The Watuppa Water Board convened on June 15th, addressing several key items including the acceptance of previous meeting minutes and proposed leak abatements totaling $8,877.22. The board also approved chemical bids for fiscal year 2024, amounting to $960,826, noting that these costs have doubled since FY2021 and may require a free cash transfer to cover the budget shortfall. An amendment to the Wright Pierce Asset Management system contract for $205,000 was approved, continuing efforts to update GIS and water distribution mapping. A significant portion of the meeting was dedicated to the ratification of a $480,000 contract with Woodward and Curran for construction management of the Lead Service Line Replacement Program, which was already in progress due to time constraints. Woodward and Curran also provided a comprehensive public presentation and update on the South Watuppa Pond Water Quality Restoration Program. This initiative, supported by various partners and funding sources including MVP grants and ARPA funds, aims to address harmful algae blooms through watershed assessment, pollutant source control, stormwater management projects, and potential in-lake treatments like alum dosing, with a long-term vision spanning to 2026. Finally, the board received an update on the Diamond High School geothermal project. The administration confirmed that the school has decided to move away from installing a subsurface geothermal heating system in their new building, a decision welcomed by the board and Commissioner Collins, who had previously raised concerns about its proximity to the reservoir. The board plans to develop policies and procedures for future geothermal system applications.
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we will call this meeting of the watapa water board for June 15th to order uh pursuant to the open meeting law any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or Transmissions are being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible Mr
0:30clerk would you call the role sir Collins here remember president here item number one on the agenda is citizen input I see no citizen input will move to item number two on the agenda the minutes of the previous meeting if you want to take a moment to review that and upon review the chair would entertain a motion to accept the minutes as presented so moved that's it all in favor aye item number three proposed leak
1:14abatements uh the following abatements received per the leak abatement policy Mr Clerk is there anything uh pretty standard yeah pretty standard abatements most of them there were two denials within the within this packet it was still catching up from uh some of them 21-22s but this should close out any 21s and gets us about three quarters away through any 22 so we're outstanding so I was starting to catch up in that
1:50since um so excellent um any questions hearing none uh the chair would entertain an emotion to accept the proposed leaked abatements totaling the amount of eight thousand eight hundred and seventy seven dollars and 22 cents all in favor aye we're moving right along unlike the Sewer Commission item number four diamond high school proposal for a right of way licensed tabled from the April 4th meeting Mr Clerk
2:36um so again if uh if they wanted to be discussion on this it could be lifted from the table that's why I have it on the agenda I did invite Diamond uh and I did send them a copy of the agenda until the meeting was with the copy of the agenda um if they wanted to be here to answer any questions but if you wanted to leave it tabled you could or if you wanted to
2:58have discussion in your discussions with diamond uh commissioner Collins had a very good question regarding uh transportation of of an injured player while over at Talbert um yeah I did bring that up to them when I when I discussed it with them uh I did not uh you know I wanted them to explain to the board and they wanted to be here um so I don't know whether there was a
3:26uh an issue with their calendar or not but okay you want to uh table this and move on and I would say we just leave it on the table yeah all right do we have a motion to um to do that oh we don't require one excellent item number five one thousand Blossom Road zoning board of appeals yeah so uh this just if I may um I did receive notice uh nothing official
3:59um but uh from this person's attorney that they are withdrawing this petition um so again I wouldn't say that there would be any action needed to be withdrawing there uh the zoning board of appeals application so moving along uh item number six Kim Awards we have the following bids and I reviewed bids uh and caustic soda I just have one question um the total is nine hundred and sixty thousand eight twenty six um
4:47what was it in 20 fiscal 23.
4:53so acoustic soda um all right if you go to the second page gives the unit price the total price and then the fy23 price gotcha gotcha okay so caustic soda unit below bid is uh boarding and Remington and one dollar fifth 1.1587
5:26230 000 do you want to do them individually or take the chembeds as presented uh I think if you want we can read the uh read anything over the fifty thousand dollar uh threshold which would be everything besides the hypocaboids um just uh the um what it is the amount and who it's being issued to if that uh goes along with everyone then um the chemical awards for fiscal year 2024 Borden and Remington per caustic
6:02soda 266 501 dollars uh polychloride Holland company 250 720 dollars carbon dioxide Lindy 129 375 sodium hypochloride chloride is Unilever excuse me yes Unilever 235 000. you've skipped one yeah you 've those two back up to Kimberly ah camera for silica fluoride we got sodium silica fluoride oh I'm going all right yeah you know what it is I was coming off of um I'm sorry no I was come I was reading the total sheet
7:01and should braid this one okay so um silica silica fluoride chemlite 75 pounds 79 050 dollars hypochlorite is Univar Solutions a hundred and ten thousand gallons 235 180 dollars and hypo uh hypo carboys 1200 gallons 5136 dollars heart Coast I apologize I was I was coming off the front page and not the okay um Wright Pierce Asset Management systems amendment 2 in the amount of two hundred and five thousand dollars
7:54Mr Clark vote on the chemicals I'm you know I want to apologize I'm tired and I'm slipping here okay so we have a proposal to accept the chemical bids in the total amount of nine hundred and sixty thousand eight hundred and twenty six dollars do we have a motion someone second all in favor aye aye sorry about that so just one thing I want to note about the chemicals um as you know um
8:32the chemicals uh over the we've had multiple discussions through the budget time with chemicals chemicals as bid is above what we budgeted within the upcoming upcoming FY 24 year we ran into the same problem within the FY 23 back in December when I'm working with my projections I you know project out what I see coming but when we bid them out they were higher uh we were about 150 000 above uh what we budgeted
9:05so this year in FY 23 we were able to make up a difference that was required within some savings within otherwise items within the budget my hope is that within fy24 we'll be able to do the same if we are not able to make up differences within the line items then I would expect to have to come back to uh the water board as well as the council to transfer free cash you know
9:37since fy21 chemical cost has over doubled um so we're talking a three-year four-year escalation of doubling of cost um so again uh just something that we're dealing with on both the water and the sewer aspect of the work wow I'll let the board know that so as the year goes on if transfers are needed you're aware of why they are needed thank you item number seven right Pierce asset
10:18management system Amendment two in the amount of two hundred and five thousand thank you very much so uh this is uh an asset management system and GIS information as some of the board members know we've been working over the past couple years on updating robot asset management work Auto management GIS we've been very lucky that um through the srf program and the mass clean water
10:50trust there's currently a grant program performance um we've uh we've done roughly about uh six hundred thousand dollars worth of work so far uh with about uh with about a hundred and fifty thousand dollars in loans that we have to pay back um this is a continuation of that um our grant uh amount for this project is a hundred and fifty thousand dollars uh alone at the end will be about fifty
11:19thousand fifty five thousand uh we'll do about forty five thousand of in-kind services um this uh this one as it stands uh this will really work a lot on our water uh distribution system mapping uh this is something we have uh some older GIS maps that we've been working with for years based off of our old hydraulic Maps we've been working over the past couple of years and getting out there GPS and
11:48all the all the water boxes this will continue out continue GPS and curb stops and really update all of our geodatabase and all of the gis so that we have a really good water distribution mapping system in there uh it'll continue the use of utility Cloud software which is a cmms program an asset management program that we're using so it'll continue off the implementation so that's working with all of our staff
12:20it's been fully rolled out within the water maintenance division we're probably about 20 to 30 percent rolled out within the water treatment Division and we're continuing to roll it out throughout the Wastewater and stormwater divisions as well this should get us off um fulcrum completely Yeah Yeah by The End by the end of this year my hope is that we're fully off fulcrum which is the
12:46first system that we used which was an excellent system served its purpose got the guys used of Technology they're doing well with that though um I've had several lack interactions with um the foreman out in the field and they were really Adept at going through their uh their tablets that was very impressive without a doubt without a doubt so this to keep this thing rolling you know we have we've been able to
13:20support this uh these functions in-house with our giss asset management manager as well as the coordinator that we have the positions open right now the one that we had in the place in the past was excellent but uh he moved on so we do have an open position for GIS Asset Management staff member um but uh yeah no it's uh it's been really good the program's been working good the
13:49guys like it which is the biggest thing they do they do like it um are there any questions no questions um chair to entertain a motion to accept the amendment to the con amendment number two in the amount of 205 thousand dollars thank you at long last we come to Woodward and current sorry about the delay one item we're going to ratify here's what would encourage yeah so
14:36um yes so just uh in front of you is a ratification of the construction management resident inspection uh contract for our lead service replacement program um this is my fault I should have had this at the board at the last meeting but I did it did not make the agenda and was overlooked by me due to our time constraints on the construction project we needed to get the contract to go in
15:05which they are as well as the construction management overall site so this is for woodwind Curran to provide the construction Management Services or oversight it's in the amount of 480 000 this is funded to uh the srf program through the uh phase 22 lead service replacement phase also known as phase one of the lead service covered fluent service replacement program again this is a ratification it the
15:40contract is in place if this board does not approve it then they would be paid for any uh services rendered and uh well we certainly do not want any delays in our lead service program so it would be my recommendation that the board approved the blood service line replacement Construction I'm looking for lead service line replacement program construction Administration to Woodward and Karen in
16:17the amount of four hundred and eighty thousand dollars in share it in the ocean second all in favor aye aye thank you and we'll going forward item number nine Woodward incarn South with toppo pond water quality restoration program Public Presentation and update
16:55they've been our consultant on the clean water project uh in the south of Tampa pond so far today uh he wants to do a presentation on where we are uh where we've been where we are and where we're going uh and what we're doing with some of the MVP uh the municipal vulnerability for pandas Grant funds that we uh that we've received so it's got it better if I'm way over there okay
17:20um thanks for having us Scott Medeiros ordered and Karen um I'll steal one selfish second and say how excited we are to be helping with the lead service line which you just talked about um happy to be part of that process and improving the situation for all the residents in the city pond water quality restoration program um is an important one we've been working on it for about uh almost I'd
17:45say three years or so now since we first started um is it something I can click on or is that are you trying to operate it from there find the mouse again get ran away there it is okay okay um this is one that you've been struggling with as if you're a backup not only a emergency water supply but is also a recreational asset in the city we have a whole Litany of project Partners
18:12here that you can see UMass Dartmouth I think actually start with Bay Coast Bank this project was initiated by a private investment by Bay Coast Bank that started the investigation into the um the green algae blooms the harmful algae blooms that were ever present and were becoming more and more prominent with drought conditions and the changing temperatures we've had some really hot summers and it was becoming really
18:41really prominent again in the last few years but it's been there for a long time they Coast bank provided some private funding toward you know the Improvement of this asset that the city has we got some additional support secondary monetary support from rep Schmidt um Senator Roderick and also representative Edwards from the uh from the Rhode Island delegation this was a this was also important to
19:10include the cattle Westbrook uh Tiverton Rhode Island as well as you know obviously the city this this water body lies with um drainage contributing from all of those locations so it's a little bit of a complex Watership from that perspective but we managed to get some MVP grants them out the municipal vulnerability preparedness program which we had years and years ago prepared your
19:33plan and moved it forward so well our agenda is just briefly what have we done in the past what are we currently doing and what do we have planned for the future and I did promise Olga that I'd be really quick previous efforts on on the water quality initiative we've done a watershed assessment where we did hydrography um land cover use soils and existing infrastructure the full assessment
20:01within the Watershed did a pollutant Source identification so as you can imagine pollutants to the pond are the the issue of the bacteria tends to be the transportation of the phosphorus and you know nutrients into the water body so we took a look at the uses around and we don't have any we don't have any significant industrial thank goodness but we do have all the others that are noted here water quality evaluation
20:28within the pond so we did partner with UMass Dartmouth they've been doing some testing over the last couple of years within the water body on sediments in the water column um non-structural watershed management pollutant Source control we've done evaluation looked at some water control opportunities recommendations for the future and considerations are you know septic assessment agriculture
20:51cooperation and continuing to look at funding opportunities the takeaways from the work currently and this is really a horrendous photo but really does represent what can be seen pretty frequently um is that you know the cyanobacteria which is there which has caused a basically an ongoing swimming advisory advisory we'll call it an advisory um you know this is one of those things that as you could you've seen and I
21:21think several of you have been to some of the public meetings we've had leading up to this point where this can be you know problematic it cannot be problematic But ultimately it's kind of an individual thing and if you're in the wrong circumstance it could cause you some discomfort or some issues we've basically identified that as as the the underlying cyanobacteria there's one more slide that talks a little more
21:45about it um and the internal nutrient load is pretty significant and might be manageable but there needs to be this Watershed being as complex as it is the solution to this going forward is some combination and likelihood of treating the the sediments on the bottom of the pond to alleviate the issues that come with the the dissolved oxygen changes during the warm parts of the summer and also
22:12controlling the Outer Perimeter and that Watershed and making sure that we're doing the right things whether it be through bmps controlling the the fertilizer types and that kind of thing we can move to the next slide thank you the work that is in progress currently through the MVP Grant and funded through the MVP Grant largely although we do have an additional funding source that
22:34was through some mitigation funds that has been being dedicated as well three Stillwater control projects that came out of the initial study that we're taking a look at the boat ramp everybody's familiar with the boat ramp by the rowing Center we have an enhanced bio attention bio bio retention system that's being proposed which will basically take some of the runoff from the parking lot run
22:57it through treat it basically filter it and remove some of the constituents that are being transported currently from that parking lot to the to the pond and remove it in that in that type of a system Cherry Lane which is we've id'd three we tried to work around the perimeter into the communities that are Partners Cherry Lane there's an existing uh Basin there that's a stone water
23:21basin that hasn't really had a lot of maintenance done to it we're looking at some improvements that Basin some infiltration treatment and then some some side filtration on the Fall River Edge right before entry to the pond so this is really going to be a contribution from Tiverton that's doing some of their part to treat their storm water Plymouth Boulevard which was never intended to be that we looked at a
23:45tickle Road originally that location didn't work out well for Westport so we moved our location over to Plymouth Boulevard and we're investigating a very steep section of Plymouth Boulevard where there's some erosion that's caused a transport of untreated storm water and then erosion that is getting directly into the into the pond so we're proposing some bmps there that Westport will ultimately be responsible for and
24:14then a much more significant project that's going to be preliminary design which is looking at the whole soccer Brook Wetland restaurant duration and I don't know if you're familiar with that by the charter school there's a fairly significant sucker Brook runs through a series it comes from from a couple of smaller ponds upstream yeah they come into soccer Brook runs right through and that's kind of a
24:39degraded Wetland that is um that has a significant amount of phragmites a sort of invasive species and so it's not doing what Wellens typically at this point are designed to do in terms of treating storm water so there's an investigation by our team as to some concepts of how to do some soft public Outreach and educational signage and things like that but restore that to a functional Wetland that would be a much
25:04more impactful in terms of pre-treating storm water that's flowing through that area public Outreach the groundwork south coast is a non-profit organization that's been working recently in New Bedford and Fall River area they're engaged in a couple other projects that Paul has happening and um we're engaged with them they're doing some uh foot traffic door knocking educational Outreach as part of the MVP program
25:33requirements and we think it's a a really good um a good way for uh folks to hear about what we're doing and and what the improvements will be here ongoing work third year of sampling for UMass Dartmouth they are going to be out doing monthly Clarity dissolved oxygen temperature and chlorophyll basically um as they did in the first two summers and then do continuous dissolved oxygen
25:59and temperature sensored which will be new for this upcoming summer and that'll give us more of the scientific data that we need to understand when these problems occur and then what the solutions will be long term future Pursuits as we noted the storm water control projects we'd love to build them that'll be the next step would be looking for some funding um down the road to do some of the
26:24implementation the boat ramp as I mentioned Cherry Lane and Plymouth Boulevard and all of those go look toward implementation there be some symbol you may have seen some in the city some of the tree filter boxes there'll be some things like that that are being proposed as part of our design and permitting currently um here's your Pursuits the sucker book which I just spoke about we did have a
26:49very productive call with Atlantis Charter school and they're extremely interested in in participating in an educational way and engaging their students in a um in in a process like this so we'll be looking to align the water quality and flood control with any of the future developments on the Jefferson Street Extension area um
27:15yeah here we go explore and implement the stormwater control design options for the the public and private properties in that area something happened to the slide here but um continue to do the the South Coast ground the groundwork South Coast educational work with signage and collaborate with Atlantic with the Atlantis Charter School on educational work and enhanced viewing and opportunities within the Wetland area
27:41the next one um look at the future Pursuits and from assessments that are necessary for the restoration we'll take a look at the ongoing sediment and sampling that will happen in turn inside the lake uh itself at the the sediments on the bottom of the lake the um look at the Interceptor drain so on the Fall River Edge of the more urban side of the pond there's an Interceptor there so we'll be looking at the
28:10Interceptor doing some more investigation there to see what the nutrient load might be from that location so there may be a treatment that can happen at that location um and and I think it's important to look continue to look at the illicit discharge the idde discharge and elimination for any leaky sewer Mains that might be in the area that could contribute here but also continue to
28:34review local policies and procedures that engage and ensure the the storm water quality continues to be at the Forefront more um in the lake I think ultimately where this is going is a combination as I said earlier of some sort of in-lake treatment that will basically bind the sediments at the bottom keep that from being uh the regenerative source of nutrient to to cause the the uh the
29:05outbreak of the algae blooms but also to to look at other areas like uh the West Side Interceptor and then other other real holistic approaches to managing the Watershed in a more effective way so that you don't have to do this over and over again advancing uh the Stillwater drainage system mapping in all three communities so we continue to chase so I think you guys have a really nice handle in the
29:30city but Westport and Tiverton don't have such a great handle on their mapping so we're we've been talking to them about hoping that you know we'll get that mapping caught up at some point continue long-term education public Outreach programs work with the agencies agricultural producers producers and Wildlife agencies and then Paul and and his team but um also in the DPW continue cleaning you know street cleaning
29:56thinking about phosphorus generation through Leaf composite decomposition and then I'll try to try to implement strategies to um to head some of that off and remove some of the potential sources from their um from their their landing spot if you will um Partnerships and funding opportunities just want to talk about obviously we spoke of the Atlantic Charter School both of your communities
30:21on the perimeter MVP is a big has been a big contributor he has a second Grant on this project and one would hope that in this upcoming round that we would anticipate coming soon we haven't heard there's an issue with the program funding that we would be looking for some money for implementation of these projects at least a couple of the projects we're designing now in permitting MVP arpa private funds have
30:46all been used in the project and other Feature Feature programs we're always keeping our eyes open I think that what we're seeing is money flows into the the state we see the vulnerability of water systems and the vulnerability and and the um the climate change impacts of drought and all those things as primary drivers for where funding is headed so we continue to be on the ever Vigilant
31:12eyes open for for funding opportunity I think we're scheduling timeline and um you know read through it all but we're going to continue in 2023 to do the work that we're doing you know sediment sampling as I indicated all the way through to pursuing funding for implementation of the projects um dependent on funding in 2024 um and there's some initial in League treatments could be could be on the horizon
31:41um with sucker Brook and the West Side Interceptor flow and load evaluations being completed and then looking for some other new storm water control opportunities in and around the Watershed 2025 depended on funding there could be some full we would expect full scale whatever the determination is of all the studies and the in the testing to inform us of what the implementation of inlay treatment might
32:04look like often it's Alum Alum dosing which is what we've done in the city of Newton and a handful of other places but on a much smaller scale and than this is a fairly large water body sucker Brook restoration perhaps we're doing some implementation there and you know we keep carrying over identifying storm water because we don't want anybody to forget you need to always stay vigilant there and then in 2026
32:31we're looking forward you know increase in water the southwest of pond and flood capacity of Sucker Brook through that Wetland and continuing to increase the community interest in um and Advance the restoration initiatives through that through that piece of treatment train um that's it I tried to go really fast and not get hung up but hopefully there's some questions that I know we
32:59can't really entertain them from the public because we're not live but um but yeah commissioner Collins to make sure that this um presentation gets put on the website that people can easily access it yeah definitely yeah we can upload it too oh my God yeah the Tupper Reserve page with tupperreserve.com is where we've been hosting all of the south of Tampa uh information so PowerPoint from our past
33:25presentations uh some of the reports and stuff so I'll make sure this gets put up there the the Alum dosing that you're talking about that's not the same thing we did to Stafford pond that's a that was a different process correct it was like a capping that happened no I think that's exactly yeah is it exactly okay yeah yeah yeah again so yeah they did that to staff and pond uh beginning of
33:47last year uh in Stafford which is extremely smaller than this I think it was about 750 000 they spent to be able to do that treatment well I think it'll likely be um it'll be in the it'll certainly be north of a million dollars it might be north of multi-million dollars to be able to do the work but at the end of the day I think that's why it's even more
34:11sensitive is that you you don't want to do that every seven or eight or ten years right so no so you want to then do a better job of managing the perimeter and I know that you do of the Northwest upper because you have the reserve so it's just challenging when you have so much development around it and it's outside of your complete it's outside some of it's most of it's outside of
34:31your jurisdiction half of it yeah so just you know to know a couple of things so MVP Municipal vulnerability program they've been great Partners so far provided a lot of funding uh the uh Bristol County Treasury arpa funds that are approved through the city council and the administration uh they've provided funding uh towards this project uh they've also one of the things that was brought up during the presentation
34:57was uh Leaf litter and street sweeping within the areas that run off to these ponds so there are three street sweepers that are coming uh through Bristol County off of funds to be able to help out these particular areas always Bay Coast Bank really got this thing going um rep Schmid and as well as Senator rodericks provided an airmark fund for Westport for the south of Temple pond
35:25last year which we were able to access and use so we've been pulling in multiple different funding uh opportunities and grant opportunities to be able to fund this project so far you know it's taken us a hundred years to get the pond as bad as it is now 100 plus years probably we're not going to fix it overnight but we're going to work on down this to try to make it good for
35:51all the future Generations you know one thing I've been telling people we can't think about the next two years three years five years you know we've got to start thinking about the next 50 years next hundred years you know is where we have to be and this is part of their thinking back in the day there was a discussion many years ago Dr Blaze was here at the water department and there was a
36:17suggestion to slake the pond with bentonite and seal the bottom um I just wanted is that something along the same lines that you're talking about encapsulating the the bottom yeah I think it's a I'm not sure that that's uh that type of solution for for a water body yeah and that was sort of I'll just let's say that's an outdated technology the Alum is a sort of a um you just spread it and it drifts to
36:50the bottom and it just basically binds the the sediments on it binds to sediment yeah so it does create an encapsulation to a certain degree but it's certainly not like a like a clay barrier or anything like that but it does um it basically uh binds it so that it it won't function and and that can be disturbed so there are some challenges you certainly need to know what the depths are and if there
37:15are really shallow areas and you have to boats or recreational that might disturb it then it's not particularly helpful there are a lot of other types of things out there I think Paul and I have done at several conferences and and we've worked primary I mean the one that's proven is Alan dosing at this point but there are challenges to some of the areas and there's some new technologies
37:36that are being evaluated in Pilots all the time where they have a some floating um buoyed scenarios in their their solar and they're actually sending out like selling out like a like a really low um sonar and that's doing some some magic in there and it's literally keeping that from from affecting the it affects the the ability of the water column to to establish what it needs to
38:05established from a chemical perspective to to promote the algae Bloomer it just keeps everything to the bottom yeah so it's there's some interesting technology out there but there's we're way we're way ahead of that being proven and being part of it but that might be something that you might look at in a real shallow Corner that's getting algae blooms and say well let's kind of maybe pilot
38:26something but it's a little too early to say where do they go when you mention the interceptors you we have two as you know um what was what were you thinking about with the Interceptor because both of them receive Road runoff yeah and we're just thinking that you know we're we're we don't have a lot of good data on what the water quality is coming from the Interceptor so we've looked at length at some areas
38:53um you have a number of Consultants working in the city and I know that the CSO related work we've been working with CDM on getting data on the CSO and trying to get your mapping on the sewer side so straightened out so we know what's what so we're going to be doing a little more detailed work this year on the intercept and I understand what that water quality is there is the
39:13possibility you could have an Alum dosing like portal at the inlet that treats the stormwater before it ever goes into the Basin that would take that and make some of that sediment being transported in dirt but we you know there are lots of things you could do and there are less things up in the Watershed so we don't know exactly but we're looking at it which reminds me when you say a point of
39:37contact with some dosing the old timers used to put bags of lime in the feeder streams yeah and let them just sort of you just let it wear down and it and throw some more in when it's gone yes it did and so that's very interesting it's a heck of a great project it's a lovely body of water it is yeah sure without a doubt you know one of the things so
40:03nowadays back in the day they used to hang the bag of lime and yeah it really did they'd throw them in nowadays with permitting and everything like that that's that's changed a lot so we really need to go through you know some people might say well why are you doing all this studying why are you why are you why are you spending all this money looking at this stuff just go fix the problem
40:27to be able to go through the permitting process and everything with mass dep and all the other agencies that are involved we need uh you know they're looking for at least three years of data within the pond so we're getting to that point uh and that's one of the reasons that we really need you know this year we needed last year we need this coming year to be able to get those three years of data
40:50you know permitting nowadays is a lot different than it used to be so that's one of the reasons that was still still people might say oh you're studying this thing forever but no we need this data to be able to prove why we're going to do what we're going to do it's yeah of many of the dwellings along the pond periphery uh were never sewered so they still aren't right right so exactly you
41:17need a really good database well and honestly some of that is um the watershed management that we spoke about there's some agricultural areas and so there's some things that can be done there expansion potentially depending on you know where it's where it makes sense and that would remove some of the potential contribution from septic systems that are around the lake there are a lot of
41:40things that can be done in the Watershed to manage it uh going forward so very interesting any questions no I don't think we need a vote on this we can just move right along thank you very much it was very informative um item number 10 is other potential matters and start is Diamond geothermal update yeah so I wanted to come back to the board at the last meeting we discussed uh diamond with the new building they
42:16were discussing uh they were going to install geothermal heating system I've had multiple discussions with them they've sure the discussion at the last waterboard meeting they have since moved on from the geothermal heating system and opting to use a different uh system this is what I've been told they did go in I think for their 60 with their 60 design drawings to be able to get estimates on the whole entire project
42:52they went in with the geothermal uh heating system still within their plans uh the reason that they did that they were when they made the determination to switch they were just submitting their plans for estimates so they didn't want to try to change everything around right at that point they wanted to go in with the 60 and then they've told me that at the 90 plans it will be removed and they
43:19will not be doing subsurface geothermal heating systems so um uh you know right now at this point I think that uh it's almost a uh uh no point um you know that's that's what I've been told by the uh by the diamond Administration that's good news I thought it's good you know without a doubt and uh you know based on that too um I think uh you know we're moving forward I'm having some staff members
43:49look at uh uh building and policy and procedure to deal with these types of uh I think member Collins for doing some research and providing it uh providing it to us um you know I think this is going to be something more prevalent upcoming so we need to be able to uh understand it have policies procedures in place I have the proper application review uh procedure to be able to go through to be able to
44:16allow these systems within the community where they should be allowed exactly exactly I I really greatly appreciated the input that I got from commissioner Collins and others um I did go down as a private citizen to the city council and um presented as a private citizen not speaking for the board but the the proximity for geothermal weld system especially the type that was being proposed
44:53was inappropriate in my opinion for the area adjacent to the reservoir so having no further business to come before the board chair would entertain a motion to adjourn second all in favor aye