7.10.23 Conservation Commission

uh welcome to the forward conservation meeting being held at uh public uh hearing on Monday July 10 2023 uh first floor hearing room one government center Fall River to consider the following petitions listed notice uh pursuant to the open meeting laws I think personally make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that

such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present are deemed acknowledged and permissible start with roll call Chris Boyle here Lewis Forever John Brandt Mickey Riviera James Hornsby and we're missing uh Jim Cusick and Paulo Emerald and we also have tonight with us uh Nina Pavel uh administrative Aid and we have Dan aguiar conservation agent okay first on the list

all business is a request for a certificate of compliance se-24-765 John before you get started can you read the open meeting law stuff I did follow it yeah public comment thing perceived unperceived all that public all right we both missed that I didn't hear it either sorry go ahead yep I can read it again for you no that's okay okay uh is a certificate of compliance se-24-765 owner applicant is Highland

Farms development 2 LLC project location 245 Fieldstone Lane assessors map is U Dash 04-0059 applicant requesting certificate of compliance thing that all work regulated by the order conditions has been satisfactory completed this was tabled from June 5th 2023 meeting anybody here for that you know I had spoke with the engineer previously as same as the last time this petition was being tabled because women's seating

work hadn't been completed then they decided to install a pool which was filed under a separate file number sc24819 so the certificate of compliance will just sit until the pool work and all the final restoration will be done okay recommended table so can I have a motion to tables all moved seconded uh we'll call vote aye aye aye aye aye all right next bonus a notice of intent se-24-817 owner applicant is mellow

estate LLC project location is 1262 Brighton Ave so this is map is j-24-002 followed by Zenith Consulting engineer LLC on behalf of African applicant proposes the removal existing Rock outcrop to establish a contractor's yard with material storage facilities also restoration as opposed within a previously Disturbed Riverfront area and buffer zone as well as cleaning up existing drainage well in Brighton Ave

subject to massdot approval this was tabled by June 5th uh and they asked us if we could table this for the next agenda so can I have a motion to the table before we make the motion um so we've asked them to remove materials prior to this right yep so do we know why they brought more materials onto the property when they've been issued a cease and desist order I do not so in my

report revised plans were submitted today I hadn't met just after the last meeting with the applicant and their engineer went over some ideas that they were incorporating into the new design the issue of the Disturbed area the stockpiled materials that has not been resolved and then additionally today there's a new stockpile of Boulders and multiple pieces of equipment being stored in that

area the rear area this under season decision so the road millings were removed yes was the cease and desist pertaining just to the road millings no because the road millings came in after the season so we don't know why people are bringing more materials onto the property correct he was told not to that's correct so I would say we would have to bring that up at the next next meeting okay

so can I have a motion table so moved the second roll call hi hi okay next is a request for certificate of compliance se-24-788 owner applicants Highland Farms development 2 LLC project location 164 fillstone Lane Assessor's map is u-04-0069 filed by civil and environmental consultant income behalf of applicant the applicant is requesting a certificate in compliance with the exception of final

Bond development on this lot the work authorized under this order has been completed and substantial compliance with the order of condition this was tabled from June 5th 2023 meeting so as stated at the last hearing the applicant has submitted a request for determination of applicability for the construction of a patio shed and fencing on this lot that work once completed would allow them to do the remaining

Lowman seating and restoration work under the order of conditions so later on tonight item number five on a new business is a request for determination for the installation of that patio shed and fence okay Phil I would recommend that you table the matter with regards to the certificate of compliance request okay can I have motions table send it roll call okay next is request for determination of

accessibility 182 owner applicant as Tec Associates project location is mass Coastal railroad right-of-way assessors map n a filed by Tech Associates requesting a determine whether the boundaries of resource areas defeated in the plan and PR Maps referenced as are accurately delineated no work is proposed within Wetland resource areas visitation control will confirm to the guidelines set forth in

Mass right-of-way management regulations 333 CMR 11 and approved by vegetation management plan VMP this was table from June 5th did you want to comment on me no we can wait and see if anybody's here to present for anyone you know what they're in contact with you regarding anything no I guess we'll table the matter until like okay actually if you want you can table it till later in the evening first see if

they come in and then at the end of the night can I have a motion table list to be later a second roll call ing okay um next is a notice of intent se-24-825 owner applicant is Antonio Almeida project location 38 judge Street Assessor's map is y-09-0010 filed by owner property proposing construction of an additional addition to a single-family house table from June 5th there anyone here for that one

if you can just state your name and the address sure

my name is before we get started I if I remember correctly at the last meeting because I think oh you have it all now okay doing cards and legal ad I think that was the issue last time right okay my name is Rami Sudani I work for North County group in Thailand Mass our address is 4 Court Street Suite 102 Dawn I may represent the property owner and filing for a notice of intent for an

addition to a single family house the existing house is built on pier foundation on sonotubes and the proposed Edition will also be built on sonotubes which is a pier Foundation the closest point to the web to the pond is approximately 60 feet to the rear of the Edition and there is no proposed grading on site the septic system is existing it's in the front of the property there's also a vinyl siding sorry vinyl

fence on the Northern northeast side of the property and those wood stockade fence on the Southwestern property line that's that's my presentation all right so before you guys ask some questions after reviewing the plan I had a couple of comments so some revisions that should be made to the plan if the applicant can provide lot coverage calculation of all impervious surfaces provide the survey datum utilized for

the for the survey plan provide a pond flood elevation provide roof runoff infiltration system a note shall be added that there will be no increase in the number of bedrooms to the single family dwelling and this will also need a special permit from the zoning board of appeals and site plan review approval those are just for the applicant's knowledge but with regards to the wellness protection act if we could get

these items added to the plan I see no issue with with the proposal however they would be conditional upon these other items being satisfied I have a copy of the female floodplain it does not have any elevations on it so without what type of pond actually has a pond full elevation this gentleman can tell you exactly what it is 132.4 or something like that but you need to be

on that data you know in order to make that work so you're just going to want to make sure that you've got that information on the plan if you want to call our office tomorrow we can we can provide that information for you oh the only other issue would be that along the side lot lines I would extend the sole fence the hay bales or whatever it's got system was just installed maybe six

months ago yeah is it repaired to the existing little cottage that was there I think once we get this additional information I don't see an issue with why why the application can't go forward so can we prove pending we see the information do we want to wait to receive the information I would wait till you get the information okay I'd like to minimize the amount of conditions on things if at all possible

any other questions from the board so there were six recommendations you've got them all written down you need to I have okay go ahead what are you I looked at it but I was concerned with the with the flood and the runoff and all that and um what are you doing for sewage there are you hooking under City search there's a septic system that was installed approximately six months ago

they installed a new septic system a few months ago right there is no sewer there is no Municipal sewer down there it hasn't gone that far and it's inadequate system yes it's a new one for two for up to a two-bedroom home yes that's why the requirement of no increase in the number of bedrooms would be a condition okay and um how close to the water are you is the home 60 feet

is the closest point to the water yeah so that we would want you to be um extremely careful the I'm told that for example that the uh the deposition levels are not or are still heavy and for example in August the um the Rowing Club is Not which is not too far away is is not permitted to have children in Camp because of the bacteria um and I don't know if the committee this I

was in please don't use and I hope that will be a condition on any fertilizers or weed killers or that sort of thing that might drift into the pond that's in our standard order conditions right but I'm just making I know that but I'm just just 60 feet is is close and I know how how those places were built I live in one myself as a matter of fact so

thank you alrighty so can I have a motion to watch any neighbors any anybody any Butters anyone okay um motion to table so move second roll call all right all right hi hi all righty next is a notice of intent owner of African 52 Ferry LLC project location 52 Ferry Street Assessor's map is n-14-005 filed by applicant applicant proposals the construction of new 96 uh slip Marina and full yard for vessels

ranging to 24 to 60 feet in transit dockage public fishing pier and uh walkway this was tabled from June 5th 2023 uh we don't have a uh file number but you can present to us I'm attorney Mark l11 138 Rock Street for the mass chairman members of the board I first like to present to the clerk so she'll have it for her file the receipt notices

hello today uh what I'm here to present with my client because we feel that unfortunately uh our my clients engineer had a serious injury uh recently with some hospital and it took him a little while to get a document to dep and apparently during the time that he was out his office did not transmit the plan the revised plan you had which eliminated the traveliff area which was their concern to whether or not there

would be any storm water requirements so we believe we hope that that suffices their their needs I believe we my client transmitted that letter to the board so that they have that for their records so what I'm here to do because my client will do really in-depth stuff because he knows this stuff because he's been in the business for a long time I'm just going to focus on the Wetland protection

act uh chapter 131 section 40 in the rivers protection act that your jurisdiction leads to as you all know my client has the marina next door uh Gordon light he's going to expand this to include additional Mariner activities the property itself he'll give you the history of it as to whether or not the client is going to affect a protected resource the simple answer is no the the property was an Industrial and

Commercial news property for over 180 years it lasts company that manufactured light and heavy oil mixtures and it would be transported by land and by sea it was a there's a terminal Pier an old Pia there and from years and years and years that's what this property was my client has some pictures to show you what that area was now this development is allowed in this area because it's a water

dependent business and that's what this area you're supposed to promote and that's what the river racks does not only that but the city of Fall River changed their bylaws about eight years ago to make this area a warmer area to have businesses that are dependent on that no so the resource that you're looking for is to have this type of resource that is for both recreational and Commercial uses

most of my clients is going to be recreational but he is going to revamp the old terminal Pier which will be used for recreational fishing area for the community it would be Public Access and also have some slips for commercial boats so that they could have to it and when I say commercial boats there may be a fisherman will come in to unload his fish to sell real Market here or someone that's just coming in for

some dockage now if you look at the waterfront and what's happening today Route 79 is almost completely down the city and state spend 210 million dollars in order to eliminate that barrier between the city and the Waterfront and the whole purpose is that the public from the city will have access to the Waterfront freely and easily my clients providing an area that will have access to that Waterfront and

has a public access across the property itself or will be now this property as you know is not in a designated shellfish area it's not protected so you're not saving a resource for shellfish uh you would have had to require under your bylaws in the state law to to map out where the shellfish were it doesn't make that area on a mapping system so that people would know that that's never been done the

reason why is because this part of the river's been closed for 70 years for any shellfish so there's no shellfish that is a resource to the public and it's not significant if there happen to be some muscles or something growing at the bottom because they're not harvested at all um the other thing is that this is not a public water supply obviously the river is not being used as brackish water and

it is only used for sea life there's no wild habitat there you go to this property you'll see it's a gravel piece of land it used to have some industrial structures on the thing you don't see uh trees with birds that are on there or anything else you don't see anything but a graveled pervious material that just allows water to soak through into the ground the only thing you have out there

is the rip wrap and the walk my client intends to maintain and make repairs as necessary you don't have a beachfront area you don't have a tide area there's no area where Wildlife would exist on this property actually the river's act as you are aware is for you to make the termination of my clients project will be orderly in a foster the use of water properly so that it's maintained the interesting part

about this is that my client is actually not building anything I'm a land it runs from the rip wrapping wall out my client by law is allowed to build up to the hundred foot buffer from the channel line and that's based on a state requirement and yes he will be applying through dep for chapter 91 license and the Corps of Engineers to construct that so they'll be overseeing the construction that is off the property in

the water now is this as a protected Wetland no there's no Wetlands here there's no vegetation to disturb uh there's no beachfront to disturb there's no filling that my client is doing the limited use on land is really just to repair the maintenance of the rip wrap in the wall and the only thing he's going to be doing would be to add utilities that will go down to the docks they will be

on the ground and they the the ground will be set back to its normal place and graded so that these the gravel you would not know anyone was there they're just going to be graveled back over to it uh as a property cause any significant change to the storm war that now exists now this is going to be pocket all you're going to do is Cars come out there they're going to park there and like I

said other than the installation excuse me you will think what sir parking parking okay ah thank you oh it's going to be on there I just missed the word no that's fine the only use is pocket that's the only thing that for the gravel area in the graveled area so that because there most of the time well my client would hope so but you never know so would I if I if I were

running the place yeah and that'll be open to the public like I said because there'll be a public fishing peonies changing over to the terminal area the the term will appear in access to commercial uh boats um so that's one of the things that he's going to benefit there he is putting a sanitary pump system in there now that'll be similar to the project he has next door that'll be a barge in the

outside of the perimeter of this property and not on land people will be able to pump and not only will it be just for my clients my clients use of boats but this is going to be a public pumpkin facility so not only does that provide his client on his loans stuff owners the ability to use it but it'd be for the public which will also hope that's ground depth to tour some

expenses in the city of Peru may have by maintaining these pump boats they may not eliminate them completely but it certainly cause them not to have to be out there as often or to limit the number of votes they would need as they're required by law that's what I really have to really focus you into what this is I'm going to let my client take over to go over because you know he's been in the

business for a long time you see the marina down there it's well operated it's an asset to the community and it brings what the whole city has been trying to do is develop the Waterfront so it's useful to its Community not just to a few industrial uses thank you thank you ah thank you board for affording this opportunity to come before you today uh this has been a uh a long time project that's finally coming to

fruition uh I think Mark said it best uh the under the wetlands Act and the waterways act they're under their Authority and purpose over the legislative standards that they adopted it specifically says that the Commonwealth is to ensure that the tidelands are utilized only for water dependent uses or otherwise serve a proper public purpose and under Section D of the waterways this is under their Authority and

purpose their whole goal is to support public and private efforts to revitalize unproductive property along Urban waterfronts in a manner that promotes public use and enjoyment of the water and I would suggest to you I actually had a blow up that no project does this more than what you have before you uh as my attorney mentioned it has been heavily industrialized for over 180 years this particular piece

has been so industrialized that it does not have any of the eight statutory protected resources uh it does not degrade any other current conditions which is required by dep but rather creates a window to the Waterfront which is dep's sole Mission so for the sake of having it made I figured I'd at least see it because we all know it but this goes back to 1840.

and this is the bottom of Ferry Street and as you can see in 1840 American linen already had a large building for their industrial use uh and since 1840 it's been a variety of things uh the most recently was an oil terminal where Oil came in by barges was recycled in the left bike truck that oil terminal went out of business and closed down and I would suggest to you that under the statute

that seems to be an unproductive property and what we're here before you is to revitalize that the property um the issue when constructing uh on the water below mean high water is does the land under the ocean or the land containing shellfish now statutorily again 310 CMR 912 the proposed project is a water dependent use and a water dependent use is described as marinas Boat Basin

channels areas or other commercial and recreational boating facilities and what that means is if you are a water dependent use you are allowed to do these activities even if the land does contain shellfish however the statue asks and the standard is that the construction method takes into account efforts to minimize the impact should the land containing shellfish be what's designated as significant

and what I would suggest to you is the land under the ocean as is not significant statue is a very clear CMR 1034 the area containing shellfish must be significant by regulation containing shellfish shall be found significant to the protection of the land containing shellfish when it has been identified and mapped as followed by the local Conservation Commission or the department in consultation with the def

or by the conservation or Department based upon maps and written documentation of the shellfish constable and here's the important department in making such identification factors shall be taken into account and documented the density of the shellfish the size of the area and the historic and current importance of the area to recreational and Commercial shellfishing there has not been any Recreation or commercial

shellfishing in this area of the proposed project for over 75 to 80 years so therefore you cannot deem land containing shelters as significant and therefore uh you can't under the reg it is our opinion you cannot limit the construction of this particular proposal based on that and the statute even goes on further to say if you were to determine it's significant but it's a water dependent use it must it can still

go forward so even if you from a practical matter from a two-prong approach this proposal in front of you is allowed to happen in that Basin but I would suggest you I think all of us have some knowledge that there hasn't been any uh shellfishing along Ash was for a very very long time um I think council did an excellent job identifying it the performance stands for Riverfront area are the protection

and public interest private water supply groundwater wildlife habitat Fisheries shellfish flooding storm damage and pollution we don't check off any of those boxes and in fact the proposal by the construction of the outer Breakwater actually helps with flooding and helps with storm damage because it acts as a barrier should a storm come up the bay before the water actually gets to the Shoreline um this site is

I think will be a wonderful window for not only the marina Customs but also the citizenship of the city which for years for a long time almost 200 have been shut off from this area and I respectfully ask that you uh Grant on order conditions as the first step before we go before as Council said the waterways division dep in chapter 91 and also the Army Corps of Engineers so this is essentially what

we envisioned so this is looking back at the city to your right is the existing Marina and this is the proposed Marina that's on your document um this will be public docking here the pier that Council mentioned is the existing peel I believe constructed back in 1940 that'll be on the other side and it's rather significant and it's in the Cove between my uh a butter boardington Remington and myself

this is just a different perspective because people often ask well where is it so this is coming down Ferry Street this is Almond Street and this is the old uh Quaker Factory this is the existing Marina this is the piece that uh we are looking to have before you well would you be kind enough to show it to the left field here you go let's see your body was where is the the Ferry Street the new

term the nove Pier so right here is Ferry Street this all is pre-existing this is the proposed that you have in front of you okay and just money for me to do the follow-up and how many where will people fish so there's an existing Pier here yeah there is and our plan is that needs to be rebuilt and our plan is to open that up and make it for public fishing

oh not on the new pier no not in the nuclear um these will be private the public does not have the access to walk down those things there'll be no charge for the public place no no that's the original terminals where they used to come in okay I simply misread it I had visions of standing on your new pier and casting out but uh okay there's uh also a did we get a number

for this no no no no we're hoping that tomorrow as I mentioned earlier uh Jim Hall who's the engineer at valve had an accident a few weeks ago he was hospital that's a yes no question yeah we don't have it today we're hoping thank you a couple of quick questions if you don't mind how many slips over on them 96.

and you've got a public pump out station currently it's right there right so that'll be for your transient as well as your existing we we did that uh out of our own funds rather than a grant and that was will continue to be open to the public okay that's so that's existing now that's existing now and that does that utilize city services do you dump into the city nutrition system so that

goes through a pipe and goes into the city sewer system and we also allow the city's pump out boat to utilize that it was a CSO I'll pipe in that area correct yeah that's right is that that's been eliminated that's offline or is it still potential still there it's still active it's still active and I think he could probably tell you it's one of the largest in the city yeah I'm just

concerned how that's going to impact your it's right here your operations it's under this pier right um and with this project doesn't uh involve any dredging no I understand yeah it it didn't uh Paul could attest to it it's really only an issue when we get a serious rain event um so when it's a serious rain event usually takes eight to ten days to kind of bring the water back in serious rain

events there's not too many borders of public down around which it's it's funny it's valid that you bring it up but I think that goes more to the shellfish issue in the sense that this is right it does I understand that nobody's picking shellfish near the city I understand does the board have any other questions I Know Dan you had some yeah is there any neighbors anybody any Butters favor or opposed

so a month ago I sat down with Mr London over the first plans that were submitted ask for a few items to be added to the plans which some of them have been we received revised plans on Thursday I just got them today because I was off last week so I would like the opportunity to sit down with Mr London as engineer to nothing regulation wise it's strictly detail-oriented with regards to the plans and information

that should be on the plan set when nothing that would preclude you from from voting once you get a file number I've actually I've called dep myself to discuss with the gentleman that's reviewing this um when the hold up for the file number had to do with the storm water management report that he was requiring to be submitted so the applicant hasn't been able to appease him as of this afternoon

so again as attorney 11 stated trying to get this result for tomorrow um hopefully so we'll we'll know better for that so I think tabling it for one month will give us the opportunity to get some really tightened up plans get the final comments in from dep a file number of course we did get a letter from Department of marine fisheries some of the comments a valid some I I think are

not applicable to this location we have also received a letter from the Harbor Master stating that he had no opposition for the project those are two of my initial concerns and then that'll give us some time to draft up some potential conditions you don't get these often the vote will improve on so I think I think we're close regulation wise we're we're very close so it's just dotting highs

and Crossing teams and getting a file number from dep I have one question though on the aerial is the last barge missing from that picture is there going to be one coming out from Gordon light correct the one that turns that corner currently yeah that's actually coming out this spring and being replaced by this same system and that will remain in place until this comes in because right now

this is all exposed exposed to the north but ultimately it'll be openly ultimately uh that piece will then get incorporated into what you see out here is that the same system that Bristol has built in there it's the same it's the same company okay uh but it's a little different because I have substantially deeper water and this will be pile held as opposed to that's Mooring Health okay

yeah but it's the it's the same company and for all intensive parent uh intents and purposes it will almost look exactly the same with the difference of the pile sticking out no it was if I was there Friday Thursday or Friday and it was very nice coming in from the water yeah due to the depth we're doing pile based good and just so you know Mike didn't mention it but the they're

putting a I mean if they were shellfish that we had to worry about the design of how they were now put into the ground is a newer procedure where it doesn't Splat out over the area and Transit down so it just drops in instead of having large areas that are Disturbed uh if we were able to conserving us so we have a motion in the table so move from table oh sorry table

I we have Motion in the table Yeah okay roll call hi all right all right all right all right thank you find out when Jim's available okay I talked to him he's still a little sore yeah you know he's trying the best he can but yeah I told me that not Superman anymore you can't leave the files of stairs and expect a land straight up he's better in the morning yeah no that's all right

thank you it's thank you for coming you're hurt looking at him yeah that's not good thank you yep thanks all right next uh notice of intent is se-24-824 owner applicant is Carla Diego uh project location 14 Brookfield Terrace this was map is u-04-0064 filed by Northeast engineer and consultant on behalf African the applicant is proposing to install a shed on the northwest corner of the property

all the proposed work is located within the 100 foot buffer zone of it ordering vegetated Wetlands this was tabled from June 5th okay good evening for the record Jeff Tallman from Northeast engineers and Consultants here representing College Iago the applicant on this notice of intent um and the reason we file this just to give you a little background I mean we are just looking to construct a shed at this

point a 10 by 14 shed that would be located um on the back right side of the property adjacent to the existing Stone retaining wall when she initially approached me she was considering putting it in a pool as well um but her primary concern at this time is to get the shed in so we remove the the pool from The Proposal um and she had already you know paid the

filing fees to give me the check for the following fees so we just decided to move forward the notice of intent rather than try to do an RDA um but as you can see there's very uh small amount of work that's proposed there it's just isolated in that one corner of the property the shed itself is going to be put on four concrete supports at Each corner I'm sorry I think they might be six

there's probably one in the middle as well um just signing two is put into the ground to pull up concrete put the shed on it and uh and that's it it's pretty basic pretty straightforward there's not a lot to it okay you happy to answer any questions it doesn't involve relocating anything that's on the site now it's all within the limit of work that was previously established when the when the lot was developed

I have no issues any issue with the board questions okay can I have a motion to uh any of Butters okay can I have a motion to approve seconded

thank you next is a notice of intent se-24-822 owner applicant Commonwealth the mass department of fish fish and game city of Fall River uh project location zero Sheridan Street substance map is e-25-0049 filed by LEC environmental on behalf of applicants proposed project includes upgrading assisting storm water drainage infrastructure increased functionability and improve water

quality in south of Tampa Pond this was tabled by a table from June 5th

thank you um is it possible to hook into the computer you often find that we don't have matching inputs and outputs

good oh great okay let's see here thank you uh members of the commission Mr chairman for the record Nate gosh karian with LEC environmental presenting on behalf of the applicant in this case it is the city of Fall River the project that we're presenting tonight is the construction of a new stormwater Basin at the South watapa Pond boat ramp uh this is going to be replacing a dilapidated storm water Swale which

currently exists on site this project is funded by an MVP Grant I'll get into the project the sightness of the project itself but um this is funded by an MVP Grant which is a municipal vulnerability preparedness Grant which basically the overarching intent of that is simply to enhance the water quality that is going back into Southwest Pond as well as the Watershed so a little bit about the

property this is the South watapa Pond boat ramp located on the Northwestern Shoreline of South watapa pond it's about 5.2 acres in size and it features a rather large parking lot which is connected to the boat ramp which extends about 75 feet Southwest into or Southeast into Southwest Harbor Pond also on the site are undeveloped forested wetlands and undeveloped forested Uplands the protected Wetland

resource areas that are on or within 100 feet of this property include ordering vegetative Wetlands Bank to Southwest Harbor Pond and bordering lands subject to flooding so rolling over to the existing conditions I just want to point out the Wetland resource areas that we delineated and as they're demarcated on the plan we have in green the boarding vegetative Wetlands to the South also to

the north to the Northeast and then in blue the bank which runs landward of the rip rap here we have the proposed conditions of the storm water basin um let's zoom in a little bit the moon the main components of these include the stone diaphragm a sediment four bay of course the Basin itself and the outlet right in here and then the mitigation measures that are going to be implemented during construction include

silt fence around the construction site as well as silt sock which will also be surrounding any stockpiles that will be on the property during the time of construction of the basin that's all I have for my presentation happy to answer any questions Paul Ferlin administrator of community utilities hope and see water and sewa this project has come up uh in relation to the water quality studies that we've

been doing on the south what type of pond to be able to improve the water quality there was four projects that were identified in a phase one study that we did on the south with tapa this being one uh another one being near Cherry Lane off of Lake Avenue uh third one being in Westport originally on tickle road we moved it to Plymouth Ave area in Westport and also the sucker Brook uh stream and Wetland

improvements as it comes through in relation to this particular project this was identified to be able to reduce the phosphate phosphorus and nutrient loading the runoff that comes from the lodge parking lot area there originally when this parking lot was constructed there was there was some very very small remediation that was done on the site what was required at the time to be able

to construct it this is a little bit larger we'll remove more of those phosphorus and nutrients this is an example project what we're using as an example project for many projects that's going to be needed around the South with up a pond to improve the water quality as well as in pond treatments and other things we're moving forward with the study of South with Tupper Pond we're in

our third year of sampling this year we have UMass on board to continue out sampling with himself a tougher Pond hopefully within within the future we'll be back to this board for treatment uh potentially within the pond also involves other permitting as required but that's uh a little ways off in the future but again in relation to this project um we did receive an MVP Grant so Municipal vulnerability preparedness

Grant which funded most of this work uh and the balance of the funding the 25 match came from Bristol County Opera funds that were allocated To Us by the city council so all this works of hasn't cost the city anything no that doesn't mean anything to the consultation commission but just a little bit of a background about this project how this project came up came about um the actual property is owned by fish and game

um under the dcrumbrella so we have been in contact with them they are they are on board with this project okay any questions from the board I just have three small comments and very similar to the last one that was on the same Pond sorry if I missed it but if you could provide the survey datum flood elevation of the pond and then also through the area where there is no curb if some guardrail could be

installed in that location I think there's one section that there is no no curving at all and then my last question is really not permitting related is there funding in place to build this not as of yet we're looking to apply for Grants uh there are other opportunities that we're looking at so snap Grant uh is a possible opportunity for construction MVP they've been excited about this project and this reported us

so we're looking at funding opportunities for construction but permitting was part of the MVP grant that we did have in place I think it's important that you all understand so Paul and I deal with all of the different developments throughout the city and not just this water body but wherever we can we are requiring people to propose some type of phosphorus reduction in their designs even to the

smallest extent even when they're wreck you know renovating build big Mill complexes there's always some level of improvement so I have to get some credit to Paul and his group for putting his mouth where his money is and uh our opposite money where his mouth is eventually and implementing that type of you know production and Improvement in a location like this that's all right I don't know if there's anybody here in

favor or opposed anybody here okay it's okay one quick question how would um how would I look at your study is it online or yep so if you go to uh the watuppa reserve.com so that's a website that the water department uh and Sewer Department might Providence maintain uh and we have all these studies and PowerPoint presentations so far that we've done uh in relation to the South what type of

pond we also have a lot of information about the buyer reserve and different things out there so that's what Tupa reserve.com oh is that all one small letters yep although a case one all one word no spaces thank you and I Echo what our agent said right so can I have a motion issue in order conditions second uh roll call all right all righty thank you very much thank you okay moving on uh new business request

for a certificate of compliance se-24-787 owner applicants Highland Farms development 2 LLC the project locations 91 Fieldstone Lane Assessor's map is u-04-00525 by civil environmental consultant and on behalf applicant the applicant is requesting a certificate of compliance with the exception of a final law and development on this lot and work authorized under this order completed in

substantial compliance with order condition anybody here for this one I I went out and did a site visit this morning the work is substantially complete the as built plan itself needed a few minor revisions which we can be waiting for but no issue no issue with you issuing the certificate of compliance okay should we ask for a certificate of compliance uh when it has Bill plans come in no you can I

revised and I can hold them up for the occupancy permit to get those in in-house but the work is actually complete is the engineers deficiency so any questions on the board gonna have a motion to uh Grant a certificate of compliance and seconded roll call hi hi hi hi alrighty uh next is request of a certificate of compliance se-24-695 owner applicants Nantucket Sound Seafood project location 1375

Airport Road assessors map is z-03-0108 five bucks civil environmental consultant Inc on behalf of the applicant the applicant has requesting a certificate of compliance with the exceptional final law development and final top layer of asphalt on this site the work authorized under this order has been completed and substantial compliance with the order condition anybody here for that project so on June

23rd I made a site visit uh sent in email with a punch list of items that needed to be completed that I went back again and looked at today some of those have been completed and I'm assuming that because they're not here this evening that we'll be waiting to get that revised plan some of it was substantial enough that I wouldn't wouldn't want you to issue the certificate without the work being

completed a lot of it had to do with rip rap and stuff that wasn't installed so a lot of stormwater items okay a motion table sailboat the second roll call hi hi hi alrighty next was a request for a certificate compliance se-24-783 owner applicant city of Fall River Project south of Maritime Street at Westport lime assessors map n a filed by VHB on behalf of applicant the applicant is requesting a certificate of

compliance the project is compliance with order conditions the site was stabilized erosion control were removed and disposed of the site May 2023 so this was the extension uh what we call the Westport spur of the quick Shan rail trail work has all been completed side slopes have been stabilized I've been on it two or three times already walking it's it's pretty well done so I recommend you issue the certificate of

compliance anybody here for that okay so can I have a motion to a certificate of compliance so we'll see roll call hi hi oh okay um next is a local acquisition of for natural diversity land program submitted by Department of Community utilities requesting to approve and endorse land grant by DCU wishes to acquire the 7.1 acre conservation land portion of Adirondack farms located on Boston Road good evening again

so uh Department of Community utilities with the water department uh under the water department we've been working to acquire property uh adirond known as Adirondack Farm uh in Fall River uh this is a key piece of property for us in relation to Watershed protection it is also a key property for us in relation to what we're going to be using it as as for the front portion in the future as a Biore Discovery Center

so Educational Center and uh in a kind of a welcome mat to the bioreve so the property was acquired with uh with multiple different funding sources uh and it was put up into two portions um there's 7.1 acres in the rear of the property uh and that was uh used funding from the land grant through EO eea was used for the purchase of that as well as CPC funding was also used for that 7.1

Acres the area towards the front where the house is in the bond and the other structures there was Opera funding and a state emoc that was used allocated towards the purchase of that portion so what we were looking for so underneath the land grant program and Mike will go into depth but the Conservation Commission needs to essentially uh take possession of that piece of property so

we're asking the Conservation Commission to be able to take possession in the back 7.1 Acres we've already gone through with the closing on the deed and all the other instruments during the closing it was labeled at the Conservation Commission of Kingdom custody of that rear portion and the water department have uh camera custody of the front two plus acres so that's how it was divided up what was

provided to you and there's a couple other things so I'll turn it over to Mike and kind of let him drive through the whole entire uh I'll tell you what we were asking for thank you Commission foreign so this was a um it was actually an 820 000 purchase uh and uh this grant represented uh two two a little over two hundred and sixty thousand dollars toward that purchase uh it was specifically for the conservation land

uh the 7.1 Acres as Paul mentioned and um there's three three elements that need to be uh completed and actually signed off by the Conservation Commission tonight uh the first is the project agreement and this kind of stipulates what um uh with the uh with the eoea uh what what you know what what the conservation um uh values are and um the and how we are going to uh manage those conservation values uh in order to

um uh to have Fidelity with the with the program um so that's that's the first um uh a um document that that you would have before you tonight um the second is a billing form and that simply is our uh enables us to um basically get our the reimbursement we've we've paid we've paid in advance for the for the fund for the property obviously and the billing form uh requires to be signed in order to get

the reimbursement from the state the Third element is the Land Management plan and it is in some respects a a and as uh it has photographs showing both the uh um the uh the boundary um this the property has been surveyed obviously and um the you know photo documenting the different boundaries there's uh ancient stone bounds there's uh neutral marks stonewalls and so forth as well as some of the uh current

conditions of the fields um it's 7.1 Acres of really wonderful Upland Fields there are not only Wetlands on this on this um property uh it's been a farm for over 150 years and stateless in soils and um so the management plan will pretty much identify what the conservation values are it will allow continued farming if that should be the the direction that the um the education center will go in it'll

certainly be uh you know available to uh to to to to do uh you know to pursue farming uses but it will remain conservation land so uh you know it'll be grassland um for the most part open grassland contiguous to other forests that's owned by the city of Fall River as well as very nearly contiguous to the the shoreline of the Northwest upper as well it's got just tremendous uh natural diversity and adjacent to

Natural diversity so it's um so these are the three forms that we would ask the Conservation Commission signatures on tonight if you have any questions so just on top of that too we've also drafted an mou which will provide to the commission to be voted on at a later date essentially for uh you know we know the Conservation Commission doesn't have staff or anything to be able to take

care of that so what we've done in the past with some properties that we've acquired this way is we've bought a department we've done an mou with the Conservation Commission that allows us to be able to manage and maintain the property and you know there's a lot of amazing maintenance that's going to need to be done in the future so that mou is just a document that kind of solidifies in in

you know momentifies the uh the agreement that we'll maintain the property any questions no okay can I have a motion to uh endorse the projects second roll call I I I thank you both very much will you work on this like and uh if anybody's been out there it's a beautiful piece of property it's beautiful every Center the potential is incredible um very fortunate in the city to you know live

in a city where more than half was forested and now we have an area for age interpretation education it's a great idea and Mike's work diligent land this but I know what Paul's support uh tireless advocate for this so I just want to thank Mike great work that's done right it's a big step forward it's really significant where are we at with conservation restrictions pending a meeting with the attorney

upstairs yeah it's been going on for a while the pending has been yes the conversation not so much so could we get these actually physically signed tonight if you want to wait till after the meeting yeah thank you thank you very much alrighty next is a request of determination of accessibility 183 owner applicant is Fatima Xavier project location 164 Fieldstone Lane assessments map is

u-04-0069 filed by Northeast engineer and consultant on behalf of applicant the applicant is proposing to install 810 previous favorite walkway and Patio an 8x10 shed 85 foot by six High stockade fence and a 80 foot by four foot high chain link fence with previous establishments Limited of work uh there's no about a notification yeah

okay so uh good evening again Jeff Tallman from Northeast engineers and Consultants here representing Xavier um I'm sorry Fatima Xavier the applicant for this requested determinant of applicability um so what we're looking to do here is we're just um she's looking to put in a walkway and Patio was the primary thing she was looking to get done with this project it's going to be made out of papers previous papers

um it's going to be I believe five feet wide coming along the back of the the side of the house which would be on the uh I believe it would be the the West the south and west of the house and then to the north um would be where the patio portion would be and then in the back she's hoping to put a eight by ten shed similar to the last application that would be adjacent to

the existing Stone Wall located at the rear um and then that would be again supported on concrete piles similar to the last project and the other thing she's looking to do is install a stockade fence uh I'm sorry a vinyl fence I have it labeled Stockade but it's going to be a vinyl fence that comes off the house about halfway down next to where the uh I believe there's an electrical meter

there come off the house there and go down the property line until you get to the stone wall the stone retaining wall at the rear of the property then at that point she's just looking to fence the remainder of the yacht in back of the house because she does have dogs and she you know like an area where she you know they'd be contained back there without the ability to get down into the Wetland

and stuff like that so um that's basically in a nutshell I'd be happy to answer any questions that the commission might have do we have any questions no all the workforce within the previous limit of work and the uh the COC that was handing out it's still sitting out there for that so I recommend approval with a negative discrimination box three okay so can I have a motion for a approval on

negative determination box three so move second roll call all right thanks thank you was there anyone here for that nope okay uh notice of intent owner applicant Brian Bentley uh greater forward vocational school project location 251 Stonehaven Road Assessor's map is l-19-220-001 filed by Niche engineering on behalf of the applicant the project includes demolition of the existing School

building so Associated site features and construction of a new school building Associated site work site work will include instruction of a new parking lot driveway filled athletes pedestrian walkaways utility service and new storm water management system um we don't have your file number yet but you can do your presentation good evening everyone Mr chairman my name is Joshua Soares with Niche

engineering the project civil engineer I'm joined tonight by Brittany Ferber the project engineer also with Mitch and behind me Craig Olson with Casey booze Associates the project architect we're here tonight on behalf of the applicant the greater Fall River Vocational School District to support the noi application for work within the 100 foot buffer zone to a forested quarter and vegetated

Wetland associated with the new construction of the new diamond high school project for context I'm sure most are familiar with the diamond high school and its location but it is located at 251 Stonehaven Road and was founded by Stonehaven road to the West Locust Street to the North Route 24 to the East and the water department land in Bedford Street to the South I'm going to hand it

over now to Brittany to discuss the existing and proposed conditions so just to orient you a little bit um North is on the left side of the page so this is Lucas Street here and then Stonehaven Street is here as Josh said we have bordering vegetated Wetlands on our site or near our site and that is located right here at the northeast corner the existing School building is on the

western portion of the site here and we are proposing to put the new school building where the existing football field is right here so that we can construct it while the existing School building is still functioning once this building is constructed the existing building will be demolished and the rest of the site will be completed the site is just over 33 Acres so it's pretty big and we are proposing to

increase impervious area on the site by about 3.3 Acres this is a zoom in of the site where we actually have that hundred foot buffer so you can see the Wetland lined up here then we have the 25 foot no disturb shown here and the 100 foot buffer here this dash dot line represents the limit of work and what we propose to disturb within that 100 foot buffer this is the

existing condition shown here so you can see it's mostly pervious area and we have two areas where there are bleachers on top of concrete pads right now in the proposed condition you can see we're going to keep most of that area as previous area but we are proposing to regrade and then stabilize the slopes we're keeping that work outside of the 25 foot no disturb area but we will have

to regrade up up to here the two to one slopes in this area will be finished with riprap and the three to one slopes will be seated with grass

we're going to talk a little bit about erosion control this is for the entire site we're going to have perimeter control and construction fencing around the outside we'll have stabilized construction entrances along Stone Haven Road and Locust Street for contractor access to the site we'll have Inlet protection at all existing and proposed inlets to the drainage system steep slope stabilization and then we'll

also have some sediment Basin shown here and here for a closer look at the area around the 100 foot buffer we have a drainage Swale temporary drainage Swale for the construction period located just at the top of the slope and along the 100 foot buffer to the Wetland and this is going to insert intercept runoff from the construction site and bring it to the South to sediment Basin located here this will

allow us to remove some of that TSS total suspended solids from the storm water runoff before it's discharged into the Wetland in that interim condition before we have our full storm water management system built out and you can see these two slopes that I pointed out before that are a little steeper will have that steep slope stabilization on them so the last thing that we're going to

touch on for now is our storm water management system so this is a large site in the existing condition we don't really see much storm water control we don't have any treatment for the storm water or Peak rate mitigation so we are proposing a robust storm water management system to provide both of those our main discharge point for the site is the Wetland here at the northeast corner

of the site we have stormwater runoff that goes over land to Stonehaven Road here and Locust Street here both of those eventually discharged to this Wetland as well through Overland flow so the the Wetland really is our main design point there is a small portion of the site along the South that does run off to the South but it's most the majority of it is up here when we look at our design points we're

looking at each of them individually and then as a total as well so the site is within an outstanding resource water area and a Zone B so we are providing the stormwater treatment required of that which I'll get into in a little bit so in the existing condition I'm just going to flip back here real fast you can see these blue lines that I have shown here are where we have our

existing discharge points to the Wetland so we have a culvert that discharges here two concrete swales here a pipe discharge here and then let me come back to this there was a head wall with a pipe discharge here as well in the proposed condition we are looking to consolidate that we're going to maintain this existing Culvert and then connect to it Upstream of the 100 foot buffer and then we're going to remove

these four discharge locations and consolidate it into one main discharge so the pink squares shown on this site plan are our subsurface infiltration systems so we have six of them we have one below a field here one below the football field here three below the parking and driveways it's kind of hard to tell this is a long linear one as well and then one on the lower area of the site here and then this

purple circle is a buyer retention basin so we're using the subsurface infiltration systems and the buyer retention Basin to remove our pollutants so we're removing the TSS and removing the phosphorus we are getting over 80 percent TSS removal and over 60 phosphorus removal before we discharge and we're infiltrating a significant amount of water using these systems so we're also reducing the peak rate of

runoff to this Wetland by a pretty significant amount um and then just to zoom in a little bit closer on that area for the 100 foot buffer you can see these two areas highlighted in pink that's where the storm water will be discharging to the Wetland again this one is an existing connection that we're maintaining and we're connecting upstream and then this will be a new one that we're stabilizing

with the Rick wrap apron and with that I would like to ask you guys if you have any questions for us Michael Paul so that Wetland David is that discharge into the Interceptor basin Basin then leads to south of Tucker or so yeah acrosses

yep and that's a messed up dot owned Culvert and we've had interactions with them regarding any required State access permits or storm water permits to discharge to that Culvert and they've confirmed that no state permitting is required previous service on three point close uh 3.2 3.3 will that be directed that also everything is going to be directed towards this or will some be directed to the city's

sewage system on Stonehaven or is it all going to go back to um the majority of the site ends up coming to this Wetland there's a very it's a pretty insignificant amount that ends up going to the South but it is mostly coming to this Wetland here yeah there's actually no closed Drainage Systems in the surrounding streets so It ultimately kind of drains along the gutter lines and into the site drainage

system anyways through the curb cuts um there's the parcel located along Locust Street um that is at the northeast corner where you know there's a pretty steep gradient down Locust Street and the roadway runoff actually just kind of traverses right through the Locust Street right of way and even portions of their driveway but ultimately makes it into the Wetland Willow wetland you know like a Peak rain event will let

them be able to hold a to take in what it takes you now with the addition of the three or three we're reducing the the rate of runoff going there is there radio is the volume reduced as well um I can double check that for you I don't yeah it is but I have to imagine and I missed it what was the total TSS that you're going to eliminate prior to entering the well

so for the annual loading of TSS we're reducing it by 80 85 86.60 compared to the 80 requirement and we're providing 61 total phosphorus removal um compared to the 50 total phosphorus required and that's all per the local and the ms4 water treatment requirement it's safe to say that no phosphate removal is is existing excuse me at this time how large is there any TSS non-existent correct

since you have that drawing up and I haven't walked out there myself but I will um is there the ability to prove uh to improve on the existing outfall that you're keeping like what's at the end is there fluid in is there is this one down here yeah it's so it's basically interconnected through the um a concrete channel from one Culvert to the next the D.O.T owned um it there's no flared end it's

basically just a Square Face head wall um you know we can coordinate that further if if we think any other Paul knows it better than I do so he'll be reviewing this as well as you know um and that's something we hadn't talked about yet but I just didn't know what yeah any um restoration or um you know energy dissipators we could we could discuss that further but again just based off

our analysis where we we know that we're reducing the peak flows and volumes that um we understand there's no flooding concerns in this area and therefore we haven't really evaluated it further for any Downstream um issues and this will handle rooftop run off as well yeah exactly so in order to when you analyze the site such a large site and you consider the um phosphorus reduction requirements you

you really need to break up things in certain ways so the site is actually pretty wonky if you're familiar with it so the the field is much lower than the the developed side of the existing abilities so the the new building kind of plays into that where actually the main entrance is on the second level um and the Eastern portion is kind of recessed a little bit towards the wetlands so we've almost kind of broken

up the stormwater systems um playing to that where the Western discharges or rather the the Western portions of the building group discharged to the high side on the west and then um the Eastern side of the building on the low side just drive just to the east so that's why you see it kind of broken down and and those linear infiltration trenches um are designed basically to get us that remaining water quality

treatment required because most of the water quality treatment is gonna it'll actually be developed from the the roadway vehicular surfaces and not so much the building group but you still need to treat that okay so what's important for you guys to understand is if you go back to the very first slide very small portion of this project Falls within the jurisdiction of the wellness protection so they're being

great improvements made to this site not only with the school yeah without looking at that but we're looking at the way storm water is being handled and the expense to do so a lot of it we would require any way through site plan review but with regards to your authority over this it's it's very limited so we don't have a file number um so I would I would recommend that we

wait till one gets issued and in that meantime we can give it our thorough review and clean bill of health before the next meeting approval that night motion the table I don't know if anybody's here in favor sure so we understand that construction is expected to begin in the fall um in the October November time frame um

will be actually outside of this where they're what they'll be doing building temporary parking lots because we will have to take up some parking to open the building and so you'll see work starting early but the actual construction of the school building won't happen until later there's some initial work for temporary improvements to get ready for construction that should be happening

relatively soon before this construction begins I think

no most of that the increase is associated with the increased building footprint of the new Building compared to existing and also the additional parking areas which are North compared to the um the water department lands in Bedford Street

right so based on the construction phase and you need to keep the students occupied in the existing building so the um you know phase one is essentially the new building construction providing that temporary parking um leave the demolition of the existing building will begin somewhere around correctly around 20 the summer of 2020.

I think that would be 2025 and then uh it's safely debate and dispose of any hazardous materials from the existing school and then they would demolish it and then begin the construction of the new parking lots and as long as it doesn't rain schedule will stand good luck type your name and address for the record but I usually right across from the current auto body and I've gotten so

many I mean you have no idea traffic in my yard all the time and everything else so I'm like what now um you know um flowing if it comes up I think you'll be glad to see that most of the shop locations are now at the rear of the building so you won't even see them now you'll see you'll see landscape parking areas and some plants and in front of

the building more so than any type of shop situation trash area right now is located they come to the trash in the morning at like five o'clock in the morning so yeah there's a couple little actually the trash see the little Inlet on the yeah Cove area yeah oh it's in here nope back up right in between the building I think yeah it comes in the building that goes

up and down on the back side of the building that's the loading dock in the trash area right there okay so it'll be away from wherever it is right now it will be probably a small trash area um but the the Britney was 22 where you see the c304 but that'll just be a small trash area that's the restaurant area yeah just a single run away bin you probably have some trash enclosures

um they'll probably have a movable trash okay but nothing as far as we're talking a large larger steel look at the dumpsters yeah like they have right now yeah like I said I'm just

looking I'm right near the auto body and I just wanted to make sure you know what we're going to find out what was going on yeah what I would recommend is that they do put out the product Dean from the contractor is putting out notices regulate to the neighbors as well as having laboratory meetings regularly so that then you wouldn't get you on an email list as far as communication program

yeah and the project team understands the encroachment towards Locust Street so there's a big effort with the Landscaping to help screen that whole Corridor um looking you know East or rather South towards the building you know or the sighting of the building that was one thing we're very sensitive to was being a good neighbor being being bored another further questions nope so make a motion table just for next month

to table second Google hi hi hi hi all right thanks thank you you guys know what the holdup was for the file number no just timing vacations yeah I was on vacation last Fourth of July yeah that's what I assume okay all right next is a request for certificate of compliance sc-24-794 owner Hopkins Highland Farms development 2 LLC project location 30 Sunny Stoney Brook Circle Celsius map is

u-04-0070 live by civil environmental consultant Inc on behalf of the applicant the applicant is requesting a certificate of Appliance with the exceptional final lawn development on this slot the work authorized under this order has been completed substantially compliance with the order condition anybody here for that one did a site visit today the work has been substantially completed the as built

plan again needs some work but I would recommend that you issue the certificate of compliance and we'll deal with the revisions for the asbo on the auto parts equipment okay gonna have a motion for a certificate of compliance so moved a second whoa hi hi hi okay next is a request for certificate of compliance se-24-792 uh owner applicant Highland Farms development 2 LLC project location

9 Stony Brook Circle census map is u-04-00725 by civil environmental consultant Inc on behalf of the applicant the applicant is requesting a certificate in compliance with the exceptional final law development on this lot the work authorized under this order has been completed substantial compliance with the order condition same I recommend the issuance of the certificate of compliance and we'll work

on getting the as bills updated all right can I have a motion to issue a certificate compliance so roll call hi hi alrighty next uh nine uh requests are specifically compliance se-24-797 owner applicant is Highland Farms development 2 LLC project location 108 Fieldstone Lane assessors map is u-04-0073 filed by civil environmental consultant Inc on behalf of the applicant the applicant is requesting a

certificate in Appliance with the exceptional final law development on this lot the work authorized under the order has been completed in a substantial compliance with the order condition same situation recommend the issuance of the certificate of compliance as built needs some work okay motion for certificate of compliance so we'll call aye aye aye aye all righty can I have a motion to take the next three items

together uh receipt of correspondence from National Grid we're to see the correspondent uh proposed activity in 100 Year floodplain and receipt of uh review and discussion notice FSA annual County committee collection so I moved second roll call aye aye aye aye uh approval of the minutes from June 5th 2023 motion solo seconded local I I I already and any citizen input nope can I have a motion for uh to adjourn

uh I'm gonna go back to the one that we that we tabled oh very good Nina um that was the one for Tech Associates Mass Coastal railroad no one's here I mean I did review it and I recommended a positive determination 2A for the wetlands line and a negative determination box five for the work that just has to do with vegetation control you can either deal with it or you can

table it and see if they come next month we can find out why someone wasn't here maybe they were assume they didn't need to be here but that's up to you uh questions for the board do we want to table it or take a boat this is pretty much boil a plate yeah annual maintenance so I don't see that we need to yeah okay so let's uh take a motion uh motion for a positive determination 2A

for the line and a negative determination for box five for the work so moved seconded local I I already not even close and now uh motion to adjourn second second bye