6.7.2023 Park Board

I call this regular meeting of the Park Board of commissioner's agenda and order of business Wednesday June 7 2023 at city council uh hearing room beginning at five 39 PM Government Center Fall River being recorded by FRG TV Pursuit and City open meet in law any person may make an audio or video recording of This meet a public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised

that such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible blue call of Commissioners here there's CJ McDonald Amber Burns Victor Faris Alan Rigo Joseph de Silva I want to welcome our new commissioner B.J McDonald welcome welcome thank you uh at this time I'm going to have a commissioner Ferris lead us uh in the

pledges allegiance to family please rise I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all amen all right acceptance of minutes from the rental Board of meeting uh hell on 5 3 23. I make a motion to accept Commissioners made their motion seconded by commissioner Ferris all in favor say aye

citizen input we have a citizen input anybody signed up over there okay all right item a lift from the table a request from Wendy robotile regarding the request to paint s of diversity artwork at Kennedy Park Grafton Avenue from motion to I make a motion to live second commissioner Burns made that motion second by commissioner Rigo all in favor say aye aye Okay so Miss Smith you wanna just talk about I passed

and we'll have it on the next but um we spoke to um after the last meeting because there were items we were going to check in regard to having paintings on the sidewalk different colors because there are markings that indicate different titles like big safe or whatever so um you have suggested an alternative location you have in your possession a new um item that she said in lieu of that she

would distribute backpacks called art lessons in a bag um the particulars are not on the agenda but she wanted to get this information to the board so I'll be completely honest with you I don't know that she can just switch this out and maybe the open moving War situation because it is a different location and whatever but the board can do this um and if anyone has any concern um they can voice it now

rather than just

um but she is looking to do this on August 12th so this is six weeks but I would hope that if anyone had any injections let her know in advance so she has to make any changes to that she could so I guess at this point I would just advise them going to accept for review and to be placed on next meetings agenda for an official polls any questions from commissioners

so do you want to just table this until uh the July meeting um I I have one question so the is she just handing out the bags like from the time that she's specified or is there going to be like an actual event where there's like food and no I think she just wants to have a couple of tables and what she had explained in an email um maybe CD wreck a couple of different

non-profits but again she can bring more detail yeah and I can inform her that she will be able to get an answer and into July reading but again those are questions that she would at least know um we would look at you so so if you wanted she's not having my best of my knowledge no food but I can ask those questions um yeah so I make a motion to accept and

then also request full detail of the event for the July meeting second now commissioned words made that motion seconded by extension nefarious all in favor say aye Item B request regarding the schedule dedication ceremony that was discussed at the time of the proposed submittal for the renovations of the Portuguese American monument at Columbia and Broadway they are requesting the date of

June 8 which is tomorrow for the ceremony

one of the committee people here uh commissioner farius and he's uh just invited the rest of the board anybody whoever wants to attend this what time is it six o'clock to six o'clock tomorrow night tomorrow so uh do I have a motion to accept this and make a motion uh second Commission of burns made the motion seconded by commissioner Regal all in favor say aye aye item C request from Ken pachigo to the

use of Ruggles Park Locust Street for Middle School Field Day on June 7th 8 A.M to 3 P.M with a rain date of June 13th 14th oh 13 is it 13th or 14th this is the 13th all right the email says 14.

for today well it didn't rain today so did they go yeah

all right commissioner Rio what was that I said they have to get to us before the date so let's make that a rule well the issue is I think you're right that but they probably don't decide that the school's going to happen so whatever and it might not coincide with our meeting why I particularly ask them to let us know is not so much to be used in the park but to make sure that it's cut

and cleaned and it's more an awareness thing than it is that would be best I agree too but I don't want to take away from something for kids either um so yeah I just I think we should just confirm that whether they win today or not because then if they didn't then figure out but if I had a major I'd wage 99.99 they went today okay so do I have a motion to not a betting person

do I motion to approve this much motion to approve commissioner Rigo second commissioner Ferry second in all in favor say aye item D request from Andre Martins of resendi Saka Academy the use of Brooklyn Park Front Street to conduct soccer clinics on Tuesdays and Thursdays for three weeks in August uh commissioner McDonald has to confuse himself in this boat um do we have times and does it go um

does it have any other conflicts with anything else that's scheduled there oh you don't have times the pocket Bill what was that fun we don't have the time is anybody here to speak well again this is August so if the board has questions maybe you want to have the person come in because it seems like yeah you have a lot of questions basically you know the charges why they're not using school department

so that might be a little bit more that they could explain to us rather than you know through an email I mean if they do it through an email on the board is satisfied with the information they submit and they have enough information to vote then that's one thing and if you want them to attend um that's another I can tell you that Tuesdays and Thursdays at night I'm taking my guess

would be that they want to do this during the day but the question is you know how does the charging work as far as them charging individuals because it says something about school discounts yeah so the board might want to get the particulars on that but because how would that work would they would we have to we wouldn't charge them to use it right well

the mission to get into a park so is this Mr clarification would be is this somewhat an admission because not everyone would be able to participate would be only the people that are signed up that's fine so that um I mean gotcha that would be something that you know we might want to get a little more clarification now maybe and with something like this if it's going to be for

three weeks are they paying 125 each day that's not up to me that's up to this point the motion it was your table was for more information okay uh commissioner Rigo made that motion do I have a second to table it to the next meeting second commissioner Riga made that motion seconded by commissioner Burns all in favor say aye aye um sorry can we go back I'm so sorry did

he fill out a form online for this like requests are either fill out a form or send a detailed email gotcha okay yeah just the board is coming up that I wouldn't have been able to anticipate just for the record uh we did it I vote but just want to make the clarification it was just commissioner Burns Commission of the silver commissioner Ferris and commissioner Regal that voted to table commissioner McDonald's

refused himself for this vote item e approval for uh for the fitness core area at Brooklyn Park Front Street review this uh last month myself commissioner farius and uh commissioner Rigo and we're just making it uh hope that we uh approve that artwork in the fitness club option two and um I guess what it was uh when I talked to Elena before she left we had said about uh you guys had said about the different

color that you like the green and everything what happens is uh Blue Cross is the one that pitches this is going to be this this thing like this and then these are going to be them colors are all it's going to be all the colors oh they're all spaced out so it's the whole pattern wait so which option uh we chose the sneakers um those are shoes almost good all right

y'all pick some shoes well they chose that because of the fitness ball and because of the track how cool that is because the trail was there y'all would have picked one if I would have been here can I get a motion in a second for that

all right shoes of the change to two dates to the mayor's summer in the pop schedule that was previously approved so I believe he's just changing two packs around the dates Maple wouldn't follow the colors just swapping swapping the dates

so do we have a motion to accept this motion to accept and make that change uh commissioner Burns made the motion second by commissioner Regal save and say hi hi

ing requests from Rachel goldsby for the use of Kennedy Park Rockford Avenue on Saturday Saturdays from 7 A.M to noon to once again conduct the farmers market from June 17th to November 25th 2023. motion to approve session of burns made that motion second by commissioner legal all in favor say aye aye

I'm trying to speed this up for your birthday Ellen happy birthday wait a mage request uh I'm Excuse the approval of bench to be placed at Kennedy Park South Main Street in memory of commissioner Jeffrey Sylvia second that Mr Regal made that motion second by commissioner Farris all in favor say aye aye we have not set up a date yet

a concrete base myself and uh Nancy and uh Chris perrano went out because they were planting trees in the area so it's at the top of Kennedy Park have hot Drive facing the baseball fields only that way there's two new trees on each side of it and it will be there it's a nice thing that Nancy came up with wording uh that he will always be because he was an Empire coach

everything director and he'll always be overlooking all the fields so but it was a suggestion in the field but every time you put it behind the field the concession stand was in the way the visitors you know stands were in the way you know there's a U-Haul thing and you know we even thought of putting it directly behind one of the backstops where an Umpire would stand like behind the plate but a handicap ramp for the

street is right again once once we do have the dedication we'll let all Commissioners also that way we all can be in attendance with the family and everything all right do everyone well we have the approval already okay item l m c i i excuse me but it was a lot of changing uh item I letter of thanks from the forever Street tree planting program for the consideration of conditions of the park

for the Earth Day event they conducted in April in conjunction with the city that was at Kennedy Park it was a nice little thank you card that they said that they were impressed obviously in up kept Kennedy pot was I make a motion we uh place this off file all right Nancy just uh you can just let them know we said thank you item J requests from the Christ Apostle Church

for the event at Lafayette Park on June 24th for a children's community outreach event 10 a.m to 6 p.m already have a different city event on that date which we never heard back from that one this gentleman is here oh he's willing to change no no I know that but it was saying there was another the 24th yeah so we're not three on the 24th that it requested the 24th already

has been approved for the Corky broker who busy day okay so this second gentleman he's really changed his date I reached out to the other two people who submitted for the 24th this gentleman is willing to change his date so they can still have his function and the item K person I never heard back so I don't know whether they just decided they're not going to have it but I sent an email and

I haven't heard back and I don't prefer to communicate in writing so that we have that communication that we did reach out so yep um I this gentleman I believe um stated that I think it was it was July July 8th if you're willing to change it to I do not believe at this point I'll have to check again because we have a lot of events that there's a July 8th

date but if the board chooses to approve this event and there is something on July 8th I guess you can approve it with the fact that he just worked with the park Department to try to come up with another danger that would not be kid is is there an issue with having the one at Lafayette and Corky like is or is it just be besides like police presence

yep Police Department had some Cuts with the auxiliary got yourself and it actually started was you remember my event the event that we no no I'm talking about the event that we had to cancel that clock you wrote last minute yeah because there's not enough policemen I was gonna say I know there was an issue when with um the boxing and then on the same day as mine yeah especially it's something else somewhere else how

much we can do about that but it's too hard right like right now we would have three pack events another community event in that day then it just gets a little bit okay and not only that you're gonna end up falling into every weekend as a feast at one of the churches so that's going to be police going to be down there so make a motion to improve it with the new change hold on one second

the gentleman is here do we want to have fun no I feel like he's I was going to say I feel like we he hasn't he had this before gotcha

you've never had it you know yeah no I thought it was the same one that had the church organization I had at Lafayette last year is there someone here for this event yes you can come up and address uh address this please just speak your name in uh state your name and address for the record please okay include in the title yeah so I apologize to my voice I'm just

driving down all the way from New York to attend days we went on vacation my name is Dr olubango I'm an evangelist in the church and I'm actually also a faculty at UMass Dartmouth in the chemistry department and we have a district superintendents for the for the church in New England we have eight churches uh we have about uh we have some in Massachusetts we have three in Rhode Island we have one in New Hampshire

but we here belong to a district called Brockton District so Brockton District consists of two charges one is it I'm sorry yeah yeah one is in uh Broughton it's a Overcomer Center uh the Christ Apostolic church is very broad so each division of the church has their own name aside from Christ Apostolic church we have the not America Christ Apostolic Church which comprises a lot of judges in Canada U.S and South

America but here we have author of Grace as our church under Christ Apostolic church and the one in Brockton is of a comma Center so we we form a district we've been doing this event in Brockton for many years and the event is about Outreach to the children so basically what we do is we organize fun games and then do raffle draw just to give our gifts right it's not they're not paying for anything

so we have a lot of gifts we have three major ones like a bike a computer whatever it is that we want to give on that day and just talk to them about being nice to one another right so so it's something we've been doing for many years uh before we started our church here in Fall River uh my family where's your church message is right across the street yeah actually my son my son figured we

we should get that place when we were looking for a place to wash it he said that this would be good for events so okay yeah so um yeah so we've been doing this for many years we're not new to that uh it's just gonna be the first time we're doing it in Fall River because we just started our church in for our branch in 2017. we used to use a Baptist Temple Church

prior to covid-19 and then covid-19 kick in and we all know the story so um so we want to bring it for a river um so we'll have some of our members coming from the other churches to assist in the program so the program is basically a fun fair uh not selling anything um and then getting to talk to people about Christ right are you going to be doing any food

so so we'll be uh Distributing water um you know some cheese yeah well everything count right is it all pre-packaged all pre-packed yeah so there's nothing cooking you don't need water no we're not cooking anything yeah the city sign off sheet that she would give you that has to go to each department but if you're not going to be doing that you're not going to have to go through it you're still gonna have to

do something because he's gonna have to notify Police Department talking about that we actually want to get the police involved because we want police to talk to the children right and one of the things we did in Brockton is to invite the fire department as well so that people can talk about oh career and you know you know do you wanna if you want to write this down uh her name is Captain Furtado

she is the Special Operations Captain she's the one that handles all the community policing okay okay

she runs the she runs you don't need that paper

I'm so sorry

Captain Furtado um

the commander of the Special Operations that which comprise of Street crimes housing actually uh canine all that uh school resolves she handles all of that okay we're in the process of moving so that's why my phone is at one place my computer I've seen your messages and I got me back to you emailing because like when I as soon as I can um I will be in touch with you to send you that

form it is online okay it's called the Civic events form and it is online so you can print it out um and what you do is you take that around because the the liability policy that we spoke of um that the legal department signs off they see that and they sign off so I will have um I I will email you and attach that but yeah we've spoken about the fees

the viability insurance and the sign off sheet so those are the three important things that have to mean to you okay quality issue the final product excellent with insurance we'll have no problem because we already have insurance because we do events and uh and you just have to just after that foreign okay any other questions from commissioners oh uh uh do I have a motion to approve

this for a 10 in the league of July 8th and make a motion for uh if they get all the proper paperwork

uh commissioner Ferris made that motion seconded by commissioner Perez all in favor say aye aye Welcome To Forever by the way thank you thank you good luck I don't know I don't know what's happening I have no idea lost okay item k request from Samantha Saucier summer bash event at Kennedy Park on June 24th reached out for additional information no response do we want to table this or wait

no I was going to say did she did we previously approve this no no you had to put it on the agenda just in case this individual showed up tonight gotcha she's never done anything in the past so should we reached out to what the situation wasn't it but we never heard back so but if we didn't put it under the agenda then yeah oh you need to help me on the

agenda and we don't want to saw something like that so so you want to just place it on file yeah okay commissioner Burns made that motion for a second second by commissioner farius all in favor say aye I don't want to step on Helen's toes trying to stay on our good side you can step on a little bit like she'll be fun yeah all right uh request item L request from Juneteenth committee for permission

to hang a banner on the fencing at Middle Street and Broadway for upcoming uh Juneteenth event and this I guess is the man

that's the place they were looking for it'll go up once they know that they have permission and that will come down um okay do I have a motion to accept us motion to accept motion to accept commissioner McDonald's second second by commissioner Burns all the things all right they're official item n request from Farmerville uh Sports Network the use of Kennedy Park Middle Street for a summer backpack giveaway uh

giveaway event for August 19th from 10 to 5 PM this is our third year in a row uh commissioner Burns is going to recuse herself from this vote this is the map laying out of all their uh tables where they would have it all their boots and uh be a DJs and their events uh you might uh you have in a vaccine clinic or no uh I don't know we haven't actually sent out the invitations yeah

this is the map from last year that we had um so I'm just they typically come but this is just a mock map and they have listed Porta Johnson they know all their particular is just their third year of doing this say my first rodeo I make a motion now we uh approve approve this commissioner commissioner fires made that motion do I have a second seconded by commissioner Regal all in

favor say aye aye uh just uh what we'll do this again for the record commissioner McDonald commissioner Ferris commissioned at the silver and commissioner Regal approved this commissioner Burns refuse ourself item n request from Bobby Bailey uh summer basketball league at Kennedy Park Middle Street oh this is the third year as well for Mr Bailey running this uh youth basketball Wednesdays and Thursdays from 5 30 P.M

to 9 P.M uh and he'll work with uh dcmina if he needs any uh lighting or porta johns or anything else that he needs this is his third year doing this so uh do we have a motion to approve this make a motion commissioner Burns me a commissioner Farish made a motion do I have a second by commissioner Regal all in favor say aye hey to Mo Quest from Ed Almeda forever Youth

Soccer regarding their fall season and the status of using late lighting for these games so just to keep the rest of you guys up to pop what we made a rule was that all only games will be at Brooklyn Park all practices would be at tavasos nobody can practice at Brooklyn oh that's going to only be for games we have no lights during practices and everything everybody has to have their

practices and everything so lighting I would say I don't have a problem giving lighting until youth soccer for games try to put timers there yeah because of the six to nine have an issue with with passing out keys and had an issue but I haven't signed out for Keys now or but I think what we're going to try and do is I've had electricians look at that panel and I think it would be probably

best if we put them on six to nine and if we know it's going to rain we'll leave them off something like that but it's a little ways down the road it's the end of August a lot of things can change as far as lighting and you know what our rules are going to be but at some point he just wanted to send this in because he wanted the boy to know he was going to require

lights now I know a lot of these people have come in not so much use soccer but the other organizations and they are willing to pay through these things we don't have that set up so something that you talked about last night at Council meetings these are things that they are considering doing down the road I don't know what the lead that will be in place by this time but I think by next

explain even the council is asking for some type of plan that we have in place of because Durfee charges 200 an hour for their field Charter School charges a hundred dollars an hour for their field we are definitely something that is to be addressed because Portland Park is definitely overused because of that fact so just so the board knows I'm not sure whether we'll be giving them Keys all

whether we'll be putting the time available we are trying to put the time as there just in case but the panels in there are pretty archaic and electricians are going to finagle some stuff in there because the way these lights are put on is it an individual for the lead goes into that circuit box and stats flipping switches and you know where we're expecting that an adult is going to go in there and do

it but I can't tell you that'll even say hey Johnny go in that shed and flick number two six and seven and I really don't want that to happen it's got to a point where I think we need to get with the times and either have these things on timers or be able to know that people are safe when they go into these buildings and stuff you claimed interest or a point of

discussion so this board has that in the Forefront of their mind when it's just like Okay so do we have a motion to approve this uh lights for games only and it would be for the Youth games no adult games earned because uh Little League we provide lights to them and this is just Friday night it says this Pro oh I'm sorry I'm lying this program is not travel so this is

probably their recreational team but I thought they played most of the games on Saturday so um he's gonna have to give me a schedule no matter what I know before this board so I think this is basically just an informational letter for this board until that request comes out how are we going to do this with the lighting so I don't think we need to vote on whether you're going to give

them the lighting or not right now or I think what they're looking for is listen we're going to need lighting so we don't want to come to you and August and you go up no lights with this board is basically saying is we're willing to work with you for the lights for the games but you need to provide us your actual schedules like you do for your spring season or like you know all right so places

so what places are available until we hear back yep I make a motion to place on file Mission Burns all in favor say aye aye and then Nancy you said you are going to look into the timer I am already oh you are okay

that's always that's a good sign yeah I'll come back to this board with a price you know of what I get as far as but I am reaching up to a couple of electricians because some of them you know you know this is a contract and not just a regular electrician I'm an electrical contract that will have to address this gotcha so they use the lights in the spring and

now they're saying they want to use them in the fall is that do I understand that we allowed that most of the games in the spring are in the daytime but because it's fall soccer now use it nighttime Friday nights and I believe Saturday days but they haven't submitted their schedule yet again for the most part I believe they open Friday night okay during this time of year they play afternoons so it's not

the lights haven't been that bigger and the thing is to uh commissioner McDonald we um a couple of months back the council had us at a special uh it's going to be a joint meeting between the popcorn and Council but a few of us kind of make it so we didn't have a qualm there but myself and commissioner Rigo was there and what the council wanted was ways that the park could be making money

how we can generate funds and everything because Manpower we have so much land and greens that these guys are taking care of that right the city can't sustain this the way it's going and so one option was making Brooklyn a premier feel a charge I'll have tournaments there and everything and so a lot of the leagues weren't too happy that there was not going to be no more practices there the practice was going

to be at the vases and you don't need to have lights for practice have your practices earlier or not so that's where we came from because everybody it comes down it's on the taxpay design that has to pay for all of this yeah well it makes sense if the leagues are charging the kids to play and you gotta I mean pay to maintain the fields and the lights and everything else

yeah I think like I know when other weeks establish these things it's like you know a hundred dollars into the 501c3 of 150 if you're not a five months right organization then another fifty dollars I've done this research for 100 times over and it just keeps on the back but if you're going to use lights it's an additional whatever if you're not going to use lights you don't pay that but it it's all

home it makes sense yeah and the problem that we were having to be honest with you commissioner McDonald was leagues were coming in and saying I want that time from one to eight yet when they sent me in their schedules they had two two hour and a half practices on it so that's three hours so how are you reserving eight hours right why and I equated it too if you put your hand in a

bowl of candy and I'm not going to charge you for how much you're taking out you're going to take a whole handful of candy right but if I'm gonna charge you for what you're taking out of that bowl you're going to take a red one and a blue one and you're going to go on your way and you're going to make do with what you have and that's I think

what we have to get to the point so that we a lot more people because what we're doing is a lot of the council is like well that field was empty all day unfortunately on paper but if they had to pay for it

it's like they're talking about yeah I think it's finally come to a point where the city knows it has to do something because we can't sustain what we have without charging whenever everyone else does but we get the influence of people well not only that it's how do we keep the upkeep we just like open the brand new pickleball court tonight you know if we don't maintain this it's not going to

look like that in three years right it's going to be run down tonight and also too I've said this before I think if you are looking for a permit at Brooklyn Park and you we charge you and you know that I I would like to see the city set up individual accounts this account is Brooklyn Park this account so that if you're paying to use a facility that you use you almost feel like you're paying

your mortgage you know you're paying into something that you have almost a something that you know you're going to use and then that money if that field is utilized more than the rest then it's going to generate more income than the rest right you'll be able to maintain out there well I think that's an important part of the conversation is you know if you're going to generate money where does it go

afterwards because it should stay in our money right now goes into all these fees that we charge they go into the general fund they don't stay in the park Department you know exactly Constable career put in a resolution at this point we're not generating a lot of money there was there was talk that we generated ten thousand dollars I knew that that was wrong and I looked into it because

what it is is the pops cemeteries and trees accounts all going to the same revenue account so if the most of what was being accounted as Revenue we might have an idea I mean a peace pace the most money so we might get three to five thousand dollars in a year from all of these things that we do for everybody in these parks but it was saying we had ten thousand dollars it's because the

reimbursement for a funeral on a Saturday overtime goes into that account the sale of probably foundations goes into that account so one year if someone buys a tree or something like that plants a tree or something like that right I don't think so so but the department actually deposited 159 dollars that was what we got in our account and the cemetery had like nine thousand dollars because it was Saturday funerals

that they have to reimburse the overtime if you have a Saturday funeral so if they're saying oh the park Department generated ten thousand dollars and reality when we broke it down we never did because it's a group account because at one point before we were DCM we were the parks and Cemetery department and they kept those accounts the way they were and never broke them apart so a lot of the internal bookkeeping is

still the way it used to be and it really needs to be separated so that we know and that goes with expenses with whatever because you may think the cemetery takes this much money to operate or the pox take this much money to operate but if DCM is kicking in so much money to them now if we ever have to self-sustain on our own we're going to have a inappropriate figure of what it took us

to sustain ourselves because someone else was kind of helping us along if we needed you know to subsidize what we were doing as far as people or time or whatever or equipment so I think that's all things that we have to discuss in the end of we need to separate a lot of these things that um so that if they ever separate again we know just what it takes to run through separate division um again but

a little complicated but that's your lesson in 20 seconds 20 minutes let's get lesson uh so item P it's a request from City Block health for the use of Griffin Park on 712 from 11 A.M to 2 p.m for a community outreach event they originally had it as June 27th they switched it to July 12th I know uh by speaking to uh tops Health uh first because they did an event last

year there this is their Community partner and they're going to do their own and then I know the next uh item Q the next item tops is going to be doing one also on a separate day that'll be their second annual this is the video first annual this uh organization so do we have a motion to approve this motion to approve motion to approve by commissioner Burns to have a second second by commissioner farius all in

favor aye item Q request from Tufts help plan to use of Griffin Park on 9 23.

for a food distribution and resource fair at Griffin Park on Fort Street I said this is the second annual event that they uh is it Griffin or Kennedy says the letter says Kennedy yes yeah is this a griffin or Kennedy I thought this was going to be a Kennedy Chelsea yeah uh yeah yeah you must you misprinted it no problem all right so let's make that record that it is going to be at Kennedy

Park on September 23rd uh for food distribution Saturday September 23rd for food distribution resource Fair for our community I'll make a motion accept it just so we know I'm just going to request where because Kennedy Park is a big place so they'll they can work with you yes work with you for a location yeah uh permission to approve and they'll uh Chelsea will work with Mrs Smith to find appropriate location and

uh update the board afterwards uh and do all the due diligence paperwork and everything uh do you have a motion to make that motion I make a motion commission Affairs made that motion do I have a second second second by commissioner Burns all in favor say aye aye by tomorrow Quest from Masha Picard for permission to conduct a bench dedication ceremony on the rail trail on June 27th at 11 A.M

uh Mrs Picard is here we did approve these two uh benches to be installed in a few months back it's just she wanted to come back now to make it official with the actual dedication date and everything so this is just a routine approval I'll make a motion that we uh commissioner uh Farris made that motion do I have a second by commissioner Rigo all in favor say aye

is that a request uh on the board to be invited if they want to go no problem thank you item s is uh request from the Victory church for permission to use Kennedy Park Broadway so they can conduct a family fun day on July 29 2023.

foreign so just by reading the lettuce as I am the Victory church of crown the road and Tiverton we are looking to host a family day at Kennedy Parkland Saturday July 29th different Tiffany yes this would be a free event which would include music pick up basketball game field games light Refreshments Etc is this something that we could be able to do and if so do we need a permit how does that work

if they're like not not affiliated with the city oh Lord here we go hey that's your choice is there anything else happening that day

I'm not sure

didn't Grant it it was requested but I agree with three Church sounds familiar place this on fire until the next meeting and have them here they might have been in the Forum of last year and moved to Tibetan I don't know but I remember seeing Victory Church as well I'm just checking my email to see I don't see anything from last year like not at least in my email from Jesus that was quick

she's got her phone you have uh the city of forest computers oh I'm gonna check in all the judges no well my it saves all the agendas and PDFs so if the names in there it'll pop up and I don't see it all right so so this is July 29th I would say let's table this and have them come for a July 5th meeting I also have a follow-up question so like

when when things like this come in they obviously go to what the Parks and Recreation email in it um does that only go to you or that goes to you goes to me and Miss Smith do we ever like reply with like that those types of questions and do they just because that and that's in my because like and this is just like to expedite the process but like those

types of things like or if we could see that ahead of time we could be like hey we need to know best for them to

you yeah well it's more so like replying like via email not calling and just be like hey

I'm almost positive Victory Church had something okay because my only thought is if we were like hey we need to know X Y and Z before the meeting then they could send a follow-up group that we had

item pretty much moved through without a hitch we had the information with us one the board has a concern because they're from out of town and two of the board would like a little bit more information so I would prefer that come from the gentleman and not through a third party kind of thing yep and he has to change the dates to relate a date he'll be in but I mean this seems like a

pretty simple thing we're going to play basketball but in a um so I don't think there's going to be a lot of rearranging I think you know a lot of these churches I don't know why they don't have these events anymore

involvement you're going to make a motion that we table this for more information okay commissioner Regal made that motion seconded by commissioner McDonald all in favor say hi hi and just uh commissioner burn just uh to you so one item that just came in uh tell you an email today it was a person requesting that uh they wanted to get married at Bicentennial Park the use of Bicentennial Park for their wedding and

Miss Smith will reach out to them and say that this is not allowed that not my cup of tea I mean somebody somewhere else but yeah but we don't allow stuff like that and the same thing where like some people want to do birthday parties in the Park Center and we don't allow that you did yeah he got he got married at Bicentennial Park um

no idea all right let's go we're we're on our last agenda item let's I do let's go item T proposal regarding the Kennedy Park pickleball courts Bay Street by James Crossings is there someone here listen come on patiently come on

last time you guys have the stuff in the agenda yeah almost ran out of lettuce I told the shoot should have just made up a few more items and we would have had to pull out the bed

all right uh just uh Justin uh state your name and uh from 1800 Highland Avenue in Fall River uh this is my friend Chrissy chrissy.com 700 Shore Drive Unit 712 Fall River I just want to make sure we didn't have them right down this week we do have to wait the rules thank you yeah um so um I don't know if everybody saw the proposal I sent or anything else like that okay

um so if you have any questions while I'm talking just feel free to rub me um so basically what I'm trying to do is um just set up schedule play times for the pickleball courts at Kennedy Park um I've been playing pickleball for the past four years I don't know if any of you have had the chance to play Pickleball yet um in any of these areas or anything like that

um so me and Chrissy have been playing for a long time um we've been playing in all the areas around Fall River um Fall River now has one of the only courts that has permanent Pitbull and that's um there's one in Fairhaven um in every other town is scampering to get these things done um there is four permanent quotes and very even permanentness there's no wallet tennis Nets or anything else like that there

so are they actually going through with that finally yes okay so that will be the next one um that one was in the process I think we were trying to get that one for like maybe three four years um so at least that's finally going through because a lot of people will be happy about that um oh yeah Bristol and Bristol is in the process of getting them too um so right now Farmers become a focal

point for everybody that plays pickleball um when I review your information on all the places that I play within a 15 mile race is about 6 000 or more people that play Pickleball around us um which is a big number and that number continues to grow um so what we want to do is set it up like all these other talents have it um Bristol which I had brought the

Ambassador with me when we opened up the courts on Friday um he's the one that's been doing the longest um he was doing this before anybody even knew what the sport was um he has everything down patent um and exactly what to do to have an organized group playing there um to make sure other people are coming in and using the courts and excluding other people from using them and um he's

gone over what you need from a non-profit and everything and he's been one of my mentors on going through this process he's giving a lot of the information I need to know and and basically a lot of stuff off of what he has done and again he has the biggest one in the area he has 90 people that play there a day um he actually has to split into two groups now because

there's so many people coming into there um this same thing can happen in Fall River um there's enough people that we already have playing at BCC which I have I was trying to send a roster and but you guys said you couldn't open it so we have about I think like 550 points um so this is the one this is the one that has the emails on okay and we have addresses okay so one

of the addresses I sent you obviously is a little bit less um it's hard for me to contact everybody as a whole to get all that information um if I could gather everybody and have them combined there would be a lot of a lot more on that list that I sent you the 60 on it um this 500 list is what we currently have that plays at VCC in Fall River

um and again that number is growing also um so that is going to be what's probably going to start happening in the Farber courts um the basis of the group is to have everybody play um nobody's excluded um if people want to play on the chords well that group's going on we do not kick them off the course if people want to play tennis world on the courts they

play tennis we do not we're not doing a hostile takeover or anything else like that so we just want to have everybody in the community come together to be able to play Pickleball um one of the more important things of this also is you need four people to play Pickleball if there's people out there that want to play and don't have any to play with this group includes them so they're able to play with four people

um that's gonna be one of the major things uh to get everybody out coming to the courses on to play this um like I said it's all based on all age groups so you have people like me that are playing it I have another yes so are you saying no one plays singles pickleball you can play singles pickleball um I've done it I've meddled in it and uh I want to die after playing enough

matches in it um I don't even have the stamina left for it so you get you can't play singles

pickleball do you serve from behind the furthest line like tennis excited yeah so you you'll serve from the back line so just like tennis you have to serve from behind the line in the overhead serve obviously this is pickleball's on the head um so yes you'll be serving from behind that line okay

okay I looked at the lines that are painted on those chords painted line is at the very edge of the asphalt and I'm like okay so if you're gonna be serving from the grass that's behind the painted line of the asphalt this is not really working out as it should be and it's really not really regulated the correction made I'd like to ask that the correction to be made before they do any more so that's

why I'm asking you this okay because yeah you know we ran into the situation of the net The netting between those four pickleball yes that's one of the major issues for that right now let me let

that we're involved in that project and I said I'm not an expert but I think that that poses a concern because I don't think it's a concern between the tennis court and the pickleball court sideways but those back-to-back chords I said you know somebody might get overzealous and want to go back and get that ball and then you got to paddle and then you go to this and then you go to that and I was told

and I did all of this email so I because I communicate via email like I said and I was told it wasn't a concern now I'm hearing and I don't know how true it is and and it was it said that I was the one that was spearheading this yes I spearheaded this concern in February but I do not want and I don't know that this board does anybody drilling into those new courts

to install a fence to create that barrier because I think it's just going to create chaos first of all I don't know how they're going to access that because all of the fencing is up now so to take all of that fencing down to get the equipment in there now you've got all that equipment on brand new surfacing you're going to have to drill into that and cement around those poles

and I think it's just going to look like hell oh I would think that at this point in the game and this is just my opinion the powers that mean they make different decisions I don't know but I don't want it to be said that I am spearheading the demolition of those chords because of that concern I said at this point we missed the opportunity to do something permanently and it may be as

applicable to people who ever played it if they're playing in large groups like you're looking to barrier because I don't know about you but just like any kind of asphalt or cork when you start drilling into there you're compromising that and the last thing that I want to do is have those courts cross teeth or anything like that I'm not an expert I don't think it you know I don't know what can happen but I

think we missed the opportunity um so what I'll say is oh um

just that we're gonna have to drill into to put something permanent and I'm a little bit leery about that I'm going to be out front honest and open so that everybody knows I mean do I think it should have gone there before yeah I think we I think the shift has sailed at this point though and I really feel very strongly against digging that up again but this this board has the final

decision the mayor's office of that final decision but I just don't want one question I had one question I had too and we were there at the Press because there are no it's Microsoft commissioner Regal commissioner McDonald we're at that press conference yeah last Friday that I noticed and we had to address it right away is the parking lot do you ever think that it's going to be like

that at all times the parking lot was made too small they should have put that parking lot all the way we had plenty of grass and then we had to have it addressed because somebody came zipping into that parking lot and almost hit that light pole yeah I started building the barriers right yeah I had them I had them put them uh we had to have a d sample granite in front of the poles

because it wasn't the pole would have came right now and let that guy hit that cop hit that and it would have came right down on the courts so um actually effects of um so um unfortunately what's gonna happen is players like me that go a little crazy and play Pickleball um if the ball goes backwards you're gonna go for it exactly um and if the other person the other court does the same thing nobody's

turning around to look at the other price and so um they're gonna crash into each other uh the pickleballs will roll into the courts which causes another concern when we play at BCC we have to stop playing immediately when the ball rolls in because if anybody steps in that ball they roll an ankle fall down um we that's the other concern is the ball's going to deal at Quartz um

I know you don't want to compromise the Integrity of what the courts are um I think honestly it's just gonna have to be polls that go into the ground um and you have holes drilled into the tennis Nets now that are holding him as a strap um that are in the courts currently so I think those were drilled in anyway so I don't know if those are back there I don't know how um

no I understand but I I I'm 100 I have that safety concern before it even went anywhere this board ultimately will strike or the man's office or whoever will decide I'm just um because I know you've been one of her concerns was how high it's not going to be and I know you even addressed it it cannot be a little offense it has to be about 40 it has to be up because you

don't want to be tripping them exactly you don't want to break it back on it yeah um so again it when you guys are doing future things like this exactly if you ever if you ever need any need to come work and ever help you guys win anything I have if I have free time I have no problem doing that for you but sounds like you might need them to look

at britland if the line is right on the yeah yeah

I don't know but that's why I already saw that and mess around playing pickleball with my husband I don't play doubles we play like dude like singles play we're gonna make it well yeah yeah we call it competitive when you start sweating playing pickleball gets get better it wasn't it's just it's not just the pickleball courts at Brooklyn it was the best yeah like this the grass in between I I think

I would have just paved that whole area that way you're not having trip hazards because someone runs off that basketball court hits the grass and goes on to the other part they're going to end up tripping so I think I if if you have a moment to go by there please go by and send me an email as to what you think so far along even if you guys want if you guys

wanted to go there with you in person all right I like to explain things it's pricing because sometimes in email I lose some of the translation out of this all we need to know is this is needs to be extended okay that's my question okay because that was my concern again that I was like okay when I saw the lines going on like I you know listen I don't have a permanent

measurement of a pickleball court in my head I looked at the thing it was a black piece of black top I'm like okay they're saying they're going to put three quarts here when they actually put the lines on those courts and I went there and saw it I was like and like I said to you I I I didn't get out of my car and try to squeeze through it but the poles of

each pickleball court they're too close together they seem like they're very they did this is my thing I understand that we want to make the most of the space maximize the space we have but I think when you're trying to jam three pickleball closets that maybe should have had two um we're defeating our purpose for helping new people out yeah that's my opinion no you're right and you don't you don't

want it it's the problem with a lot of people that are building into a quartz it's the same thing people are buying these spaces up trying to fit as many costs as they can in them and they're kind of giving up some of the Integrity of the courts because of that fact um if you don't have enough space to move around then you kind of just defeat the purpose of having the course

exactly so if those three chords are that type that falls going into the middle class yeah you'd put you put something you're trying to put a puzzle piece and that's not gonna fit well it's fitting but it's gonna fit they're cutting the corner into another piece of paper in there they're gonna be too tight yeah yeah like my concern before this progresses any further I don't even know how far

I've progressed at this point I I was like today Wednesday my writing and I'm like I'm like I just shivered and said I don't know that this is going to work so before they go there and paint the ports I'd like to send if you could go there sooner than later I'd like to send the architect an email and say we have this meeting I had to in front of me I

brought this concern to you so uh you know go to the pickleball experts it's not just me talking and they said um I agree with you we might have to you know because it's people like who like them yeah and you're gonna how the heck did this so that's why we were friends behind there's a fence between the basketball court okay and uh the other side and that's going to be a fitness club

area and so there's going to be other people in that area but my my bigger concern with that is you're going to be off of the asphalt and into the grass yeah and then you can slip around the grass that's my biggest concern with that okay I went there Friday after the press conference to look at that and of course and seen the pad that the fitness class and there's so much room around

the fitness club and I'm like why didn't they just swap them yeah that way you would have plenty of room all right but again this is when you guys do future things like that yeah okay but it helps to have the blueprints okay we get well I won't say that we just got the approval I got you well if you could always have a house okay I don't wanna you know I don't want

to go there I don't want it helps out in the outside perspective of someone that can be the problem for them yeah yeah but if you guys ever need anything like that if you have my phone number okay you can do that probably either put the brakes on or ask for someone to address that it may already physically I don't know okay but um I just because before for the longest time like

maybe the last two weeks it was still just the black slab the black asphalt piece so they go up there yeah yeah because now because we have an architect we have you know before then plan all this so so I saw the line and then like yeah correct me the tennis courts is it it's two pickleball courts right in the tennis courts oh there's four there's four for the boat tennis courts yes so

and then and then there's four separate ones yes so it's eight here and then three at Brooklyn so there's eleven technically yeah of course yeah the thing with BCC is BCC is deteriorating at a faster rate because those questions can't have everybody because they you and then I'm not being whatever this goes with everything because because it was good enough to monopolize BCC at the time and now it's fallen to

pieces we can't have everybody move over here because what's gonna happen is this is gonna fall to business so that's where we have the conversation where we have to so afford this

book and and as far as this whole pickleball thing goes I I mean I realize that you guys are a big organization but I think at this point I don't think that this board can just go okay we're gonna give you an instrument I think they're going to gather a little bit of information I think they gotta Watch What Happens at those courts let's see when are the Prime Times maybe they don't give you

always a prime time because that's when people that might not want to be in your organization want to go there unfortunately there are people that belong to groups and soccer clubs and Baseball clubs and then there are others that that don't so I think with this being the first in the city this board has to tread carefully and no one's saying that you won't eventually be able to permit times I've gone to

Warren or whatever they put pickleball reserved 5 30 to 7 30 on a Tuesday one day they don't go Monday to Friday oh no you know I'm absolutely one to compromise but I'm just saying but I think even immediately for this board to go okay we're going to hand out a permit the thing is there it's open to the public everybody is willing to use it I think it would be remissive this board

didn't take out the month whatever gather some information to see who's playing there you may be there all the time I know this morning when I went there there was four elderly gentlemen with a big basket of balls probably they were playing on the tennis pop the very first Co-op closer to defense can I tell you oh sorry go ahead and then there was one woman where you guys were on the President office that

last one by herself just hitting it over by yourself so that's why I'm like okay so some people are going to use them quote some they're going to use these yeah and people use it for drilling and other things like that um I think a good one wanted to commit our time to you would be you talked about clinics I think if the board wanted to have open house type clinics

and permit you time that would be one thing because not only would it maybe be beneficial for people to come and see what your organization was about but it's also a time where people can it's it's something that the city is offering to almost like a welcoming to the to the whole situation I think to walk in and initialize permits on the first month when the thing's been open a week I

think this board would be it would be a little premature that's again my opinion and this board has whatever okay rights they want to do and I know I did put a lot of times on there I was just throwing the schedule out there um it doesn't have to be that exact schedule you took a lunch break and then you come right back so what I was just putting that there um

I can put I could play for six hours a day what um I I'm a big I'm a big proponent of action speaking loud in the words um so obviously I don't need all those times if it was a day or two days just to start off just so you guys could see what it's all about and take it from that later on um that would be perfect

um I this if I don't have a chance to show you guys what it's about just by doing at least one day um then it's just gonna take me longer to get this going the process which comes to my next point is there is already Shadow groups coming in here now because they know that's open and they have teams of 16 to 24 people that are coming in here no no permits no Library insurance no

non-profit status um and this is what's going to start an open course yeah people that aren't from Florida so these are people making a motion that we're adding this to the record so Miss Smith will be adding this to the record so yeah no said he just handed me so this is what's going to start happening next and like I said I've been through I've seen this happen that's what this board wants to

see they need to see it happen so we have justification for doing what we do okay I guess what I don't understand about it is like I always think like I don't know my mind goes to basketball there's a few basketball courts there you go if there's six guys you play three on three if there's ten guys you play five on five but I think that I don't know anything about pickleball so

if I were to go down there I don't know the rules I don't know how to play but I think it would be nice if your group was there one or two days a week if somebody wanted to learn hey what do I need to do but I also think that you need to be able to have people that may be intimidated by a group that want to go down you know in the morning and say

okay I want to try this out while there's less people here to to see if I like it before I go down because I don't want to embarrass myself and that's the reason why so fbcc uh during last summer I was teaching groups of 24 people at a time um all new to the sport um and message to them was I know everybody's intimidated to play Pickleball um it was a beginner group where I

taught new people how to play and then beginners would play amongst themselves um so I'm all inclusive for everybody and another part of what I was doing with this was as you said the clinics um I would be teaching adult groups and youth groups I'm in the process of teaching a youth group in Barrington for the summer so voluntarily because that's no charge um that's the same thing I did Chrisley

Knows I taught everybody and you saw how many people were there I took time out of my days on the weekends to teach these people and also brought in these people into the pickleball um I think that the citizens that are interested in playing are gonna want scheduled time because then you have no one to play with and you're like all right there's only six people playing tonight that kind of strength so you

want at least to get like 12 people playing so you can right and I really take breaks and the schedule right now that you guys do are whoops gonna have to understand that eventually from what I'm hearing is coming to the city of Fall River and its permitting process is perhaps you're going to have to get permit time through a website on the city and especially if they stop a charge or something like that it's

going to have to go through something like that okay because it wouldn't be anything that someone could be here every time I want to you know get a permit you might decide at seven o'clock at night then six of you want to do something tomorrow morning at eight and there's nobody in Government Center or whatever to do that so I had researched this before looking at what other cities have done with this

um and unfortunately most of the things that I read were kind of negative um because was kind of a mess with the city scheduling system um what we use yeah

of custom so people if you want to play you can look and see if there's play oh maybe I'll play so many people are playing then you can sign in and then you say oh well you have 20 people playing on Saturday that initial scheduling of the Tuesday from where you might play Tuesday we'll say from 5 30 to 8 or whatever would have to be scheduled through the city of Fall River

because those odd city-owned courts men on your own pickleball put that schedule on there you go into there and play Within those confines yeah that's what that's what I think that's how it's going to happen um like I said this is a whole new ball game and you know the talk of scheduling things online for every one of our courts and Fields And whatever is is so this is this is why this is like a

little bit different because there's not always you like nobody has like pick up soccer games like I used to play pick up basketball games but there would only be about 10 bucks a game you do yeah okay so I didn't know that I don't play soccer people aren't going to come and wait around and hope that somebody comes to play like unless you have like a scheduled play I understand what you're saying

saying they're you know if this board has to decide whether they want to wait a month to do this and gather some information and then say okay Mr crosston we're going to give you one night and one afternoon or whatever you know and then the pickleball and your people from your organization go on there and play with it that little confines of those times so the other that makes sense yes but the only other

thing is so this is why I'm just asking for like at least one day because instead of waiting for a month to do something like this and then I'm gonna have to deal with all these shadow groups that's not coming in here okay yeah here's my other question about the shadow groups that shadow group could come in and say you know what he's got people from Bristol playing in his league and he's got people from Somerset

so we can't be the district police because if I'm going to take even though you are saying or I'm going to file the 501c3 you'll find the 501c3 but you're still bringing in The Outsiders and believe me these people take an inventory of who's if if you're doing it we'll have little leagues if there's one kid from Tiverton there's like an operator so that's what I'm saying like your list there's a lot

of people that are not from Fall River so that will end up being a whole other situation that's the list that I got from the group that we have that currently plays there I'm more gearing towards working with the Fall River Community not with the outside Community you say that but then if no one from the Fall River Community shows up and everybody's from Barrington you're still going to go about your Merry way which

makes complete sense but then that's when it comes back to us and at the end of the day it is a public park so we can't look at these shadow groups but I mean I used to play basketball when I was younger everyone would just meet up in Maplewood it wasn't like a whole thing like there'd be certain days everybody went but we didn't have the whole permit process we we could call us

a shadow group but we just showed up but the other thing on the other side of stick is too if I'm going to be running clinics and teaching people um I would need the liability insurance to be able to do that also yep um so part of the 501 C3 thing is that I get insurance to be able to teach new people and play Pickleball um so that's one of the my major

concerns because I don't want to get in trouble for teaching people if I'm not being covered by it um but that's not what the request is board has a problem with scheduling yeah clinics for you no I'm not because that's not what your your request is to just be able to play with your group it's not I have a 501c3 I want to request to be able to hold clinics that's it's a two separate requests

right yeah yes so if this request was hey I'm I have a 501c3 I want to use all the same times let's say to do clinics that's a different request than hey me and my group want to be able to use these chords because we love pickleball and anybody who wants to come and play with us they can come which like BJ said I don't play Pickleball but I'm when I

play sports I don't play around so I'm not going to want someone random who doesn't know how to play to come play with me because I like get the hell out of here but um that's the other issue yeah at PCC this is why I'm trying to bring the same system over there is because we incorporate everybody yeah um so everybody is able to play nobody feels ostracized um everybody is going to get to play and

if I have the chance to even take a day to do the group thing I can start sourcing or marketing towards the people in Fall River um I can use thought Facebook Fall River um and then watermel spread very quickly once I start doing that I've already been contacted by People Incorporated and asking me to do beginner lessons of clinics and stuff like that boys and girls club has any interest in it

saying that what you're saying that you want to do for your group well eventually when I am teaching these people they're going to want to play without me teaching them oh I always and that's when they're going to start coming into a group setting right and and the board is not saying yeah correct me if I'm wrong but the board is not saying that we know you're not getting any time and

I think BJ even said you know maybe we'll get you know we can do something with one night or whatever but I'm just saying I think we just need to take a breath and see what happens and I don't think that the one month and you guys getting they have the permits just going to be acted on them they'll be able to gather this information you can go there you can schedule on your your

website it's open because because realistically in my head if it's like activity to that for this yeah if you guys are that inclusive what does it matter if outside people from your group come does that so I was at the impression um that I wasn't able to schedule anything until no you're not no it's a public park use of yes so you people all your scheduling there is the the minute we

get complaints that this guy's down here with his pickleball group and he's like a bully all right I wasn't doing the impression that I wasn't able to create a scheduling not separate aside from the non-profit I did I thought I had to do this in order to schedule any play times for people no it's a public park so you can go there anytime that you want if somebody else has a permit for it

oh you can't kick him off the court yeah

they ask for specific times which means she comes there you go not today Lady this is we're here this group is here and we got her her her her and her to fit in before you can jump into this group okay that creates chaos yeah people in the city of Fall River okay so what we're saying is he would hope would not monopolize the court but Europe you you can use your own little

thing to schedule things until it becomes a problem okay for us yeah you're our Kennedy Park playlist I I had no idea so this is this is basically a lineup that's the one of the things we use and you can just say

they'll probably be using the Wolves at Bay yeah because they'll anyone else coming in will still be able to have it so right I would say even if you you guys are used to for Nets now I know that commissioner Silva said you want tennis courts to be used for tennis and the pickleball to be used for pickleball first however I think if you have overflow you guys have your own Nets

and no one's on the tennis court it wouldn't be a issue as long as when someone comes with their tennis racket and tennis skirt you know that pickleball is gonna all right I I was just under the impression it's like since this would be going that I had to make a non-profit organization I wanted to do it okay for like clinics and stuff for that type of stuff yes exclusive use of the local park yeah but

if you guys are all because I'm thinking like if you're gonna go play basketball and you text a bunch of people and everybody gets there same idea right nobody's gonna stop you from going down there commit and his ultimate commit for part we have this club from 5 30 to 7 30 and the people go oh the hell you do I pay my taxes now you just you just maybe

like a thousand times happy yeah I was gonna say that's why I was very confused I was like I feel like this is what you think that no no no I absolutely you know I would probably like I said I would probably for a little while maybe the first month like we're saying keep your scheduling small yes small to maybe monopolize two quarts or two quarts and especially depending on what time it is or maybe

not every single day of the week evening the middle of the day I've gone down there that's not a soul there dang hot right now the last few days there was nobody on those spots and you live there so I'm sure you go by their number on Shore Drive yeah so I went down there a few times at eight o'clock nobody one o'clock nobody so I don't know that you're going to

have the problem that you think and the other thing that we want to do for Fall River residents is be able to say to those people like you're saying are coming from out of town and trying to manipulate what's going on you're going to be able being down there to say hey this group that comes because believe me there are more tailors oh yeah yeah grammar school okay I get more phone

calls you need to do something about this person I'm like well listen I'm not gonna go out there because I don't want to get beat up we're going to call the police going to do whatever yet but this is what I'm saying about gathering information and take a the pie and don't try to take the whole pie at once you may be able to work into the pie without anybody having anything

to say oh and I have no I have no problem with that

but whatever you gotta limit your plate and so that you're not taking the whole thing okay but this is what I mean about not getting a permit but yes and the things that we will prevent you for and will have the courts monopolized for open that people sign up for you know you need or like a tournament or like like a set tournament like if you're like oh we're having the Massachusetts

pickleball whatever but like if it's something like that that's something we would permit for you just to go and play like that's not what becomes yeah that was gonna be that was gonna be my next thing because like you will ask that question at the press conference by one of the reporters oh if you guys wanted to do a tournament you would have to come before Oh yes to get permission you

can't just run no just run your own and the same thing in the same thing if you've heard like for the Juneteenth event I noticed that day you had it but to hang that Banner on that fence you would need our permission okay that you can't just put a banner I'm used to compliance but I think I do for work so yeah I know it was there for the event

but for the cotton I hope I clarified no that makes a lot more sense I was just on the impression that I had to make a non-profit organization or to schedule things to be able to play at VCC this alleviates a lot of what I was thinking okay you were coming in as a group you were saying the Fall River pickleball group so the information you're going to get from me is

and we had this conversation are you a league well I'm a pseudo League I'm a league I'm like apparently you better cover yourself so the liability policy is not going to do it's not a waste for you it's very good okay so to speak of the organization okay but I think you know for the clinics without it that's you're gonna have to have that anyway and that's definitely gonna have to be

okay and so um I do you want me to come with you times at work for the clinics and stuff like that okay that that would be good in this way we could put it on the city space yeah okay the city website you know really you know you this is is going to happen here or whatever I'm sure that that's something that would want I love it and especially now that they have the

new uh Samantha Barbosa who's the event choir she could put stuff like that up on that website okay um all right so going forward um the last thing I just needed for that list

because most people play PCC too so right people want to play there either in smaller groups or on larger groups um and again if it's

and plus what we do is even if there was a ton of people there and if people want to come and not play with us we'd obviously let them have the chords uh for how many people I agree a thousand percent that I'm just worried about complaining okay I I believe me from day one I said it was needed and yeah I don't know how that's gonna work without having something

there to be honest with you because you're back to back with people the whole time the other thing too is um at BCC we're divided by the net from the tenants court so you you know even if you're back to back with somebody I might say hey James you know and then we just right but you you know that's what you have to stop listen I that's the when I saw it on paper I was like

yeah I was surprised but what can you do um the other thing was um that's going to be something else that comes up is um you there's a strap on the tennis Nets that you have there currently already that's holding the middle of that down um the pickleball courts on the Nets don't have those um and they got to be of like a regulated size um

that will be the next thing that's gonna come up because there's supposed to be a strap in the middle that sags in that down a little bit in the middle um yeah it's like the tennis courts have the same thing so the middle of the Nets brought down with the shrap that's in the middle of it um and they don't have those don't have them um so I'll have to check

because I think okay okay everybody something that can be so it unfortunately it's going to be another thing that has to be put into there oh hell no I'm just I'll let you know because I've already heard you just put like a little weight in the middle yeah I'm just saying it is there something that Frost is not gonna screw it up afterwards you're gonna have to talk to Century or

somebody all right I'm just letting you know since Friday I've already heard as much as I can hear about what's going on there um so everybody was not hesitant to tell me what needed to be changed there tell him it's a free court so if they want a good one build one in your backyard because everybody was complaining we had nothing we had nothing and I understand that everybody likes

Perfection but it's all the learning curve and you know what what you have there is better than what you oh I know from yeah so as my mother would say usage and just like you know what I'm saying that's kind of what I told everybody that day already so a lot of the people coming in with their little outfits and they're coming from barringtons and everything and oh my God there's something oh this and it's like

you got a thing Fall River taxpays versus Barons intact

urban community yeah yes nothing against it I'm saying there's more money

this is supposed to be recreational pickleball so if your strap isn't on your neck I don't know that it's a catastrophe yeah the other thing is to oh here we go whatever just make us a listen email us what if you want to have a tournament then the next needs to be regulation size unfortunately we don't want to have a tournament you want to have a tournament well this is good the

other thing is this is bringing a lot this is gonna bring a lot of Revenue yeah I know most of the people that own most of the places down next to Tipsy Seagull and everywhere else like that so a lot of the people I know that play Pickleball do like to go out for food drinks after they play um oh you like them more after you play Pickleball um why not but anyway

you don't like to go out and pay for food and drink but I ask them for paying for the courts and nobody wants to pay no one can afford it but they can all go out for food and drink what's up with that am I crazy I mean if you just go all right I understand everything you're saying this is not the first thing to come before I know that I gotta wrap this up because

okay we already lost Helen all right can I ask one question about the courts down there are the lights on now no no oh yeah when do the lights turn on I have to meet with the contractor about that okay but right now I'm 100 honest with you pot closes at nine pm and it's pretty much you know you know light delete okay so we weren't as concerned with that as we would be a little further

down the road again but um eventually I don't know that they're just going to like them every night every night randomly because it's very expensive okay oh one of the questions I did that too is other cameras on those light bulbs no no so those on camera I would like to exercise right all right because I it looked like there was that I felt a lot better when

I saw that but um I don't know no but I I appreciate frpd that would know that yeah I appreciate everything but we will um

okay at this point I think Sun changes a little bit more no we have to have commissioner inquiries

as long as we don't get back backlash any backlash than what I would ask is that what Clinic clinics I mean if you want me to start doing the clinics ASAP um then we can get that going right now that's a separate route yeah it has to be a separate request S I usually do I'll do it I usually do it every week and I might be able to do

it twice a week if I'm doing that right but we don't want to take this and turn it into a full-time job for you either he does it anyway you know a once a week thing or a one some you know twice a month thing if that's what you want to do to stop well that's why I like you had to go as soon as possible because I like to do it when it's warm up

okay we will be if you're there and someone you know you happen to do it on your own time are you guys down there down there close so I don't send me in at least the dates that you're looking to try to do those clinics okay I am aware of what's going on down there and I put on my shield for the for the phone calls all right um other than that um feel free to use

me as a point of contact for anything and then oh that's fine I just I thought I had to do this to in order to do any play times so now that I know this is no problem we don't need to address it again okay if there is problem or backlash or whatever then we would need to stop and then if the city ever decides that they're going to do charging for fields and ports or whatever

you have to understand we have to revisit all this that's fine so just let's play by ear at this point this point okay see it's going so that we can bring that information you guys might be the only Souls down there if I said schedule that might not be the case yeah I'll try to get that for you that doesn't sound good to be honest all right well thank you everybody thank

you very much have a good night commissioner inquiries

Park this is your last fish pot and I have a look at the record um and last night in the budget they met with the budget as you guys know before I went before they asked for us to put in funding for a study funding for maintenance of so

I did put the money in unfortunately the money was infected so we did not get that money what the council um Administration decided was that they were that we had other avenues to pursue as far as CDA CPC or Papa funding however my concern with that is CDA does not do repairs so what you're looking at right here right now is not anything that CDA would be able to do I don't believe the CPC would

be able to do I think a lot of these organizations can do Renovations and put in for if they're almost like France other than right CBA but I know for a fact that CBA has designated neighborhoods and locations that they have to stay out of and they also cannot do repairs I can't have them replace swings or do lose compares to one section of the floor they got it before they got to take it

all out and put it all in Alpha funds I don't know recently we just did the splash pad for again and I did it with opt funding and that one splash pados park was 132 thousand dollars we have one hundred thousand dollars in CBA funds that I don't know where it says various expenditures a hundred thousand that's it okay that's what I just signed and normally we used to get what 600 or 4 or something

we got six but we sometimes and they said because they have other they didn't give a okay um I did send this email and the estimate that I got to Mr Oliveira posted this morning and Mr Debbie even said listen is there anything on the funding any whatever that we pay for this so I did get the due diligence of getting the quote I don't know that this is going to be

repaired but I did want the board to know that we did follow the instructions of the council and we were supposed to do unfortunately so um if you watch the meeting you can see where they said they felt we had an opportunity to get some of these funds elsewhere but again my concern is that a lot of these organizations don't do repairs maintenance repairs so that's just something um just see what we can do

um the other thing is we had some tree come down at Maplewood Park near the baseball field where we had other trees taken down this particular tree was trimmed and I guess it couldn't take the stress of being tremored but a big Branch came down so I had you know we have Chris from the tree Department get a proposal to remove those two trees now before we have any other incidents in that um that

expense is four thousand eight hundred and eighty dollars to remove those two trees remove them burn the stumps and get them out of there so we're not sure where this money is going to come from whether it's going to be it has to come from this fiscal year because it's happening now so and as you know June 30th ends idea so we're working on raindrops I wanted the board to know that though

if anyone does ask those trees are going to come down I'm not sure when probably included in the next week or so everything so can we use Perpetual care no um with the recent Maplewood prod and had twelve thousand dollars above and beyond so Victor you can bring the bring this back to the CPA above and beyond the 550 that we got there is a lot of money that is going into that particular project that um

you know I know when we I went before your board they said well what money has the city put in well city is now sending us the CPC to get get our stuff done and then say what money has the city put in and we're kind of caught in the middle of that type of walk when the city makes those those like comments do they ask anyone or they're just like we don't want to foot

this bill and pass it along what do you mean like when they say like oh we think that there are other avenues that you can look into like has anybody left spoke up and said hey they don't do repairs they don't they know that they just appreciate the administration so they know particularly who does what I think but then they're still sending us to them that's like just well I mean

I I don't know what to say as far as I know I just wanted this board to know that I did do my my due diligence by doing what the board had asked what the council had asked and when it came back it wasn't in there and the feedback was they felt the broad that the pox had opportunities to offer through whatever so you know I'm saying okay so I can I I

ask can I pay for this and I'm not being facetious I'm just saying it needs to be done and it's you know significant amount the other thing too is Opera is only around for another year right and I think with the council so that's when I was out the winner after that what the council was looking to do is get us maintenance money again how money's one ta is like

like the CPC I mean this is a one-time deal yeah sounds like all roads lead back to generating Revenue to use the fields right leave it then I mean We're not gonna do this we're not we will generate some Revenue but we're never going to generate a sustainable Revenue I mean if we're charging per hour but you watch how much that backs out you watch how much that backs out of

people that are now saying they need eight hours they'll need three yeah because even he was like he had what requested like 10 hours out of a day and then was like oh we might only use it like we only have small groups that would only need it for a few hours and I was but I don't want to stop anybody from playing if it's not going to be an inconvenience right any of the other

taxpayers how bad it use it that's what it's there for we we need to get into this when it becomes a problem of everybody being allowed to participate activities that enjoys what their taxpayer dollars pay for so yeah and like I said come down the road when when and if we do start charging you pickleball is your pickleball group is going to have to schedule their time in between the times that you have paid up front

for to reserve because I don't really think any organization should get all the time yeah because and like I said with the other you know this is exactly what's happened he's like these people are playing them they don't belong I know Peter Sears is going to be real upset when his name again 14 people and then believe me I don't know where they do their research but they should be on a paralegal or

something because they come in everything they need and they go to town so like I said it's here it's for use I I I'm all for having it used but actually before we did we did we motion that no no it's still kind of no there was no motion to me no no because there's nothing do we like motion to like get rid of it or is that like a you well honestly you probably could

commotion that at this time you're not going to designate any hours any hours but it's something that we'll revisit in the future I don't want to open me in law I'm done I just know about the budget is about the repairs and um so I make a motion for item T that we will revisit in the future we will not be making any decision at this time second second all in favor say all right

well actually commissioner Burns made that most second by commissioner Ferris all in favor say aye aye the other thing I just wanted to talk about the trees real quick uh I spoke with uh Mr Martin from the tree Department uh since this is going to be already two more trees coming down in Maplewood I know when we talked to the league they were once the lights the Electric's done we have

it all mocked out where everything is in the fall Mr Martin's and Mr Verano the tree uh what internet will look at Maplewood about putting up the right species of trees that don't grow so big and put them in areas to replace these trees see this gentleman I'm just getting this paper back from him that's what I'm saying that guy's name is plastered he's already left a message for me

really yep I recognize the name I just saw the name I'm like and I had another call from somebody else that was a different name than him so as long as we're aware that this may may not be a peaceful resolution all right so annual commissioner inquiries um I don't think we should put any more trees at Maplewood I feel like it has plenty of trees why would we replace

trees that does I feel like you walk over there there's nothing but shade because there's Street even if you get rid of two there's still a bunch there that are big enough I think we should just leave it the way that it is well my only concern with the cheese and I know it's not Chris's fault I know that this is Northeast has so many trees to put in but

the amount of time it's going to take a cup of grass now around all these trees and you can agree correct I mean you've done this before yeah on every island that I used to have guys run lawn mowers up and down I don't know no they're going to be like this yeah just just no more trees I think it's a little bit of Overkill I'm not I want to

treat people oh well I think that we really I know Mr Brown brought that plan in and we were like oh yeah just great we're gonna put in trees and I don't know that we saw the actual designations and dots of where these trees were going but uh maybe just can attest to that but I think I think Dan was right we gotta kind of pull the rings on some of these trees

and I want to let you know that when I was in the park you all know that I have a situation with Park sidewalks and maybe you can relate this to Northeast tree Chris please um the water truck was going up and down those sidewalks at Kennedy Park and one of the sidewalks I was told is crack now I'm not blaming them because I don't know if they cracked it but if I

can't put a Ford pickup on that then someone need to keep four pickups not plowing that snow then I don't know how a water truck is not heavier than my Ford pickup and it came up Middle Street and turned down south main to water all those new trees so somebody snitched something to them they might be able to go from I don't even know how they're going to get to them but I mean I know that

there's a lot of pocket on The Middle so that's why they're probably coming can't they just drive on Park Drive on South Main Street

and they could water those trees without going on on the sidewalks because I think we should oh definitely you know a heads up we chain off the thing because they they complain that I I didn't tell you the truth I didn't go down and see it but they're like that's on the sidewalk fractal

I was gonna say yeah because we have that with our event we have that issue that we're not allowed to put anything on there it used to be six but you can also get in the sidewalks they took out were six inches thick and the sidewalks they put back were four inches thick with no rebar they don't put rebar in them anymore so that's why she's been that's why she's been asking three years for a

Kubota also yeah you can get you can there from the bottom because there's that like angled Hill at the bottom so you can come up the famous Kubota three years in a row for budget is because yeah the truck down the sidewalk because it's gonna break it it's still heavy exactly so you gotta go something smaller definitely if not the guys are doing show that with snow blowers well we just get like a a four-wheeler

with the plow on the front they just need it yeah all terrain that's it they do they just need to buy it you can't afford it all right all right anything else guys nope all right so we won't see each other until July 5th everybody happy Fourth of July motion to adjourn motion to joined second second by uh commission Affairs made that motion seconded by commissioner Burns all in favor say aye aye