9.6.2023 Park Board

regular meeting of the board of power Commissioners agenda and order of business Wednesday September 6 2023 this meeting will be held in the city council uh hearing room beginning at 5 30 P.M sitting in must be submitted by email to the park board at Fall rivermass.org by noon 9 6 23 meeting will be available for viewing for the government.fredtv.us and channel 18.

pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present in deemed knowledge acknowledge and permissible Roll Hall commissioners BJ McDonald Burns Helen Rego Joseph Da Silva

citizen input do we have any citizen input

we have any other citizen input that came in or just so we have four people signed up for citizen input it is 5 32 PM everyone will have three minutes to State their case

right I call up the first person Eileen Raposa concerns to be addressed Davis playground just state your name and address for the record please

Eileen Repose the 813 Meridian Street okay okay I'm here about the Davis playground um there's been some talk about wanting to do things with the playground and open it up to the public I've lived there for 32 years I know what the agreement was with the donation of the property to the city and I've been at this for quite a few years thankfully after at least 15 years of police work and everything we've cleaned

up the neighborhood where there is no trouble I have countless amounts of video tape of things that are going on once the playground is open up to the public and even if it wasn't what was going on there I'm not sure of what city council is aware of as far as the ordinances are and everything if someone from the park board could give me that information I would greatly appreciate what the audiences are and everything

um I heard that there was they wanted to put golf and pickleball and everything in the playground I would discourage that mentally number one there is an ordinance there is an ordinance in the city in the park Department it's illegal to golf in any park or playground in the city here I have a bag of golf balls that have whisked by my head while I'm in my backyard because they come to the playground to golf

do you know how dangerous that is when you get hit by a golf ball or when you run one over with a lawnmower these are our homes my neighbors are incredible we all respect each other we respect our neighborhood we respect everyone who comes there with you from the neighborhood or not there is known in the attitude whatsoever up there people come to the playground with their children from all over the city

we watched their children grow up as they come to the playground I had a girl last year come and knock at my door I did not recognize her she's been coming to the playground since she was a little girl she came to say hello and say she was off in college I don't think you would get that kind of respect or response from someone who didn't feel welcome at the playground for its intended purposes

or we're asking for respect in that that neighborhood as any neighborhood in the city should have everyone deserves to be treated with respect not called names not made to say this one said it and it's not me I'm here before you and I'll tell you what I say we welcome everybody they came to do a neighborhood cleanup the pot cleanup I put out two cases of water I can't even begin to tell you what I

got in return as they came saying they were from the city that was disappointing it's a slap in the face not to mention the man whose family gave that playground to the city and what its purposes were for that man means an awful lot to me my husband my daughter his family means the world to us people say they're just your neighbor no they're not my neighbors they're part of my family they're the

reason why my husband and I were able to raise our daughter in neighborhood like that with no concerns if we need anything they are always there if they need anything we always stay it doesn't matter what part of our street you come from we are all there for one another every neighborhood should be like that because then we we probably wouldn't have as many issues in this city as we do I know it's not your fault

I've been made well aware of that now that's why I'm here before you tonight so no one can say well you have never been before the park board here I am before you guys I'm telling you before I take it to the city council which I will do and I have no problem with that but when you have to look out your living room window and watch people cross your property and they're drinking

and they're smoking and this was before marijuana was even made legal or they're molesting a child out in front of your home because you live in a wooded area how do you not get angry at that how do you stay in your house and wait for someone to come and help that little boy as a parent you can so if people take offense to the way we behave up there because we protect our neighborhood

that's just the way it is and that boy that would that happened to he didn't even live in our neighborhood but you can bet your bottom dollar if a kid comes up in our neighborhood he's going to be safe because he has all of us out there looking to make sure he is yeah we may be out there we'll watch them have fun that's what that playground was for not for everybody to come up there it's

not a road there is no parking there there's no lights there's no bathroom facilities so where do you think these people go when they decide to make it a a whole day event with a hundred people where do you think they're going to the bathroom in a plastic bag and throwing it over my fence I would have brought that too but that was a little disgusting I'm very glad you did that thank you

but the police department I do have the videotapes I will not show them in a public form the police department has them the district attorney has them they went to the proper Authority so I would not get sued for doing the rules we have to wrap it up yeah so I'm just here before you guys I appreciate your time I just want to make it aware that I did come before the park board

and I will be taking it to the city council and if you guys could please forward me the ordinances and the rules on what you guys have set for the park board well I know the rules are is nobody belongs in the Park after 9 pm at any City Park City Park it's lights out the liquor alone not no liquor barbecue flies the item is on there agenda to discuss a

little bit later in the meeting okay thank you for coming hi thank you guys very much for your time I actually met Mrs Smith up there last week the first time I've ever been to Davis play I've heard about it passed by Meridian Street for years I thought it was the sort of hole in the band when I went back there and seen that grassy areas this is beautiful it is beautiful back here I'm like how

can we allow anything to come back here there's no access to it in up in I even tried walking through to see if we could do anything but it's all woods and it's water department Lane so you can't mix the two it you can't even mix the two right there are a lot of a lot of concerns with that thank you very much hey next person is Betty foreign

I'm the granddaughter um my grandmother Charlotte Davis cologne was a lady that gave the city the land for the park can you just can you just say your address yeah 8 45 I'm sorry no it's okay 845 Meridian Street my land is land before the basketball court um it's also adjacent to the land that goes to the Lane there is a filing it is considered the filing okay and that's what it is is a fire

lane it's not a road there is no access to a road there there's not enough land to the road or a road there as well um when the basketball hoops are up there um three o'clock in the morning I had somebody drive up the lane they crossed over our next door neighbors wrote uh Yad or Mayon they took their car up there they positioned their car on the basketball court with the lights fully

on at three o'clock in the morning so they could play basketball there lights shown right in our house which was right in my bedroom to play basketball however that's not the problem so we lights on the basketball if you have lights up there on you're going to have a problem they're going to have kids up there in a park there is no monitorization with police officers up there is all sides of the park there is no

surveillance of anything up in that Park so lights are out as far as that goes I consider I don't know about how you consider lights up there or any as far as parking um because really I Wall Street Parking really there shouldn't be any up there because there's no no police patrolman up there on any sides of the park um the gates absolutely I would help hope to God that you would keep the gate closed

because one day I came home from work the gate was wide open and that entails everybody to go up into there and it was a scary feeling when I came home from work and the gate was open and there was Cars popped up on the basketball court um anybody it's a huge field as you had seen and if anybody decided to go and play chicken they could do that because of that field okay

you know how teenagers can be at certain times if they get it into their mind and doing my grandmother gave the use of the land for a park and basically at their terminology a park would be like a slide swings basketball court baseball fields stuff like that our terminology of parks now have been blown out of proportion to high fancy things my I would like to know what you guys all think of what pox are now

I have no idea what you guys all think of what a box should be what it should look like um and I don't know what your idea of what a park should look like and what it should have so I would like to know from you what a park should be like and what it should have okay all the parks in the city most of them that I see all have four

like have streets around them they can be monitored and stuff apoc can't be monitored the police actually have to go up into the park and they can monitor it apoc can't be monitored that way that's a common problem you know it's a concern safety wise for the children and everything else you know I'd like it to be a park but a neighborhood park you know yes they can be parking park on the street

not up in a park but that can't be observed by safety issues you know by people that can keep it safe you know when we do have the reservation back there we and stuff you know it's a concern it's a safety issue and I'm not blaming you guys or anybody else or anybody it's nobody's fault but it's just you need to keep safe you know the environment safe we need to

keep children safe we need to keep neighbors safe as well you know that's my concern and everything do you have any questions of me do you know when it was donated that was or donated as a to be used as a park or just recreational I have that information it was either donated as a school to use just a school or donated as as a playground park and that was done when I was you know

before I was born and it was actually um about 50 years ago that the city actually took and made it into a playground yeah and actually that slide that slide was still in pretty good shape I mean it would still beat these slides that they're making now that were plastic it was a metal slide

so you all have a good night next person is in apologize just uh state your name in that just my name is Ann Macon I live at 845 Meridian Street I live with my cousin when I was young I used to go up there all the time and play uh recently a city councilor came up viewed it and said he was just looking didn't give any information on what was

going on we've been calling him and at the city council I saw on TV and I'm appalled at what he said that the neighbors are panicking we just called with concerns we weren't panicking then he also stated that the man that donated would want to see all this if you don't know a person don't put um words in somebody's mouth that you don't know I don't think he knows the

man or the family what they would want to do it's been like 50 years nobody put new equipment up there all of a sudden it's let's go up let's see what we can do that's not right we had neighborhood kids that used to play that they all grown up we never had any for a while but now there's neighborhood kids so I don't think it's fair that they're trying to put different things in when

it was made to be a playground um and we used to play up there all the time and it's hard to see when somebody comes in and says don't worry about it it's not fair to the neighbors to not worry what's going to go back there there's no other access to put a parking lot or a street there's a fire lane that's what it was meant to be it was meant to be locked so

we wouldn't have people going up there with their cause at all hours of the night we also have people walking on the street going up at midnight when where is trying to sleep to go to work I don't think that's right either and that's all I have to say thank you yes yes this feels there and a playground but they don't allow anyone to use it no that's what I was going to say is I used

to bring my kids up there and they walked it yeah

not even a lot but you can walk they shut the gates at the school property you can walk the school property and get on that playground no you might be able to feel like a crack but you definitely can't drive through to get over there because all of their gates are clean but I think Spencer board and I live right by guns abort and I've taken my kids to that playground how expensive board and if

you walk through so I don't know about other schools I don't know questions technically anyone can use any park yeah whether you're supposed to use it or not that's a different story like the school department even though you can get in there does not mean you're supposed to be using it thank you thank you we have one more person for citizen input uh Joel joint uh for Park permit uh Boy Scouts

good evening uh Joe joint 157 Frost Street let me preface this what I was handed this task a week ago not knowing any 30 days to try to do what I'm doing the Boy Scouts are doing like a regional recruitment with 52 different chapters and each chapter is responsible for getting permits and such what we want to do is put just put up a table some flyers about our group have a

couple of Scouts man it with some adults uh Kennedy Park I guess is booked for that date it's September 23rd so Maplewood Park is probably the next best choice she said that was available I think I took to Janet and I'm hoping you can just slide this in because it's uh you know we're just putting the table like this in the park for two hours this is not anything the

board would be able to vote on or approve um I we do have a Girl Scout one uh agenda so it would be something of whether things like this and I think canvas have addressed this before whether this is something that would be able to do because it's a simple table whether it would be something that could be decided by me so that's something that we can address

um but I did uh tell him that at least come to Citizen input to inform you of what um had gone you know I'm trying to coordinate at the last minute right and I'm trying to coordinate this with all the 52 other towns in Rhode Island and Mass right

so so him and about six other boys unfortunately a couple years ago covet decimated our group we had like 30 almost we have like 12 now so we got to do recruitment and get these kids engaged get them off their iPads get them out walking in nature that's good so we've been doing it for four years and I I joined just by default 30. so that's about it all right thank you thank you thank you

I would think there could there could probably be some parameters set up where DNC can approve small things like that yes I just wanted it to come before you so it was this was a last minute for him to call me in the September 23rd I didn't want to do it anything where he didn't inform anyone so so I have no problem working with him to have him set up a table somewhere but I

just wanted the board to be aware um that it wasn't something that you were going to be able to vote yeah I know too is uh sometimes it happens in that so we're just gonna I would say let's you were saying about uh giving her some leeway I know like when covet happened the Board of Health had to get information out there and that I think in some situation like that she has the

permission from this board to use the pox to put public notifications on board to something up to notify the public and everything stuff like that I think she has that leeway I just like to bring it to the boys they call you so I wanted to make this feel important so that's just I want to slept well tonight all right no more citizen input a closed citizen input at 5 55 pm

acceptance of the minutes from the August 2nd 2023 regular Park boy meeting motion to accept by commissioner Rigo said uh seconded by commissioner uh Burns all in favor say aye new business requests from item a sorry requests from the Diocese of Fall River to use the Kennedy Park Drive on October 9 2023 from 6 pm to 9 p.m for the annual Candlelight procession this is an annual event I make a motion

to approve second commissioner Burns me that most seconded by commissioner McDonald all in favor say aye RnB request from Michelle Hamilton veterans service officer for the use of Veterans Memorial Bicentennial Park the Wall Street on September 15th for an event at 10 A.M and for a ceremony for the gold star families on 9 24 at 1 pm works out commissioner Rio made that motion five second by commissioner Burns

all in favor say aye aye item C request from Michelle excuse me item Corey Quest from uh mobile Adventures the use of Kennedy Park Pulaski and ruggle spot to conduct small family oriented nature type activity programs on various Saturdays from 1 pm to 3 P.M from September 16th through October 28th is there a song well actually I lied um as long as there's no other events on these days so that

yeah I mean all the parks were big enough is this one person's on one side the other side is it Patrick

reservations where got it yeah I actually had them at the Housing Authority uh this past year and they came with their mobile band their excellent awesome what they teaching at the kids with the nature and are like cool through I make a motion to approve second any uh commissioner Burns made that motion the second by commissioner Regal all in favor say aye aye Mrs uh Smith will be in touch with you permit

item D request from Jonathan Murray from The Odyssey Charter School for the use of bertlin Park Wardell Street on September 19th 25th and October 13th and Pulaski on 10-5 from 4 P.M to 5 30 P.M for his vast City flag football program anybody here for that these dates are available and diamonds not using them on those dates so we can squeeze them in wherever we could plus we date they had to go it wasn't available

I do have any questions any Commissioners have any questions I do have some questions about this and I told Mrs Smith about it today this Park Board is what runs the parks we make the rules regulate we regulate the rules yeah for this platform Ms Smith is the director when someone I see the emails you guys don't see all these the emails that we share the emails wanted something but

when someone's requesting this and well oh Miss Smith will reach out and say well I don't know if somebody else is using that these groups decide that they're going to contact them other groups and try to negotiate stuff no I'm going to throw down public record now you come to this pop board We Run The Parks not other agencies not other schools you come to us then Miss Smith makes the rules and schedules uh

letting the public know that right now if it happens again I will as long as I'm on this board deny every permit that comes in front of me if you don't follow these rules I think the way to avoid that is to just let them know whether the park is taken but not tell them who would take I don't know I don't know the conversation but if that is just make

just let's say the park has taken that day and yeah figurative new day and not I think they know I I'll be honest with you I think they know but the problem with that is they know who's using it so they reach out to that person but the rule that the park board has is an organization that has a permit cannot sublet it to someone else so that is where God this goes back to this whole

conversation of the exclusive use of these fields by particular groups and right so exactly when it's the same group that monopolizes it then you can understand you know why somebody else would say well maybe they can give us a couple days because they have it every other day right so that I think is this yes so they they organization know right on their you cannot sort of let your field

because what was happening is people would get these feels and then they would try to charge the other person to use these fields that's when prompted rosters that's what all these rules that we have in place were prompted by

so that that takes so much time well and that's the conversation we've had last time was you can use it for games but not for practice and and this ever going tug of war of like you don't want the fields not to be used they're there to be used but when they're monopolized it creates an issue okay got it with that being said there was a move already in place too try to stop

that sometimes I guess they feel if they can they they said we could use it well that puts the league in a bad light then why did you take it if you're able to give it up right you know that's kind of just just like the last meeting last month's meeting when we had one organization given up the use of pot to a new group that was going to be coming in or what would basically what

they're going to give us the keys no no no please come back to Mrs Smith myself and uh Mr Smith went there today by the way where we went last week and then we can talk about that during the

the groups that are involved in this they're okay with these dates and they're open and they got the four dates they're going to use the floor mats and it does not interfere with the dates that odd games okay and you uh you got all the proper paperwork from them they're gonna have to give me the information but schools are kind of on a different playing field so to speak it's not a private non-profit

I make a motion to approve Mexican Burns made that motion do I have a second second by commissioner McDonald all in favor say aye item e H information from the floor of a Garden Club regarding Bush types they are looking to play in the Kennedy Park regarding at the Pavilion area on Broadway I think that they did this actually the last time without even realizing it because they let it indicated that they

were going to use box boxwoods and whatever and they're very aware that I spoke to her that we're not we don't want any buried type of plants so um they did say they were going to probably go mostly with boxwoods so with that being said it's just Shrubbery around the tree that they presented to us last month most to approve except the place on fire no he can no he can approve it right information

actually well no because now they're telling me but Foxwood they were giving us five times I thought it said yeah they were going to be planting box loads lunches I thought it was we already approved it as well you may have you may have but I'm not 100 sure so you're better off taking the ocean in seconds I think we voted on the tree never talked about commission McDonald made that motion second by commissioner uh

Burns all in favor say aye no all right item f request from Natalie Almeda for the use of Ruggles Park Locust Street on September 16th from 12 to 3 P.M for the Girl Scout recruitment playground takeover day and we already she's doing it again oh okay so it must have been must have been a success all right do I have any questions motion to approve by commissioner Rego although I have a second second second

by commissioner Burns all in favor say aye IMG request from James Crossing possible tournament pickleball lessons and information regarding a youth a school Youth League pickleball courts B Street

state your name and address uh James cross in 1800 Highland Avenue just tell us what you want to do um so basically um the first thing that I want to do is um Cranston had reached out to me to kind of have uh interleague tournament with Fall River um so I was looking to use the courts uh Saturday October 28th probably from like 10 to either two or three o'clock

did he I mean for something for like an event you have to put in like an events like the application or or does this service as that because at first he wasn't sure of the date so if you got your emails I said you need to come forward with dates and times Etc okay um now this what you had originally said was something with food truck so that makes it a whole different thing is that

um happening that because that becomes a whole different ball game I'm going to leave that off the table for now um I mean I don't know how big of a group of people are going to be there um so I'm okay without doing a food truck so that makes everything a lot easier yes okay a thousand percent because talks have to get permit food trucks you have permits they're not going to worry about it yeah

I believe your league has reliability Insurance correct right now um well I still I never got it because I still haven't been approved for uh anything so far so that's up to the boy the father's at the tournament well the tournament doesn't do they need any insurance well the one normally we can give a one-day permit for someone to play now the question is will there being a tournament out of town people

coming in it's a little bit more of like the leaves that have tournaments have a standing liability policy so you can get this possibly food for um I guess it's going to depend on how many people you get um it's going to be uh 32 people so when does it become so something like this because it's a one day is it something where you request rosters all that jazz or is it

just like so like pieces 32 right now what if 150 people show up then we have a problem that's what I'm saying like if it's like an open thing where like anyone no no I'm just saying if it's an open tournament and I'm assuming anyone can send it I guess my question would be what would be the difference between an event like this or or I guess the other one is like um I

think the police they have like three or three on three tournament at Highland Park basketball yeah they do liability insurance they do and I would say that this event would be similar to like a three-on-three basketball tournament that they have yeah that would check all of those boxes I would think that that would be the same thing the city has a second insured yeah right no and I I agree with that

but that would be yeah we've never had a pickleball tournament before right but we have basketball tournaments every summer the same idea it's a three on three thing you sign up ahead of time we know how many teams are going to be there and it's the same idea yeah that's the only thing um there's been a lot of people going there now um I mean people have been parking on

the grass for the most part and then um yeah and I mean it's it's not only us playing as a lot of other people playing and it's like sometimes like 40 50 people that come there and it's just everybody's parking wherever they can um but I don't I can't do anything about it we'll address them like it just pockets it's almost to me this is my Outlook on it is that this

belongs to pickleball and it's not right it's not right this is open to the public I knew people taking over the whole place well this isn't just me this is all the people that go in there and playing tennis and everything else pickleball peek below are taking over the pack I mean this is open to the public they haven't got a chance you guys have always got something going

that they can't get in there um for the most part everybody that's come there has been able to play there's been no it's never been an issue with nobody being able to play um and I like I said as always I invite you guys to come down there and see it whenever you guys would like to um everybody does a tournament side so I really can't say that you you know I don't I don't

agree with you I think everybody has a tournament I think like BJ said the three on threes those kind of things so if you have to get a one-day liability because we're inviting you know a lot of people more than normal Fall River residents just going there it now becomes a quote-unquote an event and I guess that's what okay so I see no issue with that my issue is more

a safe I I know the issue that we do with parking and I've addressed that I would love to see the parking lot expanded and I've addressed that one a couple of times but I don't think we're going to tackle that parking problem no not before right but I I just want everybody to know that that is a concern and when you now have a tournament there you're attracting that many more people so

while I don't say that that should be the deciding factor I want to bring It Forward because going forward before the next pickleball season we need to address that parking lot it shouldn't have been addressed and this has nothing this is this is in-house problem this need this should have been addressed immediately when it came to our attention and now if there's anything that's going to go there which

we'll talk about I think that the parking lot needs to be because you have to get a deep Place detail no I can't say that he has to get a police detail that stuff I was going to say yeah no that's not we can't request that I think I think I don't even get one for my events you have to pay for that that's awesome

they will probably just pull up yeah and kill somebody and put

this board is gonna go with this I say again it's a learning curve because we don't know if it's going to attract a million people what we would like to do I think would be a good idea if you once you close your rosters because I'm sure you're going to have a certain date that you close things off let us know what we're looking at so we are aware and can make the police aware

if there's an issue and at least let them know there is a tournament going on down there yeah special question if Hawking is an issue we wouldn't want them popped on the grass can we allow them to park at the Overlook I don't say anybody can park over there but I'm just saying yeah like that's that's one that's I would rather have them pop over there that's not necessarily all graphical that's like

mostly dirt right at the top it's there's not grass up there if you go like down further there's grass but when you first drive in there it's just straight dirt then have them oh yeah for sure yeah that's another area too that down on the side of the there's residents there's always people parked there but it's from the houses that are right there oh really yeah if I'm looking at if I'm thinking of the

same old softball field is going the street that goes down once you cross the middle I mean once you cross Bay there's a whole area there I think it was in there yeah it goes behind uh with yeah that street there's or is maybe the church that I'm thinking of yeah that's what I'm saying there's always people parked over there isn't it yeah no the church is right there on the corner

um anyways at any rate we're gonna have to deal with the parking I think if you're saying you have more than 32 people down there at one any given time then it's just going to be pocket on the grass as usual also but at the same time we can tell them don't park on the grass Park in the Overlook or find other parking because if there's a point where somebody from try to keep the Park yeah

off of Bay Street okay and try to limit the travel on the grass but if you go over Club Street there is a dirt area there okay yeah but how how about I make him uh can I don't know that it's very listen this is my point

you know something happens to their car or if because it's not a parking lot so at this point I think the board's just got to go with let's we've been pocket on the grass for three four five months we're gonna park on the grass for five months in two weeks you know what I mean and then at that point let this this Mr Crossing seems to have you know no problem with bringing things

forward maybe he brings forward to bus and we bring it forward to the administration or whoever that we need a parking to improve the parking down there because it is becoming a problem so he's bringing this to us we can bring it to the administration and say listen whatever's going to go down there and like I said I've already addressed this so we can talk about it later but I

think at this point what we have to deal with we have to deal with if he's saying he's had 40 plus people down there and he's got 32 people coming for this tournament all right what are we going to do use the side streets try to utilize Club Street try to keep as much as you can off of the grass especially if it's wet the days before you have your tournaments because then that's just

going to be a real pickle um I mean I can always just let you know it wouldn't be now the residents use that as well for them um but no down further down further there's probably 10 parking spots yep further up there's more spots lower toward the bottom and you're better off talking on Bradford or middle even I feel like the thing is they just don't want to walk let's be honest there's

more than enough parking they just don't want to walk but you don't want to walk if everybody's a warm-up we're going to play pokerball I think most of them will be able to walk down there you say that now it just takes one person to park in the garage that's the problem you were there exactly the press conference when that person came flying in and almost crashed through the fence

on the grass yeah and that's why I asked I mean it's a three-day and then I mean and there's people down there every night so I think I think Mr Carlson has other items but for now I don't know if we want to take an action on that or if that's October again this week whatever you want to do I don't know um my opinion would be he's probably gonna plan this so I would think that

you would have to vote yes or no on its tournament we realize the parking is going to be an issue maybe when if we can figure something out between now and then we can let him know and he can let these people know where they can park if we can figure out that they can't park in that lower area um I just think they're not going to want to go walk from that

but I make a motion to approve the tournament second

no this pickleball Play Just but I didn't take it I didn't get a moment I didn't do the whole thing yet I'm just saying I'm I'm finishing the motion but I want to make sure there's no food trucks whoa I still have a little concern with the parking area because I I know we say 32 and then all of a sudden we have a hundred and something people and then the parking that grows a little along

that grass line decides to start wrapping around the rest of the grass those wooden horses that's what I was going to say that's really what you're really doing but this is that's what I'd like to add to the motion that Mr D uh Charlie have saw horses put down there and block off an area better be pretty heavy saw horses well guess what if they move it Mr Cross is going to be responsible he's going to

it's his tournament he needs to police his own tournament and tell him tell them they cannot move him push it up aye aye captain add that to my motion okay all right uh commissioner Burns um parking area yes to be determined okay yeah we'll be calling it off uh commissioner mcdonnelly demolition seconded by commissioner Burns all in favor say aye aye oh that was the second I'm sorry Mr Burns made the motion second by

commissioner McDonald on famous III hi hi item two oh you have some you add some other stuff right the next one it says pickleball lessons and stuff for that yet um so what I'm doing right now is I'm going through a certification to get um all my stuff together for it um what I was gonna do is what everybody else in like Bristol and Elizabeth Aries too is um just do it through the city I

mean they got their own insurance and everything else like that so I'm just wondering if that's something I'm able to do with Fall River I don't know the answer to that I was gonna say that's not us is it it would be you but I think that I would think we have a little bit of time to work out though yeah nothing has to be done anymore no I wouldn't think do lessons now because these pickleball

courts are going to be closing November and he could partner with one of the CD records yeah I feel like we've had this conversation several times so can we like not revisit this again because I think this is the third time for him to see the wreck to see if she would be literally yeah I have places indoors I can use too um I just I guess that what they do is they

put it through the city website to offer to people forever and then just do it that way so that way if people want to take on the mentally yeah I feel like CD Rack or something like that would be they may be even you know do something where they do it like to see what the interest is and then they may even take it up as one of their little

programs for the summer or whatever so I think that would be a very good partnership okay um and well I don't know what you guys have on the list holy names um so that doesn't have to be anything soon either because that's not gonna be done outside right now um but I just want to know everybody keeps asking me to get like a pickleball League going for the kids um that would probably be when it starts

getting warmer I was gonna say I um how do they gonna play because you guys don't give up a minute that's that's why that's why I'm bringing it up because I'm not sure the process for all this stuff process would be whether it be for kids whether it be for adults I actually know I actually know that answer yeah it's going to be at Brooklyn Park because it wasn't done

right and it only can be used by kids yeah yeah okay so they're recommending Breitling okay all right as of January 1 they open up the board opens up calendar year 2024 and that's when you can start sending it doesn't mean first come first serve so don't okay get your post mark 1201 common Nancy you're gonna have an entity you have insurance so I had all that stuff um I thought

that's I was gonna come here today I thought that was what I needed to know for like having times or storage and stuff like that was for like times of storage um which I brought up in the past um to be able to use that little gray Shack my library Shack is an electrical shed with hundreds of thousands of dollars of electrical in it okay so that'll be a box um so then it would be

to get like a day or two for dedicated and then the Dropbox to be placed in there okay so so didn't we do this already we did and this is the part where I'm like I do not understand why we keep I'm not trying by any means but we have talked about this on and on again if you want to set up a league you have to get everything together then come to the board let us

know the rosters let us know all of the the information that we use necessary at this point if you have you have no League set up thus far there is no need for a box we said that once you have a league set up and ready to go and have a full plan for the said League then we would revisit the box that's what I had done in the beginning and then you guys kept saying

we'll visit this next month so that's why I haven't got insurance or anything yet because I was told correct okay so any kind of lead that you're going to put together we have seasonal courts so before Halloween all our nets come down uh lights all go off okay the party's over till spring okay so what I would suggest is what you're seeing right now where we had said um last time get that all together

because I think by the time this comes back to this board in March this board probably should know if we're charging probably because this has been this can has been kicked down the road so we need to know if we're charging we need to know if we're going to have designated times and if you are going to put in for designated times for your lead they're going to limit them to certain days

certain times and I think this is what we talked about it with Brooklyn Park at the beginning of the meeting the monopolization of Brooklyn Park so it's not just the pickleball courts that have an issue with it being monopolized so it's every part of your if I'm not going to be for now I think this board is going to Coast from what I'm gathering coast and this is our first tournament we'll have that

information what should we do with tournaments so okay I think we're gonna we're gonna go along with because you said it's all working out fine you told Ellen everything's working oh yeah no everything's good so I think we're going to go with the life is good till all right yeah we had said that we need to get through one full pickleball season when it was the first day through

when we take the nuts down like we need to get through a whole thing before we which is what we said in the very beginning when you had said you wanted like certain times and we were like we don't even know what this is we have to see what the magnitude of all of this is going to be and I apologize for my frustration I just feel like even when talking about the lessons like you're

saying you want to do lessons but there still is no plan like I feel like we keep talking about all these things but there's no set please I just bring it up just to get like more information for myself and then but it's the same information that we gave you last time so I don't feel like anything that we've said here has changed since the very first the last time was for youth

lessons this one's like a little bit different this is like more for adults and stuff I think for today we can approve the the tournament yeah and then maybe there's another League like I mean the guys that were here last week they have the softball league they're setting up a softball league I would imagine it's the same thing but they came to us here's our league here's what we want to

do here's the field we want to use the times we want to use it and then we say you know yes or no or question what do you want to do some of these pots have buildings that I've actually worried to buildings buildings that we have near these Puffs I'm not storage buildings they house did the brains of those lights and the last thing we want is a door to be

left unlocked and this to be done and then this damage just done and then all that goes away electrical sheds are not for storage a fire department will tell you that anyone will tell you that storage building is for storage and not all of our Parks have storage buildings so let me stress this in my opinion before you have any access to electrical wow the building I would entertain the box and the boxes

you know where you put in your box your box gets busted up you know what you put in it and the difference with the box and when the Box can be approved is if the box is not going to be approved to Mr Cross and it's going to be approved to Fall River pickleball League that missed across correct that's correct so that was where I think there is a little bit of this

may be confusion or disconnect because we can't give you a box to put at Kennedy Park well the point of it was if how many boxes are we going to put that down Mrs Jones that's why I mean that's why I said from the beginning on four chords yes I don't feel there's a need for that correct do I think there's a need for that when you you know if it's something that we didn't

have Nets on our courts absolutely but we are providing them right now so it I don't know what you know and and not for anything half of the like softball and baseball leagues have those because it isn't just the bases it's the bases it's everything they use to take care of the field it's everything that they need for that that's not something you're actively going to be bringing and going

but if you're just bringing paddles and balls or or I don't know what else you would need for that but that's not that is something that you would very much just bring to and fro because let's say you have that and then someone else is like hey I also want to do a pickleball League next thing you know we have five or six different but like she just said

we can't say yes to everyone but then we can't only just say yes to you so that's it's just opening a can of worms that I genuinely think is just a big mistake just so you guys know the only things I put in there um I have pickleball Nets um so I've picked walnuts that I put in there um I have a board that I use for Organization for when people are playing

uh I got like 100 Balls with like two Hoppers um of course the pickleball Pals and other stuff like that um

there's nothing that you said that is something that you couldn't bring with you if you had to so that's the part where I understand but I I just like I said and I don't my mine will never change on that I don't think that the it's not just me that like there's obviously a whole board it's also just nice to have it there in case I can't make it there are certain days that

other people have access to that stuff that they want to use it too but that's the thing that would only be there for your days nope if you have a box you're only using it the day that you have permitted other than I'm correct if you are just going there on a random Wednesday and you do not have a permit that box should not even be opened that's what we're saying if you want to

use that box every time you're there if you don't have a permit that day you should not be using that box okay so that's why I'm saying the Box truly doesn't make sense if that's something that at any given time if someone wants to get something thing out of it they can it would only be used for the days that you have that leak same thing if someone is playing baseball at Kennedy

Park and it's just a regular day they're not one-man show either who can't be a one-man show right supplies to get them there you can't be a one-man show because if you're a one-man show the day the one man can't play the banjo there's no show done and the discussion you don't need the balls there but you have to have someone else who you carry 100 Balls and your partner

carries 100 Balls and at any given time one of you are there because in all reality how these leads work is at any given time someone is there to supervise the group and is in charge to make sure the group is obeying the rules to make sure something's going on this isn't Harry Carey you just go because I pull the permit you know and that's that's the fear that a lot of people have with

Park permits and things happening in their Parks because they don't wanted to get out of control so I think I think what we have addressed tonight with the tournament I think like I said I I am 100 against any of our electrical buildings yeah no so if I was being honest that came from someone at City Hall saying um and I won't mention names but basically coming up with the idea like

hey this is here why don't they we just let them use that I expressed to this person that that is not what it is for and obviously that information from whoever the person who told me has gone around but that is something that was brought to me by someone in City Hall and I said absolutely not it's like that is not what that's for yeah I had other people bring it up to me from doing

League Soccer baseball league and stuff like that saying that they use the storage sheds and stuff that were on the fields over there too but that's they're short said because they have the tractors and the the things that make everything flat and all that good stuff they are technically not supposed to have any Plies in those electrical buildings because if something should happen and

yeah with the electrical for uh it's separate like that what what I'm talking it's not it's not for that it doesn't house um the only last question I had is um if I want to use a quartz throughout the winter um is there a problem with that right yeah yeah when I seen this email the Nets are coming down Halloween okay the gates are getting locked sorry there is no absolutely no way I've already

spoke to the mayor we're not paying for overtime we're not paying any of our guys to maintain these cards in the winter months okay so if you want to play if you want to play your pickle okay the Nets are going to come down I would not recommend playing because and I know in your email said that you have volunteers that would clean the courts and everything I would not recommend that because you damage our courts

you're gonna have to answer to us okay because our guys are not going in the mirror we said we're not putting any of our Manpower on them courts the parks are closed in the winter months okay them calls are closed so if you want to play Pickleball year-round I suggest you go to a private club okay the tax payers and we have to I mean respect the taxpayers down

so if you came here not with the pickleball question in December we're going to kindly ask you to go home no we can come with them no but like we if like it's not locked so obviously if you wanted to go there we're not giving you permission however if you wanted to there's nothing stopping you however there will be nothing that this board or anyone from the city would be doing to

those fields to make sure it is enough for you to play okay and then Joey said if something happens you got to deal with him okay okay I think that should be it the other the rest of the courts in the city are close to right so it's not just yeah but I don't think that there are locks on all of them no like all the tennis courts that's not a thing the reason we

locked Bicentennial was so I have to block the gates so they didn't lock their dogs in there I had to get it so that we could not have the dogs go in most of our baseball fields don't have dates because people lock their dogs in there so they don't have to chase them through the pox they let the dog run free but that's all well and good but when the dog goes to

the bathroom in the Outfield now the kid comes in at five o'clock and plays baseball and they didn't pick up after the dorms so we have a loose poop we have a lot of issues with that but so we don't have dates on a lot of our facilities yeah but as I understand all of our tennis nets come down everything comes down before Halloween so and we go that last week we go right

up into the end because after that the weather is not something that cooperates and what are we going to do oh it's going to be nice well that's all right that's when you bring your portable Nets and I had mentioned that to you because when we're going to get a blizzard what do I do to send 10 guys around to stop taking down every net in the city no these are seasonal courts

they end on November you know I take them down so there's no damage no vandalism no whatever to those Nets and they'll disappear everything gets put away I just wanted it to be clear that it wasn't not just the pickleball yeah yeah no it's everything that was it that's all I already got complaint I got concerns other complaints last year from some people that would walk their dogs

in a park tonight oh well there used to be barrels here and I asked we take the barrels in too because we're not going to have barrels out in the middle of the parks at the main corners but we're not going to have them throughout the pot because if there's a blizzard our guys are not getting to them we don't have the same right yeah yeah so I mean around the state Pond is

10 12 barrels whatever that's where the barrel the activity is going to be I just asked this question I'm like I'm very new to all this stuff so this is the reason why I asked these questions so I don't want to be a hassle or anything like that I just I like to know it's just so I don't get in trouble for anything what what is unfortunate is you have a lot of people probably in your

league that trip to you and want you to bring it here and you end up being the guy that takes the beat yeah also yeah right I mean I mean people have to understand and the sooner that they understand these uh public courts number one these are seasonal cause number two so because you want to put on your pocket and your mittens and go play Pickleball that's not our problem

you know yeah it shouldn't be but that's why it's nice because I can bring this back to everybody right after it so what happens is when we leave up that net we're almost condoning it so with that I don't know about you but I've fallen a few times where you don't even know it's icy and you guys go oh let's go play Pickleball now you're going to be playing pickleball and you

need your ice skates so done can I assure can I ask you an honest question if you can be honest oh here we go the people out of chirping to you the most are they actually for real rights or are they from barringtons because I don't care what they have no it's most it's most important because you know something let them go to their own oh no I told them I'm building jobs

but I also feel like if they have concerns they should come here and voice it themselves because all of the chirping year get if you would understand like the frustration the chirping that we get from the other side of where people are complaining that's the frustration I have because I I feel like it and I've said this since the beginning I feel like this is your field and you have to ask us permission for it

and it's but that's but that's truly how it feels because it's at the point where the only person that I hear complaining about are the only people that people are complaining about are the individuals in your group and then you guys are coming basically saying all of the new upgrades or whatever else additional that you want and it's at the point where it's like this is basically

yours and we're just here to say yes or no and it's it's at the point where I'm like this is just it's too much just go there play Pickleball call it a day like it shouldn't be that big a video stuff in your car strap it to the top of the Camaro I don't care what you got to do but just bring it there call it a day like this this is too much fancy it just

makes it easy because everybody just asked me about this stuff and I usually come here and then tell everybody to come see us all right okay I just I felt like you guys if you guys could take less bugging and I just come here

every that's correct the answer is because it is not a private club if you want storage and a locker with your name on it you go to the YMCA and you pay a fee and you get your lockup this this public courts I mean realistic I think about the event that I have every summer it's an annual event obviously it's one time I run to U-Haul I put everything in there and

when I'm done I take it all off they wouldn't it be great if I had a storage unit convenience but this is what I'm saying convenience comes when you belong to a private club when you are utilizing a public facility you don't get that private convenience and I think that's what you're getting most of you are complaints about well it would be easier if we could do this well it would be

nicer if we could do this what would be nice if we could do it everywhere to be honest with you is just go I'd just go and buy what all the other established pickleball places I've done in there and they have very small communities they're not big cities uh like Bristol this is not that big I was gonna say bristle's not big not compared to Fall River yes comparison of size definitely and

we're like right here in the midst of whatever Bristol Bristol Bristol got one yeah has Bristol got a pickle car yeah yeah so that's why they still come to power women play though right well they play in Bristol but I just immunity here we're still that we're that I'm trying to use this and I just think that sometimes that's how it's coming across and that's why it's okay becoming a little bit I gotcha

a little more tension then too all right but they're not like pickles anymore so we can approve it we approved it a tournament already that's it that's it we're done thank you that's it we have we have all the items spring anything else I think Nancy if there's any other be here next month no Nancy if there's any other questions he has is there a reason we can't just answer via email versus him having to

come all the way here well you wanted a tournament anymore well no besides the tournament but like I'm saying like if he has a question about stuff I feel like if there's just or if he's like hey I have this many people in my league he doesn't have to come back to tell us he can just send it numerous conversations with Mr Crossing that you people who haven't laughed and answered many a question about those

type of things I can't do I don't want to waste you guys time with anything I'm just and just so to let the boy know Nancy does share me puts me in part of all the emails the back and forth and so I'll testify she does well he still wants to come so okay but we're going to answer it right now that much that's great I mean don't get me wrong I

love seeing you guys the lies you tell all right all right

Merry Christmas what you'll be here next month

next month I guarantee we get a call by Administration tomorrow it is what it is all right Adam H Adam H uh fun stuff I know requesting the city clerk regarding information for the city council from the park board for Davis Park Meridian Street and a letter slash petition sent to the board from residents of that area

it's because they might be all the I might be the questions you have what I have included in your packet is the letter and I have sent that via email to everyone that we sent to the city council saying that um we contacted Public Safety departments whatever and even this it says based on the information from the responses the board received it was determined that they do not feel at this

time it would be in the park Department's best interest to permit out Davis Park as their safety issues with the apparatus not having proper access in and out of the properties I've also included in your packet a short email that we sent them along with a response from the fire department and the city engineer now these date back to March because that was when we first went before the council and they asked

us why don't we permit Al Davis Field and we said there were issues we didn't think that it was there safety concerns there was access concerns so this board asked for us to send it out we did so they while they're saying um it's not impossible to do something there that it would require a lot of work you know access roads in and out it can't just be what these ladies had come

before and said if that is I think a fire lane or whatever I mean Parks have evolved over the time from what the deed said and what what the property is but we do have passive recreation parks which means we don't put things in them but people are allowed to go there and we don't stop them from going there but we don't want them going there at midnight and we don't want them running

cars in and out of there so and that's pretty much what these ladies came before us and said listen we're not stopping anybody from walking back there doing whatever they have to do use in the park just as a point of information what I have to send to the city council is as you know we had to do playground um we had a playground inspector come in well I'm going to send the playground

inspection report to the council which pretty much says it doesn't have Aba compliance playground equipment had to be removed because it doesn't meet regulation now when you stop playing with things now you create a disturbance just like when your house is not handicapped accessible but you add an addition now you're subject to all the new regulations that happen so you have a a petition signed by this

group so the playground inspector said it's very secluded very difficult to have ADA compliance there any recommended that at all be removed because in today's Society or to these standards you don't go 20 feet up on a slide anymore so I had to remove basically all that equipment that's there so right now there is nothing in Davis Park besides the lodge open area what and that backs up and all that stuff right which

is we leave it there but Eva came back to myself or the pockboard promoting these things happening at Davis Park I don't know where it came from it did not come from me I because in my opinion as the Box director I feel we have far more Parks utilized by a substantial amount of people in different neighborhoods that I can name you probably need over five hundred thousand dollars of improvements we don't have play

equipment at Columbus we don't have which is Bedford Street Beatty Street completely you know the father's uh Park South abacore we don't have Abbott Court needs a new playground every Park needs fencing if they want to give me money for POC improvements I I don't want to disappoint anybody but Davis is not going to be the one on the top of my list because it's not used by a ton of people

and I think they like the passiveness of it it's we have no more passive Recreation areas and that's I don't know where it's coming from that these this pot cannot be accessed it doesn't mean handicap accessibility it can be accessed by anyone on foot you have to park on Meridian Street and walk up well there's no parking on Meridian Street they took away the parking on Meridian Street when they made Meridian

Street when they repaved it and made it the kind of Street it is that's not our fault that's not anything we had anything to do with and personally we have the documentation it isn't a report but it is something the police department never responded but I do know that years ago I'm 99 sure that it was the police department that asked that we put that gate there and when we put the gate there it wasn't

wide enough they were going around the gate and we had to add violets to the gate so I want to know where this is coming from that all of a sudden Davis Park is up on the radar again and then it's saying that I'm the one spearheading the activity well just uh just to answer about the police department the city uh the higher reps in the police department may not responded via

email or a report but at that March meeting if the individual is right here want to watch that meeting what took place when myself and commissioner Riga was there with the rest of uh well yourself and Charlie and everything and because it was supposed to be a dual meeting but we only had two of us there and I thought that's and it was brought up about permitting it out and everything the police

officers were also there for an agenda item about Union stuff and there was probably at least 40 to 50 police officers in that audience that the next day when they brought up them Council has brought up the use of Davis playground why it wasn't being permitted then police officers contacted me saying we hope you do not put that out there that is a safety concern so maybe they want to talk to the police department

before they saw it they really should certain amounts off I have a stack of police reports from what we have had to be part of it just to keep the neighborhood safe yeah I think one needs to be honest I think that you know what the thing that I get a little bit upset about is that it's like if you want to spearhead the activity and happening there then

don't make us the bad guys like we we don't want it to happen well we've lived the experience we've been here when the neighbors called we've I've been here when the police asked for those things to go there did something change that I don't know about because again when I go for Budget items I'm told they they can get their money from someplace else we don't need to appropriate funding additional funding

whatever it was taken up my requests would take it out but I don't even have any money one of these ladies called me she's like I hear this lights going in and this I go you're hearing more than me because we have no idea we have no idea of a plan I mean and I mean we can make this official I have no idea of a plan for Davis this board has no idea of a plan

for Davis and if there is a plan for Davis I really think that it's awesome even in favor of I mean we have tons of work to be done in Lafayette Park tons of work to be done in all all these major why are we going today I was at the city council meeting the council and well we she was asking why are we back on the agenda oh yeah yeah no the

last letter I sent to the council but we all approved to have me signed um I've been wanting this information and I want to see the report oh I want to see reports I want to see the studies I want to see all who motioned that on the city council it was commission I mean uh Council Kilby Council Pereira and Council of Washington this all started because there's so many teams and schools are getting built they

have the soccer teams and the baseball teams and all kinds of things they don't have no parks to play in and this is where this came in well guess what that open the school actually if you really this is where this come in at a city council meeting it was a March meeting but if you really wanna the nail the top why they asked about Davis playground is because the semi-pro football team the Titans were looking

for land to practice Okay so we all know I love to play Devil's Advocate yep so I know that there was conversation that you were saying that they're saying we can't we it's a area that we don't want them to use and all that good stuff is that gate closed 24 7.

yes is there a reason that gate is closed it's just so that it's just so that you can't drive through correct there's no reason but if you wanted to go have a picnic that's right you would walk Okay so in my eyes this is a city park it was donated to be a city park but as of right now it cannot be used correctly as a city park so at what point do we have

the conversation of selling it or getting rid of it to the point where it's not our the deed everything family States yep that piece of property is to remain for recreational or educational purposes or reverts back to the surviving members of the family okay so at what point do we have the conversation if we are not going to use this I think I'll tell you the truth I think it would be a great

thing for why why don't we open up we keep everyone out of the adjacent Water Department property yet there's all kinds of trails that go through there why don't they park on the other side of the water department why is it going to be that the parking has to be on this side of the pot you want to open up the pot open up the Water Department property too make it a walk-in Trail or

do whatever you got to do why is it always the pocket pocket but what I'm saying is if it's it can be used it is a walking time it's in the middle of the neighborhood and there's zero parking so that's what I'm saying it is not a a functioning Park if you cannot at least park somewhere pun intended well you pocket not well maybe you can't park maybe they go to redesign Meridian

Street make it a one-way and put pocket on on the street maybe it's not the problem of the pot Department no maybe the city council ought to address why is that a two-way street and where did the pocket go because they used to be able to park on Meridian Street so who's the professor that came up with making Meridian Street a two-way with no pocket with a pot there then no I I 100 agree

the point is this I'm sick and tired of Nancy Smith's name getting tossed around to these committees and these people saying she's the one you want to do it do it keep my name out of your mouth because I'm gonna come out and tell people it's not me this is who it is it wasn't me Nancy because I want to get you mad the whole group was ready to come out and Lynch me

and I had nothing to do with the thing okay so I'm just saying and then I'm and you can ask the ladies if that's what they were told I'm sitting here and I'm listening to what you guys are all saying I am understanding that you are you have mentioned that people feel uneasy or you guys feel uneasy if there's anybody that's going back there that you don't know because you want to

make sure that it's being used by the people in your neighborhood at the end of the day it isn't a I don't want to sound like a it's not a private part it's not a private park so if somebody's back there they have every opportunity every every possible right whatever they want to do back there they can during before dark if someone's back there doing something you call the police and obviously the police handle it

and I unders I I absolutely understand your frustrations because it is in the middle of a neighborhood but at the the energy that I was getting when you even were mentioning oh if the gates open when we get home we feel unsafe there are parks everywhere I walk the Waterfront there's certain times of night I don't go because it's not safe so I understand it's closer to your house and and I I feel for you because

obviously I don't live in the middle of a neighborhood is that the gate was closed and you don't know what's going on correct it's kind of frustrating I think the gate was put the base cut on a request from the Fall River Police okay there was never a gate there it was accessible for everyone because they were determined that it would be best for that the sign on the gate that

says Park closed from don't put us I had to change it because but it should save them it should say dusk again because that was why is that pot closed that dust the park ordinances say 9 pm but because that Park was where it was we did say dusk Park ordinance is safe park closes 9 pm and that thing says Park is closed between 9 pm and 6 A.M that's what the sign says Park closed

between 9 00 p.m and 6 a.m unless with written permission from the board of pot Commissioners which means and Joey and I said this what about like a little a school field trip or something that would be an afternoon and these kids go up there and they have play kickball or played whatever that Park is available for that that type of we used to permit that pocket I'll be 100 honest with you to people from

People Incorporated because it gave them they walked the kids up The Path and they had a better containment of the children and adults or whatever that they had to keep an eye on it was off the road it wasn't anything where they could go so that's to be honest with you when we permitted that out we permitted that out to People Incorporated then we started permitting it out to North Park Little League

had a little bit of concern because they were driving in and out that we were supposed to have one car drive in bring the stuff back then come back out and the kids could all walk in they they had access to park in the pigeon Club across the way even and then they would leave in a mess in the pigeon club's parking lot and the pigeon Club people said no more this park has a

very long history it isn't just oh let's open it up I'm not saying that we should just open it up but at the point where because I can't just quote unquote open it up why was meridians was Meridian did it ever have parking on the street or did it never happened I can tell you when you go to build something I'm already in street or when you go before the planning board to change your

property the first thing they are going to tell you as people who are going to reside there is you have to make sure you have X amount of spaces for off-spree parking because because of the roads but what would happen if that road were I mean it's a long road to change it just for Davis Park because I really don't think this I don't know whether I don't know where this interest is coming

from I I don't think there's that many people interested in using Davis Park I have not gotten a request for Davis Park and I can't tell you how many years people just if they're going to walk there they use it if they we had to stop it with the traffic with the thing based on what the police department had said but I have not had a request for Davis Park so I don't even know where this

interest of Davis Park needs to be a park the playground guy is saying I do not recommend putting playground equipment back there it's secluded it's it's subject of vandalism but that's what I'm saying if if the person who would be quote unquote building a playground there is suggesting that we don't put a playground there it is a passive Recreation Area that's called just go for a walk go for a walk and

look at the birds the picnics it's a beautiful area sure I just feel like there's like there's no parking there's no like people that are still in nature walks in or anything that's it and that's what I said about the water department opened part of their property and they do you know the parkings on the other side and you Trail yourself through you come out and it's like an epiphany beautiful how

do you get to the through the other side like what road I don't know I didn't go for a hike um question and I might regret asking you this which um never mind well you ladies would like to see it continue the way it is right now it needs to stay the way it is intended purposes in honor of that family what is yeah what is it is for a neighborhood playground

because it did not have Public Access when it's the content new purpose was for a neighborhood playground I'm willing to bet that there weren't all of those houses in front of it correct there's been a lot more buildings since that piece of property houses that abut the playground they were put in before the park before the land was given yeah because otherwise that now someone I

know is going to get the wrong idea when I say this but I'm going to speak to the honest truth okay at least when you talk to me you don't have to worry about walking out with a knife in your back if they were able to all those people who are but the playground that would have been part of their property but the city had said no it's too close to the Watershed and these

people were so decent enough which is hard to find to give this to the city for the neighborhood to come in and have a place for their kids to go play because let's face it we're off the beaten path right there's nothing close so if your kid wants to go down the street and play where's he going well no what Amber is saying is there's nothing there to film to play on now because now there's

literally nothing there so that's why we put anything back it's between that and they're not even recommending we put anything back and I'll be honest with you when I mentioned something to the water department what you're saying is exactly what they said it's too close to the Watershed it is for us to put Trails or for us to put anything like that so I all of those houses all of those problems were

measured in everything they had to be x amount of distance away from the watershed area away from any native burial grounds in the back there in the woods and everything

I think we have 29 parks and playgrounds why in God's name are we going to put hundreds of thousands of dollars into David's place but have we actually ever have we even seen a plan or uh or anything besides hearsay because until then I feel like this is a move point no no no it's not a new point you have three comments who told you that it's not accessible uh I'm gonna be presenting all this because

this is what the council has asked for yeah you know they they want to know no I I saw all of that but in my eyes like I think then they're only asking because when we sent the letter there wasn't any evidentiary proof with it so that's why they're questioning it which is it right no no this we should all be working together they're saying that this should be a part I think it's

underutilized right is what you are saying which I'm I don't I'm I'm not disagreeing with it because I think it is correct there's a whole laundry list of reasons why it is where it is it's been this way for a long time and there are other pressing matters yes that should take priority over the park on you know Davis Park and one of them I mentioned that well the gate's locked they are not

going to tell me that Gate's not been unlocked today no the gate is locked because of the police bomb and that it says the timing that and you really want to know why my biggest fear is if that gate opens up we got City down at the bottom of Kennedy Park we got quicker Shan River Trail you know what's going to happen to that neighborhood if all the homeless find out about that area guess what you

ain't getting them out of there all right I feel like we need to tread lightly with what we'll say here number one um even though it was donated as a neighborhood park it is still a city park that anyone can go to so if you're homeless or if you're not not saying that it's right but if it's a city park so if they want to go there we can't say

that they can't they can't say that I'm not saying that but what I'm saying I'm not saying that that's like me inviting the home but I'm not I'm just saying we need to tread lightly because at the end of the day even though it was the intent to be a neighborhood park it is still at the end of the day a city Party someone could say Kennedy Park is a neighborhood someone could say Maplewood

Park is a neighborhood pot because it's in their neighborhood they're not making people show IDs at the gate do you live yeah no you can't come in well there is no action really to be taken in on this either right this is a conversation that's been had we appreciate you guys coming down and letting us know because hurt is going to happen there we would appreciate as a neighborhood being

notified not just hearing it on television that this is what you want to do yeah this is what we're doing there's nothing going on and nothing's being done so this is saying we both 100 with what she's saying instead of what politicians are saying and this is what's going on sure saying oh trust me you know I don't have trust and that's what I told the city council on the phone I don't have trust

in anybody right now and people can actually access that clock by walking too yeah and I mean versus could we put a sidewalk

because I don't know where all your properties are do you have fencing along the entire line of each one of your property is about from Eileen to that chair away from the world yes

oh we have issues at other Parks when it comes to that so I can only imagine that's the city okay yes but as of now we're not aware of any plan no that's what I'm saying we don't have no budget no nothing so that's why I'm saying it's a moot point because they don't they haven't physically like I understand that you're saying the city council or whoever was saying oh pickleball golf whatever the heck one of

you mentioned but until we in until we have a paper that says this is what they wanted you these are the funds they're allocated it's too late so that's what these people are saying once you have that paper in front of you it's a done deal and we want to stop that paper from happening without our input and I understand that listen I've I've been involved with these neighbors

for a number of years that has been good it's been bad it's been ugly it's been I understand and I completely understand that point of I don't want to hear why is this not this why is this not this why don't you come to us before you make it public information and that's what Eileen is saying I'm gonna say I came and made it public information unlike you I came and made

my concerns public information first and that's why they wanted to come to you so I completely understand it but I also understand that by the time there is a plan in place the door has already shut and myself knowing what I know about other parks and playgrounds I can't see worrying about who's using Davis Park and who's not using Davis Park when you have other parks with hundreds of kids

neighborhood kids just the same just the same same but we don't have money to put that playground there or we don't have that money to put I'm gonna bet that Meridian Street most kids on Meridian Street probably have a swing set in their backyard I mean like really good oh yeah you're okay wrong and I'm not trying to be well there's a school so if we're worried about the kids

having a playground or a place to play or there's ball fields there there's soccer fields there there's playgrounds there maybe we need to open up that school so the neighbors why do we need a playground 500 yards from another playground that's already there while I'm not putting a playground in another location that there is no playground you know I have a car about Sunset Hill all

you know all three deck of properties three deck of properties don't always have a swing set in the backyard I think a lot of them and I'm not being a you know I'm trying to be a jerk or anything but I think Meridian Street is single family homes you want to put a swing set in your backyard you don't need to ask the landlord you go to the store you buy the

swing set you put it up I mean I understand the frustration I understand we have bad documentation now I think what these ladies are looking for from us is we don't have a plan and if we see a plan we will notify the neighborhood I think that's what these ladies absolutely I'm coming to us for like I think they feel like from what this young lady saying I don't trust what's going on at the city

council can I trust what's going on here at the pot board because I'm hoping that you guys will since you have jurisdiction over that will come to our defense and say nothing's happening there until the neighborhood is involved and I think that's what they're looking for from us now and and like I said my only concern with that was I didn't like the way it was all presented because misinformation

was getting out and not only the sport but primarily myself was the one that oh she knows what's going on over there and she's not telling us that's not the case most times this board is the last one to know what exactly is going to happen I want you to know when I asked that City councilor that night of the meeting if he wanted to go door to door

I said I'll go door-to-door I did it at my job I'll go door-to-door and he declined you know I've been at this 32 years and it seems every time it comes right before an election somebody has to come up with a brainstorm of what to present to make it new and exciting to

and I'm in good standing with whoever I am a constituent however when you do something that goes beyond that and you don't like me I have an empty attitude and my neighbors have a NIMBY attitude no my name is still happening in the attitude I don't have an in the attitude I can have an attitude right I think but you know we go back and forth for 32 years with the board

that they're telling me we can't meet with and then I find because I'm not computer savvy I don't even have a computer you can go online and book an appointment with the passport so I said to one of my neighbors do you know how to use that could we go because they're telling us we're not willing to go to work at that point meetings are public and forums with citizen input up every time and if you

want to be placed on the agenda all it takes is an email or a phone call if you call the office and said I don't have an email but I would like to address your pockboard I would certainly accommodate you and have you come in and say such and such in that packet wants to address them and such and such didn't happen I could not even get the information as

to when you people were meeting it was by one of my neighbors who said this was you know she could they could go online and fill out the necessary but at any way I think we've I think we've talked about Davis Park enough I think what these ladies want is just assurance that if anything we hear anything that we will well they should make their presence known to the city

council too I go to the city council meeting oh yeah we I have several times I'm not sure this this packet that we're sending will be going today I believe it's next Tuesday because they didn't have her this week but uh but just uh so we'll be able to communicate this conversation back with a letter well I'm sending a letter to this stating what we're not going to say that we met with them because what it

was you know together before then but we're going to give them the information and in that letter I said if you need any additional information or need us to appear before the council please let us know so I'm sure we'll hear back one way or another especially after my little did I okay and the other thing is just to say it too is since I've been on here that was one of my biggest things there

I see when we took over the quickest River Trail I still say you have all these counselors and all these groups that always come up oh we should get this Lane we should make this a pot we should make this a trail why don't you have a pot board member on them planning boards planning stages of that because eventually we're going to take it over I'm trying to make more work for us no

but it's it's ridiculous if you're gonna have us take it over and be the governing body additional money that's my concern so now you have your your pocket everybody has these brilliant ideas but nobody has Solutions afterwards you're just the dot board all right well I make a motion um to send everything to the city council that you're already planning on doing so we're sending it and and if you want to

say if we do hear anything we will notify it yes absolutely the residents yeah I would even I would even inform them if they want to since we all have our Quorum now if they would like to have a joint meeting like we were supposed to do in modules I won't get covered this time I promise up to them um I think my suggestion to these ladies is to do exactly they have

citizen input at the council meetings the same as they have at our meetings even if you don't want to all go elect the spokesman have them speak to them because I'm sure once we send this information to them it's now going to be an agenda item again and it will come up at a public meeting if I hear about it I can contact you and let you know what meaning they are going to have it or

where there's a an item because truly I think the neighbors should be involved in that I mean that whether just to offer your opinion or whatever I think that you should be involved in the discussion but so if I hear of a council meeting or when I know that they are going to discuss the status Park item the information we're sending I can let you know that it's on their agenda if you'd

like them thank you thank you you're welcome so um you're the second BJ about letting them know yes yeah so commissioner Burns made that motion seconded by Commissioner of McDonald all in favor say aye aye thank you ladies thank you thank you thank you item I bid tabulations for the volleyball court project at Kennedy Park Bay Street um just so I'm gonna make this short and sweet the volleyball

um that's the Ecuadorian volleyball I believe the contract had 215 000 you can see those bids came in above that that always doesn't make it um I think one was 217 the little bit of the question that I had and I sent the email I believe I include that in the packet as well the alternate bid whatever the ultimate was has it's very um outrageous yeah different from the other two prices yeah and it didn't come

with a letter from the architect as it normally does with a recommendation I put that in your packet so that you would know it happened um I'm not sure if you want to just table the information to the next meeting and wait for a letter from the architect as to what is going on I did send emails and tried to contact people all week to see if I could get any more information but no

one got back to me so I I have a question is there like a blueprint or plan of what it will look like there is a plan that went out I got them the day of the bid opening okay so I can scan that plan but it's really not a lot of information I can forward it to you though I didn't know if what this price like included oh this price

so that you know does not include an expansion of the parking lot which I addressed exactly what I was going to ask because if that and that's exactly what I said in my first email if before this bid is awarded I believe there should be a change order to include the expansion of the parking lot yes I did not receive a response on that I was going to say I personally

will not approve this if they don't do that not even because we're already having issues across the street what makes us think it's going to be any different if not worse but that that's very popular that probably and you volleyball with the pickleball it'll be very so I wanted to get the board the information that I had um I don't think you have enough information to reward anything anyway so

um you can table that information if you so choose make a motion of table let's go to the table Mission Arrigo second by me second so Burns yeah it's cold in here all right so cold out of nowhere commissioner uh inquiries all right what were we going to talk about before I know the software oh yes so myself and Nancy went there last week when the keys were turned in uh

we went in checked they had still a lot of equipment and everything by contacting uh the softball team two they stated that I talked to Mr Ferrera and he had said that they had gave him a set of keys where she turned over to the Smith and this Divine had turned over a set of keys we went there uh the only thing that myself and Nancy had met when we said that when we had

the keys all redone and we're going to have them stamped in that the only thing is the police looked like there was a metal door that has a lock that that's a different key then coping that there was another key it was like amazing I thought I had a lot of keys I'm like why do we have this many keys for this building so when we do it we've already told them if they want

the softball he's going to have to pay for this then if they're going to want all these kind of walks right we're going to probably do the same type of lock on everything it was like literally 19.

to open the metal steel door that was added on like a steel plate take the padlock off then you had to open another door open that up man and then you win when you open that up when you open it to the right was the bathroom did it smell weird and then I opened another left another another one to get into the concession stands the first door was that the original

door or did they like well that was a steel plate it was a steel plate bolted off of the building but is that something we put in or is that something they added um the odd dog could have rotted they may have over the years I mean do my little league has been there for a number of years so we allow them to do different things in the building I'm not sure like

that I think what they did was they put those steel doors there as more security so to speak um I did have a conversation with them um because they wanted the softball people wanted to get into that building and I said once we have the liability insurance policy with the city as an additional insured then I can give them those keys because they wanted like before you change the

locks when we get those keys but I told them I don't know how many more sets of keys are out so whatever you're putting in there you're putting in there at your own so then again today uh at lunchtime myself Miss Smith and Mr Hathaway to city building inspector went there he checked it all off and said that's cable pulling that and he has faith that uh Mr Ferrer is a contractor

by trade and I that he has the help that will be able to do any improvements and they'll have to go through him or the Border Healthcare building to get all their licenses and everything to do whatever type of work they're going to need they are working on the fields right now um um so I don't know if they'll I'll have an update next meeting for you but right now they are working on it they're not

going to officially open their league but they may practice so I told them to send in dates and times um they're also going to just have to send in the regular paperwork but I will I think I'm more concerned about spring than I am about right now right now you know they're getting their feet wet doing whatever they need to do to get their stuff together because like we said come November where we

shut down yeah and then the electric was all shut down they had to me to shut off and the water was all shut off and I said there was nothing wrong in there but there was a flood in there because you could tell why round level that it was like up the hill there I think probably with the Rings yeah those heavy storms and usually on the left-hand side that's one of the

Department of property if them coverts are not cleaned out right and it the rain these storms that we get a lot that all floods that whole if you ever see that field The Field's on the wall So Good Times other than that business as usual okay yeah I do get any attend that particularly if we can only have not more than three uh I mean not more than two because three becomes

important so aware of this guys um any other that's it okay motion to adjourn motion to adjourn second by commissioner I've made through adjourn uh commissioner Rigo seconded by commissioner Burns all in favor say aye aye