The Fall River Licensing Board convened on Wednesday, July 27th, at 5:30 PM, chaired by Tim McCoy. The meeting addressed several licensing applications and a significant show cause hearing. The Libra Club was granted three one-day all-alcohol permits for its annual feast on September 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, 2022, with proceeds benefiting local charities. China Style, a restaurant at 101 President Ave, received approval for its restaurant license and the appointment of Win as its new manager, with operating hours set for Tuesday through Sunday, 11 AM to 9 PM. Pete DiLorenzo's Class 2 auto sales license was approved for a name change from Apex Auto Sales to GNN Auto Sales, citing confusion with another company. Iced Out Pub, represented by Attorney Arthur Frank and Crystal DeRosa, secured an entertainment license for various activities including a jukebox, recorded music, live music, and karaoke, for operation Tuesday through Saturday, 11 AM to 2 AM. Domingos Camara was approved as the new manager for Our Lady Light Band Club. Neon Beverage, represented by Attorney Thomas Killorn and Kyle Roberge, received approval for the transfer of a package store wine and malt beverages license at 155 Stafford Road, with Kyle Roberge also approved as manager. MP Brewing Company, doing business as Can Heat, was granted a Farmer Series Pouring Permit and an entertainment license to add a jukebox, with Ryan Adam Manchester approved as manager. The most substantial discussion centered on a show cause hearing for Mickey Doyle's Inc. at 380 Rhode Island Avenue, owned by Brian Andre. Police testimony detailed numerous calls for service, including assaults, disturbances, drug activity, and a double overdose, citing a lack of cooperation from staff and issues with overserved patrons and parking lot control. Brian Andre acknowledged some issues, stating he had fired an uncooperative bouncer and was willing to work with police. The board voted 3-0 to impose a 28-day suspension of Mickey Doyle's license, effective August 3rd to August 31st, and required a written plan for improvements by August 17th. The board also approved the May 25th, 2022 minutes and adjusted the August meeting date from the 17th to the 24th.
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meeting to order uh this meeting of the four river licensing board it is 5 30 wednesday july 27th i am uh required to meet the open uh read the open meeting law pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any media attendees are therefore advised that such recordings and transmissions are being made whether perceived or
0:30unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible if i could remind everybody too to please either silence or turn off your cell phones okay once again then uh my name is tim mccoy chairman uh referring to our agenda uh and i believe copies are available for anyone who needs a copy but we have item number one uh citizens import uh if anybody would like to make any sort of a public comment
1:06prior to us dealing with our business i just ask you to state your name and address into the microphone so is anybody here interested in uh participating in citizens input saying no one uh we'll go to item number two one day permit it looks like we have the libra club at 20 star street how are you sir if you could please state your name and address my name is kevin palmer 1235 president avenue fall river
1:43hi mr palmer and it looks like i can see here from the folder we're looking for three one day permits for your feast yes your yearly feast it looks like we have september 2nd september 3rd and september 4th i just need some help this is a it's an all alcohol yes all alcohol and obviously we have our food which we always have um is there anything you'd like to state for the record
2:10uh no i mean it's thank god it's been good um for information for you and the committee um all the chat all the money after expenses that we raise goes back to local charities it all stays within the confines of fall river we don't donate to national charities uh catholic memorial home our sister's place for emergency management citizens for citizens that kind and just last year was over seven thousand dollars
2:42and over the course of the feast we figured close to three hundred thousand dollars coming back into the city of fall river thank you with the board i'd like to entertain emotion or the support of any oh i'm sorry uh obviously we've read the dates what are the hours kevin uh friday night 6 to 11 um sunday 12 to 11 and saturday 11 to 11.
3:11i always get sunday wrong thank you sir with the any committee members have any questions for mr uh palmer otherwise uh entertain a motion i'll make a motion to approve the one day permits for september 2nd september 3rd september 4th and it's all this year 20 years 22. i'll second the most motion made by uh mrs esposito seconded by ms cadero all in favor hi motion carries good luck sir pray for good weather yes yes
3:50uh section three um please if anyone's here correct me if i'm wrong but i believe we have um 3a is not going to be present then is off the agenda uh do we have anyone here for 3b okay 3b is also off the agenda uh next item 3c looks like china style 101 president ave if you don't speak english well can i be the translator of course if you could state
4:20maybe both your names and addresses if you don't mind my name my name is paul chan i was the owner of the owner of china star and he's the uh the new owner okay can you state his name and address yeah his name is my name is and what's your address what's his address on 921 north main street 921 north main street yep okay and would you would you on his behalf if you're gonna
4:51have somebody if he could state his business here what is he applying for publicly can i just say that for him absolutely oh okay yeah he's applying for a restaurant china star on president avenue okay and with the gentleman can you ask him would he be the restaurant manager uh yes he will be the restaurant manager okay have any alterations been made to the site no everything remain the same can you give
5:20us the internal seating capacity will people be dining inside uh yes they're going to be around 30 seats 30 seats 36 yep
5:37no you're not he's not applying for any sort of an alcohol license today right no uh and could you also sir um i'm sorry i lost my training could he state his hours of operation oh yeah monday to sunday closed anytime close monday it's gonna be around in future it's gonna be around like 11 to nine close monday close monday but could you ask him to is he opening at 11 in the morning and
6:05can we get a definitive answer from him please for now
6:18okay now the hours right now the hour is 3 30 to 9 o'clock okay close monday but in in near future and he's going to open 11 o'clock okay so in the morning so i need to know so so if he's staying closed monday i'm assuming tuesday to friday will be the same ask him what do you want is it going to be eleven to nine i need i need
6:40you to ask him that i'll state that one okay it's going to open 11 to 1 to 9. 11 to 9. yep now what about the weekend saturday and sunday is that going to be the same please ask him that i'm not giving him we saw injuries thought you your name yes okay yeah every day is going to be saying just monday we'll close monday close monday tuesday to sunday 11 to 9.
7:09yes okay and uh would we have any questions reporter feedback from frp negative or positive in the cover letter okay thank you so much um with okay so i think we should probably um let's entertain two more motions so i'm suggesting this to the colleagues we recommend uh an approval on the application and also recognize this gentleman mr winn as the restaurant manager so why don't we have
7:55suggesting two motions yep i'll make a motion to approve the common particular license for a china star and i'll second that motion uh motion made by miss kadero seconded by mrs esposito all those in favor motion passes and then i'll also make a motion uh for a change of manager if you're trying to stop it and i'll second that motion motion made by mrs cadeiro seconded by mrs uh esposito all those in favor aye aye
8:23motion passes thank you so much good luck with everything you're welcome okay item number four class two license how are you sir if you could identify yourself and please give your address sure uh pete dilorenzo 5 leanne drive johnston rhode island hi mr d lorenzo and you're before us can you state your your business today yeah i already have an active license at this facility as
8:55apex auto sales and i'm looking just to do a name change to jnn a g n rev excuse me and the reason why is because apex auto sales is already filed with secretary of state in hudson massachusetts another company i was an out of state llc then it started getting a little bit confusing where the dmv was getting our stuff confused and then even the auctions were getting our stuff confused
9:18we were getting bills from them and vice versa so i contacted the secretary of state asked their suggestions they said we really just do a name change get away from it and file so i already filed a new name with the secretary of state already did the bond with the secretary of state um the new ein with the secretary of state so on and so forth so it's just a name change i'm not looking
9:36for a new license number or anything like that okay do you think you can just briefly refresh the board's memory how many cars you have i'm assuming there's an office on site yeah there's an office on site there's 10 cars i believe on the licenses for 10. um nothing's changing as far as that aspect of it okay and no hourly change no no nothing just just rebranding that's all i do want to let
9:55the board know that we do have a uh positive recommendation from chief gauvin yep yep would the board like to entertain a motion on this gentleman's application yes i'll make a motion to approve the class 2 license with the new name thank you gnn auto sales appreciate it i'll second the motion motion made by mrs esposito seconded by miss cadero all those in favor aye motion passes thanks thank you peter good luck
10:24tomorrow next week thank you so much have a nice night all right next on our agenda is an application uh for an entertainment license attorney frank if you can lay it out for us here please certainly mr chairman and good evening good members of the board zayash detective camp alone for the record my name is arthur frank i'm a lawyer with an address of 209 bedford street fall river of massachusetts with me is
10:57miss crystal de rosa she's the president of nicole de rosa inc doing business as iced out pub we were before this board last month with the board approved a transfer of a restaurant license the client subsequently told me that she'd like to have some entertainment so we filed the request for entertainment as you can see she contemplates a jukebox some recorded music including dancing by
11:26patrons possibly live music including dancing by patrons and karaoke she's asked for hours of operation that will track the restaurant operations which be tuesday through sunday eleven to two uh she's with me if you have any specific questions as to operations okay so we're looking at tuesday and sunday through sunday tuesday through sunday monday closed entertainment license for jukebox recorded music
12:04live music or karaoke 11 a.m to 2 a.m sunday they have to get their entertainment license upstairs the mayor's office okay so is it fair to say attorney frank that we should amend this request tuesday through saturday on the recommendation of the clerk yeah i'll make i'll make the correction if you want me to initial it will initially okay i'm just gonna i'm gonna need you to initial this with kerry but i'm just
12:33gonna write in saturday here with the potential of sunday to be applied for at the mayor's office uh this is not a uh an issue where we typically have a weigh-in from the fall river pd or chief garvin um we did have you had any interaction with your neighbors things it's all been positive okay yeah people keep asking when she's going to open i explained to her what the process is we recently were contacted by the
13:08investigator at the abcc there was one or two pieces of paper he wanted we've since sent those up i have not heard yet from from the abcc and i don't think miss miss ash has heard from them this was for the application from last month yeah i'm assuming right yeah that process okay um board have any questions i would like again when we have something like this i'd like to ask if
13:37we have any proponents or opponents to this request in the audience um just something i kind of feel more comfortable in doing but i don't see anyone here in response to that would the board like to entertain uh the chair would entertain a motion from my i'll colleagues a motion to approve the uh entertainment license for iced out pub for tuesday through saturday and i'll second the motion motion made in uh
14:10by ms cadero seconded by mrs esposito all those in favor aye the eyes have it thank you thank you you're welcome yeah please thanks alfa i just crossed off with saturday thanks attorney frank appreciate it
14:43okay our next item uh looks to be item number six change of manager our lady light band club sir if you could in the microwave uh how are you in the microphone please state your name and address welcome domingo's camaro 461 smith street hi mr camara and it looks like you will be who was the previous manager the previous manager was um gabby i can't remember her last name off
15:13the top of my head okay yeah um are we making any changes to the physical site itself any changes of hours no no changing um how about our so our lady of a lady of light band i believe you have kind of the club membership the club bar on one side and the function hall yes can i get just get the approximate the seating capacity on the bar side the member side on the bar side roughly
15:4735 all right we don't expect any alterations no to that um i do want to i do want to uh let the board know that we do not have any objection from the uh from the fall river police department and detective uh camp alone so um again the chair would entertain a motion from the board unless you have some uh questions for mr camaro no i have no question questions i'll make a
16:17motion to approve the change of manager i'll motion made uh by mrs esposito seconded by ms cadero all those in favor aye aye the eyes have it thank you very much application approved good luck thank you thank you next item for business it looks like we have transfer package store beer and wine license neon beverage
16:55either yourself or through your attorney or both please identify yourself and give an address certainly uh good evening mr chairman members of the board attorney thomas killorn representing the applicant with me tonight is kyle roberge who is listed as the manager on the application as the chairman stated we're here tonight for the transfer of a package store license beer i'm sorry wine and malt beverages
17:21property is located at 155 stafford road it's known as the maple maplewood super rat so we're looking to transfer the license from the existing owners over to neon beverage we proposed hours of operation would be sunday through saturday sunday 10 a.m to 1 a.m for sales and monday through saturday 9 a.m to 1am that's agreeable with this board we'd be happy to oh hold on i'm sorry i thought you meant restaurant they're
17:54not going to allow a 1am on a package store 11 is the latest then eleven how's that missing so sunday ten to eleven and then uh monday through saturday nine to eleven yes please okay attorney clauren uh i'm somewhat familiar with the maplewood super red although it's been a while doing any changes to the property any significant renovations nothing's nothing significant uh there may be some
18:27sprucing up on the interior but uh in terms of the overall layout um nothing uh significant got it okay i'm sorry i wanted to state that mr roberge is tip certified he got a certification two months ago we anticipate that he'd be at the property approximately 40 hours per week okay can you identify mr bacon's role in this mr bacon is the principal of neon beverage um he will not be there on the
18:58day-to-day operations but he is the owner of the llc he's a 100 owner okay so uh do we have any again i'm gonna ask if we have any proponents or opponents in the in the crowd and i see we have none do would any of my colleagues like to ask any questions no i have no questions may i suggest again just to cover all our bases that we took entertained two motions
19:27the uh the transfer itself and am i pronouncing corrected mr roberge as the manager i'll make a motion uh to approve the transfer of the package store beer and wine license to neon beverage am i second that motion so motion made by miss cadero seconded by mrs esposito all those in favor aye aye motion passes and i'll also make a motion for the change of manager to mr roberge and i'll second that motion motion made
20:05by ms scadero seconded by mrs esposito all those in favor aye motion passes good luck thank you very much you're welcome thank you carrie i'm sorry item number eight on the agenda uh this is a first for me although again considering i've not been on the board all that long but we have a transfer of farmers series pouring permit slash entertainment mp brewing company dba can heat 52 ferry street christopher j
20:40martin jr this is the first for all of us there's never been one train put it on the record first for me attorney celino welcome i'm assuming mr martin if i could get no sorry curve ball for you this is very bold okay so this is the proposed manager his legal name is ryder ryan adam manchester okay i did see his name in the file could i have an address for mr
21:05manchester 159 windsor street fall river massachusetts okay and then you sir will obviously correct me if i'm wrong but just to get this off off the ground from what i understand i believe this is an additional license to go from selling either wholesale to industry and businesses to now serving individuals that's exactly what it is okay so factually take the ball certainly factually my client received a farmer
21:30brewery license on june 21 2022 that license authorizes the production of 5000 barrels or less annually of beer which enables my client to sell to restaurants or package stores what it doesn't allow is the pouring of a single drink in the establishment if you wanted to come in for a beer so carrie and i had a conference call with the abcc to ask how to handle this and they told us to handle it as a transfer
21:59so the petition before you is a transfer the financial terms of the transfer have already occurred so mr sacramony told us to leave that empty and what ultimately we are asking for is for a pouring permit as a supplement or ancillary to the farmer brewery license and an entertainment license okay so we have two requests supporting permit correct entertainment license correct and then i would suggest a third
22:32identifying uh it's mr manchester correct that is correct manager he is manager yes would my colleagues have oh i think that he has some already right yes it does i believe yeah so i think the only add-on is jukebox all right so again for notification of the folks that yeah there's a current live entertainment but not jukebox okay so on that particular portion of the application we're only adding
23:11jukebox to an existing that's correct entertainment license that's correct um does the board have any questions anyone in the crowd for or against this particular application which is technically two hearing none could i also sure um talk about hours sure um so my clients are requesting if this pouring permit is allowed obviously that changes the type of business that they have yep so the request here is
23:43monday tuesday wednesday and thursday four to nine friday four to one saturday 12-1 sunday 12-9 12-9 yes okay so just so reiterate i got monday to thursday four to nine correct friday four to one saturday 12 to 1 sunday 12 to 9 p.m correct
24:14very well do my colleagues have any questions at this point if you're ready to take action the chair would entertain a motion i'll make a motion to approve the transfer of the farmer series pouring permit thank you motion made by mrs esposito seconded by miss cadero all those in favor aye aye motion passes and i'll make a motion to approve the entertainment for the jukebox thank you i'll second the motion made by ms
24:45esposito seconded by miss cadero all those in favor aye aye third item please on the bar manager and i'll make a motion to approve the bar manager mr manchester mr manchester motion paid by mrs esposito seconded by miss gudero all those in favor aye motion carries good luck thank you very much thank you thanks attorney celino ryan good luck thank you very very very very very quickly i'd
25:17like to if this board would assist me in taking new business just very quickly out of order with old i'd like to just get our august meeting scheduled typically we meet on the third wednesday of the month in august there are five wednesdays in the month of august and i'm suggesting that we move back from the 17th to the 24th if my colleagues would be willing to agree to that
25:48i'll make a motion if we need i'm not sure if we need one but sure sure so motion made by mrs cadarro to move from the 17th to 24th of august and now second invite mrs esposito all those in favor aye okay since we're on no business anyone here and i don't think we do but anyone here with any new business before the board would have any of my colleagues with any new business or suggestion
26:12all right i thank you for indulging me let's revert back to old business item 9a we have a show cause hearing mickey doyle's incorporated 380 rhode island avenue brian andrew owner i believe manager mr andrew could you please state your name and address yeah brian andre i own mickey dolls at 380 barrel now thank you mr andrew for being here so i am going to briefly briefly uh read a synopsis
26:46uh into the record uh this synopsis is was put together by our police liaison detective camp alone and she states that with investigation there have been uh to and this this report is uh let me see this report is dated the 16th of this year there have been 10 calls of service in the past 60 days to the establishment 21 calls for service since january 1 2022. the calls have ranged from assault and battery bodily
27:25injury disturbance with fights overly intoxicated patrons where the establishment needed assistance in removing cars spinning tires properties stolen from the bar bouncer unable to control the crowd clear out the establishment vandalism to the property in the lot and the surrounding areas there is a detailed synopsis of the most recent reports uh on that particular uh narrative and then that was followed
27:56up because of a obviously that was completed and if i could stay picking up on june 23 2022 uh we have uh additional instances uh and it appears on thursday june 23rd 2022 we had a an incident with a male victim who had been stabbed june 6 2022 there was response for an assault and battery in progress may 29 2022 at 1 10 a.m we have a call uh from the bouncer at the establishment
28:36may 22nd 2022 2 20 uh a.m uh crowd of folks in the in the parking lot at this point um with a uh male and female arguing high level of of screaming um i was asked by detective campolone to at least ensure that these matters get into the record so the first thing i'm going to do is ask the detective if there's anything of a specific nature that she would like me to add um
29:15our most recent one there was a double overdose on july 23rd 2020 too july 23rd so that would be four days ago yep okay and um next i do see that we have uh responding officers um if those are potent i shouldn't say i shouldn't make an assumption if we have any officers who have any uh information would like to add any information if they have any personal knowledge of incidents responded if
29:51they'd like to go through their reports or contribute anything to today's show cause hearing i'm asking you to please step forward and identify yourself hi i'm officer pleist with the pharaoh police department officer i do need you to speak into the microphone i know i can hear you but again for those viewing officer price the florida police department thank you officer um speak freely i've responded uh
30:22several times to mickey doyle's especially in this past year every time i went there i've got very little cooperation from staff one particular incident i went there for a female that was assaulted by a male she went to the hospital i got a call well before i got this call i um i spoke with the bouncer there mr downes he stated he didn't see anything he was in the parking lot didn't see what
30:51happened i went to the bartenders they said well we didn't see what happened i went to um mr andrade he said i didn't see what happened he was extremely intoxicated at this point i asked him if i could review the camera footage he said sorry there's no camera footage um pretty much tried to every way to investigate this crime of this female being assaulted by this male i found out later on that shift that
31:19this female's jaw was broken in three places this female had called me back the next day informing me that her friends had actually come forward that were in the bar provided the identity of this mail and also informed her that as we were arriving staff escorted this mail out of the back door um so she also informed me that this mail was back at mickey doyle's that night and i was currently working
31:49so we arrived back myself and officer cummings he went to the front door i went to the back officer cummings is at the front door mr downs the bouncer is telling officer cummings no he's not here i've never seen this mail before i come through the back door i see the mail at the bar um he gives me a hard time he's not giving me his name was can i see your id
32:13he says i don't have an id i asked him well how are you drinking without an id he says okay i'm kevin it was his name so i said okay go to arrest him now mr downs knows the mail mr down says oh he wasn't here he was in new york yesterday clearly making it known that he knows this mail and we arrested mr downes we also went for another incident to mickey doyle's after closing hours
32:40to look for this this same mail um when i approached the door mr andrade was at the door i asked mr andre hey is mr alexander here he said his full name and then said yes let us in the bar and mr alexander was there with a drink at about 2 15 a.m um i've this is just one of the many incidents i've been there um i go there the parking lot of mass there's people
33:10screaming people we've pulled up there four or five of us and they'll be fighting right in front of us clearly overserved clearly highly intoxicated i believe that overdose incident that you referenced too while we were on scene there patrons are yelling at us interfering with us doing our job as we have two people there who are overdosing so my main concern is this there's obviously uh no control over the patrons
33:40at this bar um every time i went there highly overserved no one really in control of the situation um other than that that's pretty much my main concerns thank you all the supplies price any of our colleagues have a question for officer place thank you sir any uh would any other representative of frpd like to speak officer please offer your name sergeant michael hidaya for police department thank you sergeant
34:25uh as was previously mentioned on regards to the stabbing that took place on the 23rd of june i was a north end sergeant at that time i assisted the south end sergeant with the investigation which involved uh validated gang members that were involved in the stabbing at this location right in front of the uh the parking lot was where the crime scene was officer felicia mello was also part of that investigation as well
34:49based on officer place's testimony here today and obviously his responses and other call volume responses myself and sergeant william platt were assigned to conduct surveillance in the parking lot uh which time i notated our observations which were several hand-to-hand transactions involving drug involved individuals to include the doorman mr downes who engaged in hand-to-hand exchange with drug activity with
35:16drug-involved individuals in the parking lot a u-haul had pulled up at one point patrons had come out and urinated outside in the parking lot on the side of the u-haul gone back into the establishment there was several individuals in the back at approximately 2 15 a.m in the back of the business where the rear door is there was one individual that appeared to be a lookout and there was
35:39other individuals placing things inside of a trunk quickly took off there was cars spinning tires there were people playing loud music in the parking lot they would come in and out of the establishment remain in the parking lot for approximately 40 minutes at a time blaring loud music driving really fast inside the parking lot um it was really out of control the double uh double overdose i was a
36:03south end sergeant at the time two individuals were at the uh the front walkway adjacent to the front door of the business both overdosing one agonally breathing needed narcan to come come to while that was happening we observed several validated gang members walking into and coming out of mickey doyle's to include two of a motorcycle club involved with hell's angels and also a rival
36:34motorcycle club gang member who was also present at naked doyle's wearing full colors um so obviously with the escalating violence with rival gang members including motorcycle clubs that seems to be happening now within our city providence and other areas of rhode island that's a huge concern for us thank you such and would any of my colleagues have a question no questions thank you sergeant would any other members
37:10of frpd like to offer um any statements testimony one way or another okay um mr andrew before i ask for any individuals who may want to speak in your behalf i'll give you the floor if you choose to make a statement yeah of course as far as me not cooperating with the police i've always collaborated police i have several reports with several police members they've passed details i've always asked
37:46the details when while asking my awesome shot of retired officer mello petrol that they helped me out um put in place what was supposed to be doing on our end and i always thought we did that as far as the other boundary they're talking about that was not cooperative he's no longer with my bar anymore nobody told me he was not being cooperative with the police i've always been i can't give camera uh
38:11videos because mine's burnt out and since cove and i'm still struggling um i still have some details every friday saturday no one's taking them sam i called sandra she suggested making an hour later because i didn't get all and come to my bar i said sure that's fine and then when i fell behind on bills i paid my bills i said i'll prepay if need be i'll have two details if need be every weekend
38:38i admit my best asset and my worst asset is my parking lot it's a commercial block loan most fridays and saturdays there'll be five cars with people who are banned from my car who are not allowed in there i'll go out there and go out there 10 people telling them they need to leave they don't care cops will be right there in the back of the parking lot and they still refuse to
38:57leave so it's like at what point what am i supposed to do like call the cops you're damned if you do damn you don't i'm trying to be proactive i've always worked with the cops i canceled entertainment on the weekends as like a month ago but i mean after they talk about josh downes i didn't know he was being cheated with them i it would be nice if he can communicate and he can say hey
39:21you know this guy personally i'm like no i mean i wasn't getting details the guys built like ray lewis from the ravens and doesn't drink so all right i put him out of my door i'll see a mistake but i work with foreign police like a lot of friends on the police department so as far as my my you know they're saying i'm ruining the neighborhood i still live in the same neighborhood for 45 years
39:43and let's be real maplewood to make whatever is still probably the safest ever in the city um would any of my colleagues before i open it up when any of my colleagues have any uh questions or comments from mr andrew i got politicians cops hanging there can't be that bad if heads of banks hang in there it's like i know my boss not perfect but this is forever i mean there was murders
40:12at two other bars in the city and i don't think they got shut down for a single minute how you know how am i from about when somebody got shot outside of another um i got to be honest with you just the the the one comment that i mean the one fact that seems to stick out like a sore throat i mean something clearly happens post midnight because and that's where and i don't
40:37know if there's ever been any sort of consideration of changing hours or whatever but every bar in the city closes nine ten o'clock now instead they wrecked hours we lock our doors at one even though we got a two o'clock so we're getting every bar in the city that they don't they want to close at nine o'clock they're coming to our bottom but i mean someone one of the arrests that they
40:56have in in the report this lady hasn't been in my bar in a year they said i overserved she hasn't been in my body here how can we how can we serve the lady who comes at the end they come at the end of their night last day of music drink and then they won't leave and one of them got arrested she's not even allowed my father um would any like i'm willing to work with
41:17fbi tv anybody i mean i often need details for the pokemon i don't want people hanging in the park i don't like loitering would um would any members of the uh any any spectators here say something because you haven't been on the boardwalk enough to know the biggest issue the board has is when the licensee is not cooperative with the police department and from what we've heard from the
41:46police that's the biggest issue so i think that needs to be brought up john always brought that up were they cooperative correct terry i've never been not cooperative with them and when he said i came it was my night off when i came out the other night when that girl got her jaw shattered uh witnesses said that she turned into a patron that was mine his own business punched him and called him the animal
42:10like they don't have that not that anybody should be getting hit at all but but they they're testifying that they don't feel like they're getting the support well i'm sitting here willing to work with them i i just talked to any other cops on a had done my details before easy details no issues i mean also i shot a lot of all people used to take my details every every week
42:35i'm just going to say something quickly i just think that you're saying it's july i don't know 28th and now you're saying you're going to cooperate with the players i've always cooperated i just it doesn't just i mean like he just said you could have closed a little earlier you could have done a little bit anything a little bit differently and i don't think we'd be here today i just
42:54think you're a little too late saying that and it you could have been saying that once it closed at one o'clock we locked the doors at one even when we had details off the shot was like close doors at one you call last call 120 130 140 lights go on music goes off you get people out our biggest issue is the parking lot it is tough to control the commercial pokemon if you go
43:15by walmart at 10 o'clock at night there's 50 cars of people tailgating out there right near the old sands it's like it's tough it's it's a commercial pocket what do i do 30 people out there and pay him to like tell people you can't be in here do we have anyone any any camera system i'm i was impressed with getting a camera system so like obviously i would never not be a
43:39video of anything in my bar do we have anyone here uh in the audience that we still have a couple a couple of uh folks here would anyone like to comment either for or against on the pending matter and if so i need you to come forward state your name and address uh seeing no one um the chair is willing to entertain a variety of motions or any any emotions
44:20that my colleagues uh team fit at this point um for purposes of stimulating discussion uh the chair would entertain a motion of a 28-day suspension from august 3rd to august 31st requesting by august 17th a written plan for changes improvements professional development or some sort of game plan including but not limited change of hours better security things of that nature that is a suggestion
45:09to stimulate discussion uh the chair cannot make a motion uh my understanding of the rules is i can only second so i'm going to ask the members if that is a motion any of them would like to make at this time will any of the flower police department have any suggestions with that being a being well without emotion we don't have any discussion right well do you guys have any suggestions for well i can't take
45:48the if there's no motion there's nothing even to talk about all right so the motion of sergeant hold on the most i have no suggestion on that motion do you have a motion that you would like to offer correct if we get a motion made and seconded correct i'll make a motion to approve the 28-day suspension and now second that motion okay motion made and seconded sergeant would you like to please come down and
46:21state your uh state your peace i just just to um if i may just to uh have a rebuttal on the comment earlier about uh one o'clock 1 15 closing the the bar still locking the doors well yeah the there's still people coming out of the bar every weekend at 2 15 2 30.
46:43i have my self-end sector cars come to the parking lot to ensure that there's no more disturbances in the parking lot there's still people coming out of the bar 2 15 2 30 sometimes a little later so i i would agree with that uh that that motion that option to uh to come up with the game plan after that maybe something we could do a little bit better with uh with closing earlier or given the circumstances
47:14so sergeant let me so the motion that was made are you telling me that if because again it doesn't necessarily so we we would be asking for a game plan in writing to entertain at the august meeting where we would revisit the issue right i'm in agreement with that correct i'm an agreement with that i think officer price may also like to weigh in on this though i just i think mr andre actually hit the point
47:50he's he's the only bar that's open that late in the city um i think if he closed at midnight i think he'd have a lot less problems i think that's fairly obvious gentlemen his doorman is an obvious problem he has never cooperated with me he's been fired since now okay that would be my suggestion that was i i i didn't hear about a lot of that stuff i was actually upset that was a
48:14lot of that was the stabbing he lied about i had heard through the grapevine i don't like violence at all like i don't do drugs i don't sell drugs i've never done drugs in my life i don't condone violence crosses i heard that i gotta let you go like that's that's absurd seeing that i do got a lot of friends on the force that you know i'll always keep in touch
48:35and make sure i'm not doing good detective camp alone yeah i just i mean if sergeant hidea and um officer plays who have been on many calls and officer mello and cummings are okay with that i'm okay with that um if things don't change in 28 days you're going to be looking at a lot more than 28 days um i think that like i said before that you were a little late on being
49:02proactive with these situations and unfortunately this is where we are today i think and quite honestly if i could add here and then we'll there'll be enough dialogue for me i'm not trying to partic pontificate but i i have to say we're also you're also pretty lucky that it looks like we haven't had neighbors show up and whatnot so while we obviously take these folks extremely extremely
49:31seriously and they're taking time out of their evening and it's clear from the reports that we get something's not working i know my brother supervisory this is a we got a problem um i think i think you're fortunate that we also don't have a bunch of neighbors and again you said it's you you did mention you're in a you're in a commercial spot it's kind of an asset having the parking
49:54but a negative sometimes you have folks but you have a buffer from the neighbors also um in again i freely admit i'm familiar with the with the location um so again i i'm going to reiterate the the motion uh made by ms cadero seconded by miss esposito the way i understand it so we would ask for a surrender of the license and a suspension surrender beginning on august 3rd and the bar being closed through august 31st
50:27we're requesting that we have some sort of a written plan from you by august 17th submitted to our clerk ms ayash that we will review and potentially ask you to appear at the august 24th meeting so the august 24th meeting you're still excuse me no that we're typically the third we just voted tonight today the meeting the 24th either way you're gonna be a close for an additional week because you're
50:55gonna serve the 28 days assuming this passes okay assuming this passes so again i'm going to ask one more time my law enforcement folks for any further i appreciate your comments i appreciate you being here any objections to the potential i don't know if it's going to pass or not but any any objections to this okay so i need a vote on the on the motion uh miss cadero since you made the motion
51:29i'll uh make a motion to approve the 28-day suspension of the license i'll second that motion can i get a vote miss cadero yes yes okay i'm sorry miss esposito yes chair votes chair votes yes so you need to obviously get 17 to carry you get you need to surrender by the uh august 3rd you're going to circle you're going to circle back to mississippi i'm going to stay over to the third and give
51:55her the liquor license and when do she need uh why don't you contact your office yeah so try to iron out the details with with ms ayash i believe the mat is closed officers thank you mr andrew thank you uh item number 9b um i'd like to have a motion from my colleague to approve the may 25th 2020 minutes 20 22 minutes i'll make a motion to approve the may 25th 2022 motion made by
52:33miss cadero seconded by mrs esposito all those in favor i i'm asking that we are not i'm asking fred tv we have not taken a motion to adjourn because we need to sign the minutes uh before we substan suspend the recording i'm sorry they in here before we suspend the meeting bear with me very end here kerry please sign yep
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53:34okay the uh may 25th 2020 minutes have been signed for they get a motion to adjourn make a motion to return i'll second motion made by miss esposito seconded by ms cadero all those in favor aye this motions adjourn this meeting's adjourned