7.17.2023 Fall River School Committee

let's try again here Mr Bailey Mr Hart here miss laravee here miss Pereira here miss rodericks here mayor Coogan here salute to the flag please

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any citizens input Deb T we have no recognition Awards tonight uh subcommittee update technology Mr aguiar please I wasn't at that meeting so who is someone else going to give it to you no no um meeting thank you sorry uh superintendent's report thank you Mr Mayor for the hiring update for um since the last school committee meeting we have hired 87 uh folks 49 of them are teachers nine our

administrative positions 14 parent professionals seven educational support positions and eight Operational Support positions conversely we have had 37 resignations and three retirements I will say that principals have been working feverishly and recommendations for higher coming in in record pace so we're hoping that we're going to be on Target and having our schools staffed appropriately for opening also update on

our conversion back to Aspen as of July 14th and I will say we are in a good place and are actively moving to do what is needed to get ready for the August 30th opening we have achieved some Milestones after six weeks of daily work by both the Aspen conversion team and our follower of a data services team we've been able to go live with our Aspen student information center on June

30th this included validating data after several sessions by reviewing what was in PowerSchool we've been able to we've initialized Aspen single sign-on for our staff and students where the um the use the Google credentials we've completed the setup of the Aspen online student registration portal to accept new registrations Aspen also trained Pace staff and we're lucky to have our newest

edition Jen Hodges to assist Pace as she did for her former District in the registration process we began our summer training schedule for office and admin in addition our two newest employees are completing the Aspen system administrator classes and Tech team members are creating and or improving training videos for teachers and staff for our Online Library similar to what we did with PowerSchool and parent

square has been set up to accept new students and contact data nightly so update every day also to do we still have because of our conversion timeline that was created so that staff had a student information system to use beginning July 1st we agreed to push back the important some data sets in PowerSchool to be completed throughout the summer and that's been ongoing the health immune immunizations has been

ongoing transcripts with final grades has been ongoing health conditions screenings and visits is being added throughout the summer and attendance conduct and student journals are also being imported throughout the summer on the special education side that is slated to go Fully live no later than July 24th although I did see an email this morning from Mr Michael azik and Laura Miss obinching and they were

saying July 21st looks like that's when they'll be going live Aspen is having our special ed Department reviewed data being converted for accuracy in which they will communicate any issues to our special ed conversion lead training for our special ed staff is being planned for August during teacher Institute and beginning of the school year and our staff are able to write new IEPs in

Aspen while the 2022 3 2223 data is being converted health records are also being reviewed between Paris school and Aspen so that any issues are addressed before the data is officially moved into Aspen Sally Borges continues to be the health person for us that's overseeing that we anticipate rolling over the school year and Aspen around August 1st that's pretty usual and schools will

still need to work on completing their master and student schedules in Aspen of which we're dedicating resources to schools to have them completed by August 15th all in all to say we've had a major conversion everything is on track and in very in a very good place that's all any questions item number seven we have five sets of minutes to approve I'd like to read them and then ask for a motion a second on

all of them approval of minutes from the policy subcommittee from five twenty two twenty three approval of minutes from the special education alternative education and early childhood subcommittee meeting from six five approval of minutes from the technology subcommittee from six six approval of Pub of minutes from the public hearing on 612 an approval of minutes of the regular school committee meeting on 6

12. to approve I have a motion I have a motion a second any discussion on the minutes dad would you please call the roller yes Mr yes yes item number eight is the approval of travel requests we have none item number nine is an acceptance of donations we have none for this meeting item number ten as we usually do I respectfully ask the members if they have any of those contract items that

they would like to discuss please let me know and we'll pull them out and do them individually if not I will ask for a motion in a second Mr general question I'm sorry Mister general question can someone please explain to me how they're broken up and if typically we get a one pager that says each like an explanation of each but we only receive some of them if I recall but

I was just trying to figure out uh it was a request that I had made to say whether something's continual new I just want to if somebody can get some clarity so the contracts are broken up um the whole first section with the exception of the last I believe five contracts are all renewals the final five contracts are new so I'm looking at the agenda and maybe I I'm missing it but approval of contract

starts off with it says continuation yep and then there's only two contracts on mine and then it says Grant contracts which is another five and then miscellaneous contracts are under that and then special education yeah so we break we break them out by department so it's a continuation for facilities continuation for Grants continually continuation from miscellaneous and continuations for sped

and then the new ones are the final five ones okay so Lakeshore Learning Core Business W Mason collaborative fed services and Sydney Amaral those are the five new contracts all others on the list are continuation so all I can page to the American reading the one for uh textbooks and all that you attained those are just we've already approved them basically that's yes going through yep so none of these are new

the new ones are the final five just that all these other ones that we've already what we had before yes okay thank you yep further for ed services special ed that's in the discussion items and it was inadvertently also added here so it's a discussion both to approve so if we could just you know exclude that one from the vote all right so we'll hold on collaborative for Educational Services

for seventeen thousand dollars second from the bottom um anything further I'm looking for a motion in a second Ed I have a motion and second Deb would you please call them search yeah just if I can make one request a lot of these returns are for core for printing if between now and the next meeting if somebody could get to I wonder if we're getting the best bang for our buck there are we just leasing

so that I'm sure you guys have analyzed it but if we can get it one page I appreciate it thank you I yield uh Deb would you please call the roll yes yes mayor Quicken yes approval of Grants we only have a few does anybody have any questions on the grants I'm looking for a motion a second motion made second that would you please call the roll yes Mr Bailey yes

it's Pereira yes Miss rodericks yes yes item 12.1 is an update in presentation you Aspire as presented by Kendra Pimentel Durfee RPS you Aspire advisor and Drew Woodward director of guidance

good evening everyone thank you for having us here tonight to highlight and share some information on the partnership between frbs and you aspire I know many of you know this but for the edification of the public U.S fire is a national non-profit that supports high school and college students to access financial aid and navigate post-secondary systems through in-person and virtual dedicated advising here in

Fall River we have a full-time on-site advisor that works with therapy students and families to support their financial aid and financing College as well as aligning their educational goals with their with their finances we've had many Finance phenomenal U.S advisors during my time here and the current one is here with me today Kendra Pimentel and she's going to share a little bit more information about the

partnership you should have a two or three pager describing some of the highlights over the past of the year that she's going to go through now

thank you can hear me okay okay good evening my name is Kendra Pimentel um personal introduction I am an alumni of Durfee High School and a product of the Fall River Public School System and I'm currently finishing up my third year as durfy's U Aspire advisor so as Drew mentioned you Aspire as a non-profit organization with a specialized skill set in helping students navigate the ever-changing ever so complicated

financial aid process and helping them make affordable decisions for their post-secondary plans so tackling the FAFSA the CSS profile and all of the intricacies in between and building that one-on-one relationship with each individual student to help them with their individualized plans and it's been a really great experience for me as their advisor specifically I am part of you aspire's afford program which

specializes in working with seniors in high school to help them make affordable choices build a college list and go over their options explain the loans to them and their families and just really help them make these educated decisions that will impact the rest of their adult lives and as a first generation college student myself this is something that I think the community definitely benefits

a lot from it's a tricky conversation for students staff and parents alike uspire also offers a succeed program which has virtual advising for students who are in college and helps them matriculate through throughout the rest of their bachelor's degree and now has extended to four years whereas before we only offer two years so that is a really positive change that we have and just to briefly capture some great

highlights from this year so we have advised 357 High School seniors specifically at Durfee which our original goal was 240 students so we definitely exceeded that goal we had about 827 in-person advising sessions my office door almost broke off the hinges which is great news ninety percent of student engagement over text message which is great um a lot of virtual aspects of it but a

lot of in person since I'm here at Durfee Tuesday through Friday because of this individualized support um Durfee High School is actually coming in for fourth place with other large urban communities for FAFSA submission um as a lot of you may know is that FAFSA submissions have been low on a national level and I think having the support and keeping Durfee on top of the chart is really important and overall

our advising impact we have 230 fafsas completed this year we had 104 students go over their financial aid offer with me and our Partnerships have awarded students with over fifty thousand dollars in scholarships through the organizations that we partner with um and we have 252 Durfee alumni students who are currently being advised through our succeed program and on the next couple slides are just some very lovely

text messages from some of our current students and our wonderful team that helps us make this all possible thank you very much Miss laravey hi thank you Mr Mayor so just a couple questions um at what grade level do you start engaging with the students so at the end of the academic year when seniors are wrapping up towards like mid-april early may I will start to engage with Juniors with presentations

to teach them about the content and what it is exactly that I help them with so I would say late junior year is usually where I'll start that engagement okay so there's nothing before there's nothing before that unless people are real eager okay um how many staff members with you at Durfee with the kids staff members with you Aspire yes just me just you so you worked with 357 kids yes ma'am interesting

she was my student that's how we think that's how we train right we go big no how do they how does the communication start like how do you is it email is it parent square is it because I I did read about the text messaging and but can you elaborate on that a little bit of course um it's a little bit everything uh majority is uh when at the end of the junior year I do

in-class presentations for every English class to capture all Juniors because that's the one class they all have on their schedule from there I have them all complete a virtual intake form that gets their cell phone number so usually by that it's a really easy way to capture a student's cell phone number and they have to consent to it get parent consent and then at the end of the summer is when I'll start to like

text out students in a bulk message and then I'll send bulk emails through a Fall River email and then the first month of the advising curriculum is honestly just trying to catch any students who are still interested the recruitment never ends but I think that we catch the most of our students at the beginning of Summer and like September portion of the school year thank you um how much participation with the

parents is is part of this program do you require I should say or do you require we don't require parent participation but we do get quite a lot of parent participation um I would say that most of my one-on-one interactions with students are just between them but parents will email me call me they're more than welcome to be part of the meetings if they so desire they know that they can

absolutely always contact me with any questions they have so it's not it's not required but they're welcomed right thank you I yield for now anything further Mr agya Madam superintendent can you tell me how much money this costs and is this part of is this just a general presentation or is this a grant that we've already got or this um this is a result of when these grants these these all of these that we

support came before the committee last the month before and I believe it was you had asked could we have an update as we advocate for Renewal to support again and that's why we had coaching for change we have you Aspire we gave you a spreadsheet of of the things that they did and the recommendation to continue to renew each year that's why what our commitment is Mr Woodward do you have

what our commitment was for yeah the U.S buyer contract is 55 000 per school year and where does that come from where has it come from before and where does it come from now it's probably

it comes out it comes out of the Durfee Durfee Budget Auto contracted Services just a general yes I might be mixing up something but years ago is this the program where we got a grant at one point but I like the chamber paid for something one year and then it's it continued I don't I don't remember how how it all started or when it started but it's basically it's not we're not

getting a grant and no using this as one of them this program can't fit in any of the grants that we receive for counseling for any of that stuff potentially if we write it into any of our grants yes it just it seems to me like a good program but it also makes me when you look at the whole budget what does it do you know we've increased for instance we've increased guidance counselors we've increased

School adjustment counselors and since this has been in existence so if you rewind back to prior to this program uh Council has had to do all of these things so now this is a worthwhile program that's taken some of that burden off of some of the councilors and I'm just trying to figure out how all that meshes together to say I know the problems are more and there's a lot different things but we've

increased the numbers and we're taking away some of the work that's would be my only uh question and my last question on it is so misspimental Works full-time at durf are you at Durfee every day is that when yes I'm at Durfee Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday throughout the entire Academic Year okay because in the country the contract said look when you're when the person is on site and I was

wondering what that means to I would assume you you were on site but it that made it seem like it went on site all the time yeah so they can count on you for four days a week of do you do anything else at the school other than what you explained nope that's what I do full time and I think the the confusion is just because since I work technically for you Aspire

when there's vacation days at Durfee I do remote work for you aspire I see so we're paying them and then they pay you thank you anything further I miss Pereira I was asking I was thinking and Mimi said you're the only one who's handling this I have I have two daughters in college right now like I'm losing my mind personally so the fact that somebody's there and I'm you know I consider myself an

educated woman I have a bachelor's degree but it's it's not in financial aid um and I think sometimes I know that part is still I'm in the process of it for my youngest and it's really daunting and sort of scary financially right and and hard and sometimes I think in a situation where maybe you're maybe you've grown up in a situation that you haven't seen everybody go to college and you're not used to this

process you may be hesitant then to go forward so having somebody like you I think is beyond important um I agree it is something that guidance counselors used to do but as we're spending more money on these things I think that we also are doing so because we have a social emotional need for our students which I think what you're doing is something that's entirely entirely different which to me almost seems like more

family engagement and Family Outreach in in that way so I think this is fantastic but my question after that rambling is do you feel that after you capture as many students as you can to you know to sort of help navigate you know through this process do you feel that every student every skull that's coming to you is getting served what they need or do you think you're only one person and

it's difficult or does it seem like it's working that you're you're getting getting help to the people that are coming for it you I would say that I do feel that I provide each student with the support they need and if there is a part of their issue that I feel that I can't support them with I'll always guide them to the right place so I think that if a student is

ever asking me questions like I will absolutely go above and beyond to answer whatever they need but I feel as though I I can successfully do it okay thank you thank you for the work you do thank you anything further thank you foreign I apologize I wasn't at the last meeting but Madam superintendent did you say all of those other ones got approved last meeting or what no only the ones that

present when they came you asked for feedback for us to give you data and stuff I'm saying have they all been approved we wish I think that we made a recommendation I shared on the Friday what we were paying for each one and the recommendation was you had asked for whether we were recommending to renew or whether we I think there's one of them that we that had gone had stopped during

covid and then we did not but my question is when are we voting on all of them did we do that last month um I think that we'll bring them again um because I think someone a placeholder yes we put on hold so I didn't miss that last night we're going to bring it all of them together we just wanted you guys to understand that thank you 12-2 is a discussion a vote to approve

the criminal justice Protective Services chapter 74 teacher cvte job description as presented by Cynthia Silvia CTE director thank you can I ask a question while she's coming down Mr Egg yeah was this in the budget is that why it's now what yes yes so the the line it was approved and then we had to go back and and create the job description thank you so um basically we're really excited again

to continue to to broaden the CTE program in a direction I think is very important for our students in the uh criminal justice and protective services uh the first step in any chapter 74 bringing a new program on is a three-year process the first year we have to kind of see if there's interest and that's where we are in this process and the criminal justice Protective Services is fire police hopefully to

have them certified as an EMT and possibly even get them ready for the FBI if if that be a um a career pathway so I guess I'm here because we've already approved the position and you've had time to overlook and see what the job description looks like the drop description for this instructor can be a firefighter it can be a police officer it can be a lawyer it can be an

EMT it can be any one of those but they have to work in the field they can't just be somebody who really likes criminal justice or who I majored in criminal justice no just like every CTE program they have to be what they teach so we have to be mindful when we have this search for this for this teacher that they are one of the things and one of the Avenues although those particular

career pathways are vast you still have to be in those career Pathways in order to teach it for so many years depending on what that is so if anybody has any questions regarding the actual job description to search for this higher I'd be happy to answer any questions and I mean needs to be a teacher certified teacher with Destiny correct or certifiable certifiable and CTE World means they've

been in say we have a firefighter that's been a firefighter for 20 years now Desi shows a pathway to certification so there is a timeline because we have to bring these people out of Industry so there is a timeline Desi allows for us to make them certifiable and get them the teaching certification because academic side they learn how to be a teacher and take all their teacher classes and then they have five years to

get their masters in CTE World they have to be in industry and then they have five years to get their Ed courses so it's kind of like the reverse academic versus CTE so they have to be sort of on a pathway to certify to be able to be certified so the first line says maintains a valid Mass the ESC teacher certification that is appropriate to the grading level a lot of them have them

already there are criminal justice and protective services teachers who have that license so I'm definitely in favor of it don't get me wrong I'm in favor of it but I just want to make sure when we're approving the job description that we're not boxing ourselves into a corner and if I read number one whether I just read about maintaining a license it doesn't to me what you answered is not what this says

if I was to just give you my opinion well they could also apply for an emergency license just like you could any one of those but usually in CTE when it says maintains a um a valid Desi certification it means that they have a Val because Desi certification isn't just the meepid or or the teaching license it's also the licensure in those fields for instance a CNA teacher needs to have a valid Desi makes sure that

they have the valid nursing license they have to be an RN so that's all part of it so when we talk about licensure the license that they talk about isn't always a teaching license but it may be a professional license like cosmetology you have a thought on this we actually cleared it with both principal Damaris and Miss Sylvia that I had the same question because it says the number one

bullet says Desi license and then the chapter 74 and both agreed that that um those needed to be in the job description but if you look at how it's written I don't see anywhere in here that would she just explained can happen so if I'm applying for this job I need to maintain a value so to me that means you have to have it the way I'm reading this it's not that you need a waiverable

within five years like the It doesn't to me it means maintain means you actually have to have it in order to maintain it I think that if you look at the letter of the way this is written what I think you're trying to do is say they need to be either a receiver a waiver or be certifiable or some other a valid Pathway to licensure well we could say is able to maintain is

able to acquire a mass Desi teacher that might be a good one I mean I'm not like that involved in HR I mean look at eight look at bullet eight

I see that as a different thing so right but if we use that same wording yeah for the first one to say to either hold maintain or sorry maybe have it not be redundant so eight becomes one and get rid of eight

I have no problem with that at all great point yeah I'm just writing it would back us into a corner Mr aggia it would well I think you just this is going to be first of all whatever you try to find a teacher who's also a police officer teacher who's also a nurse I mean good luck to begin with I mean it's hard we're going to do it but this isn't easy

so if I read I agree with Kevin you read this first line I go oh I don't have a teacher certification I guess I don't qualify not knowing maybe I could sure anything else I do think this is a very important program for the city of Fall River and for Massachusetts I know we looked at some other cities in town so we're doing it and I think this is going to be very

positive for us for helping in our recruitment of police firemen anything else questions the initial the initial interest thus far is we had 120 students choose it as a first choice and just under 200 as an alternate Choice good so we're in good shape with people who students that are interested that's the first big step to getting us toward a full-blown program so you answered my question I was very

close to what Mr aggiel was going to uh was was speaking of but I was just wanting to comment on um a sense of humor is it sarcastic is it you need a sense of humor whenever you're dealing with kids whenever you're dealing with staff you need to smile you need to smile and like seeing that they need to be warm and and you know what that is important that is important that's

important it's important to our programs it's what it's what keeps our kids engaged so I think that being the right fit for a program is definitely important kudos to you for putting that in there I agree with you I yield can I get um so the other piece once again I don't work for HR but I think we need to tighten up some of our language when we use these every other position that I've ever

approved in my years here has always said in any other duties that the principal or director would want them to do or something along those lines and I don't see that here so my question is why and who vetted it and yeah we'd have to check the fra contract I know that we have that in administrators job descriptions that I'd have to check the frea to see if that's right

we will add it but I don't know that it's an fra Mr I can't tell you I I don't think that's in the teachers contract it's in the administrators right but we we also need to have some flexibility for when she's running a program that she needs to be able to some of the things and and um responsibilities yeah you have to teach a class those are prescriptive to how

many you got to follow the contract I get that but there's also things when you're trying to create a program from scratch that you need some flexibility in my opinion so once again the way this is written potentially could bind you because if we don't put something in it to say that you might say based on need this that whatever follow the contract but you still need some flexibility you

have none as the way that I see it um you know I'm I'm not really privy to the teachers contract if that's a part of it or not um so none of the none of the job descriptions that I'm that I'm affiliated with gives me any kind of flexibility like that but um yeah but I think you need I think you need some so I make a motion to approve with the superintendents change the

language related to item number one second uh what's vote on the amendment first it was just a change it was the change to the description of maintaining yes that's the one we're amending um Deb please call the roll Mr yes yes

now voting on the criminal justice Protective Services teacher Miss Pereira sorry I don't know if this makes a big difference I don't want to be nitpicky but under responsibilities number five it says response it says under responsibilities which I assume would meet would mean the role of my job duties of my job my responsibilities and it says a history of successfully teaching diverse student

population yada yada should that be under qualifications not responsibilities it seems to be more of a qualification or maybe it should read a responsibility will be teaching adverse does anybody follow what I'm saying yeah it doesn't seem like a responsibility it seems like a qualification or you can reword it or reword it and make it a responsibility either or yeah anyway that's my two cents on that one

other question too Miss rodericks so you mentioned that they also need to have their professional license right so but I don't see that anywhere in here so does that um that that is I don't think that you can't specify their professional license because if it's an ENT it's going to be a certain license if it's a if it's a firefighter it's a different certification they may be all different

certifications we may have somebody who's going to be able to go in there and is a um you know because Desi has a broad range of Protective Services Pathways to list all the licensures that could be held for them to hold that position I think that we just leave that into Desi and say let Desi have that certification vetting process if you will because sometimes we could say Okay needs to

have a valid firefighters license or or some other license and Desi would say or you can have this license this license or that license to also so I'm I'm not so sure if we want to we want to articulate that because I think that it will already come out when they apply for their license with the Department of Education I'm just trying to think through that because I would hate for somebody to go

through the process and then go to apply for their license through deci right and then find out oh wait this doesn't qualify for this well hopefully they've already they've already investigated that I find that quite a bit in CTE that when I meet with them in an interview I say if they are not Desi certified have you discussed have you gone through the deci process to see what it takes for

certification as soon as that answer is no by a candidate I have on the ready what deci requires and I share that with them but ultimately it is their job as the applicant to investigate just like an English teacher would investigate what it takes to be an English teacher or a math teacher a math teacher you know so I I don't think that I don't think that that's something I've

I don't foresee an issue putting it in the job description but we can I mean no I'm just it just limits it I'm just trying to think through it so does So based on that what we're saying is that number one then already absorbs that I believe so yeah both of them the the first one analyst go ahead I'm still Mr Right Here so like I said before I don't work in HR

but we certainly in my opinion can do better when we present something like this I think the the problem the way I look at it is if somebody comes to you for an interview and they don't have a license and they say just to follow what you were just saying and they say yes I'm aware of it and I'm going to get it I think that we need to play We meaning

the district needs to play a more important a more clear role in what does that mean so if I'm the candidate and I come in yeah I know what it means that might mean that I have to take two classes a year or whatever the the rules are that somebody internal here has to hold them accountable to are they meeting that and they are they continuing to be on that path that

that's typically typically me because I see the certifications and what their pathways are and sometimes there is no Pathway to certification for instance if I have um we have an engineering teacher that that we're that we have on posting for if somebody comes out of UMass Dartmouth with a master's degree in engineering they are unless they've been in the field of engineering they cannot get a

license so they're not certifiable I know that because I've done my homework and when I meet with these candidates I share with them what their Pathways to certification are in CTE that's part of my job when I interview them when we just had a cosmetology interview today that we have a candidate who says oh well I work for Rob Roy and I would I have my cosmetology instructor's license

okay great that's one of three steps that you need to get certified here are the other steps and the state usually grants one year for them to get that in in place when they come on an industry I think just knowing what I've known of you watching you come in you're thorough and you get it you understand what I think happened is you answer the question I think didn't explain that like that you

it was like you were putting it on and I think that you were going to be on it to make sure that they don't otherwise you wouldn't be hiring them so it was just the words that came out when Mr Rogers was asking the question that seemed like it's on them and really you're gonna take they're on them and I do think you do a good job and I think you're going

to get it straightened out if they I absolutely I absolutely have to stay aligned especially if we hire them but but also they as applicants also are applying for a teaching job here at Durfee High School and they need to know what they're applying for and so if they haven't done their homework and I've had people say well I'm I'm a stylist at such and such Salon have you ever gone to the Desi website no

that to me is problematic that you're applying for a teaching job and you know nothing about going into teaching so I think it's a mix of them being responsible as coming here not as a stylist or as an engineer but as a teacher same as the academic side would do that they would also do their due diligence to find out what it's like to what it is to get their teaching license

I help guide their way in the right direction and show them exactly what they need to do and then if we find them in the pathway that they are going to be a good hire then I would if we did that and gave them that one year then absolutely I become that Mentor who is going to guide them through the process but eventually they have to get through the process they have to go out and do

the work yeah no I understand that I'm sure you do a great job so I have no no worries thank you I yield I need a motion in a second motion to approve proof I have a motion radio the amended job description Deb please call the roll yes yes Laramie yes Pereira yes Miss Roderick yes mayor Coogan yes item 12.3 is discussion and vote to approve card access projects in the district as referred by the technology

subcommittee and presented by Scott Cabral Chief Information officer promotional proof I have a motion to approve a second do we have any discussion or do we want to let Scott tell us what we're doing Scott give it a rip give us a summary of what this is about um so this is just going to be a continuation of the card access that we've been doing across the district there are two pieces to this approval uh

one being Watson where we're going to add card access which is already in the building from the updates that we've been doing there however that's going to be an update to the elevator cab so that we can keep students out of the elevator cap during the day and then the second um I guess you could call change order is when we came to the committee back in October um we began the installation of the new

cameras at the Moore in middle school at that time it was my professional opinion that we could save the external cameras however as the vendors began to replace those cameras internally in the building we noticed that just the age of the cameras and some of the wiring we needed to go ahead and replace the remaining exterior camera so that was the change order um on the more inside everything else is

just going to be pushing forward to get all of the buildings under the same system and then we'll have a couple of buildings left that Mr pachico and I are waiting for the majority of the construction projects at Henry Lord and then also at RPA to finish and then we'll be adding those buildings to the same system as well in the future any questions for Mr um Cabral I just have it's like clarification so I

watched the meeting excuse me and just if you could clarify one part when when you were discussing um some of the elevators we are not going to be able to ever use a card and then there are some that will be able to move over once that that takes place so I don't know if this is a question for you or for Kenny or whatever but just to just to clarify the ones whether we're

having got to be able to use the card or we're never going to be able to use the card because unless we upgrade the elevator or whatever how were those used like tell me what prevents kids from getting in those now so like by basically my question is I want to make sure a kid can't just walk over and press a button and get into an elevator so if I watch that meeting as a

parent I would have been a little confused so I just wanted to clarify that does that make sense Kenny what I'm asking go ahead Scott I couldn't really hear you huh I couldn't really hear you oh sorry no it's like I can I know it's really hard I can I can I can just give an overview for you guys so okay there are some there are some elevator cabs that are in

the district that right now you can just walk up to push the button and you know it'll call the elevator um what our plan there is we're not going to be able to put card access inside of those elevator caps because of the equipment in those elevator caps but we are looking at and actually after our technology subcommittee meeting I contacted ene who has been our uh front runner in this project and we are

looking at the possibilities of putting card access readers on the outside of the elevator caps so staff members and or nurse could call the cab to the floor externally and not in the cab currently in Durfee the new Durfee and at Morton there are card readers in the cabs um that will not be the case at a Fonseca and some of the other buildings will be putting those card readers externally

before they hit the button to call the cab they would have to swipe their card That was supposed to be cool we had some concerns at that meeting and did a little bit of research awesome and that's going to be the plan moving forward Scott you're like reading my mind anything further with Scott Mr agya the uh are the cameras inside the elevators or outside so right now in most of the buildings

there are cameras outside of the elevators the currently the only building that has them inside of the elevator and this is new for us in the district is Durfee High School um it's something that we are talking about doing um and that's something that we're going to have to get the elevator company involved with as well because anytime that we look to add technology in an elevator cap we have to bring in the

elevator company because we're not even allowed in that elevator machine room so it's something that we're discussing with ene and trying to figure out best practice and best way to install them moving forward well I think the when you look at the cost the cost of the card reader outside is going to be less cost more costly than actually doing the inside so it's something to look at I I

don't think we need both personally so if you ask me I would think the camera inside is more important than putting the card reader outside but if you have the money to do it then I think we should either do it or do both but did can you repeat again about Martin Martin didn't have one or you thought you could use them and then it's obsolete or was it really broken no so what so what

happened at Morton was we came to you guys at a facility subcommittee meeting and requested to you know to do the camera change out um and at that time in speaking with the vendor and then myself just doing this for the amount of time that I have I thought that we were going to be able to save those external cameras those external cameras there are actually fed via fiber optic back into the building

and then when we started to change out the cameras and just looked at the sheer difference in resolution from the internal cameras to the outside external cameras it was night and day and there were a number of those cameras outside that kept failing um so it made technological sense and fiscal sense to just replace the remaining cameras outside so that it was all under that one umbrella and that that building was

covered inside and outside with that one system with new warrantied cameras and replacement of wiring on some of those external parking lot poles where the old Carroll school was yeah and the only other request I were making it's not August 1st yet but at the tech subcommittee we talked about having an update to the whole committee on all the projects and where they're at just so we

can periodically get over the summer where things are going so just a reminder that's all I'm actually in the creation of a kind of a live ticker as you will it'll be shared out via Google site I'm due back in Massachusetts next week and then we will share it out to the committee so that you can see real time where we are with the projects great thank you I yield any further so I need a um

emotional proof second I have a motion this second on 12.3 Deb would you please call the roll ER yes Mr Bailey Mr Hart yes Miss laravec yes Miss Pereira yes Miss rodericks yes mayor Kruger yes 12.4 is a discussion involved to approve the Chromebook purchase as referred by the technology subcommittee motion approved 12.4 and 12.5 together seconded I have a motion any discussion on 12 4 12 5. Deb please call the roll

yes Mr Bailey Mr Hart yes Miss laravey yes Miss Pereira yes Miss Roderick yes Mary Kruger yes 12.6 and this is a discussion about to approve 2501 South Main Street as referred by the technology subcommittee a second I have a motion and a second on 12.6 to 2501 South Main Street any discussion just uh I always like to just say what it is and I know this is the technology for the new building that we purchased

so for the edification of the public that's all it is that we're Leasing releasing correct um any discussion Deb please call the roll Mr Ryan yes Mr harp yes Mr Harvey yes Miss Pereira yes Miss rodericks yes very cool yes 12.7 is a discussion a vote to approve the conversion of a data technician to a data specialist as referred by the technology subcommittee and presented by Scott Cabral Chief Information officer

do I have a motion and a second on that a motion second I have a motion a second any discussion on this um Mr cabal is still here

all right yes Ms rodericks yes yes 12.8 is discussion and vote to approve the selection and appointment of the director of nursing for the Fall River School Department motion to approve Miss Mary Gustav is the superintendent's choice second I have a motion a second any discussion on Miss Mary Gustav Mr aguio the um I just don't know if this is a technical thing do we ever interview or anything like I know a lot

of times it's awkward because we do no we oh you know when they come before the school commitment look that's why this is here uh I trust what yes you interviewed and you recommended her but I think explaining why it might help us to just go with it and yep absolutely so it's the assistant superintendents superintendents that come for a public interview but as you know that um in in your purview you also approve the

appointment of attendance offices as well as nurses Nurse Gustav has been with us for quite some time we had an interview panel and nurse long was actually part of the team we interviewed several candidates nurse Gustav has actually been working alongside a nurse long for quite some time and really even covered for her while she was on leave she is extremely qualified as has a calm

nature and we have every confidence that she will lead the district in the next leg of her of this journey certainly we are thankful for nurse long and it's uh you know art shoots to fill the I think nurse Gustav is ready to do that any further discussion on Nurse Gustav motion to approve General yes Mr Hart yes Miss laravee yes Miss Pereira yes Miss rodericks yes yes 12.9 is discussion vote to approved a

request for additional special education petitions at 2501 South Main Street as presented by Kristen farius Early Childhood director come on up Kristen tell us what you're looking for please our positions in for special education services that will be needed for students that will be attending 2501 South Main Street and then we'll also service students some of these positions will also serve as students that are

attending at the Early Learning Center at the least building at St Anthony's those positions those children were serviced this past school year we were able to pull staff from other places to cover them we did not know initially what full enrollment would look like we started with five classrooms we expanded to seven classrooms and we only recently have finalized which classrooms for

preschool will be at 2501 South Main Street so that's why these positions are coming before you now so the speech and language therapy assistance as well as the occupational therapy assistants will solely be servicing children at 2501's Health Main Street the SLP and the OTA will be supervising staff both at Early Learning Center and at 2501 South Main Street the team chair and school psychologist will also be

servicing students at both sites are there any questions in this various I just uh thank you for the presentation I just have a question from MS obenchain so my only question is on all of the um and I think I know the answer to this already that you work together with to come up with these numbers but a lot of these positions are under your supervision as assistant superintendent are they is this all that's needed in

order to service the children in their and your opinion based on the numbers that we have now yes Christian's done a fantastic job of making everything very clear for me and same thing with our SLP lead and our OT lead so yes whether or not what's coming down the road from early intervention or move-ins this gives us a little bit of wiggle room it's not like anybody will be maxed out with the current editions

there's a little bit of a buffer the reason I asked is some of the the positions that are here also exist across your entire department so these going to be equal in case loads and if they're not then you have the authority to shift around right absolutely and we always work together on that and you're comfortable with these numbers I am comfortable with it thank you very much anything further

I need a motion motion to approve um can I please call the roll yes drag yeah yes Mr Bailey Mr harp yes Miss laraveen yes Miss Pereira rodericks yes mayor Kruger yes 12.10 is a discussion and vote to approve an adjustment to the Early Childhood Grant coordinates pajama position as presented by Kristen Farris early childhood my bed so the grant coordinator originally came before you as a part-time position

specific to the Commonwealth the partnership Grant to expand Early Childhood that is a position that is required under that Grant based on the number of Partners we had it was only a part-time position we have been unable to fill that position as a part-time position this year moving into next school year we re-entered a competitive cycle for the coordinated family and Community

engagement Grant and so as part of that competitive Grant I did write into that Grant an additional half-time Grant coordinator position that will assist in similar responsibilities to the coordinated to the partnership Grant around Grant oversight some of the fiscal piece they will do in alongside me but will also now service the cfce grant as well which gave us the ability to make that a full-time position and

hopefully make it more attractive to be able to fill it emotional proof any discussion hearing none Deb please call the rule Mr yes Mr Mr Bailey Mr harp yes Miss laravey yes Miss Pereira yes Miss rodericks yes mayor Kruger yes 12 11 is a discussion and vote to approve the professional development series for team chairs as presented by Laurie obachane assistant superintendent of special education

so I was approached by a few of our team chairs about attending this professional development Institute so when I looked into this I have sent team chairs to this before I have participated in different leadership academies through these types of collaboratives we've gotten positive feedback from our team chairs who have already gone the problem is it requires them to be out of the district for long periods of time

multiple days throughout the school year and it's a far commute for them so I looked into the ability when we back up and we're hiring new team chairs so we're going to end up with about 21 team chairs some of which have gone through this institute previously but they would love to have them come on board and continue the work again things change in special ed all the time

and also to Mentor the new um the new team shares as they're going through this institute so instead of trying to figure out how to send 21 different people out it was beneficial for me to reach out and see if I could bring them to us and they're willing to do that so I think this is what we need to do we promise the team chairs again when we're doing professional development of our

staff we want to grow our own I want them to be confident in their role and their knowledge of special education so bringing this institute to them also allows three of them to be part of a job alike throughout the state where they can have monthly virtual meetings with other team chairs discuss issues that we're having in Fall River get some ideas and bring that back that's all included in this institute

motion to approve of the question exactly I got a motion in a second um Mr Aggies and she made the motion you go first then miss uh Larry the uh some of the days are it looks like the school day I'm sorry can you say one more time they're they're actually during school is that what yeah yeah and is there any time out of school like and uh there's some virtual requirements and there'll

be assignments in between so are they if they're extra they get paid extra and it's in the number in the we'd have to I'd have to look at the contract to see how that works but they also would have I mean their day they can schedule their day so to me this is preparation like if I Was preparing for a meeting I can be preparing my assignment a lot of it is the Hands-On stuff

um that they're doing every day that can be utilized yeah just I looked at some of them they were during the day and that just takes them away from the yes but they're not having to drive to Danvers where a lot of these things occur right so if we give them the schedule ahead of time and that way they can plan their meetings around these um these Institute days and we added

some team chairs so their case loads are lower so this could probably happen yes the keys if we can when all the team chair positions are filled I think failed I think we have two left um one or two left we the case laws will be yes around between 1 30 and 160 which is much different than the over 200 right now great thank you very much Miss larvy

three out of the 21 team chairs have an opportunity to take part in What can you repeat that oh it's called it's a job alike so it's basically a virtual meeting of different team chairs around the um the Commonwealth and they can discuss like problems of practice they can discuss you know um successes that they've had kind of share information normally that's an additional cost and we've had some team

chairs request for me to allow them to participate in this job alike I was able to work it out with the group that they're going to give us three seats in this job like like they'll be one for secondary there'll be another one for elementary those types of things they're going to give us the three seats included in this rate rather thank you I understand that thank you forever I just had a quick question so

when you're saying they come to us and so are these trainings everyone is going to be doing the same training the same day or yes on site okay so instead of them basically all going an hour away for two days they'll be here doing and they used they have our professional development calendar already so they're going to use as many as those days as they can right right those types of things thank you anything further

Deb please call the world yes Mr Bailey Mr Hart yes Ms Laramie yes Miss Pereira yes Ms rodericks yes mayor Kruger yes 1212 is a discussion and vote to approve responsive classroom as presented by Maria Ponce superintendent so as Dr Bernhard was not able to be with us tonight um she had been researching uh ways on how to support classroom teachers and one of the things we we had been a

responsive classroom District in the past after covid the trainings lessons and uh you know things changed we are trying to get ourselves back on track as uh in regards to being a responsive classroom District it's focused on relationship building building those positive cultures common language conditions for students to learn and Thrive academically socially emotionally it's very hard to get this is an

intensive training four-day training eight eight hours per day um Dr branhart is uh got the company to actually do the training in the summer for our staff we have the potential to have four cohorts two Elementary and two Middle School of Middle School teachers who are going to take advantage of this training our goal is to have common language common expectations a common approach to this

um you know to to teaching as well as to discipline throughout the district any questions Miss rodericks a lot of investing in different approaches right to teaching and to try to get the whole District on board with things so how are we going to make sure that this actually gets Implement implemented and that folks are actually using the tools that they're because it's a big investment oh it's a huge

responsive classroom is wonderful right they typically do their trainings in the summer to get everybody up and running and so that way that then they can start the school year with this practice in mind but how are you going to make sure that this can actually happen yep that's a very valid question we actually um we did responsive classroom at Dorn when we it was part of our turnaround

practice I think that part of this is that Dr B already took a team developed an SEL team that has representation from every school one of the things that will happen will be that we will have RC walks where people will go into you know go into buildings or even School staff we used to do that periodically monthly RC walks where we would go in support give feedback to teachers and it's a way

for us to adjust our practice before it gets to the end of the year and say no that didn't work um yeah it's a huge investment but it's a worthwhile investment and I think that we need we need to have the right systems in place to support that and we are creating teams at each school so that they can support them okay so at each school we'll have a group of folks

hopefully not just one person but absolutely a small group of people that will be able to troubleshoot and you know model and do the pieces that are necessary for for that because it's a great program I could not agree more each school has SEL teams but what Dr B did was took uh if you recalled the last time the school committee approved they all went to a conference in Atlanta one administrator

from each building not necessarily the sac right an administrator from each building who was going to be the lead person and mobilize that team but there needs to be some um you know uh buy-in from everybody in the building it only works if it's school-wide district-wide where everybody's talking the same language doing the same work I just wanted to double check on that because we'd pull different pieces and

every school sort of does their own thing but if we're going to have this whole District approach which we've needed for a long time but if we're going to have a whole District approach we have to have those systems I'm pleased to make sure that they actually you know are followed through on absolutely with that I yield anything further you know I I think it's a good uh investment the consent that I have is

the comment in there that has said because of covid we stopped it and I just don't necessarily agree with with that but maybe things change I I don't want to say we stopped it right but the way we taught you know the the virtual the hybrid um trainings uh uh changed the way um not everybody was doing all the trainings that they used to do and we had to everybody had to pick back up so

I don't want to say we stopped it I just think there wasn't as much of a focus on it and it wasn't adhered to as strictly as it should be so you know yeah I was just reading the line says we have not contracted with them since practical that is true that's all I was you're asking was that if we contracted with them that would therefore we would have implemented

better in my opinion so whenever we made the decision to stop Contracting with somebody we probably did ourselves of this service but thank you yeah we need a motion in a second Mr Mr yes Mr Bailey Mr Hart yes Miss laravey yes Miss Pereira yes Miss rodericks yes mayor Krueger yes 12 13 is a discussion to vote to approve the fourth quarter budget transfer as presented by Kevin Almeida our Chief Financial Officer Mr

Almeda so you have in front of you this is our end of year cleanup this is the final transfer of moving funds between cost centers this year was the first year we did the cost center method and uh as you can see we've moved you know several dollars of rounds with different different areas a couple things to note this transfer takes care of the funding of a down payment on 2501 South Main

Street for three million dollars it takes care of the final phase of the fields project here at Durfee High School which is about a million and a half that it's projected to be and it takes care of just odds and end miscellaneous other items that happen over the course of the year any discussions on the transfers Mr aguir they're quite extensive I do appreciate the cost center the

approach that we went through I think it was a new thing this year but I do think it it created at least a little better oversight by the committee the one that I'm having a hard time understanding is the three million dollar down payment and I'm wondering if this is the first we're hearing of it as school committee or did I miss it well we when we did the when we did do the

agreement I I had planned all along to keep the money here so that we could put a down payment on on the building so my question was did we hear is this the first time I'm hearing about not today meaning this document because that's an extensive amount and what it's leading me to is the quarterly um transfers if we knew we had three million I've never known that we had that much money

in that particular cost center for the first three quarters if you follow what I'm saying and I think that that's one that's given me um A Little Bit Of Heartache so just so you know the last quarterly report that I provided to you that was the first one that we did that showed and you wanted us you and I've never done it you wanted me to project out what we were going to have through the

end of the year and at that time it was just over five million dollars is what I projected to have and so the plan all along was to start the process of paying down this building yeah I don't think you're doing anything I don't think you're hiding anything I'm not suggesting that I just moving forward as we go if we have that much money in a cost center we could have made this particular transfer yep

in May in in my opinion rather than the later on so I wonder if we know okay this three million is 5 million then we would have a the school committee would have the bite at the Apple to say yes we think that and we could have made that change like a few months ago would be the way that I um and maybe you could just summarize I did try to read here where

did that money come from pretty pretty I hate to say it but it's pretty much everywhere and most of it is caused by just salary savings because we've had so many open positions over the course of the year um and between that and the Contracting with um the the different agencies and the difference in money spent between what would we would have spent in salaries versus what we spent there but in the

facilities and operations Silo that's there was five million no no no I had to I had to shift the five million into facilities to come to cover that okay from when I was reading it I was it read to me quickly like we had that much money in just facilities no no no no it's literally 200 000 in one area nine hundred thousand and another area 800 000 in another area and the problem is is

I I appreciate you know the comments but you know it's hard to say in the third quarter that I'm gonna take x amount of dollars um you know from a certain area if just in case something happens afterwards so it's while I would I would prefer to do what you're saying and move money you know all the way all around the year so many different things happen over the course of the year that you know makes

it hard to do it that way I I totally understand that and I think that when I was pushing for that as a school Committee Member because part of our job is oversight and then with the budget and all that so I do appreciate you yourself and the superintendent changing that to do that what I would suggest is that we meet in the middle of somewhere that there was there's no doubt in my

mind that we could have transferred a lot more in that third quarter and still giving you a cushion in case something happened would be my thing absolutely so I think meeting together would be like we wouldn't have this big number we might add half a number that would be the only suit because we if we don't know we can't say we think this should be the priority or that should be the

priority so I do appreciate your work thank you you got it thank you any further discussion on transfer um I need a motion in a second motion to approve second Deb would you please call the roll Mr agne yes Mr Bailey Mr Hart yes Miss laravey yes Miss Pereira yes Miss Roderick yes mayor Kruger yes 12 14 is a discussion and vote to approve the year-to-date budget report presented by Kevin Almeida

so this is this is just the where we stood prior to the transfer I've provided you with an update on all the esa grants and where we stand as of June 30th um in addition I've given you the health care information as you can see um it is quite quite high in what we have left there so um you know originally when I provided you with the information back the first time around I believe it

was about three million dollars but it's looking like it could be more like four million dollars with the year end wrapping up here so when I file the end of the year report um we will be getting more money um well and there'll be more money coming down the road after the report is filed to the tune of probably about four million dollars so any discussion Mr aggia can you please repeat what you

just said about in a clear way what's what is the issue with the health care so the insurance the insurance is budgeted higher than what we needed for this year and um we with that um I give you I provide the analysis every quarter as to what you know I think it's going to be as the year goes on and the number has gone from 3 million that I'd originally provided to provided back in

I believe it was the first time was in January I believe to now where it's at about 4.3 million dollars and that 4.3 million is what the city is going to owe us to meet net School spending yes sir and those conversations have been had with the city regularly and we talked we talked to them back when the 3 million started and they and they're well aware of it they're well aware of it yeah the only

thing I would ask is that this continues to be an issue every year and I'm going to say the same thing in October then I'm going to say the same thing in November and I'm going to say the same thing in December we could avoid all that conversation if we worked ahead of time and said we know we're going to owe for maybe we know for sure it's three let's do the three early so

this committee can actually make a decision on what to spend it for and leave the 1 million to chance I'm just saying that again and I want to say it every month promise you I guarantee I'll say that every month the um understood this sheet the one that has the across this is updated to the new budget no not that this is just for FY 23 I kept it that way only because we're still in FY

23.

we're going to get one that's moving forward yeah request I would make is that gets sent out as soon as you have it sure just so that we don't have to wait for the next monthly meeting to determine thank you I need a motion in a second emotional proof that please call the roll let's try again yes Mr Bailey Mr Hart yes Miss laravey yes Miss Pereira yes Miss rodericks yes America yes 12 15 is the

discussion and vote to approve a five-year contract with Whaling City Transit of Westport for special education School Bus Service as presented by me chairman of the school committee and Richard LaBrie Alliance educational Associates uh Mr Liberty thank you I believe you have in your packet a project report that we submitted it outlines uh the background for the project of project being electrification

of school buses in Fall River as well as the the budget and the status of the the project to date the reason we're here this evening is that in order to take advantage of both the EPA and the CEC Grant both the city and the contractor that was chosen need to make a five-year commitment to running the buses and we're at the point now where we're ready to install chargers at the location and

in order to do that we don't want to install spend a million dollars of grant money to install Chargers and make the infrastructure improvements because there's only a year about a year and a half year and three quarters left on the current contract so we're asking to extend that contract for five years Mass General Law chapter 30 B allows it because it's a special ed transport education as opposed to regular

Transportation which has to be bid and so the timing is that we'd like to get these things installed this summer and continue to move the project ahead the other reason that we're here now is that phase two of the EPA Grant application is open in August and the city has indicated that they would like to continue to move ahead with electrifying buses and so we're in a pipeline for an additional 15 buses which if we're

successful would be awarded in November and would extend the project into into next year and so the timeline is such that we're looking to extend the contract now so that both the city and the contractor can meet their their commitment under both EPA and CEC you'll also see a project timeline which shows the work plan for fully electrifying school buses and vans over the next several years our premise is

that if EPA accepts this work plan they're somewhat committed to funding us over that period of time and we would be implementing somewhere between 15 and 20 buses each year with an influx of about between five and eight million dollars of federal money each year to support it this project is literally cost free to the city the EPA and the CEC Grant cover both the full cost of all of the buses

as well as the full cost of all the Chargers as well as the full cost of all of the infrastructure and installation costs and it's an opportunity for the city to improve air quality especially in the inner city and we chose to partner with Whaling City because they serve in District special ed transportation and as you know air quality is a big issue in the city as well as water quality

Fall River remains a priority City for funding by both CEC and EPA and as such we feel that we're serving the best interests of the students with handicapping conditions as a priority for service under the under the pro the project thank you any questions Mr labry Mr agya so I've been asking questions about this for almost a year and this committee has received basically no information

about how this process was going other than we were going to get a grant and at the time I said many times this is something that we vote on the contract for transportation we should be part of the process to know what's happening and it's none of our business is what I was told multiple times the fact that this is here before us now asking for a five-year extension on a

bus contract that's a no bid contract I think we should do should have a say and that's the unfortunate piece of this is that it sounds it all sounds so great sounds good yeah whatever we've taken every issue that we have that's complicated send it to a subcommittee let them work through it so we can actually see what is in there what's not the subcommittee members can ask certain questions and we can get to a point

where we're going to make a decision at a full meeting with some information this is the first piece of stuff that we've received related to this now I have a whole slew of questions Mr Liberty you don't even you're a consultant right yes so you work for the city for the city how much do the what is your contract what is what how much money is your contract as part of this fifty thousand dollars

and then it ends when I'm sorry is there any requirements there's a scope of work that the that the city approved when they approved the contract and once we approve this it's over so like you would mentioned we're going to have another five years we're going to have another Grant we're gonna are you is there a contract fifty thousand more when is your contract of 50 000 answer that's June 30th we have not signed a

new contract with the uh with the city yet for the following for this coming school year so the 50 000 and the June 30th correct and it's now July 18th correct and you're working for nothing now you don't have a contract right now I do not have a contract in place currently so you have extended I'm sorry you have extended or you haven't extended yet and I'm not picking on you sir it's not

your issue to come before us but we should as a committee do things the right way and vet things properly through subcommittee through having school department folks be involved in the process the interim director of transportation and Madam superintendent has she been aware of this process and has she worked on this throughout the year the validity of it anything like that no Mr pachico is the one that has been

involved in it how about yourself have you been I did attend one virtual meeting that they when they were starting the process so any questions related to school department vetting it and stuff there's nothing like are you asking me yeah I mean was that a question wasn't for you sir yeah what we've my contribution to this is to make sure that this agreement this five-year agreement

aligns with the procurement the 2035 if I'm not mistaken RFP 2035 which was a bit contract three and a half years ago a five-year bid contract three and a half years ago so this contract basically takes that language which is the important piece of the contract the language of what we're being provided how we're being how it's being provided and this agreement is more on the electrification side of

what the city is getting in return um more or less in in that agreement and to cover the next five years for the infrastructure um investment so there's a million dollars worth of infrastructure that will be installed at the vendor's location and part of the grant is that it's a five-year a five-year deal so in order to pull this off we couldn't pull it off with a different company other than

maybe tremblies that provides US service except the vehicles that Tremblay uses is currently um I don't want to say not available but have not been vetted enough that tremblies is willing to jump on board with electrification as of yet so right now whaling is the only option for this so I looked at the contract to be sure that we were doing following that contract that was procured

via 30b and then the rest of it is is part of the agreement that was negotiated with whaling for the electrification cost so that as part of part of this agreement is what whaling will be paying the city for the buses so the school department piece of this has not been much the school department piece has been the making sure the contracts align and obviously determining which vendor

would be the best option for the city school department um because of the service that's being provided so it's the only option that we technically had with buying the buses that were going to be used for our special ed transportation um and the fact that we had a vendor that still had a year and a half left of a contract currently has a year and left a year and a half left of a contract

so we're looking for an extension on that contract we couldn't do that with our other vendor because that worked that process has to be a 30-b process and we can't negotiate a contract until it's one year or less a left and a current contract yeah so when we originally went out for the Special Ed I don't didn't we do 30b for both and then we didn't have to the reason why we did it was because we

were trying to get all of the work based on the one contractor so the way the the way the procurement went we were we categorized the the work which is never done before in any other contract we took the work we broke it into pieces and then the vendor would bid on the particular piece of work this it so happens that this vendor bid on the majority of that and did not have another vendor that was

even close on the dollars yeah no I I get it and I'm not picking on the vendor no no I understand so when we went out for the original five-year bid yes well that Whaling City received yes was that 30b or not yes it was right it was when I said the no bid contract piece so we went out for three and a half years ago or whatever it was for a 30 B

contract and they won the bid yes now we're not going out with 30b even though they had a year and a half still left on that particular contract we're not going up the bid because we need a spot to put the infrastructure in so the buses can't be delivered to the award winner the city unless there's a place that the buses can be charged yep that's part of the agreement

so there's no way that we can make an investment with a contractor without knowing for sure that they're going to have a five-year deal I understand so for months now or probably over a year as I've been coming before this committee and asking for updates on what's going on with this electric bus we're going to have a say we should have a say I've been saying that for over a year now

now it's middle of July where we're under pressure to say we have to do this now otherwise we can't accept the money that the city already accepted because the city signed contracts to do this with those eight except those grants without the approval of the school committee is that true or not true but needing the school committee approval now after the fact needing a school committee approval for the bus

contract nothing to do with the electrification correct so if the school committee wasn't if it was none of our business as has been told and we weren't going to be part of it we apparently have to be part of it in order for this to come to fruition we need a contract in place yes and it that contract is therefore no bid legally no bid but it's still no bid yes

that's the part that concerns and the contract follows the bid contract yep no I get it so can you help to figure out what for the year and a half left on the contract with that vendor how much money they were going to make and how much money it is now if we approve this like what is what is the difference we're not paying them the same amount that we were we're reducing

we're reducing the amount that we're getting paid and then the city is going to pay that bill what is that amount um I I I'm not sure if Rich can I don't have that number do you understand what I'm saying though there's got to be less right yeah the city will get a credit of 25 per day per bus for the electric bus say that again the city will receive a credit on the

transportation the current contract contract of 25 per day per bus and how much money does that come out to per year about 255 000 over the five years for five years correct over five fifty thousand dollars per year roughly how many buses if I'm the vendor how many buses am I not going to have to run in order to get this to work the contract takes 10 old diesel buses

out of service and replaces them with 10 electric buses and for that the city is going to get fifty thousand dollars a year based on this 25 25 per day per bus Which you just said was fifty thousand dollars per year roughly so if I'm the vendor I had done a bit based on a certain number and I had to buy how much does the bus cost 362 800 one bus one electric bus no a

diesel bus oh roughly a little over a hundred thousand dollars so they're going to get a million dollars in buses that they no longer have to utilize over the course of the five years and we're going to get 50 000 a year the city is going to get 50 000 a year roughly does anybody think that's a great idea whether a good bang for your buck no no can you please look at it this way

the city is benefiting by replacing 10 volt diesel buses with electric buses at no cost to the city were you the lead negotiator on this contract I'm sorry were you the lead negotiator on this contract yes so when I just asked that you think it's a good deal you said no but now you're telling us that you were the one that was the lead negotiator on this to give us 50 Grand to give the

city a fifty thousand dollar savings and they're reducing 10 buses yes how do those things align out of those two statements align they align from the standpoint that if it were a diesel bus a new diesel bus the cost of the capital cost built into the cost per day per bus is approximately 25 dollars per day per bus so for the contractor to be involved with electric buses they're replacing their Capital cost

with the cost of the electric bus and you're telling me that number is 25 a day so there whatever the amount is per day of the bus and you're saying the capital of that is only twenty five dollars pretty close right don't we require that they have new buses I'm sorry don't we require now that they have to keep updating their buses they can run buses for up to 10 years on the contract

and what other vendors Capital costs were uh that's the capital cost for a for this type of a bus a diesel bus a diesel bus across the industry or if it was a 71 passenger bus the capital cost would be a little more can you clarify again whether you think this is a good deal how do you think this is a good deal I'm having trouble understanding you can you clarify again

why you think this is a good deal it's a good deal because just because we're saving that a little bit the it's a good deal for the city primarily because the city gets to take advantage of current funding through the EPA and CEC for elimination of 10 diesel buses running inner city at absolutely no cost in the EPA and the CEC grants are not designed for the city to make money they're designed to improve the

infrastructure air quality of inner cities at no cost to the school to the school district or out to the city that's what it's designed for it's not designed to help the district there's some incidental savings which we'll see primarily because the cost of electricity is less than the cost of diesel fuel the city will see a benefit when they do the the diesel annual fuel calculations

they'll see a benefit there I can't judge you how much it'll be they'll also be in the future less maintenance because the maintenance on electric buses is less than the maintenance on school buses so are you implying that the city pays the diesel the there's no implying that the city pays with diesel there's a fuel escalator in the school contract escalator de-escalator with regard to the cost of fuel

benchmarked to July of 2020.

okay how much is it going to cost them for the electric I don't know what the cost of the electricity will be at so when you said that Capital cost is 25 per day the the estimate from uh from EPA and the experience coming from the consultants for EPA are that the cost of electricity is substantially less than the cost of diesel fuel mile per mile hour for hour of operation okay so if

you run the if you have the vendor there's a number that you say how much is it per day for diesel fuel to run correct correct what is that I don't know what that is has that ever been asked when negotiations were going on with the city we could calculate based on the mileage that every bus runs every day what the what the fuel usage is every day but we didn't do that and

it would come up with a number right you'd come up with a number yeah do you have those calculations no have you ever asked those calculations no does the city have those calculations no not that I know of how much is it projected to cost for electric for the vendor I'm sorry for to do it with electric how much is it going to cost a vendor for electric yeah it'll it'll cost the

electrical cost will go to the vendor correct and there'll be less of a fuel a fuel cost can you show us that analysis actually I can I don't have it in what's given you but National Grid did send us an analysis of what the fuel cost would or what the electricity would cost both demand and non-demand charges so do you understand the point that I'm trying to make no I don't okay

so if the vendor is now using the 25 per day as the reason why they're only going to pay the city fifty thousand if their fuel cost was higher under diesel there's actually a savings so when they bid the job back whenever there's a number how much you get per day to calculate it if that number is let's say it was going to cost them for these 10 buses fifty thousand dollars

and the buses and out the electric would be 25. isn't that a number that should have been calculated to get more savings it gets calculated when you do your annual fuel escalation de-escalation because the amount of diesel fuel being used will be less because they're using electricity in that particular year but in that same in that same number there's no we didn't have electric buses

so it can be comparing it to something that didn't exist I'm not following you is the vendor going to save more money on gas or electric for the next five-year contract are they saving money I don't know whether they're saving money so you said that there was the gas was more expensive than the electric diesel they did a job based on gas and you're telling me that for those 10

buses we never we don't know what and if there was going to be a savings that they're going to have that should have been given to the city no I'm not saying that so there will be a savings there will be savings to the city on fuel escalation de-escalation because the amount of diesel fuel used will be less the cost of the contract for the vendor is what I'm asking you

is the vendor making more money on this than what you're giving to the city what they're going to give this I do not know what what whaling City's profit margin is and you this year this year or next year all I know is that there are some inherent costs of running electric buses that are in excess of diesel buses one of which is the insurance for 365 000 electric bus is significantly more than

the insurance on a diesel bus and therefore that was included as a provision in the extension in the supervision where where can I where can I find that language that we're going to pay it or

you said that's part of the contract I misspoke it because the city self-operate are self-insured there was no cost differential but it was something that we discussed Madam superintendo may I ask you a question yes being the CEO of the school department do you think this is a good deal and do you think that this was properly proposed vetted by our people on the school side to know the answers to some

of these questions and do you think that there's some concern that with the information that was presented Mr agya that's really not the issue here the issue is the contract and I've listened to you now for probably 10 or 15 minutes and you know what word never came out of your mouth students not the lower reducing the rate of asthma in our kids not the noise pollution not the effect of a

grubby diesel vehicle sometimes running around kids in Special Needs they are more predisposed to be affected by that but all you've talked about is the process of the contract and you don't talk about the fact that this is a grant from the EPA which we're not paying for and we're not going to gain a lot from it but we're going to make the city cleaner we're going to hopefully make

the kids a little healthier and we're going to move the debate down the road we're online for another 15. I hope that we have a similar process when we do that but when I go voting for a contract like this to put our students on an electric bus the only person I'm voting for is the students you get hung up on the process a lot of times with this stuff and it's amazing to me that you

don't see the benefit to our kids riding on a clean quiet bus back and forth you'd rather talk about who's going to make what how did it go this is in front of us we can do it now let's get the ball rolling if you want to be on the one for the next 15 I have no problem we're we're already applying and we're trying to move this debate and if if as

Mr lapree told you we're lucky and fortunate as a community to get 15 or 20 buses a year when they start Mass producing them we're going to be right in line and if the federal government's willing to help our kids to keep them in a more clean quieter environment I have no idea in the world why anyone would vote against that and of all you hung up on his process you should give

me a call because we we believe that this will help a lot of things offering backup power sources Children's Health reduce the disproportionate burden that pollution puts on some of our underserved communities one of the most underserved communities in the city is Columbia Street if we can go and take two or three small steps to clean the air down there for a grant when we're not paying for it I have no idea why you

would vote against that to me it's amazing if the process is when it hangs you up you should talk to me about the process my point is getting clean electric buses on the streets to move our children whatever else you're focused on and trying to trap this gentleman with question after question is not helping our kids my point is this is done for the children you you ask your questions on process and you stay

there all night long and we'll listen and we'll shake our heads and say he's right he's wrong but that's not given us a cleaner ride for the kids you never during that whole time you were talking spoke about students you talked about process and you've never called me about process so my point is this is in front of us tonight we have the opportunity to take some tentative first steps to get

ourselves into this electric bus business I think it's a good thing for the community and I think it's a good thing for the kids so once again you come forth with what we call a red herring argument no because what that means is you take an issue and you don't want to address the issue so you divert it to be whatever else The Narrative that you want my question was very simple to the

superintendent in the schools it had nothing to do with a question to you Mr chairman and I'd like the superintendent to have an opportunity to answer my question she doesn't have to answer that question she can answer for herself I asked her a question she can answer it you can raise your voice if that makes you sound better go right ahead she doesn't have to answer the question she

can choose not to answer let her speak please this the point is this is helping the children in Fall River and you're hung up on process you have not said one negative thing about our kids riding an electric bus these are free buses for the city of Fall River with the potential for many more I'm hoping that we can flip this whole Fleet in 10 years whatever your goal is to try to disrupt

this meeting by putting this gentleman on the hot spot and raising your voice so people know you're angry when no one really looks at it that way it's an issue to make kids safer and cleaner uh health-wise I don't know what the problem is I'm lost I'm superintendent would you like to answer my question did you ask it again please so my question is if you think that this process on behalf of the school

department as the CEO if you think that you and your people have been part of it enough to know whether this is vetted whether it's appropriate with any of the questions that I asked that we should feel safe in voting for this relative to some of the questions I ask and some of the lack of analysis that has been proven that has happened here I think that the process it doesn't fall

under me I do think Mr Pacheco has been part of those discussions weren't involved anything that had to do with our children in regards to the contract as far as I think it's a good idea because it will help our kids but I do think that there's information there were good questions that were raised today but I I think that the process is determined by the city because they're the ones who are proposing to flip the

diesel buses into electric buses we don't we don't determine where a vendor purchases a new bus whether it's diesel or electric they don't we don't have a say in that as a school department so when when we talk about the finance for transportation we've heard time and time again from the mayor that the soil cost of transportation is too great the cost of transportation is too great

my questions here I think are very valid and they're asking about how much money is the vendor going to save over the course of the contract to see if the actual amount in the contract is going to be reduced by an equivalent amount now I think that's a valid question to be asked and I think if the school department who this contract is with does not have those answers I don't understand why we wouldn't

ask those questions ahead of time to know that if the vendor was going to save half a million dollars a year the equivalent amount of money should be less a half a million dollars is that not a valid no it's not valid and let me explain why the cost per day per bus includes a number of things other than the capital cost most of the cost per day per bus is

tied up in salaries and wages for drivers overhead facilities fuel insurance and other fixed costs those all costs remain regardless of the bus that's that's being used so her cost per day per bus on The Whaling City does not get reduced because it's an electric bus because they're already giving away the 25 per day for Capital cost that would have been included if it were a diesel

bus so their cost is relatively neutral given the extension of the agreement they're not saving any additional money and that analysis is where I've just told you right now you've never given that analysis to Mr pachico who is in charge of Transmissions I was aware aware of the analysis and the discussions with Whaling City through the through the the process of negotiating the extension for the agreement

I won't speak for him he can speak for himself Mrs Ponce do you have a copy of that analysis because I've never seen it as a member of the school committee no we have not shared that with you I don't have one so no I do not Mr Pacheco sure so the conversation has been that a couple of things number one bringing electric buses into play um is a good thing

for the environment but it is not a great thing for The Operators the sooner or later they're going to have to replace these buses because at some point the biggest expense on an electric bus is the batteries and then when the batteries go you get a brick sitting in your yard that you need to spend thousands of dollars hundreds of thousands of dollars to get back going into an operating piece of equipment

so this whole process has not been I don't want to say it hasn't been embraced by the bus companies they're looking at sooner or later this was going to be something that was going to probably happen kind of like the electrification of buildings trying to get rid of fossil fuels and buildings oil heating gas heating the same situations happening with our vehicles all of the incentives so many vehicles

now electric powered are Fleet in in nutrition is already being electric so what I'm saying is is that the the bus companies are going to get involved in this because they know they're going to have no choice and eventually this will be the only thing available for the exact reasons why they're starting this program now for cleaner air as far as the analysis I think that when it comes time to change these buses

over after 10 years whatever that life expectancy is going to be an awful lot of money that it's going to cost these bus companies to do that we are going to get that course then we don't have that cost right now there are 10 buses that are going to come off the road 11 buses whatever our exchange is um and they will not be used for our students those buses will have to be used as part

of this agreement for 10 years after five years it was the the agreement with the EPA and with CEC as far as the analysis I have not seen the analysis I've seen what everyone else has seen I've watched different um podcasts from the different organizations which is what we've seen in all of this the Whaling City piece of this whole thing is a piece of property sitting in Westport which is their terminal and

the process moves in construction the process moves very slow however of course this process moved a little quicker than we had anticipated and National Grid is a big part of that and National Grid is absolving a bunch of costs because they see this coming down the road as going to be something they need to get involved in with all of the bus companies so they're ready to go more or less

and that process is going to happen relatively quickly the buses cannot be dropped off they stay at a vendor until we have a charging station that those buses has come down to and be charged and be put into the fleet that process is going to be a slower one as the buses get delivered to us over the next year however the pros process for the infrastructure is now and again like I said it moved quicker

than we all anticipated um those those buses won't be ready for September they won't be ready October or November but at some point in the course of this year big buses are going to be ready to roll and the infrastructure has to be there and whaling is our only option to do that currently um from my standpoint where I stand where I sit in my job this duties um and our Transportation directed to be did not

have any involvement in this because at the time she wasn't our she wasn't what she she is today so that's why she was not involved however moving forward she will have involvement along with the management at whaling to see where these buses are going to serve what's the best routes for these buses time wise and how all of that's going to fall into place um back to to um Mr aggiel's question I don't have any

analysis I have what I've seen um and to be totally honest at the end of all of this I think the 25 a day piece is a token an exchange so to speak when we have contracts and we say for a dollar we're going to do this this that's all it is it's not going to be this extravagant amount of money nor was it ever meant to be the purpose is clean air and not

um any kind of uh the city recouping dollars it was never meant to be that on the other side of the coin I do believe that whaling and along with any other company that takes this on has some expenses as Mr Liberty said the insurance is a big one the cost of electricity um depending on when you're charging and if you're going to hit peak hours that's going to be an issue that's on them not

on us they're going to have to figure that piece out I know the diesel we've paid more for diesel for quite some time now and that is an escalator that we pay it's in the contract that as as the diesel price goes up we pay that extra I pay the difference between where we started and where we are today if very seldom goes down a couple of times in my seven years six and a half

years here it's gone down not enough to make a difference and when it goes up it usually goes up a lot more than it ever went down so we are paying an escalator for diesel um and that piece will be a different situation for us and again all we have is what the utility companies have done for this they all have people who sit on these um committees for this These funds

and they're all involved in what it's costing for peak hours what it's costing for regular electricity and they're coming up with the reason why this is the way we should be going they're trying to put a financial or an economic spin on this and not just a clean air um and that's why they're they're involved heavily in in all of these um podcasts and obviously in in what Mr LaBrie has been putting together and

that opportunity for us to be in this 10-year um money trained so to speak and and replacing a fleet of over 100 buses is doable and it would never ever be doable without these grants and without taking this risk so what is what else is the um in the contract that we should know about as far as so there's nothing else in the contract the agreement is basically spelling out all the electrification

piece there's also a portion in there that is talking about um good faith effort on negotiations which is what we would put in in any contract um that you know if this if this whole thing happens to go Haywire that we will sit at the table and talk you know and talk out the situation um the bus company is giving up 10 buses 10 buses that they bought and paid for

and in order to get an electric bus they have to turn one in sell it um or dispose of it I can't stay on the road so they're losing Equity that that Equity that's already paid for and they're gaining these electric buses but there is a cost to what they're gaining it's it's girls saying about you know nothing's free these buses are going to them at no cost but there is a lot of cost on their

side with their mechanics and we're all the infrastructure that they have to uh so what are we proven and and because the city owns the buses and will continually own those buses for their life as well as the infrastructure the contractor loses the ability to depreciate them uh which is a big savings to them on their costs so they're losing the business depreciation because they will not own the buses

one of the things that that Ken brought up uh was a National Grid we were informed today we had applied to National Grid as you know we have to bring new service into the into the facility for electric buses uh it's a uh it's a 480 volt uh service that needs to come across the street National Grid has we applied to their uh EV Make Ready program because the utilities have incentives from the federal government

also to participate with school districts and we were told earlier today that our application has gone from pending to uh make ready which means that we're now at a position where we can call National Grid and actually schedule this installation to be completed but we did not want to do that until after the school committee meeting tonight Mr pachico so the the contract that's what we're voting on so the ad so the

yeah the the is it the whole contract or just for 10 buses it's the contract is just the agreement so it's the whole contract it is the entire contract extension from what we currently have and how much more money is that costing the cost per day doesn't change yeah it's not changing it's it's the there is a um I'm sure there's a cola built into the contract as all our contracts do now

and that analysis has been done to see how much that money that's going to cost doesn't change it hasn't changed right so it's going to remain what it is with the exception of but it's going to be five percent more every year according to this as as the current one was right so we're given a new contract is my point a total new contract not just for the 10 buses no we're extending it's a total new

contract to to win five more years like five percent yes per year yes what else is in here that we we should know about before we vote so we're extending it for five years yes is there other extensions for 10 years no we're not there's always Everyone is always looking for a five and five so that's the new thing across the industry we're issuing a five-year contract there is no promise of another five

okay and then what happens after the five if we discontinue if so the issue would be whether or not the next contract the next um allotment of funds as the mayor said that the next round and as Mr LaBrie said the next round of buses will have its own I'm sure its own rules and regulations that go along with it it is the same program however I'm sure that there are

some issues that came up in this round that they're going to correct I'm just asking on the behalf of the school committee I understand so in this agreement that we're signing not the part about new grants and more grants than any of that stuff what would the cost be if we terminated this contract after five years there was there was we are right we are on buses the cost the cost would be to

remove the infrastructure and remove the Chargers and relocate them to whoever has the contract after five years and do you know how much that would cost I don't is it show up money or it would be it's five years from now I have no idea what it what it would cost to remove 782 thousand dollars worth of infrastructure and Chargers and the 25 you said is a reduction in the daily rate

the 25 per day per bus reduction in the current and future cost per day per bus because it says in here the cost per day for bus will not change whether it's an electric bus or a diesel bus with the exception that for the 10 electric buses the city will receive a credit of 25 per day per bus the following year if we're successful and we get an additional 15 buses those

15 buses will generate a credit of 25 per day per bus that's not just this year that's each year that they're in operation to lease it is basically the five years and possibly over 10 years because the life of the bus is 10 years the warranty on the batteries for the buses which is the big concern uh is for eight years I understand I'm just asking the question on in the contract which is

probably Mr patico con this is the contract that we're approving the agreement and it says at least cost of 25 a day it doesn't show anywhere in here what the cost per day of the buses because it's it's referring back to the current contract correct it's in the current contract right the current content we're not trained we're not changing it the current contract is the document that we're going to be operating under

this agreement allows us to extend the contract and put the electrification specifications to it I guess the point I'm just making is the only thing that this school committee I'm sitting here as an elected member of the school committee this is the only document I have this is the only document that I have it says from the city of Fall River I received nothing from the school department

no analysis no new contract no nothing there is no new contract though there is no new contract it's the exact same contract that was approved by this committee three years ago analysis A one-pager like we do with everything else that's my point is this process stinks it wasn't the right way to go about the process from the school department I've said it all along the mayor can change whatever he wants about

a red herring argument my comments here are based on what the school department was given and we were given nothing we were given nothing for the last year including what you just admitted Mr Pacheco and I appreciate your honesty you don't have any analysis on this so far and I appreciate your honesty this is a tough spot for you to be in because the city got the grant never came to the school department and then

now we're just getting it thrown on us I appreciate your honesty I'm not voting for it because of that reason and with that I yield okay

let me see it do I have a motion in a second then you can talk just a comment not a question but it feels like this is a very beleaguered conversation we've been sitting here for like 40 minutes talking about the process it feels contentious but it's really because we haven't had the opportunity to ask those questions earlier and had we done that then it wouldn't have felt this way in in this

particular meeting so I'm just saying that I don't think anyone disagrees that this is the way things are going it's not like we have a whole lot of a choice but when we do ask for updates on what this looks like to be told that we really don't have any say in it and then be asked to vote for something just feels like a um it feels disingenuous I don't know that

that's the word I'm looking for but it doesn't feel if I could I I would offer to any members of school committee if you'd like to sit with me and look at the process and go through the process I'd be happy to show you the site show you the process uh you know everything that we've done through the city has been transparent uh it's been uh through City purchasing to acquire the buses and

acquire the Chargers was publicly bid under 30b so that process all went through in February and March and it took us a while to renegotiate the the agreement with EPA to go from what was originally written was a series of big buses and small buses to 10 relatively large buses and get that approved and that was just recently recently approved but as an afterthought I would be happy

to appear you know before the committee at your leisure at your discretion to update as we go forward with the process and hopefully we go for forward with the process and I have no doubt that you've been transparent with the city about what that process looks like the point is that we didn't get that information and so then to sort of come back almost a year later being asked to vote on

something that we really weren't privy to yeah there's going to be about 40 minutes worth of questions because we didn't get a chance all along to ask those questions and so it does feel contentious it does feel like oh my gosh we're being attacked here but again had we known had we had that opportunity it wouldn't have looked like this so I'm just pointing that out there that again

I don't think anyone is disagreeing that having an electric bus that's better for the kids and better for the environment sure but again we are responsible for vetting things right and we can't do that unless we're provided with an opportunity to ask those questions I can't ask questions if I know somebody if I don't know somebody exists right I can't just randomly put questions out into the abyss so with

that I yield okay I have a motion and a second to approve the five-year contract with Wheeling city for the electric buses Deb would you please call the roll Mr Ogden no Mr Bailey Mr Hart yes Miss laravey yes Miss Pereira yes Mr Roderick I'm saying no right now mayor Coogan yes next item up on the agenda is for your information we have a number of retirements to accept presidents of death I

um I have a motion a second Deb would you please call the roll that's right yes Mr Bailey Mr Hart yes yes do we have any new business to come before the committee hearing none um Mr Assad do we have a request for executive session there would be oh man you want to read it sure National laws chapter 38 section 2187 to review and approve the executive session minutes for June 12 2023 regular school

committee meeting National laws chapter 38 section 21a3 to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining relative to all administrators and employees represented by the Fall River administrative associations the chair was determined an open session may have a detrimental impact on the bargaining position of the committee national awards chapter 38 section 2183 to discuss strategy with the respect to

collective bargaining relative to All Professional teaching employees affordable School System including coaches Title One teachers nurses occupational physical therapist and specialists in a teaching profession represented by the four of Educators associations that chairs determine no possession may have a detrimental impact on a bargaining position of the committee National laws chapter 38 section 2182 to

conduct strategy sessions of preparation for negotiations with non-union personnel and or to conduct contract negotiations with non-union Personnel including Sandra Silva payroll manager Christine ABDO procurement specialist Deborah Cavallo director of Transportation Charisse Brooks Robert L Medeiros resiliency Preparatory Academy principal we would reconvene it wouldn't May and may not be statements at that time

can I get a motion in a second dad have a motion in a second Deb please call the roll yes yes Mr Bailey Mr harp yes Miss laravey yes Miss Pereira Miss rodericks yes mayor yep adjourned to executive

but back from executive session that please call the roll Mr agya here Mr Bailey Mr Hart here miss laravey here miss Pereira yeah Miss Roderick here mayor Coogan yeah anything further to come before the committee Mr Mayor Mr Hart a motion to approve the executive session minutes with June 12 2023 of the regular school committee meeting need a second second discussion Deb please call the roll Mr

again abstain because I wasn't there Mr Bailey Mr Hart yes laravey yes Miss Pereira yes Miss rodericks yes mayor Kruger yes Mr Mayor Mr Hart motion to approve Sandra Silva's contract as negotiated second I have a motion this second any discussion Dad please call the roll Mr AG yeah yes Mr Bailey Mr harp yes Miss laravee yes Miss Pereira yes Miss Roderick yes mayor Coogan yes Mr Mayor Mr Hunt a motion to approve

Christine abdel's contract as negotiated second motion Second Step please call the rule Mr Dragon yes Mr Bailey Mr Hart yes Miss laravee yes Miss Pereira yes Miss Rodricks yes very Coogan yes and one more Mr Hart motion to approve Deborah Cavallo's contract as negotiated second I have a motion a second any discussion Deb please call the roll let's try again yes Mr Bailey Mr Hart yes Miss laravee

yes Miss Pereira yes Mr rodericks yes mayor Coogan yes motion to adjourn second Deb call the wall please let's try again yes Mr Bailey Mr Hart yes Miss laravee yes Miss Pereira yes Miss Roderick yes mayor Coogan yes