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8.25.2026 Fall River City Council - Committee on Public Safety
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Public safety meeting dated August 25th, 2026 at 15— I'm sorry, 5:15 PM.
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Madam Clerk, call the roll.
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Here.
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Pursuant to the open meeting law, any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium.
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Attendees, attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible.
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First item on the agenda, uh, citizens input.
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I have a David Burns, 146 Progress Street, subject school parking and signs.
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Stand up.
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No, come over here, sir.
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Grab a seat at the table.
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Come on, come on down.
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How you doing, Mr. Burns?
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Good.
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Good.
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3 minutes.
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Uh, David Burns.
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Uh, I live on Progress Street.
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Um, hear about the, the parking from the school, which is kind of like at, you know, school hours in the morning dropping off kids and picking kids up at night.
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The Stafford Road area there is really atrocious.
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Uh, I know they're working on it and stuff, but we have a sign at the top of the street, one of the signs that says no parking here to corner.
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This— the sign is actually— it came down when they were retiring the street, and when they put the sign back up, they really put it anywhere.
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It's not back far enough that stops a car from parking there, that the car parks halfway, a stick nose sticking in.
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So if there's a car wants to turn in And you have to pull to the right to, to let the car turn in.
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There's no parking on both sides.
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On, on the, uh, south side of the street is fine.
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The north side of the street, the sign is too far forward.
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Okay, that sign needs to come back about 6 feet.
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And now across the street where the school side is, the back way coming out of the school, you guys put— they put signs up Uh, over there it says, uh, photo enforcement, violators subject to towing, uh, maximum fines $25 to $200, no parking this side of the street Monday through Friday, 7 to 9 AM and 2 to 4 AM— 2 to 4 PM.
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Those are the— those are the times that they drop kids off at that school.
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So the people who live on that side of the street the west side of Progress Street, they have to take their cars and move them down to our side of the street.
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And they leave them there.
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Teachers leave their cars there.
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And there's some teachers now— I noticed at the end of the year last year when they did— guys did this, they put the signs up— teachers are still parking there on that side of the street, whereas the people who live on that side of the street can't park there.
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They have to move their cars between those times.
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But if they— what they do is they just bring them on the other side of Paragler Street and they just leave the cars there all day long.
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Now when the kids are picking— picked up from school, parents are just parking there on that side of the street.
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The crossing guard can't do anything about it.
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And I've seen officers there too, parked there, and people still park there and pick their kids up and stuff.
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You know, it's kind of a— you know, it's kind of a hectic area.
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You guys turned Anthony Street into a one-way most of the way down, you know, and you could only come up so far from the bottom, from the avenue side, up to as far as Lamphere.
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So that all got changed.
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I mean, they park on Anthony Street on the Fire Bond side, the old Fire Bond side, halfway, 3/4 of the way down the street.
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It's kind of a mess over there, you know.
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Like I said, the teachers are parking there.
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They come in in the morning.
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They're parking there, they're really filling up the street.
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So I, you know, I know it's kind of a, it's kind of a tough thing, but— well, that— so your 3 minutes just, uh, just hit.
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So that's why I was trying to talk fast.
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Yeah, no worries.
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I can tell you that this is on the agenda item number 3, Progress Street, to discuss, so we can get, um, conversation going down.
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I'll walk them around, you know, like you can come to the corner down there and look at the signs and stuff like that.
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They have parking enforcement that does come down.
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Sometimes cars are parked, uh, where they should be parking facing down the street.
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They're parking facing up the street on that side of the street because I live at the bottom on a cul-de-sac.
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So they all come down, they park all down and around and stuff.
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It's really, you know, I went to that school.
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So years ago, that's, that's that street.
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There was always a fence there.
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Used to be the play yard till they built the new school.
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And then they built a new school and there's really no parking, you know.
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And when those houses on the corner of Anthony and, and, uh, where the school is, they— when those things went up for sale, the city should have bought those things and turned them into parking lots, eminent domain or something, you know.
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But that's really where I'm going.
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So, Councilor Raposo.
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Mr. Burns, what, what is the address of your house, please?
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146 Progress.
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Yeah, thank you.
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Thank you, Councilor.
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Thank you, Mr.
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I'm the guy on the bottom of the street.
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Gotcha.
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I get everybody that comes down.
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They double park down here to pick up kids.
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Supposed to be a cul-de-sac, supposed to be clean.
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They park completely around and then they double park around.
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Gotcha.
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Thank you, sir.
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Okay, thank you.
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Next for citizens input, Gerald— is it Montigny?
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You said it right.
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Oh, I cut my hat.
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Let me get my— let me grab my hat.
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Jerry, you— sorry.
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Thank you.
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Okay, Gerald, what's the last name?
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I'm sorry.
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Montigny.
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Now, do you— I can't read this, the last name either.
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Were you invited together?
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To come together?
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Um, we submitted a letter.
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Okay, who else is here for citizens input?
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What's your last name?
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I'm sorry.
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Okay, uh, do you want to speak at the same time or would you rather speak separately?
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You can come on down.
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What's their addresses?
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Okay.
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Fair enough.
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Need the address, please.
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98 Progress for Gerald Montigny and 84 Progress for Miss Beer.
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Thank you, Mr. Montigny and, uh, Miss Beer.
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Thank you for coming down.
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Just state your name for the record, please, and your address.
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Gerald Montigny, 98 Progress Street.
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Thank you, sir.
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Saima Beer, 84 Progress Street.
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Thank you, ma'am.
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So what's going on?
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Well, one of the issues, big issues, is the school— that I don't know if the teachers, paras, or both— they're, uh, monopolizing the parking on Progress Street.
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They can't— they're not supposed to park down the West End, but I was told there's ample parking for the employees.
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But they take breaks, they come up on their breaks, and they're smoking They're vaping.
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It's, it's like a party.
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They take over the whole street.
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And I mean, they're school employees.
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I don't understand why they have to take up the— monopolize the whole street.
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Also, since they put those signs up on the west end, people that live on that street can't even park in front of their own houses.
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And there's a man that works nights, he says, I have to park down this end because I go to sleep And they'll just tag my car.
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How do you keep a taxpayer and a resident from parking in front of their own house?
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That's what I don't understand.
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I mean, those— some of those houses were there long before that school was even thought of being there.
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It's, uh, it's a real mess.
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And I mean, it's a mess when school gets out, and, uh, but at least that is alleviated within a couple of hours.
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But during the day, the course of the day, school staff has monopolized that whole street.
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Yeah, I've seen the pictures.
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We just— I just saw some pictures for the first time, um, just now before the meeting.
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It does seem to be an issue that needs rectification.
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And like I had told Mr. Burns, item number 3 does address Progress Street.
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The people on the West End, I mean, they should at least have parking permits to I mean, if you want to limit parking on the West End because of the school, so be it, but at least give the people, the residents there, the right to park in front of their own house.
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One man, he's an elderly man, he said he brought his wife to the hospital, he went to come back home, they wouldn't even let him down the street to go to his house.
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It's hard for residents to even come in and out of their house.
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I mean, my kid goes to that school, but if I'm coming back home from wherever, it's sometimes it's hard.
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I used to have a bigger truck before.
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I couldn't even get into my street because there's cars parked on both sides of the streets.
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So I mean, living there, like, what are you supposed to do?
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I understand.
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I have a driveway, 2-car driveway, but still, like, I can't even get in my driveway.
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Okay, Council.
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Well, we appreciate you guys, and like I said, we're gonna, we're gonna discuss this and see what we can do for you.
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It's not even only the parking, parents, trash everywhere in our yard.
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I love it.
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Something I was going to bring up today because I did receive some complaints last school year due to trash over there.
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Trash, bottle nips, Dunkin' Donuts trash, you name it, all over our yard.
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Like every day my kid is picking up trash at the end of the day from the yard and throwing it out.
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I did— I spoke to a gentleman last year, um, the end of the school year, and I said that I would look into this and it's on the agenda, but I— the complaints that I got initially weren't so much the trash.
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Yeah, it was the— on their lunch breaks, they go over to their cars and hang out, and cigarette butts in the street and trash outside the cars.
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I was told that as well, some marijuana use.
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But the superintendent is here.
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I see her in the audience with the deputy superintendent.
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So these are things that, especially the latter of that, that we are definitely going to address because we cannot have that around the school building.
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Right.
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So, um, we are going to work on this and, and try to alleviate your issues.
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So I appreciate you coming down.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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That's it for citizens' input.
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Uh, item number— sorry, number 2 on the agenda is the minutes from July 30th, 2026.
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Motion to approve has been made and seconded.
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All those in favor?
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Aye.
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Aye.
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I said it.
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Item number 3, communications.
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City resident regarding traffic and parking conditions.
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On Progress Street.
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This was referred on June 20th— 23rd of 2026.
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All involved parties in regards to Progress Street.
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Saj, how are you?
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Good, and you?
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Doing well, thank you.
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Imagine if we were in a hearing room.
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If we were in a hearing room, you know.
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I do want to touch base with you.
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I did just speak to the deputy about, um, the call center over any of the needs in the area.
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We'll touch base afterwards.
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Perfect.
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Hey, how are you?
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Doing well, thank you.
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Good afternoon, everybody.
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Afternoon.
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So you hear the concerns, and I, like I said last year, I received some complaints, and the initial complaints were the congregating out on the side streets during the lunch break, smoking, vaping.
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I did receive complaints of marijuana use from one, one person that had called.
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Obviously those are issues that we can't have happen right out in front of the school and in front of people's residences.
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And then I see these pictures and I start to look into the traffic problem and seems like we have a few issues to address.
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So who— yeah, we're gonna go around the table here.
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Mr. Pacheco, if you don't mind, we'll start with you.
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Name and title for the record.
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Ken Pacheco, Chief Operating Officer, Public Public Schools.
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Liz Legault, Deputy Superintendent, Fall River Public Schools.
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Kathleen Smith, Interim Superintendent, Fall River Public Schools.
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Thomas Ferris, Fall River Police Sergeant, Motor Vehicle Enforcement Unit.
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Sean Sipson, Principal, Letourneau Elementary School.
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Stephanie MacArthur, Director of Traffic and Parking.
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Thank you, guys.
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So to piggyback off of what I just said, who wants to start?
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Madam Superintendent, I'll start with you.
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Well, you know, thank you for having us.
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And again, I want to apologize.
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You know, we want to be good neighbors, and certainly I've heard sitting here some of the concerns.
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I assure you we will address it with our teachers, our staff, our unions, our employees to understand, you know, not just being a good neighbor, but, you know, certainly in a school that would be unacceptable.
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So, you know, we will address that.
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Tonight, I know Deputy Superintendent Liz Legault and again Ken Pacheco, our principal Sean Simpson have spent a lot of time obviously understanding how difficult it is.
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I've been to the school, difficult to park.
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You know, you built beautiful schools and sometimes it's not a very large footprint.
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So we're happy to be here this evening.
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I know they've done a lot of work and I'd like to hand that over, you know, to the team to address any concerns you have.
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So, uh, to echo the superintendent's and to backpack on what she's saying is, is that we do want to be good neighbors, and we do understand what it's like in the morning, in the afternoon, to get students in and out of the school areas and in and off the streets where our neighbors live.
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And so that's something we would like to discuss.
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I did we worked on other schools as well, and we wanted to hand them to let you know that we don't think this is an isolated problem.
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We know that this is an issue that the, uh, the department has, the school department has, and that we're going to work with the city and the police.
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And Steph has been great.
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She came, um, over to the district office, um, twice now, and, and we've had conversations about this.
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And so I think we've got some plans, and we'd like to work with everybody and make sure that they are what you're looking for.
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We did— I did talk to the school committee at one point.
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I brought up— or not to the school committee, but to the facilities committee— that I have heard of other districts, and possibly maybe our district at some point, looking at parking, ask people who have long driveways or extra parking spaces at their homes, would they be willing to rent parking spaces to the district or to a teacher?
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Some people do have big areas in back of their homes.
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We've driven around, there was a couple of parking areas that I even identified and brought back and talked to Mr. Pacheco about that are different areas, not at Letourneau.
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I know that Market Basket, I believe, is out in back and down the hill from Letourneau.
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Is that something that we could look into and speak to that retail space if there was parking out in back?
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And how would we get— if we were to park teachers down there, how would we get teachers up to the building?
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And how would we actually access— would we have accessibility to a bus or a trolley in the morning to bring our teachers up, drop them off, and down?
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Or would there be something?
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So we are looking at not just one way of getting teachers to where to park and parents to drop off and pick up, but we also were looking at other innovative ideas and thinking outside the box at this time for parking and moving some of our cars.
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But I'm— obviously Mr. Pacheco knows the streets better than I do.
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We did the work on putting this, the map together in your packet if you go to the Laterno School traffic flow.
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Sean worked with us on this, talking about where he could put his staff, his administrators that he has in the morning and afternoon, our SROs that will be working with us.
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Also, for the first 3 weeks of school, we'll be having SROs at all of the buildings, and they will help us in the morning.
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Afternoon and to get us through that, that first, that first time of dropping your son or daughter off if you're just, you're starting that process, or those that have been in line before and are getting a little antsy and not stopping in front of our neighbors' homes.
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So, Deputy, this is the plan for day 1, this right here?
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We would like to be if we can.
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Madam Clerk, is there a way to get a copy of this for the 3 people that came to citizens input so I can— I'm gonna give them a copy.
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Um, Mr., uh, Councilman Peckerman, I, I met, um, all 3 of them.
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I introduced myself to citizens input this evening.
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I also took down their addresses, okay, and I asked, um, if I could come to see them tomorrow.
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I'm going to go out at 11:30 to Progress Street.
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I'm going to bring my card, and I will bring them all a packet.
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Excellent.
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So that they can see this and they can— we can talk even more then.
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Yeah, I appreciate that.
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Thank you.
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It's just better when they see it in person and they know that it's, it's coming to fruition rather than saying it, you know.
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So I appreciate that, Deputy.
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Thank you.
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Um, if I could just— some of the comments I would echo.
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We are looking at 5 to 6 buildings, uh, where we've had issues.
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Uh, Laterno is one of them, and, and we spent some time last year with city departments, with engineering and traffic to try and figure out the best method at Progress and, and not looking at it through just our lens, obviously, uh, the neighbors, um, you know, and, and what they have to endure in that morning drop-off and also afternoons.
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Um, I, I know Progress is a, is a dead end with the cul-de-sac, but I, you know, the, the thought pattern is, is would it be worth a try to stop cars from going down Progress at all during the school hours, not the— not all day long, but would be— we'd stop them from going down the street for picks up, pick up and drop off, parking, and then leaving.
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I know your problems are bigger than that because they are, um, parking— people parking in front of their houses.
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And it was a good point that we didn't realize when we made no parking that we were going to have people from Progress parking on the other part of Progress because they couldn't park in front of their own houses.
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So that I know I didn't, you know, think of that when that— when we were talking about that.
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So this progress does have a unique problem because it's dead ends on both sides, and it makes it difficult for us to, to solve this.
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We do, we, we do have another possibility, and that is the Market Basket parking area right on the side of Letourneau.
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So it's kind of an area that they don't use.
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It's kind of like a, a jut out.
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And if we could make that accessible with a walkway, some stairs, maybe our teachers would park there.
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And then that would get 20 or 30 cars out of the whole area.
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And for them, it would be close to the building.
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And that might be a possibility.
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So that would be one item that we would look at.
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Wasn't that the original plan?
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I thought there was supposed to be stairs.
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So in the original plan on the building, um, I— when I started in 2006, these buildings were already designed, um, and ready to go.
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But, um, there was a street.
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So when you, when you go into Locust and you drive in that particular road, you can follow this road all the way to, um, Far River Ford, First Ford.
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It actually makes it all the way down there, and that's city property.
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Going all the way down the back here.
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So it is, it is a— at that time, it would have been a good idea to dump out in one of the dead ends.
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Okay, right.
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You might not be able to get all the way to Plymouth Avenue, but you could get down to one of those dead ends that dead end into that particular property, and that would be another outlet.
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It could be used by us to get a bus out of there.
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So for instance, we could loop within our own property, go right down that street, or if the street was wide enough, we could use that as parking all the way down on one side.
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So those are the— some of the things that, that are in the, in the works right now.
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And I'm going to tell you that some of these have been looked at quickly, and some we haven't explored at all, that we will be exploring now.
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While we're all sitting here, and before we move on, just because it's on my mind, Green School falls into the same type of situation, correct?
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In, in your packet Same.
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Yeah, we have it there.
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So, all right, it's nobody's fault that sitting here we dump mega schools into little neighborhoods.
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So whoever was involved in that back then, that's, that's on them.
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And then we decided, like I say at every meeting, it goes back to we increased our population significantly and the traffic is obviously going to be intense in these small neighborhoods.
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So I applaud anybody that can sit here and, you know, help us out with rectification for this problem because again, we didn't cause it, but we have to We have to solve it.
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So I thank you guys.
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I'm sorry, your name again, sir?
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Sean Simpson.
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Nice to meet you, Mr. Simpson.
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So I want to touch upon the marijuana use and the tobacco use on the side streets.
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Is that something we can address day one?
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Absolutely.
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And it will not be tolerated?
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Yeah.
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So I mean, the one thing I can do, and obviously on behalf of the Laternal community, I apologize for the inconvenience, and that will never happen again.
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That's unacceptable.
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I will be able to communicate day one to my staff you know, what's acceptable, what is not, and that's obviously not acceptable.
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The other thing I just wanted to name in terms of traffic is we're opening our doors at 8:30.
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We start at 8:50.
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So we're hoping if we have 20 minutes prior to school, we can stagger the traffic that can support with this flow to support our neighbors to make sure That'll solve, I think, the arrival component.
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I think, obviously, the parking component is a different challenge, obviously.
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And I think I've been involved in this work for 6 years now.
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You solve one problem on one side of the street, and it's a little bit of a whack-a-mole.
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So, obviously, we want to support the whole neighborhood around Letourneau.
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So, I look forward to, I think, civil engineers or traffic studies so that we can— I mean, my staff needs to park somewhere, you know, and many of them are taxpaying Fall River citizens.
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They'd be happy to come up here and say the same thing, you know.
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So they feel like, well, where am I to park when I'm, you know, I'm trying to serve the city and to work?
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So, you know, I look forward to exploring some of these ideas as well.
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We want to obviously support our neighbors, make sure that, you know, they're safe, they're not inconvenienced.
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But at the same time, I want to make sure I can support my staff to be able to come to work and serve the kids of Fall River.
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Understandable.
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I just thought about that trolley that doesn't get much use.
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If we had a place for these people to park, we could trolley them in and get our money's worth.
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Councilor Raposo.
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Thank you, Mr.
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Chair.
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Uh, Mr. Simpson, I'm just curious, on this map here, how many, how many staff do you have and how many parking spaces do you have on the property?
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Do you know?
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So we have more staff than we have parking spaces.
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How many staff you have currently?
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Um, if I include nutrition, custodial staff, let's say 90.
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Okay.
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And how many spaces on the property do you have?
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Let's, let's say 30 to 40.
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Okay.
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So really, you don't have enough parking, period?
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No, I mean, it's, uh, you have to, you have to get there early if you want a spot, you know, primarily motivation.
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Yep, exactly.
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And then when they come, based on this map, when they come in on Anthony Street How many entrances, point of entrance, do you have for the kids?
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Is it just the main doors on what is Progress Street in front of the building, or is there other entry points that kids come in the building?
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We have multiple entry points, and it's based on grade level.
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So the concept obviously is do not park, just drop off, go to that grade level door, and then, you know, progress through.
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We have some students that need hand-to-hand support, so we have a special space in the roundabout on the Progress side that they can pull over if they need an adult to support them to get out of the vehicle into the building, and it won't impede the flow of traffic.
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I think the other component is the ability to have sawhorses and push the traffic to right turn only will obviously support— if then cars are trying to make that left turn onto Stafford, it's going to slow the traffic down in arrival.
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Got it.
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Sergeant Ferris, so this plan is new.
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So there were not— were there not sawhorses in the past here?
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The same one?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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There was a meeting that we had with the, I believe, former principal, former superintendent, and the engineering— in the— we had a meeting several months back with the former principal and the director of engineering.
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They Um, he had suggested possibly purchasing some land for parking.
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Um, at that— also at that meeting, the SRO sergeant assigned one of his officers to be there in the morning with a sawhorse, and he was pretty much moving it and directing the control of traffic to, uh, to allow for people to keep moving in and out of there.
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That might have been one of the issues where, um, I— one of the gentlemen had mentioned that he couldn't get into his house after coming home from the hospital.
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But I do know that the SRO sergeant was controlling some of the traffic.
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One of his officers was assigned there in the morning and afternoon to control some of the parking and some of the buildup.
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I believe the issue might have been a lot worse than what it is now.
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But still, as we approach the school season, that's certainly going to have to be something that an SRO is going to have to be assigned there in the morning and in the afternoon until we can come to a complete complete plan and hopefully rectify a lot of what's going on there.
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Okay.
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Madam Superintendent, just educate me because I just don't know the answer to this.
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They don't have— you don't have SROs in all the elementaries at this point, is it?
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It's on a rotational basis.
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Okay, so, so I guess I'm concerned.
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I appreciate the idea and the plan.
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But the reality is, if there's no one there to enforce that ending, How are we going to make that work?
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Because I mean, I think, I think a person who's desperate enough is going to move the thing and get past it.
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So how is the best way to address that?
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I think the best way we can address it is see how it works in those first 3 weeks of school.
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And because we've identified, you know, these 5 schools as major issues and some of the other schools as, you know, there are always issues around a school at pickup drop-off.
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If we can look at this, then we can identify to ourselves as a district and then sit down with our SROs and say these are problem areas, we don't want them to be problem areas.
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So if this is a high-risk point, we would, we would recommend, we would want as a district to have them out.
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We have a great relationship with the SROs and the chief, so I would believe that we could come to some type of solution and resolution that if this would be an area and this is what if we could do this.
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I mean, it's 15 minutes, really.
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I mean, it's just high volume for 15 minutes and then it's, then it's over.
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So if we could do that, but maybe the SRO is at another elementary school throughout the day making sure the presence is seen at a couple, and then at the end, at the end of the day, or they'll be going in the morning, they would be at these areas.
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Yeah, which, which I, I understand the traffic flow and the congestion, but I guess I'm just concerned that the idea is good.
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However, if there's no presence Yeah, people know there's not going to be a presence if there's no incentive to follow what is being put forth.
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Yeah, and then the residents are the ones who are going to suffer the consequences for it.
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So, all right, thank you very much.
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Thank you, Councilor.
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Um, if I may, what are the odds again— instead of seeing what happens over the first 3 weeks, what's the odds of getting the motor vehicle unit there to try to— or one motor vehicle guy just to see if we can get this off the ground from day one?
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I would rather have this pattern in place and working the first few weeks rather than just waiting to see, you know, because then we're letting them form bad habits if we don't have anybody there.
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What time do we start in the morning there?
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We start the arrival process at 8:30, and school officially opens at 8:50.
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So there's certainly a chance to get a motor vehicle unit down there.
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Okay.
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At least an officer down there until we can try to square some things away, I guess, until we see what the schedule for the SRO is.
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Yeah.
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I do have that, and I, and I apologize I didn't bring it to this meeting, but I do have where they are located.
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Okay, I have that whole, um, we just made them up, uh, ready to go.
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I just have them, we just had to change some of the principals' names, but they're ready to go.
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Thank you.
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Yep, I appreciate you so much.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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So just as, uh, Councilor Raposo asked a couple of questions, um, so I could figure out what the gap is Particularly with the employees.
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Mr. Pacheco, you mentioned that maybe the Market Basket lot or something might be available.
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I think that's— when I look at it, and I don't know if I'm looking at the same lot, but adjacent between the school parking lot and Empire Ford, there seems to be a lot there behind the— I guess it's more Picture Show, but there's about 75 spots in that lot.
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Exactly.
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So that's the area we're looking at.
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The problem is, is that there's a drop from our property to that property.
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It's about 25 feet.
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And I obviously would make a long stairwell to get up there.
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So we would have to engineer something that would allow that to be a walkable, you know, way in and out of there, something that would be, you know, well built to take the weather.
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But that spot is most of the time unused.
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It seems to get more used in the wintertime, unfortunately, where they put the equipment.
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But I'm sure if we could strike a, you know, some kind of agreement with Market Basket, that would, you know, that would be an ideal spot.
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This area much better than the other area where they would gladly let us use because they don't use it much.
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But that area, the walk is much longer and down up the hill and then down, you know, Stafford Road.
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So this would be ideal if we could pull that off.
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I, after looking at it, my initial thought was that I could possibly make a driveway into it.
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That was— we might be able to get them down, but we won't be able to get them back up, you know what I'm saying?
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So I think that led me, you know, to do a little more work around here.
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Maybe I can piggyback with the, with the firm possibly that's doing the traffic study.
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They're an engineering firm, so we can have them take a look at it.
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And, um, you know, and give us an idea.
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The other part of it is, if you, if you look at that photo, this dead end here, this— I'm not quite sure if this is a street, but I think it is.
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It's only this, right?
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So if this street, if we were able to make the street come into this parking lot, and we could secure that parking lot so that this wouldn't be another entrance in, you know what I'm saying?
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Who owns this strip of land in between?
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This is our But this would be city property because it's paved.
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And then this end would— my guess is with this end, like any other, it's probably an unlisted street.
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So it, again, it could be city property, which would not be an issue.
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It's just whether or not we can make this slope doable and then get the lease agreement with Market Basket.
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So it's all things that we would we would definitely look at.
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And how long would that take, do you think?
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Yeah, I think the conversations, to be totally honest, are quick.
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Um, I think the, the engineering piece might take a little longer, but the hope would be that we could get this done in a couple of months.
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Um, and we're going to know whether or not we can do it right out of the gate, whether or not they're willing to do this.
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And I'm sure we could type up some agreement for, you know, indemnity you know, to them with us using the lot.
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So do they own that grassy portion as well?
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You know, I think they own it all.
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But if you look at, um, if, if you, if you widen this view, this particular area comes— you'll see it goes right by here.
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This is all wooded all the way up to Market— to, um, Fore River Ford.
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Am I dating myself?
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Fore River Ford?
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Yeah.
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Okay, so right, it comes all the way up and it actually ends right into their parking lot.
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And I think that this is a side street also, a little dead end here.
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Um, so there are options there, Mr. Weller.
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That would be a much more expensive route out, but it is level with our property.
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So the other question I have is around the north side of the building.
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Um, there seem— there's like a little road there.
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I don't know if that's just strictly fire lane.
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It doesn't look like it.
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There's any lines for parking.
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I didn't know if there was opportunity to squeeze.
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So it is, it is a fire lane.
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And the problem is, is that now we use it for parking.
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So we line up, there's probably 15 cars, teachers that park along that, they back in and they're facing out.
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It also gets really close as it turns to our little playground for the littles right here.
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This is a very tight corner.
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It's, it's a— it was made to be a fire lane right from, um, the original design, and then this curb cut is here.
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Um, so it would definitely be an in and an out if that could possibly happen, but I'm not quite sure that helps us because it dumps us more into progress than away from progress.
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So, okay, I don't have any further questions.
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Thank you, Councilor.
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Uh, I don't have anything else to ask on to put forth on this matter is, Miss MacArthur, traffic-wise, your PCOs, they spend a lot of time down there, correct?
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Yep.
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So they do, they do go to Letourneau probably 2 to 3 times a week.
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I do know last year we were having more of a difficult time was in the afternoon, but unfortunately with the hours, the parking control officers do have to be back here by a certain time, so they weren't able to spend as much time in the afternoon as they do in the morning.
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The photos that I provided to you counselors is actually what prompted the prohibited parking on the west side that the residents are concerned about.
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What was happening were, as you can see in the photos, parents were showing up, getting there early, and making Progress Street a parking lot.
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So that initial request had come to the traffic board, and that's what prompted the prohibited parking during those during those hours.
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I assure you, I don't believe it's just the staff that's the problem when it comes to parking.
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I believe the parents are a big problem as well.
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It doesn't matter the signs that are up, they don't care.
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They're gonna park there if they want to pick up their children.
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They want to be close to the building, and they're gonna, they're gonna park wherever they, wherever they want.
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Okay, well, we're gonna stop that.
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Is there a way that you could work with Sergeant Farris, and maybe the first couple of weeks we'll send some PCOs down there.
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Absolutely.
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Motor vehicle guys.
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And we'll just send the message that we don't tolerate this.
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No, it's the only way that I feel that we need to tackle an issue like this.
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And the school department as well, they've reached out to the parents.
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They send out notification to inform them, you know, let's be good neighbors, park legally.
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Parking control does go down there and they do enforce it.
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Okay.
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My parking control officers were having some issues with parents, hence the photo enforcement.
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So the officers are going, taking the pictures, and they are receiving those violations in the mail.
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Okay.
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Now one other thing that I have, um, Madam Superintendent, is it also possible maybe send out a letter to the parents stating that the tobacco use and marijuana use will not be tolerated around the school since it has become an issue?
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So again, we're, we're talking parents you think are the issue with that, or we're just going to notify everybody because it could be parents, it could be staff.
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We don't have any pictures.
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I have resident or constituents in the audience shaking their head that it is parents.
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So just to cover all bases, we have a parent that parks 2 hours before school dismissal right at the corner where the sign is supposed to be before the stop sign.
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There's a grand— I think it was a grandmother.
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All right, thank you.
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Thank you.
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So just to cover all bases, maybe we can notify the parents and the staff.
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That way everybody's notified.
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I'll make sure I work with the principal so we can get something out, certainly to the staff.
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And yeah, I can do that district-wide, making sure people understand what's acceptable, you know, on school to our employees.
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Yeah, we could definitely notify parents though, right?
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That we can't— there's no tobacco or marijuana use around the school.
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Absolutely.
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That's something I can also communicate with all the families through our ParentSquare, and then obviously working with with the neighbors if they see anything.
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I can work with, uh, absolutely.
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Yeah, information is always helpful.
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So go ahead, Councilor.
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Just, Mr. Vacheco, is this a no-busing school at this point, or is there buses?
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We do have— we do have buses there.
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Okay, we do.
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And, and just out of curiosity, where do the buses go in this whole— so the buses in, in, um, will enter through Anthony Street, but they are going to go in this portion of the parking lot where there's no vehicles so they can drop off and not have to queue up through the entire— and that's same thing for pickup and drop-off, that all happens there?
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Correct.
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Okay, thank you.
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I yield.
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Thank you.
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Anything else?
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All right, well, I appreciate your time, and obviously we are going to take care of this, so maybe some communication right around the first day of school as to how it's working out, how the plan— and I'll touch base with you, Saj, and Miss McArthur about the first day of school and come up with a plan.
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So I appreciate you guys.
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Thank you.
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Motion to table.
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Motion table has been made and seconded.
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All those in favor?
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Thank you, folks.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I appreciate you.
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Thank you.
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Have a great night.
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Item number 4 on the agenda: resolution convene with the administration, the director of city operations, and a representative of the Forver Police Department to discuss improving lighting downtown.
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If we can keep it down in the audience, please.
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Mr. Burns, Mr. Montaigne, just— thank you.
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Oh, no worries.
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Good evening.
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State your name and title for the record, please.
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Chris Hathaway, Director of Community Maintenance.
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Ian O'Neill-Souza, City Administrator.
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So I filed this resolution, um, and my, my concern at the time when I filed this was the Waterplace West building So I was coming out of, um, the Brew House and I just happened to notice that it was, it was dark.
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And you have a lot of elderly that hang out on right there with Bottom Place West.
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They happen to be outside when I was out there.
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And I know you have a plan in place and you had one going for North Main Street, I believe, at the time.
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So I figured I would file this and they could kind of— they correlate.
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So, you know, so I'd like to hear what you have to say about the, uh, the lighting here.
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So on North Main Street, we replaced all those.
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There was 22 fixtures.
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Those were funded and taken care of.
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The— I think it's 58 along South Main from the TA restaurant down to City Hall.
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There's 58 lights, not including the ones on Sullivan, Rodman, as well as Borden.
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With those included, it's like 75 lights.
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Those are all in the capital improvement plan.
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Okay, there is also— we applied for a grant.
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I'm not sure if we're going to get it yet, but there is a plan in place to replace those.
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Okay, does Purchase Street fall within this plan?
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No, Purchase Street, those lights were done in 2017.
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Okay, um, so those lights, there's like a 15-year life expectancy.
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All right, yeah, I, I had asked that question because there was another issue that had popped up, so Um, what do we have going forward for South Main Street?
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For South Main Street, it's in the capital improvement plan currently.
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Um, at the time I did it when I was working over at the police station, so it's still in that.
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There's no funding source for it currently, correct?
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Um, in the capital improvement plan for the $200,000 that shows free cash for 2027 allocated.
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Now, are those lights— are they dimmable?
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Or are they just one set?
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One set, that style.
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All right.
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So, and there's about a 6-month lead time to those.
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So the day of order, it takes about 6 months to get them in.
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So as far as anything happening soon, they're not likely.
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Once, once we order them, it all depends on the manufacturer because they're built per order.
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So it depends on how much of a backlog.
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The one I did North Main Street, the first order of North Main was 6 months, the second order was maybe like 4 months.
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Okay.
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So it varies depending on their workload.
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Even if it's a year, I'm happy because it's getting done.
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There'll be a plan in place instead of just sitting on it and waiting for something to happen.
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Councils, anything?
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Councilor Raposo.
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Yeah, I guess to the city administrator, I guess is there any appetite to move on that capital improvement line item with free cash if we need to?
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That's how it was funded through the capital improvement plan.
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So yes.
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Okay.
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Yep.
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All right.
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Tony, thank you.
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I have nothing else.
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44:30
Motion to table.
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Motion to table has been made.
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Second.
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Seconded.
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All those in favor?
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Aye.
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Aye.
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The ayes have it.
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Thank you.
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44:37
Thank you, guys.
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44:42
Item number 5 on the agenda is a resolution convened to discuss turnout gear used by the Fall River Fire Department.
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This was adopted on May 12th, '26.
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Chief, how are you?
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Doing well.
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How you doing?
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I'm all right.
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I'm okay.
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Thanks.
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Jeffrey Bacon, Fire Chief.
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Thank you, sir.
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Yep.
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So this is in regards to the turnout gear.
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Where are we at with that?
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So we applied for the Assistance of Firefighters grant in June for— to replace any sets that were 10 years old or would be 10 years old during the course of the grant's life period.
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So I believe that was 38 sets that we're hoping to get replaced through the grant.
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We also have the capital funding to replace sets of gear.
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So Um, my training division has been working hard with the manufacturers to try to come up with the right set of gear, the right specs.
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We've had some gear out in the companies with different individuals to, to try it out to see how they liked it.
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We've had some complaints about how some gear is hot.
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It's not breathing as much as the other gear.
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So I think I've said a couple times in the past that I don't want to trade cancer prevention for heart attacks because people are overheating.
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So we're trying to be as cautious as we can with this product because it's the second or third year, second generation of this PFAS-free inner liner.
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They're still working out some of the kinks with it.
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So I'm confident now that we're going to move forward with, I believe it's 40 more sets of, from a different manufacturer that we've had somebody trialing for a couple months now.
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So as soon as my training chief is back next week from vacation, He's going to coordinate fitting, and we're going to start purchasing those sets.
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As soon as those sets are in, the nice thing with this manufacturer is they're promising us a 30-day turnaround.
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So we'll get those sets hopefully within 2 months on the backs of the firefighters, and we'll be able to get a really good feel for, for the quality and, and how well those are going to perform for us.
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So my goal would be as soon as those sets are in and we give them a month or 2 of, of wear trial, then, um, we can order a larger batch if we're comfortable with it, or, you know, maybe switch to one of the other sets of gear.
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Councilor Raposo.
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Yeah, I just want to— I want to appreciate this response to the letter that you wrote, um, not only regarding turnout gear but other things that the committee had asked for.
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So I guess my— you know, when you and I had a conversation, because originally when I filed the resolution I talked about the amendment of the capital improvement plan and getting it all straight away.
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But I also understand what you're trying to do and testing and all that.
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And I appreciate that.
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I guess my only question back to the original resolution is, if you go through the fittings and everything works out well, you have the green light to get what is needed to fit your entire, entire department?
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I haven't gotten that green light from the administration yet.
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But based on the recommendation here, I believe that's where we're headed.
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Yeah.
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To the city administrator.
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Do we— does the mayor have a commitment to green light the purchase of the equipment once everything's said and done?
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We had that discussion with the chief, and that was his biggest concern.
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I mean, because of the gear and the manufacturers and different types and things, until they gave it a trial period.
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But there's a commitment from the administration to fund it and get it done.
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Yes, that's excellent.
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What I want to hear.
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Yeah, and I think the other benefit, obvious, is not buying 200 sets of gear right off the rip, because then in 10 years you're on the hook for 200 more sets of gear.
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So I think that spacing it out over the next year or two to to get everybody primary and backup gear would be a more prudent way to go about it.
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I appreciate the thought process.
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And as long as, you know, the funding is there to support it, as well as doing the, the research to make sure the equipment is adequate and safe for the firefighters, that's, that's what I'm looking for.
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So I appreciate the work you did.
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I appreciate your support on this.
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Thank you.
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I really think all 3 of you appreciate this, this committee's support on this.
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I don't know that it would have moved in the direction it did without you.
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So thank you very much.
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I yield, Chairman.
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Nothing?
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I have nothing else.
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I like that.
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So, uh, a 2-year time frame for— you could see that coming to fruition, getting you guys done if we were in 2 years, both sets of gear?
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Yeah, I mean, if, if that's the route that we go, I think that it might be more prudent once we— everyone gets that first set of gear, they're not in the second set that often, right?
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So they'll only be in the second set if they have a fire for the few hours that the gear is taking to wash and dry and clean.
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It might be more prudent to make this a 5-year plan so that— I was just gonna— so that we're not looking at replacing 200 sets of gear again, right, over a 2-year period, because it's only going to get more expensive.
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Right now you're looking at almost a million-dollar investment for 200 sets of gear.
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So, um, so I think it would probably not— it won't be me, but I don't want to burden the next fire chief and the next administration with having to deal with that in 10 years.
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Thank you.
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My only request is when you do get a green light on moving forward with whatever equipment you pick, if you could just notify the committee.
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I'd like to be— I think all of us, speaking for both gentlemen here, I think we'd like to be up to date on how it's progressing to make sure we're in the know of what's going on with it.
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Actually, what I'll do is when we do schedule the fitting at our headquarters, the manufacturer will be there all day fitting different firefighters.
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I'll let you know when that's happening if you want to come down and actually put eyes and hands on it.
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That would be awesome.
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I'd appreciate that.
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Absolutely.
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Thank you.
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That's all I have.
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I think the resolution's been satisfied, so I have no further concerns with it.
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Okay, we need a motion, Councilor.
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Motion to adjourn.
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Motion to adjourn has been made.
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Second.
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Seconded.
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All those in favor?
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Aye.
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Aye.
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No nays.
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Have a good night, everybody.
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