7.5.23 Park Board

I call this regular meeting of the park water park commissioner's agenda to order of business Wednesday July 5th 2023 at 5 30 pm at city council hearing room at one government center I know the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting what may transmit the meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are being

made perceived whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledge and permissible okay jeez we'll call the commissioners BJ McDonald Amber Burns Hillary Joseph de Solo citizen put any citizen input and correspondence nothing new business item a is a lift from the table a request from Wendy robotile regarding the request for off lessons in a bag at Lawton Square

South Main Street and anawan Street I have a motion to lift from the table I make a motion to lift second commissioner Burns main motion second by commissioner Regal all in favor say aye aye okay are we approving this now talk about it all right guys so this is the one that was gonna be table uh that wanted to do the Pats Joey if you

uh this is the one that uh wanted to do the path uh peaceful path but she switched it up to this so this is going to be at Lawton Square uh my only concern is now that wit Walton Square there's a lot of trip hazards on here since they cut trees all them trees they're sticking out of the ground and everything do we really want anybody hanging around that doing something

because that Park is on the renovation and it's like really a rough it's really a rough section right there yeah I make a motion if I try to find another spot oh so you give them permission to do it but another mission you put a different area yes did she come up with line or was that someone else's suggestion no not her what she was here before okay she's not here now is she no no

Second Street would be the ideal place the only problem is that's not under our territory well if if it moves to a location that's not under our jurisdiction and she gets permission then that's fine the only problem is is we're talking August 12th so she doesn't have that much time and we're the ones that kept pushing us down the table for her so when she has funding to do this right so

it's like you don't want to hold her up like she has exactly well if you give her multiple locations I mean I think in in any if you give her a pocket location there's a number of parks that she would be able to do this she's now not she could even do it in Kennedy she's not doing it and depending on the date she's not doing it mocking the sidewalks

anymore yeah so if she's only handing up kits in in backpacks or whatever color she could pretty much do that at any location so if you want to give her permission and I'll work with her on a location well I'm thinking 12-3 this is what my Saturday or is that August 12th and Saturday or during the week this is Saturday it's a Saturday night I was going to say 12-3 she could work

with the lunch program and then yeah Saturday no it's right here first of all right well then the only other thing and I don't know how this historically works but it says if I'm allowed to use this area I would ask DPW to give it a quick cleanup like is that something we also I mean I feel like we don't have any power to problem is right now it's being renovated by the engineering department

they cut the trees down and everything and it's a lot of curbing sticking up the internet people are walking through there but I would think we should just close that area off if you're going to be selling construction man shouldn't be open to anybody walking around now you're waiting to summon the trip is it yeah I say we just if we don't want her to be in that area just give her just

approve it with a different location I would say is let her work with you we give permission to work for you whatever pocket she wants to use as long as there's a lot of conflict with anybody else you have a motion make a motion find another space to whip with Nancy commissioner Regal made that motion that I have a second second by Commissioner of McDonald um all in favor say aye aye

okay I need a motion to take item k out of order make a motion to go down a cave second all right commissioner Regal made that motion Commission on McDonald's second day all in favor say aye aye aye item K request from Rolling Thunder Mass chapter 2 regarding permission to do a block excuse me do a book reading at Bicentennial Veterans Memorial Park the Wall Street July 25th 11 A.M to 1pm

august 19 10 a.m to noon in September 15th 10 a.m to noon

okay state your name in the address for the record uh Harley and Hamilton um I'm out of Carver 54. give me one second do I have a motion to uh away the rules I make a motion do I have the rules five a second so again thank you commissioner uh Burns me the motion to weigh the rules second and by commission with not all in favor say aye aye good um part of our mission as Rolling

Thunder Mass chapter 2 is to educate based for our veterans and our pow Mias here in Fall River here in Fall River we're blessed with so many beautiful parks and I think a big thing is educating our youth in our community on exactly what our Parks stand for and so with that I have a lot of books I have two of them with me today that just talk about our flag I also have some that

talk about the wall itself in Iwo Jima and the importance of why they're there and what they truly stand for I go down there all the time with my two kids and I hear parents you know having picnics or walking through but not truly educating on what it's there for and I think that it would be I think that it would be really important for the city of Fall River to

truly bring in our youth bring in our families and make it a place where people want to be and stay yeah my only question is are we allowed to approve this because it has something to do with the veterans part of the park or is this something that would have to go through you know the veterans agency oh never never mind well I know if she does she have to break because it's I just want

to make sure we're following all the proper subjects okay it's from her Michelle Hamilton and I spoke with with Council as well and they do support this project as well okay thank you

um was uh made by commissioner McDonald seconded by commissioner Regal all in favor say aye aye thank you just where uh

all right uh motion to go back to Item B motion to go back to Item B a second second commissioner Burns made that motion second by commissioner Rigo all in favor say aye aye and to be lifted from the table request from resident resendi Saka Academy the use of Brooklyn's Park soccer field Wardell Street for the Soccer Academy three weeks in August is there anyone here well first of all we have to lift that abstain

you have a motion tell lift it oh yeah sorry I thought we did that make a motion to lift from the table okay commissioner Burns it's not going to buy commissioner Regal all in favor say aye aye commissioner McDonald has to have seen from this vote so is there anyone here for rosendi's Academy Soccer Academy um did we put it back on the idea I reached out to them I had a few

emails back and forth but I didn't again um I would stop and said you want to be placed on the agenda again and I didn't hear back so I know it's for August but it was a question about renting and I said the board doesn't normally rent a park that's the issue that they would like to talk to you about and that's how the email was left so they could have found other

locations by this point and I think that's the problem I think they're a for-profit company he was under the impression he could rent a field I think the Smith explained to him that it's not really a rented facility so I think that that was part of his issue so I wish it would have communicated a little bit better but yeah all right so do we withdraw this or yeah motion tool withdrawal motion to withdraw

commissioner Rigo made that motion do I have a second second second by commissioner Burns all in favor say aye aye item C left from the table request from the Victory church regarding the use of Kennedy Park Broadway for the family and Community event on July 29 2023.

so I have a motion to lift this from the table promotion to lift with table mission to Burns will have a second excuse me commissioner Rigo I have a second Commission of burns all in favor say aye aye anybody here from Victory Church yes same circumstance I feel like at some point is there a way that we can like communicate because I feel like there's so many of the same events coming up

every week There's a some sort of family day or something at the same exact Park like is there a point where we can just reply and be like hey there's this annual event would you like to be a part of it versus us keep doing the same thing over like Reinventing the wheel because like this is the same thing that we're doing at the end of August but I mean no offense ours is massive so

it would be something that would probably be beneficial to them to like collaborate with the big event that we're doing versus them having or maybe they just want to be by themselves but is there a point where we like if something like that happens that someone can just forward it to me so that I can communicate with them because I just feel like if I see one more block party or back to

school family day or something I mean it just or even I know CD record does a big thing that and they have outside vendors that have come in um I feel like that would be you can do whatever but I don't think some of these people don't would like to just do their own little kind of thing yeah so that's why we and they've done this for years

so I don't think a lot of them want to be part of a big collaboration I think they would like to just go in as their unit because what they got to do and were they not here last night was this not the church that was here last time you asked me to reach out to them again quick yeah oh yes you're right sorry we haven't heard see there's so many I forget which was which

the thing is I think what if the church that was here last time that came up and that's the thing is we're getting all different nationalities and everything so we can't like say well maybe you should work with this one or not we've got to kind of they're all coming from the different communities now yeah and moving here in us so forward was changing by the day and I mean the gentleman from last week

he's followed through with I mean last month I'm sorry he's followed through with everything he was supposed to do he's got all his ducks in a row so it's all a matter of they're serious about this some of them when they hear that you know we charge a fee for we use in the park they just said turn away and don't want to deal with it they want to go somewhere else they can

do it on their own property many of them so and is this all we have is this three sentences and then do you have other Communications so it's just this I also feel like we should I because like when I there's a form to fill out online I feel like that should be like a we should have an automatic if there's an attachment you can just automatically reply and have an automatic reply that

says you also have to fill this out but you would like because sometimes the form is good in some cases and in other cases people give give you a multitude of information and then email that we would need so it's a 50 50 thing sometimes the form is better but if you rather have the form because the form gives them like three lines to tell you what they're going to do as well you

know so many of them send in a full page email explaining what they're going to do but you haven't heard from this woman aside from this email I know and I permit this is the procedure and I never thought so at this point I say she's probably not interested so right well I make a motion because if they're interested they will pursue and get into an email exchange what do I need where's

the form you know right if if I tell them something that they didn't anticipate like you know you need to have a liability insurance policy or you need to have this then they just go oh forget it right well because then we approve this and yes right right then you we approve this tonight and then you go and tell them they need all these things and then they say forget it so

all right so I do have a motion to withdraw this I make a motion to withdraw second mission of burns made that motion seconded by commissioner Regal all in favor say aye aye okay item D request from the floor of a God in club regarding planting a tree and oil plant and plantings at the Kennedy pot guiding at the Pavilion area Broadway state your name and uh address for the record please

Stafford Road Fall River Mass of Massachusetts you're wearing the perfect shirt for the occasion actually lady

all right so all right so just leave all right so am I ready to talk okay so you know the garden at the bottom of the park in front of the Pavilion have any shade at all full sun so it's very difficult to take care of and we have to weed all some along usually July and August is our two months that we don't do anything as far as in the garden we prepare them and

then we hope that during the summer when we go and check on them but we hope during the summer they'll be all right and then in the fall we clean out any weeds and we get them ready for the fall this year she was supposed to have all this ready by Auburn day so when Chris was there planting trees this would have been approved by the pox Department unfortunately I didn't know that she

didn't have the lettuce submitted to you people so she submitted it at this time and we need to plant a tree in the middle of that Garden to get some shade we had asked Mariah day and Chris piranha to go there and review the garden and they suggested what Mariah day suggests as certain trees uncertain it had to be a medium-sized tree so they picked the uh malice Coral Burris Apple a crab apple tree

it's very pretty tree I have a picture of it on my phone and passed my phone around too and show you

yeah it's very pretty we tried to pick a tree that I wouldn't think anybody would dig up and steal it because when they see something newly planted that isn't extremely big they steal it because that happened to us in other places so that's the tree we picked we went to the we would go to a nursery if we had one in Fall River to give Four River business but we don't have one so we use

the Somerset Nursery and we purchased the tree for 130 dollars we also would like that she doesn't have it on here yet we would like to plant shrubs around that and then we would have perennials going on the outside of it where the curb stones on on that surround that Garden we want I wanted them to design something with a structure tool well I thought that would look nice well that type of tree actually gives that

much shade because it doesn't look very full well it won't right away right away that's so that's what it looks like now yes so that tree at maturity and it does grow fast um the height is No taller than 8 to 12 feet the width will be 10 to 15.

so it'll be ideal for that God it does a Love full sun in the spring it blooms pink flowers it likes soil condition is uh it can be normal can be Sandy or clay and heavy in the fall it'll be yellow it does get fruit and it's orange red and it's a half an inch and to answer tell you you have a problem with that and I understand how the fruit drops and kids

might throw it around or somebody I have my neighbor has one of those trees and they're all in my driveway now if we know that we can have the Garden Club weekly go there and try to do a clean up during the fruit no I mean that's not that yeah but it is fertilizer it wasn't my concern for them to go there and yeah no but I mean we could do

this like no and I wouldn't want I want to ask you to do that at all and and like I said be in the fact that they were already told that they could buy this tree which as the board knows probably should have come here before we just assumed when they told us what type of tree that would get passed by the board because I mean you would ask them right hand left

hand you would ask them if you wanted to approve trees being in the park and it was fun you had funds for that right you would go to them and say what kind of trees should we plant because that's their expertise um so this is what we shouldn't always assume you know that but I this is all new to me going before our board and all that but um this is what we did

if it's not what you people want and I have total understanding of that we could ask Somerset Nursery to untag it keep the 130 dollars and put towards a different tree so Somerset Nursery still has the tree it's tagged because we want to implant it now we would have to plant it in the fall because you don't plant a tree right in July unless you've got a green thumb and you're out there every day you know

some people can plant anytime of the year and just be successful because they know what they're doing I mean we do know a lot about plants but it's not in your backyard it's not where you would get water it's not easily it's not easily at your access to maintain right and that would be hard for me because I have 250 shrubs at home so I do I love I love gardening

anything else no that's it it's up to you any questions from commissioners I have a couple of things but I'll let you guys go first I'm just so concerned with because then also which in this only for my own experience because they fall and then when you they like they're hard at first and then they kind of get flat and then it like stains the ground and then it kind of just stays there and

disintegrates over time so I think that's the other thing where I could kids could throw them around but then I think it'll also depending on what the area around it is if there's no if you're putting it in the middle it's in the middle of the Pavilion because it so there'll be some sort of concrete there is a what it is it's like an octagon a rage oh it's a raised octagon and what you know my

thing is if the board wants to approve this because the trees already purchased with the understanding that if it becomes a situation that we can't either that or the other thing you could say is they can see if they can trade out the tree if they cannot trade out the tree then by no means do we want them to lose their money or whatever we put the tree in there and hope that the

crab apples drop within that octagon to fertilize like she's saying yeah and that the kids you were saying the width of the tree is that the same size of the Octagon or something well that that doesn't even matter because if it's windy it's going to blow them the garden my question I have one more question if we decide not to plant this tree and and it will not upset me you do what you

think is best okay because we can exchange it I'm sure that because we because we always go there we've got to be working at the oncology center so we'll be going there again and we're going to be working at other Gardens at Charlton so my question is if we find a different tree and you prefer us to do that can we still stay on the timeline to be able to

plant it in the fall that's fine I would say yes yeah okay well Myra there's any other commissions the apples the kids pick up the apples you might get a little kid take it put it in their mouth joke I would say change the different type of drink so I don't have any problem with that my recommendation was going to be to see if you can work with the nursery

okay people change what I was going to do is Mr Oliveira is here the director of uh community of Affairs and I uh so what I'm going to do is is work with the operas and the tree Warden to see if we can get a different species and see if someone said Nursery can change that out to a different tree so you stay on your schedule the only other thing is Mr

Oliver you can let the triabris know and the uh Iris they can recommend they cannot approve people to get trees in that before they didn't approve it they just told us what kind of tree we should be buying and to bring it before the board but I already thought right but with them telling me right but with them telling you you can use this kind of tree you're assuming that it's all been taken

care of and approved so this is not your fault she didn't name this but she named a medium-sized crab apple purchased purchased admitting that it had fruit and when she told me she couldn't make this meeting I asked all these questions and then prepared yeah no problem okay you've got to remember it's your responsibility I know that's right I'm at the top I'll be in trouble again

and it's a full-time job staying out so that's due to recommendation well I'll just I'll exchange the tree I think that's the best something with leaves right well this one because it said crabapple the trees you know you know I mean like I said they used to have crab apple trees I'm gonna date myself along every city street and they used to bloom beautifully but they just dropped Apple

we almost picked that but we thought they would steal it what a cherry blossom tree they won't steal let me tell you well I don't want to say no I'll never say no Never Say Never but let me say I will say this I don't believe that we've ever had tree stolen will they tip the tree over well they tried it yes I'm not that's as far as they're gonna go but

I don't know that they're that into that kind of Destruction I think they have different things that they're destroying at this point I think you treat might be safe okay all right so so don't quote me on it but I I mean we've had the gun clubs don't plant things there I mean The Perennial plantings you could say they would people would still steal the perennial plantings because they can put them in

the yard and they're going to come back we've never that I know of we can't have really expensive perennials so we're afraid they'll steal them yeah you know what I mean like daffodils so now you were saying about water in the tree because we can put bags that's what I was going to say is going most of these trees that we're having plant around now has that bag that collects

the rain water yeah for the few first few years and then Mother Nature will take care of it after that they have this I'm showing it to me they have this human sustains The Roots okay how secure is the unit now the unit the unit might not be safe your tree might be safe but some would have like um it has a pipe going down that it filters the water and feeds the water to

the tree what it needs it's all this new technology they're putting into city sidewalks when they plant trees and stuff like that I don't know if they could put one of those in there but I think it would be pretty expensive I don't know what they cost I think they might be a thousand dollars have you ever heard them with Oliver yeah the water retention have you seen that on the

internet and you're in the center of something very difficult to get that yeah it's when you're first building it correct that's what it's supposed to be put in yeah but it was amazing what do they call it depends on the size of the tree in the extension all right I'll let you go okay what you can do too is you can once you know what kind of tree how come you can email

me or call me I will send the type of tree out to the board so if the board wants to approve her her planting of the tree and work with the parks and trees whatever to at least inform the board of what type of tree is going in then I think it won't hold her up that she has to wait for me exactly okay all right do I have a motion for that

I make a motion to approve second commissioner has made that motion second by commissioner Rigo and then once you know everything just work Witnesses okay thank you either myself will say yes thank you thank you have a good night

to me request from John patello to extend Federal baseball permit to include summer baseball and fall ball this would be for both fields at Kennedy Park Middle Street I have a motion to approve this second commissioner Regal made that motion seconded by commissioner Burns all in favor say aye aye

are you doing F correspondence from the city residents expressing concerns use of pickleball court at Kennedy Park Bay Street if you are not a member of the pickleball group this uh individual emailed me today because when I emailed said that we had we had a reservation system she was just concerned she said I answered her question so I don't know whether she's done or whether she will return at another

time but she said that I had answered her question that it is a first come first serve and the group is there I think that's there and anybody can use it it shouldn't be any time scheduled so you have to be fine with the answer to the point that she

especially Burns made that motion do I have a second second Ed by commissioner McDonald all in favor say aye item G request from James Crossings placing a job box and supplies at Kennedy pot pickleball court on Bay Street as well as other concerns repeating of the co-op area maintenance signage Etc come up please

don't do the name thing say my name James Crossing 1800 Island Avenue all right um so there's just a few things that um people brought up that were playing there um Everybody kind of comes to me and asks ask me about it sends them to slaughter yes they tell me and he's like you tell them I said okay um and um as far as the one I just the thing you guys were just talking about

um there was something where somebody had asked me to reserve a core um she was already there um she had four people and she ended up having eight people I think we had like maybe 20 something people playing um and she asked if she could use the other quotes that were on and I said once you got once they're done on that Court just pop a notation with us um of course are there for everybody so

I've nailed it into everybody's head uh at this point finally that anybody that shows up there um is allowed to access the chords so if our group is playing there we relinquish the chords for the people who played there um what I've been doing is as newer people coming in and playing uh I'm just inviting for the group um so that way if there's two people playing they say you can join us

kind of have everybody mix in say down the line if you guys want to play and want to play doubles have more than that I'll be more than welcome to join us so I've been kind of advocating for the group but if anybody comes there and plays doesn't want to be part of the group or wants to play on their own I've definitely gotten it down to everybody knows that they're out to play there

it's a public ground nobody has control of the boy um that um so when the first things was um signage um I know they have this in other places and uh I know people were complaining about it um I guess some people play in soccer ball on the tennis courts or some kind of soccer games I have no idea what it is uh kind of like pickleball for you guys

but um when they were playing I guess they were screwing with the Nets and kind of ruin the Nets um and I've heard in the past that people were both in volleyball nets into the ground stuff like that um I just wanted to know if it was okay to have signage there that says this area is only used for tennis or pickleball play I've awarded two signs like that okay I'm not gonna guarantee

you that they will stay out because there are signs are there but I have ordered two signs like that okay I know people one for each size okay and I know somebody had a problem with the group that was playing soccer there they had gone there and played um they told me about it and then I guess they had actually called the police um the police actually came by to

check out what was going on there um I know there's people that are vocal about if somebody's not following the rules they have no hesitation to speak up about it um so I know people are using those chords and most of the people are using for pickleball and Tennis that I've seen anyway um they'll speak up and say something especially the older group um they don't want everything that they don't let anything fly so um

I know I've uh I heard about that but I think the science might help out a little bit just in case down the line anything does go wrong there but for the most part since I've been there it seems like everybody's just playing pickleball in tennis I don't have a huge I used to live down there and I every night when I would go by there were people playing like some sort of

volleyball soccer situation it was every night and there would be 20 plus people there so I'm not surprised that that's still happening because that was their place to go yeah not saying that it's right but that's that's literally where they have always gone for years was right there so it was kind of a surprise okay well it's kind of a good and a bad thing is that there are a majority of

people playing there from morning until like night um so this courts seem like they're being occupied for the most part throughout the whole day so I think that kind of keeps any Riff Raff out of there that doesn't make them Riff Raff they're doing the designated thing in the designated area um so I put it that way um the second thing was the lights um people wanted about the lights um

lately I haven't been there at night time they're on okay but I'll be honest with you they go off at nine o'clock that's okay in the parking lot light is on until 9 15. okay so I already got 15 minutes to get your butt hole don't drag to finish up your game it's a good thing the cell phones have flashlights on them now should we go with that with that um and and like I said that's

the only thing that I didn't like about that was this should have come here before people start calling the mayor's office about lights yeah if they have an issue with what's going there it really should come here and then when we don't address it then go we're going to tell on you but it around from 7 45 that will have to be adjusted as the night goes on but again I think when with the lights

being on you're going to find that more people that are not in your group are going to kind of oh yeah so you know that's probably what the board is eventually maybe going to have to say is that their group is going to have to maybe get permits for only a couple of the courts so that a couple of the other courts stay open you know what I mean so

that it can't be you can rotate into here yeah no that's I don't like that I'm not gonna lie like if somebody shows up the two people show up they just want to play it shouldn't be a hey you rotate in with us it's like no I want to play me and Joey just the two of us I don't want to have to rotate and if you guys all have these games going I understand

that but it it kind of seems like because I've had several calls as well from people that I know in the city and they're like yo this one group is completely taking over and if you go down it's like yeah you can play with us or and or if you play on this without us you only have a certain amount of time until people are like all right you guys done yet

um so that's I don't know I don't like the situation this is what this is the reason exactly why the board had said let's see what happens during that month um we're kind of getting some feedback this was exactly what the board was looking for so if it comes to a point where because we had said you don't have to be a lead because they can organize themselves you can organize your time

through their Facebook page enough oh it's like it's called it's like a pickleball page so to speak where they go on and they register their times so they know if they're going to have 20 people going there or 30 people going there or whatever but I I think it is going to be a situation where we have to have design if people are getting like what you're saying designated courts and if

they're going to be allowed the job box to store Nets maybe this well I think I think eventually you're going to have to do something like that the only solution with that would be they utilize the courts with that they bring their own nuts because me and you and I going down there to play Pickleball are not going to bring our own net an organized group like they are and you've done that at BCC

they have the ability to bring their own net so that may be something that the board considers when we you know when you take into consideration you know do they get the job box do they have certain um you know two quarts for two nights a week I wouldn't make it five nights a week but that's up to you you guys are the ones I feel like we're damned if we do

damned if we don't because if we give them the time that he's asking for so let's say we say you can go there from two on Tuesdays and Thursdays from five to seven there is absolutely nothing stopping them all from showing up on Wednesday too because it's a public party so that's the part where like I feel like no matter what we rule on yeah so that's the part where I truly don't

know what to do in this situation that's why I try to the way this is organized because like I said I've seen this happen I've been playing for like the past five years so I've seen what happens at these different courts and what ends up happening Adam um and that's why I kind of know if I'm kind of telling people you can't do this they're not going to do it so they won't

take over the courts that they have to let other people play um which I want that to see happen anyway because I've seen other people where the militant about it and I can't stand those people so my kind of thing is I want everybody to play Pickleball not just us I want everybody to play and when other people start playing and they see us playing they're interested in joining our group because they like it

um and the other thing is with the Dropbox is I can put four Nets into that Dropbox to put on a tennis courts too so that opens up eight chords to everybody instead of just the four corner at once at some point some of them for Tim's please come then we get kicked off first dude but uh yeah like I said you guys a guy's a witnessing what's happened you guys are hearing the feedback from what's

Happening um as you see it then maybe what I'm saying makes like more sense down the line of what I'm trying to do and trying to keep it organized but let everybody play at the same time which is what I want to see happen to the city because a lot of people are coming out playing now they're coming to play with the kids I see families there um there's people coming from dieting to

play here for some reason so I'm seeing all these people come to check out the chords and play um and most of the reason why I know what I'm from is because they don't come with paddles or anything else I bring all the stuff with me and I said you guys want to try this out you guys want to play and I start talking to it for a little bit see what's going on so

there's gonna be you come to a pickleball with no paddles yeah some people just want to see what it looks like they want to watch people play so I have all this stuff on me already so I always I always want people to try it out because I know most people try it out they're gonna end uploading it so I'm just trying to get the community more involved into it and as you're

starting to go there's more and more new people joining our group uh I've never tried it before but they're kind of hesitant to go there because it's that kind of social anxiety setting that they get which I kind of alleviate once they go there one time those I have is a lot of the stuff it's let me say we just started this a month ago yeah and we said we wanted to go

baby steps with this thing and I understand you're the one that's getting all these questions and that so it's like you're the one that's taking the Abundant of this but it's almost sounding like they want to make this a private Social Club down there like a private this is a public park yeah and most of the people that were there at that press conference that day I'm not concerned about them they're from

Barrington they're from East Providence well I'm worried about forever rights okay they paid for that yeah not these other communities that's why I feel like the the box I just think it's a bad idea because it's it's kind of just going in the the direction where this is your court we have our stuff stored there and not to mention the liability if somebody steals it and all that which obviously you know

that that's a possibility but I feel like this is just giving certain individuals more of a right to that because well that's our box that's our stuff in there and that's just like I said I just think that this is opening the biggest yes and I just and like where are the ones that are getting all of it and it's or if we make a decision that people don't like Nancy's gonna get

a phone call tomorrow like why did Amber shoot down X Y and Z well Amber still had enough and it's only been a month and the difference too is going from BCC to Kennedy Park We're Alone police and everything well very low on Manpower and everything we can't secure that stuff it's our buildings again vandalize that down there yeah what makes you think this thing's not going to get broken until

it's open BCC has their own police laws it's a total different story so I really don't have to worry about that but the it would be dependent on obviously what happened with job box where the job box located and how it's secured and everything else like that so that would be different but the one that they have at BCC the locks actually have padlocked into the job box itself so you almost

have to weld the thing to get the locks out of it so I know that the one that they have there is very secure that I'd be more concerned about them clipping the chains or something like that lifting it off if that was ever to happen like anything like that but um like I said the the storage thing would just make it easier for everybody to access pickleball and like I said but

then bring their own stuff but that's why if if let them bring their own stuff when they come that's it okay yeah I think though like when you're saying it'll make it easier for everyone it's not everyone it's everyone in your organization so that's different and so let me put in the scenario so I'll say we're there and we're all for the courts and then maybe 10 or 12 other people show up if I have

Nets then I can open up the other Courts for everybody else to play on but I guess that's other also my thing I appreciate you trying to be open to like the pickleball like that's great that you're kind of like this liaison at this point of like the pickleball in in this board and whatever but if people want to play Pickleball and they show up with nothing it's not really your responsibility to give them a paddle

either I mean you know so if and and I guess in my mind like what commissioner Burns was saying is like some people may not want to be a part of the group they want to want to come down and play with their own people and if they want to play with their own people and they don't want to be a part of the group then that's fine too you know and if

they want to be a part of the group and you're welcome welcoming them in I think that's great but I think that because it's a public park it just gets dicey when you want to put a box in and it's like okay well it's Mr crosston's Box and it's his stuff and then you know well I don't like Mr crossing right so now and I'm not saying that but yeah how

do those are the situations that then end up here and it's like okay well can I put a box in now too because I don't want to use his net or his is in regulation and it just then it compounds the issue versus if we just sit back let you guys police yourself down there and play and let people play and do whatever you're going to do just like every other

Park in the city I think that's the better approach um personally take the Nets off like is that that that's like you were saying like oh I can take the net off and turn it into a tennis thing or I could take the net off well the tennis court has happened in them on each side but so if you have a portable net you set it up oh they're portable yeah

so the portable net goes in the box that they want to keep yeah which I understand logically it makes sense but logistically as a city to approve it it just to me I have a hard time understanding like because then when somebody else wants to put one there how do you justify telling them yes or no okay yeah the city if I'm moving built this City made this I want

to know is how many City residents use this I bet you'll get more out of town is than you have um because I know a few people that's there that's come from Bristol and Barrington that certain day the mayor asked me to gather people up to do the opening thing so that was kind of like I was just everybody I could he did provide a list talent I think it was 36 from former men

36 from out of town on a particular list that yeah he gave now that the list that I have on teamreach is like a lot bigger now like 300 something people and um a majority of those people are from Fall River now so I guess that's the board's concern you're organizing this use of these Courts for 300 and something people it shouldn't even I feel like this is just too much like this there

should be you can't stop that organization and if you want to be one of those people that's in the group that's great and if that you know if you go on and up at six o'clock I know there's going to be you know however many people and I'm by myself I know I can go play and be a part of your group but if I want to go play with three of my friends and I

don't want to play with the group yeah you should be able to do that too and that's that's the way I like it and the reason that a lot of these other places have these groups is because people do not have that many other people to play with or they don't have four people that can get together and play with so and those people can sign up for your group

I guess is where I'm at yeah so and then if somebody else wants to come separately and that's already happened people will go there and play in the morning um people will go there with their they're going there with their own groups now and playing there in the morning um completely separate from ours so these people are going to do that regardless of the fact anyway so I just if the thing is is if you get

it into an organized fashion and everybody's able to play the game and nobody's getting left out or left in then that's what makes it easier down the line um and that causes less of a frustration for you guys that well this person's complaining this person complaining because if someone's making sure that either a people are coming that I want to be part of the group are able to play or B

people just start becoming part of the group and know that they can play it causes a lot of the issues and aggravations and phone calls to stop coming through so I think what Amber was saying is on your pickleball organization page maybe because they're public courts you can't organize for 40 people to go there at one time is that kind of what I feel like you need to limit the number

of people that you have going there you've got to limit theology they can use it too because the thing is you can't limit it I mean you literally I think I don't think you can do that like because yeah if you had a group of basketball and they everybody was on the thing that was you know there was 50 kids on the basketball page saying we're going to meet at Kennedy Park to play

basketball and 50 kids show up now it's up to them to figure out who's going to play and I feel like as the board we want to just let you guys you and whoever else wants to play Pickleball use the pickleball courts that's that's not like it's like a monopoly right now and like you're saying like other people go with their friends in the morning when we're not there because like you we

know which times that you guys want to go there and it's a majority of the time because it's what you had requested initially we told you didn't have to do that yeah but my thing is it's just I feel like this is your core like this so that's what I don't want to make it seem that way because what's what it is that way well what's eventually going to happen is if it starts getting too big

we also have BCC I'm still I still play BCC too so I think what they're saying is it's starting to get but you're saying it will also take over but like I don't want to even say I don't want to I don't want to seem that way I know but um and I know you have like I feel like I know you have good intentions and you like the way you're saying like I want

other people to come but you need to understand not every single person that plays there plays there is like you other people are not gonna like the people that have come to me have experienced people that are not like you and they are not nice so that's the part where I'm saying I think I don't know you got to realize that like not everyone is like that and I think the

other thing too is this is it's not just a Fall River issue this is happening in every municipality that's putting in pickleball courts all over the country so it's it's one of those things where I just think that the less we do as the board and touch it and even no like I don't care how many people are in the group like but when we get complaints that people are not being

inclusive like that's when it becomes that's why I kind of want to I kind of want to just kind of nail on both sides where I don't want you guys to have to deal with anything I've already experienced this stuff so I kind of want it to go smoothly for everybody involved um and I don't want to seem like I'm like oh my God like I'm gonna put a flag to be like

nobody's ever loved your face yeah exactly so I just wanna I know what happens in Bristol and Bristol just redid their courts and they had started off a long time ago and they're up to 90 people every day and they have to have two sessions um that's what this is turning into but is Bristol a public park yeah you can't have like multiple like that's the thing it's so what times do they use them in person

um I think they're using from analysis summertime from 9 to 11 and then I think it's from 12 to 2. and then that's pretty much it every day uh every day and then they do weekend times too but those are I think at like 10 to 12 or something like that um but again if people did show up there so now I have another question for you does Bristol charge them to use those cards

Fair Haven Fair Haven does pay court fee but Their donation fund is absurd I spoke to I spoke to the woman in Mashpee they just put them in and there's a lot of similar conversations that go on um there are designated times where there are leagues similar to the baseball leagues that are approved where you have a league that plays a couple nights a week and in that case maybe the

league has a box that the league owns and when it's League time you use the stuff that's in the league box but when it's not League time then it's open to the public and that stuff stays in the Box secured somewhere okay so to me that almost seems to be the next step would be a league that's set up that's you know similar to North Park Little League or Kennedy Park Little League they you

know have a permit to use the to use the park during these hours on these days you know and their stuff is in the box right but that's fine but that would be the next conversation do we need to because then it's the league that owns the box and the boxes to be used when the league is permitted to use the courts other than that it's a public park like like I said

this doesn't have to be an instant thing like I said I actually speak without a word so I don't mind taking time for you guys to see what's going on getting feedback from everybody and then at least I know too because you guys will tell me in two seconds so that way I know if what we're doing is going well or it's not going well and BJ just like you're saying even if they were given a

perm it would be a permit for two of the courts not eight two of the courts and during certain times yeah like that outside of those times like if if you win right money show up and then like or 10 other people show up and oh we need another net we're gonna throw it on the tent nope it's not League time it's not that permit time that box stays shut nothing

and you can't be altering any other courts to and that's if and I just and the lead time could be could be where they utilize the tennis courts that I said because they have their own network and then tennis people know that that during those times it's not available for tennis like yeah to me that's the next step conversation like I think another month of this of where things

are is where we should go and then if you come back and say we have a league we want to play these times these days you know can we have a permit to have exclusive use of the court at these times then we'd talk about it I mean yeah as long as it's not again like yeah and that's not being that's not me accusing you of you know letting people in and out it's just a matter

it's been a month and we've already gotten this much so it's just which is what we thought was going to happen so it's like I'm I'm excited for winter well the worst thing is we play he has a shovel we pray we play in the way we shovel the course where Rock we're a little disgusting what do you mean he needs the shovel's going in the Box I had another question here with this one right here

uh changing the color of the kitchen box um that's a minimal that's what again this is coming from people um people just like having the kitchen box a different color um I I don't care at first not the interrupt you I had to ask Mr Smith I was like what kitchen do we have at Kennedy Park we have a kitchen Donuts yeah just the middle of court with the next time at that point you tell them

they need to join a club get no get some area in their backyard and build their own Court they can make it whatever color they want that thing just got what do we spend down there almost five hundred thousand dollars or something like that we're not going to change that now okay um down the road I did I have to tell you James that I have mentioned the kitchen color okay down the road so any

future courts will take in mind that the groups or preference of players is to have the kitchen okay um equated to renting and owning you can paint the kitchen if you own the house for use um the other thing is uh people asking me is the backing between the coids permanent and temporary um yeah that's what's staying there so that's permanent for now I um I think it's permanent as far as

what they're gonna do because I don't think they want to drill into those calls okay oh um and then the last thing I had on there why is there a concern with that um yeah so what these are the coolest ones that have been put in Bristol I'll give you guys an example of it is um this this is a little bit do yourself penetrate the court surface I think yes you're gonna have to

penetrating quite surface but the core surface has been penetrated when I was I asked about the traps those holes didn't exist there at first and then I showed up one day and holes were in there for the straps are there yeah today yeah so those holes didn't exist on the court I thought we said no to the straps no the straps have were part of the original okay it's just it

holds the neck down yeah I know I thought that so those were drilled in there before after it was built by the contract Okay so that's kind of where I'm I don't know what you guys I don't I don't know I don't know like I don't know you got a pickleball court so that's what like I said at this point you might as well just build your own this is the this is the problem yeah I

know it was a safety thing to stop it from going on the courts in that and we had to walk but the problem is when our contractor is not going to warranty that work if they if that something gets destroyed there by going into that now we just threw away 500 000 okay because the contract is not going to uh guarantee it so unfortunately this is like Kennedy pack was our learning

process okay we learned that what the kitchen should be we learned what should happen Okay courts um I think what we have at Kennedy Park is what's going to be there for now okay and if people don't like it there they can free up some playing tracks absolutely um the only thing I would say other than that is the way you have those set up now you could always just do a net

continuous across and hang it like it is now um kind of like like a bad occasion that almost I go all the way across it like that um and that way you don't really have to worry about any issues because you can like lift those out or something could take those away so they realized that they said we hope that they don't get taken away so I guess they'll cross that

bridge when it comes to more than if they do get taken um and the last thing I have I don't think of any more time is um the lessons for um the far of a community um I know you guys were interested in doing that um I don't know what you guys stand I want to do that I can um I'd have somebody at work with uh that teaches youth groups in Barrington so I can do

adult and youth with their help I don't think we were interested in that yeah you said you were interested in doing that I thought you guys we said that we were open to it if you have a like an organization that wanted to come in and do that you would you would send something and say this is what we would like to do I'll be honest with you that he should go through somebody like Grace

Girling at CD Rec and work through her yeah and those are the ones that you know we service you know those kids so if he wanted to work with Grace and do something like that then I can give you we give them permission for those one or two hours or an hour I know Grace does these things like one hour on basketball courts one hour on a soccer field so now

you put it to a program that Grace has for one hour on the pickleball courts and you know what we posted CD Red pickleball and we give them their slotted time for kids to sign up for kids to whatever and they're on the floor courts that have the Nets and we know when uh Brooklyn's done them Watson I don't know nothing yet no okay those quartz actually need to be honest with you those quotes separately

would be great for younger kids because they're very tight and I think that would be a good place to have those kind of programs so it would be a problem all right um so you said the signage your order so that's all set the kitchen's not getting painted nope lights are good you said lights are on lights we've already passed that commissioner but you would know on that it's not getting done it's not getting done we're

going to use Perpetual funds you just don't even go there please I'm gonna have to put a box out there you know drop your change oh that's your if I do if I do come up with uh donations for things in the future is that applicable to um donation to to so if the group's taking donations and we have a donation fund if we wanted to have a certificate of solicitation yeah that's like a whole

other process we can always do this in like a next meeting or something so or I can we can talk briefly you know I need a pickleball subcommittee yes yeah it's getting about that all right so I make them

no action so would I be I mean um but I think that so the feedback the way it is was you feel that it declares ownership correct exclusivity or yeah I just think as of right now if there's no no one should get anyone yeah whatever that's fine yeah okay just because like I said like I said we can keep going down the line I have no problem so we'll keep going and playing and then keep

getting the feedback from the community what I would suggest is what commissioner uh McDonald had said if you come back as your league and are going to request some times in that because we have the baseball Hawks in it that have permission to put a little U-Haul part of something in the park or something like that something like that you're an official lead now and we're going to designate certain times only a

certain time I don't think he was doing that just yet yeah no no down the line down the line I think if you have whatever you need if it's a 501c3 or whatever the league is originally do all these things and then we were like I told them no let's see yeah break's on let's see what happens whatever and then because it's the only pickleball courts that we have right so of course we

didn't want to have him just go in there it's not like a baseball field someone's using one you got two more or a softball field or whatever we had said put the brakes on as far as the lead goes let's see if we can all play nice and if we don't have to we won't make you get specific times I think like commissioner McDonald said let's let this go out another month see what

happens if we still if Amber's still getting the feedback if we're all still getting the same feedback then perhaps he's gonna and he's gonna have to cut back the times that he really originally that was just a throw out there this is Joey's point I think the request for the Box comes across much differently when Fall River pickleball League asks for some storage versus Mr Crossing from Highland Ave ask for

storage I think is the perception not right now in the future when we're ready let's get through one somewhere is that too much is that like too long but I'm just gonna let you know as long as I'm on here five six days it's not gonna happen no that's fine two days that's fine it's probably gonna be that's I was just doing it like I throw my house out there

for 600 000 he was gonna take it kind of thing don't do that here because they don't like that all right I wasn't sure I wasn't sure about that but I definitely don't need all those days one or two and it's fine with me okay all right so and like I said it it it it gives us a starting point and you know a two-hour window I mean most leagues get a

two-hour window for a game or a match or whatever and he'll have to work with the bodies that he has in his League within those confines Butler either way you have your signs so that's already happened I was thinking something I make a motion that we declined the box for now revisit in the future if a league comes to into place and it's necessary but I also think that we need

to as a board think of what is the timing of the link because he could come back next month and be like hey I have a league can I have a box not like and then you have every right to do that so I don't I want to make sure that we're giving him all the information that he needs so that it's not you said to someone so well she said that she thinks that's too long

too long I would say let's revisit this in the fall I think something is August 25th there you go okay yeah sorry I wasn't thinking September um so yes we will revisit in the fall because I'll be honest with you all your pickleball players play once it gets a little colder probably not on mostly he said they have a backup no I'm just kidding they're gonna be out there you're gonna be out there

I'm like 10 degrees outside if you start going towards the doors but we a lot of us play outside yeah we're football it's gonna crack they're going to be asking for ice houses all right all right so emotion was to revisit this in the fall to decline the Box first and whole in the fall in the fall second okay motion made by a commissioner Burns seconded by commissioner Regal all in favor say aye aye

thank you thank you guys thank you you took up all the time this time item each correspondence here goes another one correspondence received from various City officials to the park board inquiring for the potential of Permitting out the use of Davis Park or Merit industry okay we're gonna make it very

engineering and EMTs I think fire and EMTs are kind of on the same um under the same jurisdiction somewhat the information in your packet basically says that to permit that out without creating a new Access Road a parking area there emergency apparatus can't turn around in there it's not conducive to that so to confirm it out is probably not a good idea for this board because it's kind of a liability

can people use it we can't stop them it's like any other public talk okay so just sum that up I know um Helen had us if we had received anything back so I did not receive anything from the police department so but I wanted to give you what we have okay and Mr Smith did ask me if I won it and I gave her the go-ahead to resubmit to all the department heads and that would be

involved and we still just got back the correspondence from the actual two that responded was was fire and EMS um so I hiring engineering and Engineering well EMS EMS yeah um my only request off of this is that we also communicate this which you may have already done to the to this or that doesn't end up being something that comes back on us again in the future the board can City councils brought this up

right no I know they brought it up but I'm saying this communication should then go back to um make a motion make a motion to send a letter without findings and that we've reached out and that's what we've been told we can do that they make a motion to send a letter

commissioner Burns all in favor say aye aye have you ever been back there yeah right am I am but behave request from Jack Hackett two tournaments to play at Father Kelly Park of luxury in August on the 8th on the 19th and 20th and in October on the 21st and 22nd these are annual events I think this is I mean Chris Jackson here by verification it's come like across I'm proud I'm happy we've made changes

I I make a motion to approve announce second any other questions before that no all right commissioner Burns made that motion seconded by commissioner Regal I'm famous say aye aye item J requests from Natasha Machado donating a bench at the baseball field area at Kennedy Park Middle Street Miss Smithy reached out the individual yes I did she um said that she would work with us she wants the bench

somewhere in the vicinity of the Kennedy Park ball fields because the person that she's memorializing played baseball there um so I explained to her the procedure costs she's fine with it so the board wants to approve that with the location to be worked out with myself we can do that unless you have anything this isn't going to be in the way of any other Memorial that's already there correct no

it's going to be where a bench is a bench will come out and then okay yeah so right now we'll go in a space that event has already been removed okay so right now as we know we're in the process of doing the memorial bench for formal Commission of Soviet which I have an update on that later okay and then uh so we have along that baseball line there's all old Adventures

so we could actually have one of them replace which would be a good idea supposed to approve motion to approve by commissioner McDonald seconded by commissioner Burns all in favor say aye aye thank you uh item l request to install temporary volleyball court in the Outfield at lower Kennedy Park Bay Street is that where the no I was gonna I don't know if that's still even is that still

uh how can you install a temporary old volleyball you can get them at Walmart come on up what you get them at Walmart they go right now but don't you need the ground something we want isn't it sand that they play on

city of operations Department in the city of Fall River um the request was made this this was initiated by mayor Coogan one at one point where he uh he observed some folks playing volleyball in the new pickleball courts he asked them to please stop playing that and his next urgency was let's find them a place to play immediately as as fast as we could um so we figured at the bottom there

it's not being used right now we're looking at a temporary volleyball court there um that would be a trial period if it looked like it was really really used we would consider other courts there but at this point as uh Nancy mentioned we uh we we looked at it as a normal volleyball court but they play a Euro type of volleyball and right now we would once we have the uh the

authorization we would modify that for that type of volleyball the typical volleyball court stands standardized I believe it's eight feet this one is up to probably 10 feet so it's they're using it where you can't Spike but it's very very well used I mean that that's literally what I brought up earlier because uh it's the they I know exactly you're talking about because they play right down there which is what

he was saying they kicked them off of the pickleball right so I have a question though because my understanding now and I don't know if this has changed it didn't get back to me yet but my understanding now is we're no longer looking at the grass area and we're now looking at one of the older courts in either Pulaski or Maplewood to do something is that correct correct that is correct so at

this point is this particular grass volleyball gonna not happen it's on hold right now it's on hold just in case something pops up and there they want to play again they they like to play on hard surface so that's the other caveat to this so we're we're pulling all the information together now but the typical the typical volleyball group would be playing in that standardized court that we put together

but they are they're in a different type of League type component the Pulaski already has a spot where they play volleyball but they want the Met it would like to resurface it and make it into whatever and I think that they're using it on Sundays again they're back there every Sunday but this is why we're trying to find an area for them is that so that I use any illegally

we're doing it as an actual full court volleyball Court they're not putting up their own Nets and digging into like they did at Kennedy and Pulaski with spikes and everything with roof and nails and everything in it and that we had to rip down we think if we build it they'll play and if we don't build it they're going to still play somewhere else every Sunday is there something and this is something

that may not even exist and just in my head a way that we could potentially just put two poles that you could attach Nets to so that you could either put it at the regulation or put it up at the higher is that like a thing those are things that we're looking into right now okay because then you could potentially use it for both right I mean if you were a volleyball

Enthusiast you'd be playing at that place right down at the bottom of Kennedy Park and Bay right so we're looking at what the folks that are really utilizing this volleyball system and how how we can make it better my my thing is like the bottom field that was brought up at first I wouldn't be too comfortable down there even as temporary job a bit of balls flying out into Bay Street and we

caused an accident now especially it's in the outfit it's in the Outfield it's in the Outfield okay it's all it's on the grass yes we we looked at the the best leveled area in the area now but I don't think they want that no no I understand it but my thing is I know this is for this Euro league up a higher than I would still like to see about the

sand area where the old pool was if we can utilize something there for the general public wants to go there and have beach volleyball we were looking at that and trying to assess with the best usage of that is and that's with sand volleyball court had to close was health concerns really with animals yes we're looking at with the possibilities of of us putting something up there but

yeah at one time the hottest thing was sand volume I was going to say I play all the time that's why I was like oh that'd be nice to have something like that and that's what they have in the in the Olympics that's what's there now it's sand at Pulaski no no for the volleyball there's no it's it's in they're not in the tennis courts they're in the old tennis courts aren't

they they're saying there it's not asphalt that was asphalt I'm going over here it is asphalt because what they did is they they actually some of the cracks the large cracks they filled it in with concrete they're doing making I know they play every Sunday I mean I mean these people they go they even sell stuff there so it's like a little business on a Sunday so so again while while he's here

and so that it doesn't end up is that this board do they want to entertain the fact of the concrete not the concrete I'm sorry the asphalted areas I guess the consideration is Maplewood or Pulaski or a similar place so at this point if this board is not for this Speak now or say yes we have no issue with you I have no issue with us exploring the option of trying to find a

location so that this way we don't have to speak up yeah that's the idea you know I like the idea and then if you could make it more like versatile that you could like and I know that involves people moving Nets and stuff and we don't want anybody to steal them but in my head if these people are already bringing their own Nets if I put two holes they could literally and I

open the net where they want it I almost think Amber that you'd be better off making one the Euro and one Whatever another location not gotcha whatever so that they don't have to move them yeah are the lines the same or they're a bigger core yeah and like yeah that's higher the court dimensions the same you know that that's the stuff that we're still trying to figure out trying to get some consultation

because if it was the same size right hypothetically you could and if you could just move the net up and down I'm I'm almost positive listen I want to tell you what think the pickleball people have an organization yeah I've watched them for it that's literally like you have to put it in the hole and yeah oh my God I don't miss those days but this is all good this is all good stuff pickleball

conversations and volleyball comments and that's the thing that was brought up to the council like some of our Fields have repurposing we need to redesign them in that big baseball there's half the leads of default now so we have all these baseball fields that half of them are not being used so maybe we can do pickleball Parts all tennis balls or I mean uh volleyball areas are basically what I'm saying is so that

this can move without having to come back to the board again yes is there a way that we could get a vote of the board to say um we're on board with the exploration of this and the you know I would say Pulaski since they're already there it's about working well I mean it has to be conducive parking plus he's very tight with parking if it's a a big group

so I think as long as the board is open to myself and Mr denmy and Mr Oliveira working with the administration to say okay we think this is going to be a good location when we'd like to move forward because we may be moving forward before it has time to come back to this board again so as long as the board is on board with moving this yes and trying to

find a location I think that that's what we're here to do the only thing I will say is no offense Joe I think we should probably try and do a different location because it would be better to have one on this end and one on this end so that if somebody lives over here they can play over here versus having to go all the way on the other end of the city so

that there's more options throughout the city near my way S no no I think it's going to come down to Logistics and and where the parking might be asking nothing up in that area more than anything else Amber I think it's going to be like that there's a lot of number of people on the plot with some stuff and you've got Kennedy Fox you've got North Park but we don't have

anything there my thing is just this group that is playing a lot of volleyball is always at Pulaski that is like that every Sunday yeah all day long look at that one it's the first one and then maybe Maplewood as the second alternative for the second one for the general public that wants to use that of course I think is a little bit bigger too yeah than the than the one chord

right and you already have asphalt already yeah we'll just have to put it so as long as the board is open to us exploring that I think that and we would the two points of consideration right now I believe are Maplewood and Pulaski right unless something else happens to come up those are the two points that we're looking at so the board wants while you're uh doing some researching

let's see where we can do an all-purpose field for like another soccer field in it because Brooklyn is getting tired tavasos is really not considered a field because well it's more practice than anything I hate to bring the beer or bad Tidings to you but we've been approached about cricket s so just so you know but I'm gonna go on this so that yes I make a motion to approve um the volleyball courts put somewhere

you see exploring the location and then you can bring it back to the board but we don't want to not have to be able to move forward commissioner Bros made their motion second by commissioner Regal all in favor say aye aye thank you concept thank you tonight thank you you're welcome nine o'clock tonight item request for dedication of ceremony of Louis Vladimir monument at Oak Grove

Cemetery on 9 23. we approved this a few months ago Mr Lattimore is very uh buried uh Oak Grove Cemetery in the foundation organization came up with this statue and everything that they want to do the monument and the dedication is uh they're asking us to do the dedication on September 23rd I make a motion to approve second motion by commissioner Burns seconded by commissioner Regal all in favor say aye aye

commissioner inquiries no

commissioner Burns no I did but I genuinely forgot as soon as she said Cricket I don't remember what it was commissioner Rigo no way I'm not going there I think you already have throughout the meeting we'll be here the placard is here the bench can be installed so when you want to do whatever for commissioner Sylvia Sylvia we are good to go okay so if the board wants to come up with a time that they

want that I just didn't want to install it without contacting the family and whatever let's the Maplewood project is nearing its completion It's been a quite the quite the project um I've been up there today it was flooding we had everything over there this week I've been up there today I see National Grid was up there doing some work was that was that of the other pole getting taken down no there was another

Pole today that got backed into okay oh sure so we're three three fours the bat is out now they're 100 not put any additional trees there correct not at the moment at the moment but I will say that some people are very I know except we took the trees down but the trees were completely hollowed out I've gotten emails I explained that to them that you know a tree may look healthy on the

outside but it the trees were completely hollowed out inside so and I have pictures of the what we've taken down and you know odd risk came and made those recommendations so looking at the work that was being done up there we were almost coming to a completion they got to go back and put that's what I was about to ask is it's like dirt everywhere yeah everything brought up uh the poles were already dug

out all the old holes were dug out of the ground yes all right so and then during the end we're not quite there but and that one will be uh I had talked to the mayor about that uh it's when we dedicate that it's I guess the first lights on will work with the league to let them set it off and then well I don't know if you're gonna do first

lights on because the league is really backed up with games so we're gonna probably put those lights on ahead of the ceremony type of thing but they I think the league had agreed to like put together a game that you know it would be um an inaugural game so to speak with but I don't think he's going to delay putting those lights on as soon as he can all right but then that's the

board's wish they're going to fall behind yeah the games we'll you know we'll call it the first lights whatever everything well uh I already said we'll work with uh cement during that with the administration that to set that all up and that way uh the CPC and everybody will be involved with that because the other one's that pointed up that money for that so okay uh and then same thing work with uh Mrs uh

work with the family and everything and to see about Jeff's thing and you want to get a I mean it's not going to be anything except we have everything correct time during the week yeah why don't we one in the morning why don't we try and do something like if it's the weekends not around on the weekends well what if we well I was gonna say it would be perfect if we could work with

um with with John and it could be like a thing right before the first game on whatever the Saturday we choose or something like that at 5 30 or whatever yeah so it's not during the day yeah that might be nice I feel like you would like that okay I'll speak to John okay all right did I have a motion to adjourn motion to adjourn seconds made that motion seconded by commissioner Burns all in

favor say aye aye thank you everyone