Community Preservation Committee Grants Extension for Historical Society Roof Project
Committee Tables Arts Association Grant Extension Over Inactivity Concerns
City Operations Updates Board on Central Fire Station Facade Restoration
Fire Museum Roof and Window Restorations Move Forward
Community Preservation Committee Grants 17-Month Extension for Fall River Fire Museum
School Administration Building Window Project Receives One-Year Extension
The Fall River Community Preservation Committee met to review project extensions, approve annual dues, and set the upcoming funding schedule. The committee approved a two-year extension for Forward Preservation to finish window work and another two-year extension for the Fall River Historical Society's $389,943 roof project, which was delayed to accommodate an HVAC system installation. Requests from the Fall River Arts Association and the Fall River Water Department for its Watuppa Pond seawall and historical documents projects were tabled, with the committee requesting representatives to attend the next meeting to answer questions about project progress. Al Oliveira, Director of City Operations, provided updates on several city projects seeking extensions. The committee granted a two-year extension for the Central Fire Station facade, a 17-month extension for the Fall River Fire Museum's roof and window projects, a one-year extension for work at the Fall River Veterans Center, and a one-year extension for the School Administration Building window installation. The committee also unanimously approved the payment of $4,350 in annual dues to the Community Preservation Coalition. Finally, the committee established the key dates for the FY28 funding cycle, with eligibility applications due September 9th and funding applications due February 4th.
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Welcome to the Community Preservation meeting being held at One Government Center.
0:05It's 5:00.
0:05This is our regular meeting.
0:08Pursuant to the Open Meeting Laws, any person may take an audio or video recording of this meeting.
0:13Therefore, be advised that such recordings are being permitted whether perceived or unperceived by those present.
0:19And we'll start with roll call to my left.
0:23Michael Ferriero.
0:25John Solvia.
0:27Alexander Silva.
0:28Kristen Cantara Oliveira.
0:29John Brandt.
0:30Rick Mancini.
0:31Christopher Benavides.
0:33And we're missing Joanne Bentley and Mr. Hornsby.
0:38And we also have in attendance Sandy Dennis, our administrative assistant, and Craig from Fall River TV.
0:44Uh, citizen input?
0:47None.
0:48None.
0:48Okay.
0:50Uh, can I have a motion for approval of the minutes from June 15th?
0:54I'll make a motion that we accept the minutes of the June 15th meeting.
0:59I second.
1:00All in favor?
1:02Aye.
1:03Okay.
1:04Next, uh, it's extensions and requests.
1:07We'll start with, uh, first on the list, uh, Forward Preservation.
1:11And I just have to recuse myself because I'm on the board of the Preservation Society.
1:23Oh, that's right.
1:25They don't have to be.
1:26Yeah.
1:26Okay.
1:28So I guess there's no one here to talk on them.
1:35Oh, they didn't need to remember because we did.
1:37We talked about it last, right?
1:39Yeah.
1:39But we just couldn't vote because we didn't have a quorum.
1:42Okay, for voting.
1:44So they're just asking for an extension to finish the windows.
1:49Can I have a motion for a 2-year extension?
1:52I'll make a motion for a 2-year extension.
1:55I'll second that motion.
1:57All in favor?
1:58Aye.
2:00Okay.
2:02Next is Fall River Historical Society.
2:07They're requesting an extension that was awarded in 2022.
2:12But we did know this was being held up.
2:14It was for $389,943 for the roof work.
2:20They held that back because they had funding come in to put the state-of-the-art HVAC system in, so they didn't want to disturb the roof until after they were done putting that in.
2:30So now the HVAC system is all completed, and they're wishing to move on with the roof work.
2:37Work.
2:38Can I— any questions or the motion?
2:44I have a quick question.
2:45How long of an extension?
2:46We would normally give 2 years extension on this.
2:49That's what they get when they get the grant first.
2:52We can lower it if we want.
2:54So this would be 4 years then if we go to 2?
2:56No, no, no, no.
2:57They're already starting on the roof, so it's probably going to be less than 2 years.
3:01But yeah, they've already done some substantial work, and then they just put up the scaffolding to continue.
3:05Yeah, they got the scaffolding, they're already working on it.
3:08So this was approved 2 years ago, is that what it was?
3:10Yeah, then they got approval for the HVAC system, which they're cutting into the roof, this and that.
3:16They didn't want to put a new roof on and then cut into it, so that's why they're behind.
3:23To your original question, I think, yeah, it said it'd be a 4-year total since 2022.
3:27Is that— is that like a normal Some projects can be if they get multiple projects going on.
3:34Yeah, it can.
3:36Some finish it right away.
3:38If it's a, if it's a big project, sometimes they need extensions for one reason or another.
3:42So it is, it is a normal thing that we do.
3:45This particular project, John, is in its 4th year.
3:49They've been working on that Historical Society.
3:53So it's just an ongoing process.
3:55Yeah, they've actually— they funded, raised over $3 million to put into the project itself.
4:01So they're just behind on our end to finish the seal of the building off.
4:06Oh, thank you.
4:08And it's also worth noting they might not use the full 2-year extension and could finish it within a year or something.
4:14Yeah.
4:14That's not been the normal protocol to give the 2 years extension for 2 years.
4:19Sometimes we might do a year if it depends on what type of work is being done.
4:25Or how long the extension has been already.
4:28Uh, we kind of frown on somebody coming back for a second extension.
4:33So it's situational.
4:34It depends on the conditions, you know, of any given project.
4:37We had a lot of extensions during COVID for instance.
4:41Okay, thank you.
4:42Okay, so board's wishes?
4:45I'll make a motion to grant the 2-year extension to the Fall River Historical Society.
4:51I second.
4:52Okay, all in favor?
4:54Aye.
4:55Okay, next is the Fall River Arts Association.
5:06Is anybody here?
5:06Because I have questions on this one.
5:09Yeah, this one is— there's nobody here on And this is, uh, would be their second, or this would be their third?
5:24Third.
5:25Yep.
5:27And I, I myself have not seen any work done, so it is a project that I have had great hopes for, but it doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
5:38It says we have a general contractor and are coordinating with him to get this project completed by the end of the summer.
5:48I mean, for especially with everything that we've been through, I have questions.
5:54Are they here?
5:55They're not here now.
5:58Kristen, you're on this committee along with myself.
6:01You are, yeah.
6:02Have you heard from them at all?
6:04No.
6:05And I have not heard from them since the late summer, early fall of last year.
6:14And they were to present to the Historical Commission— this is a handicap ramp that's going in, and they have to submit a set of drawings so we can see what the work is going to be.
6:27I think you were involved in that also, Mike, on the fringes of that.
6:31So, they've spoken to the building department.
6:34Back in the summer of '25.
6:37But, we still have not seen any drawings.
6:41They're going to have to come before our board, get approved.
6:45And, our next meeting, well, we have one tomorrow night.
6:48We will not have another meeting until September 15th.
6:51So, they're not going to make this deadline.
6:55No.
6:56Where did you see the notation they had a contractor sign.
7:00It's in the last sentence in the letter.
7:03Yeah.
7:03Okay, so this would be my— if they do actually have one, then they should be here to represent.
7:09I agree with you.
7:09I would hate to— like, you're right, I don't think it's fair that it's taken 2 extensions to do what they're doing, especially— I walk that neighborhood just to see where the project is, and even the simplest stuff, even on the front, is, is half done and is even starting deteriorate because they put on the wood, didn't prime it, didn't paint it, it's just sitting there.
7:31So, but if they do have a contractor and they're signed up and they're supposed to be done, then I think we should allow them to do that.
7:38But I wouldn't give them a 2-year extension.
7:40I think we've heard contractors been signed before.
7:44So I know, I've heard the same thing.
7:47And the interesting thing to it is like, we walk and I'm in that neighborhood a lot.
7:52And I don't see a lot of activity whatsoever.
7:55And so I don't know, the porch isn't finished because I was on it a few weeks ago.
8:01They had an art show.
8:02I went and the porch isn't finished yet.
8:06So I'm not— that's the front porch.
8:09That's not even starting on this.
8:12Alex, since we have questions, we're under no, you you know, no timeframe to, you know, allocate any of the money.
8:21They're not asking for any of the money.
8:22We can just ask them to come to the next meeting and tell them that if they don't appear, the extension will be denied.
8:30We have questions.
8:31Maybe send them a letter since their letter says their emails are flagging some as spam.
8:39And that way we'll just cross all of our T's and dot our I's.
8:43And then just move on.
8:45Okay.
8:45Because the scope has, I think, changed as well since one or two iterations of this.
8:51Yeah.
8:52Make a motion to have Sandy draft a letter saying we want to see them at the next meeting.
8:56Otherwise, funding will be— Well, the other thing that might be possible is they're coming at 6 instead of 5 thinking that they're supposed to appear at the annual meeting because that's what the invitation says.
9:106.
9:11I'm just— that's all I can say.
9:12They may still show up, but it just might be it.
9:15Invite them to the next meeting then.
9:16Yeah.
9:16I just got a quick question.
9:18Is this a volunteer group?
9:20Like, there's nobody that's paid that's working here, right?
9:23At the Art Association?
9:25Yeah, I don't think so.
9:27Yeah, I'm just— all right.
9:28It's not like they have people there.
9:30They are primarily volunteer operated.
9:33Yes.
9:34And we've been very lenient on that as well.
9:37In this particular case, I think they were doing a transition of leadership within the organization.
9:45That was a couple of years ago.
9:47And we haven't seen anything go through.
9:49But I would like to see— I want to see the project done.
9:51Yeah, me too.
9:52But they need to do it.
9:53Because they are doing a lot.
9:55Yeah, they've had a lot of events and things like that.
9:58So it's not like they're not doing things.
10:01Yeah.
10:02Okay.
10:02You know, events and things in the community, but at the same time, all right, 2 extensions, they really need to be, I mean, on the ball, right?
10:13All right.
10:13So do I have a motion to table till next month?
10:16Make a motion to table the extension for the Florida Art Association grant until next month, September.
10:25Second.
10:26All in favor?
10:28Aye.
10:29Okay.
10:30Next, we have the Forwarder Water Department, Watuppa Pond Seawall Store documents.
10:44It says in their letter that it's currently in progress, so I recommend the extension even though this one's been delayed once at least already.
10:53Our understanding from past meetings is that they just hadn't had the staff capable of managing as many projects as they were at that given moment.
11:03But they have dropped off the documents at a consultant already.
11:07And they had— if the schedule is as it was supposed to be, they should be assessed, already assessed.
11:13So the project is going.
11:14I don't recommend stopping it now.
11:16So, Alex, can you give us a timeline then?
11:19Since it seems like things are in motion.
11:20I am the project liaison, but I have not heard from them.
11:23This is actually like the most recent update I had seen is the one in front of everyone.
11:28It was 2 weeks from July— they were dropping them off on July 6th, and it was 2 weeks for them to be assessed and then get a quote from a consultant.
11:35And then they were going to, I think, touch back with us.
11:40So I can reach out to them to hopefully have them come in and explain the status of it, because they weren't necessarily going with that consultant either.
11:49I might recommend we table it instead of grant the extension.
11:53That's fine too.
11:54Yeah.
11:55Because it said this was July 2nd.
11:58And it said expect another update in a couple of weeks.
12:01It's already— it's around a couple weeks.
12:03Yeah.
12:03A month.
12:04So okay, I would, I would want to ask questions too.
12:07All right.
12:08Motion to table.
12:09I'll make a motion to table until the next meeting.
12:12I'll second that.
12:14All in favor?
12:15Aye.
12:16Okay.
12:16John, do you want to table all the Water Department projects then?
12:20Yes, table all— put them all onto the table and then we'll— can I have a motion to table all the Water Department projects?
12:29It's just the Newarthwaitepapa Pond seawalls one, right, as well?
12:32Yeah, the seawalls and this one.
12:33Historical documents.
12:34Yeah.
12:35Well, we just voted on the documents, so we just need to vote on the seawalls, so— There's also a project withdrawal on the Bonamus Blossom Workshop.
12:48So do we want to just postpone that?
12:53Yeah, we don't have to.
12:53I don't see it's not on the agenda.
12:55So I'll make a motion to table the North Watertown Pond seawalls as well until next month.
13:01Second.
13:02All in favor?
13:03Aye.
13:03Okay.
13:06Then next is the Fall River DCM facilities, Central Fire Station, Fall River Fire Museum, the Fall River Veterans Center, and school ad building.
13:16Young man.
13:26Good evening, everyone.
13:28Al Olivera, Director of City Operations.
13:39Just want to go down the list starting with the Central Fire Station.
13:43Central Fire Station, the facade, um, we— it's out to bid.
13:47We had a few hiccups regarding filed subtrades.
13:53At this point, we've already given the GC direction to carry that allotment, and we're going to be opening up bids very shortly.
14:03We'll assess, we'll award, and get this project started.
14:08How much longer do you anticipate that it'll be done?
14:12We're anticipating at least a little over a year, depending on how difficult— I mean, it's been very difficult to get the molds for the lighting and the medallions, so that's really what's taken so long.
14:25We've tried to push the project, but trying to find the right contractor that will do that type of work— well, they found it.
14:34It's out to bid, and we're ready to go.
14:36We did put it out to bid once.
14:38We did have— it was extremely high, so we had to reject the project.
14:43We feel that it— but what we did is we took the windows out.
14:47We have a secondary project kicking in, which is an interior project, and we'll add that to the windows for the whole project.
14:54So hopefully that will reduce the actual full bid.
14:58Okay.
15:00And you have the split minis put in there too?
15:02We have put in mini splits, yes.
15:05All right.
15:06Any questions from the Board?
15:09Alex?
15:09Did you ever iron out the question of whether the— I know it's separate architects doing separate facades and ours is the Bedford Street facade.
15:19Did you ever iron out the— if the The detailing will be consistent between both sides of the façade, like our side will match the Troy Street side?
15:28Correct.
15:29So we did have Civitec design the façade project, and the hope was that we could have Civitec work on the secondary interior project.
15:37They were just too busy, so to move the project along, we brought in a secondary architect, which is RTA.
15:44They do that type of work.
15:47And what we did is we actually had them work with one another.
15:51And what we— what I also did is to help the process, the secondary project was expected to be $2-point-something million.
15:59So we would have had to put an OPM on that project anyway, an owner's project manager.
16:04So what we did is we had— we put the OPM working with both projects so that we could have some type of consistency.
16:13Both projects.
16:14Absolutely.
16:15And the other thing we did is if there's any type of work replacement, and I think you were part of that, we, we talked about bringing some of the bricks over from the fire— from the police station.
16:26We have those palletized and ready to go so that it's the same type of brick.
16:31Awesome.
16:33Yeah, I just wanted to stress that our— the deed restriction that is placed on the building from our grant, the facade, it'll have to match on Choice regardless.
16:42So I just wanted to make sure that— Absolutely.
16:44Both designers have talked and we have the OPM integrating both designs at that point.
16:50Thank you.
16:52Any other questions?
16:54Okay.
16:55How about we vote on this one and we'll go down the line then.
16:58So can I have a motion to maybe grant a 2-year extension?
17:01Is that the Board's wish?
17:02I'll make that motion that we grant a 2-year extension.
17:06Grant a 2-year extension on the facade of the fire central fire station.
17:10I'll second.
17:12Vote.
17:13All in favor?
17:14Aye.
17:15Okay, thank you.
17:16And we'll move on to the, uh, Forward Fire Museum.
17:21So we currently have 2 projects with the fire museum.
17:25We have the window project and we have the roof project.
17:28The window project is probably about 75% complete.
17:32Windows look fabulous.
17:33They're, they're in great shape.
17:35As we're— as they're pulling the windows out, we are seeing some unforeseen issues.
17:39We are seeing some deterioration of some of the wood, and we're finding— so we're, we're working with that, and we're getting those, those things corrected.
17:48It'll be, it'll be corrected as completing on the windows.
17:53The other caveat is what we're seeing is that the second, the second floor those were the windows that are being replaced, right?
18:03And as we look on the bottom, this— there's like 4 or 5 windows that also need replacement because you have beautiful windows up top, you have the originals on the bottom, and it doesn't— just doesn't really match.
18:14So the bottom, what we have is a pet center, um, down there for the police station.
18:18So we're, we're assessing, we're getting quotes to find out what the potential cost would be so that we can make that whole building whole at that point with the windows.
18:28The secondary project was the roof.
18:30We had some problems with the actual cost of the roof, so we went out to bid.
18:37We got some results of some bids and some quotes, and then now what we did is we had some type of a redesign by the designer.
18:45Those that is on the streets, we opened up the bid and we have a company called Capeway.
18:50I'm sure everyone knows it's a local company.
18:53So we're ready to have a pre-construction meeting this week.
18:56We tried to get something last week, but they were so, you know, so busy at this time.
19:00It's their crunch time.
19:02So we'll meet this week to get a pre-construction meeting out of the way.
19:06So that— just a quick one— were the bids conducive to what the grant was or what you have for funding?
19:15It's, it's more expensive.
19:17It's more expensive, but I mean It's not something that is crazy.
19:21So, I mean, I think it probably— I didn't bring the numbers with me, but it's above.
19:27I mean, again, when this grant was added, it was just a different world out there.
19:32So, but we were able to work with the designer to value engineer the project enough where the prices were about right.
19:41So I'll be working with— Hopefully, if we— if there's any funds we can get from the board, that'd be great.
19:48If not, I'm going to work with the CFO to find out if there's anything else that we can augment those funds.
19:54Did the second batch of windows return?
19:59I went to visit the site, and I guess there was an issue with some of the windows had a plastic cap on it, so they got returned.
20:06Yeah.
20:07Did the new windows come back?
20:09The new ones— new ones are in progress, yes.
20:11Correctly outfitted?
20:13Correct.
20:13Good.
20:13Thank you.
20:14What kind of a roof is it on there?
20:17Because I know at one point there was discussion about what, what the roof was going to be, as like, as far as slate or the composite.
20:24And so what, what came of that?
20:28I, I don't have that information with me today, but we— I'll review that and then get back to the board again.
20:36So I thought it was a PVC.
20:39I believe that's what it was.
20:41Because, but again, so I've been working with a couple other roofs, and my mind is just basically saying EPDM.
20:46But it was years ago.
20:48Yes, 2 years ago, because I remember sitting in on the meeting.
20:51And they were still going back and forth because they couldn't— one was too expensive.
20:55And then they were trying to get people to answer them.
20:58And people just weren't answering them.
20:59But they had a composite that looked like slate.
21:02And yeah, but they also were talking about like the slate and the weight of the roof.
21:06So they had to shore up.
21:08So we did have some value engineering to that.
21:10So we worked with the architect just to find out what, what was necessary for that, that building at that time.
21:17So sorry, just to backtrack, what is the ask for the windows in the roof?
21:22What's the, what's the question at hand?
21:24Extension?
21:25Extension?
21:25Oh, so it's part of the extension?
21:27Absolutely.
21:27Got it.
21:28Okay.
21:28Yeah, there's no additional funds being asked for.
21:32No, no, no.
21:34I mean, It is worth noting that this is the 3rd extension for this project, I think.
21:40Right?
21:40Correct?
21:41It is, but we're right there.
21:43I mean, the windows are almost completed, and then we're at the roof.
21:48So this is preconstruction.
21:50As long as there's not problems down there.
21:53Yeah.
21:54I mean, in all fairness, we lost someone that was overseeing this with me.
22:01And that's disappointing.
22:02Yeah, I just have a quick, quick question with that because I think citizens are going to look and say, you know, now this is going on, going to be 6 years.
22:11How long would this normally have taken, being in this city project?
22:14Because it's not volunteers, you guys out of the city.
22:17How long would that fire museum normally have taken with the roof and windows?
22:21There's a little backstory too to this one where there was a question of who was in charge of the original CPA projects where it was the nonprofit at first, and it was determined that the city would retain ownership.
22:34Correct me if I'm wrong.
22:35That is correct.
22:35And then the city kind of took over.
22:37So there was a kind of forced changing of the guards halfway through the projects to anyone's— I just look at it as you want to see the fire museum.
22:46I've been hearing about this for years.
22:47No, I think everybody, yes.
22:49And it's, you know, if the city's handling it, We have to do better, I think, at making this forward than, you know, the private citizens or the volunteers that are doing this.
22:59So that's my only— It's a fair question.
23:02A fair question.
23:02I mean, we— I have— I had been working with Mike LaPage on that, and Alex is correct.
23:09We— there was some ambiguity who was responsible for that.
23:13But when I took over, it was just— we already knew what was going on.
23:19So one, yeah, one question on sort of John's thread.
23:22In a hypothetical world, if the grant or if the extension wasn't granted, like what would happen for the project?
23:29For, you know, in your case, we would have to find some funds.
23:32Okay, so you'd have to go back out to the market and find— we'd have to find the money, and that would obviously set you back, right?
23:38I mean, when I knew this was coming up, I had conversations with the board to make sure that we were going to be at the table one more time to get this done, but we're very close right now.
23:48Okay.
23:48Very close.
23:51So would you say you could get it done in a year?
23:54We're in progress right now.
23:55I would just do the 2.
23:57Yeah, I mean— All right.
23:59Just as long as the city knows this may be the last extension.
24:02We've said that to a few applicants before who have come to, I think, 3 extensions, and so it's nothing out there.
24:09You know, 2 years, it could be a whole new committee.
24:11So no one can guarantee there'd be an extension anytime.
24:14So, yeah.
24:16All right.
24:17So can we have a motion for 2?
24:19I'll make a motion for 1 year.
24:24Because I think if we, if we keep on giving people time, especially the city, if you have the year, you're going to make it work.
24:31I think another year is just putting out— that's my motion.
24:34But okay.
24:35Is there anything that would prevent you from getting it done in a year?
24:43I hope it doesn't go a year.
24:45I mean, I hope it doesn't.
24:47I mean, right now we're in mid-August, right?
24:52So, and having the contractor, meeting with the contractor, I wish I could have gotten with him last week to find out, but his availability is crazy right now.
25:02So yeah, I'm just going to make a— because I had worked on this project with Mr. LePage way back when, and I would say that we are in pretty good shape with the window that being 75%.
25:15I would, if any way that you could have that within the 1-month and the 1-year extension.
25:21And then again, you're coming into the wintertime, so you're lucky even if you get get this done, this roofing project done by November of next year.
25:30That gives you 18 months.
25:32I was in the same— so that's what we did.
25:34You're not doing any roof.
25:35If it's on schedule, he's not doing the work, most likely this year.
25:40And then you lose your wintertime, springtime, right?
25:44So I mean, maybe something of that nature.
25:45And I don't know if you can do it that way.
25:47But 17 months, so basically the end of December.
25:50First, we have the motion on table for 1 year.
25:53Did I have a second?
25:57Okay, I would prefer to read.
25:59So then, you don't have— so, can we motion to do the 1 year for the windows and a 2-year for the roof, or 18 months for the roof?
26:10That'd give you a whole construction season of spring all the way through summer and into the fall of 2027.
26:19Is that something reasonable?
26:21That's reasonable.
26:21Yeah, that gives them enough time to bid it, get it out, get all your— cross all your T's, dot all your I's during the wintertime, and then schedule him to install.
26:33And again, maybe it's a 3 or 4 month— yeah, I mean, I mean, you're right on target with that, but I'm going to try to push them to get this completed this year.
26:41So that's our goal, because the There are times where we're in November and it's freezing.
26:46There are times we're in November and it's warm out.
26:49So we don't know the seasons that we're working in.
26:53But it's fair.
26:54Is it on the roofer's schedule to do it this year?
26:57It is.
26:58Okay.
26:59So it is.
26:59But again, so depending on if there's a hiccup, I don't want to have to come back over here.
27:04So you haven't started procurement for the roof yet, though, or have you?
27:08Oh, yeah.
27:08We bid it out.
27:09We opened up Cape Wave.
27:10But I mean, like materials, like have materials been ordered and That's all through the general contractor.
27:15Yeah.
27:16Do you know if like they've started or anything?
27:19This is what they do, right?
27:21So I'm hoping that that— Okay.
27:23Because that would be like the one factor I would be most concerned about with, you know, your timelines.
27:29And I would argue, you know, the same result would be given with a 2-year extension for both projects with the understanding that there may not be another, you know, another extension.
27:39It sounds like the 1 year is doable at this point.
27:42It is.
27:43I just— I don't know if we're going to have a hiccup.
27:45I have no idea until I meet with the contractor.
27:47The roofing contractor is already on board, right?
27:51And, and that's, that's what they do, just roofing.
27:54That's what they do.
27:54That is their livelihood.
27:56But, um, they could get that done.
27:58But like, this is a specialty product.
28:01Like, it's not— you're talking about asphalt shingles, right?
28:04You're talking about either a composite or some— or real slate or whatever it might be.
28:08I know there's usually a huge lead time for getting some of these products, but if this company is— this is what they're known for, doing these types of— installing these types of products, then they should be able to have the whereabouts to be able to— But that's if they went with that.
28:26We don't know if they went with the composite or not.
28:29No one ever said like the final— like we had said, I know the historical commission sat on it.
28:38Were you at that meeting?
28:42It was at Central Fire Station when we had the big— oh no, it wasn't, it was at Mike Keane's office.
28:48But I do remember— and we talked about like for Secretary of Interior standards, it needed to look like a slate Yeah, I do remember one conversation with Mike LaPage that it was going to be the composite.
29:02Okay.
29:02I mean, we've had, we've had some work by some general contractor to shore up some of the, some of the trusses, and we've made some repairs that way.
29:11So we've, we've been trying to get a lot of that work done.
29:15So, uh, where Mike— where Civitec didn't have that capabilities, we had to find another another architect or designer for that.
29:24So we'll work— we're working to get the project completed.
29:31The board's wishes, 1 year or 2?
29:371 year gives them winter and next summer.
29:40So can you give them until December 2027?
29:43That's a 17-month extension.
29:45I know it's a little bit of like a weird off, but it's a clean end of the year.
29:48Get it done by the end of the year of next year and everything's fine.
29:52Roofing jobs, it's a middle ground between the 1 and 2 years.
29:54Yeah, they don't want to be up there, right?
29:56I mean, I agree with John's sentiment on the— we got to get it done.
30:00So, um, I mean, I'll make a motion for 17-month extension to the end of December 2027.
30:07Okay, all in favor?
30:10Aye.
30:10All righty.
30:13John, sorry.
30:14Okay, next Next one is the Fall River Veterans Center.
30:17This is a little roofing money that was left over.
30:20So there was like $40-some-odd thousand, and we brought in a company to do some work on the actual— there's some stone up on top.
30:29It's a cap.
30:30And when we lifted the cap up, there was some type of an adhesive in there.
30:34And part of the project that we have to do, we have to test to see if there's any type of contamination in that.
30:40And we did find some asbestos on that.
30:43So the process is to have a company go in, try to clean that up, and then recap it.
30:51Because the— it should have been done in the last project.
30:55It's just the caps are just crumbling at that point.
30:58And when I did find out that we had some additional funds in there, I, I wanted to capture those.
31:03It's like $43,000.
31:05So So, and just for clarification, it's— I know you said it should have been done the last project, but this is technically the same project.
31:13That's what I meant.
31:14Yeah.
31:14When they completed the roof, they should have completed that.
31:17That's why the funds are still there.
31:19Yes.
31:19It's the same grant.
31:20It is the same grant.
31:21Technically the same project.
31:23Correct.
31:24Just years in between phases.
31:27Any other questions from the board?
31:32Issue an extension.
31:33Okay.
31:35Did you have a timeframe that you were— they were going to be completed by, like a year or 2 years?
31:40We can, we can get the contractor in there.
31:42I just didn't want to start anything until I had some type of an extension on this because of the— I would make a motion that we give them a 1-year extension on this project.
31:52Okay.
31:52I'll second that.
31:54All in favor?
31:55Aye.
31:55Okay.
31:57Then next, the school ad building.
32:01Yes, I know you're just picking this project up.
32:04Well, I mean, um, the school department is, is, is the awarding authority on that, on this situation, but I'm working with Ken to make the payments for, um, for the work.
32:13But the window project, they had, um, the windows came in very high, so they had to rebid that, um, and then it got to a point where they could only buy the windows that— for the cost of what we had for funding.
32:28So he has the windows, he's just now scheduling to get the work done in-house at this point.
32:35So he, he does have a designer, RGB, that he's been working with, and we're working with them to make sure that they complete the project.
32:44I'm saying the windows have been purchased.
32:46The windows have been purchased.
32:49And they're on site.
32:50They're on site, and he's just trying to get the, the actual funding in-house so he can get his people to get the work done.
32:57Now, on those, we, uh, stipulated that they have to put in split minis at their cost, correct?
33:03Because we didn't want air conditioners going in brand new windows.
33:08And he is aware of that, absolutely.
33:09Yeah.
33:11All right, so is it correct that I'm hearing that all grant funds have been expended So you don't need an extension for us, you're just updating us that the project is now— it hasn't been expended.
33:22There is some, and I just don't have the total dollar amount.
33:24But you purchased the windows, he purchased the windows, and there's still remaining grant funds?
33:28That is.
33:29Okay.
33:29And what's that money going to be used for if the installation will be in-house, or— well, he'll be, he'll be needing some materials and some additional stuff.
33:39I mean, at this point, that's what he's trying to make sure that he does The majority of the installs are in-house.
33:44Okay.
33:45I just want to— and so when do they expect that to start?
33:49He has, he has added some here and there.
33:52He's just trying to figure out his capabilities and staffing-wise.
33:58So do you have a timeline of how long that will take?
34:00I can get that over to everyone at this point.
34:03But he— that's what's the update that he's given me at this point.
34:07So if we said a year, he could be done.
34:10If you said a year, that's what he's going to have to do.
34:12We light a fire under him.
34:15I think in this case, that would be a good idea because this is taking way too long.
34:19Yeah.
34:20I mean, the bulk of the grant has already been expended.
34:23Yeah.
34:24So is— and this is separate from the porch project?
34:28Or is this under the same grant?
34:30Separate?
34:31Separate?
34:31Separate?
34:31Yeah.
34:32And you're not asking for an extension for that one?
34:34No, that's— I believe that's been completed here.
34:37Okay.
34:37Yeah, I saw it.
34:38I saw it started.
34:40Okay.
34:41Yeah.
34:42All right.
34:43Where are you?
34:44So the board— the banisters are good.
34:46Yeah, they're taking them down.
34:47They're gone.
34:48Oh, okay.
34:52Probably the Diamond students, right?
34:54Is it the, the porch?
34:56Is it the Diamond students that are doing these?
34:58They are.
34:59They're working with him.
35:00Yeah.
35:00Okay, good.
35:01So board's wishes, 1 year?
35:06I'll make a motion for a 1-year extension.
35:09I'll second that motion.
35:10Okay, all in favor?
35:12Aye.
35:14All right, that's it.
35:16That was it.
35:16Thank you.
35:17Thank you.
35:21All right, next on the agenda is our annual community preservation Coalition dues.
35:28Dues for us is $4,350.
35:34We just need to take a vote on it.
35:38I'll make a motion to pay the dues of $4,350 for FY27 annual membership.
35:47Second.
35:48Second.
35:48Discussion?
35:52Do you want to explain what it is to the public?
35:54Oh, the dues is— we pay dues for support from the coalition out of Boston.
36:03They help us on technical terms.
36:06They also help preserve money with the state, push for other funding sources.
36:15So they're a great need for us as a backbone for questions we might have, discussions and funding and looking for other ways of helping us.
36:27And we do utilize them quite often.
36:30Yeah.
36:31It's a nonprofit that supports all Community Preservation Act communities throughout the state with technical support and they advocate on the state level for all CPA issues.
36:41Yeah.
36:43210 communities now, and the due structure goes on your amount of, uh, taxes.
36:50So, uh, it's a 10-year city, 43.
36:54Uh, but okay, so I had a motion.
36:56Do I have a second?
36:57Second.
36:58Uh, we'll do a roll call on this one.
37:01Uh, started.
37:02Michael.
37:03Michael Ferris, yes.
37:05Uh, John Sylvia, yes.
37:07Alexander Silva, yes.
37:08Kristen Cantara Oliver, yes.
37:10John Brandt, yes.
37:11Rick Mancini, yes.
37:13Chris Benavides, yes.
37:16Let's see, FY28 funding updates.
37:23The dates, funding dates.
37:24Oh, funding dates, yeah.
37:25I already put out September 9th for the eligibility application.
37:31Okay.
37:34And I think we have applications and everything out front for tonight if anyone shows up.
37:39Uh, project updates?
37:41No, no, no, you need to— no, you need to— oh, okay.
37:47I thought we already had those picked, but okay.
37:48Yeah.
37:49All right.
37:51Do you want me— I work with the city clerk on all the available dates because a lot of the committees and boards meet on certain days and certain Times.
38:02I think I sent you all a list of my recommendations for these.
38:06I don't know if you all had a chance to look at them.
38:10If you were okay with them, they don't stop booking this room till November.
38:16So we have time to get a jump start on it because your hearings and deliberations go for days.
38:23So I want to make sure that you're in this Shall I read Sandy's dates that she sent us?
38:30Yeah, go ahead if you have them.
38:30Okay, so as Sandy mentioned, she suggested September 9th for the eligibility applications, then for the hearings, the eligibility hearings, September 21st.
38:42Then this is a difference from the last couple years, funding applications due February 4th, so not during the holidays, not like, you know, January, December.
38:52Then hearings for the funding applications February 22nd and February 23rd and February 24th.
38:59And then deliberations March 9th and voting March 15th are the suggestions.
39:04So in the past couple of years, we've kind of crunched it all in the fall/winter before the new year, trying to get it before the City Council as soon as possible.
39:15But— Could you just repeat the November dates again, the last 2?
39:20Yes.
39:24There are no November dates.
39:25After September?
39:26We're just our regular meeting, right?
39:28Yeah.
39:30Oh, she only suggested the funding application hearing.
39:33It's February 4th for when they're due.
39:37Then the hearings, the 22nd of February, February 23rd, and February 24th.
39:424th, deliberations March 9th, and voting March 15th.
39:50Okay.
39:50I'm good with those if anybody else has any opinions.
39:53I'm good with those too.
39:55I am also.
39:57All righty.
39:58See if we can set those dates aside then.
40:02Welcome, Joanne.
40:04Yeah.
40:08Okay.
40:10All righty.
40:12You just might want to introduce so it's on the record.
40:16We do have, for the record, Joanne Bentley from Halden joining us.
40:25Okay, let's see.
40:26Next update on projects.
40:31Any— Yeah, I have an update on Durfee Block.
40:34The funding application was submitted to Sandy.
40:37Sandy was able to process the payment, and it should be en route to Monty.
40:42And, um, yeah, the Durfee— I think it's Durfee Trust Limited is their organization.
40:48So I just sent Monty an email today to confirm when the check was received, and also the deed restriction was confirmed.
40:56So, uh, yeah, so everything's in, in a good spot, I think.
40:59And I think we're going going to be able to hit their timelines, assuming once all the materials are ordered, we should be okay.
41:07Okay.
41:07Yeah.
41:07So, and I think, Rick, if you want to give an update on the Little Theater.
41:12Yeah, well, Little Theater is moving right along.
41:16The roofing contractor is doing a job.
41:20They have hired an OPM to the fire museum, Little Theater.
41:25Theater people, I'm sorry, Little Theater, on their own to oversee the project.
41:32We have been funding the materials, but the contractor himself has not asked for any funding at this point for his labor.
41:42But we are paying off all of the materials as they arrive, because they are considerably high for all of the copper flashing and fascia and a slate roof.
41:54That's being taken care of.
41:55But, it is moving along.
41:57Looks good.
41:58Nice job.
41:59No complaints at this point.
42:03The fire museum, you heard the news on that.
42:06So, that's moving along well.
42:08The contractors are very informative if you go up there.
42:12Any one of us could go up there and take a look.
42:14See, it's good.
42:19Yes.
42:19The Arts Museum, you heard it also, we haven't heard anything from them.
42:26And, I guess that's really the 3 lively projects that we've got going.
42:32I did notice the Eagle is putting in their windows on the second floor.
42:37So, that's going on now.
42:38I'm not sure whose project that is, but I just noticed the windows going in.
42:44Any other updates?
42:46I just have the Children's Museum, the roof and the flashing and the replacement of the slate shingles have been completed approximately 3 weeks ago.
42:57They've done a really nice job, even all of the structural changes that they had to make.
43:03And we're just waiting now for their paperwork and we can release the funding for that particular project.
43:12Just an aside from the Eagles, there is a preservation restriction on that building with CPA funding, past CPA funding, and probably, it's probably 2 months now, we noticed that there was some brick and mortar going up on the back of the building.
43:30So, we spoke to the proprietor, and I I guess it hadn't been before the Historical Commission or anywhere.
43:40So anyway, bottom line is it was presented and it meets all the Secretary of the Interior's standards.
43:48It is in the back of the building.
43:50It is visible from a public way, but it's the back of the building.
43:55The brick is old brick that's being put on there, old colored brick.
44:00It matches fairly well.
44:01It does match fairly well.
44:01It's a nice job.
44:03He's really, really— I must admire him for the pains that he's taking to do this project properly and not effectively destroy the exterior of that building.
44:17Even in the back of it, like being the back of it, it still looks really good.
44:21And what's really good here, and And they did their homework.
44:28One of the things with the Secretary of Interior standards is if you're putting on anything, attaching it to a building structurally, you've got to put it in such a fashion that it can be removed and the original building remain the same.
44:42And the way this is going in, it's nothing but a few pins.
44:45It's not as if he's breaking into a wall or anything else.
44:48So, he's really doing the job correctly.
44:51Must be complementary.
44:53And it's worth noting the elevator isn't a CPA grant.
44:56No.
44:56Yes, that's right.
44:57You're just talking about it because the deed restriction.
45:00Exactly.
45:00Yes.
45:01Yes.
45:01No, the funding is on his own.
45:03They're putting that in on their own funds.
45:06Yeah.
45:07We only funded the windows.
45:08We only did the windows.
45:09Yeah.
45:10Yeah.
45:11Alrighty.
45:12Then we'll move on.
45:14Any new business?
45:17Okay, can I have a motion to adjourn?
45:20I'll make a motion to adjourn.
45:24Everyone in favor?
45:26Oh, a second.
45:27All right, all in favor?
45:31Aye.
45:32All right, now can we open up the annual meeting till 6 o'clock?
45:38So we'll take a little recess till 6 o'clock, folks.