5.31.2023 City Council - Committee on Public Safety

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or any medium attendees are there for advice Etc Coatings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible um we call the role please for Dion here here okay so first item the item number one is um citizens input instead of zip code okay um to number two we have the minutes from our last meeting motion to approve

second all in favor aye absolutely next we have to lift an item for the table it's a discussion we're going to traffic noise and pull air pollution by Northeast alternatives so this is motion to lift from the table second all in favor all right so I'll just start that um it's been around for a while and that reason that reason is I would think that we wanted to uh make sure

things are keep it on the books make sure things are alleviated there so um I would like to call Miss Akins down please and the chief governor

so the the um the neighbors were invited that were here last time there was quite a few that were here so um this committee's hoping that since there's more competition that there's been a somewhat of believing you know a benefit or alleviation to the traffic problem there um Chief would you like to say stop uh the calls to that area have been significantly decreased I think you're

you're a Spotify with the addition of competition uh to that business uh the competition to that business uh certainly uh has decreased the number of calls going into that area okay and um regard to the mayor's office similar reduction in cause and concerns exit over the last 18 months because I know this is what 21 22 21 21 yes um so there's been a lot of change in the industry overall since the craziness of

those early days okay as are any neighbors here um that would um actually we're getting aggrieved by by this by any neighbors present because they were invited I'm just asking I guess not so I would entertain a motion I'm sorry I don't think unless you want to come down

yeah that's true state your name and address please Jared Gosling I'm here on behalf of Northeast Alternatives we've met here in the past um you guys aren't right we got down 30 since 2021 in foot traffic staying true to some of the conversations we had collectively here I'm still in contact with our neighbors our fence was actually tagged Monday night and when the neighbors sent me a

call this morning hey John can't get this fixed so Paul wash and brake cleaner and the pot leaf that was you know spray painted on one of our fences has gone as of this morning uh the only issue I think we're down to in the community surrounds Waste Management collection city council tried to support by sending formal letter to waste management asking that they abide by the ordinance

they've since still continue to give us some pushback and um it's happening you know it's happened about three times in the last six months I do get a complaint from the neighbor who suffers you know the that trash collection early morning 6 45 or so I can tell you we've done a little bit of due diligence regarding the matter we are contractually bound to waste management until October of this year

and we do intend to switch trash collection services in October we already have quotes in that lined up so that would be our permanent solution we've been assured by a new trash collection service that they'll be able to abide by the city ordinance and that's our hopes of finally solve what I would like to call the last open-ended matter that I think the community is still facing okay okay well I would

suggest you that's um that's on on you but it's not on the council you have a contract with your existing vendor exactly yeah so I mean I don't I don't think it's within a purview of the console too no just in case if any of those complaints from the community was still actively being voiced although at least to be channeled directly through me I just wanted to let everyone know here that we have a complaint we're

acting on it and give everyone a fair update contractually gone for October and we will not be renewing that contract Council Deal yeah I guess my only comment on that is with a violating ordinance the city has the ability to um either give them a I would say at the minimum of warning first and then a citation or some type of reprimand right an ordinance is an ordinance if they're violating our laws then we have the

ability to step in yeah I think Mr Gosling's hit it on the head which is they're going to him for us to see if they can rectify the matter I ran our database search from May 30th of 22 through May 30th of this year and we've only gotten three calls from and it's traffic or decisions it needs info type of uh information but nothing specific to traffic jams all the other issues that we've had nothing

mentioning any trash pickup or noise issue yeah also staying true to some of our conversations in the past we did discuss Northeast Alternatives expansion and how that is also going to contribute to reducing the customer foot traffic in that area and I I'm pleased to share that we've stood true to that we are looking to open our second retail location in Seekonk Massachusetts approximately 45 days from now uh so

that's also going to contribute to our patrons being spread throughout different locations and reducing foot traffic there so that is also still coming to fruition and it's in our very near future building's done buttoned up and just awaiting CCC uh final licensure any other questions no I think the only other thing I would make a motion for to for a leave to withdraw saying that um things have gone

well for the last two years and you've you know as you said you've held true to your promises and it seems to be going smoothly so I would make that motion thank you motion made leave to withdraw all in favor aye aye support it thank you sir thank you thank you okay number two number four resolution convene with director of traffic and police chief to discuss large commercial vehicles traveling Wilson Road

this was hold for discussion as well so I believe be the emotional no it wasn't on the table so so we'll just uh have Miss um traffic I'll have Laura come down and um and the Chiefs here if you'd like to say set for now if not I hope you stay at the meeting okay thank you so this is a resolution I Believe by Council Pereira um so it's been on the books since 2021

of March of 2021 and um just like an update on this let's see uh to be honest there's nothing that's come across my table uh once again we did the research we uh in the complete uh Pantheon of uh the entire Wilson Road area we only have 25 calls to that area and uh throughout the year I think we just had an accident on the 24th with a tractor trailer hitting a light post that accident

report has not been completed but we'll receive the city ordinance violation would anyone from the public like to speak come on down please

oh awesome okay correction it was Chris peckham's uh resolution I was one of my one since I was working at Cajon and I saw the tractor trailers up and down the street now I'm back at work but I still see the track to trailer trucks and the majority of them are going to Ice Cube Storage raw seafood and now um Liberty Utilities is up and down with the dump trucks and backhoes day and night

there were two traffic polls within the last three weeks that were knocked down by this and the state had to replace I don't know if you got I know you got one call but there was two we left the state police took the other one two in the last year in the last three weeks they take them down and they run up to um Industrial Park Steve replaces them yeah so I mean what

we'll do is we'll we'll Monitor and uh make sure that I get a message out to Mr Hassel of the industrial park that we'll be monitoring giving out City audits violations for any trucks coming that way yeah I know there's a sign on Sykes road to go towards Wilson Road the trucks are still coming when the council called me about this meeting I said to up on the person on the phone

I said there's a yellow truck going right down the street and doing about 40 miles an hour and what's your location right in the corner Wilson Road in route 24.

okay right on the corner I I mean I still receive calls um I'm not saying I receive as many as I used to in the past but the traffic department still gets it we have met uh with Carl Hessler and he has reached out to all the companies with a letter letting them know to use 24 Innovation the state put a huge sign on 24 heading south to use an Envision win

that sign's still up we put signs throughout um Commerce Sykes directions to get back onto Innovation Way so those are still up um we did have a camera at the intersection of Wilson Road and um Highland Avenue where it took pictures um oi recorded all the a lot of them too from well I don't even know if it's Allied Waste now but a lot of the trash trucks tend to use that Wilson Road and

they really should be using Airport Road so I know they've reached out to them as well yeah so yeah so they tend to I just think that it's just a straight road so but um the signs are all up we do the best that we can so I know someone just requested a solar powered stop sign at Sykes and Wilson Road so we'll be putting that up in a couple of days as

well there is another person on the lower end of Wilson Road I don't remember her last name Jane she's like she right from North Main Street four or five houses up on the left hand side she's been claiming I mean complaining for years because if you're going up Wilson Road there's a bunch of potholes and as the trucks are going up Wilson Road it's shaking her house and um when they're going up uh North

Main excuse me up Wilson Road and they get that green light they're doing 40 50 miles an hour plowing through they don't stop I'm surprised no one's really that hurt well it means a lot to just committee that you hear so you probably had a busy day yeah um so I don't see it as much now because I'm at work I'm not working from home but when I was during the pandemic it

was it was bad it was baffled yeah it slowed down a little bit but they're still using it yeah Washington the question is anyone cited has anyone been cited any of the trucks been cited like who gets cited so it's like the trucking companies or the the truck driver gets cited has anyone been cited since 2001 well I don't know since 2001 I know in the last year only one only

one has been excited but I mean I think it's clear that uh every time we're not stable it seems like it's an enforcement is true and uh we'll take appropriate steps um maybe the city administrator can come back because if easy disposal is one of the um people causing the issue I believe he possibly could have a conversation with them uh seeing the seeing the contractors ends around 2 30. see and the contract

is the contract is with the city um

she isn't only nice she's efficient too she was amazing thank you so this neighbor on Wilson Road was telling us that one of the um problems on Wilson Road is easy disposal using Wilson Road and they shouldn't be so I thought we would invite you seeing you have might have a direct line and be able to speak with them and nip that in the bud that would be greatly appreciated by everyone

I think what I will probably do to start just from a chain of command standpoint is talk to Charlie Daniels and Joe Kennedy in our solid waste and Order enforcement they have a good relationship with those people know them well and there's some folks that we work with closely routinely that could make uh make sure that that doesn't happen and then every news escalation I'll jump in and I would also think I mean

obviously in this part of the country we can't avoid potholes it is what it is but I'm sure these heavy Vehicles driving up and down Wilson Road also uh exasperate that situation and and so they're also damaging our roads as well which is another issue and a problem with that yield so my suggestion would be to table this if it seems like it's still an issue and will we visit it thank you and um you

have our phone numbers if you need to call us yep you have our email addresses all online so uh in your name is again Colleen Cooper okay okay sir just might ask when you have these issues and are you have you been calling the police department okay all right I started with performance complaints and that's I I've done the research and I know we've only got 25 calls there and there's only one that

has to do with traffic so okay I would appreciate it though if you do have these issues please call us because that's how we're going to monitor you know what the issues are and what time that we have decision we'll take care of it sure thank you Miss Cooper okay so motion the table second motion to table made in second all in favor all right so voted thank you thank you all right

I love your color always love your colors so item number five um resolution the discussion regarding ways to improve resident safety regarding speeding in the North End East oh sorry Northeastern Avenue and Bedford Street area motion I live from the table motion left from table made all in favor all right um I think I would ask mistakens to come back down sorry sir and um I know Mr Corey is here I'd ask him to

come down if he would like uh Miss Mello yeah

sure yes well I've said we've sat here before um here I tried it down the rims there's another one here I mean yeah okay

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so um I look I look at this one as uh very significant when you have property owners that are purchasing their own yard signs excuse me yes I will finance um so I just want to start by saying that I think it's significant had numerous conversations with the mayor and Miss Akins represents the mayor tonight so um why don't you smell when you say you name an address Natalie mellow 510

Northeastern Avenue Mr Corey Thomas Corey 477 Sherman Street okay um Bonnie why do you begin now all right so um I guess we have not probably the same issues as Wilson Road people have that long way and people just fly we our neighbors were our only God last week and there was people actually you could see him 68 57 Tom officer Tom Farris has done an amazing job he's been really

good with us he's educated us you know people don't want to get they don't want to stop at 45 47 you'd like we all are guilty of that we just want all we asked is for signage signage signage because it may it has happened it has helped the signs that we did put up has made a big difference what signs you talking about I know you sent me one email

all right so so and then when I when I seen not the lighted signs no oh the other one you were talking about or what that woman um oh it's residential area Missy heavy uh wherever it's I wrote it here somewhere uh okay now I'm blind because I'm nervous um I put it here somewhere um residential area what was it Laura what's the name residential areas heavy heavy residential area

okay so I seen that at the top of Meridian Street when we go to breakfast after Mass and I'm like oh my God what a great idea so I guess I called Laura actually I talked to Linda and I talked to Laura so we're in may now so we finally got the signs that went up today and they put them up so when I seen that I said it's perfect not just for our area other

areas I know New Boston Rose get gets crazy there's other areas that really crazy like rules all those areas there that is a big help and then Mr Toro part thing he felt two years now he's been asking for help and then some people Neighbors in the in in that area feel intimidated they feel like they're people going to retaliate against them so they're afraid to come and talk I don't want that I don't want anybody

older than me feeling that fear because their business is going to be interrupted by whoever I don't want that I don't if I know that that bothers me I've worked with Elders for all most of my life and I didn't want to see the important of feeling that way Dave my husband we've had at least two accidents since I've been there next to New Boston Road which I'm surprised Council

um Andrew I can't think of his name proposal suppose that hasn't said anything because it's right out front of his house and then we had another act another accident somebody lost control uh and went into 720 North Eastern Avenue into their backyard from the other side going north crossed over to their property um now what if somebody had a cookout that was out there and those kids could

have gotten killed there's other people that owns at least three properties in that area that they're afraid when their grandkids go out and play in the yard you know what I'm saying it's not right and then um we back in January of 2022 at three o'clock in the morning our alarms were going off and I'm like oh my God I wake up to oh you're not deep I wake up day and I said

Dave the alarm the alarms are going off here you kind of like throw some human in there you know the alarms are going off is somebody coming in so he gets up goes out I'm like okay yeah it's no problem let's go let's go check so he went and checked we looked out the window there was he went outside and there was I looked as it's outside that car flipped always a car flipped over I

send pictures to people um so he went out there he says well thank God I just renewed my CPR we went out there see what he could do everything was fine that the police officers came they're there everything was handled blah blah blah whatever reason it was that I don't know what happened there then you've got the yellow buses you get the school buses out of control you get the gas delivery

bus uh drugs once in a while I actually called uh Stephanie to find out if they even can drive on Northeastern Avenue but I guess they can so they're they're flying Laura six right unfortunately right so now yeah so now they're flying then you've got some landscape is and you got the dirt bikes which is another hole to do you know and that's I mean it's all even it's so unsafe it's not people don't

want them to do stuff it's unsafe for everybody and so on um you know and I feel bad for some people that are afraid to come and talk to the mayor or to Laura or to the counselors It's not fair um now and all we want is follow-ups on it it's an easy fix I put down Tom Farris he's been a great help you know he said you know now you know uh this

one you know that I mean we've gotten all the help we can from you guys we really have uh it all comes down I think to signage I know Mr Toro there he's probably saying his name wrong um he came up with something because he's traveled all over the world he says maybe not just you know maybe some higher signs I don't know I'm just saying this maybe some higher signs

where it's up in people's faces can bring a I don't know maybe somebody can come up with an idea I don't know again it's not just Northeastern Avenue we just live there we see it we live it so um I think that's all I can think about that's all I think I have we just we just want signage a couple more 40 signs and Away coming from Northeastern Avenue because there's two but this between between um

I get the address between um well the rotary and uh between Buffalo Street intersection and New Boston Road that's a drag strip right okay Mr Carter so I'd like to preface my comments by uh by praising uh the chief and the mayor because so we've we've made these points of view well known in the past and they've been very attentive and a lot of movement has already begun to happen on behalf of the the police

department and the mayor's response so it's it's a it's a well-known issue you know I've been there for 45 years I've seen more than two accidents um the wall at the corner of locust and Eastern Avenue is was put up by my late father-in-law because a lady did lose control on the Avenue and actually ran their backyard and now they had a fence at that time and he declared he said

this will never happen to my property again and then he put a brick wall up uh so that that sort of like set the table but there's been some terrible I mean I'm sure the city has data on the terrible accidents that have ensued uh since that time uh on Northeastern Avenue because it's such a drag strip there's there's no lights or stop signs to deter motorists from their high speed

now there's been a lot of motions there's a speed detector there now Gathering data and I think that could be very very helpful um the signage here at least it'll make maybe some people think twice however my biggest complaint is in the wee hours if we're sitting especially in the summertime sitting in the backyard you know 10 o'clock at night 11 o'clock at night midnight there's that stray

vehicle it's not a whole traffic full of vehicles it's just that stray vehicle and they open up and it's it absolutely amazing that they're not dead from some of the speed zones I hear going on on that Avenue it's absolutely seriously seriously dangerous some of the motorcycles or the motorbikes uh you know they rev really quickly and loudly and and they try to like go as fast as

they can from from Locust to New Boston Road and that could be like midnight one in the morning I'm in bed sometimes but I sleep with the window open and I can hear it luckily I don't get up I just fall back asleep again but but it's just a note as to even the sporadic speeding is extremely dangerous on that stretch of roadway and I know it's Route Six it's a state roadway we're a little bit

limited I guess with what we can do but I like the idea of signage I think signage is sort of like it's visible it's there it's in your face well to that point I um over the last month or so I've talked to America and maybe my city Ministry in the library and I got an update this weekend during the Memorial Day ceremonies and uh he said they're on order they voted so maybe

mistaken to you on a collaborate I don't really have much more to say other than that that's that's kind of where we are I know we talked about this a few months ago you know more of the the speed uh information gathering kiosks and that sort of thing so uh in terms of all the measures that we can put into place statically so um the flashing signs signs that sort of

thing that's either in process or or has happened um uh but um you know I think we're always open to whatever needs to be done in order to get this problem under control because it's crazy I mean everyone you talk to knows that it's absolutely crazy and just given the way that especially Northeastern Avenue since there's not a logical place for another stoplight except for maybe just

before the rotary but I think there's reasons not to do that um but it's it's something we need to continue working on but I think what we want to do is at least see how the next measures work out if it has any measurable reduction and then continue working from there once we have a sense of that do you have an idea how many signs hard to so how many been ordered I

don't know what are we talking about so well there's the there's the flashing ones that we ordered with Arbor money that that's that's you and then there's also I think you would put some some other lit up signs in your uh Capital Improvement budget right that's from Chris so Chris Hathaway has put up the it doesn't um monitor the speed but as soon as you're going over 40 it will blink that

you're going over 40. he is going to put up the other one um sometime next week so you've got two on each side maybe we can put more of those and I can speak to Chris about that in a way I would suggest to put that one between the house before 7 20 there's a house there in that section well unfortunately I did put one up but I was asked to move it

that was that 40. no that was right at the beginning Christy said he spoke to someone where he knows he's going to put it yeah so that's for traffic that are heading south now the other thing I can do uh it won't go on Northeastern Avenue but all the side streets that have stop signs we can put the red solar flashing stop signs which will alert people as they're getting to the intersection to be a

little bit more careful with the traffic that's that's something that we can do if you feel it's going to help us well we'll put up some more 40 mile per hour signs that sounds good yep we'll put some more nice question sure do you feel that it's it's sort of the drag strip aspect of it that people on the straightaway or is it people entering onto Eastern Avenue from side streets most of the time it's heading

north okay because they can they just can see that there's nobody in front of them so they open up it's less so heading south but it still occurs it still happens especially at night when there's much less traffic on the road with the signs that are there right now did either of you perceive any change when they were originally put up yes like was there an initial effect of that yes I think there's been some

improvement I really do I'm very grateful to the police for working with us and hearing us in the city I'm extremely grateful for that yes man just to that point so we did have a speed trailer in the northbound lane and obviously the the purpose of that was hoping to bring the compliance to a higher number obviously in the 85 area and we're right there right now we're at the 85 percent

compliance area that sounds great but at the same point uh just in the last 32 days uh we had 196 000 motorists go by that spot that's 196 946 30 days 32 days 85 to 85 traveled under 85 traveled under 45 miles an hour so we still have about 770 uh motorists uh that are traveling at a high rate of speed so that's an issue for us that you know obviously we have to be a little

bit more Vigilant but we also know that the bulk of that 770 number is between five and six a.m in the morning um but that's the least intermittent issues at night so it tends to be when traffic is a little bit lighter um so we still have some issues there and you know we'd like to see that percentage of compliance a little bit better no another Speed trailer was put up as

well that's correct we just yep that's correct we just put a new Speed trailer uh in the southbound lane and I have to say chief that one is great because we picked up on it it's got the blue lights on it and those signs that you ordered that you put on the polls that would be perfect on those signs because it brings attention because a lot like the one that is across the street from the Assad's

the Sun hits it so you can't see so it's kind of in a bath section you know I'm just telling you that I could check what's in the softball Lane right now yes that's the only one right now Chris would be the one because he ordered those because I've been trying to speak we'll talk about correctly no no no no no no no no no those um it's the new signs that um Chris has that um

no but the one solar powered as well the speed one the trailer there I mean I felt guilty because now there's one up ahead and there's one down below I don't want to take we don't want to take any speed trailers from anyone else I mean one is good it's working but once those speed trailers are gone I can guarantee you Mr can tell you he sees it himself you

know my heart goes out to him because he's been asking for help for a long time and some of the neighbors were saying they've been around for 51 years and no one's ever listened to them broke my heart because it shouldn't be that way so my question is is uh given the fact that it's Route Six uh how much can we exert control uh maybe I'll state legislators to maybe

weigh in and try to work with us towards some type of an idea yeah I know in the past when we've called down a Department of Transportation I think a sector seven District Five karafly always been really uh with Wilson Road so maybe that's someone you know someone you could reach out to yeah and she's on top of things yeah oh yeah so she's very receptive yeah but we're not just gonna jump from here over you

know the mayor said Lord we said yeah I was just asking a question just trying to figure out like like what's it look like you know beyond Fall River okay like Mr Dino I'm I'm I know I'm saying his name from Tino yes um like you said he's traveled all over the world as others that we've spoke to maybe something above some kind of Flash and light one in them I don't know if

there's something that people come up with if there's something that can be done maybe that would help so we'll set up a lemonade stand five cents a glass no it's five dollars now you haven't seen the commercial so you know so um we've we've seen ourselves looking at the speed Trail down the street from us we've seen ourselves 68 70 58 57 you know and like I I told this to officer Tom Farris some

of our new cars uh sometimes I look down at my speed how much I'm going like oh my God you go fast some of these new cars that you team you seem you know kind of you don't feel the speed you don't so okay well um I also want to Echo your comments I I do give me a Coogan a lot of credit on this because he's been very responsive responsive to my telephone

calls when I call them it's amazing I don't know how he does it yeah 90 98 of the time he picks up the phone we've talked too so yeah so um he's well aware of it signs around order that was your request well my suggestions unless counselors want to say anything we keep this in the committee and revisit it uh in during the summer that's fine I want to thank the committee and I want to

thank Laura and I want to thank the chief for their responsiveness and their reception thank you very much thank you Mr you always approach things both you in a very positive way I said you both always approach things in a very positive manner yeah and I want to thank you Laura for calling me and keeping me updated I appreciate that um just give because I have to order the speed limit 40 because we don't keep

like a whole bunch so we'll be we'll be ordering and you know we'll position them so between do you want to go from between Bedford to Locust and then Locust to New Boston Road or just from New Boston Road to Locust I think I think that both you know there's a lot of violators on both ends but mostly on the Locust to New Boston Road in because that's a clean visual Street that's

heading north right yeah heading north is is the most dangerous aspect and then the stop sign Ones Will Wait um yeah well yeah it's really not so we'll wait we just put the signs up today I got calls yeah well he called they wouldn't pick it up so they said we'll just put it up so just fine somebody counted five no there's six there's six side yeah so let's see with that between more 40

um thank you very much thank you talk to you soon visited this summer for sure appreciate it very much thank you thank you thank you again everybody that I would make a motion to table oh sure the table is made a second all in favor okay so finally we have a resolution that was Linda first or Lucian thank you Michelle and uh it speaks to Executive session so we're gonna have Mr how weak please come down

Mr Howard attorney how are you I'm sorry and the reason I asked you down is to uh is this a Corporation Council to recite the purpose of why we're going to Executive session and um yep so I think for yeah first you're going to please recite the uh the reasoning well before going into that um I review the matter I viewed the notice and I don't believe the notice is sufficient as written to give the public

adequate notice of exactly why you're going into executive session um in short to go into executive session um you indicated in the notice one of the exceptions of the open meeting law to go into executive session which is to discuss deployment of security Personnel or device devices and or strategies with respect there too which is a valid reason to go into executive session that is just simply

iterating the law and then now you have to say with specific detail what it is that you wanted to discuss so the public knows what the purpose of the executive session is you have to convene an executive session with Corporation Council and the police chief to establish a plan for motorized street bike safety measures you may read that knowing the history of what you're talking about

one may read that and look at establish a plan for motorized street bike safety measures as simply measures to improve the safety of those riding a motorbike okay we're going to ensure that they have helmets you know safety gear security lights I mean headlights so I believe if you go into executive session the notice itself is inadequate even though you may go into executive session and discuss those strategies

which you're intending to discuss um that component might be okay but the fact that the notice is deficient would be technically a violation of the open meeting law and I would recommend for this juncture not going into executive session all you would have to do is just re notice um with verbiage that I can assist the clerk with establishing um if that's your intent to go in the future

I know you have a question but why wasn't this done before I have no idea Elena was specific we scheduled this meeting last week and what we're going to discuss is very specific so that language should have been done already because this is an important issue this one but I I respect you and I um obviously and um but um this discussion has to be made soon in later and um

so the Alternatives and not to go an executive session and have a discussion that's and it's an alternative you discuss publicly those matters that can be discussed openly with the resolution it says executive session so you listen uh you technically could still go into executive session with the risk that notice was not sufficient and you would defend it and and of course you would argue that well

you already said it's not so yeah there goes the challenge not defending us deja vu yes so if if that were more specific to Public Safety versus safety of the bikes it still wouldn't matter no no I mean you're here for a purpose as I understand it because individuals writing these ATVs or straight bikes uh motorized vehicles are to a degree um violating the laws without consequence going through stop signs

going through street lights doing wheelies doing a lot of illegal activity and I believe your goal is to figure out how to curb cure defend that issue so that's what should really be in the notice that specifies exactly what we're talking about and what your goal is so the best thing to do at this point would be to table it get the correct verbiage give the correct notice that would be your recommendation it would be

okay I want to apologize to the public a little bit if people are watching this meeting because this is a significant significant issue police officers was struck and like I said the last meeting when sometimes electives are set up again a ton of calls ton of calls maybe I get one or two but I've been getting a lot of calls on this a lot of calls so it's my job to uh to have a meeting sooner

and later and I will have it right after the budget hearing if I iterated the um or stated the the issue correctly I will then work with the clerk to make sure that it's properly addressed in the next very good okay so there's a motion to the motion to table second I want you to table made a second all in favor hi and that uh that's it for the meeting

goes into the judge I hope we'll get a lot accomplished here motion to adjourn made it second foreign