The Fall River Traffic Board convened on July 20, 2022, with Thomas Farris serving as chair in Sergeant Dolan's absence. The meeting began with citizen input regarding traffic safety concerns in the Maplewood neighborhood. Richard Souza and Melissa Ozinois requested four-way stop signs at Gratton, Frost, and Stockton at the intersection of Renard Street due to speeding and multiple accidents, including a bread truck incident and vehicles hitting property. Officer Farris explained the complexities of four-way stops and advised a formal written request for speed and collision data review. Another resident requested the speed limit on Stockton Street be reduced from 30 mph to 25 mph, which Officer Farris approved immediately. The board approved the minutes from the June meeting. They denied a request for no parking signage at 409 Tecumseh Street due to the resident's absence and later denied it again after discussion, citing concerns about setting a precedent for residents to avoid paying for curb cuts. A request from the Greater Fall River Community Food Pantry for loading zone signs at 235 Nashua Street was approved, with the board agreeing to extend the zone to 30-35 feet. Discussion also took place regarding the previously approved removal of stop signs on McGowan Street at Knight Street and Fielding Street; the board decided to proceed with removal one intersection at a time. Numerous requests for handicapped parking spots were reviewed. Four requests were tabled due to the applicants' absence. Seven handicapped parking spots were approved for residents at 544 North Underwood Street, 241 Pine Street, 106 Hudson Street, 76 Holden Street, 192 Bayley Street, and 75 Balwell Street. Additionally, the board approved a request from the Mayor's office for two handicapped spots on Brownell Street and one on Remington Street to serve veterans visiting a newly completed memorial wall. Finally, the board approved the rescinding of several existing handicapped parking spaces due to individuals no longer utilizing them.
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okay good afternoon my name is thomas farris from the city of florida police department i'll be uh standing in his chair for sergeant dolan who is tied up with a dignitary who is in town pursuant to the open law meeting any person and making audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or transmissions are
0:24being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible today is the 20th of july we'll do a roll call helen rigo natalie mello here charlie deadman president and officer tom ferris president oh and sergeant dolan sergeant golan absent not available how could i forget him
1:11do you want to do citizen input first oh okay does anyone have any citizen input other than uh for what's on the agenda today okay will you come back to that oh no he can already come sure if you want to come right down down sure and then he could give us your name and what you would like to tell us my name is richard souza and i'm representing the maple maplewood neighborhood excuse me association
1:40we're here because of uh another people other people in our neighborhood is going to be asking for a stop sign we want to back that up because we uh we see so many traffic problems on three particular streets that they are technically flying down and mine isn't speeding oh they still just want to clarify what you mean right so that's all i need okay you want me to talk now you want me to
2:15talk about what streets do you uh are you talking gratton frost and stockton okay
2:29and you want additional stop signs there yes we'd like to see four four-way stop signs on those three streets at the intersection of rivad renard street rather right because it's it's you would have you could make so much money by stopping these no we're not in the business of making money or torturing the public well then enforcing the law um officer faris so bernard was um addressed or no it was denied
3:01um due to no you know accidents or anything like that right so that's why this gentleman called and said he is more than welcome to come to the citizen input and discuss his um issues it is up to you if you want to let him know to put this in writing and it can go in our august um traffic board meeting right excuse me it was i was supposed to come last month
3:25i was supposed to come last month but i was told it could be table so i couldn't get the day off today the stop sign one yes she was working the uh the issue with four-way stops is this creates no right-of-way basically the stop signs act as what we perceive to slow people down a determinant um right there was a study i believe was either north northeast northwestern university or syracuse
3:55that found that people who have to stop the stop signs actually act in the opposite way or they will speed up to get to where they want to go the other issue with the right-of-way is this grant and frost and stockton are all right away streets that puts the onus on people coming out of side streets as a city police officer for over 25 years i can tell you that when there is
4:20a crash and there's a four-way stop we are unable to determine who commit a motor vehicle violation most of the time right what happens is your insurance company your insurance company will find you 50 50 unless you have a camera in a car however if you would like to put that in writing um and send it to the traffic department we can most certainly look at collisions on that street speeding on that stream what
4:48not we usually start out by putting a speed trailer out there to determine uh a medium speed now i don't know the date i know sergeant golden has addressed this um i've been in the traffic uh division for quite some time and i can tell you that i believe the medium speed on those streets was well under the posted speed limit we can revisit it again it's not a problem sure if it's an issue in a
5:13neighborhood we're certainly here to help the neighborhoods the edification they start at rodman street and they continue down with with it you can hear the cover it is open and they're just flying down there to see who can get to the bottom faster right understood and there's an issue there sir we will certainly address it we had uh we didn't video uh my friend didn't have a chance to video
5:43it but there were two guys on motor scooters not not the little ones the medium ones you know they were filming themselves doing wheelies with the helmets on with the helmets off and this goes on every week every night every morning it's every almost every day all around the city well i don't know i don't know about all the members of the city city and i can tell you whichever we can first of all
6:16we can tell you because we live there i live on kennedy my friend lives on frost she's been there 50 years at this particular intersection of renard and stockton it was a bread truck had an accident they had to pull this this truck out of this young lady's yard before now it wasn't today but it's been there before right so whatever you can do to help us absolutely sure as the association the president of the
6:52association is not be able to come tonight because we have a school a regular meeting and uh district attorney quinn is going to be a guest speaker could you create a formal request sure send it to uh laura's office indefinitely and uh i will i do have your notes i will speak with sergeant dolan and uh we should be able to get a couple of speed trailers out there to determine exactly how many cars what direction
7:22they're traveling in and the medium speed there and we'll determine if they're if we have one one last question the city bought 41 cameras for the police department could they utilize those cameras one of those cameras on these streets or switch them from street to street i don't have that information sir excuse me i don't have that information i don't know oh i know because it went out for a bit and i was
7:44part of that bid for forty-one campaigns what i'm saying is i don't have the information on whether or not they can put cameras oh okay all right shall we you're all set uh thanks for doing the park a little bit uh we gotta get i i didn't know that the uh meeting was at the park board last week but i'll have to talk to you again we're good to go thank you sure thank you
8:08thank you very much yes sir do you mind if i speak my uh so my name's melissa ozinois uh i live at the corner of stockton and renaud street uh in the past year there has been three major accidents there one the person across the street in the past year like all right not california yeah it's all data we're gonna check okay three major motor vehicle collisions yes stockton and renault one um
8:42one hit the stone wall of my neighbor's house and he had to get the stone wall replaced uh one came into my yard and i had to remove a tree over it because it knocked it over and then i came home from work one day and i guess the street had been blocked for three hours because there was a car diagonally across i'm sorry horizontally across stockton street uh now of course everybody has
9:13the little fender benders here and there and that's kind of whatever that's living on a street uh but i do have i do have my nieces that come over from time to time and i'm so afraid for them to play in the yard because i know how forceful these accidents can be and i i completely understand i work on an ambulance i understand what you're saying about the stop signs and all that
9:38kind of stuff i just think it would reduce the force of the accidents uh which would actually make me very happy and with the school i think it would it would help the parking because it would give them the stop line to be like okay i can't park that close to the corner the school parks all the way down the side which they don't really cause problems they just park too close to the corner and
10:03you can't see to get off but i can go a different way it's not a big deal um i just i think i think it would reduce the force of the accidents even though i do my yard work on fridays and i see people run the stop signs all of the time so that's had you uh sent a request to well that's the one that was denied a lot yes i
10:27i wasn't able uh i work until six o'clock at night and i didn't know when these meetings were so i couldn't i couldn't get the day off in time so i got today off not realizing it was already denied uh and i just i can't i won't be able to get the next story over there and we did the trailers at one point two speed of of what's going on here if they're uh
10:51you know if we have an over abundant amount of vehicles operating well above the hosted speed limit um we can certainly get the numbers on that we can get the numbers on what collisions we've had at that particular intersection yeah i don't i don't remember the date of when the stone wall was hit but i know mine was in october we'll be able to find out the circumstances of that if it was
11:12speed related or whether it was somebody who's operating on the influence of drugs or alcohol or whatever the case may be okay okay thank you thank you man
11:30i'm the one who sent you the lengthy email this week from the synopsis of what is going on within the neighborhood to give you uh the same neighborhood exactly i am i live right in the middle of stockton street so i am the uh the recipient of the traffic violations of speeding um we have a posted speed limit on my street of 30 miles an hour which i think is erroneous what would you like sir
11:54well i'd like it i like it consistent with the other streets within the neighborhood because i'm parallel uh stockton street is parallel with rodman street and renard street which are both posted at 25 miles per hour a greater traffic streets on either side are going to be jefferson street and stock and uh stafford road which are posted at 25 miles an hour stockton street is posted at 30 miles an hour
12:19we can change we'll change that to 25.
12:21okay so i think that i don't see an issue there that's one reason that's no one with that at all perfect with the advent of the uh atlanta school being developed stockton street has become a right-of-way to the property well it becomes a main thoroughfare because there's no other you know exactly the ways to get it it becomes the main thoroughfare and it meet and becomes the main outlet from people either coming
12:46from either direction on jefferson street what happens is they come around the corner from jefferson street onto stockton street and they speed up the street at the following intersection not bernard but rodman street is a school daycare center right yeah the johnny boyd center i grew up in the street my parents were on the train my great-grandmother parents grew up in street i've been there for generations
13:10within the last couple of decades especially the last decade the traffic has increased exponentially okay sorry exactly i'm not as concerned with the traffic flow as i am as the the amount of uh cars that are speeding up and down the street right at rodman's at renard street and stockton street i feel and i have i am no expert in this area i am just a an observer if at least there was a traffic sign
13:37stopped there there's also a traffic stop at the next intersection and stockton and ryden is already a forward start it's a full waste okay if there was another far away stop at rodman at renown street in stockton street that's going to solve the problem i didn't say we solve the problem it will help with the problem okay because the traffic will hopefully slow down there and as they come up to the next
13:59intersection they will have to stop because there's a forward stop there right now they have a speedway from rodman street all the way down the jefferson street well we're gonna we can put a trailer out and we'll be able to tell you how many cars traverse that street we'll be able to tell you the medium speed of all those cars and we're also going to be able to give you a percentage of how many cars are
14:19operating within the speed limit so i have your notes and uh i promise you we'll we'll certainly look into it and have some numbers for you by the next meeting all right and i i miss vera i sent you an email if that could be sent along to the appropriate uh department so they can understand the the lengthy uh argument that i'm making in this capacity i would very much appreciate you're a resident
14:40there i'm a resident but i have an elderly mother who walks around the block absolutely and she has had a few near missed experiences and i don't want to lose anyone in the neighborhood because i lose anybody either so i'd like us to work together on this absolutely of course all right thank you very much thank you sir is there anyone else for citizen input so now it's the approval of the minutes from june yes so
15:07let's approve the minutes from the june uh june meeting traffic meetings and then motion and a motion to approval second oh motion to approve and you can second it second all right segmented by natalie to approve the minute from the june meeting second it down okay you got it natalie mellow yes charlie and officer farris yes that wasn't painful that wasn't painful at all now you just
15:57go right all right so we have a request for handicapped spots the first is 411 4th street well you want to do the miscellaneous those are the ones the very first one on the job yeah those are the ones those are the ones that didn't show up last uh last month uh request from a resident of four or nine december street for no parking signage outside of residence driveway the resident has a wide driveway and
16:26there is a six foot curving that vehicles park and obstruct the driveway anyone here from 409 to kamsha so that's the second time no show so you have to make a motion to deny so make a motion to deny the signage at 409 tecumseh street motions tonight seconded by natalie roll call please natalie deny charlie tonight in office denied next was the traffic department to discuss the removal of stop signs
17:08from mcgowan street at knight street in mcgowan street at fielding street the item was approved at the july 2021 traffic board meeting okay so i i put this on here um that july meeting was the meeting that i was absent so natalie took the notes and i guess there was a discussion of removing those stop signs from mcgowan so mcgowan is the main thorough way mcgovern street is the main right-of-way
17:40um there was a study done there sergeant dolan reported that there was three collisions and one of them by somebody over correcting their steering and speed was not an issue in the other two my only concern is when removing these if something does happen or or or there's an accident i don't want it to come back to the city and say well there were stop signs there before and yet they were removed that's my only
18:14hesitation and i know sergeant dolan texts me once in a while they're still up and i travel that every day and i agree it's not a busy street um i mean i'm there every morning about seven o'clock in the morning what's the person's feet there it's 25 as well 25 as well i mean the other thing that i was thinking of is maybe we can move one at the section at a time instead of me doing
18:39the two of them uh you know let's take one out from fielding and see how that works and then we can take out the other one and see how that works instead of just going down there and removing these stop signs from a gallon that's my only concern i don't i don't think there's not that i know there's ever been something somebody involved in a collision bringing it back on the board or any individual member of
19:07uh the city of fall river saying hey we you know this was this and now it's not that i think we've we've done our due diligence and i'm recording facts of speed and recording facts of collisions that have occurred at those intersections and it's it's basically non-existent um and the other thing is that there's there's no way that anyone can be held liable for someone else's negligence and
19:30operating more vehicles and and i agree i don't think the stop signs belong there and and that's one of our arguments at all times and even if you discuss it with state mass d.o.t i've had several conversations with them and they totally they've come to the city and they've said you guys have stop signs where they shouldn't be well fall river is the city of stop you should not put stop sign on a main
19:54thorough way that's you know but i know it's a problem so my only concern was you know i'm gonna have this go through ordinance to have it removed but i'd like to do it like an intersection at a time like do one one month and you're doing the next month okay that's okay so we want to make a motion to remove one of the no i i mean i just brought it up because
20:16i i wanted to make sure because it's already reproved right it's already been so why don't you do that i just wanted to kind of like let you know what my concerns was you know once i remove it people are just gonna which it will be much better and all the side streets are the ones that have because all the other streets have stopped signs right they should night has a stop sign so all the
20:39other streets have a stop sign and not one on mcgowan so it's only those two intersections so if that's the case then that's what i'm going so going forward it's going to go to ordnance and then i'll take one and then i'll take the other and we'll be all set i will say this that there are some neighborhoods in which a four-way stop may assist in speeding and then we end
21:00up with the hey they're not stopping for the stop sign so it's you get the hey i don't want speeding but they're not speeding but they're not stopping for the stop sign i want a cop sitting at the intersection and i'm glad you brought that up the four-way stop sign the criteria is always children bicycles okay pedestrians so that's when you can really call for a four-way stop sign when that much activity that's why
21:26sometimes at schools you'll see four-way stop signs because you've got children crossing you've got parents crossing with children so you kind of have to have that fourth on speed speed learning so okay thank you all right there's a request from the greater fall river community food pantry for loading zone signs at 235 nashville street your letter addresses the situation
22:07the greater fall river community food pantry would like to request a loading zone sign at our location at 235 nashville street fall river mass we at times are having a problem loading and unloading product into our building and the extra space would be very nice and helpful we have clients lining up in our driveway to collect food and at other times we have two trucks unloading product in and out of our building
22:30we serve over 600 families monthly at our facility we are the fifth largest food pantry in the eastern part of massachusetts we'd like to thank you in advance david perry president of the greater fall river community food pantry which i think does an outstanding job
22:54do we usually uh set time for loadings on we do so um they didn't put it here but i can find out what their hours are and then we kind of go with what's already an ordinance and then we'll put um the correct signs up and then we'll do the measurements we'll probably go a little bit more than 20 to accommodate the trucks that go there and deliver them so we'll probably go like
23:1830. 35 feet so make a motion to uh the loading zone signs with a uh upon completion of a of um hours and a distance okay for the fall river community food pantry perfect anybody watch second a second seconded by charlie natalie yes charlie yes an office of paris yes
24:03right here we have request for uh handicapped parking spot at 411 4th street anybody here from 411 4th street the tenant is unable to utilize the driveway applicant does not drive and have a valid placket and registration is there someone here is there anybody here from 411 4th street so we automatically take so motion to our table 411 4th street for a handicap spot second natalie yes charlie
24:51yes and officer varys yes table please we have a request from 109 roberson street for a handicap spot anybody here from 109 robeson street 109 robeson street motion to our table 109 roberson street for handicap spot second charlie seconds roll call natalie yes charlie yes and officer farah yes tablet okay we have a request from the resident 656 mount hope avenue for a handicap spot
25:28anybody here from six five six mountain baths negative motion to table six five six mount hope avenue for a handicap spot exactly charlie seconds roll paul natalie yes charlie yes officer yes we have a request from 534 bird street for a handicap spot anybody here from 534 birth street oh they could not be here um the i think the daughter was supposed to come mom um had surgery so she couldn't be here so i don't know
26:10if you guys want to you know she just came on well it's up to you um she just came out of the hospital so there was no way she could be here let's take a peek here well i mean usually we table it right right but they contacted the office so i didn't hear anything from the other people so it's it's up to the board
26:41thank god did you send anything to them there to let them know they tell them the next meeting or it's up to the board if you want to do that we can definitely um i think then keeping in what we normally do we'll have to table this so motion to table 534 street to be fair to everybody second second and by charlie roll call natalie yes charlie yes and officer varys yes table
27:08a request from 544 north on the wood street yes sir all right you don't we we have your information here sir yeah i'm gonna be happy it's for your mom yes this is my house i couldn't have a driver you know does your mom drive she goes she does she has uh she has a licensing registration yes okay and it's in her name i can see that here yeah okay so the applicant does
27:38or says the applicant does not drive and has a valid plaque in the registry maybe that's just a takeoff
27:58so it's looking like she does dry she hasn't she could be a typo era when yeah i think it's probably typical yeah oh she does have an active placard um you're here you're right here
28:31so he recommended no he won't because this is from sergeant gilbert so it won't say that all right
28:54all right so 544 north underwood street everything looks in order the applicant has a valid plaque and registration is all no off-street parking i recommend approved with that motion to approve 544 north underwood street handicap spot second second invite charlie roll paul natalie yes charlie yes officer yes approved and uh can you do your spiel on uh so basically when when handy and it's
29:26just for anybody who's here for a handicap spot here's how it works anyone with a valid placket can um park in those spots so in other words you have your your signs up and you you your mom gets back and there's a vehicle parked in that spot with an active handicapped placket it's not specifically her spot so there are cases sometimes these happen at stores or restaurants and whatnot so it's not her spot it's a spot
29:54so anyone can park there with a valid placard we sometimes get calls with the police department of people talking uh in their spot so it's technically not their spot if there's no placard feel free to call us we'll send a car by and uh
30:20but it's just that it's not for a spot it's a smell okay and then the procedure what's going to happen is all the applications that are approved today for handicap probably next week you're going to see some maintenance guys doing the measurements so the second step is doing the measurements sending it down to um city council for them to refer to ordinance and then it gets approved in ordinance goes back
30:46to council we're talking about six to eight weeks before you see the signs go up okay thank you
30:58all right we have our request from 241 pine street right he's going to review the application oh yeah the applicant states that the driveway is much too narrow and has difficulties utilizing the driveway applicant does drive and has a valid plaque so what is it the uh the property owner's parking there is that it that's the issue i often uh i take care of my mom almost every day i go there check on her and
31:43take her shopping whatever and sometimes she drives but if i drive her car then i have to park her foot you know in front of her house let her out she's so slow anyhow while you wonderful men were apprehending the guy next door that killed the gentleman on rock street she had a fire in her kitchen we were barricaded and we couldn't leave because you know swat team canines everywhere
32:17anyhow fast forward two days later the smoke restoration people were there tearing everything out there were two vans parked in the driveway i borrowed my brother's car right next to ymca there's no parking here to corner right i left it there for two minutes while i brought her in the house i got a ticket it always seems to be too much i it was it was we were barricaded in the house for over
32:51an hour so here's your deal everything looks in order i'm going to recommend approve it uh motion to approve for uh 241 pine street 22nd second of my child's roll call natalie yes charlie yes and officer farris yes approve you're all set coming beef it's cold interesting yes you can go with you but it's freezing it's the same deal that you're up near um ymca is that it yeah all the way are you gonna remember that
33:21it's not her spot i know but they park all over the street i understand but i'm saying it's not her spot so if somebody with an active shot she hardly ever leaves really okay i drive her most of the time you're all set
33:46uh one zero six hudson street one zero six yes sir all right we have the application here you have an active placard
34:15all right so one zero six option streak
34:30right all right everything looks in order we're going to uh motion to improve 106 hudson street for handicap spot second motion charlie's seconds roll call natalie charlie yes and officer faris yes approved thank you so you're welcome again it's it's a spot not your spot and we've had some new houses built in the area and they're just pockets everywhere okay all right your thoughts are good to go thank you thank you
35:14holden street 76 holden street mm-hmm
35:42the the tenant is unable to utilize the driveway the applicant does drive he holds a valid placket in registration uh it shouldn't cause any issue with the parking on the street we'll recommend approval to a 76 holding street for a handicap spot second charlie seconds roll call natalie yes charlie yes and officer yes thank you okay folks thank you 192 bailey's sure and it's unable to use his driveway
36:23it does drive he holds a dollar placket and our registration
36:36is active
36:46and get those things in mind we do have a letter from the property owner that states he does not have a an off-street parking spot we'll recommend approval for 192 bayley street handicap spot second motion bali natalie yes charlie yes opposite parish yes approved you're all set sir yes sir 75 balwell applicant does drive and holds a valid plaque in the registration there's no offspring parking available
37:30applicant holds a valid placket an active license to that address and an active registration
37:55with no off street parking uh we're going to recommend approve a 75 wall street for a handicap spot natalie yes charlie yes and office of paris yes approved
38:27um that's it for handicap request officer paris before we go into the rescind yes um there's two items that i had put on the agenda one of them is regarding the bottom of brownell street where um remington street is as well where they just finished filling the wall right um i guess the state the city had requested the state to see if they could do a small parking lot so that veterans
38:56that would go and visit the wall had some way to park but unfortunately that didn't go through so through the mayor's office they are requesting that the traffic board approve um two handicapped spots at the bottom of brownell on the south side of brownell and one spot on remington on the west side very beginning this way any veteran with a plaque card that can't find any parking will be able
39:24to park close to where the wall is because there's a walkway right over there that they can get out of their spot and the walkway is right there to the wall so it's brownell remington you've got it two spots you've got it i think that makes perfect sense to do that i recommend approve that two handicapped spots uh down near the memorial wall at brown island remington second charlie seconds football
39:52natalie yes charlie yes and officer absolutely and then the other one um this one we've approved on situations like this before um it's 409 to cumsha street so there's a very small curbing probably eight feet between two driveways so what happens is vehicles try to park on that spot and what happened you got it so in the past we've put no parking so that no one parks there um they've tried to go in front uh well
40:30they've tried to apply to have that curving removed but it is expensive because it is at the owner's expense so um so my only question is that like they put the driveway there it looks like and they didn't do a curve well they look like they put asheville yeah they only asphalted their private property so they didn't come out onto the sidewalk and remove the curbing so they just did his property but in the
40:57beginning when they first did the sidewalk they should have removed the whole thing right but they didn't so this is something that does happen throughout the city quite a bit and unfortunately um you know there are pictures that he sent our vehicles parked there and it make the visibility is horrible um when there's a car parked there i'm sure so i i mean i can't put no parking if it
41:23was like no parking hit a corner um i wouldn't need to come in front of the traffic board but we need to so the resident wants no parking sign because he can't afford to cut the crowd uh well basically i just wanted he did well he did speak to the city engineer and the city of junior gave him the two options you can either have the curb cut removed or do a no parking spot
41:45that's you know is he is he is he uh traversing that curve no um they come in this way and then yeah okay yeah he's not going over there yeah yeah and then that way
42:07my only hesitation is it kind of creates a remember anybody hey i can't afford to sign a form that would be my only thought process i don't right if the board wants to give some input but again we've we've done it with similar situations oh yeah and if it's a large vehicle sometimes it's out here it's climbing right here right you know um i don't know you have to hire someone to
42:46do it you can't do it yourself so i mean i do have the email from um daniel aguiar who's a city engineer that either reach out to the traffic department ask that a no parking sign be located or apply for the curve to be removed through the engineering department this would require require city council approval and you would be responsible for hiring on the contractor to complete the work
43:13it's not like the city goes over there and removes the curb no no right i completely understand what his plight is i know what he wants right my only hesitation is this and again what the board is the ball um is that if you stop plopping up stop signs because somebody hey hey my property went over it's not really a driveway you know the next thing is going to be
43:36hey ticket that car he's parked what are we sure well i have we have tagged a vehicle that has parkview because they were obstructing the driveway right so we have is it technically a driveway without a curb car no no so when the car parked on where that curbing is yes the front of the car was obstructing that driver so we tagged it for that but the guys go home after
43:59you know the pcos go home after four so if anything is done after four um you know they're stuck with a car blocking um it's kind of dry for us because kind of put it on us you might really be responsible to have the cup he will sort of asking us to put a sign up so it should be his responsibility it's up to you that's what i'm thinking i mean i get it i'm uncomfortable with
44:21that that's that's where my hesitation is is that i can just pave pave something and be like hey can i get a sign now for no parking don't block my driveway the country is the toughest two driveways um right i see the other one now yeah the the gentleman from here i mean they've spoken right so he has the same issue if they park a little his is worse because at least they have a bigger
44:48this is smaller so he has more of an issue when they go over the curving why not this is all cut over here though just split the difference yeah it's up to the board i mean we continue to go in there and if there is a vehicle that obstructing either driver yeah i mean that's a that's a that's just something that that curve and should have come out i'm thinking that maybe the homeowners
45:14could have cooperated and said hey we'll split the cost and get rid of the curb and now we don't have to worry about signs or driveways that's my hesitation the only other hesitation i have is it kind of creates a precedence of you know i'll i will create a driveway on my property but there's still a curbing here put a sign up you did it for them why can't you do it for me
45:37that happens that's that's my recommendation for uh denying it i don't know what the board wants to do with that but my recommendation will be well maybe he should come in front of us motion to deny he yeah he can't because he comes home um after five so it's very hard well i mean we're like quarter of uh now some of our meetings run longer i mean i don't have
46:05i'll i'll second that motion to deny i just think it creates a slippery slope for the board yeah now we denied it he's going to get a letter i know that i think it's after three months he can reapply then that way he might maybe he should come in front of the board and explain it okay a roll call on the uh denying for 409 to country street natalie deny charlie in office of varys
46:39and that's all i have except now to do the resentment so now to rescind where cindy handicap spots is a request from the traffic department have the following handicap spaces rescinded due to the individuals no longer utilizing the space because they have either moved no longer drive or have passed away poke roast street 10 119 sprague street january 6 2020 globe street april 4 2019 charles street
47:07april 27 2012 county street august 7th 2019 and tecumseh street october 25th 2001 a motion to approve the removal of these handicapped spots second jolly seconds roll call natalie yes charlie yes and officer paris yes should we have any other business no so this concludes the july 20th 2022 traffic board meeting motion to adjourn the meeting second seconded by charlie rocco natalie yes charlie yes and officer yes
48:01okay