them in my office um you can see them online they are online feel free to come by um I've got a plan as long as this table um that I show to people all the time so it seemed like the big aerial shot which is yeah so so you can look at it you know on that pretty picture or if you just want to see I have one that the

valve provided maybe a month or two will go that basically just deals with traffic markings and where the signals are that makes it very easy to see because you're not looking at all of the utilities and it's basically looking at you know a street on a nice clean plan so you can understand what happens where would you be able to email that was that could you email that yeah I can yeah all

right thank you it's a little overwhelming when you open it to be able to zoom in and find where you want to look at I mean it's a lot so either way but yeah I can yeah if there's something you want to see like let us know let Dan know and we can get you thank you the plan of whatever you're looking for we'll try anyway I'm just curious about

the streets that are going to go through and where the travel flights were yeah so they'll be again yeah I don't think you were here so it'll be but you did so yeah so Brightman President Avenue Turner and then where the U-turn is now that'll be a 90 degree Corner in under that section and you probably haven't all seen it but that southerly end with a uterine currently exists now that's where they'll be

um there'll be Park settings some plaques under the bridge itself has some modest display spaces again I can't take credit for any of these things they were all in the works prior to to my coming here but when when you look at the things that are being incorporated into this this isn't just reconstructing the street that's that's what my office does just boring repavement and new

sidewalks but which we get excited about anyway right but but this will be otherworldly when this gets completed yeah it's it's a I'm we don't get often get a chance to do a project like this like again we're D.O.T we're like Dan just said we pave streets and put up highways so um you know this is a unique design for me as well and I'm excited about this project I think it's going to be a

really wonderful thing once this is all done we are at the hundred percent almost at the 100 level for the design I think that's coming in in July mid-july so we're working and we're working right now with some even some Redevelopment that's happening right now making sure that we've got what we need for those people to get their their utility services and their curb openings and

whatever they need so you know the more Dan and I like you said we talk a lot because I need more information coming from the people that are actually doing some Redevelopment as well now so we get the plan right and we don't have to reduce uh stuff you don't you don't want somebody coming in you know I mean we have a five-year moratorium here right where we have the ability to hold people

off we don't want this project to get done and then one of these developers or some of the landowners says oh I've decided to do this but all the work that's just been done in front of my property the driveways the trees the walkways I need to change it all so we're trying to incorporate at least the larger ones that are existing fossils into this this 100 design and I know I

throw a wrench into a bunch of what they want to do often even if it's down to how wide is this grass strip where does this tree go and they take the comments and they incorporate that into the design so it's it's been great it's nice to see that it's obviously it's moving yeah it's moved they're moving they're they're ahead of schedule honestly um they're moving very and it's it's all

been good actually I have I have no negatives either like the city's been great the the contractor we hired is is um very easy he's pretty easy to work with um you know we don't let him we don't let them get ahead of himself do we Dan but we but it's been all in all it's been a pretty pretty smooth it's still perfect it is early you have a lot the

complicated part is going to start like Dan said the utility stuff on this job is tremendous there's a lot of um there's a lot of stuff in that road and it's all got to get moved everything's getting moved down to I mean you sit and I'll hear them talk for 45 minutes about we need to go find out where all of these Comcast lines currently are not only where they are but what elevation

they're at because new utilities are being woven through and run alongside and yeah because we've Incorporated a lot of CSO sewer work into this project to make it even more complicated so they've had to accommodate that design you know into theirs as well so every day that's why you when the project goes out for bid it's at like a 25 the that's the level that the plans are at and then as they learn

once the contractor is picked they're out there digging holes all the time trying to figure out where what is and Dig Safe isn't always right and it's certainly not accurate enough for what they need um then it gets to a 75 design and then now they're approaching 100 and then then you can but you know the 100 a lot of it's not stuff that you won't you won't need it for another year but it

does need to ultimately get onto a plan so that you know the whole project can move forward what is the timeline another three years three years yeah yes we've been lucky because it hasn't rained yeah yes although that makes dust but but again that's you know that's one of my things and they've been on it you've seen the water trucks and the misses that they have down there even

when they were demolishing the bridge to keep the concrete dust down thank you Dan I have a quick question years ago that area on President Avenue went divorce Street just before there was massive flooding there we had that big flood storm are they changing the streets there's everything going to go changing everything is anything going to go directly into the Titan River or not we're going to have direct discharge

like Providence has it certain areas so so we have a number of current direct discharges that go through there and a number of those are being upgraded reconstructed um other CSO parts of what uh Paul furland's office has been handling over the last you all know how much money that cost and it runs through the whole city so anything that he was going to be mandated to do through this power for

improvements is part of this project but there will be some direct discharges right into the time moving from Rainbow just like there is now but we're adding additional detention areas whether they're underground storage chambers like the tunnels not tunnels but more linear uh things like that but yeah so all of the I see all the time they're trying to get different cut sheets and details drawn

for the different Culvert Replacements so yes all that's being done nice content C2 yeah two questions and a comment first question um is still the intention ultimately of putting a satellite station for the Train on the south side of the uh Braga Bridge so it's often gets thrown around um I honestly I don't know if that will happen again I'm that that's a that's an MBTA thing my guess is they would see what is the

demand for the for the current station and see how that works out but it is still on the table so I deal a lot with MBTA and all kinds of new laws that have been created about zoning around the stations and on every document I see there is still the potential for that that second station um secondly has there been any discussions surrounding potential pedestrian Bridges um along the line Memphis Council

Pereira you know not wanting to cross the street as well so the design the way that it was done now let's let's look at Route 18 through New Bedford for instance they had originally had a few pedestrian bridges that used to go through then when they came through and reconstructed Route 18 they got rid of a number of of the bridges that are there they did not include or add additional

cross streets this project will be improving and adding the additional cross streets so at this time there would be no room or really honestly need for a pedestrian bridge because the the distance between Street to Street you know Route 18 it's not that great it's not I mean it's a walk so essentially it'll compensate that's what you're saying it's compensated by by the at grade Crossings yes

then my only comment is I mean obviously there's more to I mean we've been going through years and years of construction demolition construction changing the roadways so I only want to say that I live in the extreme South end of the city I don't think any portion of the city has been more isolated it had more detours than people living in the South End especially if you're trying to get

to the going north and I have to say I've always been so impressed at how well thought out well planned and well-advised people have been so as much as we felt isolated it was you just could easily navigate yourself around and and I mean there were just no hiccups no I I've just been really impressed how somebody can actually sit and be have such a well thought all plan

so I just wanted to let you know that thank you for some of that yes we can I can't take a credit for a lot but again we work on this it's every day yeah we see that there's a traffic issue so when when the when the elevator portion first closed and we had those two or three lanes merging and trying to get back down to Duval Street we looked at what

happened the first day and we sat and we talked about it we made Lane changes we did different signage and so yes there have been many improvements along the way but again super responsive on Dot's end I drive through the property three times a day on purpose as part of my I draw on my way in I make the loop at lunch I make them group and on my way

home I go and see you know what's happening well just so you know it's noticed and appreciated right I appreciate that with that I appreciate it on that comment I just want to just one of them everything about the traffic patterns down there because there's a lot of maybe you should go down to Jefferson Street and fix a traffic pattern that we're having down there with the new schools because one

step at a time we've built a lot of new schools in the city and every time the dirty high school when I got reconstructed it's always a disaster the first few days and it would sweat out but I I agree you ought to be commended for the work you guys do and those traffic paths make life easier for everyone thank you just by the way a comment um maybe I've been around a long time right

but I remember as a child that being in the neighborhood it was a neighborhood where homes and well um it's just it's a Once in a Lifetime change that's happening maybe two lifetime maybe two generations so um I think it was a great resolution and I think Council Pereira made a great point in terms of maybe tabling this and in the future having a presentation to further clarify um

sure to clarify what exactly is going on so we can be more educated where our constituents ask us questions um but um I just got just got received that thought in my head in terms of when I was a little child and uh Brighton Street was thriving they had a movie theater at a Chinese restaurant they had and and um where Lindsay is it not Lindsay well devolved or whatever was Saint Max provision is

from there all the way to the Shoreline they were homes yeah it was an entire neighborhood so I used to go to a little Boatyard down there with my grandfather belongs it was elevated that's where I learned how to swim when I drive by I think it pops in my head in terms of uh how many homes were displaced and so um but all the way from the Bragg Bridge

all the way up to the new Memorial Bridge what would you know that it's I think it's going to be wonderful I really really do so I as Council Dion said I really congratulate everyone I pay attention online with the emails that we receive and uh it's just a Monumental once in a lifetime project and the the current mayor mayor Coogan be honest with you and we we're very very fortunate

that at this point in time we're getting that type of project down here and you just see the investment coming you see the the uh you know restaurants very excited you see you know the uh the housing um it's just um I can't wait I hope I'm still around I can't wait I just I want you all to remember that as you're going through the painful next couple of years

because it's gonna be it's a real it's a real show we're gonna try our best it's a real shot neon to do what we're doing but um and just if there's ever a question I mean obviously you can get to Dan I'll leave my card um but also we have a um an email on that website that that that mailbox is checked um hopefully every day but if not at

least two or three times a week it's the type of thing that elected officials dream for to happen yeah so yeah um I give you a lot of credit you you were such a great hire for this city are you a professionalism the way you you know present yourself it uh it's just you know I hope you stay around for a long time thank you thank you Mr President thank you got some Mr

President want to have a wrap-up question yeah I just think my colleague in seat number three was um misinformed or didn't hear correctly I didn't suggest that this be tabled I just said in the future if they wanted to bring a presentation here that you can talk to the council president he can schedule that at any time thank you we're just holding the discussion on this so it'll still be here and you can

schedule it again and what I what I can offer is we only get this invite Thursday afternoon so I'd like to thank valve for juggling her schedule I mean I'm here most of mostly comes to me so she juggle it to get here but if you would like to plan for you know a presentation or even the ones that we the public ones that we've already done um we can bring we can show it you can

ask questions as you're watching it or I think it's good to do that and the council president can put that in on the agenda at any time how long is it do you have the presentation video how long is that 10 minutes 10 minutes yeah right so we can do that in the future we can at another time we'll have you come down and do that that'd be that's fine give us more insight

um schedule Thursday that's the council agenda we put the agenda together and you know we don't do it two weeks ahead of time we do it four days ahead of time in the holiday weekend made it beefed up a little quicker so that's why with that um Debbie no further questions I want to thank you for coming down and answering all the questions I appreciate it it was very interesting thank you finance

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thank you thank you regular city councilman will come to order okay Clark will call the roll council is here Dion here Kilby Liberty here Pelletier Ferreira here proposal here Washington here president Camaro here will everyone in the council chamber please rise for a moment of Silent prayer

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pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit transmit this meeting to any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or perceived by those present and not deemed acknowledged and permissible the first item before you is a communication from the mayor and in

order accepting a gift of framed paintings sketches and miscellaneous items for the fall of the library should you accept the gift second you should accept the gift in the top the order has remained and seconded all in favor aye aye on the motion content seat six conservations can we just send uh Rosemary Campana uh thank you uh thank you sure I yield motion has a minute second all in favor

aye any opposed motion carries item two is the retirement Ford's notice of a public meeting regarding cost of living adjustments on file second communication pacifier hasn't made in second and all in favor aye aye any opposed motion carries of the traffic commission recommending amendments to the ordinances legislation yes second motion refer to committee and ordinance and legislation

has a meeting second at all in favor aye any opposed Nation counties committee on regulations at a meeting held May 23rd voted unanimously to recommend the accompanying order be adopted this is an auto repair shop license for Robert faraja 851 Globe Street all in favor aye any opposed motion carries the committee on regulations at a meeting held on May 23rd voted unanimously to recommend that the

accompanying order be adopted this is an auto repair shop application on behalf of Mario Laredo at 8 30 Globe Street motion to adopt second second motion to adopt has made and seconded all in favor aye any opposed ocean counties the committee on regulations at a meeting held on May 23rd voted diplomacy to recommend that the accompanying communication be accepted and placed on file this was a communication from an

anonymous resident regarding taxi companies

I have a concern about this letter from not just this letter but that other people um have had complaints about taxi service they're not getting taxi service at night Etc um because there's been issues and they can't get the drivers for at night and one of the companies that I spoke with one of the cab companies said it's very difficult with the Ubers and lifts that they have people will call Uber they'll

call Lyft they'll call a taxi whoever gets there first um leaves you know the the person gets in that vehicle and so they're having some difficulties with that and Ubers and Lyft they don't have to pay and get medallions and do any of that stuff like taxi cabs do so taxi cabs are really taking a hit and you know may be in such a financial straight that they'll just shut you know shut shop

which is not good is there a way to send this communication to committee on regulations or I don't know if it be ordinance to talk about the licenses of taxi cabs I know that town taxi has reached out to me with concern over how medallions and everything is distributed and then when we had that where we only gave out so money remember we had a vote a couple of years back I think the city

clerk remembers in Council pelicia I know is very involved in that I remember do you remember that um and then other people got medallions but they're not using them they're not doing anything with them I just think we have to look into this because the people are not getting the service I know I've spoken Mr robolot as well he's shed you know regulations what committee do you think would be resolution

I'll yields for Council liberties I would just suggest that um if you want to put in a different resolution this was in regulations and it's an anonymous letter and it's really just speaking about I think the people answering the phones are rude it's nothing about medallions or anything like that it's more like a human resources issue we can I can put in if the clerk can write up a

resolution we can do at the end of the meeting just that I think it needs to be looked into because there are concerns thank you with that I yield consequility do you have something you want to mention no thanks Mr President motion hasn't made and seconded to adopt all in favor any opposed motion carries many unordinances and legislation at a meeting held on May 23rd voted unanimously to recommend the

accompanying proposed ordinance accompanied by an emergency Preamble be passed through first reading second reading pass to be enrolled in past to be ordained these are handicapped parts motion for emergency Brianna motion so move second that's amazing seconded roll call ocean emergency preamp to adopt the emergency Preamble council's kadim yes Dion yes Kilby yes by Liberty yes Pelletier

a yes reposo yes Washington yes and president Camaro yes motion to adopt the order motion to adopt hasn't made and seconded all in favor all right aye any opposed motion carries the committee on ordinances and legislation at a meeting held on May 23rd voted unanimously to recommend the accompanying proposed ordinance be passed through first reading this is a miscellaneous traffic ordinance second fortune.com

any opposed motion carries the committee on ordinances and legislation at a meeting held on May 23rd voted unanimously to recommend the accompanying proposed ordinance be passed through first reading these are the schedule amendments for the zoning board of appeals and planning board motion to pass through the first reading second which is passed through first reading hasn't made and seconded all in favor

aye any opposed I'm sometimes the committee on ordinances and legislation at a meeting held on May 23rd voted to recommend that the accompany proposed ordinance be passed through first reading with councilor Dion opposed this is the proposed ordinance um cost of living adjustments for elected officials 11 not number 10.

10. No 10 salary and Grace motion uh Mr President motion to take number 11 out of order number 10.

they're not they were numbered wrong in my packet um we can do that we can go in order we're going over ten that's fine okay committee on ordinances and legislation at a meeting held on May 23rd voted unanimously to recommend the accompanying proposed ordinance be passed through first reading this is the salary increase for school committee members it would be the same amount as the city

city council which is sixteen thousand ninety one dollars and six cents motion to pass through first reading seconded roll call or agenda Council CA Council Washington yeah um I was initially can I speak on this sure I I so I was initially I had so many phone calls after that meeting on this from constituents that were so upset that we were going to double the salary I you know when you look at that I wish that's

I don't see that before us today because when you look at what was Brian sent it to us from school Committee Member Mr agyar of that they haven't had an increase since 2003 it does look pretty alarming but when you look at it from the public and I got many phone calls because you know I had gone back and forth on it that it is doubling their salary 100 increase I think a little bit over

um that it's just it's not sitting well with the public um and people are sitting much better with the cost of living increase and that just it's just people were very very upset about that and so um I hesitate to vote for that the public was very vocal about that to me since that last meeting so with that I yield council president um when Mr Aggie I was here who scored

me not here who have a great deal of respect for okay I made the comment that it's worthy of discussion and I think Council Pereira made the suggestion that let's get some input from the school committee in terms of what they would want to do forgive me if I'm wrong forgive me but I don't think one school committee member thinks this is the appropriate thing to do at this point in time I'm totally in favor

of a compromise here on the next item item 11 to restore the cost of living increase and like Council Washington just stated I too have been you know getting some calls and I don't you know to some individuals come in the history of this Council my my experience some individuals say I've gotten a lot of calls for me a lot of calls is four calls okay so um it it especially with Union

negotiations that may be ongoing that type of salary increase I struggled with it although it it there's an argument that it makes some sense but uh too much at one time so I I supported Mr aguir in terms of wanting to educate myself and and think about it whether your discussion I I don't think it's appropriate at this point in time so I will definitely be voting for the next item though for sure

I think Miss saggy has made his point he's accomplished his goal um and let's maybe do this gradually so I yield thank you thank you Mr President so I haven't received any calls even if I've received calls I think I have the same statements that I'm going to make today that I think when we start talking about equity and parity and doing the right thing uh to me right now it would be supporting item number 10.

um I don't care what any voter or resident would say about doubling the salary when you stop boiling down and start looking at the increases that individuals have received on the school department coaches themselves just a football coach a basketball coach has received ten thousand dollars their coach in a season right it's a defined time frame you've got a school committee who's year round I'd also maintain that

from a legislative body we've got limited responsibility compared to the to the school committee which is an executive branch form of government so they've got more responsibility they have hiring Authority they've got disciplinary Authority they've got negotiations this city council only does passes ordinances so law for the for the city and we make Appropriations that's it we

have no jurisdiction uh for an executive any executive powers so when you stop looking at the importance of what the school committee does I I don't think there's no reason why they shouldn't be compensated similar to the to the city council that's just my my standpoint the increase is coming from the school department budget we're not raising taxes for it it's part of their appropriation so there's no impact to

the voters even if it's a hundred percent nobody was kicking and screaming when they weren't receiving cost of living adjustments in the city council was receiving cost of living adjustments so you go back to 2003 we presented that at the at the subcommittee meeting in 2003 there was there was a stop on the cost of living and adjustment and they're 7 200 stipend continued from 2003 all the way until 2010.

that while the city council was receiving cost of living adjustments the school committee didn't receive cost of living adjustments so when we start talking about parity we should make them whole and when we talk about that that gets them to ten thousand dollars and then we're talking about a six thousand dollar increase you've got athletic coaches that are making more money and

getting bigger increases from the school committee so from my standpoint I think it's well worth it uh Mr agya came here as a as an as a resident even though he does serve on the school committee he was very clear that he was he was coming as a resident and he actually advocated um to have other members uh of the other boarding committees uh be looked at in terms of what they're they're getting paid um

you know I listen people can laugh about Mustang yeah coming here uh as a member versus a school Committee Member but that's the reality of the situation it's not a popular decision you've got an elected official who's saying that they're looking for stipends so um you know I think if you were to ask school committee members on a personal level whether whether they think they should

have that increase they would say yeah but politically because it's not politically expedient for them they're going to take a step back and then not they're not going to do it we don't know who's who's going to be on the school committee to me it makes sense it should be sixteen thousand dollars in conjunction with the city council I'm going to support that so without a yield thank you Council Council just I don't

understand when the councils were getting an increase in the school committee was not getting an increase 2003 to 2010 city council was getting cost of living adjustments is that right and the school committee was not I was I was on the school committee in in 2006 it was 7 200 since the same amount yeah and so you were there right 7 200. they never received the cost of living adjustment I don't think the mayor has

neither or the council that was 2010 it stopped two thousand so what I'm saying is from 2003 to 2010 the city council between that time period the city council received cost of living adjustments the school committee did not are you positive positive 100 positive can you look at that real quick yeah he's correct I said

just to give you people the history on this Council palliative father's resolution years ago 2010 and it was for all elected officials the school committee city council and mayor so why we would get a cost of living increase I don't think they did we received this course will increase I don't think the marriage is if there was something to do with the insurance increase for councils that

were on the insurance plan maybe we'll have to look into it the clerks will look into because she doesn't think it happened either um we'll look into it but as far as I can remember I I support that resolution Council palette they put in back then that froze all solid increases for all elected officials so I don't know why one body would get it and the other one would get wouldn't get it

all I'm saying is that it happens for a school command we'll have to find out yeah I could be one uh Pelletier um made that motion and the city council approved it I believe that freeze occurred in 2010.

13 years ago I could be wrong but I believe it was 2010 when that vote was taken to freeze the salary of the city council it wasn't just the city council no it's all elected officials yeah right so no but the point with the city council versus right so there was a time when we were getting something that we shouldn't be getting and they were getting something we were denying them anything it was if they

didn't get a course of an increase it's not because of the resolution the Cosmopolitan put in prior to that no the point of order was the point that I was trying to make was that during the time period of 2003 to up until before that resolution was made to stop all elected officials getting the cost of living adjustment the city council I mean the city council was getting the cost of

living adjustment with the mayor school committee was not seeing any adjustments in the cost of living adjustments their salary was flat at 7 200.

year over year that's because the school committee wouldn't vote for a salary increase for themselves there's a question why wouldn't they get it I can't speak to that it makes no sense why they wouldn't get it if everyone else is getting it it was across the limit we didn't vote on any salary increases for the councilors back then I was on the council listen and maybe maybe it's school committee members

didn't know there was a cost of living adjustment you know new members came on they don't they're not aware of it I'm not sure they were getting it not realizing it correct no there wasn't so I oh 7 200 right that's wrong that's that's how much I got and that they're still there but we'll have to research it came in handy at the time

cut the prayer will you take the point in a second oh are you can I speak sure I just wanted to clarify I didn't think I was able to vote on this because of my daughter being on the school committee however because this has only taken effect after the next election I can be part of the discussion and vote on this I just wanted to make that clear could you come up here thank you

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council president Kamara thank you madam vice president I just want to be clear on this um years ago when Council put this in place I voted for it because I agreed with it um back then the city wasn't in tough shape we um fighting 90 Cuts we were doing a lot of things back then and it turned out that when you run for public office I don't know anyone that does it for the money

whether it's six thousand dollars five thousand dollars three thousand dollars as a selectment in other towns that have equal responsibilities that school committee members and City councils combined three thousand dollar salaries these people get um and some elected officials get more whether you're uh a county commissioner but the fact of the matter is nobody does this for the

money if you do it for the money you're in the wrong field you're in the wrong position I don't know any of my colleagues that do it for the money I don't think they do I know I don't do it for the money and I think that if you meet once a month with all the responsibilities that you do and you feel that six thousand dollars doesn't compensate for that then you shouldn't

be a school Community member maybe you should run for something else in a different position or you should take a different job up if you're doing it for the money if an increase is going to make you stay in the school communication way if you don't get the money you're going to leave then I think you should just leave it if it's about the money same thing with the city

council is I don't think that I think I'm perfectly fine receiving what I received and I've been doing it since 2010 I'm not looking for an increase I think the pay that you get to do this job is adequate and it's efficient enough so I'm not going to be supporting this um and and I've spoken to the school community members and some people can say privately they'll say one thing public

doesn't say anything well they've told me in private that they don't want the money they don't approve of it and like I said when he first came before the council and referred this yeah he took it upon himself to make a decision which he has every right to do that he thinks and he believes he deserves more money and maybe he'll get it I don't know but I don't support it I'm not going to support it

um I think the position pays what it pays and when you hold public office there's a lot of things that you have to consider um how much time you're going to dedicate yourself the scrutiny you're going to get the criticism the time you have to put into work it's all there's a lot of different issues that you have to think about and live with yourself and to say you know we should double our

salary I don't agree with cost of living increase maybe I could agree with that I still wouldn't at this point in time because I think what we make right now is sufficient there are people that work in this building for a long long time that don't get that type of increase and there's people that work outside this building we're paying people 16.50 now do public work um Public Works people and we struggle

to give them a reads which is a sad state but with that being said I don't want to go on everyone's spoken everyone knows how everyone feels and let the votes take place but I know this Council Pelton was sitting here today he wouldn't support it I'm not going to support it and I think that if someone's not happy with the pay I've you know looked at different jobs and if I don't

like to pay I don't take them I think everyone here looks at other positions if you don't like the pay you don't take the job um it's plain and simple no one's forcing any of us to be City councilors North Washington anyone would be a school Community member so it's every two years you take the job for two years and then you decide whether you want to continue from there for what it pays and

the benefits you get from it and also the pain in suffering here from it as well it works both ways with that idea anyone else roll call there's a motion on the floor and there's a second uh Madam clerk called the roll B2 has through first reading and this is the salary ordinance council's Kadeem yes Dion yes Kilby no well Liberty yes Pelletier Pereira no reposo yes Washington no president Camaro no motion fails

committee on ordinances and legislation at a meeting held on May 23rd voted to recommend the accompanying proposed ordinance be passed through first reading with councilor Dion opposed this would be the cost of living adjustment motion to adopt second

for Passage through first reading Council skedeen no Dion no Kilby yes Liberty yes Pelletier no Washington no president Camaro no

item number 12 is a proposed ordinance this would be amending the section of ordinance that relates to Property Owners keeping the premises free of litter and weeds motion deferred audience second most referred committee and advanced legislation since May the second and all in favor aye any opposed motion carries item 13 is the joint poll locations for Mass Electric in Verizon at President Avenue and North Main

Street any opposed motion counties I believe police Chiefs report on licenses second motion to adaptation made and seconded all in favor aye any opposed ocean counties item 15 is an order revoking a permit for the storage of flammables the tanks have been removed at this location probably to adapt motion to adapt second motion to adapt as a main and seconded all in favor aye any opposed motion codes

item 16 is the order requesting that the city engineer prepare plans for the acceptance of Lisbon Street from Clay Street to a dentist board as we made for the second second second all in favor aye any opposed motion carries I have a number of claims motion afford a corporation council tax refer to Corporation Council has remaining seconded all in favor aye any opposed motion counties

item 18 is a letter from Sandra Garcia she's requesting that permits be required to remove trees on private property just ask questions exact place on file has been made and seconded all in favor any opposed motion carries 19 is a application for a structure on a public way on behalf of the day of Portugal Festival motion to approve second motion to adopt has it made and seconded motion to approval is made and

seconded all in favor aye any opposed motion carries and item 20 is also an application for a structure on a public way this would be on behalf of stepping stone motion to approve second motion to approve the remaining secondary all in favor aye any opposed ocean counties we haven't uh drain layer applications motion motion to approve the drain layers application has been made is there a second second second all in

favor aye any opposed we have minutes of the city council public hearings 22 through 24 together second motion to take 22 to 24 has a million seconds all in favor aye any opposed motion carries items 22-24 man plug could you read them please sure would be minutes of the public hearings held on May 16th the committee on Finance on May 16th in the regular meeting held on May 16.

motion to approve has been made in second and all in favor any imposed Clark's going to read the resolution that she drafted up on behalf of the reader whereas Lyft and Uber are affecting the taxi industry in the city and now therefore be a result of the committee on regulations meet to discuss what can be done with regard to taxi ordinances to help the companies and be it further

resolved that the taxi companies located in the city be invited to discuss this matter refer to the committee on regulations second motion for the community regulations has made the second all in favor aye any opposed motion counties motion to adjourn motion to adjourn has it made is seconded all in favor aye any opposed motion get out everybody good job thank you thank you

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