4.29.2026 City Council - Committee on Public Safety

City Council Committee on Public Safety April 29th, 2026 at 5:15 p.m. will commence. Clerk, call the roll.

Councilor Cadima. Here. Councilor Raposa. Here. Chair Peckham. Here.

Pursuant to the open meeting law, any person [clears throat] may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium. Attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or transmissions are therefore being made whether perceived or unperceived by those present are deemed acknowledged and permissible.

Item number one, citizens input.

We have two people signed up. We have Michael Baldi.

19 Hunters Way, Westport. Subject firefighter motion to waive the rules has been made. Motion waived.

Second. Seconded. All those in favor, I.

Gentlemen hello.

Good evening. Good evening, Mr. Baldi.

Hi guys. I'm here in my capacity as the vice president local 1314 of the Fall River Firefighters Union. I want to address a few inaccuracies I heard at the city council meeting last night, kind of a rebuttal.

They someone mentioned that firefighter turnout gear would take over a year to procure if it was put into the budget and I made some phone calls today for 190 sets of gear that could be purchased in 10 to 12 days to fit all the firefighters we have in for over a 2-week period and then 60 days from then we could have 190 sets of P fast free gear.

The last set of gear that we purchased that did not have P that was not P fast free was in October for four recruits who sent to the fire academy. They've since graduated the academy and are in the companies.

We hired seven members through local register maybe a month or two ago. I can't remember exact dates and they they were the first people to have P fast free gear. Those were seven people we hired off the local register. The nine people we have in the academy right now that just started last week. Their gear that was ordered, nine sets of gear, is not in yet, but that will be P fast free gear. Under the uh

the bill was signed by Governor Healey in 2024, the act to protect mass public health from P fast.

Um anything after January 27th 2027, any fire department gear has to be P fast free P fast free.

Um And that that 190 sets, if purchased, we asked for a few extra sets, one for the department to send out to independent testing and one the union asked the chief chief and he agreed to to have we will send out for independent testing to make sure that it's P fast free. It has to be under 100 parts per million of P fast. And then to find out what other types of chemicals could be in there.

And I believe the union president brought up last night uh the incident happened in Quincy. They were promised sets of gear that were P fast free and they had a large amount of P fast in them. And they they sent it out for independent testing then they discovered that. So we want to uh protect ourselves in the same way.

Okay.

I appreciate that. Thank you. Any questions? Yeah, Councilor Raposa. Yeah.

Mr. Baldi, just to clarify, last night we talked about they wanted to do an an order of 100. To to set up the full department, 200 is the accurate number?

Our number right now I believe is with the nine we just hired is 191.

We're at 193. It's a moving target.

People retire.

makes makes sense to have a few extras obviously if you need them. But that would outfit outfit everybody with P fast free turnout gear. Yes, sir. Okay.

Thank you. I yield.

Councilor Cadima. Thank you. Uh hearing that this is a much lower timeline to get these ordered and and brought here, um do you know offhand how long the testing is? I know we say we want to send away. I just if if it's a little you know, I guess my where I'm going with this is if it's much quicker to order gear, could we just get one set sent it out for testing, have it tested

before we go purchase a 190? Uh with the timeline of the testing, I can get that answer for you quickly. I can reach out to the the local president and uh and the Quincy Firefighters Union and get an answer back to see what they did. But I will know that we don't want the set that they hand us for testing. We want to see 100 sets of gear and I'll pick

that the set of gear I want to send out to testing. I want to be randomized testing as opposed to what they hand us.

So he's got to That doesn't make sense.

world we live in you have to trust but verify. Yep.

Yeah. I mean it makes sense. Yeah. I yield.

Second. I appreciate it, Mr. Baldi.

Thank you.

Thank you, gentlemen.

Uh next for citizens input, Michael O'Regan, 1198 Newhall Street. Subject fire gear.

It's been a while since I've seen you guys. Mr. O'Regan.

So I just want to address a couple things uh that the CFO brought up last night.

Phasing in gear uh is I I would say it's reckless and irresponsible. I mean, who are you going to choose? Who's going to like be poisoned and who's not going to be poisoned, right? Uh it comes around to what how much are you willing to sacrifice or spend for somebody's life?

It's kind of like well, you know, we're going to have the police department outfitted with handguns, but we're but we're going to phase in bullets over the next 2 years. It's it's it's it's ridiculous. It's it's a life-saving measure for us.

Uh and and I think that the city's plan to phase things in is is ridiculous and it should be resoundingly rejected.

Our people need protection now. And and and I think we deserve it.

Our guys are dying and this is one of these ways to mitigate that. If if you look up the the amount of bills that the city pays uh just in medical alone for the cancer treatments, it's it makes it makes sense. It does. And and besides that, you know, the the the mental well-being of of us alone, being able to put a set of gear on and say I'm not killing myself by putting this this crap

on. I know when I came back I didn't want to put it on. I didn't want to touch it.

Cuz I knew that that's what was that was was killing me.

I I disagree with a lot of things that she said and and and I don't think I I I think I also think it's it's reckless and irresponsible for her to make statements about previous gear being purchased over the years that were P fast free when if she doesn't know, she probably shouldn't talk on it. Because that was that was untrue.

All right. Is that all you have?

All I got. Thank you. Councilor Raposa.

Yeah, so I [clears throat] think last night Councilor Cadima kind of indicated as one councilor supporting the instead of getting 100 this year and 100 later on, I would agree with him and I would advocate too for get them all, you know, it makes it makes sense. Um so it it would be appropriate to make a motion for to file resolution? Is that an allowable thing?

Can I do that?

Chair, it's up to you I guess.

Your discretion. We can. Um would it be better suited just to file a resolution on the outside? I can certainly do that.

And then send it back to committee.

Yeah, so I I think you know, I'll I'll file resolution if if you gentlemen wanted as a committee we we could talk about that um to send a a a letter to the administration advocating for moving up the number to the adequate number that needs to be ordered to cover all of our firefighters in one fell swoop, obviously subject to testing and and what have you to make sure they're taken

care of. I I I think I agree with Mr.

O'Regan that you know, 100 only doesn't cover everybody. And I think you're you're playing I don't think it's a good game to play, so I'll I'll file the resolution after the meeting. I yield.

All right, thank you. I know last night I I made a comment that I would like to see the 191 like Councilor Cadima said um up front and buy those and I would also like to see fiscal year 28 have the same um type of appropriation because I would like to get both sets of gear both sets of gear um be P fast free cuz it wouldn't make sense if you have front line gear and then

you have to wash it and then you go throw on the the one that has P fast on it. You're defeating the purpose. It uh we want to get that gear out of the station, period. It it it it does what's called it degrades, it sheds. And it gets all over so you could P fast is attracted to dust molecules. So if you go into a station, I I I encourage you to take a flashlight and

look around the corners of the walls.

There's gigantic dust bunnies and that's all P fast. All that stuff has been tested over the years in laboratories and they and they know what it is and that just comes off by gear. We take that home. Put it in our cars. It's it's it's everywhere. It's on everything. So if we eliminate in the the gear itself, well then we can remediate the stations and and finally clean them out. Okay.

That's definitely a conversation to be had. Did you have something, councilor?

No, I think Councilor Raposa addressed I think I was looking to how do we get the second set of gear sooner. So. Yeah, I think if we're going to do this I know we spoke about the station, we've spoke about the living um what you guys living within the stations that needs to be rectified. The your equipment needs to be just the trucks in general need to be handled and the now the P fast the gear.

So I think it we need to take all of these issues together and just keep pushing to make sure that they're rectified. Um because I don't want to really be talking about this next year.

This is you know, it's a safety issue.

It's a uh it's a hazard within the job that we're able to rectify. So whatever I can do to make that possible, I will. I appreciate your time, Mr. O'Regan. Thank you.

Thank you guys. Thank you for coming down.

All right, that's it for citizens input.

Item number two on the agenda is the minutes from the April 21st, 2026 meeting. Motion to approve is now made and seconded. All those in favor, I.

I, the eyes have it. Motion to lift item three from the table. Motion to lift item three from the table is now made and seconded. All those in favor, I. I.

Eyes have it. Reso- Item number three, resolution Committee on Public Safety convene with the administration, police chief, fire chief, chief of emergency medical services, chief emergency management agency, the administrator of community utilities, the interim director of the Department of Community Maintenance, the director of city operations, and the director of traffic and parking to discuss the development

of a strategic emergency response plans.

Plans, sorry. This was tabled on 4/7 of 2026.

Everybody can come down.

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Good afternoon everybody. I'll start with you Chief. If you just want to go on a table name and title.

JT Hoar acting Chief of Police for the Fall River Police Department. I'm Richard Aguiar, EMA Director, Chief of Emergency Services. Chris Hathaway, Fall River Police Signal Division.

Al Oliveira, Director City Operations.

Michael Arruda, Deputy Chief of EMS.

Ann O'Neil Souza, Interim City Administrator.

Beth Founts, Chief of EMS.

All right, excellent. Thank you guys for coming tonight. Um, I know the last meeting I said that I would like to have another meeting roughly 30 days out to see where we were at with this trailer. And I know in the meantime, a lot of headway has been made. Um, it's actually quite impressive.

So, I I had asked that the Chiefs and Directors and whatnot come back with just maybe a list of what um still may need to be done, ideas, and then we can go from there as far as the Emergency Operations Trailer. Um, and for the people at home that may not be um so well versed on the project, we initially I had filed the resolution to look at updating the Emergency Operations Center within the city. And

during the course of that discussion, it was brought up that a mobile operations center would be a good way to go as well. Um, and that's what we're entertaining at this point. And I'm very glad to have you guys here tell me your ideas.

I think you uh were part of that walk-through that we did, which identified uh the trailer obviously and uh some modifications that needed to be made to house all three of our public safety entities.

I know Chief Founts has worked hard with the Deputy to get some quotes on getting the trailer wrapped. I think she can expand upon on that as far as getting it uh uh curb appeal increased on it.

As far as what it has for facilities, uh Chris Hathaway took a look at it uh for the communications piece. So, there are things that we're looking at there. I think the key point is is this is kind of like our trial run of this and then gathering feedback from all three agencies on what's working, what's not working in there. Um, I know our IT department was involved with uh some of

the outfitting for the workstations in there. I know that uh you great you made up a great brought up a great point around uh dispatch operations being able to work out of there. Um, so this the the thought process with this trailer when it's uh complete is to have this at some of the major special events in the city. Uh I think one of the only things that's an issue with it is because it's

so long on a trail on a being trailered by a truck is the maneuverability. So, um I think we can take some of that information that we gathered by using this and then apply that for when we want to look for one that's a kind of a tour bus style. Um, so we're we're planning on identifying speaking with Ann today about special events, identifying what that trailer will be deployed for, kind of like

pre-authorization, and then kind of coming up with like an SOP on how it's activated and deployed. But, I think if we identify we have our calendar kind of laid out for city sponsored events uh and obviously the bigger ones like the Gates of the City events, the Day of Portugal. That's the type of things that we're going to use this for. So, um identifying that and knowing so we can plan accordingly. So, I think it

everything's been good from our standpoint in the police department on where it's headed.

Excellent. Thank you, Chief.

Chief Aguiar?

No, I agree with everyone. I think it's going to be a good asset to the city.

Um, it's something that we need we haven't had before. The police had their command center.

But, I think unified command for everyone in one trailer was something that should happen. It's going to be a great asset to the city. Um, that's all I have. I guess um Chief Founts has been doing a lot of work with this and Deputy Chief uh Arruda. So, uh kudos to them for getting us up and rolling.

On the communication side, I'm looking to uh add at least two uh mobile repeaters.

So, that way it'll enhance the communications at any event. Um, whether it's a scene or or just a regular um Gates of the City event or something of that of nature.

Um, the only issue that I'm having right now with Motorola is our frequency on the police side. The fire side is good.

Those mobile repeaters will work, but I'm working with the engineers for Motorola on the police side. Okay. Um, the idea of it is is that we'll be able to whatever we put into this we'll be able to transfer over to um a bus style command truck.

Um, same thing with if we install any cameras on the exterior, some tele- telescopic cameras, stuff like that. I know that was one of the issue one of the items that we had discussed originally was the telescoping camera. Um, I think it's a good idea, but take some time. I think we said that we would uh get the ball rolling and then work on that. Yeah, it's a little harder because of the trailer style. Um, but

what I'm looking into it now. Okay.

Um, and I know Deputy uh Acting Chief Hoar brought up the uh the dispatch component. And the reason I and we'd had this discussion feel so strongly about it is I'm trying to look for a way to free up any way I have I can um the traffic on the radio with 364 and with the fire. Um, because you know, if we could handle or self-dispatch right from a large event right from the

trailer and supply the resources right directly from there, it takes some burden off of the the dispatches at the department itself, you know, our actual dispatch center. Um, so that's why I've I've been pushing for that. I think it would help us. My intent would have four radios for four seats four uh two for police, two for fire. Okay.

Now, what about a 911 piece up? Can we put that in there? Is that something that the state would have to do? Yeah, it's not something that we could um do. Cuz I know we don't have that piece up. Those seats are baked into the the facility. So, if you wanted a mobile aspect from the piece up side, it would be requesting it from the state 911, but that would be for some type of traffic

failure. Yeah, sorry. Understood.

They would bring down their facility at that point. Okay. I appreciate it. Thank you.

Yes, Counselor. Under the city operations end, we would work with all three agencies to get the logistics on site and try to work around what what is needed. Prior to that, we're we'll be working with them to see what customizations that we can support um any type of um augmentation to any of those uh units.

Um, and then have an idea of where we where we have with something that's actually mobile on its own. So, we'll support uh all the all the departments.

Okay. I know I an idea I had for the operations piece of this was I remember back in I think it was 2000 I want to say one when did the highway fall under the government center?

That was um [clears throat] early 2000s. So, 99 to 2000.

in the 1990s. Yeah, yeah. So, I remember I was on the auxiliary then and they were entertaining with uh at the time it was Lieutenant Cullen having the auxiliary work a detail on, you know, to watch for falling cement in Fall River out of all things.

But um and nobody surprised in Boston as well. Yeah, sure it did.

I'm I'm sure it did. Um, so they were going to have us go out there. So, what I was thinking was this trailer even for event like situations like that, if we have details and it's going to be a detail that's going to be 6, 7 days long, it could be a spot where yeah, a detail officer can go and eat his lunch. I don't care. Anything, you know, any type of emergency situation I

can see this being used for. So, Yeah, I mean Chief was talking about the SOP. That's going to be crucial for this this operation because there's always going to be a a lot of hands trying to get involved in it. That SOP will will uh list exactly what's what we can use it for.

Yeah, agreed.

Agreed. Thank you.

Yeah, I can just speak a little bit to what's already in motion. Um, the trailer is already out to be wrapped um by the company that's doing the work. Uh we expect that it'll be back wrapped by sometime next week. Uh so, that process has already been started. Um, myself and the Chief have started looking into some of the other expenses, things like the auto leveling jacks I know Chief Bacon

had spoken about. Uh we're still trying to look for there was an awning on the outside of that, getting that awning replaced. I think uh Chief Founts was trying to make some phone calls today to see what that would cost to get that replaced. Um, and then we still have uh some people trying to look into the telescoping cameras and uh the lights.

Uh we're not sure if that's going to be done uh currently. It certainly is not going to As far as like EMS specific needs that I kind of addressed I kind of looked at, I know there was that small locked area that we weren't really sure what we're going to do with. I I thought maybe that could be a small treatment area. With it being such a visible area, I'm sure a

lot of people would come to that location if they were looking for medical attention. Uh definitely having like an AED mounted in there with a medical bag. That way if somebody does come to the trailer looking for medical attention, any person whether it's police, fire, EMS is going to be capable of treating someone that gets brought to that location. Um, so I thought that could potentially be a use for that

smaller locked area that's in there so that we can do some basic first aid at that location for anybody who needed it.

Okay.

I appreciate that. Um, how big is that?

Cuz I didn't see the back part of the trailer. So, what is that like a storage section of the trailer? It's where the back bench was in the front and there was a little fridge. Yes. It's only like a closet. It's a cubby, but it's enough to put a band-aid on or do whatever.

Cuz in these events, most people who get skinned their knees and stuff.

Okay. And it definitely with it being such a a visible uh thing that's going to be at these events if someone is in need of attention or medical attention, I'm sure that's going to be the first location they're going to want to go to.

So, having some capabilities or if there is a higher acuity event, having like an AED easily accessible, that's always a sign to that apparatus is going to be a a good investment to have in that. Yeah, to the point that Deputy Acting Chief Horan made in the last meeting it's the attention of it. And added to that and like that and they see it and they know that's where I'm going for help.

So, I I I agree the medical bag, the AED, anything for on-scene care would be great. Um Counselor Oppose, Yeah, I just have two questions. Um as far as the funding component to how these improvements are being made, um out to the interim city administrator, um how is this being funded to do these repairs and modifications? Well, I mean the trailer is through EMS and the Chief has graciously uh offered the donation of

the trailer for the command center and what's being done so far has been covered by your division.

By EMS? Okay. Awesome. And then I know there's an email here from Chief Bacon who's not here this evening, but um I'm assuming and a lot of it has already been said based what he wrote here. Um but is there any I guess I want to call it any particular stations within this trailer for fire?

I know we mentioned police, we mentioned EMS. Where where does fire fit into this trailer per se?

I'll ask the I think there's the the workstations there would be universal.

Universal, okay.

So, there'd be a way to log in and do whatever. So, obviously um I think the the the elements of what we have is a lot of people have laptops that are enabled to. So, it's the work space area and then having like phones that are built in there. So, we run into capacity issues with cell phones when we're saturated. It came up during the snowstorm when we were all up at the

fire headquarters. There's you know, the cell capacity became an issue at certain points depending on how many people were up there. Um but as far as that trailer's concerned, it's really just giving a place to set up a workstation.

There will be physical computers in there, but it'll allow for work space essentially. So, I think the reporting component's different for like police and fire and EMS. They have their laptops, too. So, it's really just uh where we could hold briefings and things like that. And then obviously service low-level injuries and and EMS items like that. So, that's kind of the thought process. It's just the curb

appeal of it I think is the biggest thing and then creating a centralized thing that we can advertise like, "Hey, at a special event, look for this trailer." Um versus like, "Hey, look for the white pop-up tent that's left of the malasadas tent." You know what I mean?

I love I love that. You have a good one every meeting.

That's a good one. I'll write that one down. I yield. Thank you. Thank you.

Um I'm glad you brought that point up, too because everything we've done so far has been through in-house with the EMS. So, um I greatly appreciate that. It's going to make this process a heck of a lot easier to we can get this done, you know.

Um I had something, but it'll it'll come back to me. Uh Anne, got anything?

Um well, I did speak to uh Deputy Chief Horan earlier today about um the mayor's office process as parade permits. So, if there's a space on there that we may want to add something regarding the command center. So, when they go over to the police department for sign-off, if they feel that this command center would be warranted at that location just for that purpose for events, they could also

sign up there. I mean, I know for emergency preparedness it will be used um you know, for trainings and such and for a lot of other things, but that may help with events like we mentioned Day of Portugal, uh the feast. They have the so many activities that go along with it, especially the Holy Ghost Feast in August. Um so, you know, that's just a a really good event. That's something like

this which is greatly needed. Yeah.

Thank you. Um I do want to for the record say that I did speak to Chief Bacon, Fire Chief Bacon, and he's under the weather. He has been for a couple of days now and that's why he wasn't able to attend tonight. He did supply me with a list um that he thought would be pertinent on the fire department side and it pretty much touches upon what we've discussed, which would be the the

monitors, CAD, mapping, stuff like that.

Um the connectivity with Wi-Fi was one thing that he had mentioned.

That's something that the IT department, our IT at the police station's working on with that server rack. Excellent.

And there'll be multiple um multiple different Wi-Fis. All right. He also mentioned the exterior camera system, telescoping, um exterior lighting. Um what do we have for exterior lighting on that now? It's red, right? Didn't we discuss going red and blue?

I think we discussed that it has red lights. We were going to We have to get permission from police department, so we were going to try to do the red and blue combination on that trailer and just alternating lights. Um and I think Chris is working on trying to see if he can locate what kind of options we have for the telescoping lighting. Okay.

And so that we can do that. All right.

I'll see how we can get permission for the blue lights. I'll try to figure out how we can go about that.

now.

Thank you. Um Yeah, so everything's moving in the right direction. Uh Chief Fontes?

Um so, I think that we pretty much between Deputy Rooter and I we've uh done a pretty good job of trying to make a list of what we felt that we were going to need. I did talk to um Oliveira today and we had discussed because they just did an awning on the library um mobile unit. So, when I truck the trailer comes back, we'll see um if it's something that they think that they can

do or we need to send out to be done. I feel like since it's spring and it's camper season, I think that the turnaround is going to be difficult.

Okay. But he said that um him and his department will look at it to see if that's something that they can help and see if we can get it done relatively fast. Because as you were saying today that you feel like the sun and you don't want everybody out in the sun getting overheated. So, um I did talk to our maintenance division. They said it said that the jacks that we currently have on the

trailer are not really ever been a problem as far as leveling in the trailer. So, I felt that the awning should be a priority versus the self-leveling jacks. I think we're going to try to do it out of what we have for funding this year.

Um there is We need one more monitor, I believe. One We wanted to put one more monitor in there. So, um we can get that done. So, I think we should be able to um wrap this up and have it ready for action when we when we need it for the Gates of Portugal. It should be ready to go. Excellent. Thank you, Chief. Counselor Oppose? Yeah, I just had a question when it comes to

manpower. So, you mentioned the parade permit and this getting added to it at some point. And I guess to all the Chiefs that are here, does it add a necessary additional manpower if it's utilized in a in a civic event? So, I think there's some collective bargaining connection with the mechanics at the fire department that have the rights to move that or are the servicers for that trailer. Mhm. Um as far as how we man

that, I think one of the things that I've been working on and Captain Platt from our agency is kind of coming up with like uh a plan that that scales as far as like police resources uh because we're getting events that go from either 4 to 500 people to 5 to 6,000 people.

So, it's almost like I envision it to be kind of like a trifold uh brochure where someone's going to have an event here. What's the what's the looking at as what's the attendance look like? And then this is what we need to properly do this and be secure.

Mhm. So, we have a couple events that the July 4th event that's going to be down at the waterfront. We have seafood festival coming up on Memorial Day weekend. That's unique because the DCR oversees Heritage State Park and there's some territorial jurisdiction issues. Um and we met with the state police today in a collaborative effort to plan for that seafood seafood festival. That's a not

like a whole weekend event. It's a you know, I think it's 4 or 5 hours long. Um but we're kind of working on a footprint as far as what we need to propose to people as far as police resources cuz sometimes it gets misconstrued where they're like, "Oh, can't you just do it with like four police officers and one sergeant?" And it's like another event is getting a different footprint as it relates to

coverage. It needs to be standardized cuz there's a cost to do that and we want to make sure we have the resources in place. I think I can speak for all entities that we'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Makes sense. And let me just ask you a follow-up, Acting Chief Horan, is the any events that happen at the Norton Pier? Is there anything that needs to be

in that command center that's particular to possible water issues? So, I think Chief Bacon had brought up in the past that that trailer's been used for like their water rescue operation. So, I think given something that's near the water, if there's something happening, I know there's going to be the poker run coming up. Uh there's an event planned down by the Gates of the City for that

uh with Borden Light Marina and what have you. So, I think depending on where it's being deployed and what the opportunity areas are, then yeah, it could be equipped to have that stuff there. Um but as far as the pier is concerned, we have to speak with the RDA on as far as what they're looking at from us, but I would envision the same thing. If it's a pier-related event, here's the standard plan and it scales

based on attendance. Okay. That's good.

[clears throat] Anybody else want to add to that? I feel like if the poker run is going to run like it's run in the past and it's going to run from the Tipsy Seagull, there's no way that you're going to get that command trailer down there. So, logistically we just have to look at you know, the biggest bang for your buck. We still have that little ambulance that we

um we use at the events. And so, that'll still be deployed with the trailer. So, we'll have those both of those available at the events. And he um Chief Ware has you know, men on bikes. We have men on bikes or people on bikes. So, we we should be able to uh handle it really well, I think. Do you Do you all envision that something like this will be in play for for like for

example, July 4th at this point? Yes, sir. We're shooting for May 16th. Even better. It's great. Thank you all for this. This is excellent. I think the first the first dry run could potentially be that seafood festival cuz it's a short short and not Wednesday short event, but it's not a week-long weekend-long event. So, we can put it out there, get some repetitions through it, and then get some feedback on that

because we've we've deployed with the MA before down near the carousel. So, we were already speaking with the organizer of that event of where the footprint of this will be or where we can put it. So, if we standardize that, hey, if the July 4th event is going to be down at the carousel in the park, this is where we're going to have the police resources. And the same thing with the

state police, they're just like, hey, tell us where your target area is, and then we'll deploy there as well. And then that way it's like a public safety courtyard, if you will.

Excellent. Thank you all. I yield. Okay.

Thank you, counselor. I I can add to the point of the water response. Chief Bacon did mention to me that his scuba divers currently um when they go out, don't have a place to change back and forth in and out of their scuba gear. So, we could even the trailer could, you know, serve that purpose as well. Um I think that this trailer can obviously wear multiple hats um and definitely assist

these agencies in a very fruitful way.

Um Anybody have anything else?

So, I know what we we had had discussions today about um the date that we were going to bring this out. Um that is still up in the air, but I can say tentatively that May 16th date um even if we were to shoot for that, it seems like we're well on on track to accomplish that. So, I appreciate you guys. Uh if there's nothing further, do I have a

That would be for this City Rec Block Party or the Seafood Festival on the 25th. So, I know you had mentioned the City Rec Block Party, but I don't know if there was a place to park the trailer during that.

concerns because we're going to be starting the demolition of the old police station as well. Okay.

So, that area is Now, that's that's the old 45 Rock, that building, right?

And And that's the May 16th event.

So, if we can get um the awning and maybe get things consolidated, if everybody agrees, then I think maybe we could do a press release and I think make the make the citizens of Fall River aware of the fact that we're taking this proactive approach to try to make sure that when this trailer's there and we're having an event, it's so everybody can be safe. Mhm.

I also think to Anne's point that um if it doesn't necessarily need to be standardized in every event that someone has in the city cuz there's there's limitations to where that trailer can go. So, I think when the when an attendance to an event is expected to be somewhere, you know, in a north of 7 800 people, then and depending where it's at. So, the Gates of the City, again, I envision that this

is the operational plan for Gates of the City. That's an event that's like the, you know, fairgrounds of Fall River, if you will. And then it scales based on the size of the event. But uh trying to get that trailer like I wouldn't be using that trailer from a police perspective for at the scene of a critical incident like, you know, a homicide or something like that because if it's on a tight roadway, it's

probably more work to get it out there and set it up. Uh we would probably just use our smaller mobile command post instead cuz it's more functional for that. So, I think it really has to be spelled out in the SOP like what's the limitations, what is the purpose, and that way it doesn't get convoluted to when we can use it. Okay. Thank you.

Just one one more thing. I just would like to um acknowledge that um Xavier Arruda did get the design done and did get it to the to that place pretty quick. So, kudos to him for Yeah, I know. It was like 2 days cuz I think we talked for 2 days and it was already in in the works.

Well, he works fast. [clears throat] Yeah, I know. I like that. Thank you.

Um one thing that did catch my attention um in the conversation tonight was that Poker Run. That's the cigarette boat races. Mhm. I would really like to see if we can do some proactive homework as to where we could put that trailer down there because I for one think if let's say, God forbid, something happens down there, it's not going to look good if we just create I'm worried about the water,

right? And the that type of situation, how to get in and out if there's an emergency. I think there's there's this one confusion on that. So, the Poker Run does its thing on the water, which is makes it a complicated event cuz we've had issues out there before where there's been accidents. But the Poker Run's expanding to have an actual event at the Gates of the City that's going to

showcase all the boats, kind of like a boat show type thing.

So, that's what I was referring to, not necessarily what's happening out on the waterfront cuz I think logistically Mr. Lund would probably have a heart attack if we try to park that down at the the marina.

Yeah, I don't think he'd like that too much.

No. So, I think He's got a nice big park and a lot of grass across the street, though. Yeah, of course. But I think they charge just 10 bucks to use it. But but logistically it it splits up your services, right? Because for EMS, we have to be worried about because I think both Mike and I both had um people that have been significantly impacted by their boats rolling over.

So, um it'll it'll definitely split um how our response is somewhat. So, that'll have to be planned.

Okay. If there's nothing further, um I'd like to maybe depending on the um Go ahead, counselor.

No, I was I was going to say maybe we want to table cuz I would like to hear more information after it's put put [clears throat] together, done, and utilized, and then maybe come back and just have a discussion about, you know, what were the goods, what are the things we need to work on. If there's any support from this committee or the council we need to put forward, we can

do that. So, I'll entertain I'll put forward a motion to table. Second. Uh with the motion being made to table and seconded, all those in favor?

I. I. Motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn has been made. Second. Seconded, all those in favor?

I. I. I's have it.

Thank you, guys. I appreciate it.