8.25.2025 board of health

Good afternoon to everyone in the land of Zoom and welcome to the board of health virtual meeting on Monday, August 25th, 2025 scheduled for 3:30. My name is Thomas Corey. Present with me via Zoom is Michael Coughlin. Dr. Steven Gagliotti Tess Curran, our agent for the board is not with us today. Uh Sandy Barabby will be taking the minutes and taking care of the roll calls. various guests and participants in today's

meeting.

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The first item of business is can we have a roll call?

Thomas Corey, yes.

Michael Coughlin, yes.

Dr. Steven Gagliardi, yes.

Next, we have the approval of the minutes of the meeting from Monday, July 28th, 2025. Are there any additions, deletions, or corrections to be made to the minutes of the meeting as printed?

Move to accept.

Yeah, we have a second. Sandy, can we have a roll call?

Thomas Corey, yes.

Michael Coughlin, yes.

Dr. Steven Gagliardi, yes.

Next item of business is the request for the variance of the keeping of chickens for David Pimento at 435 David Street, Fall River, 02720.

This is a matter that we're taking off the table from the June meeting.

who uh who's presenting for the for the department.

I am, sir.

Okay. If you would.

Okay. So, not much has changed since last time. Um I do want to make a point of clarification if it wasn't made earlier. On the plot plan, you would see not only the location of the coupe, but of a a run, but um there is no run, and the applicant has indicated that he's thought better of it is not going to do that. So uh so the coupe itself is about

11 ft from the property line and if you saw that plot plan the board members you see another shape there but that's not there. Um the yard is much as um can you repeat what you just said what's not there?

Yeah. Uh so the original plan submitted to the board were that in in addition to a coupe there would be a run for the chickens but the run was never built. It is not there now. So the board has drawings of this. So just to clarify when they see that shape on there that's that that is just a small rectangle represents the coupe. That other area is not has not been constructed.

Exactly. So, uh, beyond that, um, I went up there today and I could only count approximately, I've expressed before the difficulty in counting chickens because they move 20 chickens. All I saw was 20 chickens. So, maybe the applicant could clarify that for us. I don't know where the other chickens uh went.

uh but uh as as we you know ju it's just a review from last time you know he's met all the requirements on the ground all the requirements for application um all the plans are in place and other than that that's that's pretty much it. Oh one thing I must mention uh we got a letter um from an abut too late to submit um I don't know if you want me to read

it in or but we got a letter um from one of the abutters. Um, what's the what's the what's the address?

It's 492 Bulock Street.

Sure. Read it into the record, please.

Okay. Board of Health, I am writing this in regards to the variance that will be heard on August 25th, 2025 regarding 435 David Street. The property owner wants to keep chickens on the property. I don't think I don't think they should be allowed. The property in question is in a heavily populated residential area. I believe that having livestock in this area is not only unsanitary but possibly

could attract other predators to the area.

I believe that this would be a nuisance to the neighborhood and should not be allowed at this time. Respectfully Paul Barabby that we address.

Okay.

No, I have to call you back. We're listening to the uh to the Okay. Um let me call you back.

Mr. Pimento.

Mr. Pimento.

Mr. I know you're here.

I can see him. I just his screen.

Okay.

Hello.

Hello. Yes, we can we can hear you.

Although you're frozen on my screen.

There you are.

Hi.

Mr. Momento, can I ask you uh why I only saw 20 some 20 chickens there today?

Um maybe Oh, we got rid of some roosters.

We had to get rid of We figured out because the chicks would grow and uh we had some roosters that we had to get rid of. Um and maybe a couple were might have been roosting or not roosting, I'm sorry, laying eggs cuz now some of them are laying eggs.

All right. So, how many chickens do you have now?

We have 30.

Okay.

Okay. Thank you. Who has questions on on this application?

I do.

Okay. Donna Howell, if you'll state your name and address for the record.

Donna Hell, 510 David Street.

So, is there an ordinance ordinance as to a limitation of how many chickens someone can have on property?

No.

It is at the discretion of the applicant's application and the discretion of the board.

And knowing this neighborhood, the board of health is still saying this is fine.

The applicant has met all the requirements of the application.

You already built everything even before the approval was given.

Correct.

And that's fine to do that.

I was told that they would have it down.

it was their fault if they put it up before they were approved.

I'm not sure who gave you that information.

Yeah, it was your secretary months ago.

Can I um just give my perspective on that? Is that okay with the board?

Yes.

And I'd like to see Okay. So many many of our permit holders have chickens without knowing that there is a regulation. So we have quite a few uh permit holders who who not only the coupe, it had the chickens be before approved.

So, it's not it's just not unusual to at least have the coupe there uh before coming to the board.

Um he said he had chickens in New Bedford and if he's already previously had chickens in New Bedford, he knows that there needs to be a permit. Um I I'm not Excuse me.

Uh, so because people don't want to, you know, check in advance, the rest of the neighborhood has to deal with it. Um, June 19th, the chickens going, dogs are in the neighborhood of parking. July 6, rodent poop in my walkway, 241 Free Love Street. We've had feathers in the backyard, trespassing on 229. Um, Free Love to retrieve a chicken that went into the yard. Um, now I have rodent

poop in my house. I have mice dropping uh July 23rd, um August 1st, August 7th, this past Friday, it got into one of my other cabinets, not just the dog food bowl, and into my daughter's uh granola bars and oatmeal. Um I mean, I understand that they have the contract with the exterminator for a year, but okay, so they're not over there. They're coming to everybody else's house. Um I'm I

strongly ask the board to deny it or at least I limit it. I I can't I can't keep cleaning.

I just want to say that. So, I was speaking, but I'm not sure.

I'm so sorry. Behind.

I just want to make sure that they have on record that this is you speaking and not me.

Okay. Gotcha.

And what was your name?

Kim. Kimberly 41 free love.

We have we have a company that every year um to check our property inside and out.

And every year he leaves saying he's amazed by he's never seen any evidence of any rodents, mice or rats in this area.

Nine years a big concern.

Nothing. And within a month of having chickens, I've had five different instances.

Can Can I say one thing, please?

I have one year old. My twins, they are crawling on the floors. I don't want them to get the the h virus, one that gene died from.

Mr. Pel.

Yes. Um, we bought this property back in September of last year. And when we bought this property, it already had over two dozen mouse feeding stations.

So, this was a problem in this neighborhood well before we ever got here. I still have the old boxes here.

The the the contract that I have with Guardian and Pest Control now, it's all new boxes. And all the old boxes are still here to show that this was a problem well before we ever got here.

Not on my property.

Every year we get it inspected. You have three We don't have that problem here anymore at all.

You have three other owners that have never had long-term. How long you've been here, Sue?

You have brought a black eye to the neighborhood.

Ma'am, I I Are you Kim? I I only see the gentleman in in the dark sweater and the white hair. Is that who you're talking with from?

That is the female. That is Miss Suz Mrs. Canwell. Sue Campwell.

I I apologize, ma'am. I can only see it's a small thing on a Zoom phone.

Okay. Um, as far as far as the rodents, okay, the board requires the rodent contract. As I said at our last meeting, we've been granting permits for for animals for years, and we've never had anyone come back uh in a butter to a a grantee that said they were having a problem. Now, I will share this with you. Um a mice can show up any time. Last Sunday, I was out

watering my flowers in the front of my house. It was about 6:00 in the evening and something moved in my flower bed, okay? And I hit it with the hose and it was a mouse probably about two inches long. And I'm thinking to myself, the nearest chickens to me are down on Stafford Road across from St. Jean's Church.

So, it's not anything to do. It may be a contributing factor.

It is.

But in in Fall River, there are rodents all over town. I'm also entertaining some bunnies and I'm entertaining some chipmunks these last few weeks.

I I cannot believe that the is showing him 30 chickens in this beautiful neighborhood of all river where there aren't that many beautiful neighborhoods anymore. I cannot believe you Thomas are speaking this way allowing him 30 chickens in this awesome neighborhood and you someone told her to go get an exterminator.

Yeah. his other half there. You know, you may have your Incredible incredible problem.

Okay, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Listen again. The applicant has met all the requirements.

What are the requirements?

I guess I can do that.

No roosters or contract.

Why did he have roosters? He had roosters. He had to get rid of them. He said he he just admitted that they were when they were born. I don't know much how to tell about the the gender of a rooster or or or of a chicken.

It's very difficult.

So, as the uh as the rooster as the chicken grew, he realized it was a rooster. The rooster's gone. That shows good faith on his part.

This is also very very common. There are stores that give guarantees on this, but that doesn't mean you don't get males.

So, it's almost impossible. There are some people who say they can tell, but it's really difficult to tell if a chick is a boy or a girl. And that this happens all over the city. People will add to their I for months before we found out.

Yeah.

Last meeting I asked how often is this property are properties like this monitored by the city? And I was told maybe once a year. So once you guys approve this, you're gone.

All right. That's not to us to have to fight whatever.

That's not That's not true.

That's what was told to us at the last time.

I remember what happened there that it was actually Mr. Curry who said at least once a year.

Um because on renewal of an application, we always inspect, but we we do unannounced sort of randomized checks from time to time. There's no special schedule. Uh, we do want to go there when the owner of the property doesn't know we're going to be there because we're looking for things like a generally messy yard, for instance, nothing to do directly with the chickens. Um, so I can't give you a

schedule, but we do stop by the the permit holders houses from time to time.

Is this for commercial use or personal use? I mean, 30 chickens, he originally wanted 50. It can't be for a family.

It's I can I can I can uh I can answer that. the uh 30 chickens I want for laying eggs, 20 chickens, the extra 20 for the 50 it was to for meat to raise meat birds because meat birds you harvest every six weeks. So they're not you only feed them for six weeks you harvest them in the Cornish tens so it's to harvest meat so I can have meat over

the winter. I eat a high protein diet and it cost a lot of money to do that in the store so I can do it at home. The 30 eggs I have a I still have a big family.

I have both of my in-laws that are alive. My parents are alive. I have two adult children that have girlfriends. I have a big family. I'm the oldest of 40 grandchildren in my family. So, I have plenty of people to give these eggs to.

Eggs are ridiculously Can I speak?

Oh, sure. Sorry.

Thank you. I have a ridiculously large family and eggs are super expensive in the store as we know. So I when I looked into the like the limit of eggs and of chickens I mean of how many you could have the the ordinances in Fall River stated that it depended on coupe size and land size. It so happens that our backside backyard is of large size and can house many many more chickens than

50. And I don't want anything even more nowhere nowhere near more than that. But now you understand the reason why I wanted 20 more and that's to raise meat birds. These birds that are laying eggs will lay eggs for the next 5 to seven years. I don't I don't want to take them as meat birds while they're laying eggs.

That's not how this is done. Sorry. It's just not.

So, wait regulations did he did you did he pass? You said he met all regulations. What were they?

The the three requirements that the board has. He he filed the permit, no roosters, a wrote contract, and to set the number of of animals.

Why did I you know doesn't have to justify why he wants these. Um it's his choice if he wants to have chickens and as long you know there are the rules are set in place by the city. We're here just to make sure that people follow the rules. If you want to change the rules, there's another um mechanism for that.

This isn't the mechanism for that. So if the rules are in place and you've met all the requirements, I don't see the point of this discussion anymore. 30 chickens.

That That's the rules. That's the rules.

Then then uh write a congressman or you call your city councelor.

This isn't the place for that though.

We're here. We're here to make sure that the rules are followed. And if the rules are followed, um I mean we don't have discretion in this. We can't according to Mr.

the board has the um the privilege um or the responsibility to approve or not approve the number of chickens.

You're hearing everything from the neighborhood. Everybody's had it. And I mean, where is the waste going? He's keeping I'm from the neighborhood. Hold on. I'm I'm from the neighborhood.

Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Everybody, Mr. Marcela had his hand up first if you would sir.

I was just answering back the neighbor.

Hello.

Mr. Marcel, you seem to be muted. We can't hear you.

Oh, can you I'm sorry. I thought you just didn't want me to talk. I'm okay. I was muted and I apologize for that.

Okay.

I just want to make a brief comment.

this approval of so many chickens when there's so much push back and the neighborhood's pristine. That's our point. And I think that there's got to be some extra consideration. We could call it a variance to the variance.

You're making a variance to to allow chickens which typically you would see driving along in Westport or nearby rural communities.

This is an urban setting. want to go down the road and look in Fall River. I mean, the in New Bedford where they have severe rodent problems now, it's just so troubling. And this neighborhood needs some extra consideration. Why not start with a probationary like six chickens and see how it goes and then you can add on if everything's cool and everything's smooth. That's all I got.

And one other thing, I I know we received five letters of opposition.

Yes, five letters. Yes, five letters total in opposition, but 48 of Butters were notified.

So that's only less than 10% of the neighborhood responded. Now, is the others just indifferent or don't care or in favor thereof?

Quite a few elderly elderly. Two two of my neighbors are both elderly. They're both in their 70s, 80s. So I don't know about the rest of them, but a lot of them in here are elderly.

I don't know. I have the list here.

There were 48 of Butters notified. I don't we only received five letters. I received no calls. I don't believe any any of the other members received any calls. Uh Tess Curran from the board did not say that she had received any calls from a Butters.

Um excuse me. I have been on the phone multiple times with Mrs. Well, we have we have a letter from you, ma'am. So, that that that counts as part of it.

There's also pictures of what has been going and dropped off in my house. And I thought that the board should be able to see the pictures um that go along with the letters.

I would like to know about the waste management. What is going on with the waste management?

I would like to to speak. I just came in the meeting. Uh so, when you get a chance Okay, Mr. Mr. Pimento, can you discuss the the waste management?

The waste management, the way that I do the poop, as you can see behind me, is a layering process. So that there's hay that they turn and it once it gets to be 6 to 9 in uh thick, it gets re it gets changed. When it when it's time to get ch get changed, it's going to be put into my garden as the whole compost like I I have an excavator. I will dig out

the garden area. It will all be put under there and then new fresh loom will be put on top of it so it can feed my fruits and vegetables next summer.

That's it. Usually it's it's it's done every um the reason why you can't smell anything. Um uh members of the board of health have been by the house on multiple occasions and the and have actually um con commended me on this on how you can't smell anything around the coupe until you're very very close to it. And that's because of this layering process. They they uh I put down a layer

of hay about an inch and a half to two inches thick and then they do their business for about two weeks and then I put a little bit more hay and then they turn that all around. And because they're turning that all around, it's already composting. It's starting the composting process and it's emitting any of the odor. And because it's open to the air, it just dissipates. So it doesn't You have to be literally

on like in the coupe to smell it. It's I I I am doing everything that I have to do to keep no smells. I have had no rodents in my yard personally, my house, anything like that.

If you have Hold on, hold on. Hold on. Ma'am King's phone.

Ma'am, the lady that said Samsung SM Okay, you'd ask to speak. Okay, if you Yeah, that's that's Diane Bunk. Uh, attorney Diane Bunk at 441 Bullet Street and my husband, uh, Joseph Sirwona. Same address. We both oppose this. And, um, I could go on for like an hour. Why? I know that you won't let me. But for the record, uh, the first thing I want to say is that Mr. Pimento is not the sole owner of

this property.

That's that's inconsequential to us.

This is an attack on me. I have to Mr. Mr.

Ownership of the property is not in question as far as the board is concerned.

Uh, I I have a question for the chairman. I'm a member of the board. Um, the question to the board is Okay. That's that's all I wanted to know about that because because Tom, I have a question.

Wait, hold on.

I don't ma'am who was speaking. You you're muted out on my screen.

Mr. Coughlin, you want it on?

Yeah, you're totally Mr.

Yeah, thank thank you Tom. Ple everyone else please not speak or or mute yourselves.

Uh I'm the newest member of the board a few years but I am the newest member of the board and I have a question for the members who are senior to me. Have have we ever uh adjusted the number down from an original request? Is there any precedent for that?

No, I don't remember ever having anyone make a request.

Can you hear me?

Who was that again? I have I think Diane Bunk, but you're freezing on and your sound is coming in and out, unfortunately. I'd love to hear what you have to say. You're an attorney. I'd love to hear what you have to say, but you're freezing and your sound is coming in and out.

Yeah. When I get changed, I'll speak to Okay. The gentleman on my in the red sweatshirt.

Uh I'm John Wine. I live at 342 Bulock Street. Um, I've I walked by and the yard actually is how I met the chickens is I saw how nice the yard is. It may be um a precedent for everywhere else, but this backyard you get it has a burm.

It's extremely large. Um, you know, rodents come both ways. If you don't uh take care of your house, that happens as well.

We've had them at 342 before.

Excuse me. What? Why aren't we following the rules? I don't get that. It's We're all calm. Can you let me have my turn?

Thanks. Um, Ben over there. Uh, the chickens are his pets. I mean, they'll sit on your lap that you're The chickens are out now. Do you hear them?

And it's like you guys are just Watch it. You guys are just uh trying to create an issue that's not there.

There's no feces anywhere. You should get an exterminate yourself.

Thank you.

There's no issue. Thank you. the young lady who it's the screen name is Kate.

Yes.

Who just disappeared into a flower.

Yep. Um I live at 342 as well. And I will say that well before the pimentoals moved in with their chickens.

I um I've had rodents in my garage.

They're attracted by bird seed. They're attracted by other other things.

Um, they're not any worse than baiting the possums.

Yeah, there's possums in the neighborhood.

Oh, I have a too.

All right. Um, gentlemen, I move I move that we approve the application.

Do we have a second?

Dr. Gav, you're muted.

Second.

Sandy, can we have a roll call?

Thomas Cory?

Yes.

Michael Coughlin?

Yes.

Dr. Steven Gagliardi?

Yes.

Mr. Pimento, the permit is granted.

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you.

You are you are you are welcome to keep an eye on his property. If we if you have com further complaints, you can report them to Mr. Fiori or to the department and we can always come back and revisit this. But I'm sure Mr.

Pimento will make a gallant effort to keep his property clean and neat and not sell any any eggs and uh he want I believe he wants to be a good neighbor.

Absolutely.

Mr. Pel, Mr. information just before we go. We will be in touch with you about the uh permit fee. Just let you know.

Thank you very much.

Okay. Okay.

Good luck.

Next item of business is for the request for the keeping of chickens from Monica Fernandez at 598 South Almond Street, Fall River. This again is being taken off the table from the June 30th meeting. Uh who's pres house? Are you presenting again?

No, it's me, Elen.

Elen. Okay, if you would. Hi.

So, I was there last week again on uh Thursday and everything is still clean.

No birds yet. The coupe is still there.

I honestly do not see any issue with this. She's got the pest control. The yard's neat. She's met everything that was on the application. I did step up off the back of the fence.

Want to speak.

Excuse me. I'm speaking. Thank you.

Wait a minute. Hold on.

So I stepped up to the fence to see is this thing, you know, gonna make a problem with anyone else. The pool is far away. The the house is nowhere near the coupe. The budding neighbor.

Hello.

We're on a new topic now. If you'll just hold on. The inspector is presenting.

You would. So, so I did look to see um because we had a issue last time with the uh a swimming pool that's on the other street and the coupe is far enough away from there.

It's the only thing that it could be close to is a garage that is sat way back on the Almond Street side, the very house next door going east. Um honestly, other than for personal reasons, I do not see why these people cannot have this um application.

They've met everything that's on the application and the yard is is is good standing. Thank you.

Okay. Who wants to speak on the Bernandi's application? Michael or or Mrs. Michael?

Hi. How are you today?

So far so good as you can see.

Okay. Um the condition of the yard is not in question. It's the location.

Yes. It's not close to my home as the lady said, but it is like five feet from my pool. I don't want to be smelling chicken feces while I'm swimming in my pool. I have a picture here. I don't know if you guys can see it. The part that is circled right here, that's my fence. And what right there is the chicken coop.

It's almost touching my property line.

Okay. And my thing is is my pool is right there.

Okay, that is my pool. You can see the floaty.

You can see my pool.

Okay, I don't want to be swimming inside.

It's not far enough away from the property line. They said they were going to move it and they have not.

I'm sorry, but I didn't spend $50,000 to have an ingground pool to have bug and smell chicken fesces while I'm trying to enjoy it.

It's right on the property and touch it.

Okay. So, if that lady, we can't hear ourselves.

Can we mute her name?

I don't know why.

So when I came home, I said I don't know how to mute people from here. I'm sorry.

It's been done. Okay. So getting back to the swimming pool. If her pool is within 5t of her neighbors anywhere, there's not that's a problem because, you know, it's not supposed to be that close. The the cement pad around itself is at least 4 feet and then you have a little hill going up with um uh mulch, red mulch, and you've got your plants there and all. It is not within five feet. So, I

personally did see that. The only thing that it is close is the garage at the house next door, not to you, ma'am. And again, if your pool is within 5 ft of her fence, there's an issue there. The coupe is going to be shortened, but she hasn't done it because nothing's been approved yet because of this back and forth. This is personal, and I don't believe it's anything environmental or

that she's doing something wrong. It's not close to your within 5T. It is not.

I'm not saying she's doing anything wrong. It you can clearly see that it's right up against the property line.

There is a law in the city, I believe.

correct me if I'm wrong about it being so close to a property line and it is I can reach over and touch the coupe from my because I was there Thursday and I had walked in that I will gladly meet you up there if you'd like but there's no need for that because it is not okay as you can see in the picture that's my fence that's the coupe I have a fence there

this is the red mulch you're talking about that I'm standing in ladies and gentlemen I'm just saying I don't want to smell it my pool in in in the in the continuing efforts to uh to be fair and transparent and everything about uh is it two Sundays ago or three Sundays ago that beautiful Sunday afternoon I uh I asked Mr. Fiori to provide me with a list of uh permit holders here in

the city. And I went around on a Sunday afternoon and I parked my car and I got out of the vehicle and I went to properties I had an address for that had chickens and I uh I understand that um smells are subjective. Okay. But and none of the five sites that I visited did I have an odor of feces or an odor of chickens.

There's the com there was some complaints about the noise. The sites that I visited, it was a Sunday afternoon. Everything was calm and quiet. It was warm. Maybe the chickens were sleeping. Okay. Um so I can't You're going to be you're going to be, you know, smelling all this. I I don't think that exists. Um, there's not a lot of noise.

The situation with with rodents, they have the contract in place. I myself just confessed that I have a rodent contract in place and traps set up all over my yard and I don't have any chickens for at least a thousand yards.

Okay. The the applicants have met the requirements. Once again, I will say to you, if there is a problem, you're free to contact uh either Mr. Fury's department or the board and we we will dispatch inspectors as quick as we can.

But isn't there a variance for it being so close to the property line?

Well, this what we're doing by by issuing the permit, we are allowing the variance.

That's not right because I don't want to smell this. I don't want to deal with the I grew up on a farm. My father raised chickens for Star Market. I know what the chickens smell like. I know the feces. I know the bugs it brings. I know the rodents it brings. The neighborhood already has a rodent problem. And even if he has a rodent contractor, that's still not going to be 100%. Nothing's 100%.

If you're admitting the the neighborhood already has a rodent problem.

I'm not saying he's going to bring more rodents. I'm just saying it already has.

This could just make it worse.

Okay.

My biggest your comments are noted. Believe me, it's too close to my property line.

But again, we have all these people. Um, again, in this particular case, there were 77 abutters that went out and there was only four letters that came back and and and so again, we have 90% of the neighborhood is either indifferent completely and doesn't care or is in favor of it.

To speak on the issue again, okay, I'm sorry. mental issue is closed.

Theal issue has not issue. Ma'am, we're dealing with the Mrs. Hold on. On the issue, the motion has passed. The permit's been raided.

The issue is I wish you to I wish you to reconsider because someone muted me and I was unable to say what I wanted to say. So after you're done with this lady, I would appreciate if you will because I came to see you, Mr. Fiori, and I told you that what my my opinion was on this and I want you to reconsider before before any thing.

It's not closed. It can't be appealed to the superior court, sir. It can be appealed to the superior court. So I want you to allow me to say anything that I want about what the concerns of the neighbors.

No, it's over.

All right. Can we have a motion ones?

This is just for six chickens, right? Is that my recollection?

We have six chickens. We have 30 in our background over here. I want application.

Second. you so that you can close out the meeting so I won't be able to Can we have a roll call?

I have Thomas Steven Gagliardi.

Thank you for your participation.

You have any further complaint?

Oh, trust me, I will the minute I smell it.

Okay, very good. too close to the property line. She said she was going to move the coupe and she didn't.

Okay.

There's no poop there because there's no chickens there yet.

The coupe, not poop. She said she was going to move the coupe closer to her home to get it away from my property line. And she didn't.

And perhaps she will again. Thank you for she will, perhaps she won't. And this city of Fall River goes to hell again.

Thank you very much for your time today.

Ladies, ladies and gentlemen, can reconsider anything and I'm requesting on behalf of my neighbors a reconsideration.

Next item of business is the request for the variance chicken for Anna Martins at 225 High Street in Fall River. Again, this is being taken off of the June 30th.

Address the issue at hand that I'm raising. Just the issue that I'm raising presenting for ma'am to reconsider.

Reconsider ma'am. Ma'am, you're you're an attorney. You're being very inconsiderate. Let the meeting continue and you can take it up the superior court in you have not allowed me to say what my opinion is as I think we heard your opinion break.

You got to grab a better Wi-Fi.

All I want to say is that there are many neighbors.

Okay, if we could for many neighbors that don't like somebody mute such as

Dandy, do you have control over the Zoom? No, it's gonna have to be Alex.

Alex, do you have control over the Zoom?

At the request of the board of health meeting in session, would you please remove Samsung SM 901U?

Thank you, Alex.

So, um I did go back to visit the property once again and the yard was clean like it was before. Everything's in place and we're just carrying this over because it got tabled from June.

Um, as far as the one opposition that was be a house behind her that I believe owns two both lots, a corner and the next one over. Um, they're actually going to be contacted because of the condition of their yard. But, uh, Anna's yard was fine.

Anna's yard was fine. Okay.

I know Mr. M. Michael spoke already. Mr.

Marcella spoke already.

Anna, which one are you here for? Are you here for this? Are you Martins?

Yes.

Okay. I have a Crystal Stone on my screen. Crystal, are you here?

Crystal here. Crystal's our new youth services director. We're gonna That Crystal Stone.

This Crystal Stone. Hi.

Oh, okay. Hold on. Crystal, let me take care of this.

I was I scared you away, Crystal.

Not at all.

No. Okay. So, um, is there anyone here to speak on be Martin's application?

I have a paybo on my screen. I don't know who who it is. Mr. Marceler is still with us.

You know, I'm I'm going to end uh my involvement just to say this is a absurd uh exercise of government in action. You guys are on Zoom. You don't even know how to control it. And to say that silence means approval because all the neighbors didn't get on Zoom when they were notified in the mail in the middle of the summer. To come up here and say that's the justification. You're t

you're tearing this neighborhood down.

This neighborhood is uh high property values and you just don't even care. You don't even give us a a good forum to have a voice. And this to me is shameful. Get off Zoom. Zoom happened three, four years ago during COVID. Get off Zoom, meet in person, deal with people in a in a face-toface, eye to eye way. Okay. So, over and out. Peace.

Thank you, Mr. Marcelo, for your comments.

Okay, back back to Anna.

Anna, any anything else you want to say or Oh, no. I'm good.

Anna, you're not driving, are you?

Yes, I am. Oh god, please pull over. I'm going to have you blocked off.

All right, gentlemen. Uh, do we have a motion?

How many chickens does Anna want?

I believe her applications for six.

Okay, I move to approve.

Second.

Sorry, second. Okay, Sandy, can we have a roll call?

Thomas Corey, yes.

Michael Coughlin, yes.

Dr. Steven Gagliardi, yes.

Anna, it is approved with the same conditions. Your neighbors will be keeping an eye out o over you. Uh, please don't let us down.

Please don't ever do this again. Drive and go attend a meeting. That's very dangerous.

I will.

Thank you. The next item of business we have we're going to get we're going Crystal Stone is going to be introduced as the new youth right the new youth service coordinator.

There you are.

Hello Crystal.

Welcome Crystal.

Welcome.

I didn't realize it was that Crystal Stone.

Since Te Tess isn't here to introduce you Crystal, I know you a little bit. I' I've participated with you on the substance abuse task force and I I think you're a great choice. Uh very excited to have you with us. Uh and and welcome you and and why don't you tell us a little bit about your background and and what your thoughts are going into the new position.

Yeah, sure. I'd be happy to. Um thank you guys so much for the warm welcome.

Like you said, Crystal Stone. Um I've worked in primary prevention um for about 15 years. Uh the last seven years I worked at STAR um in their primary prevention grant called mass call 3B um which is really focused the city actually has the grunt for F river um I helped out with that one a little bit but mostly was focused on um substance use prevention for youth between the ages of 11 and 17 in Taton Norton

Mansfield and Attboro um before that I worked for the Katy Brown Educational Program. Um, so that's dating violence prevention right in Fall River on Bedford Street for about five and a half years and then um I worked for the Chambers of Commerce for about fourish years after before then. So um I am I I grew up in Fall River although I live in Fair Haven right now. Um just really

excited to be doing this work um here for the city that I grew up for. Um I'll be overseeing both the Shannon and the SSY grants that we hold. Um, and we're really looking at just kind of restructuring them, making sure that Shannon dollars are being spent on Shannon Youth, taking a closer look at our partners and the work that they're doing. So, I've been just taking um this is officially week three for me and so

just a lot of time meeting partners, going over the budgets, making sure that the work that's being done is in accordance to um kind of grant and fun requirements. So, yeah, that's maybe more than a little bit about me. I'm also long-winded as Mr. Cofflin knows.

So, that's great.

Thank you. I uh you know I I was very sad to see your predecessor leave. Uh he he was with us for over 20 years. He he was back there when I was the director.

He was he was the youth services coordinator. But but uh uh very thrilled when when Tess told me that that you were taking the position. So I'm very excited to see what you do that uh you know some fresh perspectives are always are often a very good thing in in a job like that. Welcome.

Thank you. Thank you.

Good.

Sandy, was was there anything received for citizens input?

None at this time.

Okay.

I think there was more citizens input today than we had. We had our four years I've been on this thing.

Not usually that exciting.

No, it's usually very dull.

I'll bet you thought that everybody was here to to meet you when when you first gone. So, I didn't have context, so I thought we were all just Yeah, like a meet and greet type thing. And then someone said chickens and I was like, "Oh, okay.

Switching." So, yeah. Yep.

All right, gentlemen. Following our usual pattern, the next meeting would be on uh Monday, September 29th.

Sounds good.

Sounds good. It's the usual 3:30.

Yep.

Okay. And and uh I don't want to be rem Cong Tess is not here. I don't know who knows and who doesn't, but she's uh she's a new mom again on Friday afternoon, and we wish her and the and the baby the best.

Third time around. My gosh.

I don't know if I didn't know she was pregnant or I just forgot because I'm old.

All righty, everyone. Thank you for your time today. Have a uh have a peaceful evening. Okay.

All right.