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kby here Herrera ponti here Roso here Samson here president here puru to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may trans MIT this meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and not deemed acknowledged and permissible entertain a motion to open

the public open the public hearing second motion over public hearing has been made in seconded all in favor I any oppos motion carries item number one Peter Brown 170 last Street for the removal of curbing as follows on 17 last Street the existing parel is currently serviced by a n um I'm sorry existing opening right now is 19' 4 in curb to be removed is eight feet curb to be added is zero

combined opening proposed after alteration is 27 feet 4 in Madam clerk should we change that what's that curb to be removed is says 8 ft isn't it curp to be added no I'm sorry moving additional 8et I apologize the parle is currently serviced by a 19 fo4 in curb opening on last Street the applicant proposes to extend that existing opening by an additional 8 ft the total opening for the location will be 27t 4

in if approved and granted it should be conditional upon receiving site plan review approval prior to the start of work are there any proponents to this public hearing any proponents anyone in favor you want to come down please and state your name and address and why you're in favor of this project please you can sit at the table and speak into the microphone my name's Peter Browns I live at last Street uh you can

have a seat sir you like parking is tough up there really I have newly uhop just put one of those microphones next to you sir so we can hear you speak into the microphone thank you I have new Leaf uh Compassion Center across the street from me there's all tenaments around there I own a five family my tenaments come home and there's no place to park up there so right now I want to

widen my driveway and lengthen my driveway so I could get my tenants in there okay thank you very much con C2 so if you're able to do that this will accommodate all of your tenants yes yeah I'll I'll get a lot of cars off the street too so how many do you have trying to park on the street now there's probably uh maybe eight oh and if there's no parking in the front of my

house they're parking on South Main Street while they're parking down the bottom of last Street all right that's tough for my tenants some of them and you'll be able to take all of them off the street yes yep all right thank you with that I yield thank you thank you are there any other proponents to this public heing any other opponents seeing none are there any opponents to this public heing any

opponents seeing none we move on to item number two Bristol County Homes Incorporated 800 of Wall Street for the removal of curbing as follows thank the existing opening at 552 Bowen Street and Hick Street is 14 ft 8 in curb to be removed is 26 feet there's no curb to be added combined opening proposed after alteration is 40 ft 8 in the existing pel is currently serviced by a 14t 8 in curb opening on Bowen

Street the applicant proposes to create a new 26 foot opening on Hick Street the total opening of the location will be 40 feet 8 in the project has a complete site plan review are there any proponents to this public hearing hey we see one at the table please state your name and give us a reason for a proponent Roland patard president of Bristol County homes the owner of the property uh we applied for

a building permit to construct a uh duplex to family on this lot it did not need a variance that the lot was large enough uh for that we are we want to get two cars off of the street for each unit uh the parking lot on Hicks Street cannot be a double deep one behind the other because we were required to put a ground filtration system in to catch all of the

runoff from the roof and put it into the ground and we can't put a we can't put a parking spot over that chamber so we need to double wide it that's why it's uh TW that's why it's 26 ft of curb cut on Hick Street but there's already there was already a curb cut there we're just enlarg ing it slightly uh the amount of uh extra crib we're taken out of there

does not lose an extra spot in the street so we're actually taking a car off the street without uh reducing the number of cars that can be parked on the street this was approved by uh the site plan review committee and it was approved by uh the Traffic Division all right thank you very much thank you are there any other proponents any other proponents for this public hearing seeing none are there any

opponents to this public hearing any opponents seeing none we move on to item number three Tyler Carrero 116 gagman street for the remve of curbing as follows the existing at 116 gagnet street the existing opening is 15 feet 9 in curb to be removed is 8 feet there's no curb to be added combined opening proposed after alteration is 23t 9 in the exist pel is currently serviced by a 15' 9 in curb opening the applicant

proposes to extend that existing opening by an additional 8 ft the total opening for the location will be 23 9 in are there any proponents to this public hearing any proponents seeing none are there any opponents to this public hearing any opponents seeing none I entertain a motion the public hearing has been made and seconded all in favor I any opposed public hearing now

closed sign up for Citizens input time um Alexander syvia Silva sorry subject matter Silva School Pro uh position open the city counc open sorry you stay there it's okay my fault Al sorry you you could city council committee on finance will come to order the clerk will call the RO council is kadim yes Dion here Hart here Kilby here Perera Pony here propo here Samson here president CA here pursuing

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up Alexander Silva subject matter Sylvia School disposition have three minutes hello Alexander Silva 148 purchas stre president of the board of directors of the preservation study of Far River uh members of the city council when the city of fiver began disposing of the vacant vacant historic schools almost two decades ago the goal was to redevelop these properties so they might continue to serve the community by

adapting to the needs of today regrettably too many of those attempts were needlessly unsuccessful with promises falling short to Residents resulting in unnecessary demolitions like the NB bordon school and Healey school after their purchase and sale agreements went missing from City Hall during a prior Administration uh the Circa 1902 Frank M Silvia school at 138 Hartwell street is listed on the national register of

historic places as as well as fall River's list of significant structures the building has contributed to the history and culture of downtown Fall River for more than a century uh serving as one of Diamond's original locations even this opportunity to redevelop the former Sylvia school is the result of years of work by the city of Fall River and the preservation Society following up on the property's reverter Clause

from its prior sale in 2017 these are the same efforts that help the city receive $178,500 from the recent resale of the Lincoln School the preservation Society urges the city council to seize this third chance to keep its original promise to the far residents to redevelop the Sylvia school and not support any proposal that calls for the unnecessary demolition of this piece of local history sincerely the preservation

Society of Fall Rivers board of directors thank you thank you Alex thank you there being no one else ass signed of a citizen input time we move on to item number two fiscal year 202 5 quarter 1 budget report referred to the Council on October 22nd 2024 want to come down

please Council and seat seven Council oppos on let them introduce themselves first Seth Akens City administrator Bridget Alman CFO thank you Mr President um just one question Mrs Alman was in reference to what I had asked you earlier today um I know you said Mr Agar was an update us I don't know if you had an update I'm referring to the um inactive capital projects for streets and highways so he

is looking into it I don't have an update as of now but he knows that you're you're wanting that update and they are researching it now okay thank you I yield thank you councel counc seat six counc part thank you so um I know I I accidentally touched on this at our last uh meeting um but has there is there any concern for this fiscal year or future fiscal year budget

specifically this one that we're in on the possible loss of tax tax revenue for the transfer of sa an's hospital to now lifespan so there's definitely a concern um because you know obviously uh we had one for-profit Hospital in the city City and now that is in question that said uh I don't know that that is a done deal at this point uh and I obviously the transfer is a done deal but the question

of whether or not the city will receive any revenue is not a closed question um so there was a meaningful meeting uh not that long ago uh with the president of lifespan there were conversations about that at that point it was just before the transfer was to take place and as you probably all know the way that transferred happened um was literally lightning speed given the number of

assets that we're talking about um and so he needed a little more time to get through that and then renew the conversation so it's ongoing um I can tell you that lifespan now uh Brown Health um has actually done some great work in Rhode Island with pilots and other ways of giving back to the community um and not just the traditional Pilots but other other ways of uh of of trying to generate revenue

and contributing so those conversation are ongoing but I don't really have anything concrete to report uh other than that there seems to be an openness all right and and I I can appreciate the sensitivity to um internal discussions with a for-profit hospital in the mayor's office but you you started those conversations in the case just curiosity striking in the case that the city does not receive the tax revenue

for St an's hospital that we were generally expecting to receive in this fiscal year how much would we have lost in Revenue well so I had we were waiting to see if they made the um the the last tax payment I don't have an update if that's been received because um and then it depends because now they've gone to bankruptcy so uh it just it depend there's there are lawyers involved because I'm not I

don't have an exact number of what we would lose because there's several different parcels and where how that how that all falls out I know there was going to be a filing um but we don't have an exact amount so D I'm just curious due to their bankruptcy filing and I'm I'm sorry I don't mean to this is just coming to me now due to their bankruptcy filing that tells me that we

haven't received any of their tax payments from the prior uh turn in the cycle of tax payments being sent out correct no so we have received um they they were current up until this this year they were current in their tax current yeah okay um this this is obviously I I recognized when the assessor was down that you know we're seeing all this possible New Growth I know there there's a possibility we'll

start seeing some stuff from the Waterfront eventually soon um while I think that's a couple fiscal years away it's concerning to me that we could possibly see and I'm sure you as well a possible 1 million or so plus or minus um decrease in our local receipts when it comes to um tax uh tax revenue that we're generating from a huge Institute tion well so it it doesn't reduce the

levy no I recognize that but it still reduces the amount of of income whether it's coming in or out it's it's coming in or out it's not going to be used to one way or another correct well you're you're not collecting Revenue that you anticipated collecting for the current year but in the following year the tax levy doesn't get reduced it just gets dis spread out sure so when it comes to

this fiscal year do you anticipate there are being any shortcomings on the revenue aspect because of s hands so that's where we we actually have um our tax title attorney involved and so I don't have an ex I haven't been given a definitive answer on that yet so I don't know that answer how to answer I respect that when is lifespan Brown Health going to be getting back to on what their

plans are for a pilot and or what they're going to be doing I don't know when the next meeting uh between the mayor and Mr fetes is is supposed to be um I know that they intended to not let too much time pass before they continued that conversation because it's a pressing concern it's a big deal um um especially for this year um so as soon as I know when that's

going to happen I can certainly let the council know um certainly no promises as to what the outcome is uh but I know that that we are working on it okay um my next question is I'm seeing excise tax lagging a little bit is it pretty common to see it lagging in the percentage in the quarter one in your experience so so your motor vehicle excise tax the the big commitment

doesn't go out till February okay so we won't we get the information do doesn't even start pulling it down until January and so there we don't that's normal this is very normal okay net School spending this fiscal year how are we doing are we going to be able to do you see any surprises coming from the school department that's not anticipated that we might have to be on the keep our eyes

out for I mean we're going to owe them some funds we're actually working through those calculations with the school department now okay you're in direct cost agreement with the school department is that done yet so the direct cost agreement when we met with the school department we agreed to not make any changes so we're not changing anything as of right now didn't they come down here

yeah I was a little confused why that was said because we have met with them and we there was not we weren't we weren't changing the cost agreement we're changing a methodology but it doesn't need to be changed on the cost agreement and it has to do with health insurance so the outcome is different the contribution ends up increasing um but it's not necessarily that the agreement itself changes it's just how

we actually calculate the the per person cost um so I think that's probably what uh Mr Agar was referencing um um not Mr I'm sorry Al Mr alme I apologize all right yeah can you Circle back to me on that because I'm very confused how much do you say we're going to owe them some money what do you how much do you are you expecting several hundred thousand are we talking Millions so the last um

conversation that was given to the mayor was um around 300,000 I conversation I'm sorry with the school department the school department and and the mayor I'm not going to commit to that number till I finish doing the calculations I'm Jerry I'm sorry you said the millions 300 300,000 I am telling you I'm not committing to that number until we finish going through the calculation okay do you antic I know that their

collective bargaining unit is currently in Fierce negotiations with the school department is there do you expect there to be any additional Financial contributions from the city to the schools Midway through this fiscal year on where that negotiations going has there been anything brought to your attention at this point regarding that no no no okay last question is on the uh fire station fire stations and I know

that there's an item before us for the central fire station on the committee on finance tonight but I guess I'm getting and I can ask the chief when he comes down or he can come down now what's going on with repairing some of these fire stations um I know that we've had this discussion in the past I know there is some funding sources that are going to be helped where are we with getting

these fire stations fixed counc would you like them to come down now it's a separate subject from what is on the next item come down please Chief because I know we appropriated some money in and some capital projects some were inactive Chief if you can elaborate on what's going on with that please sure I don't know in specific I don't know what you're talking about so that so so Chief just state your name

for the record please uh Chief Jeffrey bacon for of a fire department thank you so you had um in an active capital projects back in 2021 this is just the first one some overhead doer uh doers Overhead Doors boiler and generators uh that seems to be a small number with still $130,000 to go uh it says waiting on Globe boilers waiting on generator install what's going on with that Globe

boilers were completed uh last year uh last fiscal year uh the generator was I believe uh at the center station and that was repaired rather than replaced it was found that it was a wasn't as serious of a repair as was anticipated so that's that's uh that one's taken care of so does that does that mean that the additional $129,000 of your $515,000 original loan order is not going to be needed to finish the rest of

the project uh I believe that that money was wasn't that money no this is that's this is different funds I mean this is what we received we'll have to and we'll get a further update so I guess my question is is there any other projects within the fire department buildings and Facilities that could be repurposed for this $129,000 that isn't being used on your $515,000 loan order to fix some of these

stations that are in my opinion some of them deplorable condition can we do something oh yeah there absolutely through facilities I'm always at the mercy of facilities right because I run the stations sure uh but I do not control any of the repairs or anything that gets done at the station so I'm more than happy to work with uh Al ala and and and um Identify some projects that we can do with that with

those funds I'd be more than happy to do that okay the station I always forget the name of the station behind us Center Street Station um there is did I say Central just Center station and it's not Center Street it's Bedford Street Station you know what I'm talking about I know are the same exact building I'm talking about yes um there were repairs that were approved to be done over there I believe through CP EMS EMS

it was there was I don't it's vague CPC you you were absolutely right on and they haven't started yet for some reason if my memory serves me correctly and speaking to some firefighters when is that going to be work moving so the CPA right the CPA funds um are for the facade of the building on the Bedford Street side okay uh that project has been in engineering I know they've uh

they've removed some of the metal from the front of the building to uh to try to replicate that um and there have been Engineers that have come down to take a look at the building and the structure uh and the uh of the of the facade um as far as where that is that would be a facilities question as well he's so just Chief I'm just curious do you have like

uh conversations in terms of a capital plan with facilities in terms of what what is going on in this fiscal year and going on into future fiscal years in terms of needs within your department building I have a monthly meeting with facilities to go uh over any issues that we have and is and major issues that need to be uh to be taken care of I've sat in on a couple meetings with the

with the engineers as far as the the Bedford Street Station the uh CPA money um there's nothing more that I want than for that to move forward and for them to be working on it from what I understand we're looking at spring for most of that work to begin is it because it's exterior work that needs to be done I think it's just been held up in the engineering and business

process okay um Mr aen could you at at your convenience not urgent but at your convenience could you maybe send the council or me an email that kind of outlines what the plans are for some of these fire stations in terms of what has been approved for projects in the last couple of years if if you can how much money what we're waiting on to get some of these repairs started and how we

could help move this along a little bit quicker because this kind of reminds me of deja vu a little all over again going back to like whatever it was 2017 18 where we had a veteran station uh building that was falling apart decaying roof leaks windows that needed to be repaired and unfortunately there wasn't really much in the way of things getting done until the council really started

pressing the gas and some of these Fire Stations from what I what I what I've seen and what I've heard uh and maybe I should go through another tour uh if I can because I really want to see some of these updated conditions because it's been a year or so since I've been in all of them we really need to start moving this along a little bit quicker and whatever it is that the council can do

whether it's whe inactive or active capital projects or money that's already been uh appropriated for from loan author loan order loan order authorizations I think we got to get moving on this because it's taking too long so um I won't file it as a resolution if you want to get it to the clerk she'll get it over to us M Aken and if I'm just not satisfied with it

I'll call you I'll let you know that and then I'll file a resolution because in my opinion it's taken way too long to fix these fire stations we were talking about this when I was on the council last time and that was over over a term ago so um I'd like to see some some some movement there so I don't have anything else thank you I yeld thank you counc

counc C4 Council Kilby yes just a really quick Council upon triggered a question in my mind nothing to do with you Chief but uh Bank Street Armory I know this is a quoty report um any new information on any movement or that in that in that regard it's okay so this this kind of might fall into the category if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all um the the uh the

last time we were here and had a conversation about the bank Street Armory um you know the city did have a plan it may not have been a plan that everyone liked but it was a plan um and uh there were a number of forces that coales around uh you know suggesting that another plan was better not that there was another plan plan but just any other plan was better um and then thereafter mayor had some

conversations um asking those folks to actually come up with some suggestions some funding some ideas uh and there just has been nothing uh there has been you know I think what I think that those groups seem to be very satisfied with stopping the progress and not really assisting in any sort of alternative um and that's unfortunately where it stands okay well U I'll be asking that question

I think more often um than not because uh I I think that you you'd be seeing a lot of I don't want to rehash everything but that was kind of a conflicting thing for me and a lot of other people to vote the way I voted um I mean just to be clear and thank you Council Pont for triing me because he was talking about the fire station and and that's an old

historic building so is that but something has to give on that building so the the city's position Remains the Same which is that you know uh an event space uh is not a viable option especially given the amount of repairs that are necessary um you know certainly a lot of folks have you know a lot of nostalgia for what used to happen in that building and I understand that the

problem is Nostalgia is not a plan and it certainly isn't funding um and that was kind of what we ran into is that we did have a plan where somebody was willing to come with the money uh and turn that into some housing and some other things that you know was not the plan that that the you know the community seemed to want which is certainly fine I understand that but it

doesn't necessarily mean that the that the city that the Administration has changed its view on what should be done with that building um so if the idea is that you know the folks out there that that don't want it to be turned into housing want us to do something else they're essentially saying we want you to do something that we've deemed not to be viable um so if it is in fact going

to be viable I think it requires some Community Partnership and and you know contribution to say hey this is how we think it could be viable and this is where we think the funding could come from because we would continue to come back essentially with the same idea it might be a different bidder a different developer but but the analysis that we've done comes back to the same conclusion over and over which is that

the only way to get that building back to a place of restoration and usability is for there to be kind of a for-profit housing um you know uh scheme um you know develop plan uh so that's kind of where it is so I just don't want you know the city to be responsible for having to do the same thing in the same way expecting a different more positive result that's very much the definition

of insanity uh and we would come back with with the same plan and it would probably be just as um ill received unfortunately well thank you for the answer and Sylvia school is another example of which is coming soon so thank you M aens for the honest answer I'm in agreement with you on this one I Y thank you thank you coun I think you should have stood your original thought Mr Akens that's all

right Council C1 Council Gade thank you Mr President um so just I guess first I'll I'll piggy back on the um Bank Street Armory so I did have a conversation with the mayor I don't I don't know maybe five six months ago and he had told me that there was potentially um a good plan with the bank Street Army that would bring a a New York organization to the city is that

still on the table or we have not heard so we followed up with them repeated ly um we have not heard back from them um I would say in more than a month um because I I do think based on the conversation I had I thought that was a a very viable option and probably the most the best option for um saving the building and the use for it and the potential that the you know obviously

the city would would see um and I guess the interest that would draw it on obviously I don't want to say you know the the organization because I know there it's not public information but I was just curious about it but I know it didn't include housing so I just want to make sure that uh that was still on the table because when we last discussed it he he thought there was some real

interest in that so there certainly was and and that was kind of a uh in a lot of ways that was kind of a unicorn type of situation I mean that particular organization um had significant funds to put toward the building um had a plan for the building that would really make it a a centerpiece in the the city uh it would have been sort of a remarkable opportunity we're not closed to those

possibilities um you know there are definitely um sort of both external and internal influences in the city that um that I think turned the perspective of the of the people that were looking at the building um in a negative way uh I don't know if that's the reason why we haven't heard from them recently uh but we did continuously follow up um and it seems that at this this point uh having

not heard for a while it's really hard to speculate as whether they're in a design phase or whether they've turned to other options okay um so and then I just want to I guess piggy back on what my colleague and and C6 had stated with regards to the capital items so I I don't disagree I I I think the obviously I've I've stated this before that you know our buildings need to be addressed

but the last time the capital plan was was put forth I think what as a council what we need to do B top of the request that uh Council Ponty had had requested is is really identify the funding sources and then how much we anticipate um spending for Capital items either outside of the operating budget or inclusive of the operating budget so that when we see the capital plans and we have um some discussions with regard

to uh the needs of not just the fire department police department and other departments throughout uh the city we can we can really kind of try to figure out what the priority is as opposed to us just scaling saying you know it's um Center fire station or it's city hall or it's the police department whatever it is just that um without knowing a true dollar amount that we have available uh

for these Capital items uh it it's hard to really kind of make sure that we know what the true priority is so if if we can just try to identify that with with his request as well I appreciate that so we actually we did start that this week um sort of went through each of the department heads and got their wish list um and I didn't limit it to Capital

items I I wanted to understand what they saw as the needs in their department whether it was Personnel whether it was tools whether it was Capital whatever it was um so that was the informal start of that process um and then starting next week it's going to be a department head by department head um you know well uh the CFO myself department head trying to look at act you know estimated costs

funding sources and all that stuff just for the record I I do need to push back at the statement that the firehouse Z deplo horrible condition I think that is and that's not uh by any fault of council or pony that is somebody telling him that they're in horrible condition and it's a dramatic overgeneralization is I mean there's been quite a bit of work done uh I think you could arguably

say that anybody you know that that works in Government Center any of the other City buildings could find things about them that are very you know that are that are irritating that we you know we could do better we could we can always do better um but there there is there is no Universe in which we're asking any of our Public Safety people to work and truly depl deplorable conditions um that effort is being made

all the time to improve those things and even in the last year a lot of improvements have been made and I just know people watch they listen and take that as as gospel when in fact it's it's a perspective that I I have to say I I wholeheartedly disagree with yeah I listen I I don't disagree with you I think our definition of deplorable may may vary um so I I think we all want the

same thing we want to see our buildings uh to be well maintained and and kept up um but the reality of the situation is is that we've never really truly had a good maintenance plan and preventative maintenance plan for our buildings which is why they're in the you know the uh position or or the um status that they're in that being said I I don't disagree with you there's been a lot of

money that's been uh invested over the last couple of years into our buildings um so with that being said we want to I think we all want to see them in in a better situation 100% absolutely from a structural standpoint and just you know whether it's pain cleanliness what whatever the case may be so I think that comes down as a a partnership with the city council and and the administration

to truly identify these Capital needs and I and just from my standpoint I and that's why I'm just trying to figure out what what the pool of money is whether it's grant money um stabilization account are we B borrowing how much money do we have set aside specifically for Capital items and then at that point you know we can stop to have those conversations as as to which ones are a

priority versus other ones not saying that we won't we don't want to take care of all of them but obviously got limited funds so uh with those limited funds how do we invest into the uh infrastructure that we need so with that I yield thank you councel counc C2 counc Dion good evening um in terms of Pilots so the projected number is what 450,000 to date so first quarter we have

zero um it's 450 thou I didn't I should have looked back but I didn't traditionally is is that the target number every year no so I can that is specifically the Fall River um Housing Development okay and so that's based on a formula a federal formula depending on like the income and then how many units so that is around the amount um we did have a conversation with their executive director recently I think they're

because which I did not know this so recently they also factor in what they pay for utilities comes as a subtraction from that because utility costs have gone up on their side so we act they next year he thinks it could even go down to like 425 so but it's based on this Federal formula and it has to do with the housing developments so then that would lead me to my next question

would be do we have nonprofits in the city that contribute to Pilots right now no no no none no there there's certainly been the start of that conversation and end it pretty quickly um and it's it's something that we need to have a conversation about keep you know we need to have the the courage to keep trying to have that conversation um because you can't necessarily Force you

know anyone to enter into a pilot but it probably is good citizenship uh it is good you know neighborly you know action on the part of the the pretty major nonprofits that we do have in the city and it would be great to uh to try to resolve some of those and I would agree with you and I think what bothers me is the nonprofits in the city of Fall River

and correct me if I'm wrong I have no problem with that but I believe own over 50% of the taxable properties in the city is that close it's it sure sounds close um I don't know the actual percentage but that that that sounds pretty right to me that would be a fair assessment so 50% of the taxable property in this city is is a significant dollar amount and could how would that could benefit our community

so it really upsets me that we have nonprofits that we give City Grants to that um we have a a um a department let's call it that gives significant funding um we H but yet we get nothing back and I'm just going to say it because it's the truth we get nothing back we give and we give and get nothing back that really bothers me and I think I think that's something we that's a

road we really need to stop going down um which obviously is no reflection on either one of you it's it's just a fact I think uh shell Silverstein wrote a book about that we're going to end up as a stump at the very end it's very sad yeah um on so I only have two questions on page four under expenses and then on page seven um the audit is office the original appropriation is

55,000 and they've used 41.8% of that those that dollar amount already um under other purchase services so yes we actually there was um an upfront cost for a city for a grant software package that were using that's what accounted for that okay and on page seven it's similar it's the treasurer's office and and uh 30,000 I mean that's not huge dollar amounts it's just 30,000 was appropriated 77% of that has been

expended for other purchase Services as well uh page seven not the bottom I'd have to look at the detail of that because off the top of my head I don't have that I I know that there are has to do with um a consultant that we use through from m but I I'll have to confirm that and get that back to you okay um I'd like to also piggyback on the bank street

omry I was one who all along was supporting keeping it believing something could be done with it um I know that the um historical commission was willing to lead the charge in terms of looking for funding and that sort of thing I had heard that as well okay um a request was made I wrot I know I wrote a resolution but a request was made that the ordinance be changed that the park board yeah Board

of Park Commissioners be taken out insert historical Commission because I feel if you don't have the authority why would you pursue it um that hasn't been done it hasn't happened every time we ask about it we're told oh it's not an ordinance it is an ordinance so my next suggestion would be let's get rid of the ordinance then because I've said since the beginning even if we found this the best

course was not for the city to move forward with the building um if we take care of the envelope if we replace the windows put in a heating system do the pointing which is not an extreme amount of money um CPC has said said the funding is there it makes the building more valuable and perhaps it would make it easier for us to attract somebody to pursue it if we secure that

envelope um I think that's the reasonable thing to do and it's not it's not such a an extravagant dollar amount that it can't be done um also the historical commission was willing to go forward and try to get funding for um to have somebody look at it assess it and give us what they thought was the best course of action and best use for that building so I think if we

could at least do accomplish those two things it would put us far ahead of where we are now and that's just about that's just my piece on the omry just to follow up on councelor kade's question and that as well the mayor just did text me and he actually did have a conversation with the folks that were interested in purchasing the Armory last week that I didn't know about um so we hadn't heard

from them for a while we did talk last week apparently and um what I'm told is and I'm just going to quote so there's no misstatement um waiting for the architect to finish a plan and are still very interested so that's something oh and that would essentially be a museum archive type scenario um with a lot of uh sort of academic research opportunities that could be really uh uh pretty wonderful and

unusual unique to this to this area and it would pres and it would preserve the Integrity of the building as well right okay thank you with that I yield thank you counc SE seven yeah just two quick questions since we're talking about buildings here the police station on be Street any I know the last conversation was it's going to fall down eventually but any any progress update on that um

it's coming back to the city um so there's an arrangement in place with the buyer um to return that back to the city uh with a a financial Arrangement um based in part upon what was paid for the permit uh that he was going to use to reconstruct it uh some return of that some retention of that by the city uh and um as soon as that happens which is imminent the ideas for inspectional

services to commission sort of one last review of both structural soundness aest um lead uh contamination in the ground because there was a firing range in the basement there was gasoline uh pumps in the back um all of those things to figure out if there is any viability I think we're fearful that the end result may be that the building has to be knocked down for safety uh but if

there's any way to avoid that uh this sort of last ditch uh review should expose that okay and then the I think it was a budget time I had asked and there was talk about the munus codes being updated any any progress update on that Mrs you mean so that we'd have like uh uniform TR of accounts yeah actually we just talked about that today and um we have a meeting again on Friday um our budget

analyst is working on that um so she's supposed to be um updating me and in the team and so we can move forward with that awesome thank you I yield thank you coun D no further questions I just have one quick question as any department head or in this first quar report have you been you any red flags do any department head tell you there might be a shortfall in foreseeable near future

is there any red flags concerns that we should be concerned about that none of the council has asked you about today um no I mean if you go through the book right now we're at you know just under 25% of expenditures our revenues are right in line um where they normally are and this is about the point where you know as we get to the halfway point we start doing like routine projections and

looking at salaries and a more routine based Pro in out so as of right now nothing is is showing a red flag um but then again this is where we start looking at it more tightly as we get the halfway point and as we keep moving along forward okay I'm just curious as whether anyone brought anything to your attention that might be possible and um the big departments we have routine

conversations I mean we have a quarterly meeting with police and fire departments um and EMS which you know they have significant overtime so we have lots of conversations um with them to stay on top of it and I I have to be honest um all three of those departments have been very cooperative and we've had really good conversations and helping keep our overtime in check all right good thank

you very much thank you for coming down appreciate it Mo move on to item number three thank you br increase the existing loan order for renovations and repairs to the central fire station and construction of an EMS storage facility total amount is $3,200,000 it was referred on October 22nd of 2024 Mr President can I do a little intro on this one if that's okay absolutely coun absolutely so you might

recall a year and a half ago maybe um when councelor peler was still here uh and I mentioned that because he factors heavily into my tale of wo um we had introduced a $2.7 million bond with the idea that part of it would be for the center fire station um and of course it's not only upgrades to the station and establishment of a classroom and a number of other facilities but also

making it safe for male and female paramedics because uh EMS has a significant number of female paramedics to have Barracks uh and bathrooms and everything else in the center fire station um and making sure that there is privacy and safety for our female uh paramedics is critically important and as you can imagine when that building was built that wasn't really even a thought so uh we came before you a while

back um and uh the request was $2.7 Million partly for the center fire station and partly for an undisclosed location now that undisclosed location was the nle auditorium and the reason I couldn't disclose it at that time is that all of the all of the stakeholders in the niggle Auditorium which is basically a number of folks that were looking at renting it somebody that may or may not have been trying to that

wanted to make a plan to use the space that we were talking about using if they didn't use it and then of course the school department had not given their blessing on the thing so I couldn't necessarily announce that we wanted to put a bunch of money into the Nega Auditorium uh without actually having permission to do that work in the first place uh as it turns out um uh Mr peler

um suggesting that I was uh you know full of it um in uh response to my request turned out to be a blessing because um we have a different plan that I think is much better for the needs of the EMS Department going forward as you know EMS has started a program with Charlton hospital um and there was even some preliminary conversations uh with brown Health depending on where that goes to increase the breath of our

service um they've for the last um almost a month now right Chief the last month been doing uh a transport service with Charlton uh that is going to generate not only significant Revenue for EMS but also be a really great service for the residents of the city that is on top of the 911 Service as well as the integrated mobile Health um that uh is doing home visits and other

things so there's a lot of um you know frying pans in the fire here uh and part of the need here is a uh space building a storage facility for vehicles up in the headquarters so rather than put something at the Nagle which is where we're talking about possibly the EMS school and other things the paramedic school um this is going to be that same Rehabilitation of the center Station making sure safety privacy for our

female paramedics as well as a storage facility for the fact that our Fleet of ambulances is growing in order to meet an Ever growing need with an Ever growing number of programs so I'll turn it over to um the EMS Chief and Deputy Chief and the fire chief uh to elaborate so when you were asking me about um stations before I knew this was coming up so clearly the center Station when I

started in 2002 I walked through that station and said I don't anticipate this building being here at the end of my career um it was pretty bad um it there had been some improvements to it but this is the plan that makes this station viable for another 50 60 years right it's been begging for these Renovations the only station that is currently that was built with female firefighters Andor

paramedics in mind is the Northend station uh all the other stations need adaptations to accommodate female firefighters and paramedics the center station is the very first and the uh the one the station that we need to prioritize because of the presence of uh EMS in that building there are a significant higher number of females that are working in that building um this work has needed to be done for a

generation and it absolutely needs to be done as soon as possible as far as the storage building um we've gotten to a point because of the rapid expansion of VMS that we just don't have space in our stations uh spaces that were used for drill for Hands-On training are now uh being conducted outside or not being conducted at all because we just don't have the space there are two spare

medical units that are parked outside my headquarters building right now because there's no space um I think it was an oversight in 2002 that there wasn't a storage building built at that facility and I'm sure it had to do with finances but that's been a long time coming as well and that building will allow us to safely store EMS Vehicles potentially put um the EMA vehicles in that station

which will open up space in every fire station so that we can safely store safely work around and still do the drilling and and everything that we're accustomed to doing in the stations thank you Cony six C thank you Mr President all right so just a couple quick questions and for the avoidance of Doubt right so Chief you made two uh essential comments right first comment was that the station behind us needs

some work where exactly is the storage building at headquarters at the facility at headquarters it's actually directly behind the fire station okay so my headquarters facility has the fire station the headquarters building the maintenance shop and the training Tower okay and the nice thing about putting this spare vehicle storage building between the fire station and the maintenance shop is when trucks go out

of service to be repaired you're there the truck that they're going to move into is right there and it saves a lot of duplication of effort and a lot of shuffling around round of bodies okay but you're just you're just so we're clear cuz I'm I want to make sure there's no confusion you're saying that the the fire station uh behind us in this building behind this building here needs work this is that is separate and

apart from the loan order loan order increase that you're getting tonight or is it the same thing you're speaking it's included it's included these are the actual plans from the architect uh for the Central Station so this is the actual Center Station Renovations that you're looking at these are all the proposed renovations right here this is the Central Station okay so there are essentially two two

items in this increase the central fire station and the EMS storage facility correct the steel building storage building will be up north between the fire station and the maintenance building on my desk is a little bit of a mess right now but how do I how do I determine which how much is being allocated towards Central fire station and the EMS storage facility of this so the pricing that

we've gotten from uh the meetings that we've had with the engineers um is you're looking at roughly $2 million for the repairs to the uh Center station and roughly between a million and $1.2 million for the for I'm sorry Chief say that again2 million for what $2 million for the repairs uh the actually it's not even repairs it's a massive renovation it really is it's modernizing the center

Station the living quarters of the center Station yes that's about a $2 million project okay it's a fortress that was built in the 20s that wouldn't still be standing if EMS storage facility needs how much uh about the $1.2 million wow it's a very large building it's a 90 by 70 all right so if you're like me and even more confused now in 20121 when the council at that time authorized a $2.7 million

authorization Capal this is that this is that project correct that same project that's somewhat in the negative under our capital projects for $6,500 correct no that project never went forward no so that so what's getting booked to that is the Architects and um so that has been booked to that that line yeah so you haven't spent all but $ 6200 on that $2.7 million we spent the 2.7 million we haven't even bonded

for it yet so that's been paid for EMS has been paying for that right that's just a timing of can you just speak into the microphone originally when we decided that we were going to get the bond for $2.7 million was preco that was going to be an put the microphone a little closer please thank you it was actually meant to be an actual EMS like building with room for storage plus quarters for the

the crews but by the time Co ended that price of that structure went up to 1212 million so that it tripled so we never actually went forward with the bond because of that when the increased cost volume of the original building we were going to put together just became not feasible okay so you need another turns to me about another $500,000 on that loan order authorization yeah and so you

have you do have the loan order Amendment um that was provided for the in the last meeting right you want to go from 2.7 to 3.2 correct okay here's my question a of curiosity uh two questions does EMS in the uh in the municipal budget pay towards its debt service yes what is their contribution towards their debt they pay all they so whatever Debt Service is attributed to to EMS EMS pays

for 100% of it okay so the the EMS will pay this Bond out of its own budget okay thank you for that next question is there's no way that you would be able to cover half or all of the $500,000 increase within your operational budget with all of the increases that you're seeing uh that Mr Aken just briefly indicated yeah so the the increases that we're talking about are in process that

obviously just started so yes we we will see increases do we know what those increases will be no we can project uh but until we actually see a full fiscal year um I would not be comfortable with doing that right now um but moving forward yes but I'd like to see a full fiscal year revenue and see where the numbers are and sit down with um Bridget and um so you think so then let me ask

you this why can't you work if you think you might be able to down the road work it within your operation budget why wouldn't you come back to us after you started expending out the $2.7 million why would we do that now help me am I missing something I'm seeing well I think is you need the so the work needs to happen now and I think we're just going to keep fighting the escalation fight of the

increas in costs I yeah the longer we wait the more expensive this gets there was a significant um investment in on Em's part in personnel and trucks to get ready for the Charlton uh contract but hold on please I'm so sorry help me understand this you have $2.7 million we have not bonded for this yet so then why is it showing in the active capital projects because it's authorized it's

authorized so 2.7 was authorized so so what's what's making help me understand what's making you not use the 2.7 that was already authorized because we've never bonded it well we didn't bond it because you we didn't have a plan like there wasn't a definitive plan so when they got a definitive plan met with the Architects the the costs were increasing we put it on hold and we said we know

we're going to need more money so that's why you have the amendment before you and you can't and you're saying you can't do it with the 2.7 you need the 3.2 for both projects yes I'm I'm going to clarify smidgen so what happens is a lot of now that we've increased our ambulance call ambulances because of the the nontransporting service we've put like four trucks on to meet the child in

contract that we're doing to try to increase what happens is the state regulations these buildings have to be temperature controlled and they have to be in a environment where they they can't get over hot or over cold so there's not enough room in our current stations to be able to support that many trucks with climate control to meet the state regulations so that way none of the equipment freezes none of the drugs

the drugs reach temperature so in order for this to do that we need some form of storage facility that's climate controlled that can accommodate the trucks and so as um City ma Aken was saying is that there are some potential for some increases still in the future so in order to accommodate that if we're going to do it we might as well accommodate it so that we have the room

to grow right rather than having to come back again say we need another addition so rather than just do it we probably should just do what we need to do to accommodate what we think we're going to where we where we want to go in the future so the $3.2 million with all these escalation discussions is going to satisfy both buildings and allow you to be able to take care of this with the

3.2 correct and you have bids to support that we have bids on Center on most of Center uh and there's an estimate on the space building as well as engineering and site work that adds up to the 3.2 okay and there's also a small percentage contingency just you know obviously in case it's would be crazy to do you know we have three.2 worth of expenses so we're going to borrow 3.2 it's probably closer to

3 look I I I get that EMS pays its debt service I recognize that but I'm just being hypercritical of debt and I'm sure you are as well continued loan authorizations over loan authorizations if we can start working it within our operation budget if you're telling me that you can't do it right now or that's not something you can't commit to and it will be putting the department in Jeopardy of being able to continue to

maximize execution well that's a valid discussion that we're having and I I respect that right but I'm just I I want to be cognizant of the continued oh we need more money we need another $500,000 you do have the 2.7 whether it wasn't bonded for or not it was authorized so so when I was down here a year and a half ago that's why I was here to ask

that you allow us to bond the 2.7 it was shot down so it's been authorized for a couple years it was never allowed to go forward and that's the problem so now we look at it and say hey this is actually 3.2 this is more than what because so much time has passed so the because the original authorization was specifically for a steel building so we came back last year for an amendment to the

language of what we'd be able to bond for so we don't just go Bond money like when we when we think about something because we have to be able to give a cash flow we have to spend money in a percentages of money in a certain time otherwise we would have Arbitrage so until we have a definitive plan and I know when the cash is going to have to

leave the door I have to provide that to like to our um Bond Council and then that's at that point when we would execute it so we were looking for to change language from just a steel building only and that's what got got shot down last time but at that time it was 2.5 so that's why so so to execute that original 2.7 at this point it's only authorized originally authorized

for a steel building only got it you've answered my questions thank you I yield thank you c c C2 good evening so I'm going to start off by apologizing because I'm probably going to be a little bit all over the place um because I have a lot of stuff here um so let me go back to seeing it was touched upon um these are minutes from 2023 meeting uh the city administrator also

clarified that a portion of the request included the packet for this agenda item a letter from EMS director Timothy ala had stated that portions of old dery high school may be utilized and that was still in discussion and not def def defined so you did allude to the fact that it had it was related to dery just not the specific building right so only because you brought it up um this goes back to council

peler that again you brought up both the city administrator director of financial Services explain that they are utilizing all options of funding for this project currently including this loan order which was the 2.7 um and Community preservation act funding Council peler expressed concern regarding approving the loan order if there isn't a concise plan for spending that was his ISS his big issue um which

in hindsight I guess it turn and you even you said it ended up being a good decision because now you're in a better place I guess um Mr Akin gave a brief overview of plan renovations to the central fire station and information on the number of administrative employees that would utilize the facility president Kamara asked if a list of Ren Renovations repairs and estimates could be provided to the city council at that

meeting at the next meeting so obviously we never had that that didn't happen well the outcome of that hearing is why it didn't happen because the thing was was it ended there you know what I'm saying so there there was a a vote taken to we tabled it yeah and so at that point my understanding is that it wasn't moving forward unless the council wanted to take it off the

table um I think people were looking for more specificity um I I think people didn't like there was gray area um people so when did okay so you're saying it stopped there um our fa for stopping it but you have a plan now so when did it pick up again that you created this new plan it's yeah it was during the summer it's it's been during the summer and RTA is the architect firm that's been

assigned to it through uh facilities and they came up with this plan we've had this I want to say we got this in July and we've been having meetings on it and trying to tweak it when you look at the second page uh it does a u proposed classroom in the center that probably won't happen due to cost and renovation in that area so the old maintenance shop so we're probably going to scratch that

but the red area where it says gear rooms that will take place there'll be new gear rooms and hangers for their gear so it can air dry because the current system is just in a closed room it's actually things like mildew and the chemicals off their gear just stay in that room so it'll be able to ventilate uh we've already put Primo vent system in the stations under our budget uh all

the draws you see on Troy street were from EMS we paid for those um so even with this going on we've been trying to little by little also try to get things fixed in the station also um but at this point we do have the plan here and um if you the top page is the upstairs and that's all the renovations that you're looking at now is that's the work that will be done upstairs

um so way back when when this first started um and it was state of the building would have this was when it was going to be up at Commerce Way which obviously this isn't the plan anymore and it's ironic that at that time it was a 1.2 million doll project preo um so that's kind of interesting what's changed to Central fire station in terms of the the dollar amount um well I think because they

broke they so they couldn't get the whole building because that went over 12 million so then they started looking at other options so some of that plan ended up moving to Center station so that's why those renovation and it also benefits the whole building in general and then the building that's getting built for storage is not the going to Encompass what the original building they had wanted at that lower price

because it's impossible now so so something that bothers me is um you had come down for us to do a transfer 313,000 for Pearl and Third Street garages part of that money was 76837 which I know doesn't touch half a million dollars however it's close to a 100,000 um at that time we said well if we if we transfer that to be expended on the you know Pearl Street and Third

Street garages you're not going to come back for more money to put into the into the fire station and the answer was no no no we're good we're good well here we are needing more money um at that that same time um councilor Pont expressed concern regarding the relocation of bond proceeds from the globe Street and Flint Street fire stations Seth Thomas Ain uh City administrator stated that he had

discussed this matter with the fire chief who wasn't fire uh Chief bacon at the time I believe it was yeah it was it yep Oh wow I've been around a little while see I was taking you off the hook um let's who confirmed that the funds to complete the repairs for the roofs and doors of the stations were available through other Financial sources including a community preservation act Grant Mr Aken explained

that the F Chief and the director of City operations agreed to move the unexpected the unexpended bond pre proceeds to another uh repair project for the city after obtaining alternative funding for the fire stations so what alternative funding if any did we get and did any of it contribute to what you're doing now the um the EMS Enterprise fund paid a portion of the um doors um and we uh paid a portion of the

keltron the keltron upgrades to the speaker system in the stations we purchased that out of the Enterprise could you please speak into the microphone it's very difficult to hear you just pull the microphone closer to you just pull it down so we um we paid a portion of the garage doors to replace the garage doors that needed to be replaced in the station out of the Enterprise fund we also did the we

upgraded the speaker system and the calron station system in the fire stations and there was one other thing you just said forgot Prim Event Systems we put in the uh Prime Event Systems that go to the exhaust so there's no exhaust in the stations and all the doors on Troy street and we I'm sorry all the garage doors on Troy street all the red doors that was all Enterprise fund and the calron systems were all

upgraded in every station the only station we did not cover the cost on I believe was the globe station um but every other station we paid for the upgrade for the uh warning system a keltron system for uh every other fire station which was a significant cost and I so I do know that I mean we make money off the garages and so the the plan is is to try to open up some more of those

floors to be able to have more spots open oh right no I I I understand that and I yeah and and I mean we're trying to so to answer your question about the alternative funding sources though um is an assistant uh FEMA has a program assistance to firefighter grants and in the last uh two years we've um we've received 275 or $280,000 through those grants for um for funding for fire alarms in the stations

and for some of the other repairs uh We've also used arpa to fund um some HVAC systems in the stations um as far as the bonds that were taken out the roof work was completed the globe station the garage doors were uh installed that was that was before my time but that work uh cited in those bonds had been completed okay and then I guess I just have one question so you stated um Mr aens

that um oh boy just lost my mind for part of Central Station you've received bids is that what you said a few minutes ago for different portions of it there's there's a whole bunch of different parts to Central Station so Prime event a great example that's not part of this but that was the first thing the EMS did I don't know if you remember whenever you went down Troy Street you would see

civilian Vehicles parked in those base does anybody remember that and the reason for that is you couldn't Park a you know the trucks apparatus going to fall through the floor back then well it's more the ambulances and apparatus have to be on all the time they have to be running right you can't you know now because of how they look at uh emissions within fire stations and the zones uh

you know firefighter safety you can't have those vehicles on unless you have a system that covers up the exhaust and then vents it out um so EMS put those in all the Troy Street Bays uh so you now now you can use all the Bays if you needed to um with vehicles that would be first responder Vehicles so I guess my question is at this point in time you know everything else that needs to be

done or that you would like to see done to that building yes so why wouldn't you get one bid for for all of the work that is necessary at this point in time because between the technical stuff like the vents and you know alarms and everything else those are different vendors right and then there's vendors that would actually do the the rehabilitation of the building from a structural paint um you know system and

then you know they might sub their Plumbing in electrical which hopefully that's ideal um so it just it's a matter of there not being a single vendor that would do all the things that would need to happen in a fire station if we were just building a city building pretty easy right um because you're looking at offices with you know bathrooms and some lights uh but once you start to get into

technical buildings uh it's just a lot of it's just different vendors um so that's the only reason it's not anything special it's just that there's different needs okay thank you that I yield thank you coun I just want to clarify one thing um Mr Akens I know you said when it was tabled that you felt it was just it died there I want to make it perfectly clear to all my colleagues

that for the next city six for the time it was tabled to the next six City Council meetings the clerk's office was asked you if you were prepared to come down to the council and talk about this again and the answer was always not ready yet oh I don't remember that I thought it was done um yeah I I I sort of understood that as being well it doesn't matter there was

fire arbitration going on at the time I think there was something else going on and that's where the the push back was coming from and that was why I didn't I didn't think that there was any uh ability to to revive that but now I just want to make it perfectly clear it wasn't because this Council stalled or hesitated on it we I specifically remember in the CL can attest to it

every time I was put an agenda together this would come up and I say well let's see if they're ready to talk about it now if they're ready for the proposal and the answer I got back was always no we're not ready right now so we kept pulling it off okay that's not my memory but I'll I'll certainly take your word for it Mr President I have no reason to think otherwise just want to make it

clear thank you con1 C thank you Mr President so just in terms of the design that we have before us is is this just a conceptual design or are we design development construction documents so this is this is the first set of drawings from RTA uh the next step if this gets approved they will start sending people into the station and actually doing whatever they they take measurements they start actually doing

construction so this is not not a feasibility so they're already this this is design devel design development what you're seeing is the work that will get done they just need to start sending people in and start taking measurements and look at the dep to work for the bathrooms and Etc like that things yeah exactly okay so the I guess then my question would be so the budget or the estimates that you have before us are

not true bids right so are there estimates that we we go to like a did so did RT do a third party estimator and that's how we're getting this like how how we identify you'd have to talk to Mr alera about that I don't want to answer for him um I'm under the the assumption that he's f a long that's happened but I don't want to speak for him okay I mean typically

that's what happens The Architects give you um estimates and a in that before you move forward completely yeah and then we'd have to know that we actually had funding to be able to really move forward no I I I recognize that I I guess um so typically I mean when you get an estimate for if you going to do a new building like a new construction or an renovation sometimes you get an estimate

other times you'll just ask for or um costs associated with just design through construction documents and then just wait for the bid numbers to come back so that we have an actual dollar amount that's that's in there there's not one one right way or one wrong way to it it's just I'm just trying to figure out like how much the actual cost and and I guess the the real reason I

ask is um in terms of this is solely just the second floor on the center fire station correct the the and I've been in meetings with Al um ala and RTA and the the biggest cost Chief uh Bacon's been there also the biggest cost you're looking at is the bathroom work obviously the plumbing bathrooms the uh hbac system they don't know what they're going to do with that yet they've come

trying to come up with different ideas but like the bunk rooms that's more updates you know pain that's cosmetic cosmetic stuff there's a lot of Cosmetics here hallway no yeah I guess I recognize that I guess where I was where I'm trying to figure out what I'm trying to figure out is so if this is if we approve this does that then take Center five Street uh Center Station outside of

out of the conversation in terms of additional improvements or future Renovations or anything like that so's the first I I believe so that would be my opinion um minus obviously we're not touching the kitchen so down the road they might want to update the kitchen but every everywhere you see where the colors are that's getting renovated so about the first floor so with all the the Baye and stuff is there the first

floor is garage and storage space uh the only proposed so the bunk room is is a big a big Improvement for us to have a properly ventilated bunk room and then that space in the back that was future uh potentially future classroom uh none of that needs any work there's nothing that needs to be done in those the only other thing that you would do in that station would be the existing officers

rooms cosmetic flooring you know paint that kind of stuff and then the windows would be you know they they don't leak but they would need replacing down the line so I guess that's where that's what I'm getting to right so if we're talking about a $2 million project 3 million doll project for for both items I for one would want to know exactly what do we need to do to get Center Center Street

Station out of the compensation in terms of needing repairs right so if that means replacing a Windows Plumbing HVAC whatever is needed in that building I would like to personally see a cost associated with that so we do it once right because I I don't disagree with you so the $2.7 million that you had in 2020 that's that's like a 40% increase now just on the construction cost that we're seeing um the space building

itself is is really just Steel in that I mean Steel's through the roof right now um so to just push it along and then just PEC mail it I guess would just be more costly I'd rather see something um to you know renovate the entire second floor if there are improvements that are needed on the first floor in terms of the uh the apparatus Bay or anything anything like that let's all do it at do

it once so let's amend the change order and then now we're not talking about Center Center Station anymore Center station is completed we got the storage over for EMS we're done so now what we're dealing with are just the other stations which might just be minor Renovations or repairs I think the reason that that is would be very difficult to do and to price out now is that this needs to be phased for us to

be able to continue working out of the station so this would you're looking at a very long-term project to get all of that done and to so to talk yeah but but I don't disagree with you but I but I think even now if if you're only if you're only into design development you're going to be eight months out before you even get construction documents right and then to go to bid is

going to be another two three months you're a year out so there um RT is telling us um if everything continues to go as plann they're looking at beginning Construction in the spring spring late spring early summer God bless him that's a that's aggressive um I think we're further along in this than I wish Al we're here because he could tell you exactly how far along we are in this this was ready to go out the

bid so then you're you're you're further along you've got to be in construction documents or see I again not uh not my forte That's Not My Lan but as far as as far as I know and my impression based on the meetings I've been in is this is this work is ready to go to bed so but I I think what what's left I mean to to scope out windows and I mean I

that can't be that can't be too much more I mean is did you say the roof was replaced the roof was replaced uh three or four years ago so we don't need a roof other than where if you're going to put any HVAC units out there but I mean if if we're talking about there's minimal work like there's not really you're not going to require a lot of engineering to be done and you were just

talking about scoping out windows and things that nature I I can't imagine that that would delay the process by much it may change listen but it' probably be a change order for the consultant not the Architects come on and do that I I think delaying this project is detrimental to the ability and to council lant's Point Chief I think that down the road when EMS knows their revenues then then Windows is a

project they would be able to sustain based just on their budget with all due respect this is a waste of taxpayer money right so if we don't delay the projects because this is all we're doing is we we we tend to just like other communities do and I understand that we're not unique but we are shortsighted and we do not plan right so we've been talking about improving and you know

fixing up five stations for since I've been on this Council right and it pre predates this Administration it goes back to a prior Administration and all administrations this administra Administration included has refused to come down with a proposal before us right from my standpoint I think we should have a just like we do pavement management plans we should have at least a uh a building

management plan for the for the fire department tell us what all the needs are for each depart uh each building so that we can see that and then phase it in to P mail this and then to go in and if we need to make some changes and then you know break down walls that we just paid for or anything like that it it doesn't make any sense then you're talking about just um escalation right

forget forget about mobilizing right you get a g to come out to mobilize then they have to demobilize and then you're going to go back out do drawings again we're playing paying an architect for More Design what do we a year two years later you know 15% escalation on top of that doesn't make any sense it's shortsighted I I think if we know we have a building that needs to be fixed

to meet the needs and we're already in the process of design I'm not sure what's what stage of the design to get additional windows and and secure that building to where we're now just talking about preventative maintenance makes sense to me to to just peace mail it give you you know $3.2 million then come back and and with the track record that we have we probably don't come back

right you know we wait years before we we fix our our buildings which is a concern so that's just that's just my take and it's not directed to you I understand what you're saying You' you've got to advocate for your department and I wholeheartedly appreciate that from my standpoint I also want to advocate for your department and get that building to where it needs to be once and for all so

we're not peac mailing it I just I feel like we we we should have new windows we should make sure the roof's got done we should make sure the pointing is done we should make sure all the apparatus bays are secure and stable and we've got this you know sh up with cement and everything else I mean you got the the pl Primal vents you got all the notification systems that are costly

from a technology standpoint and things like that so that that's good so there can't be a whole lot more in terms of what would be needed to make sure that we take this off the list of you know buildings that need major renovation or repairs one so just if I can respond to that briefly so I think part of the the issue is is that the budget that we're working with here is is what EMS felt

like given all the known things and unknown things felt like they could afford The Debt Service on right so it includes all of the have toavs that they have identified uh including the storage up in the north um where the headquarters is as well as uh as much of a remodel of Center as can be done in conjunction with the CPC money uh which is external uh there's there's some there's some things that go along with

that other than just metal work but there's you know it's it's a it's an external exterior project um to add on Windows and to add on all the things you're talking about I think makes it a project that they would there would need to be additional City money in addition to the Enterprise fund money um EMS is identified we think given our Revenue we can sustain this project The Debt

Service great if we add on to it I could go back to EMS and say can you afford another you know million dollars you know to borrow to make sure that this is done the way you want it to be done or can we do a second phase where we budget for next year in the fire department's budget and because there still is fire apparatus there I mean it's it's split

between fire and EMS where we uh we factor that into the budget and do the windows and do the additional things so I think what we're talking about is is that there are two agenes here and one is an Enterprise fund the other is a city Department no I I I recognize that and I'm not saying it needs to come from one no department but I I will tell you

my experience so I had to go renovate a senior center in see con we had a 1970 building that was just an office space to renovate the entire building would have been two $2 million we didn't have the budget I tried to convince the board selectman to go back to town meet and get additional funding to do it all one shot when to do it so we spent 1.2 million

on a portion of the senior center we just wrapped up the second half of the senior center which was opening up walls sheetrock some HVAC basic Renovations that you were talking about $1.7 million it cost us more money for phase two than it would have cost us to do the entire thing right so that's what I'm talking about in terms of wasting taxpayer money we cannot be shortsighted I understand

you want to get that done now but we're talking about a couple of months that would delay this we call it call it a half a year whatever the the case may be at least you get a building that would be completely done wouldn't cost as much money in the long run and then we can focus in on the other buildings that's just from my standpoint where I'm coming

from and I just and I I still think it's just not the fire department uh buildings it's you know the police department it's other other buildings throughout the city we do not maintain our our city city buildings um and that's not that's not a a slate to anybody at the table because this predates you right we've never done that we've never have had preventative maintenance uh plans in place things of

that nature we always wait for something to to fall through the cracks and and we just P Pac mail this stuff so from my standpoint I'm just trying to look at it from a cost-saving measure as well I support this and I don't want to speak for my colleagues but I I think they would support it even if it comes from two different organizations right so if we're talking about a stabilization

account if we're talking about coming out of the Enterprise fund or the operating budget if we can make it work I think we should make it work right and I think now would be the time before we start opening the doors and let's just put it out and and let the GC bid the entire project so we don't have to worry about subbing out all these various little projects it it's going to be more

cost effective that way that's just based on the my experience that I've I've had in terms of uh just the bonding I know we we talked if I may just while you're on that train thought could someone just tell me how many windows I'm trying to visualize how many windows are in that building that need to be replaced a lot it's 30 some OD on the second flooor and I believe 20 some OD

on the first floor so look at about 55 60 Windows right but just but just think the efficiency but just think about the efficiency electric I mean the heating right that goes into that so you've got windows that are not I I understand I just want get a clear view of how many windows we were talking right but well I I agree with you but what I'm saying is from my standpoint it's shortsighted

because you can the payback for Windows would probably be a lot quicker right and you have opportunities with HVAC M how old are those windows just out of curiosity are they old old or they just were they replac 10 years ago I would say in the 80s okay late early yeah late 70s early 80s I would say they were done in the 80s I so all your heat's going out the

window right right it's just that that's that's what I'm talking about that's to me it doesn't make sense and and I'm not trying to slay anybody at the table it's just my opinion and what I've experienced just from my perspective and I just want to put on the record that the cart was put way before the horse on this as far as having the number of females that are in this station working

every day um and I just think that the only reason that I'm pressing this is because there are not separate bath and shower facilities like dedicated for the number of people working in that building uh locker room facilities sleeping quarters so I just feel like it's a ticking time bomb and that's the reason that I'm pushing for this understand and and I don't I don't disagree with that but I but I think if

we had a plan saying hey we're going to do this we to doing this but we also want to include some other Renovations then I think folks would be less likely to push back on that and I I just again it comes down to planning I that that's the only thing that it comes down to so that's just my opinion on that um I I was going to ask a question on the on

the bond but I I think you answered my colleague in SE six but I just want to make sure so the original Bond was for Central Station or the steel building Ste just a steel building so you would have to are you looking to resin that Bond in order to satisfy Bond Council in terms of that's why you have the amendment in front of you so it would be amending that original order to the new

or to the new and with the new scope with the new scope okay so I mean I think that I understand what you're saying and again like I mean unfortunately there was not you know all this foresight and buildings weren't taken care of way you know everybody would have liked them to be taken care of but again I mean you know we have limited resources and we're trying to do

a lot with them and I totally understand what you're saying I don't know how much more that would add to the project and I mean we have somewhat put a moratorium on bonding outside of um absolute has to happen and this I was more comfortable with because it would be an Enterprise fund paying paying that it's not going to hit the general fund because again we do have significant um items coming into

that you know we do have another high school that we have to fit into the budget yep okay uh with that I yield thank you C con C2 you have a follow question yeah I just have one question um if you look through all the Appropriations um more often than not it let me find one specifically it's a very quick easy question um if I can find it that it refers to EMS will

initially be in the building so my question is what once this is all said and done is this your home finally it is so originally the the original order we're going to build a station and quarters and training we occupy this and yeah preco that was the the plan but now postco this this is the plan we have admin offices in City Hall we have uh Crews at the Central Station the all the

fire stations except for I believe Stanley Street and our training center is up at fire headquarters with uh the fire department and that's where it's going to remain okay it's working well okay that's good that's good I I like its home as opposed to initially and we might be moving and we might look at something else no no no this is it this is it all right thank you that I yield thank you Deb no

further questions thank you very much for coming down mot motion to refer to full Council I think it's in full Council yeah it's already there it's not ref it's at the last I believe it says referred referred with a recommendation or no motion CC recommendation is there a second motion all in favor I any opposed motion carries motion toour Finance second motion Jour has been made in seconded

all in favor any opposed motion carries City the council finance committee is now adjourned

May city councilman will come to order cler will call the Road Council kadim here Dion here Hart here Kilby here Herrera HTI here Roso here Samson here president CRA here will everyone in the council chair please rise for a moment to silent prayer

please remain standing for salute to the flag aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit this meeting to any media attendees are therefore advised that

such record ing or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and not deemed acknowledged and permissible Mr President can we take item six out of order please motion to take item six out of order has been made and seconded all in favor any opposed motion CES the item six is a citation um for the dery marching B motion to adopt second motion to adopt has been made and

seconded all in favor I any opposed motion

carries yeah you might instruments

I'd like to invite the uh director of fine and Performing Arts down and also the BMC dery High School marching band director if she is here she's not so just the director of fine and Performing Arts Mr fona is that correct it is welcome and we also have members of The BMC dery High School Marching Band as well in attendance as they're all coming in so I just want to um highlight a

excellent news piece that we had the other day um for our students from BMC dery High School um last weekend now a week and a half ago they recently won the State title for the US bands competition and just recently they also took the national title if you give me a minute just to read the article to all of us here after winning the State title last weekend the fora High School

captured a national title this weekend The Undefeated BMC dery High School marching band took home the a group one US bands Mass championship at Sten High School school last weekend on Sunday the hill Toppers took home the national us bands division 1A championship in Allentown Pennsylvania the competition was scored based on musical proficiency Ensemble music music e uh effect visual

visual effect color guard and percussion dery scored a whopping score of 96 besting their impressive State title of 92.6 they also won the caption awards for best music and best visuals a round of applause for that person and one of the reasons I filed these res this resolution this citation uh as a former member of the dery high school marching band class of 2009 I'm very very proud of all of you for all the

things you've accomplished um you know I remember those days and the band uniforms and the bus trips and all the stuff that we had to do to do these competitions and on behalf of one dery alumni and there's others in the room as well to all of you we are very proud of you to the director congratulations I'm sure you're very proud of your department as well and the students from

dery so with that said we have two resolutions because the first one was for the State title but that wasn't good enough so the clerk called me and said we should do one for the national title I said that's an excellent idea so we have two for you this evening so the first reads um be resolve the city council hereby extends his accommodation to The BMC dery High School Marching

Band to the students directors and staff for the 2425 season for winning the US us bands division 1A national champ Championship with a score of 96 probably representing the city of four in Allentown Pennsylvania on November 3rd 2024 and for winning the a group one US bands Massachusetts championship and your representation of dedication practice and teamwork be it resolved the Forest City Council extend best wishes

for your continued success and this resolution be entered into the records of the city council adopted today November 5th 2024 and just from again one band guy to another to all of you I'm very proud of all of you and I hope you can show that trophy very large and proud over the Halls on ell Street to say that music program at dery is continuing to grow it's doing great things keep up the good

work all of you and to the director congratulations thank you very much sir U is it the is it the first is it the first in the school's history it is the first it is right wow 1880 when the school was was founded 1890 1889 congratulations we were waiting for the right parents to come along and help us push through so I appreciate you all very much it means a lot to me we had a professional

development today with all of the music and art teachers in the city and we were talking about how it's such a team win most of these kids took have taken General music for a decade right so there's second grade music teachers that were um joining in the the Victory and all the way up so it's a full team effort it's practice every night it's staying up late it's getting home late

and uh you remember those days oh I do yeah so um I can't say enough about the team and uh and especially the parents that are here to support that's what makes it all happen so thank you very much I appreciate congratulations that's awesome I just want to say I don't live too far from the high school and I can hear you guys practicing at night quite often good job well done I enjoy it very

much thank you thank you congratulations five more hours congratulations thank you thank you good

job if You' like to sure you guys want to take a picture all together it's fine yeah yeah it's fine how would we do this you want to take it with us

you should come out no you're fine no you're fine no you're

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just keeping an eye on North Carolina South Carolina one of the Carol we're going to see all you guys back here next year right going to take it two in a row repeat amen get thank you congratul by the Way's no way

M Qui Mr President can we take item 3A out of order as well please 3A second what is 3A motion to take item 3A out of order has been made and seconded all in favor I I see three three a back page it's the last page for the agenda amend

after item 3A is a notice of approval of debt regarding the mass School building authority project submitted by the superintendent director of diamond Regional Vocational Technical want refer to finance second yeah Council we can't send it the finance because if you do you're going to pass the deadline on this and if if we take no action it goes into effect um so we don't have to vote for it the only

thing if you want to kill it you vote against it but you don't have to vote for it you vote for it so and we're not going to vote against it so motion go ahead councel hold on you yield councelor I yield you withdraw your motion yes I do thank you counc seat seven CC I'd like to a motion away of the rules to invite the superintendent director down to the

table please of diamond second is there a motion away the rules made second all in favor I any opposed motion carries come on down please just take your name and address for the record please good evening councilors Brian Bentley superintendent director Diamond Regional V Tech High School counc counc thank you good evening Mr Bentley nice to see you good to see you too just a a quick question so in reviewing um this

for the for this meeting this evening and I had reached out to the CFO regarding um the letter that the city council had received at this point can you give us just kind of a summary of the changes that have happened in the project and why we're at this point right now as far as the uh and the CFO uh reached out to me also to offer you an explanation uh and I'll offer you

that same one again uh the original cost of the project uh overall was $293 million plus plus plus more right the through legislation they offered more money not to expand the building but rather that this would go towards the increase in the square footage reimbursement so this is not to add to anything this is the reimbursement to the communities for Somerset Swansea and Westport what it came down to was that

there was a 1,733 686 that was allocated towards the reimbursement of this project and that was broken down to the communities with Florida receiving the Lion Share because they also Supply 76 a half% of the population of diamond Regional what it broke down to and I'll use Fall River is that originally it would have been 110 m777 n84 would have been the estimated cost but that has now been lowered by 9,718

682 so the for the net result here for the city of Fall River is that they will see a decrease of 101, 59,0 302 so by us getting more money and passing it down to again it's for that square footage reimbursement the city is realizing a net of U as I said 9 million plus dollars Somerset Swansea and Westport also uh enjoy some of that but not to the scale that Fall River is

because you have the lineon share for the diamond students of 76 what I said 5% so I know when I first read the letter I was I was even confused because I see 11 million increase and I'm like oh wait a minute and then that prompted the question so essentially can you explain a little bit I know you mentioned about the square footage but was there anything that was taken out of

the project or re added into the project at a very macro level yes when when this project was first developed in order to reach that number of 293 million we had to cut $52 million out of the project uh and we stayed on that and we're tried and true right to that uh we cannot increase the square footage because it is what it is but we had to cut out such

things as on the athletic field uh Grand stands uh ticket Gates um curbing uh things that would be at some point have to be either built bought or reim uh replenished with this additional money it allows us to put back in those things that we took out not all of them but to put in more example of turf field as opposed to what we had it does allow us to put back in a storage building that

we did have to we had to take out it allows us to put in a grand stands which for the football field uh we can now put back in so things of that nature uh they are back in and the way the letter is written I agree with you it does look like it's an increase the way that they said that was that they are increasing the amount of money that they're giving

us but it did read like they were going to increase the overall cost by $1 million so that explains that it does so it's in some ways The Best of Both Worlds where it is the city is on on the hook for less and Diamond's actually benefiting more because they're getting reimbursed more yes there was a brief luncheon meeting at Diamond uh the mayil was included um Bridget was included in

that as we're the towns of Somerset Swansea and Westport and we needed to explain it to them because they read it the same way the way we're reading it it's going to be an increase to us and we're saying no it's an increase in the reimbursement so you're actually going to pay less um we have and I proud to say this at this point we have uh gone before the town of Westport and they

approved it the town of Somerset and they approved it this was just last uh Tuesday was and most recently Swansea uh did theirs by not taking any action so I talked with Bridget there the Town Administrator and she says it passed over there too so Fall River here is hearing the good news of what it will be for a reimbursement that will benefit the citizens of Fall River okay and and

just for clarification on the on the packet we were provided on this the PowerPoint I believe that you had seen is this timeline still accurate has this timeline shifted at all because of it has not uh they we had a meeting last night of the school building uh committee that diamond has and the are on target for the transition will happen June of 26 throughout that Summer with the doors opening in September of

26 once that we are take occupancy of the building then the demolition of the existing Diamond Regional will take place in order to make way for the athletic fields okay excellent that's that's good news um I just want to make a side comment Mr Bentley not directed toward you per se but I I just want to note that one of the things I did ask was the letter was dated October 15th and it's

stamped as received November 1st which was a little complicated for I guess for me um and I'm not exactly sure what happened to be honest but um it's good that this we're in a situation where this is actually good news for us where it's not kind of a last minute bad news type of situation um but I just wanted to note that CU I did reach out to the clerk and we had a conversation about it

with she was very good about clarifying where what everything happened so um but that's just an aside because I I got caught off guard by it completely um but I'm I'm happy with the news Mr Bentley um I'm glad everything's going well and uh looking forward to we're very happy with the news too absolutely and I think the council for the continued support I appreciate it with that I yield Mr

President what would they appropriate yeah I just wanted the clerk to explain what happened with the confusion with the dates please so the letter that's dated October 15th was was never received by the council office or the city clerk's office so we received it through the mayor's office and that's why it's dated on November November 1st I just want to say I never received the letter yeah that that and that was my

point of why I refer it to finance because that that's makes that makes me agitated because uh I just this is filed after the agenda I received the email I think today possibly I didn't read it you know it was today I was busy so you know I saw it on my desk it's that's right um yeah so I'm I'm glad it's good news Andrew reposo councel proposal articulated my thoughts as well so but

hey thank you for the Flor yeah and and just I just want to make it clear that it's I'm not in no way blaming the clerks the ladies up front here um you know and that's that was one of the pieces I wanted to ask and I spoke to to Lauren about it earlier today to get that clarification to make sure um you know I don't think it's the fault of any

of us sitting here about how the letter ended up so just wanted to clarify that with that I yield thank you counc C coun Samson I just have a question um so we're gonna potentially save um thank you council president let me just say that 9 million we're going to save 9 million and that that's going to go back to the taxpayers is that going to go back to Diamond to do you

can you can apply the 9 million plus dollars that you see in front of you you can apply that towards the assessments uh when we put out the assessment you can use that to lower the assessment uh that will come from the city of forever so but um so when you said because of this you you're able to do some of the stuff that you weren't able to do before is that out of that 9

million or no that we had always planned to get it back in this $9 million allows us to get it back in uh in a more timely fashion we had the 52 million we cut out uh we'll never get all 52 million back in yes okay we are getting a portion of what we cut back into the project while keeping it under the new figure which is 35 million uh just close my book on

myself here I should know it I've heard it and said it enough times long 305 yep so 305 million so minus 9 or that's including the minus 9 million that includes the that includes the minus 9 okay the original was three uh the original uh that was there was 299 it's now up to 305 the original for uh the city of Fall River well the estimated cost was 14 144 million it's now been

lowered down to 132 and then when it's broken out for the city of for River it goes from 110 million down to 101 million which is now when assessments come out to the city of for River for the students that are at Diamond it'll be based on that figure added into whatever the other budget is so and again spread out over 30 years maybe I'll be retired again I council president thank you Mr B

did you say you took out the ticket booth the ticket booth was taken out because when the sports uh Mr President when we had to cut out the $52 million they were considered to be peripherals and not necessary for the project an athletic field yes but the other uh extraneous such as stands ticket booth uh we were looking at bathrooms uh things of that nature they were not considered to be essential so we had to

find a way to try to get that back in kids will build it I know the kids at the cry Department could build that ticket put in about two days they they probably could they're very talented have multiple stories on it too yes Council seat s going to follow yeah just to follow Mr Bentley yes it's more of a curiosity but I think it applies to this um I know there's been a lot of

conversation about emissions policies in the state regarding vocational schools if if anything were to change does it necessarily change the percent of four of our students going to not the charter that was corre the charter was established when when 1963 When Diamond broke ground to create the Regional School District uh and the charter was established at that time based on the populations that is still in existence

today so regardless no matter what it is the CH will be upheld straight through okay I yeld thank you Mr B motion to accept and place on five seconds motion accept and place on five made second all in favor any opposed motion carries thank you very much for coming thank very much for your time thank you and good luck with the project Greg M CLK so we have a communication from the mayor and an order appropriating

$8,600 um from the community preservation act funds for CPA historic preservation funds for the removal of the facade of the Maritime Museum motion to adopt second motion adopt as a made and seconded on the motion count SE 7 I'm just curious on this particular item the $78,000 doeses this reopen The Maritime Museum or is just a piece of a piece of what needs to be done to reopen

The Maritime Museum do we do we know the answer to that I don't we can find out for are you the director I am the chief operating officer will will it open it up or is it just piece of it this is right now the building's closed safety issues

thank you so it will open up once this is done is that correct it will reopen just it I I couldn't hear him that's why I wanted to clarify okay thank you I yield thank you motion has been made in second all in favor I I any opposed motion carries item two is a communication from the mayor and submitted bid proposals for the former Frank msia elementary school at 138 Hartwell Street motion theer the

committee on real estate second second motion for committee has made in seconded on the motion count in seat seven sorry I'm full of questions tonight how many do we know how many bids we've received for the Sy school at this point two two two okay thank you I yield motion seconded all in favor I do you want to come hold on I think that I entertain a motion away the rules the

rules motion with those made in second all in favor I any opposed motion carries thank you surely um so I would actually before and I know the vot's been taken I apologize but I would V yet withdraw the vote hasn't been taken yet all right thank you Mr President I would ask to withdraw this uh so we could rebid the matter um Council Dion uh noticed an issue with the bids that does invalidate the bids

um the way in which this is supposed to be done is that the price proposal needs to be sealed um and that the the actual development proposal is uh evaluated by the bid committee it is deemed to be advantageous or not advantageous to the city and then the price is revealed uh because the price is uh very clearly in one of them I didn't catch it I can't

believe it um what we have is we have a process that is um flawed I've done quite a bit of research this afternoon trying to figure out if there was a way to cure that defect and there really is not so I would ask to withdraw and uh allow us to rebid so that it is an appropriate bid process and that there is no way anybody could question it all right I'll withdraw my motion and

make a motion to table leave to withdraw leave to withdraw for that matter motion and give the item leave to withdraw motion to give the leave to withdraw has been made and seconded all in favor thank you thank you quick have the traffic commission recommending amendments to the ordinances refer the committee on ordinances motion refer the committee on ordinance and legislation has been made

in seconded all in favor I any opposed motion carries have a miscellaneous traffic ordinance for Passage through second reading and enrollment motion made second motion passor second reading and enrollment has been made and seconded all in favor I any opposed motion carries we have a uh proposed ordinance for Passage through second reading and enrollment this would amend the salary

schedule um that addresses the salary of the Board of Elections commissioner SL director of Elections motion will be to pass through second reading and enrollment sorry should be pay attention the microphone please motion to pass the item through second reading and enrollment second motion to pass through second reading enrollment has been made and seconded on the motion cy6 Council yeah I just want

to ver uh to to clarify an item here um at the prior meeting I voted against this to go through its first reading uh mainly due to the fact that I wanted to get a clear understanding about which department heads are contracted and which ones are in ordinance um and so I've had some further discussion some further research I did speak to uh some members in City Hall so I'm going to be

voting in favor of this item this time around um I didn't have all the information available to me at that time so with that being said I just want to clarify the reason that I'm changing my boat because information has been changed and there's a number of department heads that are contracted more than I thought I wasn't sure if this was a special exclusion there was multiples so I just wanted to make that

item clear I Yi thank you thank you Council motion has been made and seconded roll call roll

call for Passage through second reading enrollment council is kadim yes Dion no Hart yes Kilby yes Pereira Pony yes raposo no Samson yes president C yes motion carries item seven is a citation for the celebration of her 92nd birthday for Maria K alus motion to adopt second motion to adopt as remain second all in favor I I any opposed motion carries we have the order granting permission to

Peter Browns for removal of 8 ft of curbing at 170 last Street motion to adopt second motion to adopt has been made in second all in favor I any opposed motion carries have the order granting permission to Bristol County Homes Incorporated for the removal of 26 ft of curbing at 800 to Ball Street motion to adopt second motion to adopt as made all fav Sor motion to ad second call no and I apologize the Cur is

removed from 552 Bowen Street and Hick Street yeah property un is that de um motion to adopt on the motion to adopt councilor kadim yes Dion yes Hart yes Kilby yes Pereira Pony abstain reposo adopt yes I know what I'm saying and Samson yes and president yes motion carries item 10 is an autog Grand in permission to Tyler Carrero for the removal of 8 ft of curbing at 116 gyon street motion to adopt second motion to

adopt has seconded all in favor I any opposed motion carries have the police chief's report on licenses motion to adopt motion to adopt has made is there a second second second all in favor any opposed motion carries 12a is the in order requesting that the city engineer prepare plans for the acceptance of Bert Street extending from New Boston Road southernly to its Terminus motion to refer the planning

board motion to refer 12a and 12b to the planning board has been made second and second all in favor I any opposed motion carries have a number of claims M Madam cler do we need to take those separately or is that was that accept that read it but it's up to you you want to read it if you don't mind thank you B is the acceptance of May Street from Pine Street to Cherry Street okay thank

youc item 13 would be claims refer Corporation coun Mo motion to refer The Corporation Council has made in second all in favor I any opposed motion carries item 14 is the Civil engineer's request to open a street less than five years at 40 Frederick Street as a point of information he said it it's acceptable to do he he's the one who's WR the city engineer is the one who is asint he's making the

request he's making the request yes thank you motion to approve second motion to approve the made in second all in favor I I any opposed motion carries we have a drain layer application motion to approve second motion to approve that a made in second all in favor I any opposed motion carries have minutes of the zoning board of appeals um which occurred on September 19th motion to accept and place on file second again

motion to accept accept and place on file has been made and second it all in favor I I any opposed motion carries motion to take 17 through 21 together second motion to take item 17 through through 21 has been made and seconded can you read item 17th 21 minut just we have sure we have minutes of the public hearing held on October 22nd committee on Finance on October 22nd committee on Finance on October

30th regular meeting of City Council on October 22nd and special meeting of the city council held on October 30th motion has been made second take together motion to favor I any opposed motion carries motion to approve 17 approve item 17 through 21 has made seconded all in favor I any opposed motion carries the committee on real estate at a meeting held on November 5th voted unanimously to recommend that the

accompanying order be adopted with vice president Pereira absent and not voting this is the transfer of three Parcels held as tax possessions to the warer water board motion to adopt second motion to adopt as a made and seconded all in favor I any opposed motion carries the committee on finance at a meeting held on November 5th voted unanimously to recommend that the accompanying loan order be referred to

the full Council for Action this would be the loan order for the construction of buildings to store EMS equipment motion to adop total amount will be $3,200,000 $200,000 motion to adopt has a made and seconded all in favor on a motion sorry one um so I'm just not going to be supporting this for the sole reason I think the complete Renovations for centa Central fire station should be included

so just for the record you got motion has it made in second and all in favor I I see one opposed oppos motion carries um Mr President we have a brief recess to sign the ordinances city council recess for 2 minutes

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city council reconvene Qui the last two items we have would be the ordinances for Passage through their final ordination the first is miscellaneous traffic ordinance motion so made motion made second ex seconded we need a roll call or we good all in favor I any opposed motion carries and the second would be the um Amendment to the salary ordinances that relates to the um director of The Board of Elections

motion to pass through finalin seconded motion is made and seconded roll call roll call what's the last one passes be ordained for the salar oh salary salar on Passage through final ordination council is kadim yes Dion no Hart yes Kilby yes Pereira ponti yes raposo no Samson yes president CRA yes that's all we have motion to adjourn motion to adjourn second all in favor oppos motion carries

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