The Fall River Board of Library Trustees met to discuss library operations, building maintenance, and board leadership. The meeting began with the approval of the April meeting minutes after several corrections were noted regarding dates and phrasing. Library Director Felicia Desar delivered a comprehensive report highlighting a significant increase in staff-led programming, which has boosted patron engagement and reduced costs. She discussed the expansion of the 'Library of Things' collection with items like keyboards and telescopes, funded by the city budget as part of a state-mandated materials expenditure. The director also provided updates on building repairs, noting that contractors discovered missing flashing on the entire building, which was the cause of severe leaks. This repair is now underway. Other building issues, such as HVAC leaks and internal drains, were also discussed. The board held its election for officers. Ron Kaplain was re-elected as Chairperson and Sharon Quinn was elected as Vice Chairperson in a unanimous vote. Under new business, a discussion arose regarding the public nature of meetings held in the library, specifically concerning the Friends of the Library, a non-profit group. The director maintained that the library's room use policy requires all meetings on the premises to be open to the public. Finally, Chairperson Ron Kaplain proposed a 'Lego Night' for September, after which he would donate his extensive Lego collection to be auctioned off. He asked the board to consider where the proceeds should be directed—the Friends, the foundation, or the library itself—and requested the item be placed on the next meeting's agenda.
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0:01Ronald Kaplain here.
0:03Ann Rocket Sperling here. Sharon Quinn here. Bran Rackland's absent. James Gibney um absent. Tim Long here.
0:11Eddie Gmont here.
0:12Melissa Fley here.
0:14Paula Cullen here.
0:15And I am Felicia Desar the director and Kayla King is absent today. Um so we do have her statistics with us but she will not be able to. Pursuant to the open meeting law, any person may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or they may transmit the meeting through any medium. Attendees are therefore advised that such recordings or transmissions are being made whether
0:41they are perceived or unpersceived by those present and are deemed acknowledged and permissible. Can I keep this?
0:48Yes.
0:49Okay. You do not being taped now.
0:52Yes.
0:53Okay. the minutes of the previous meeting. Did everybody get both sets of minutes?
0:58Yes.
0:58Okay. Let's take a vote on the first one set from not the last meeting but the meeting before. That would be the March meeting, right?
1:07Okay.
1:08That is that what I thought one was corrected or that's the March meeting. We sent the correction.
1:13Well, we already we already made a motion for that one. It's now you know the last time at the last meeting we already accepted those with the corrections.
1:21We did.
1:21Yes.
1:22Yeah. I'm losing it.
1:23No, you're not. No, you're not. I just want to make sure we do the right thing.
1:26Yeah.
1:27Okay. So, we have the April meeting then. Then I will take a vote unless any have corrections or admissions.
1:35Some corrections.
1:36Okay.
1:37Uh it says minutes of the previous meeting February 14 and it should be u March 11.
1:49You mean where the number three the Okay. You had March 14. Uh, you had February 4th instead of March 11.
1:59Details. Details. Okay. I will I will um I'll address that. And then was will we need another vote on this next time or can we let this go and let her just make the correction?
2:12Yeah, it would be fine with me.
2:15Yeah. Yeah. We can pass a major issue. I don't think to change the date.
2:19So, just change the date.
2:21Absolutely. I could change.
2:22Okay, then I'll take a vote.
2:23Well, I just wanted another thing to um in that paragraph when you you mentioned that I had asked to have that um line omitted. Um I had reiterated what Ron had said and that was the line that had to be omitted from the um from the motion. Uh but the then the next line it says trustee mentioned concerns. So if I were to read that and anybody reads it, they'll see P. Cullen and you read that
2:46line and then it says trustee mentioned concerns of the library director. You would assume that it was me uh saying that and it it wasn't me and I'm saying although we don't put all names but you read that it's you know unless you have um I can move it to the next line.
3:02Yeah. If you have a paragraph and a new paragraph I can create there.
3:09Okay. I'll take a vote therefore with the correction.
3:14Was there first?
3:15I wasn't here so I didn't want to make the motion. But did someone make the motion?
3:18No.
3:19I'll make a motion.
3:20Second.
3:21All in favor?
3:22I I Okay, we're ready to move on to the statistics.
3:29Um, so I passed out the statistics. I know Kayla was excited to talk about two new statistics today. I don't know if you want to wait till um my report to kind of talk a little bit about the different digital resources that we've gotten because that's what they related to. Um so I think it might make sense if because I didn't expect uh that she wouldn't be here today. I didn't really
3:51know exactly what she was going to point out other than that. So if if you might take a look at them and then if you have any questions about them, direct them to her. I could talk about the specifics to stats that she was going to talk about.
4:03Is that okay with everybody?
4:05Okay. Uh it takes time to go over them anyways and uh so it's a good idea if you do have any questions or corrections or I don't think we could have corrections but if you have any questions give Kayla a call.
4:21Okay.
4:22Okay. We're ready to move on to the library directors.
4:26All right. So um my report as always I listed all the programs that we are offering uh this month. it. The list seems to keep getting bigger and bigger.
4:36I think that's because our staff are wanting to offer more and more themselves. So, that's really great.
4:42It's um it's limiting the amount of costs that we have associated with programming and then also expanding the numbers of programming that we're able to offer. Uh so, spring has started off really great. Uh construction has started. So, I'm witnessing a lot of staff uh integrating skills from both departments. So, we have reference and circulation working on the same floor now. Um, and so they're helping each
5:06other out a lot. We have some circulation staff. You'll see them on the main floor helping reference in the computer lab.
5:15And then we have some of those staff learning some of the obituary requests, how to do those kinds of things. And then we have new library assistants learning how to catalog. So, there's an awful lot of work. It seems to be picking up. I'm not sure if it's because all of the workstations are centralized in that area, but they've told me that it's getting really, really busy. Um, and so they've been staying very busy,
5:35but they haven't let that slow them down. The programs that the staff are offering are doing really, really great.
5:42They're building slow and steady growth for attendance. So, patrons are having more reasons to visit us. Uh, and they're making connections with our staff, which I think is really important. So, it's kind of allowing us to be a space that people can come outside of home and test out new hobbies, new interests, different things like that. And I think that it's really important that our staff are offering
6:02this because they're they're taking their own interests, bringing it into work, which I think makes work enjoyable, more enjoyable for them uh to change it up on a daily basis and kind of find a way that it can be unique to them. And then they're they're making connections with different patrons who are interested in different styles of things. Uh, so I just wanted to touch on some of the programs that our staff are
6:26offering that that it's our staff like our on-site staff that are offering these programs. So we have book clubs, we've got a variety of books, book clubs sci-fi fantasy historical fiction, our books and tea club, which is a little bit for people who want to test out different kinds of books. So there's no required reading for that one. They get to choose their own book, which works for a lot of people who
6:47don't like assigned reading. Uh we have the band books club and then we have hands-on educational work workshops.
6:55So we have our writer group, knitting club, photography club, comics club, o open draw.
7:02Gosh, bless you.
7:02Bless you.
7:03Thank you.
7:04Um and then we're starting to have more community aid programs which has been really really great. Uh we've had ESL, English as a second language conversation group, um community resource fair, which has been really awesome and everyone's wanting to participate in that. And then we have collaborative entertainment for those people who it's really hard to get them in the door. Um, and some of those
7:24things are Magic the Gathering, which we've started up again, team game night, Lego night, all offered by our staff.
7:31So, I just kind of wanted to highlight that because our staff are not um asked individually to offer these groups. They often volunteer to do this. And so, I think it's really important to kind of highlight that they're doing this um based on their own desires to kind of expand. and then create a you know an ecosystem of like sharing in the library.
7:53They must be happy to do that volunteering.
7:56Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so they they are doing on work time. I want to be clear.
7:59They're not doing this. They shouldn't be doing this on unpaid time, but I mean it's volunteering in the way of they could be sitting on the desk and you know not doing the things that it takes a lot of planning and those kinds of things. Also social interaction um that could be tough for some people. I myself I have a hard time with being in front of a group. So, we also have staff
8:20members that do have a hard time, you know, like uh standing and speaking in front of people. Those staff members are also engaging people. Uh they're creating a bunch of displays. I'm not sure if you see those um when you're like walking through the lobby. There's so many different displays um that our staff are making. So, if they're less um performative individuals or they're not as comfortable with hands-on um
8:43techniques in instruction, they often they fulfill the same uh the same role of connecting with the staff just in a different way. Um yeah, so cool.
8:55I've lost my place. Um yeah, you we're finishing with the collaborative entertainment.
9:01Yeah. Yeah. Um, so, so I it just makes me feel like, uh, we're doing really expansive things and I'm hearing some good feedback from our patrons. I think I think it's really, really great.
9:11Uh, in the realm of construction and our reference room, we've started the process of having the in-depth asbestous testing done on the floors within the reference room to understand the flooring composition, make sure that our staff are safe, um, so that we have a better idea before we move into that flooring project what we're dealing with. So, they took 25 different samples from that room. Um, so that is the Davis
9:35room and then the ramp. So, that's what we're looking at right now. I'm waiting for the results of those. Um, we also teamed up with the Department of Cemeteries and Trees to give away dogwood and maple tree saplings to our residents and patrons to plant for the future, which was really cool. Um, yeah, we we got some positive feedback on that, too. We didn't realize they were going to go as fast as they did. Um, and
9:57I know that some of these the it's kind of nice to team up with different departments to try to reach people or reach different audiences because I think when you reach out to cemeteries, you know, they have a certain certain level of individuals that they're able to kind of reach out to and get engaged and then when we team up we can kind of meet both so we get new patrons too. Um, we're really excited to
10:20share that circulations extended their library of things collection again. Uh so this includes amazing items such as keyboards, synthesizers, wakecom drawing tablets, GPS, GPS navigation devices, te te telescopes. So uh we really wanted to expand the library of things, but we're having a hard time in space. Of course, in any library, space is a concern, especially when we're trying to take on
10:45instruments such as this nature. Um, so our head of circulation has been tasked with coming up with some smaller scale um, musical instruments and things that people can kind of start a new hobby and maybe get into something new for the springtime without having to spend so much money on figuring out if that's something that they really enjoy or if it's just something that they want to
11:08dabble with. And then if they really like it, they can they can move on and, you know, go further with it. maybe um either borrow it more often or or um purchase their own instruments.
11:20How are these purchased with with our um with with our city budget?
11:25So, it is a material. Yep. So, it can count for uh towards a certain amount of that can count towards our materials expenditure, which is really good. Um so, and who determines what what what you purchase? You um at at the end level? Yes. So, normally I would kind of delegate that to my staff to send suggestions, make sure that it works in their departments because I wouldn't want to order a bunch
11:49of stuff that, you know, would be a burden to take care of. So, most of the time it's based off of their recommendations and then that's filtered through me.
11:57Um, so at the end of the day, I'll I'll end up deciding.
12:01Could I just ask you to go back to the saplings? Uh, were they just they you they'd been given out? Is that it? Were they given out here? Yep.
12:08And how did people know that they were available? Uh, we posted that on Instagram. I believe Kayla posted it on Facebook. Um, and then we had the flyer.
12:17It was in the lobby, so anyone walking, people came in. Oh, that was great.
12:21Yeah, I think I think the cemeteries posted it on their Instagram as well.
12:24So, I think that's how we caught some different Good idea.
12:27People um, and what about on on your on your monthly uh menu? Does she post it there?
12:36Oh, on the newsletter? Yeah. I'm not sure if the newsletter had gone out prior to that, but she could have posted it on there. To be honest, there is so much going on. She often cannot fit everything on there. There really is.
12:48Our calendar is so packed. She has a hard time fitting um even events in this room. We have so many staff members that are asking to offer things and we're trying to Tetris the rooms. Um and even we're we're borrowing the needle room from Emily sometimes, which she's been really positive about. So sometimes during her workday if she's out, we're using that room as space to have Why don't you compartmentalize it? In
13:10other words, have one newsletter, the things you have available. Uh another one programs that you have so that you don't have to put it all on one and it becomes too much for everybody to read.
13:24Yeah. Um that's an idea.
13:26I I'm going to throw it by Kayla. I know she's got a whole lot.
13:30Okay. Just an idea for you.
13:32Yeah. I'll I'll I'll I'll give her the suggestion.
13:36How often do some of these items like come back damage? Like what's the lifpan on like a musical keyboard that people are borrowing on a regular basis?
13:44So the answer is it really depends. So we have Nintendo Switches. Sometimes they will go and they'll never come back. Sometimes we'll have one that just stays for years. It really it really is a game of chance. Um the thing with that is we have uh due to our state aid we have a certain amount that we are required to spend on materials and so we end up actually having a large amount of
14:07money that we have to spend on materials and it kind of keeps our budget pretty healthy where we don't really want for anything when it comes to materials which is really nice. That's a nice thing to be able to say as a library. um we we have a required amount of spending and so that can go towards books, towards electronic resources, all those kinds of things. So since we have that
14:29amount to spend annually, it's mostly becomes um what is most important for us to spend money on versus do we have the money to spend? We have money to spend.
14:39It's more about what are people wanting and what can we get people in the door.
14:43Uh because books don't always do it. So, we have the books and we continue to invest in the books, but we find that sometimes the instruments and stuff that can get people who never would have come in through our doors to come in and then see something else going on like a program or something like that.
14:58And how long do they get to keep these for?
15:01Uh, normally we try to keep it pretty standard. So, it's normally 2 weeks. Um, those items can't be renewed, but it's based on like first come first person ask like if someone comes and gets like a GPS navigation device to what go on a road trip and then bring it back when they come back.
15:18Yeah. I mean, if you want to go hiking and most of these things are experimental, so we'll try something new and if it doesn't work out, we'll only buy one or two of them and then if it works out great, we'll buy more. If it doesn't work out, we'll say, "Okay, maybe that's not a great idea." And is that money did you say from the state?
15:34No.
15:35No. So the money is from the city, but the state requires that we get a certain amount of it and we're able city provides it though.
15:41Yes. Yeah. So uh so yeah.
15:44Cool.
15:45Thank you.
15:46You're welcome.
15:48Any questions?
15:51I don't think you're done right.
15:53I'm not done with the whole report. Um but so there's You have to read it.
15:58Oh yeah. Um I won't read No, we have to read it. Oh yes. Um David Millow's naming of the children's room is going to be happening soon. I just wanted to put that on the naming the naming of the children's room. I think we had a conversation about that in maybe December or uh early in the year.
16:15So uh that's still on our radar. We haven't forgotten about that. We're going to be making the plaque and we have asked Mr. Melo how he would like to go about celebrating that if he wants to attach it to an event. So I'm waiting to hear back from him. Uh, I know he's got some staff that aren't with us in the children's room at the moment, so we might wait till there's more people that
16:34are able to be present.
16:36We should do something big for him.
16:38Yeah. I mean, I I'm willing to hear ideas. I I also I know he wanted to talk to his staff and since it's such a small group, I figured I'd let them, you know, decide what feels really comfortable for them.
16:50Maybe you should meet privately with him because if he meets with them, I think he might be too modest to Yeah.
16:58accept what they say.
16:59Yeah. I I think I think we've had a we've had a couple conversations about it and I think that I think it'll be a good it'll be a good event and I think that he'll we'll make sure he feels comfortable with how it goes.
17:12And he's not retiring at I know every once in a while he says, "Oh, but not at this point." He is so enthusiastic. I got to tell you, I don't think he could retire.
17:23I Yeah, I think that myself.
17:25There's a lot going on outside though with the masks and different things.
17:28Yeah.
17:28Yeah.
17:30Did everybody get to see his exhibit at the house? Oh, yeah.
17:34Yes. It was great.
17:35It was phenomenal.
17:38Are we ready to move on?
17:40Um, so I have a couple different things to talk about. So, we have a new resource palace. I wanted to talk to you about this because this is going to be one of our new statistics. Um, and we have research.
17:52It's an electronic resource. So, it's called Palace. And so, we have multiple digital resources. And this one puts them all kind of in one place or puts most of them all in one place, I should say. So, if you have a hold either available on Libby or um if you have a hold on Hoopla, it should show up uh in your in your app in the Palace app, which is really great. Um, so we have
18:14Palace and we are getting comics plus and Beanstack which we're really excited about as well. So this is another way that we can use some of that funding for um for materials is digital resources.
18:25So what we've been looking for is kind of digital resources that we could get the most bang for our buck. So with Comics Plus, we do have Comics Club and that's going really well and we see a lot of our comics being borrowed digitally. So with this one, it's unlimited the amount of borrows that we can get. So, um, when we have the comics club, everyone in that club can read the
18:48book at the same time, which is really nice because we haven't had that ability before.
18:54And and also uh Beanstack. So, Beanstack is also going to help us with summer reading. So, that can help us um meet different uh reading challenges. People will be able to have a shelf where they can store all of their books. And also for our very tech-savvy individuals, it's reward based. So once you check off a certain amount of reading it will give you badges um and you will be able to
19:16kind of track your progress either through hours or pages and that is it.
19:20That is my report. What is your relationship with AI in here? Do you use any?
19:27So our relationship with AI is complicated because you have to accept it because it's it is here and no matter what when we're working with our digital resources we found that it's impossible to ignore.
19:40So the way that we use it is we we try to work with companies that are transparent about it. So we've had different digital resource companies who have kind of hidden that the materials are AI generated. We don't really like that. Uh especially if people are trying to come to the library for research materials, things like that. We want to make sure that they feel comfortable about the materials that we are giving
20:06them. And so we try to work with companies that even if they must work with AI because at this point they basically all are, it is not something that is outside of the realm of possibility. They are they are almost all working with um AI as a format. We ask that they label them or that there's a way that we can kind of separate those out to at least be transparent with our
20:29with our patrons that this is what they are borrowing. Um and then if we are doing collection development, we try not to purchase AI content because it doesn't really support the authors. Um and two, it's kind of difficult to assure that the quality control is there and that this is actual genuine information that was you know peer reviewed those kinds of things. Um, so we just we have a better feeling about
20:58buying things that are written by authors. And do you have a subscription to any AI? So if a client comes in and they ask you some questions that you can go say yes, use our chat GBT.
21:18Um I I'm not sure I know exactly what you mean in what in what way.
21:24In other words, I use chat GBT all the time.
21:27I have a subscription to it. Okay. When I go on and I ask a question, I can get unlimited questions answered. I was wondering if the library has such a thing.
21:39So 100% correct answers you get. Yeah, you you not sure but you do get good answers. I have to tell you it is amazing and it does amazing things. I mean I I have doing working with some pictures of mine and I have them integrating them. I ask them health questions about medications. I ask them for photography ideas. It's amazing. Uh I was wondering if you have a subscription to something like that uh
22:13for your customers here.
22:15So I don't have a subscription to AI. It is it is available for free though. So yes, but only in a limited way.
22:23Um I'm not sure I'm not sure what area of funding we'd be able to take that from mostly because it's not necessarily a material. Um I would also think you'd be taken away from the reference staff. That's their job. You know, when somebody comes into a library and they need to know something and they need to do research, they go to the reference librarian.
22:44That's the job here.
22:45Well, they can search the stuff for them.
22:47They they could also go on to check GPT.
22:51Uh or they could also give them something to hold in their hand that they could look at. So, there there's both alternates. I feel the same way when I go to CVS that it's someone's job to cash me out, but they'll accept me and make me do it myself.
23:08So, I know that a lot of the staff uh will utilize it. So, sometimes when you see our displays, there'll be the library with a bunch of like botanical things because they're doing a gardening display. Those are created with AI. I feel a particular way about it, but they definitely like it. Um, so they definitely know how to use it and they know how to help someone in using it. I
23:28think that it's important though if they are coming in for reference related things that we kind of um teach them the traditional ways of of where to find the information through our resources so that they don't lose the skills.
23:40You could give them the choice.
23:43Yeah, they Yeah, they they always have a choice.
23:47Or you could give them both.
23:48Yeah.
23:50Okay. Think about it.
23:53How much is the subscription to that?
23:55It it varies. It runs it could run about $40 a month.
24:00Uh I have to tell you, I had pictures of my wife and myself and we looked like deathbed over. So I said to Chat GPT, "Put a smile on our face."
24:12So we could have pictures of the two of us with smiles.
24:15It is amazing.
24:16It's it it it's mindboggling for someone like me anyways, but I love it.
24:24Okay. It's food for thought.
24:26Yeah.
24:27Okay. Should we move on? Okay. The election of the board of trustees. I think uh so last month I presented the slate for the G Riverville Public Library Board of Trustees. Um as Ron Kaplain, chairperson, and Sharon Quinn as vice chairperson. So this month I'm as we're asking that people vote on it.
24:51Right. Okay. Do you want us to leave the room?
24:55No.
24:56No.
24:56Well, um, we need a quirm.
25:00No. No. They'd leave the room while we discuss it and then come back. Maybe.
25:04Yes.
25:05Okay. Go ahead.
25:07Okay.
25:08Go bad about me.
25:10I'll be trying to listen through the door. Since it's being as we want people to think um the the bottom line is no one else is interested.
25:24So if some so I mean it makes it easy.
25:28Uh Jim had served for years and he had asked to come off and Sharon graciously had said she would assume the role. So does anyone have any thoughts or objections or objections? That's fine. I think it'll be good.
25:43Okay. So, they I guess they might not vote. So, we So, how many people are on the board? I don't know. Well, there's only actually Well, it's Who's There's two people out in those two. So, we still have a quorum on the floor.
25:56So, I'd like um to present that slate.
25:59Ron as chairperson, Sharon as vice chairperson.
26:02So, moved.
26:04All in favor?
26:05Opposed? Tim second.
26:07Yeah. started voting on first and second.
26:12Okay. All in favor?
26:16Okay. So, was that Let's let them swat.
26:20Yeah.
26:22Stop yelling at each other.
26:25Fine.
26:33Speech. So, thank you for accepting the nomination and agreeing to serve Ron and Sharon.
26:39Well, thank you all.
26:40Thank you.
26:41Now, do we vote on this now?
26:42We voted since we did have a quarum.
26:44Oh, you did? Okay. Well, thank you all.
26:47But, as I say, this is going to be I'd like to stay on the board, but I would also like to give the uh chairmanship to somebody else.
27:02I don't like the face.
27:04So, for now, you're on the board and we're good to go.
27:07Good. Okay. Unfinished business.
27:11Uh, that was part of unfinished business. Unfinished business. The LPC building repairs.
27:17So, I just wanted to give you updates.
27:19Um, they found that why the leaks were so bad is because the flashing was never put on the building.
27:26So, where is the flashing?
27:29On the top.
27:30The parit. So basically the outside of the stones and they only realized this when they started taking those off to do the what they were doing. So now they are doing the entire exterior of the building.
27:42Good.
27:42Yes.
27:43So when they quoted it they didn't when they come out to court the job they didn't figure that out at that point.
27:48So that wasn't really part of what they were doing. So these guys I will say have no fault in this matter. In fact, they actually did some scooby-Dooing and found out that this was an issue, which if they did not know that it was an issue or they didn't figure it out, uh we'd still be in this predicament and they would have done the work that they were paid to do.
28:06So, uh so this is really good uh for us.
28:09So, and that also means again that's the entire building. So, I'm sure that we'll see the leaks on the other side, right, slow a lot, right? So, we're getting way more than we Yeah. Good.
28:22Yeah. The only thing I'm going to ask you is I remember at the end of last year, end of last summer, we were having leaks from the air conditioning. Yes, that's going to be another issue. I think that should be thought of and it will uh I am I'm in discussion talking back and forth. I think there's so much going on with our building right now. I I am kind of giving it a little
28:47bit of time because I know that there's a lot of money that's going into that.
28:49Also, there's a lot of uh new new stuff like the other side of the building.
28:54They're doing additional work that they didn't plan on doing. So, I think that it's really good that they're doing this much um this year. And so, I know that Hback I'm not certain it was in the cards for this year, but that doesn't mean that I stopped mentioning it. I continuously mention it. Um and I I personally know that there's some specific problem areas that we need resolved. So, I keep bringing attention
29:17back to those. I think it's important because after this is done, so you'll prevent any leaks inside, but if you have leaks from the air conditioning, it's going to compound.
29:31Yeah. Another thing that I had realized that I'm starting to question myself because a lot of those that AC techs that come in, they'll look into the walls and they'll say there's a leak coming in. This must must be from not having insulation. And it seems a bit questionable that the amount of water is coming from not having pipes insulated.
29:52And I was reading a past construction document from the 80s from 85. I think you were the assistant. Were you the assistant administrator during a certain not? No, not 85.
30:03I was here, but not really.
30:06In 1985, I was here. Yeah. Yeah. I was here.
30:09Not okay. Um I thought I saw your name in the documents. That's why. Yeah. Um, so I was reading about it and it said that there was a 1995 1995 maybe it might have been in a different document in the same in the same area.
30:25Um, but so there's drains that are on the building and at first there used to be two and then they suggested that we have four and the drains are inside of the walls. So they keep suggesting in those documents every 10 years or so that we add more drains. So, it's something that I'm going to bring to the attention of Al um because I'm not sure that I've ever seen that before. But the
30:49drains are quite literally they just look like um giant rectangles that are through the walls of the building. And so I'm wondering if some of these AC leaks might be where there's actual drains because they've said that that we need to add more drains to the building because the building is so large. It started with two, then they went to four, they suggested another two. And so it's just something that I'm going to
31:10bring to their attention.
31:11Good. Um, yeah. So, just just so it's on the radar. I'm learning way more than I ever should about production.
31:18Yeah. Um, but it's it's interesting stuff. So, so yeah, we'll see.
31:24Any other old business? New business?
31:27Well, we uh uh Eddie and I attended the Friends U board meeting uh this past um um end of April and it it went well. You know, it did. And too bad a lot of the members, some of them were ill and they um were not able to attend. Um the only concern I had was I reading the minutes that um I guess you you had quoted to them or something saying um that they're
31:49a public meeting, anything that's in a library. Um that's the only concern I had because um they're not a public meeting. Uh there's actually they're private, you know, that it's not open to the public.
32:00So if there any any meeting that happens in this building is public, it has to be legally. Uh, I don't think so. I don't think so.
32:08The friends is a nonprofit organization, so they it's in our policy, but that would be just like if any other nonprofit organization would use the building.
32:18They have to be open to the public and we express that to them.
32:22Yeah. But um it is under the Yeah, you would have to look you'd have to look into that and let us know where you find I have. It's about and also with a nonprofit organization because it's you know they're they're private meeting. I mean, they're when they're filing, that's a public thing, but when they have their meetings, it's a private meeting. It's the nonprofit organization. They don't have to open it
32:42up to and they do their minutes within their organization.
32:46I think the difference is if they're booking their meetings here in our meeting rooms, they would always have to be here because they're the friends of the library, the Fall River Public Library.
32:54Well, they if they're nonprofit, they could be, and you're saying what you're saying, they could be anywhere. Yeah, we're having the same issue at Mass Maritime actually with our Yeah, I think that they're meeting at a restaurant next time. So, I mean they do definitely have meetings in different places. Um so, but just our room use policy dictates that any groups that are in here and that is for our meetings that
33:20is for if if someone comes in and they're teaching a class that has to be open and available to the public. I remember that was a big thing when the when the um I don't I don't even know if I with the uh drag um story time or whatever and the whole public meeting or not public meet whatever it was that everyone because we were getting people that didn't want it showing up and
33:41causing chaos at the meetings and it would became a but we couldn't because it was in the library. That's why those left the library because of that situation and they wanted to be able to limit who could go and who couldn't go and we were like we can't say who can come in and who can't at the library.
33:57Well that's that's an event but it is an event. So I don't know if it's the same but I don't remember that. Yeah I would think that would you look into that for us?
34:06I could look into it again but I I know the answer. Um yeah we we had to look into it for for the policy and so I I do know that that is the case. I'm not I do not need to double check on that. I'm sorry.
34:17Okay. Well, we Well, why don't you just bring that policy to us in the next meeting?
34:21Yeah.
34:22And if it's a policy that's written, we maybe we want to relook at that. We did just vote on it, but I can absolutely update you with it.
34:31So, Felicia, are you saying like just for example, suppose a group of realtors or board of realtors, they ask to use this room because they have nowhere to meet, they have to allow the public to come in and sit in on their meeting.
34:43Yep. It has to be.
34:44Yeah, but they they would probably be that wouldn't be uh a nonprofit organization. Okay.
34:49You know, I'm talking about nonprofit organizations.
34:53Are you are you concerned that they wouldn't want people to attend? Because I think that they're looking for more members.
34:58Oh, no. No. I know they're looking for members, but that's that would be it's open to the membership I at any time that they want to come to the to the board meeting, you know.
35:09But I'm just saying like their records are not public. That's what I mean. So you're telling me that meeting wasn't filmed?
35:14Their records are No, it wouldn't be filmed. It's a nonprofit organization. They would have to have it filmed.
35:18Say if their records are brought to me in library business, because I'm a public library, any records that I have are public record any.
35:31So because the friends of the library are a nonprofit organization that has partnered with the library, my records are public record. My feeling is because they are part of the library that they are public.
35:46Yeah. And I do I don't think that they would be concerned with their it's it's concerning the library and therefore it should be public as as is the foundation.
35:57You guys are welcome to come.
35:58Yeah, that's I I I don't think they would be upset if if individuals wanted to get I don't think they would be either.
36:06Okay, let's move on. Uh, any other new business? I'm I want to just throw something out to you to think for the next meeting. I've been in touch with David Nelo. Uh, I don't know if you saw, but I have some of my Legos on on display right now, and he wanted to be here, but he he couldn't be here this afternoon.
36:29He's thinking of doing a Lego night in September and making the whole library a Lego uh and he's going to take all my Legos and bring them in here.
36:41Oh boy.
36:42And display them and I have a ton of them.
36:45They are all over the place. Okay. When this is over at the end of September, I don't want them back.
36:52Okay. I would like to auction them off, but I'd like to know you to think about where the money will go. Will it go to the friends? Will it go to the foundation? Or will it go to the library itself?
37:05So, think about it.
37:06So, should I put that on the agenda for next?
37:08Yes, please.
37:10How many Legos do you have to sell to get an air conditioner unit?
37:14A lot. No, you really don't. These are Some of these are this big.
37:18Legos are so expensive now, too. It's like you buy one this size, it's hard. I I work on them every single night.
37:25Oh my gosh.
37:26How long have you been amassing this collection?
37:31Seven years.
37:32Oh, seven. Yeah. You just got started not too long ago.
37:35You just got started not too long ago.
37:37Yeah.
37:39But I love doing it. It's something that I just enjoy. I enjoy the process.
37:44That's all it is is a process. So, think about what you'd like to do with the money.
37:49I love that.
37:50Okay. I hope that it would bring in several thousand dollars to wherever it goes.
37:55All right.
37:58Okay. We have no citizens to input.
38:01Unless you would like to No, I don't think so.
38:06Uh you're the only citizen here at the Filmer. Do you have anything you want to say? Okay. I'll take a motion for adjournment.
38:15So move.
38:16Second.
38:17Second.
38:18All in favor?
38:19I. No opposed