The Fall River City Council Committee on Health & Environmental Affairs convened to address several community concerns. Justin Sylvia, a resident of 417 Albany Street, reported severe and recurring sewer backups in his basement, estimating over 2,000 gallons during a recent storm. Paul Frerich, Administrator of Community Utilities, explained that the area has a combined sewer system prone to overwhelming during heavy rains and recommended homeowners install backflow valves and disconnect downspouts, but stated the city would not fund these private improvements. Frerich agreed to send a supervisor to inspect Sylvia's home. The committee also discussed ongoing complaints regarding 222 Peckham Street, owned by Victor DeSilva. Building Commissioner Glenn Hathaway reported some compliance from DeSilva, such as no longer storing fish product in trucks or running refrigeration units overnight, but noted that the property still had potential for odors and that a recent complaint about noise and stench had been received. DeSilva claimed he no longer operates a fish business from the site and only stores empty lobster crates and repairs equipment. Councilwoman Pereira expressed dissatisfaction with the lack of significant cleanup and the absence of resident input, leading to a decision to table the item until residents could weigh in. Finally, the committee addressed stormwater catch basin maintenance. Paul Frerich and Jason Weatherby from Veolia Water provided data, stating Fall River has 6,197 catch basins, with 1,115 cleaned this year against a contract minimum of 1,600-1,700 annually. Weatherby explained the design of catch basins to trap debris and floatables, which can be misinterpreted as a lack of cleaning. The committee requested copies of cleaning reports and a list of cleaned catch basins, tabling the item for further review.
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0:54here here pursuant to the open meeting law any persons may make an audio or video recording of this public meeting or may transmit the meeting through any medium attendees therefore be advised that such recordings and Transmissions are being made with a perceived or unperceived by those pursuant present or deemed acknowledged and permissible and citizens there is citizen of this one citizens input Justin Sylvia yes
1:24you want to come down hey I think you were the guy that called me I responded to your email yeah I was looking for it a little while ago it's not funny well at least you know you went to spam the first time afternoon good afternoon just state your name and address yes Justin Sylvia 417 Albany Street before I before I get into the details of my issue I just want to ask everyone to consider
1:53how much to order you'd be willing to store or let pass through your basement at any time or during a rainstorm especially because last Friday storm I estimated I handled about 2 000 or more gallons of water in both containers and through through some pumps this summer has been bad as far as rainfall as you all know and I've lived at this property for nine years and it's never been it's never
2:28been this way the system in the house would hold water if it did back up but we'd never have it flow through the basement as as we have to share um so um I've asked or contacted the water department Sewer Department after each incident asking for help action advice it wasn't until I expanded the distribution to the health department and the city council which which I found out about this meeting and it seems it
3:03seems timely that I bring this up so what I'm asking for is information a plan both immediate short-term long-term something something that I know that is being done to mitigate relieve this because I've invested in all kinds of equipment and sandbags and other mediation within my house and had private companies out to inspect the lines clear clear any blockages but it seems like there's no end and anything
3:39I've done to this point hasn't hasn't made movement so to my earlier question I wouldn't expect any anyone to hold sewer water in their basement if anything the system should handle whatever backups happen it's it's not only a property concern for damage also Health concern as we know what what could be contained in the in the sewer water you know I my expectations are the city could should provide clean
4:16water good roads and a sewer system that doesn't impact residents and and their property you said that you have had private companies come out and look and did they fish that way to see that there is no blockages there's no cracks there's nothing like that yes okay and this has only happened with the Marine water that we've had and you're sure that it's sewer water not rain water
4:45not that there's a leak yeah I have some pictures of the containers the water is there's three pictures here so yeah can I make a motion to someone the rules and go after three to four past three months go back second yeah a second all in favor
5:18I'll be waving the rules to have them come down
5:26yes well we can do it but it's not on the agenda no but we still can talk about it yeah we weren't expecting it okay yeah so we make a motion to waive the rules so so make a motion I mean Mr uh drilling can come down second all in favor aye
5:58yes after after Friday's rainstorm mine went to spam look at me that could be mine but then I found it when I go back and you called me with your number correct good evening good evening Mr Ferlin I know that there's someone here from the sewer department as well I don't know if we want to waive the rules and have
6:29okay I yelled Council today I was just looking up your house on the map I apologize I don't have your email but um we'll check thank you um you're at the end of Albany yes I see that do you know did this happen to any of the neighbors homes uh I don't know personally that it has but in in the past I've seen uh sewer companies trucks in the neighborhood at different
6:55properties so I can't speak to their issue but the evidence is there's companies coming into the neighborhood okay and before you reached out to the council you said you've reached out to the I started with the water department uh then sewer and then I brought in the distribution
7:16why would this happen to uh this this has never happened before two to three years yeah so it's happened multiple times in the last two to three years in not not the severity but it has happened yeah so I'm sure if you look at any of those uh backups there most likely in relation to high intensity rainstorms as anybody who lives in Fall River or the surrounding areas knows this year we've
7:45been inundated with very short high intensity rainstorms uh this section of Albany Street is a sewer system that's dots up in the Valentine Street area runs all the way south on the old Crescent Street parallel to Race Street then heads West on Albany Street down to Robeson across as Robeson goes down to Highland Avenue this whole entire area is a combined system so it takes both uh sewer and storm water
8:23one of the issues this whole entire area the catch basins for all this area are tied into the sewer system as well as a lot of house homes have their downspouts tied into this tied into this combined sewer system this whole entire area in the high intensity rainstorms as with many other areas throughout the city the combined sewer becomes overwhelmed in uh you know there's too much water within
8:52the pipe to either accept any more or it takes reliefs at the low points areas like this we always recommend that the homeowner provide uh install a backflow on their Sewer Service a back water valve so that's a check valve that goes on that sewer service stops any of the water from the sewer line to coming in and backing up within the house the other thing that we always also always
9:16recommend is that any of the downspouts on the house be disconnected a lot of these houses in this area built in the 30s 40s and 50s they have the downspouts that come down the side of the house go into a pipe and tie into the sewer system we always recommend that they disconnect those from the internal sewer system and put those either onto the lawn or into a wet well on the property a French drain
9:45um this is a very low area so Albany Street always does flood always has had a history of flooding I noticed they're digging digging breading over by Valentine I tried to get down there the other day and I couldn't is that the water that's a water main replacement project so that's part of the arpa contract one water main replacement uh they're replacing the water main and then also repaving the
10:15roadway so nothing to do with the nothing to do with the sewer um the back valve do you have that installed how much does that cost uh they would have to get a private drain weight or a plumber sometimes they can be installed internal to the house sometimes they need to be installed external to the house so outside so it depends whether if it needs to go outside if they need to excavate it
10:42could be more costly if it's internal they may be able to do it a bit cheaper so I guess my question statement would be if that's something that can help but it's an issue because our system can't handle it is that something the city could pay for that's not something that we would do we wouldn't do that on a private homeowner's sewer service again um you know there's again making sure the downspouts are out
11:09of the system the back water valve to prevent that is what we always recommend to our customers I yields thank you Council forever well one of the questions I have Mr frillan is that this gentleman is saying that this was worse at this time but that he's had this for two or three years that there's been a problem so two and three years ago we didn't have the rain that we had this season we
11:35didn't have as much rain and I think if it's the city's responsibility um you know to provide water and provide sewer for homes if there's an issue that something needs to be fixed and if there's a problem there then maybe some of those homes need to be looked at and if something needs to be done then I think it's the city's responsibility for doing it not a homeowner I mean yeah
11:56sometimes people get a sub pump inside if there's water coming in from a crack or heavy rains or whatever but you know I don't know you never said what the cost would be I don't know what the cost would be but we certainly have oppa money to reduce some of the lead pipes and that type of thing and I know there was an issue with a lead pipe that broke
12:17and somebody had a private come and fix that and now they have to pay for it when the council voted to give money to repair all of those and there's a couple of people that have had to repair them before the city got there we were going to pay for it anyway so why we're not paying their bill it's it flaws me but you know if this gentleman's saying this was two to three years before
12:39that it's happened for two or three years that he's had it not to this extent but he's seen people there then that's an area that needs to be fixed I mean I appreciate what you're saying that we've had a lot of rain and people have had water in their basements that they've never had before because of the high impact of rain and everything gets backed up then that CSO that we spent
13:00millions and millions and millions of dollars on obviously our pipes aren't big enough to make sure that everything goes into those holes under the ground to catch before we can treat it so it's kind of disheartening to think we spent all that money and I know we haven't had rainstorms like this but if he's been having this problem for two or three years we haven't had rainstorms I'd like to
13:23know what is the solution to people like this not this is why there's a problem we know why there's a problem what is the solution yeah so again you know part of the problem is we don't know what alterations were made internal to the house from when the house was originally built why they didn't install a check valve when it was originally built they used to be house traps that would also
13:46help prevent that most of those have been removed as well as vent pipes in the front yards of homes prior to that house trap that would help prevent any type of backup so if those have been removed or blocked by the homeowner on their service if they've remodeled their house and added a toilet or a tub or something into the basement that could change the whole entire hydrology of
14:14where the release of water is for that system so if they're opening up something you know if they're making an opening within the sewer system in their basement and now it's not being able to be contained within the sewer system in the house I don't feel that that's the city's responsibility to make the repairs or put a Backwater valve or any other type of remediation like that is
14:37there a way that the water department would send someone out to this gentleman's home to see what could be done to rectify this have you sort of done any improvements put another bathroom in the basement is there anything different from when you bought the home and you've lived there how long nine almost ten years almost 10 years and only the last two or three there's been an issue
15:04is there a way Mr frilling that we send somebody out to take a look and give suggestions of what can be done yeah no definitely we can send somebody out um you know again this I know this area I'm very familiar with this area uh with the multiple residents out there again we typically go out we do a uh we do a check whenever we do receive a call uh either in the sewer department we send
15:26our supervisors out typically uh and I can tell you a lot of the ones within this area recommendations have been to remove the downspout and install the Backwater valve that that's really weird to remove the downspouts and let it go on to the lawn because before you were forced to put it in when I built my home I had to have it going in and all of a sudden now
15:49um they want them out so it's different but didn't you say you called the Sewer Department was anybody were you offered to have someone go has anybody gone to inspect no will you offered that service did you just talk to whoever answered the phone and explained to them I explained to them they said they would they would speak to the engineer didn't give me a name um and said they would check if the
16:13catch basins had been cleaned but I never received a follow-up from that so the next storm happened and again we had the backup and that's when I emailed rather than called right and didn't get a response to the email and then the next storm happened and that's when I brought in the distribution well now Mr Ferlin is here he's really been overwhelmed with water in basements and sewer systems and water projects so I
16:40know he's like at 120 percent of complaints all over and trying to rectify them but he is here and I'm sure that you know you can figure that out and then meet with him and if he's saying a supervisor would go to try to get some answers for you I don't know if that'll yeah without a doubt no definitely will contact him yeah yeah we can schedule something thank you so much
17:13item number three to have a motion to lift oh no minutes can I have uh a motion to approve um motion to approve the minutes of the January 24th 2003 second me all in favor aye thank you item number three is a resolution discussion on public hearing concerns A 222 Peckham Street do I have a motion to live from the table second thank you all in favor aye could I have is anyone here for Mr
17:45Hathaway come down and yeah Mr Hathaway's here
17:58hi there there you go good good evening good afternoon um could we just state your name for the record 22 Cherry Lane Sheridan Rhode Island thank you Glenn Hathaway Building Commissioner with the city of Fort River so last time we were here we were discussing some complaints that were made by the community um over at the property of 222 Peckham Street and we want to see how that's been going okay um
18:42can we just Council this resolution was filed by Council pelletia and he's unable to be at the meeting tonight but I did have a conversation with him and he said that nothing has changed that the same issues are going on and people are getting frustrated with it so in my conversations with and we visited the site right after the initial meeting um he was supposed to and agreed to
19:13remove the tanks that held the lobsters or the whatever they are the plastic containers they were holding rain water um possibly in a sunlight uh extreme heat would uh omit some Vapors from fish orders he has several trucks on the site that are still there um they're clean they don't have fish product in them but in in a hot sunny day humidity they would emit the odors possibly okay so we we went over a lot
19:55of things that day at his site and he was willing to comply with a lot of it he hasn't done a whole lot okay however there's I I didn't see any side of rodents I I haven't seen he has rodent protection that was a an issue that was brought up there is rodent protection there I toured the building there was nothing in the building that would emit odors he yes he does have some fish
20:25ropes and stuff like that and in the building Motors and stuff that he fixes Lobster pots and as such for his boats okay outside is the concern um the the trucks are still there they're not they're not holding product because I've been watching he doesn't know it and I'll tell him his his men know it but they see me every day every day they're there on the way home from this job or if I'm out going
20:55to the South End I go by Beckham Street um it's been a little quiet over there his men know what I look like they know my car and they know when to watch me last week they would have taken uh fish barrels out of the out of an old truck over there that he uses for storage um he knows what I'm talking about because I turned around and I went back
21:18and I'm sure they reported to him that he's being watched so the there is a possibility that there could be Otis being omitted on certain days he has not been unloading trucks or transferring product over that um to my knowledge anytime since the last time we met over there so he has done some things I'll give him credit for that I did get a complaint from uh third party that recently a couple of
21:47three weeks ago I guess he did transfer something or there was a foul odor during the night or early morning hours and he had one of the compressors running on his truck which is a a refrigeration unit running on the truck the efficient Refrigeration units are in annoyance to the neighbors he had him on Globe Street that's why I used to park the trucks on Globe Street he doesn't
22:12Park the trucks on Globe Street anymore because the commercial vehicles parked on a public Street and epoxy movie to avoid the 500 300 ticket and he hasn't been running the compressors but three weeks ago one of the neighbors complained that there was a um some noise and some stench and some rodents I immediately went by after I found out about it it went to the Board of Health guys I
22:40believe and they they notified me and I went down there right away and I couldn't find anything doesn't mean that it's not happening but like I tell everybody if it's happening I don't care what time of day it is call me call the police department they can call me at two in the morning they can call me at one if Victor wants to start at three I'll start at three too doesn't matter to me um
23:02so I I will admit it's been a little bit quiet down there for complaints but there was one recently as far as you asking the question what was done nothing okay there is still containers there there is still the potential there is trucks there there is still potential to have the odor uh but as far as transferring of product that has stopped to summarize it so far doesn't mean it can't stop tonight
23:28thank you Council Illinois at the last one I'm just surprised they're not here they weren't okay so that's not helpful um Mr Hathaway you said that one night there were the because one of the issues was the running of the refrigerator trucks overnight that hasn't happened except for one night that hasn't happened at all recently uh I want to say since to my knowledge it hasn't happened since we met on site because
24:03that was a pet peeve of the neighbors listening to these compressors running all night long it's like so what was the noise that the neighbor complained about a few weeks ago a compressor running and they were transferring product uh real early in the morning and I didn't get the call I don't know why I didn't get the call but I didn't and there's not supposed to be any transferring of products absolutely not so um
24:29Mr DeSilva to you what product yeah um Reef units get turned on when we leave to go when the boat when the boats come in in Newport where where I offload review it gets turned on and from there they just go up to offload that's the only time to refuel to get it gets it on and usually it's after seven o'clock six seven o'clock I always tell them drive out of the driveway once you get going
24:53turn it on it's real early in the morning sometimes we offered at five six a.m yes so what's happening now at this site um we're just bring in empty trucks I stormed there I rebuild Lobster pots we rebuilt pumps we we have um we have another company New England Group which owns the properties so we do we do maintenance on cabinets and doors and windows so on so forth and bring it
25:22nothing to do with fish nothing to do with fish the tanks he's talking about Glenn is speaking about is um they're underneath the trailer I flipped them upside down all the tanks that were outside all the ice ice bins they call them Robert I Spence they were all right side up at one time containing water I flipped those upside down they're all neat um I've done everything there to keep
25:53as clean as possible as quiet as possible I've um I talked to Elaine the other day in minimum housing I asked about that what had happened that there was a complaint they said it was rats everywhere I haven't found a rat I'm going to be the first one I own a lot of property in the city yes we do have an issue with rats in the city absolutely and
26:15I own 48 units in the city so I know it's what it what it's about so I try to treat the the rats if there was ever a problem there's boxes there you can you can justify to that I open them up my guy opens them up all the time I open them up the other day the rat poison was still all intact there's no Rats on the property if there was I
26:32would say yes there is so one of the complaints was there was rats that's what Elaine told me um the next complaint was there was an odor she went there there was no order there was no stench there was nothing um there was one reefer truck that came in with um let us saying with with barrels with bait battles they're in some out at the boat we bring him down we store them
26:53inside of a container a closed container um and that's all I I've done anything I can to minimize a problem with with the neighbors but some people just are never happy they're going to be calling and the lane goes down and she says if there was anything for me to justify I would have wrote it down Victor and there's nothing to write down you can ask inspector about it but
27:22prior to this prior to our last meeting had the neighbors called you when there was issues there um on occasion yes have they called you since then besides this one a call no so he knows he's being monitored he doesn't know how many hours a day he's being monitored but he knows he's being monitored he's been pretty good about it he's trying or he's doing I think what he needs to do short of taking his fish
27:56business things associated with this fish business and putting it elsewhere that that hasn't taken place okay but he has complied with everything I've asked him to comply with or required him did they make a mistake a couple of weeks ago when that complaint come in during the early morning hours I don't know I wasn't there I wasn't called and hey I tell everybody it's very important
28:24so I can speak what I see and what I experienced at that time and I'd love to catch them at three o'clock in the morning because that didn't settle the score okay but I can't if I'm not called so my I'm sorry there's no product there like I said the I only have one pitching vessel right now fishing up in Newport it's lobsters and crafts we go up we get the
28:52lobster so we get the crabs the crabs get sold the lobsters get sold that's done my Seafood business is done I lost I sold Lisbon seafood on low Corners that's gone I don't do any more I don't do fish I don't do any of that I don't have ice machines I don't have any of that I don't I've gotten out of that business so the only thing that's like I said the
29:10only thing that's there in that facility is empty Lobster crates Lobster that carry a product and um and then the rebuilding of pots and ropes and so on that's that's all I have and then like I said I have another another room that we do all our repairs for um properties that's that's it so my only concern would be that the neighbors didn't know um that this meeting was happening so we
29:36don't we don't have both sides I'm not sure we I know we were there was issue about a zoning variants and all of that is that still needed or is that not needed so if it was initially stated by me that if Victor wanted to run or store his vehicles with fish any type of fish product anything that uh was related to The Fish business then he would need to go to the zoning board
30:04of appeals and get an opinion on the zoning board of appeals it's a business it's it's designated a business the building the lot but it's not designated for fish or that product um this is why we've been pretty adamant about the storage of the plastic containers that he had under the under the things the trailers they would fill up with water and then they'd emit an odor on a hot day so he's complied with that um
30:35it's he's got some Lobster pots there that him and I have talked about uh on the initial visit he was supposed to move he didn't move him but there's no water I don't smell anything right now um and I haven't doesn't mean I'm the Neighbors on it um so I think he's complied with one exception that I'm hearing and that big exception would be rats and I can speak
31:00for what I'm doing and so yeah we have problems in the neighborhood with rats they're not coming from his property that we've seen so far I know where they're coming from we're dealing with them uh there's been a walk around the neighborhood and we've notified several people uh in the neighborhood and and the biggest culprit is uh closed his house last week so he's dealing with harassment as soon as the Exterminating
31:28can get over there but and it's not far from the property and it doesn't mean the rats can't migrate and all that stuff but um they're not on his I'm not saying that they don't cross at four o'clock in the morning there's nothing to stop them but they're not there's nothing there for them to feed on there's no there's no crabs being there's no food transfer or a seafood transfer on the trucks anymore yes he's
31:52parking the vehicles there that's okay don't have the Gen the the refrigeration units run into annoy the neighbors don't have the trucks omitting uh an odor to annoy the neighbors if he keeps doing that then we we have to go back to the zoning board period okay so I just want to say Mr de Silva I'm you made promises last time that you were going to clean up that property and
32:22frankly it doesn't seem like it's been cleaned up I'm gonna go with councilor pelletia who says not much has been done so unfortunately um the the neighbors have not been called so we want their side of the story but you said you you know here we're going to clean up the truck she was going to clean up the ropes there wasn't going to be smells anymore there was a complaint about a smell the
32:45property pretty much looks the same as it was when you were here last time you didn't know why there was a problem you didn't know there were rodents you know raccoons on the roof but then there were pictures of it now you know there's no rats so you know I I frankly I'm not too happy because you know it's the tenant that are right there and the tenements here in fall river that are dealing with
33:01your property and your own Tiverton and you're not dealing with the smells but you know the people down here are dealing with the smells and the sights and they have to deal with it and you're saying again what we heard the last time I don't know nothing there's nothing there I've done everything I could and it doesn't sound to me that you have but to be in all fairness I think we I would
33:17entertain a motion to table this until we could um get the residents down there maybe they're going to come back and say that no everything is fine although Mr Pelletier whose uh Council of pelity who's out of that are saying no not much is done so I would really like um the residents of that area to weigh in because that's what's important the people that live there to come here and
33:35say that they're not happy because frankly it sounds like minimal has been done down there so with that I yield and I'll entertain a motion if you want to go first all I know is that I did contact Council pelicia before the meeting to see if there was issues he said yes there are still issues people call him because he's a counselor and lives on Beckham Street maybe a lot of people will go to him versus
34:01um calling the building department and talking to Mr Hathaway and I just think because he wasn't able to be here as well as some of the neighbors and the neighbors may say no it's much better now we're fine there may be one or two neighbors that are just not wanting that there but if it's not causing a problem you can be there so I would entertain I would make a motion to table
34:27all in favor all right thank you thank you thank you thank you item number four is the committee on health or environmental Affairs to convene with the administrator of the community utilities and a representative from Viola water to discuss the stormwater catch base and maintenance protocol to avoid mosquito-borne illnesses and microbial growth
35:06something good evening busy man today seems like I'm sure name can I just get your name the administrator of the community utilities city of Fall River Jason Weatherby project manager feel the water for the wastewater treatment plant thank you Council prayer yes um the only reason I found this resolution I know we have storm water and I know there's dream problems and everything else my
35:48question is how many catch basins do we have in the city of Fall River who can tell me that 6197. that's 6196.
35:59and how many of those were cleaned this year up to now it was about 11 89.
36:06from January till now uh 11 50. yep 11 15 from January till now for this account here so 1115 have been cleaned do you have a list of the all the ones that were cleaned from 2019 well no I want to know how many were cleaned this just this year this year how many were cleaned you said a thousand one hundred and fifteen that was just this year well from 2019.
36:38is that a total of everything I have a total of uh from 2019 over 7 000.
36:45well how could it be seven thousand well we only have 6196 what contracted to do 16 to 1700 per year to clean 16 or 17 percent no 17 1700 per year yes yes so that's the contract between the city and Veolia they need to do a minimum of at least 1700 catch bases yeah yeah cleaning um you know so they're on a rotating basis of again there's over six thousand catch basins throughout the whole entire city
37:17um catch basins are governed underneath a couple of different uh permits in government regulations that we have uh one being the cmom program which is the capacity maintenance in operations program so that's a permit that's uh regulation that's issued and governed by the EPA we do yearly reports in relation to that to both EPA and DEP on our cleanings so that's done those reports are done yelling
37:51okay when do you do those reports Mr frolin is there a specific month uh yeah the sebum uh report which has also kind of been taken over a little bit by the ms4 permit which is the other regulatory guidance over cleaning of catch basins and streets and stuff like that that is typically a fiscal year report so I have the report that was done for this past fiscal year from January
38:20uh excuse me July 1. 21 to June 30th of 22.
38:29so that's under the MS fall permit which is the Municipal storm sewers permit so there'll be one done now for 23 from 22 to 23. yeah that's due by the end of September by the end of September could could we have copies of that report yep could we have copies of all of the catch basins do you have catch Basin numbers or streets on yours they're all identified by an ID
38:56okay so if the catch Basin is identified by an ID some sort of number ID yes how would I as a counselor know what number this corresponded to what street oh the location would be right there with the street and then we identify identify it with an ID so if I ask you for a list of the ones that were done this year would I just get an ID number or would I
39:22get the location the street I would get the street yes okay so can we have that what time do you clean catch bases do you do them during the day do you do them at night because honestly Jason I can't remember your last name so I don't mean to be rude your first name um I haven't seen one this year and when I asked at the council meeting anybody see one woman raise your hand
39:49that she saw one I haven't seen any and so I'm if you're doing them are you doing them at night there are some that's done at night yes so you're doing it more so in the winter time would be during the day more yes in the winter time it's during the day and in the summertime yeah not all the time but yeah yeah so Mr Ferlin calls you and said they were having a drainage problem in
40:16this area things are backing up is that one that you would highlight and go out and do or is there a system that you do so many in each quadrant of the city we have a system for each quadrant but then also we have um we call it like a hot list that's in a separate database of problem ones that's been identified so therefore then we address those it can be quarterly
40:43annually or if someone were to call and say okay or Paul would call and say look this one's a problem would send somebody okay that's all that's all I want I'd like the list of what we're sending the reports that we're doing and a list of the ones that you have done that's all that's all that I was looking for to see because people are thinking that you know things are blocked up they see it
41:07not running not when we have heavy rainstroms but even when we have lighter rainstorms that it's not then I hear people are throwing things down catch basins that clearly they shouldn't be that's not a trash bucket to be throwing things and sometimes people do that and when we have heavy rains like we've had you know whatever comes down is going to come down and pour into that um that that's all I wanted uh and then
41:33I would like to table I'd like to take a look at that all that information please did you want to respond to that uh yeah yeah you know um no so just on that if I could take a quick second just to explain how a catch basic work I know we're long on time so I can be long-winded sometimes they'll try to keep it really short this is a local problem education
41:55because a lot of times people don't understand catch bases um you heard earlier tonight during citizen input we're talking to one resident where the sewer system fills up doesn't allow any more water to get into the catch basins or other things so that's one issue that residents would see oh the catch patients without taking anything I'll skip the Prelude that I was going to do just so we can get through it in a
42:17matter of time whoops but overall this is what a basic catch baser looks like so this you have your street level up here so this is the top this is the grade for the Basin typically you'll have your curve on the side of the road back here all the catch basins typically that we have in the city of What's called the Deep sub catch Basin which means that the sump goes down uh four to
42:40six feet below the ground so there's a holding area down here the connection that ties to either the sewer or the step separated storm water system comes out higher within this catch Basin so it's not at the bottom so the water doesn't come in and go out the bottom what this does it allows the water to come in here allows any of the debris so dirt Rock sand or anything
43:02like that settle to the bottom of the catch Basin the other thing that it does it allows this water to come out but the water is going to come and always stay at this level so when you look into a catch Basin people might say there's water in there this thing isn't working properly that doesn't mean that it's not working properly that means that it is working properly if the water level is down
43:27so there's this hood that comes here so this is an enclosure it could be a hood like this or it could be an elbow on the end of the pipe that's that's going down which makes it so the water level is here but it allows anything that floats on the water so if you get bottles you get Dunkin Donuts cup anything like that to be able to float on top of the water
43:47so that's another misconception a lot of people have they look in they see the Dunkin Donuts cups and the soda bottles they say this thing's never been cleaned but that's actually designed so that that debris does not end up in our sewer system Block in our sewer system so when people see that types of things they think that we're not cleaning the catch basins we're not doing our jobs properly
44:08but it means that we're actually trapping all that debris preventing it from going into our system and causing issues within our system so last year last fiscal year we had over 47 470 tons of material that we cleaned out of catch basins so either this to bring the bottom the floatables on top that was removed from catch basins and disposed of so just kind of something a lot of people
44:37have misconceptions about uh you know looking at a catch base and saying it's not clean but a lot of times it is um I have a question on so you're contracted to clean 16 to 1700 per year so each kid each catch they send is cleaned roughly once every six years unless there's a another call from a resident that or it's been identified in the past as a hot spot where there
45:07might be excessive debris in that area and they clog up a lot okay yes what would that look like Mr Berlin if it was clogged up what would that so it 'll catch facing what's it was so not during the rain storm or anything like that so during you know during regular times you would see the water up here if it was clogged and it wasn't able to make its way down and out
45:34if you see the water floating and it's a photo too below the grape that's what it's supposed to function properly that's okay I'm going to yield but before I do can you check the catch Basin at omen 96 Aberdeen Street six efforts yeah you should have an email on that okay thank you thank you um so just one other thing along with catch Basin clean and again the trash you know um
46:04we go around and a big thing in relation uh you know required for us to report within our c-mount permits it's required to us to report to other agencies involved is street sweeping um you know that's a big thing it stops the sand and rocks from running down the street into the catch basins it stopped gets any of the trash debris bottles cups and stuff like that off the uh off
46:29the street doesn't allow it to go into that catch Basin as well so that's a big thing again we work with DCM I know that was one of the reasons that the council did support additional Street Suite and equipment to uh for the Opera funds to be able to be pulled by the cities thank you council do you have a motion that you wanted to I have a motion to table where I want to review that
46:53material and motion to table second all in favor thank you Mr pro thank you thank you uh Weatherby thank you it's a tough one motion too second all in favor