The Fall River Historical Commission held a regular scheduled meeting on Tuesday, September 30th, at One Government Center. The meeting began with the election of a new chairperson, as the previous chair had resigned two weeks prior. Commissioner Richard Mancini was nominated by Connie Soul, seconded by Ashley Duna, and unanimously elected as the new chairperson with a 5-0 roll call vote. The commission then unanimously approved the minutes from the July meeting. The bulk of the meeting involved hearing presentations and voting on requests for letters of support for various historic preservation projects seeking funding from the Community Preservation Committee (CPC). All eleven projects presented received unanimous letters of support. These projects included window restoration/replacement for 8 Arms LLC at 418 Quakeran Street and 104 Anowan Street (American Printing Number Six), roof replacement for the Little Theater of Fall River, church tower restoration for Christ the Rock Church at 414 Rock Street, interior painting and plaster repair for St. John the Baptist Ukrainian Church, and tower repointing for the Cathedral of St. Mary of the Assumption at 450 Highland Avenue. Additionally, letters of support were granted for a second phase of a historic inventory survey for the Steepbrook Bioreserve area, repairs to Shed Number 12 at the Fall River Waterworks Complex on Bedford Street, a historic survey of the Fall River Waterfront Cultural District, window restoration/fabrication for the Marine Museum at Battleship Cove at 70 Water Street, and Phase Two of the roof and exterior restoration project for the Fall River Historical Society at 451 Rock Street. Under new business, the commission discussed the ongoing in-depth study of the Waterfront Cultural District by Roger Williams University volunteers, which will be at no cost to the city. Old business included an update on the Steepbrook Bioreserve Form B, with a presentation scheduled for November 21st, and a preliminary walk-through for the Highlands local historic district update on October 9th. The meeting adjourned at 6:43 PM.
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Okay. Well, good evening. Uh, I'm Richard Mancini, uh, the co-chair of the historical commission for the city of Fall River. Uh, it's 6 o'clock, uh, Tuesday, the 30th of September. We're meeting at one government center in the first floor hearing room. Pursuant to the open meeting law, any person may make an audio or visual recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium. Attendees
0:28are therefore advised that such recordings or transmissions are being made whether perceived or unpersceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible.
0:38Okay. And our recording secretary for this evening is Commissioner Jonathan Limur. He's sitting over on the end there.
0:47Present this evening are Commissioner Jonathan Limur. Present.
0:53Roll call.
0:54Commissioner uh Commissioner Connie Soul, Commissioner Alley Couna, and Commissioner Joyce Rodri, and myself, Rick Mancini.
1:07Okay. Commissioner Lima, have all the petitions been properly advertised and all interested parties are notified in accordance with the rules and regulations of the historic commission for the city of Fall River?
1:17Yes, they have.
1:18All right. Thank you. I hereby declare today, Tuesday, the September the 30th of the regular scheduled meeting of the historic commission for the city of Fall River open for such business and shall resume before us. Let us begin.
1:34Okay. Uh let's have a proper roll call.
1:38Jonathan Lima, present.
1:40Connie Soul, present.
1:41Ashley Duna, present.
1:43Joyce Rodri, present.
1:45And Rick Mancini, present.
1:47Uh we're going to start this a little differently this evening. Uh our chairperson resigned two weeks ago. So uh I'm going to put in order probably a nomination request to see who would like to be the new chair of the historical commission.
2:05So I nominate Richard Mancini for chair of the historical commission.
2:11Okay. Nomination made for Richard Mancini.
2:14I'll second that.
2:15Okay. There's a second for Richard Mancini. Are there any more nominations for chair?
2:23Okay, let's do a roll call. Jonathan, yes.
2:28Connie Soul, yes.
2:30Ashley Dunia, yes.
2:32Joyce Rogers, yes.
2:34And I'm allowed to vote for myself. So, Rick Mancini, yes.
2:40All righty. So, now go easy on me tonight. This is my first official meeting as a chairperson here. Okay.
2:47Congrat.
2:47All right. Thank you. And yes, I accept.
2:51Okay.
2:54Uh we have the minutes of the July meeting. Has everyone looked over the July minutes?
3:00Yes. Yes.
3:01Do we have a motion?
3:02I'll make a motion to accept.
3:04Okay. Motion.
3:04Second that motion.
3:06Second by Connie. Connie Connie Soul. Yes.
3:10All right. Roll call. Yes.
3:14Connie Soul. Yes.
3:15Ashley Dunia. Yes.
3:16Joyce Rogers. Yes.
3:18And Rick Mancini. Yes. All righty.
3:21That's going well. Citizens input. We have none. No citizens input. None.
3:27Okay. Good. And we have no notices for intent to demolish. We have none of those. We do have a lot of correspondence to get through this evening. So, we'll be very brief. Let's get to the point because I believe with the exception of maybe one uh all the others are looking for letters of support right to the CPC. So the CPC has acknowledge that you are historic.
3:54You're coming here to ver for verification from us. So give us a brief description of what your project is and we'll take a vote and you'll be free to go or gladly stay here and and uh participate in the rest of the meeting.
4:11Okay. So the first participant St.
4:14Luke's Episcopal Church uh called they're unable to attend this evening.
4:19So the second on the agenda is Arms LLC at 418. Come forward. Give us your name and your address, please.
4:33Good afternoon. Uh my name is Nelson Rigo and I'm here representing uh 8 Arms LLC, the owner of 418 Quakeran Street.
4:42Uh so it's a two-story mill that was built in 1871 as part of the Waffanog Mills. Uh it's in the National Register of Buildings was in 1983.
4:54And our goal is to restore and replace 54 windows.
4:58Okay. Did you bring any handouts at all on the I had emailed um pre when I sent the um that I have copied here.
5:07Okay. Yeah.
5:12One is fine. We'll pass it down.
5:17Okay.
5:20We'll pass that down. So we we contacted Horn and Maryland and Somerset and sent them pictures of the windows that we have right now and asked them to provide us some options that they have that would meet um preservation um um standards. Um so we've uh there was a project in Providence at the 60 Ship Street that they renovated the same type of windows that we have. Um we have very
5:43large windows. They are 11 ft high by 6 ft wide. So it's a very special window that needs to be um made.
5:53Are they approved by the uh secretary of state standards? Good.
5:58Yeah.
5:58Okay.
5:59Does the commission have any questions?
6:05This is remaining the same size. That's Yeah, the windows are staying the same size and the same style. Uh so the windows they actually have two panels that swing out.
6:14Yeah.
6:15Um so that's what we're doing. and they have two vertical panels. So the window comes actually in like four different pieces that then gets assembled on site.
6:23Um and they're made to order. Uh so Horner Mill will come in measure the windows and right now it takes about 10 to 12 weeks for the lead time for the windows. Uh so if approved um by the CPC we'll will the goal is to to work on this next summer. So we'll get um the order in and then get the windows in and install the windows.
6:45Okay. The key is to to make sure and ascertain from the corner that they are following the interior standards. Okay.
6:54And other than that, that's fine. Any other questions?
6:58All right. Do we have a nomination?
7:00I just have a question. Quick question.
7:02I'm always fascinated how you can find these companies that can do this extraordinary work. What how did you go about finding them?
7:11Well, I I knew about Horn Windows because I've done worked with them in the past. So, I just wanted to make sure we could find something that would match what we had. So, I sent them the the pictures of the current windows. So, they were able to look at their catalog to see what they had done in the past.
7:25And that's when they pointed me to the project in Providence. And when I looked at it, well, that's great. Those windows match exactly what we're looking for.
7:32And those windows that were used uh met the uh historic preservation uh process in province as well.
7:39Very good.
7:41Any other questions? It looks like the existing windows have two.
7:47Yeah. Two panels. Two panels out. Yep.
7:49And we'll be replacing both going to be.
7:50Yes. All right.
7:51Yep.
7:52Right now is the the color on those pictures is brown.
7:56We're going with a lighted color to match the granite on the outside of the building.
8:01Okay.
8:04I will make a motion to um provide a letter of support um for the window project.
8:09All right. Motion made by Ashley. I'll second that motion.
8:13Second by Connie.
8:15Roll call.
8:17Jonathan Lima. Yes.
8:18Connie Soul. Yes.
8:19Ashley Duna. Yes.
8:21Joyce Rodri. Yes.
8:22Rick Mancini. Yes.
8:24Thank you.
8:24Thank you very much. You'll get a letter in a week or so. Thank you.
8:29All right. Next would be Shane L.
8:32Landing of LLC. That's 90 Pond Street.
8:44name and address, please.
8:46Hi, my name is Patricia Todd. I'm the property owner of 104 Anowan Street, originally known as American Printing Number Six. Um, my family has been sewing factories in Fall River since 1936.
9:03Owned lots of mills, been through the drama. um lost the businesses. So, this is my last mill and I'm trying to renovate it and I'd like to start with the first floor windows. Um I have So, this is Steve Toten from Architectural Preservation Group. He's been working with me. We res we renovated the carriage house next door.
9:33I think it's beautiful, Rick.
9:36Um, I've seen it and it is, but you have opinions. So, but but I would like your opinions on how we do this. So, our big dilemma is it's about 44 windows just on the first floor. So, I want to start on the first floor. It's a 28,000 square foot mill, American printing number six. Um, I want to restore the mill. I don't want it to be torn down.
10:02So, I'm really trying to preserve it.
10:06Um, so I just want to start on the first floor just doing those windows and I just need some help. Steve is helping me. Um, he does historic preservation.
10:17Want to speak for yourself?
10:18I do historic preservation.
10:20Okay. Um, all right. Tonight, tonight's meeting is primarily for letters of support for the CPC. So, uh, yes, we could afford a lot of, uh, advice to you for the mill and how to get tax rebates and things, but this isn't the meeting on the agenda. The meeting for tonight is support. So, at another time, you could just make a an arrangement.
10:46We have requested $350,000 from the CPC to start on the first floor.
10:53Correct.
10:53And we're asking for a letter of support.
10:56That's it. Okay.
11:00So, the company that you're getting the windows through is do you know or you don't know yet?
11:06We we have quotes from restoration as well as replacement.
11:11Okay.
11:12So, so, so I have quoted just a a price to restore the windows on the first floor and and the the window frames um through uh replication of components as required and um proxy consolidation and that. So some some windows some sacks are missing, some parting beads stops and th those would be replicated.
11:49So they're being restored, not replaced, right? Is that that's what my proposal?
11:54Okay, that's great.
11:55I I have two proposals.
11:57Okay.
11:58And and the building is 1880 American printing number six. So it's old.
12:04Mhm.
12:05But it it's functioning. We have 80 90 90 businesses in there right now that are functioning, but we want to make it better.
12:15Mhm.
12:17Okay. Do we have uh I propose make a motion.
12:22I'll make a motion to give a letter of support.
12:24Okay. Good.
12:25Second that.
12:26Okay. Second. Roll call. Or did you have a question? No. Jonathan. Okay.
12:32Jonathan Le. Yes.
12:33Connie Soul. Yes.
12:35Ashley Duna.
12:36Joyce Rogers. Yes.
12:38And Rick Manceni. Yes.
12:40So, you'll be getting a letter of support within a week or so.
12:43Thank you.
12:43Thanks, guys. Thank you.
12:48All right. Next is Little Theater.
12:57This is probably the only project that you're going to be uh expanding on.
13:02Yes.
13:02Yes.
13:04Um, so Aaron Jenjjo Viscoco. I am uh representing the board of directors for the Little Theater of Fall River. We have requested funding to replace our slate roof uh which is um just become really deteriorated. We'd like to use a composite slate with the Da Vinci um composite slate material um to replace that roof. and we're going to replace both the main building and then the addition um which we're going to fund
13:32ourselves to replace. So we're here seeking a letter of support from the historical commission for the use of I guess the Da Vinci slate.
13:44Okay. And then at a future date, you might when you're ready for construction, you should be reporting or coming back to us and we can work on the product and make sure that the installation meets the secretary of interior standards. We can help you with that.
14:01Yeah. Good.
14:02And our plan is to all the copper, you know, the roof cap, you know, there's all copper on all the edges and stuff.
14:07Our plan is with to work with the contracted. We want to maintain all of that, you know, as close as we can to the original or replace, you know, what is there if there is a product that would, you know, there's there's a few pieces that with the wind have like bent up and and things like that. So, we'll have to see, but our plan is to try and make it look as original as possible.
14:28Do any of the commissioners have uh questions?
14:33I just want I one of the reasons why I enjoy this commission is learning about things like this.
14:42This is fantastic. This is an interesting product and absolutely interesting. Something that others can learn about.
14:50Yeah. And it's the third of the price of, you know, replacing the whole roof with slate. And the nice thing is it's also sustainable. So they have a recycling program through the Da Vinci, you know, that product. So they'll actually recycle the waste materials and things. So it's also good for the planet.
15:08Excellent choice.
15:09Thanks.
15:13No further questions. We have enough I'll make a motion to provide a letter of support.
15:19And do we have a second?
15:21I'll second it.
15:23Jonathan seconds. Roll call.
15:25Jonathan Lima. Yes.
15:27Connie Soul. Yes.
15:28Ashley Dunia. Yes.
15:30Joyce Rodri. Yes.
15:31And Rick Manceni. Yes.
15:33Thank you.
15:34Thank you. Have a good evening.
15:37All right. Now, Christ the Rock Church.
15:47Good evening and congratulations, Rick.
15:50Thank you.
15:51Um, so yeah, I'm here for a letter of support for hopefully the final phase of our restoration. I came to you guys back in 2023. Jim Soul uh led me to you guys and Jason give give your name and the address.
16:04Oh, sorry. Robert Canavan. Uh I live at 330 Walnut Street, but the church is at 414 Rock Street.
16:11So, yeah, we started back in 2023. So, um we've been the city's been generous with us to help us through this project.
16:18Um if you've gone by the church lately, you see that we have band-aids on the corners to kind of protect me as I walk by and and our neighbors as we walk by.
16:26Um, but Paul and Civetc have been amazing to work with with Mike and uh his wife. So, yeah, we just were looking for a letter of support uh so we can finish our church tower.
16:38Okay, questions.
16:40Any questions?
16:44I'll make a motion that we approve a letter of support.
16:48Okay. Motion made by Connie Soul, seconded by Second that.
16:52Okay, Mr. Duna.
16:56and roll call.
16:57Jonathan Lemur, yes.
16:59Connie Soul, yes.
17:00Ashley Duna, yes.
17:02Joyce Rodri, yes.
17:03And Rick Manceni, yes.
17:05Thank you so much, guys.
17:06All righty. Thank you. Again, couple, you know, a week or so, we'll get a letter out.
17:10Sounds good. Thank you.
17:12Going to have a lot of letters to write this week.
17:14I guess.
17:17All right. Let's see. Sixth one is survey for bio reserve area.
17:31Good evening. Michael Boss here. I am the city's bar reserve forester project manager for that project. Um work out of 2929 Blossom Road.
17:42Thank you.
17:44And oh, so um this project may look a little bit familiar because uh this is going to be the second phase of a historic inventory that that uh was uh that is almost completed and you'll you'll hear more about later in the year. uh it was done by public archaeological labs identifying over 90 different historic and archaeological sites in the bio reserve area which is pretty much from
18:11Meridian Street all the way to the Freetown line. Um uh that was the first phase. So the second phase is going to be very similar. I actually uh left you each with a a a handout here which which um describes what was involved in the inventory of the first phase. Uh um and the product the final product is going to be a report and um prepared form A's form B's uh E and others that
18:41can go to mass historical to make sure that these properties are properly uh identified, described and protected in perpetuity. So that's that's kind of the the the mission of the bio reserve ecologically for biodiversity and things like that. But there's so many interesting archaeological and cultural features that we thought it was important to make sure that uh we know what's there, where they are, and to do
19:05all we can to protect them. So the the middle uh sheet is a map which shows um in in a very comprehensive way where these sites are across the bio reserve.
19:15You'll see North Puppa Pond and and Copicut Reservoir as as key uh east and west landmarks. And you'll see now this this really isn't meant to read because the font in order to get 18 square miles on a map the font is not readable but just gives you an idea of the the the scope and breadth of the of the features. So this phase two uh is identifying an additional 30 or so uh uh
19:44projects uh or sites I should say historic sites that either weren't at that point readily uh identified and and um so this would be continuing on this work in probably similar uh fashion.
19:58We'll have a similar product uh to uh to you know to be with the city as a permanent uh record of these things.
20:05They'll be they'll be on record here and also at Mass Historical.
20:09Good.
20:09So, we request a letter of support for this.
20:11All right. Any questions from the commissioners?
20:18Hearing none. Do we have a motion?
20:20I'll make a motion.
20:21Approve a letter of support.
20:23I'll second that motion.
20:24Okay, we have a motion, a second. Roll call.
20:28Jonathan Leur, yes.
20:29Connie Soul, yes.
20:31Ashley Duna, yes.
20:32Joyce Rogers, yes. and Rick Mancini.
20:35Yes.
20:35Thank you.
20:36Okay. Good luck.
20:37Thank you.
20:39I think you're on for a second go around here.
20:43That's right.
20:44The Fall River Waterworks Complex repair shed number 12.
20:48Right.
20:48All right.
20:49Um so this is um this is the most modest I think of of all the 1873 waterworks buildings that we have. Most of them you're familiar with. the 1873 pump house. Uh the standpipe. This is all on Bedford Street. Um this is a shed. This is what they call a um uh contributo building.
21:12Uh it's it's brick and what it needs is a uh it needs a new roof. It needs, you know, window doors and trim. And so it's our intention to uh go before the uh CPC and try to get funding. We went last year. In fact, you wrote a letter last year uh and thank you for that. Uh we were successful. It was getting quite competitive. So, we we're going to try
21:36again and see how we can do. So, I'd request a letter at this time.
21:40Okay.
21:41I'll make a motion to provide a letter of support.
21:44All right. Commissioner Con made a motion.
21:47I'll second the motion.
21:49Commissioner Soul seconded. Roll call.
21:52Jonathan Le, yes.
21:53Connie Soul, yes.
21:55Ashley Duna, yes.
21:56Rodri, yes. and Rick Mancini. Yes.
21:59Thank you.
22:00Grateful for your support.
22:01Thank you.
22:01Thank you. Thank you.
22:04Okay, we're moving right along. This is great. Uh the eighth item would be St.
22:09John the Baptist Church.
22:19Um excuse good evening. My name is Ehor Slicki and I'm a trustee at St. John the Baptist Ukrainian Church. Um this year we're applying uh with the CPC uh for a grant to paint the interior of the church, the walls and the ceiling. Um and so we're looking to get a letter of support from the historical commission uh for that grant. Um and look at um if you uh if you look in the package, you
22:46can see that the walls and the ceiling have a lot of um murals and and religious paintings. and we are not going to be touching any of those other than maybe a light cleaning with a feather duster or something like that.
22:58Um, other than that, the the the church the interior was last painted about 35 years ago. And so the paint has faded.
23:05It's it's cracked and there's some deterioration in in in the plaster work itself. And so we're looking through to re repaint just the painted parts matching the color. the the ceiling is is kind of a light sky blue and the walls um as as I remember originally were like a slightly off-white off white color and that's faded to sort it um one of the people who gave us an estimate said it looks like peach or something.
23:34It's really not. It's I think it's just the colors faded so much that um it's it's changed. So we want to bring it back to a lighter color. So that so that's kind of the the roughly the project then. So, we're looking to get a letter of support uh from the historical commission uh to the CBC.
23:52Okay, any questions?
23:57It it is historically painted inside and we don't normally deal with colors per se, but to remain historically significant, you have to somewhat maintain some similarity in color. So, that's going to remain.
24:14Yes. Yes.
24:15Okay.
24:15Yep. And we're making sure that we're not we're not going to cover up any of the or paint over or even try touch any any of the the uh the the murals and and their paint paintings that are on the walls and on the ceilings. The only part that we are going to touch um there is some decorative u um there are decorative bands in and so in some places where the plaster has come or
24:38either the plaster or the paint has peeled off and so those we're going to try to repaint those just those sections matching the color those color um is u on those bands is the background is like a dark red maroon color with sort of gold high design in in it.
24:57Sure. Sure. Okay.
24:58So, so that's the only part, but that's going to be um there's very minimal of that.
25:03All right. Good. And again, there are designs for that with the Secretary of Interior standard. So, u you know, have you ever received some of the guidelines that that pertain? So, you're all set there. All right. Good.
25:18Is the plaster going to be repaired?
25:22Um it's I think it's going to end up getting um uh patched. I think they're going to put a patch on it, um, some kind of fiber patch and then either put a fresh coat of plaster on that or just paint primer and then paint on that. Um, the building is so it's from 1914. So, um, the the plaster in here is is on wooden L.
25:44So, we're we're very u we want to be very careful about touching any of that either removing it and so we're trying to just keep everything in place as much as possible. Um there there are some cracks in it usually like in the joints where the where the walls meet. And so those are probably going to get repaired which is probably going to be like a um
26:03I I I assume it's going to be like a um a cloth strip and then it's going to be to cover the the crack itself and then painted over.
26:14Okay.
26:14Okay. Any other questions from the commissioners?
26:20Okay. Do we have a motion? I'll make a motion to give a letter of support.
26:25Commissioner Soul made a motion. Do we have a second?
26:28I'll second that.
26:30And second by Commissioner Lemur. Roll call.
26:33Jonathan Lemur. Yes.
26:34Connie Soul. Yes.
26:36Ashley Duna. Yes.
26:37Joyce Rogers. Yes.
26:38And Rick Mancini. Yes.
26:40Thank you very much.
26:41You're fairly welcome. Have a good evening.
26:43Thank you.
26:48Okay. And we did get a uh a call on the item the agenda item number nine. Uh got a call this afternoon. They're unable to attend. So we'll jump right to 10. This is the Keh Cathedral of St. Mary's of the Assumption
27:12with Thank you. Sure.
27:18Thank you. Thank you.
27:22Thank you.
27:24Thank you.
27:24Sure.
27:37Okay.
27:42Good evening.
27:43Good evening.
27:44Uh my name is uh Victor Andreosi. I'm the director of facilities for the Dascese of Fall River. And this is Paul Brooks.
27:50My name is Paul Brooks, the director of real estate and development for the Dascese of Fall River.
27:55450 Highland Avenue, Fall River.
27:58We're here to request a letter of support for the renovation of the Cathedral of St. Mary of Assumptions Tower.
28:06This this renovation, roughly $645,000 renovation, is to repoint all the mortar joints on the tower. Um, we requested $150,000 CPA funds. It helped fund both the scaffolding and the pointing of the tower. It's part of a larger project, roughly a $6 million renovation going on in the cathedral, which includes the windows, the pews, the interior lighting and painting. So, okay, just an off question. uh with all
28:38of this interior work and exterior work that you're progressing with, is that going to keep maintain its originality to the building?
28:48Absolutely.
28:48With the windows. Yes. Good. Okay.
28:51Good.
28:51Yeah. We've had we've had uh two specialized stained glass companies that no glass is being changed out. Any rotted or completely deteriorated wood is just being replaced. Uh but New England Stained Glass Boulevard Studios out in Iowa. They specialize in this stained glass.
29:13Good. Okay.
29:14Yeah.
29:15Any questions from the board?
29:18No.
29:19None.
29:21Okay.
29:22I'll make a motion.
29:23Right. We have a motion letter.
29:25Commissioner Kuna second.
29:29I'll second that motion.
29:30Okay. Commissioner Soul will second the motion. Roll call. Jonathan Le, yes.
29:36Connie Soul, yes.
29:37Ashley Dunia, yes.
29:39Joyce Rodri, yes.
29:40And Rick Mancini, yes. Okay. Thank you.
29:43Thank you.
29:51All right. 11. The Four River Waterfront Cultural District.
30:02Hi, my name is Sandy Dennis um executive director of Creative Arts Network. Um and we manage the Waterfront Cultural District in Fall River, Mass. And we are requesting a letter of support from the historical commission um because we are also applying for CPC funds. Uh this project is very similar to uh Michael Borsier's project only in a different section of Fall River. This particular
30:28survey would be u the waterfront cultural district in Fall River, Mass. I did drop off a packet to your office, but I emailed everyone a packet. So, I'm not sure if you received it. If you didn't, I have an extra one. Um, but basically, we are working with Roger Williams University to help us spearhead and kind of springboard this project.
30:50But then once their portion is done, we're going to need the funds to um work on another phase of it and eventually do the form B's Z's eyes, whatever forms we need because they're not properties.
31:02They're historic buildings, businesses.
31:06U we're also doing some land forms.
31:08They're going to be researching and surveying some land forms such as crab ponds. Um although Central Street Bridge is a structure because it's so unique and granite, we want that researched as well.
31:22So we're looking for a letter of support from this commission.
31:27Any questions from the board?
31:30No, I think we touched on this briefly at the last meeting and I commend you for pushing this because it's a good idea.
31:36Thank you.
31:38Any other questions?
31:41No. Hearing none. Do we have a motion?
31:43I'll make a motion to um provide a letter of support.
31:47I'll second that.
31:48Okay. First and seconded. Do we have a roll call?
31:51Jonathan Lima. Yes.
31:53Connie Soul, yes.
31:54Ashley Dunia, yes.
31:55Joyce Rogers, yes.
31:57And Rick Mancini, yes.
31:59Thank you. Thank you.
31:59You're welcome.
32:00Thank you.
32:03And let's see. Now we have the Marine Museum at Battleship Cove.
32:12Folks don't have don't have this yet.
32:23Thank you.
32:26Thank you.
32:27Thank you much.
32:40and you can introduce yourself. Right.
32:42Chris Nardi, Battleship Cove, um here to seek letter of support for restoring the windows on two sides of the Maritime Museum at 70 Water Street. Um had um two vendors in to look at the look at the project. Um, one of them was very confident in restoring the sashes that that had been taken down on the on the second floor and still remain in storage. Uh, we've been unable to locate
33:09the sashes for the north side which is Anowan Street, but the ones I just referred I should have mentioned are for the Water Street side. So sashes exist that can be restored for the Water Street side at the moment. sashes do not exist for the Anowan street side would have to be fabricated from scratch.
33:27Um, also there are some basement windows on the Anowan Street side that can be restored in terms of uh their accessibility at the moment.
33:35And again, you're going to maintain Secretary of Interior standards when you have these these windows manufactured.
33:43Absolutely.
33:44Yeah.
33:45Okay.
33:47Any questions from the board?
33:54I noticed on the Anowan side there it looks like there are some windows here that were maybe temporary or something.
34:05No, I unfortunately it's everyone has most people have passed away that had any historical involvement with that building. So I have no idea when the original windows were taken out and why.
34:16And those casement windows you're referring to, those are those those feed or they enter into the archive section that's on that side of the building. Um, these are coming out, correct? Okay.
34:28And the ones that would be going back in would be have to have a UV type membrane um adhered over the glass to keep the um artifacts from deteriorating from light, UV light, UV light.
34:43Any questions?
34:51One thing I missed in that in that brief presentation there was there is a door on the water street side leading into the kitchen area that for some reason we we haven't addressed that yet. But again, we need to do some research and see what exactly that looked like. We do have a we do have a photo of the building back when the windows were back in. That's not in this package, but
35:12hopefully that door does show up. I haven't seen the photo yet. I just was told about it today.
35:16All right. And you also have, I guess, a loading door up on the second level at the Water Street side, right? So, we looked at that. That's actually still there. Um, but it's been covered with paneling just like that. I don't know if you remember the facade that was there. The same type of paneling has been was put on both sides of that. So, that will be undone, if you will, and restored.
35:38Okay. Good.
35:42Any questions from the board?
35:45No.
35:45Hearing none.
35:46No.
35:47Do we have a motion?
35:49I will make a motion to provide a letter of support.
35:52Motion from Commissioner Couna.
35:55I'll second that motion.
35:56Seconded by Commissioner Soul. Do we have a roll call?
36:00Jonathan Leur. Yes.
36:02Connie Soul. Yes.
36:03Ashley Dunia. Yes.
36:05Joyce Rodri. Yes.
36:06And Rick Manseni. Yes.
36:08Thank you.
36:09Thank you.
36:12Oh, wow. We're winding up very nicely here, huh? We have the Forov Historic Society Master Preservation Plan.
36:28Good evening everyone. I'm Caroline Alen U for the Fall River Historical Society at 451 Rock Street and we are here um requesting a letter of support from the um historical commission uh for our application to the CPC um and it is for phase two of our roof and exterior restoration project of our building. Um phase one is currently underway.
36:53Um the request for the CPC that we have is $582,735 against our total uh project cost for the roof um which is 3 million um500, uh422.
37:10Um so the um museum buildings as I'm sure you know is one of the finest preserve French second empire structures in the city. Um and if funded our project uh will complete the exterior restoration of the building um from our set line up. Um and uh part of this was also and part of phase one was to match um the original paint color to our building. Theirricolor uh scheme that is there right now is not
37:38original um to the building. It was actually all one color. Um so we have had that uh 1870 paint matched. Um, and the plan is to replicate it um throughout the entire woodwork of the building.
37:53Okay.
37:55Any any questions?
37:57Yeah. Regarding the project, chair, if I'm a member of the society, should I be voting on this?
38:03Uh, you're only a Are you a member of the committee or just a member of the I'm just a member.
38:09That's fine. You can probably be all of us.
38:13Yes. Yes. Yes.
38:16Okay. Any other questions?
38:19No. Do we have a motion?
38:21I'll make a motion to give a letter of support to the historical society.
38:26Motion that and seconded. Roll call.
38:29Jonathan Lima. Yes.
38:31Connie Soul, yes.
38:32Ashley Duna, yes.
38:34Joyce Rodri, yes.
38:35Rick Mancini, yes. Okay.
38:37Thank you so much. Yeah.
38:41Okay. Well, that boy, we did very well on that. I thought we'd be here for a while, but we got right through it. This is good. Okay.
38:50Great projects.
38:52Yeah, that's why.
38:53Yeah. Good.
38:54Okay. Uh, new business.
38:58Uh, I can someone just make a motion.
39:01We'll talk about the waterfront cultural district and Roger Williams. So, just to open up the new business. I'll make a motion to open up new business to discuss the waterfront cultural.
39:13Okay. And seconded.
39:14Sure. I'll second that.
39:16All right. Uh what it is is the waterfront cultural district which Sandy spoke about is actually using the Roger Williams University volunteers again.
39:27Uh and they're going to perform an indepth study again. Form B's and form A's are going to be completed. uh and essentially we're all familiar with that from so I don't have to go into that but maybe for the general public just let them know that the area the cultural district in Fall River where either 50 or 51st there are only 51 cultural districts I believe out of the 351 cities and towns in Fall River
39:55and we have the pardon in the state in the state correct and thank you and the um cultural district extends from the Commonwealth Landing and heads south to probably where the Luns uh waterfront uh boats are stored and then turns up to Columbia Street, runs up the Main Street. So, it's it's right and it follows Route 79 east onto the water. So, it's rather a large area and it's going to be all looked at by Roger
40:31Williams at no cost to the city. So, what a great resource they are.
40:35Very good. So, thanks to you also, Sandy and and Dave. Thank you so much.
40:41All righty.
40:43No other new business.
40:46Okay. There's uh no significant structures being uh added. And the old business is the Steepbrook bioreserve form B update that again was reviewed by Mike Labosia. It's pretty much wrapping up and there will be a presentation here at this committee in November. That will be the second uh Tuesday, which I believe is the 21st of November. And we're going to have a sizable group.
41:22Again, we're going to try and invite uh the mayor, city councilors, u uh our rep two representatives uh from these areas.
41:31Uh and there'll be preservation historic society, preservation society. We'll be getting all these individuals in to view this. It's quite impressive. Uh I I've seen the the reports. I've actually participated in them and it's it's really outstanding the amount of work that's being done and what's out in that bio reserve that most of us were unaware of, you know, so really really exciting.
41:59The second item would be the uh Highlands local historic district update that was funded funded through the um PAL group and we're about to start it looks like there's and all of the commissioners here are invited if you're interested in it'll be on Thursday the 9th of October. is going to be the prelim preliminary walk through. Uh they're going to do some assessments and and walk the neighborhoods and take a
42:32visual uh look at the buildings and and we're going to sort of strategize what we're going to be doing uh with with the the properties. So, that's going to occur October the uh 9th on a Thursday.
42:47All right. We're not quite sure the time, but I'll make sure that I get an email out telling you when the time is, and we are not sure we're going to meet yet. PL is still trying to decipher that. So, they will get to us and and let us know where to meet and how. Okay.
43:04Uh, any questions?
43:07No.
43:08No questions. Would someone make a motion to adjurnn?
43:10I will make a motion to adjourn at 6:43.
43:13Wow. Okay. At 6:43 we are the point of order first. Um yes the minutes um would would we post that October 9th meeting publicly in the event that four or more of us show up for this walkth through or um well it's not going to be a historic right it's not going to be a historic meeting. We're just going to be a walk through while they're looking at properties to assess identif.
43:49Yep. No. Good, good question. Thank you.
43:51That's very very uh very good question, but we will not be doing historic commission business per se.
44:00Thank you.
44:01Fair enough. In that case, I will second the motion on the table to adjurnn.
44:05All right. Let's take a roll call.
44:08Jonathan Le, yes.
44:10Connie Soul, yes.
44:11Ashley Duna, yes.
44:13Jarius Rogers, yes.
44:14And chairman Rick Mancini, yes.
44:17Hey