The Fall River Conservation Commission held a public meeting on Tuesday, April 12, 2022, at 5:30 PM at One Government Center. The primary item of business was a request for a partial certificate of compliance for the Contractors Landing LLC project at Griffin Street (Assessor's Map D-27-0014), specifically for one of the four already constructed buildings. This request aimed to allow the sale of the building while the developer remained responsible for completing site work and constructing a fifth planned building. During the discussion, Commissioner Jim Cusick and Planning representative Caitlin Young raised concerns about site conditions. Young noted sedimentation running from the fifth building site and the absence of required "no dumping" signage. John, representing Contractors Landing LLC, confirmed that signage would be installed and Ken Malacone, also representing the developer, addressed the sedimentation issue, stating that loam would be brought in during the spring to establish new grades between houses. The commission also discussed the long-term maintenance of the common areas, including the gully and swale behind the stone walls, which will be managed by a homeowners' association once all properties are transferred. Historical water flow and the Laurel Brook watershed were also discussed. Following the discussion, a motion was made to approve the partial certificate of compliance, contingent on the installation of wetland and "no dumping" signage and reinforced silt fencing. The motion was seconded and passed by a roll call vote, though the specific vote count was not stated. The applicants thanked the commission for their consideration.
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all right uh welcome to fall river conservation commission meeting a public meeting on tuesday april 12 2022 at 5 30 in a fifth floor planning conference room uh one government center uh pursuant to open meeting laws or any person we make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium detainers are therefore advised that such recordings or transmissions are
0:22being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present are deemed knowledge and permissible uh roll call chris boyle here james hornsby paul admiral jim cusick john brandt uh also we have tonight kate caitlin young from planning gary light from for tv and we're missing louis ferreira uh first in the business uh is uh one request for certificate of compliance sc-24-727 owner applications contractors landing llc
0:57project locations griffin street assessor's map is uh d-27-0014 filed by contractors landing llc requesting a partial certificate of compliance so can i speak mr chair sure so um just a little background on this site um it is um currently there are four constructed um structures buildings there's is to be a fifth correct and thus far units one two and three have been released from the order of conditions um because
1:35sales could not final sales could not take place until an order of condition was issued and now he is requesting the same thing which is a partial certificate of compliance to release just the struct that building itself from the order of conditions what that means is that you know because the construction of that last house still has to occur and all the additional site work finished grading blooming seeding has to
2:03occur so he would still be on the hook for that work but this would be released allowing the sale of that building and i went out on site and um i did notice just like one or two little things and i've been in touch with john about one being a little bit of sedimentation that's running down from the area where that fifth site is or where that fifth building is going
2:30to be constructed um it looks like there's some sand that is running down he and i have been in conversation about putting in some erosion sedimentation control to ensure that that isn't becoming a problem in the long run um and the other thing too is that per the order of conditions there's required no dumping signage that isn't out yet but he and i today spoke about language and
2:52getting the signs up there um you know as soon as possible is there anything you want to well we we had dep sites but with snow and moving them around in construction like the third time we put them up and it was brought to our attention that they weren't up within an hour we had them up there i had pictures so we had had another one made and plopped it
3:12right up there so that it was visible uh we're gonna do two two sides as like caitlin stated for the no dumping so we i've got the verbiage emailed me i'll set one on either end of the property one at the end of evelyn's way or whatever i think per the order of conditions there's supposed to be one at the back of each unit so you may need four okay yeah just so you're aware so
3:35we'll make five for the fifth one for the exactly just so it's just so when you come back for your final it's not a surprise yeah you send it right over to graphic signs and some stuff they'll do it up okay so does the board have any questions go ahead jim yeah did you um jim points me did you say that you had put the signs up there the dp
3:59so no did you say you would put up the signs that were part of our our conditions uh the dep signage or the or the verbiage for the no dumping the second verbiage for no dumping yeah those are not it's no no okay no i asked caitlyn what the exact verb is she wanted me to put on the side i got it now your voice is a little
4:23hard in my ears i just love it my ears are a little weak just coaching the girls though wow the i was there today and uh actually actually last night today um do fix the sentiment i didn't realize it was the fifth the fifth house until i came back and caitlin included me in um because it's an emergency you see and i couldn't get the map until this morning which was or actually yesterday morning but um
4:59the other thing that concerns me is that that whole area goes downhill to the what i would call the riprap the stonewall above that between several of the houses you've got the same kind of sand problem that you have on the road for witches road the building site for number five is there any way you can that sand was actually extra sand that was used in in the sand again that sand that's there
5:32was actually sand that was used in the construction process but again when we built the houses just like if you pulled out a driveway you'll see somewhat of an old sock uh sock fence right there by the edge we had a lot of water cut they used to come down and it would wash out because it was just at the time it was just a regular loan so a little will get washed
5:52out in no time so now that some of the grass and weeds have settled in a lot of that has stopped same thing with the houses which we see now in the spring we're going to leave you in between the houses my name is ken malacone i work with john in between the houses because it's a winter time what we're doing is spring is we're going to bring we're going to actually bring the lumen ah
6:13okay on the other side and you know once the grass kind of takes that'll kind of fine you're going to deal with that yeah absolutely okay new grades there yeah and the last question i have i think is who owns the in back of the stone walls or the rip rap and the so it's the gully is that your property where the uh where the swale is yeah yeah yeah that's actually owned by the
6:37association so that has to be taken care of by the association of the houses there is an association dues that each house pays for the for their own for their own plowing and also to take care of maintaining and clean that yes and it looks like it hasn't been maintained much but of course people have just moved in well that's a problem between that and the weight there are people just moving in so now this spring
7:02everything's breaking so whatever has to be cleaned out of there as we go we'll clean that we'll clean it we'll sort of give them a fresh start so they can start from 100 percent start from zero yeah the old the old catch basin was the size of this table these the old catch basin that used to catch the runoff coming off of evelyn's way was the size of this table and then if
7:21you look on evelyn's way you'll see 12 manholes there's chambers there that they use that's what they used to use until we put that rip-rap in okay then when you catch catch all the runoff so all of that runoff that's coming from evelyn's way is actually being diverted and caught into that there's also material underneath there with the three-quarter stone uh well the ten inch stone that's
7:42all on here the stone is only there it's just to hold down the the fabric so that it doesn't wash the fabric away and then everything washes away so it was it was a hundred times more and what we did was alleviate uh evelyn's way from a lot of that runoff it all goes through there now and this is what you're talking about is the area right at the end then incorrect yes where there's the
8:05bunch of looks like granite ships granite chips so believe it or not that's specified to be that side because we couldn't find it we found smaller and it wouldn't suffice we needed to get the big ten inch couldn't go with six to eight we had to go to ten well i'm just just and there's there's something underneath that there's a fabric there because if you just had stone water would wash through the stone and it
8:29would just erode underneath so you have to put a fabric yeah i'm just concerned because the urea is so looks like it's so volatile with water washing yeah a hundred times better what it was yeah well yeah i was there before anything was built the mill doesn't help who would have known having no gutters on it i mean it's and that runoff goes down into who's in charge uh to make sure that
9:03that's maintained is there somebody that's going to be looking into that once the people take ownership yes and raise property right right now right now it's us total till the fifth house gets transferred over once the tris fifth house transfers over and basically we have to meet with all the homeowners and they all know they they pay their dues they all know this one of the homeowners
9:20will then become the new president of the association and we have we have a gentleman that uh an excavator that kind of cleans everything out so basically what they'll do is sign a contract with him like when we turn it over we will sign they'll sign a contract maintenance and you will come clean it out like twice a year snow snow removal stuff like this landscape yeah because i've got a kid now that goes
9:42around cleaning it all up and yeah now that's something that they're going to sign into the contract yeah 100 yes they already know this we already so you guys they will be absorbing the cost forever and way also well we've already already absolutely yeah i mean as far as we're trying to go off the way yeah because what happened is everyone's weight had all those chambers yeah yeah
10:06i saw that yeah but that that was always a problem there was always a lot of flooding so what happened this alleviated basically took all the water that the people having on evelyn's right and divert and diverted it through this basically we alleviated everyone's weight and at our cost yeah but i mean that's the price of sight plane review you know sometimes you know they throw those things in there listen you want
10:25this no problem but here's what you're going to do and you know so you're going to give a little to get a little right so that's kind of how it works yeah you've got a significant amount i grew up in that area yeah so you've got i mean going back to the 60s you've got a significant amount of water that moves underneath that problem significant amount you're taking you know a lot don griffin from broadway
10:45you're taking it from the mill but prior to that like where the the duro addition is with the blue side that was wetland yep and the street springs used to flow right out of that so you've got a lot of warnings oh yeah but i'm talking even farther closer to center street there was all springs out there so you've got a tremendous amount of natural ground water flow out there so
11:06if you're able to manage all that then one thing folks don't realize like i'll have contractors come in and they'll go out on the back deck either have a cigarette i'll just have a break there's like 12 deer that run around a little bit uh yeah so i'm asking everybody you're really unbelievable they're all on the front lawn it's not that large of an area no not one of them them they're all they're
11:28like when you guys would show up in the morning they would all be out there and then you see them yeah they'd be amazingly like you know just did that game like oh yeah i don't know i saw them over the winter because across there's that other development yeah yeah yeah and
11:50this case it's the laurel brook that they're they're on and where is the brook in relation to the right in between both properties between the condos that were just built on our globe street the blue ones and this one the ones you can see across the way correct right literally right in the middle that's where i thought it was good and then and then it comes back up and there's a rear
12:14system that directs it in two different directions one direction goes to the pond on gold mills ave they used to feed the product those print works and the other weird diverts it to behind the new properties built on bay street and then it crosses under and goes to um is that short street just north of shore street yep that's the one where sends it towards cuss there's a pond on your left the
12:44other one sends it diagonally underneath sprague and bay and that sends it out to another mill site no that's the mill that's it's been for sale for a while because there's you could see it when you drive down there that there's a huge pond right there there there are two of them oh yeah yeah yeah when i blow mills though i think they stopped the water from flowing they may have it's been for years
13:13but there is a weird system back what is that stream originating folks pond oh i think they have a lot of light that's why it flows under uh bowling alley the park used to be a pond yeah there was a panic attack an education yeah right all righty so uh can i have a motion for a partial certificate of compliance uh with the uh conditions of uh signage for wetland and no dumping and
13:41reinforced silk fencing in the back so moved second second roll call vote thank you gentlemen thank you very much for your appreciation you're welcome for coming in okay i'll see you tomorrow finally you know kenny doing
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